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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #140 on: July 18, 2011, 06:33:27 AM »
You know, I wouldn't mind them using a lower tuning for some songs (particularly for those from I&W and maybe for some Awake songs); lots of band did and do it; the songs might sound a bit weird in comparison, but if you hear it in a live setting without the studio version to compare, the difference wouldn't be that obvious.
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #141 on: July 18, 2011, 07:02:51 AM »
You can always use a lower standard tuning and not dropped.

Yeah that's true. Even a half step tuning lower would be a tremendous help to JLB.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #142 on: July 18, 2011, 10:32:39 AM »
I hate it when bands change the key of a song.  It makes the whole song sound "wrong".  I'd rather they just play a different song than play a song I like in the wrong key.

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« Reply #143 on: July 18, 2011, 11:10:48 AM »
I hate it when bands change the key of a song.  It makes the whole song sound "wrong".  I'd rather they just play a different song than play a song I like in the wrong key.

You know what? I used to have the same opinion.
My mind changed after a FW concert here in Greece when they played the entire Parallels album. I think it was at least one step down, but it sounded fantastic.
I guess they could do it, and actually i am surprised that James is able to sing the older songs in the original tuning and without changing the melodic lines of the vocals.
I bet if they downtuned (since most of the older songs are in E standard tuning, lets say they tune to Eb standard) James will definately sound much much better.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #144 on: July 18, 2011, 11:35:42 AM »
changing the tuning can alter pitch tendency.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #145 on: July 18, 2011, 11:56:06 AM »
I hate it when bands change the key of a song.  It makes the whole song sound "wrong".  I'd rather they just play a different song than play a song I like in the wrong key.

You know what? I used to have the same opinion.
My mind changed after a FW concert here in Greece when they played the entire Parallels album. I think it was at least one step down, but it sounded fantastic.
I guess they could do it, and actually i am surprised that James is able to sing the older songs in the original tuning and without changing the melodic lines of the vocals.
I bet if they downtuned (since most of the older songs are in E standard tuning, lets say they tune to Eb standard) James will definately sound much much better.

It's probably different when doing an entire album.  By the second song or so, your ears have had a chance to "adjust" and you can just enjoy the performance.  I also know that it probably bothers me more than a lot of people.  I don't have perfect pitch, but I know what certain notes are supposed to sound like.  F# has a certain color to it; it's what makes songs in D sound so happy and songs in B sound so sweet.  Dropping it a half-step or more would totally change the color of the song.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #146 on: July 18, 2011, 12:19:10 PM »
I doubt they will ever do this.
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #147 on: July 18, 2011, 01:04:10 PM »
I hate it when bands change the key of a song.  It makes the whole song sound "wrong".  I'd rather they just play a different song than play a song I like in the wrong key.

You know what? I used to have the same opinion.
My mind changed after a FW concert here in Greece when they played the entire Parallels album. I think it was at least one step down, but it sounded fantastic.
I guess they could do it, and actually i am surprised that James is able to sing the older songs in the original tuning and without changing the melodic lines of the vocals.
I bet if they downtuned (since most of the older songs are in E standard tuning, lets say they tune to Eb standard) James will definately sound much much better.

It's probably different when doing an entire album.  By the second song or so, your ears have had a chance to "adjust" and you can just enjoy the performance.  I also know that it probably bothers me more than a lot of people.  I don't have perfect pitch, but I know what certain notes are supposed to sound like.  F# has a certain color to it; it's what makes songs in D sound so happy and songs in B sound so sweet.  Dropping it a half-step or more would totally change the color of the song.
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« Reply #148 on: July 18, 2011, 01:18:26 PM »
I'd like it better if they just kept it like it is.
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #149 on: July 18, 2011, 01:42:21 PM »
If DT feel they can deliver a better performance of a given song by lowering it, then I'm not opposed to it in principle.  Sometimes, for most of us who don't have perfect pitch, you barely notice when a song is dropped.  Other times, it is a lot more obvious.  It just depends on the song.  For example, when Queensryche started tuning down The Lady Wore Black in 2000 or so, it was very apparent, but it made the overall feel of the song more dark and heavy.  On the other hand, I saw Tesla a couple of years ago, and they tuned down a couple of their songs (Edison's Medicine and, if I'm not mistaken, Hang Tough), and both of those just felt like all life was sucked out of them.
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #150 on: July 18, 2011, 02:54:39 PM »
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #151 on: July 18, 2011, 03:08:15 PM »
If it's a better vocal performance, I say at least try it one tour.

I'd also like to see JLB try doing less crowd work.  Just stand there and focus and see if that improves things?  This is prog, and I'd rather have a flawless performance and lose some of physical energy.  I say that because with JLB's pitch issues, it's not always the highest notes that are the problem.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #152 on: July 18, 2011, 07:52:24 PM »
I hate it when bands change the key of a song.  It makes the whole song sound "wrong".  I'd rather they just play a different song than play a song I like in the wrong key.

It can, I agree. I also agree with your assessment of F#....if it were dropped so that F# became F, it would probably feel a little more steady and resolved on its own (that's my silly impression of the note haha).

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #153 on: July 19, 2011, 04:44:22 PM »
I really hate it. I'd rather have James doing stuff like Learning to Live in LSFNY. Everything sounds pretty easy to him at the moment, there are still a few years before we'll see songs being tuned down or something like that.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2011, 01:57:43 PM »
Forsaken has really gone up in my estimations after the last few days - such a great sing-along.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #155 on: July 25, 2011, 02:11:08 PM »
Since you are recording confirmed U.S. dates, we also have 9/24/11 - Warfield Theater, San Francisco, CA
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2011, 02:57:39 PM »
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2011, 03:13:19 PM »
Forsaken has really gone up in my estimations after the last few days - such a great sing-along.

I agree! I have always kinda liked that song more than most of SC, but its reputation has increased in these last days. James seems to be having a good time singing the song as well, since he has started throwing some high notes in it!

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #158 on: July 27, 2011, 10:04:56 AM »
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #159 on: July 29, 2011, 06:54:36 AM »
Obviously I'm looking forward to the next leg when the new material donimates the setlist, but this summer's tour's setlist is really incredible. People seeing this tour are very lucky.
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #160 on: July 30, 2011, 02:20:21 PM »
A friend of mine uploaded CoT from the Vienna gig on youtube, but soon got a copyright notice from youtube. What's up with this? I see many DT live vids here on this site. Should he take it down?
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #161 on: August 04, 2011, 04:33:21 AM »
I think this setlist thread needs to be updated :P, only 1 night left of the 1st european leg.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #162 on: August 04, 2011, 09:02:42 AM »
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #163 on: August 11, 2011, 08:58:34 AM »
Sorry for the late update, was on holiday in the US for the past two weeks. Tidying things up now.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #164 on: August 12, 2011, 01:23:48 AM »
Sorry for the late update, was on holiday in the US for the past two weeks. Tidying things up now.

Where do you get the setlists from?

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #165 on: August 12, 2011, 02:23:45 AM »
Sorry for the late update, was on holiday in the US for the past two weeks. Tidying things up now.

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #166 on: August 12, 2011, 08:28:39 AM »
Sorry for the late update, was on holiday in the US for the past two weeks. Tidying things up now.
Where did you go?
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #167 on: August 12, 2011, 09:04:13 AM »
Did a road trip around California with my family. We started in LA, then up to Santa Barbara, Monterey and San Francisco, on to Napa, across to Yosemite and back to SF to fly home (with a few other stops along the way). 

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #168 on: August 12, 2011, 10:24:33 AM »
The suspense is killing me as to whether or not they're gonna make some dates in the Southwest US.  Hoping for for Phoenix somewhere in between Utah and Illinois.  We missed them on the last DT-only tour.

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« Reply #169 on: August 12, 2011, 11:58:25 AM »
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE 19TH IS A WEDNESDAY

Unless they feel like doing three gigs in a row and squeeze Asheville in there on the 18th I can't go see them this tour!  :'(

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #170 on: August 12, 2011, 12:06:49 PM »
Is anyone seeing them in Washington?
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« Reply #171 on: August 12, 2011, 12:15:33 PM »
Is anyone seeing them in Washington?

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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #172 on: August 14, 2011, 10:53:04 PM »
So... is there going to be a whole different US leg, or is this basically it?  Anyone know?

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« Reply #173 on: August 14, 2011, 11:53:56 PM »
So... is there going to be a whole different US leg, or is this basically it?  Anyone know?
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Re: The Dream Theater Tour Dates & Setlists Thread (UPDATED 01/16)
« Reply #174 on: September 07, 2011, 10:05:24 AM »
http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#eurotourdates

Great selection of dates there. I think personally I'll try and go to the show at Wembley in February  :metal