Author Topic: The Cure (Read 21643 times)

Ravenheart · « **on:** June 22, 2011, 02:13:23 PM »

One of the best bands ever, and probably the most well-known goth band in the world. It's time there is a thread in their honor.

They're dark, emotional, creative, gorgeous, and highly innovative. For all intensive purposes, they are a goth band, but manage to incorporate many different and diverse sounds and styles into their music.

Most of their popularity ma have been centered in the 80s (and they were the best band of that time period along with Depeche Mode), but they continue to remain relevant, creative, and loved throughout the world.

Discuss, please.

MasterShakezula · « **Reply #1 on:** June 22, 2011, 02:26:32 PM »

Not familiar with any of their works, but I've heard great things about them and am open-minded, and would like to know where to start, in terms of their discography.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #2 on:** June 22, 2011, 02:28:48 PM »

I'd say Disintegration is the best place to start. It's by far their best album, but it's a little dense and and may take some time to get used to it. But once you get there, it's one of the most beautiful things your ears will ever hear.

lonestar · « **Reply #3 on:** June 22, 2011, 04:20:33 PM »

I was in high school during their peak, and dismissed them because of their goth connection, which didn't flow with a proper 80's metalhead. Now being older and wiser, it is one band I truly regret not enjoying in their heyday.

Sigz · « **Reply #4 on:** June 22, 2011, 04:23:00 PM »

My 14 year old sister really likes them.

Reason enough not to

Ravenheart · « **Reply #5 on:** June 22, 2011, 04:30:31 PM »

Meh, your loss.

Dittomist · « **Reply #6 on:** June 22, 2011, 04:52:10 PM »

The Cure and Dream Theater are my two favorite bands ever so it's nice to know there are others out there who adore both.
I bought my first Cure album when I was in 8th grade I think, and before I knew it, I owned over 25 Cure CD's (I found out that I needed to buy the singles too because Cure b-sides tend to be incredible).
I would agree with Ravenheart that Disintegration is their best album. It's the ultimate rainy night soundtrack: atmospheric, melancholy, haunting, intense, beautiful.
Here is how I would rank all The Cure albums.
1. Disintegration
2. Wish
3. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
4. The Head on the Door
5. Faith
6. Wild Mood Swings
7. Pornography
8. 4:13 Dream
9. The Top
10. 17 Seconds
11. Bloodflowers
12. The Cure
13. Three Imaginary Boys

I am so glad that they are still going strong after 30 years.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #7 on:** June 22, 2011, 05:02:49 PM »

Bloodflowers is actually my 2nd favorite after Disintegration. I feel like it's almost a modern version of that album. Great to see another avid fan on the board, though.

SystematicThought · « **Reply #8 on:** June 22, 2011, 05:09:18 PM »

I really like the song Just Like Heaven. That's about as far as I've gone. I'll probably check out more soon

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #9 on:** June 22, 2011, 09:55:09 PM »

The Cure is one of the best bands that were really best known in the 80s. I used to listen to them all the time when I was younger, but I haven't really listened to them in a loooooong time. I gotta change that.

contest_sanity · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2011, 12:04:36 AM »

Surely the

didn't make this thread.

I've heard of The Cure.

Actually, though, I really haven't heard them. I've heard Anberlin's cover of "Lovesong," which I liked FWIW.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:37:27 AM »

You should hear the original. Then the entire album. Then their entire discography.

Durg · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:08:05 AM »

I really didn't get into them in the 80's and 90's. I saw their videos on MTV and heard their music on the radio and can only remember one song by them. I just remember how gay that lead singer looked and was turned off by that. I kind of dismissed them as a depressed Culture Club. The older sister of my girlfriend in high school listed to them and Depeche Mode as well and she was pretty weird. Of course I would have been pretty creeped out by anyone listening to Opeth back then too, but today I have a more open mind and like most of Opeth's stuff. So, maybe I should check them out.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:12:01 AM »

Well, I'm not sure what "gay lead singer" is supposed to mean, but if you're interested enough, I'll once again recommend Disintegration. Every band has their fare share of weird fans, so I don't think The Cure are particularly special in that department.

Of course, most people would say I'm weird, so take that for what it's worth

Durg · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:34:00 AM »

Quote from: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 10:12:01 AM

Well, I'm not sure what "gay lead singer" is supposed to mean, but if you're interested enough, I'll once again recommend Disintegration. Every band has their fare share of weird fans, so I don't think The Cure are particularly special in that department.

Of course, most people would say I'm weird, so take that for what it's worth

Yeah. Come to think of it most people say I'm weird too. $:-\$ Including my wife!

I'll explain the "gay lead singer" comment. I grew up Baptist in southern Arkansas. In the 80's if someone had an earring on they were assumed to be gay (later it was only the guys with an earring in the left ear

). If a guy put on make-up they were gay. It was a very common, 80's mentality especially in the Bible belt. The lead singer for the Cure usually had on lipstick and eye shadow did he not? Just like Boy George. Now at 41 I could care less. I care more for good music and I don't get all offended by such things.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2011, 11:05:45 AM »

Ah, makes sense. I can see a bible belt being really anal about a guy in mascara and lipstick

I think part of the reason I was so attracted to them at an early age was because the look wasn't socially unacceptable in general. As I grew older I began to appreciate their music more and more. I'm a huge fan of the 80s goth scene--The Cure, Depeche Mode, Sisters of Mercy, New Order, Bauhaus, etc. I'm the only person my age I know who is

ZirconBlue · « **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2011, 11:09:41 AM »

Quote from: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 10:12:01 AM

Well, I'm not sure what "gay lead singer" is supposed to mean

You know. Like Rob Halford.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #17 on:** June 23, 2011, 11:14:18 AM »

Yeah, except Robert Smith ain't gay

A lot of his lyrics are about relationships with women in some way.

Gadough · « **Reply #18 on:** June 23, 2011, 11:22:41 AM »

This is my coworker's favorite band. He swears by them. In his own words: "The Cure is my favorite band, and they should be everybody's favorite band."

I'm not a fan though.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2011, 11:25:00 AM »

Quote from: Gadough on June 23, 2011, 11:22:41 AM

I'm not a fan though.

Gadough · « **Reply #20 on:** June 23, 2011, 11:26:42 AM »

That thing > Robert Smith

Ravenheart · « **Reply #21 on:** June 23, 2011, 11:27:57 AM »

Even the llama would admit that he's not as awesome as Robert Smith.

ZirconBlue · « **Reply #22 on:** June 23, 2011, 02:05:15 PM »

Quote from: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 11:14:18 AM

Yeah, except Robert Smith ain't gay A lot of his lyrics are about relationships with women in some way.

I know. I was just trying to emphasize the difference between the concept of a "gay singer" and an actual gay singer. People have such silly ideas of sexuality and "proper" gender roles.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #23 on:** June 23, 2011, 02:06:59 PM »

Okay.

ZIRCONBLUE LISTEN TO THE CURE

wkiml · « **Reply #24 on:** June 23, 2011, 02:50:52 PM »

Quote from: SystematicThought on June 22, 2011, 05:09:18 PM

I really like the song Just Like Heaven. That's about as far as I've gone. I'll probably check out more soon

This is the song the grabbed me and pulled me head long into a love with the band....Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me will always be a special album to me but Disintergration is IMHO by far their best album. I listened to this daily for almost 2 years upon its release and still go back to it quite often

Dittomist · « **Reply #25 on:** June 23, 2011, 05:40:00 PM »

I was familiar with a few Cure songs when I was a kid, mostly Friday I'm In Love and The Caterpillar. I liked everything I heard, but I didn't want to give them a real chance because they were "80's English wuss music" and I was strictly a metalhead at the time. Then I saw a video for "Lovesong" when I was in middle school, and it made such an impression on me that I immediately bought Disintegration, which then started a major obsession. And shortly after, I couldn't get enough 80's synth pop, especially Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, New Order, Tears For Fears, Duran Duran, Erasure, etc.

dongringo · « **Reply #26 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:43:11 PM »

One of my favorites is their self titled concept album The Cure from 2004. Simple concept...the rise and fall of lovers. But man, this album contains some of their best work. Great live band as well. They put on quite the show. Very intense to say the least. Great band!

Ravenheart · « **Reply #27 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:50:34 PM »

Yeah, their self-titled is excellent.

Wha I've noticed with The Cure is that, along with Depeche Mode and New Order, nearly all of their output is excellent. Bloodflowers is just as good as their older albums.

I'd love to see them live. A guy I know from another forum caught them on their special tour in Australia where they performed their first 3 albums live. God, what I wouldn't have given to have seen that...

dongringo · « **Reply #28 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:52:40 PM »

Can't imagine seeing that. Must have been mind blowing to those lucky ones who had the privilege of seeing that.

Durg · « **Reply #29 on:** June 24, 2011, 06:31:06 AM »

Quote from: Dittomist on June 23, 2011, 05:40:00 PM

I was familiar with a few Cure songs when I was a kid, mostly Friday I'm In Love and The Caterpillar. I liked everything I heard, but I didn't want to give them a real chance because they were "80's English wuss music" and I was strictly a metalhead at the time. Then I saw a video for "Lovesong" when I was in middle school, and it made such an impression on me that I immediately bought Disintegration, which then started a major obsession. And shortly after, I couldn't get enough 80's synth pop, especially Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, New Order, Tears For Fears, Duran Duran, Erasure, etc.

I was really into Tears For Fears in the late 80's. But not really the others. Huey Lewis and the News was my thing.

ZirconBlue · « **Reply #30 on:** June 24, 2011, 06:51:20 AM »

Quote from: Ravenheart on June 23, 2011, 02:06:59 PM

Okay.

ZIRCONBLUE LISTEN TO THE CURE

I already do.

My wife's a big fan, and I like some of their stuff. Personally, I'm partial to the more atmospheric-yet-danceable stuff like "Burn", or their cover of "Purple Haze".

Dittomist · « **Reply #31 on:** June 24, 2011, 10:24:23 AM »

I am extremely envious of everyone who saw those special shows in Australia last month, where they played Three Imaginary Boys, 17 Seconds, and Faith in their entirety. It was filmed for a DVD called Reflections which will come out later this year I assume. What makes those shows so special is how The Cure played with Lol Tolhurst for the first time in 20 years; considering all the bickering and lawsuits, I certainly never expected to see them share the stage again. I was also delighted that Roger O'Donnel returned to play the keyboards. Robert Smith is a genius but he must be a little hard to work with, because the line-up changes a little with every album it seems, and several members have been on again-off again.

Has anyone noticed how Simon Gallop never ages? That guy seriously has to be a vampire.

I also agree with the quality and ambition of all of The Cure's albums. I thought their most recent album, 4:13 Dream, was their strongest since 96's Wild Mood Swings. It has an unfortunate absense of keyboards because Robert didn't bother to replace Roger O'Donnel, but man, it really rocks!

And even though it's expensive, their b-side collection, Join the Dots, is absolutely essential for diehard Cure fans, as it contains many of their best songs.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #32 on:** June 24, 2011, 10:38:30 AM »

I need those b-sides! You can never have enough Cure, and I hear their b-sides are excellent.

Ravenheart · « **Reply #33 on:** July 11, 2011, 09:29:28 PM »

Just got the Join the Dots collection. I'm stoked to listen to it. I'll report my opinion about it later. I'm sure you're all just dying to know.

Dittomist · « **Reply #34 on:** July 12, 2011, 12:32:53 AM »

Pay extra attention to This Twilight Garden, Play, A Chain of Flowers, Adonais, The Exploding Boy, Too Late, and Fear of Ghosts

News: Video of online chat between fans and members of Dream Theater: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx8cLlXnHpA&feature=youtu.be (*no chickens were harmed during the filming of this chat)

Author Topic: The Cure (Read 21643 times)