Author Topic: Repentance Appreciation Thread (Read 13394 times)

Adami · « **Reply #35 on:** June 21, 2011, 10:05:57 PM »

I don't consider 8vm to be the magnum opus everyone else does. I like it, mostly the flute intro, the outro solo and so forth, but it's still not the godsend that I've been told it is.

Pols Voice · « **Reply #36 on:** June 21, 2011, 10:30:59 PM »

Repentance is very good up until the voice sample section. Then it drags too much. But all in all it's a worthwhile song and I like it better than The Shattered Fortress.

KevShmev · « **Reply #37 on:** June 21, 2011, 10:35:09 PM »

Really good song. Definitely the best song on an otherwise average SC, and definitely the 2nd best 12-step song (just barely better than The Shattered Fortress, but not as good as The Glass Prison). I think the long finish works perfectly.

FlyingBIZKIT · « **Reply #38 on:** June 21, 2011, 10:36:55 PM »

Same here

CrimsonSunrise · « **Reply #39 on:** June 22, 2011, 01:22:37 AM »

Quote from: Adami on June 21, 2011, 10:05:57 PM

I don't consider 8vm to be the magnum opus everyone else does. I like it, mostly the flute intro, the outro solo and so forth, but it's still not the godsend that I've been told it is.

Yeah, I agree. I don't put it in front of songs like ACOS or LTL like many do. At the same time though...Repentance better than it is? I mean...yeah, we all have different tastes, but this would be like me saying You Not Me is better than Lines in the Sand

j · « **Reply #40 on:** June 22, 2011, 02:46:59 AM »

Quote from: Adami on June 21, 2011, 10:05:57 PM

I don't consider 8vm to be the magnum opus everyone else does. I like it, mostly the flute intro, the outro solo and so forth, but it's still not the godsend that I've been told it is.

I'm with you, broheisen. It's a great song, but not quite as great as you'd think after spending some time here at good ol' DTF.

-J

Mladen · « **Reply #41 on:** June 22, 2011, 04:47:25 AM »

Quote from: jonny108 on June 21, 2011, 03:45:42 PM

One of the best songs on SC easily.

Yep. Truly amazing atmosphere...

Sixtease · « **Reply #42 on:** June 22, 2011, 05:08:37 AM »

Hell yeah! Crushing atmosphere. <3

tgstk2 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 22, 2011, 12:14:14 PM »

it's a different tune, very different than wat DT has done EVER!
but it's indeed to long that same riff tones over and over again bores me after a few minuts however the feel to the song is awesome.
and yes it's better than 8v, it's better than 8v the total record.
but it's not in my top 10 of dt songs.

did they hever play the 12 step live? i'm just thinking this ..as i dont think i have heard this song live anywhere or on a bootleg..

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #44 on:** November 29, 2013, 03:39:21 PM »

Bumping to say I could listen to Myung play that dirty bass line of his in this song for hours.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #45 on:** November 29, 2013, 03:51:20 PM »

I enjoy the atmosphere. It really lets you feel the mindset in having to repent. The other artists coming in to say their wrongs was a nice idea. JR's subtle be-bot sounds and those subtle vocoder sounding "ow?" Sounds are cool.

rumborak · « **Reply #46 on:** November 29, 2013, 04:02:04 PM »

Would have been better had it not been part of the AA suite, IMHO. Because then it wouldn't have had that "confession" section which I really don't like (in my perception those confessions are pretty bogus, not very genuine).

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #47 on:** November 29, 2013, 04:53:30 PM »

I'd say they are about 50/50.

XB0BX · « **Reply #48 on:** November 29, 2013, 06:48:18 PM »

One of the best songs on DT's 2nd best album.

orcus116 · « **Reply #49 on:** November 29, 2013, 07:19:58 PM »

Definitely a highlight of the album, one of the very few.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #50 on:** November 29, 2013, 07:50:13 PM »

Quote from: ZKX-2099 on November 29, 2013, 03:39:21 PM

Bumping to say I could listen to Myung play that dirty bass line of his in this song for hours.

o/

I love when he does the big tremolo slides down the neck. Badass.

I just listened to this song the other day. It's a great song, aside from just being a touch too long. Just cut out the speeches from other people, the low talking voice, and it's all good.

Sacul · « **Reply #51 on:** November 29, 2013, 08:29:26 PM »

Truly amazing. It has a strong Steven Wilson and Opeth's Damnation vibe.

Madman Shepherd · « **Reply #52 on:** November 29, 2013, 11:34:59 PM »

This does seem to get shit on a lot more than other songs and I don't get it. Out of the 12 Step Suite it is definitely not the worst (TSF is) but I can see it not being everyones favorite with other strong songs to choose from.

I really love everything about this song EXCEPT some of the voice samples. Some of those people have kind of a weak speaking voice, especially the last person. I also thought having some of those people be so specific about their regrets was....too specific. Here is this grande song about regret and you hear somebody saying, "Sorry I didnt play at your wedding dude"

It doesnt ruin the song but if the quotes had been better it would be pretty much flawless

Polarbear · « **Reply #53 on:** November 30, 2013, 06:40:06 AM »

This song is awesome!

Lowdz · « **Reply #54 on:** November 30, 2013, 08:48:12 AM »

One of three reasons I don't much rate SC. I find the song rather boring. And it comes after CM and TDEN, both of which are also skippers for me, meaning SC goes from Forsaken to PoW. Shortest DT album and the weakest. The rest of the album is fine (PoW) to great (the rest).

I just find Repentance just rambles on without really going anywhere.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #55 on:** November 30, 2013, 04:12:23 PM »

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on November 29, 2013, 11:34:59 PM

This does seem to get shit on a lot more than other songs and I don't get it. Out of the 12 Step Suite it is definitely not the worst (TSF is) but I can see it not being everyones favorite with other strong songs to choose from.

I really love everything about this song EXCEPT some of the voice samples. Some of those people have kind of a weak speaking voice, especially the last person. I also thought having some of those people be so specific about their regrets was....too specific. Here is this grande song about regret and you hear somebody saying, "Sorry I didnt play at your wedding dude"

It doesnt ruin the song but if the quotes had been better it would be pretty much flawless

Well, MP couldve done his own regrets. I find it better he got others to do it, makes it feel like a group session. It drags after the samples and before.

Madman Shepherd · « **Reply #56 on:** November 30, 2013, 08:40:35 PM »

Quote from: Ben_Jamin on November 30, 2013, 04:12:23 PM

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on November 29, 2013, 11:34:59 PM
This does seem to get shit on a lot more than other songs and I don't get it. Out of the 12 Step Suite it is definitely not the worst (TSF is) but I can see it not being everyones favorite with other strong songs to choose from.

I really love everything about this song EXCEPT some of the voice samples. Some of those people have kind of a weak speaking voice, especially the last person. I also thought having some of those people be so specific about their regrets was....too specific. Here is this grande song about regret and you hear somebody saying, "Sorry I didnt play at your wedding dude"

It doesnt ruin the song but if the quotes had been better it would be pretty much flawless

Well, MP couldve done his own regrets. I find it better he got others to do it, makes it feel like a group session. It drags after the samples and before.

Guess I didn't think of that. Hmmm, maybe it'll make me appreciate it more. Gotta listen to it again to see.

JiM-Xtreme · « **Reply #57 on:** December 01, 2013, 03:59:38 PM »

Would actually really appreciate more DT songs like this, with a focus on ambience and mood as opposed to busyness, heaviness or epicness.

Quote from: atalkingfish on June 21, 2011, 03:24:49 PM

Does anyone else hear what seems to be MP going "doo... doo... doo... doo.." throughout the part where everyone is talking? The more high quality the file is, the easier it is to hear it, but it's definitely there.

Does anyone know what that's about?

Thanks for pointing it out... never noticed that before. Yeah, it's kinda weird.

RoeDent · « **Reply #58 on:** December 01, 2013, 05:11:17 PM »

For a time, this was my "obsessive" DT song. The one I just listened to time after time. The chord progression in the final 3 minutes is wonderful. An oasis of calm in the Twelve Step Suite. By far and away my favourite song on SC.

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #59 on:** December 01, 2013, 05:22:34 PM »

Quote from: Lowdz on November 30, 2013, 08:48:12 AM

One of three reasons I don't much rate SC. I find the song rather boring. And it comes after CM and TDEN, both of which are also skippers for me, meaning SC goes from Forsaken to PoW. Shortest DT album and the weakest. The rest of the album is fine (PoW) to great (the rest).

I just find Repentance just rambles on without really going anywhere.

You may want to fix your sig now...

j · « **Reply #60 on:** December 01, 2013, 08:00:32 PM »

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on November 29, 2013, 11:34:59 PM

I also thought having some of those people be so specific about their regrets was....too specific. Here is this grande song about regret and you hear somebody saying, "Sorry I didnt play at your wedding dude"

I agree with this.

Great guitar solo in this song. One of the three songs I like from the 12 step suite.

-J

Daso · « **Reply #61 on:** December 01, 2013, 10:39:57 PM »

I love the song. It's my second favorite off SC, after (pretty much obviously) ITPoE. The only part I don't like is the "aaaaaaaaaah" section near the end, but other than that it's a beautiful song. MP hit those lyrics spot on, and you don't see me complimenting MP's job frequently.

Enalya · « **Reply #62 on:** December 02, 2013, 02:05:31 AM »

Quote from: Daso on December 01, 2013, 10:39:57 PM

The only part I don't like is the "aaaaaaaaaah" section near the end, but other than that it's a beautiful song. MP hit those lyrics spot on, and you don't see me complimenting MP's job frequently.

This ^ Repentence is actually the only one I really like of that album, together with The Dark Eternal Night

farizfariz · « **Reply #63 on:** December 02, 2013, 03:07:56 AM »

I love this song, the lyrics actually.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #64 on:** December 02, 2013, 11:16:47 AM »

Quote from: Enalya on December 02, 2013, 02:05:31 AM

Quote from: Daso on December 01, 2013, 10:39:57 PM
The only part I don't like is the "aaaaaaaaaah" section near the end, but other than that it's a beautiful song. MP hit those lyrics spot on, and you don't see me complimenting MP's job frequently.

This ^ Repentence is actually the only one I really like of that album, together with The Dark Eternal Night

That section I feel is what makes it drag.

Nearmyth · « **Reply #65 on:** December 02, 2013, 03:33:30 PM »

I love this song for all the reasons people dislike it. In my top 30 somewhere. I don't think it's too long.

In fact, I think the longness and repetition throughout the song is what makes it so good. It really sets the mood, and the repetition emphasizes this mood and atmosphere. The regrets section and the harmony section is mostly what I'm referring to. These sections are melancholic, but in a way that's almost uplifting.

The harmony section in particular is pretty intense, it's like you're drifitng in a sea of sorrow, regrets, and melancholy, and you're going deeper and deeper into the water as the song goes on. As you're listening you think "Woah, what have I been listening to for the last couple of minutes? This is intense." I think it's a powerful song in some ways.

Besides those few points, though, the guitar solo is one of JP's very best. Probably because it's one I can actually play

But it's really just beautiful. Great song on an ok album.

JiM-Xtreme · « **Reply #66 on:** December 02, 2013, 04:10:41 PM »

Shame there's little to no chance of this song being played live for the foreseeable future. I would love to experience that solo section live.

Nearmyth · « **Reply #67 on:** December 02, 2013, 04:38:00 PM »

Quote from: JiM-Xtreme on December 02, 2013, 04:10:41 PM

Shame there's little to no chance of this song being played live for the foreseeable future. I would love to experience that solo section live.

Agreed. I would love to see this live sometime.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #68 on:** December 02, 2013, 07:58:31 PM »

Quote from: JiM-Xtreme on December 02, 2013, 04:10:41 PM

Shame there's little to no chance of this song being played live for the foreseeable future. I would love to experience that solo section live.

I wouldn't say there's little to no chance at all! They played TROAE on the ADTOE tour, so nothing from the 12SS is off limits, and I don't see any other strong reason DT wouldn't play it.

JiM-Xtreme · « **Reply #69 on:** December 03, 2013, 03:19:01 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 02, 2013, 07:58:31 PM

Quote from: JiM-Xtreme on December 02, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
Shame there's little to no chance of this song being played live for the foreseeable future. I would love to experience that solo section live.

I wouldn't say there's little to no chance at all! They played TROAE on the ADTOE tour, so nothing from the 12SS is off limits, and I don't see any other strong reason DT wouldn't play it.

I mainly meant because of the spoken word section in the middle. I don't think that section would really work live, and somehow I don't think the band does either, bearing in mind the only time they've played it was with Akerfeldt on stage. Also, the people featured in that section are mostly close musician friends of MP and, as has been mentioned in this thread already, most of the things they say are too "specific".

I realise that still doesn't rule it out entirely, I'm just trying to look at it from the band's point of view.

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Author Topic: Repentance Appreciation Thread (Read 13394 times)