Sherlock

[BlackInk]

I'm always in favor of more Moriarty. And I would have assumed that it was fake if they had not shown that 'miss me?' bit after the credits. That, for me, was kinda confirmation that it was actually him.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Moriarty is amazing, so I really have no problem with him coming back.

[gmillerdrake]

Moriarty is amazing, so I really have no problem with him coming back.

Am I late to the party with the theory that Moriarty is actually another brother of Sherlock? Has that been discussed or offered up? It just seems as if they've hinted at it here and there. Not like they were close growing up but like they always knew there was a brother out there.....

[BlackInk]

Yeah I have heard that theory before. From Mycrofts line "you know what happened to the other one" and how mind-palace-Moriarty phrased "mommy and daddy will cry". I would say that it's possible, but I'm not really an active supporter of the theory.

[masterthes]

Wouldn't Sherlock acknowledge him as such though?

[hefdaddy42]

OK, I'm way behind the times, but my daughter and I just finished the first season.  Great, great stuff.  Cumberbatch and Freeman are amazing.

[ariich]

OK, I'm way behind the times, but my daughter and I just finished the first season.  Great, great stuff.  Cumberbatch and Freeman are amazing.

Awesome, welcome to the club! Second season is even better in my opinion, enjoy!

Wouldn't Sherlock acknowledge him as such though?

Yeah I don't see how that would make any sense. I've heard the theory before, but it wouldn't fit at all in my opinion.

I think what the show does brilliantly is that big twists and reveals make sense. It's not that they make you think "oh I should have spotted that" but they definitely feel sensible. Moriarty being Sherlock and Mycroft's brother just wouldn't fit well with that.

[Scorpion]

OK, I'm way behind the times, but my daughter and I just finished the first season.  Great, great stuff.  Cumberbatch and Freeman are amazing.

Awesome, welcome to the club! Second season is even better in my opinion, enjoy!

Yeah, Season 2 is even better than the Season 1 (mainly because it doesn't have The Blind Banker, even though the middle story is, once again, the weakest of the three) - A Scandal in Belgravia and The Reichenbach Fall are two of the best episodes of anything, ever.

[gmillerdrake]

Wouldn't Sherlock acknowledge him as such though?

That's why I'm curious as to if it were a case of a half brother or just his parents giving him up or something? It's a long shot and for the show....almost too easy of a 'twist' to even be an option. It felt like that's where they were headed though for a bit to me.

[Evermind]

OK, I'm way behind the times, but my daughter and I just finished the first season.  Great, great stuff.  Cumberbatch and Freeman are amazing.

Awesome, welcome to the club! Second season is even better in my opinion, enjoy!

Yeah, Season 2 is even better than the Season 1 (mainly because it doesn't have The Blind Banker, even though the middle story is, once again, the weakest of the three) - A Scandal in Belgravia and The Reichenbach Fall are two of the best episodes of anything, ever.

The Blind Banker is definitely the weakest from S1, but it's a good action-packed episode. I think I like it more than The Hounds of Baskerville.

I would say S1 and S2 are pretty even, maybe S2 is a bit better because of the third episode. I agree with you about A Scandal in Belgravia, best television I've ever seen, but A Study in Pink is incredibly awesome too; The Reichenbach Fall is merely good, however, compared to The Great Game, it's just superior. The Great Game's ending is just awful, I think.

[Scorpion]

... I have no words. That climax of The Great Game - how can you not like that?

[Evermind]

Well, it's cheesy and forced as hell. Everything in this episode was good until the pool scene came in.

[Kotowboy]

The Final Episode of Series 3 with the German memory master..

As soon as he said his vault was in his mind I was like " oh - just shoot him then ".

And they did

[Evermind]

The Final Episode of Series 3 with the German memory master..

As soon as he said his vault was in his mind I was like " oh - just shoot him then ".

And they did

Yeah, that was basically my thought as well.

I guess he's Swedish though.

[Scorpion]

Well, I like it. Both The Great Game and His Last Vow are pretty dang awesome in my opinion.

[gmillerdrake]

I don't have a criticism on any episode. I find the entire series has been nothing but awesome!!

[Scorpion]

I wouldn't go quite that far. The Blind Banker is pretty subpar and The Empty Hearse has some really wonky pacing, but yeah, on the whole, Sherlock is pretty dang amazing.

[ariich]

I don't have a criticism on any episode. I find the entire series has been nothing but awesome!!

Basically this. Blind Banker definitely the weakest but it still has a ton of terrific stuff in it. The rest has just been brilliant IMO, particularly the season finales.

[gmillerdrake]

I wouldn't go quite that far. The Blind Banker is pretty subpar and The Empty Hearse has some really wonky pacing, but yeah, on the whole, Sherlock is pretty dang amazing.

When compared to what's available to watch on Television....I think this show is in the top percentile of 'must see'. Like any show sure it's had some great moments and some 'down' moments.....but all in all it's well written and the acting is top notch.

[hefdaddy42]

It's been interesting watching this with my daughter.  She just likes the show, but I've actually read all of the original SH stories and novels, so she is constantly asking me to compare the two, or asking if something is legit.

[gmillerdrake]

It's been interesting watching this with my daughter.  She just likes the show, but I've actually read all of the original SH stories and novels, so she is constantly asking me to compare the two, or asking if something is legit.

I've never read any of the original material either.....which makes it all new to me. I know Cumberbatch is an actor and he's paid to act and all of that.....but his depiction of Sherlock is great! I can't imagine having to learn the lines he has to learn and deliver them in the manner in which he delivers them.

[hefdaddy42]

He's fantastic.

[Evermind]

Ha, I'm totally the opposite, I've read all the original material some years ago, and that's why I'm actually so fascinated by this series. Those are some brilliant modern adaptation for sure.

[BlackInk]

Personally, I think Baskerville is the weakest (or the least strong) episode. The Blind Banker isn't at all my favorite, but it has some moments I really enjoy. More so than Baskerville.

[ariich]

Baskerville had some fantastic stuff as well. Two in particular - Sherlock doubting whether he can believe the evidence of his own eyes, and Watson in the dark in the complex (I'm not going into too much detail here because SPOILERS for hef who hasn't got that far yet).

[hefdaddy42]

Thanks, buddy.

[bout to crash]

I just started watching this show and I'm 5 episodes in (so almost done with the second season). I'm loving it! Could not stop watching- got through the first season in one night. My only complaint so far is this Moriarty dude- I don't find him very convincing as somebody I should be afraid of. Seems like you guys like him, so maybe there's a good reason for that later in the series, but when he was first introduced as himself in the pool scene I was like "Really? This is the mastermind behind all this?" *shrug*

[BlackInk]

Moriarty is awesome.

[orcus116]

I'm kind of with Jackie on this. He doesn't have any unique defining features as a villain and just kind of comes across as just a typical psychotic guy. He's passable but boring.

[faizoff]

Freaking love this show and season 4 can't come soon enough.

[Scorpion]

I just started watching this show and I'm 5 episodes in (so almost done with the second season). I'm loving it! Could not stop watching- got through the first season in one night. My only complaint so far is this Moriarty dude- I don't find him very convincing as somebody I should be afraid of. Seems like you guys like him, so maybe there's a good reason for that later in the series, but when he was first introduced as himself in the pool scene I was like "Really? This is the mastermind behind all this?" *shrug*

The Season 2 finale is basically Moriarty at his very best. Now, I loved in in the Season 1 finale too so your mileage may vary, but don't write him off just yet.

[gmillerdrake]

I just started watching this show and I'm 5 episodes in (so almost done with the second season). I'm loving it! Could not stop watching- got through the first season in one night. My only complaint so far is this Moriarty dude- I don't find him very convincing as somebody I should be afraid of. Seems like you guys like him, so maybe there's a good reason for that later in the series, but when he was first introduced as himself in the pool scene I was like "Really? This is the mastermind behind all this?" *shrug*

The Season 2 finale is basically Moriarty at his very best. Now, I loved in in the Season 1 finale too so your mileage may vary, but don't write him off just yet.

Yeah....his sinisterness (yeah, that's a word apparently) just continues to build as his character's presence increases

[Evermind]

I'm kind of with Jackie on this. He doesn't have any unique defining features as a villain and just kind of comes across as just a typical psychotic guy. He's passable but boring.

I agree. I never liked Moriarty in this series, though I admit in S2E3 he was quite good. I dunno, I always pictured Moriarty as more serious and somber guy. I love how Moffat and Gatiss deviate from books in their plots, I love how they've made those series more modern, but I hate their choices about Moriarty. One of the few gripes I have with these series.

[BlackInk]

It took a little while for me to accept this take on Moriarty. The one in the RDJ movie is easier to handle, since it's pretty much exactly how one would picture him. But over the years I have come to absolutely love the series Moriarty, and I way prefer him over the more classic one in the movies.

[gmillerdrake]

This being my only exposure to Moriarty I'm perfectly fine with this interpretation of him. Just odd and frail looking enough to be overlooked and underestimated but also seems to be several steps ahead of most everyone when it comes to his intentions.