Have we officially entered the phase of "all-female remakes"?

[rumborak]

The remake of Ghostbusters was already horrendously bad, but I just saw that there will be an "Ocean 8" with all women:

https://i.imgur.com/PuPHGe3.jpg

Already looks bad from the picture.

[Kotowboy]

Just let them get on with it. When they consistently have low box office returns - they might get the hint.

It's only happening to fulfil some imaginary quota and to satiate a small demographic.

Ghostbusters 2016 was exclusively made to thrive on the bad press and fake sexism.

The whole debacle was CREATED by the studio. Vaguely negative comments about the trailer were deleted and all the sexist comments were left behind.

I normally respect Mark Kermode's opinion but he is a renowned feminist and he called out all the sexism and gave the movie a decent review.

Which was the goal all along. Well done Mark. You fell for it.


Now before this debate goes too far - I want to point out that I have absolutely nothing against female lead roles. I loved Rey and Jyn in Force Awakens and Rogue One...

It's when it's done for the sake of it...

Like..." Hey come see this movie it has female leads FOR A CHANGE !!!! "

[hefdaddy42]

The remake of Ghostbusters was already horrendously bad, but I just saw that there will be an "Ocean 8" with all women:

https://i.imgur.com/PuPHGe3.jpg

Already looks bad from the picture.

It's not a remake.  It's a tangential continuation from the earlier films.

Sandra Bullock plays Danny Ocean's sister (or other female relative), who puts together her own team for a new job.

[Kotowboy]

All the GB 2016 original actor cameos were SO forced and shoved in.

Dan Aykroyd's was particularly bad. He literally drives up in a taxi - says " I ain't afraid of no ghost " ...and drives off.

So so bad.


They could have made their own movie with the same 4 leads and called it Paranormal Investigators...

But then it wouldn't have had as much publicity and it wouldn't also be trading on nostalgia and brand recognition and fake outrage.

[rumborak]

The remake of Ghostbusters was already horrendously bad, but I just saw that there will be an "Ocean 8" with all women:

https://i.imgur.com/PuPHGe3.jpg

Already looks bad from the picture.

It's not a remake.  It's a tangential continuation from the earlier films.

Sandra Bullock plays Danny Ocean's sister (or other female relative), who puts together her own team for a new job.

Oh, I understand that, but I feel that's almost a semantic difference. In the end, it's still "Ocean's 11 with women".

[kaos2900]

As soon as I saw Rihanna I quit reading. How in the world did she get the gig compared to some of the other stellar actresses. Wow.

[rumborak]

As soon as I saw Rihanna I quit reading. How in the world did she get the gig compared to some of the other stellar actresses. Wow.

They needed a black female actress, to be the Bernie Mac equivalent.

[Chino]

The remake of Ghostbusters was already horrendously bad, but I just saw that there will be an "Ocean 8" with all women:

https://i.imgur.com/PuPHGe3.jpg

Already looks bad from the picture.

It's not a remake.  It's a tangential continuation from the earlier films.

Sandra Bullock plays Danny Ocean's sister (or other female relative), who puts together her own team for a new job.

Oh, I understand that, but I feel that's almost a semantic difference. In the end, it's still "Ocean's 11 with women".

Man, I really suck with movies. I never saw it, but always assumed Ocean's 11 was an all female movie 

[bosk1]

The remake of Ghostbusters was already horrendously bad, but I just saw that there will be an "Ocean 8" with all women:

https://i.imgur.com/PuPHGe3.jpg

Already looks bad from the picture.

It's not a remake.  It's a tangential continuation from the earlier films.

Sandra Bullock plays Danny Ocean's sister (or other female relative), who puts together her own team for a new job.

Oh, I understand that, but I feel that's almost a semantic difference. In the end, it's still "Ocean's 11 with women".

Man, I really suck with movies. I never saw it, but always assumed Ocean's 11 was an all female movie 

  Not even remotely.  Not sure why anyone would think that.  It's a heist movie with a mostly male-dominated cast.

[Adami]

Let me know when they do an all female remake of 300.

[bosk1]

[Chino]

The remake of Ghostbusters was already horrendously bad, but I just saw that there will be an "Ocean 8" with all women:

https://i.imgur.com/PuPHGe3.jpg

Already looks bad from the picture.

It's not a remake.  It's a tangential continuation from the earlier films.

Sandra Bullock plays Danny Ocean's sister (or other female relative), who puts together her own team for a new job.

Oh, I understand that, but I feel that's almost a semantic difference. In the end, it's still "Ocean's 11 with women".

Man, I really suck with movies. I never saw it, but always assumed Ocean's 11 was an all female movie 

  Not even remotely.  Not sure why anyone would think that.  It's a heist movie with a mostly male-dominated cast.

Idk. I was just always under the impression it was a female action franchise like Charlie's Angels.

[Chino]

Let me know when they do an all female remake of 300.

yes please

[hefdaddy42]

Man, I really suck with movies. I never saw it, but always assumed Ocean's 11 was an all female movie 

  Not even remotely.  Not sure why anyone would think that.  It's a heist movie with a mostly male-dominated cast.

Idk. I was just always under the impression it was a female action franchise like Charlie's Angels.

Yes, but why?

[bosk1]

Probably for the same reason I was always under the impression that Avatar was an all-female remake of the Smurfs? 

[Chino]

Man, I really suck with movies. I never saw it, but always assumed Ocean's 11 was an all female movie 

  Not even remotely.  Not sure why anyone would think that.  It's a heist movie with a mostly male-dominated cast.

Idk. I was just always under the impression it was a female action franchise like Charlie's Angels.

Yes, but why?

I don't know. I never saw the movie. Can't recall seeing a trailer or hearing the movie discussed the movie in depth. "Oceans 11" just sounds like a movie that'd revolve around chicks. Maybe my mind while undergoing the chemical imbalances of puberty associated "Oceans" with "Baywatch" or something.

[Kotowboy]

ITS BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE LOTS OF CHICKS IN ONE PLACE THEY ALL PISS AT THE SAME TIME.

AMIRITE

[orcus116]

In the end, it's still "Ocean's 11 with women".

That was probably the entire pitch before it was instantly greenlit.

[bosk1]

Maybe that'll be the tagline in the trailer as well.  You'll have whatever else leading up to that, and then as the trailer draws to a close, you'll have that gritty voiced narrator say, "In the end..."  [cut to montage slow motion gigantic explosion inside of some Vegas mega-casino, which then cuts to the female lead mouthing "Nooooooo!" (also in extreme slo-mo), which then fades to black] "...it's Ocean's 11...with women."  [fade in the in-theaters-near-you date]

[KevShmev]

I caught a little of that new Ghostbusters on TV the other day.  It looked horrendous, and that is putting it nicely.

[pogoowner]

I haven't seen it, but it did okay with critics. Not great, but not horrendous either. Seems like the nonsensical "controversy" around it just made the average person unable to judge it on is own merits.

[TioJorge]

So, my only issue with this new shtick is that it's so fucking obvious that it's a gimmick. Like disgustingly so, so much that it seems to me that any woman with half an ounce of respect or wit might actually be offended by these instead of saying "Oh how nice!". These aren't movies that are tailored around these women and were written specifically for them and for women, they're just as exploitative in a different way and it's making the entire genre of movies based around women look like shit just because the movies and scripts themselves are totally covered in shit, not because of the women themselves (except for Melissa McCarthy, that woman is fucking grating as hell).

If they made a movie that was thoughtful of the cast of all women that it cast, it'd be leagues better than this shallow, cash-grab drivel.

That's my issue, not with the actual existence of a movie specifically tailored around an all woman cast. It just so happens that they're latching onto shitty remakes that are blindingly horrible and they're not even trying to hide it. Ocean's series...all men...Ghostbusters...all men...BETTER THROW SOME WOMEN UP IN THERE! So fucking stupid.

[rumborak]

I caught a little of that new Ghostbusters on TV the other day.  It looked horrendous, and that is putting it nicely.

I was on a long flight to Germany, and even then did I not last longer than 30 minutes into the movie. It couldn't even beat intercontinental ennui, and that says something.

[BlobVanDam]

So, my only issue with this new shtick is that it's so fucking obvious that it's a gimmick. Like disgustingly so, so much that it seems to me that any woman with half an ounce of respect or wit might actually be offended by these instead of saying "Oh how nice!". These aren't movies that are tailored around these women and were written specifically for them and for women, they're just as exploitative in a different way and it's making the entire genre of movies based around women look like shit just because the movies and scripts themselves are totally covered in shit, not because of the women themselves (except for Melissa McCarthy, that woman is fucking grating as hell).

If they made a movie that was thoughtful of the cast of all women that it cast, it'd be leagues better than this shallow, cash-grab drivel.

That's my issue, not with the actual existence of a movie specifically tailored around an all woman cast. It just so happens that they're latching onto shitty remakes that are blindingly horrible and they're not even trying to hide it. Ocean's series...all men...Ghostbusters...all men...BETTER THROW SOME WOMEN UP IN THERE! So fucking stupid.

I agree with most of this.
The problem is that Hollywood in general relies so heavily on remakes/reboots these days to make guaranteed money even with established male movie stars, so they won't want to risk it when doing something a little different like having a female cast. Unfortunately, because big Hollywood movies have usually had male protagonists in the past, it doesn't leave them as many options. And gender swapping well known franchises may create a backlash because it will look like token equality, and strays further from the source material.

I think it's an important issue to address, but Hollywood is not that well equipped in its current state to do it justice.

[Adami]

I think they should do other all minority remakes of famous movies.

All black remake of Pleasantville.

All orthodox Jewish remake of Predator.

All LGBT remake of Rocky.

Who's with me?!?!

[Chino]

If they made a movie that was thoughtful of the cast of all women that it cast, it'd be leagues better than this shallow, cash-grab drivel.

[Shooters1221]

Well, other than Ghost busters absolutely HORRID remake, I can't think of any other female remakes and let's hope we won't see anymore, as I'm not even sure they're making a sequel. We'll probably see 10 more Spiderman rehashes before more female remakes.