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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2013, 11:22:19 AM »

You do understand that it is 1) only a minute and a half long and 2) part of a suite that is telling the story of their brief brush with fame.    (there's also a "call back" in the lyrics to their first video/single "We're Not Amused")

I think it really fits in the scope of the longer piece. 

My favorites from that album are Young Man's Dream, It's Not Over, Through, Nothing to Say, and the entire "Machine Fish Suite" which I think it brilliant.

It's 1:23 i'll never get back and 1:23 I'll never listen to again.


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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2013, 02:12:47 PM »
I just have a hard time wrapping my head around that concept any more.

When I was 15 years old, I brought home a brand new album from a band I had never heard of called Metallica.  That brand new release was Ride The Lightning, and I had never heard a note...I just liked the name.

When Fight Fire With Fire started...I laughed.   I laughed a lot.   I found it hard to believe that anyone could make something so terrible and actually be serious.   It was the worst dreck I had ever heard in my entire life.   I laughed the way that you might laugh at Steel Panther...or maybe even Rebecca Black...because there was nothing on my radar that could convince me that these guys were even for real.   It *had* to be a joke, right?

I actually tried to return the album because I thought it was the most god-awful noise I had ever heard, and I never wanted to ever subject my aural passages to the musical version of Ipecac ever again.    But the record store had a no-return policy, so I was stuck with it. 

Two months later, it was the single most amazing albums I had ever heard in my life, and FFWF was one of the highlights of the entire album.

From that day forward, I have NEVER given snap judgments to anything.   Not even Perry Como.   Quite often, the things I have detested the most on my initial listen, are the things that broadened my horizons the most in the long run.    Not *everything* has turned out that way...but since that day in late'84, I have never judged any song on the first listen....and certainly not in a minute and a half.   
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Re: The Galactic Cowboys Thread
« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2013, 02:32:23 PM »
The Machine Fish Suite really is a masterpiece of metal/power-pop combo. I'd hate to know someone missed it because of first impressions of 1:23 of it.

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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2013, 02:34:04 PM »
The Machine Fish Suite really is a masterpiece of metal/power-pop combo. I'd hate to know someone missed it because of first impressions of 1:23 of it.

Honestly after that track I switched over to the PSMS Live in Tokyo dual CD set. I'll pick back up on the GC later, but not re-starting that track.


Why is the Machine Fish Suite not on the appropriately titled album Machine Fish (which doesn't seem well received at all.. maybe with good reason if it resembles this).


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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2013, 02:37:01 PM »
I just have a hard time wrapping my head around that concept any more.

When I was 15 years old, I brought home a brand new album from a band I had never heard of called Metallica.  That brand new release was Ride The Lightning, and I had never heard a note...I just liked the name.

When Fight Fire With Fire started...I laughed.   I laughed a lot.   I found it hard to believe that anyone could make something so terrible and actually be serious.   It was the worst dreck I had ever heard in my entire life.   I laughed the way that you might laugh at Steel Panther...or maybe even Rebecca Black...because there was nothing on my radar that could convince me that these guys were even for real.   It *had* to be a joke, right?

I actually tried to return the album because I thought it was the most god-awful noise I had ever heard, and I never wanted to ever subject my aural passages to the musical version of Ipecac ever again.    But the record store had a no-return policy, so I was stuck with it. 

Two months later, it was the single most amazing albums I had ever heard in my life, and FFWF was one of the highlights of the entire album.

From that day forward, I have NEVER given snap judgments to anything.   Not even Perry Como.   Quite often, the things I have detested the most on my initial listen, are the things that broadened my horizons the most in the long run.    Not *everything* has turned out that way...but since that day in late'84, I have never judged any song on the first listen....and certainly not in a minute and a half.

Meh, it's the same way when I listen to 8VM in iTunes I omit Panic Attack from the track list. I just can't deal with it.  I'll do the same here unless by some wizardry the song gets better.

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Re: The Galactic Cowboys Thread
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2013, 03:54:19 PM »
The Machine Fish Suite really is a masterpiece of metal/power-pop combo. I'd hate to know someone missed it because of first impressions of 1:23 of it.

Honestly after that track I switched over to the PSMS Live in Tokyo dual CD set. I'll pick back up on the GC later, but not re-starting that track.


Why is the Machine Fish Suite not on the appropriately titled album Machine Fish (which doesn't seem well received at all.. maybe with good reason if it resembles this).

"Machine Fish" was a running gag.  (as I alluded to in my video)   About the time that the Galactic Cowboys were signed, many of the bands that "made it" had either the word "machine" or "fish" in their names.   So they made the joke that they *should* have named themselves "Machine Fish"...then they would have hit it big.   Thus, the title of the album.    But then after that, they decided to write a suite of songs about their experience in being picked up, chewed up, and spit out by the music machine/industry/business.   So "The Machine Fish Suite" seemed appropriate.

BTW...Geffen really was behind them...until Nirvana became the darling of the label.   If you remember the movie "Airheads" with Brendon Frasier, Steve Bushemi, and Adam Sandler....The Galactic Cowboys had a cameo as "the band that got signed" by the radio station playing their single.   In the movie, they were called "Sons of Thunder" and they played a song called "Don't Hate Me (Because I'm Beautiful)".     Interestingly enough, The Galactic Cowboys wrote that song for the movie...were featured in the movie playing that song...and then the song subsequently DID NOT appear on the Airheads soundtrack (which *did* feature songs that were never played in the movie....go figure).

The song was never heard in its entirety because the rights to the recording were retained by the movie studio.   So the song has become something of a legend...because no one has ever heard the song outside of the few seconds that were featured in the movie.

But I just exchanged a couple of Emails with Monty where I brought up the idea of re-recording the song, and he said that it had never occurred to him and it sounded like a great idea and that he would bring up the idea to the other guys.    I do not know if anything will ever come of that...but I did think it was cool that Monty was at least interested in the idea.

That would be an interesting 25th anniversary present to the fans anyway.
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Re: The Galactic Cowboys Thread
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2013, 05:20:32 PM »
Yeah I remember Airheads and read about GC/Sons of Thunder a couple weeks ago.   :rollin


I'm trying to recall the bands in the 90s with Machine or Fish in the name.

Rage against the Machine
Machinehead
Fishbone

That's all I got right now.

On a related note my copy of "At the end of the day", the last track doesn't read properly. I get about 1m1s of it, instead of 3+ minutes.  I gotta get with my vendor to see about another copy.



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« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2013, 10:34:05 PM »
ITT Mindflux totally misunderstands the Galactic Cowboy's backstory and discography. It's actually a fascinating cautionary story for would-be rock stars and they paint a clever and complex picture of their experience from one album to the next. Definitely a band that deserves a listen through in album order.
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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2013, 09:58:34 AM »
ITT Mindflux totally misunderstands the Galactic Cowboy's backstory and discography. It's actually a fascinating cautionary story for would-be rock stars and they paint a clever and complex picture of their experience from one album to the next. Definitely a band that deserves a listen through in album order.

That may be because the only disc I have listened to right now is "At the end of the day".  "Machine Fish" and "The horse that bud bought" just came in yesterday but I've not listened.

I just noticed these discs say "A Wilde Silas musicwork".  Are you just a big fan or a band member?
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Re: The Galactic Cowboys Thread
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2013, 10:15:50 AM »
They do?   I thought only the first two albums said that?  In fact, I'm looking at At the End of the Day and I don't see Wilde Silas anywhere.    They stopped doing that at the same time King's X did....though no really detailed explanation was ever given by either band. 
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« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2013, 10:27:07 AM »
They do?   I thought only the first two albums said that?  In fact, I'm looking at At the End of the Day and I don't see Wilde Silas anywhere.    They stopped doing that at the same time King's X did....though no really detailed explanation was ever given by either band.

I just got Space in your face and the self titled today, so that's what I was looking at when I typed that out. Only because I recognized it as the guys username as well. Otherwise I wouldn't have ever noticed it.


So now I've got:

S/T
Space In your Face
Machine Fish
The Horse That Bud Bought
At The End Of the Day (defective, waiting for replacement)

I'm waiting for Feel The Rage, and I need to order Let It Go.


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« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2013, 12:34:07 PM »
I believe Wilde Silas is associated with the records Sam Taylor produced.

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« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2013, 01:28:46 PM »
I believe Wilde Silas is associated with the records Sam Taylor produced.

Ya this.  And I got the impression (both from the bands material post-Sam Taylor and the fact that neither band speaks of it) that the whole situation was a pretty sore subject. 
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« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2014, 03:17:24 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkFIzATZIeg

Enjoy the song "Where Are You Now", but for some fun pay attention at the 5:30 mark.  The band continues jamming as the bassist Monty Colvin does the phone call everybody has thought about at one time.  Getting some fame and calling up some girl you wanted in high school that didn't even know you existed.  It doesn't quite go the way of the fantasy however.
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« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2014, 09:43:01 AM »
Remember me??  High School???   


 :rollin :rollin

That song has always been a favorite of mine.  I know it well.
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Re: The Galactic Cowboys Thread
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2014, 01:03:09 PM »
I love the entire Space in Your Face record. But Where Are You Now certainly stands out in a lot of ways.

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« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2014, 09:03:10 PM »
Girl: "What was the name again?"

Monty: "Galactic Cowboys."

Girl: "But it's not a country band?"

Monty: "No...."

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« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2016, 11:18:47 PM »
Monty Colvin has officially announced on his podcast that The Galactic Cowboys WILL record a new album with the original lineup (Dane Sonnier will be back on guitar).    He says that it's not fan funded, they have actually been signed to a label, but he didn't specify which one, other than to say it was a "progressive" label....but not as in "prog rock"....more as in "progressive forms of music"...

I'm completely excited and totally shocked.   This was a reunion that I honestly did not think would ever happen!!!
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« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2016, 11:35:42 PM »
HOLY SHIT

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« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2016, 09:10:39 AM »
yes, that is awesome news jammindude. I need to check out that podcast, as I recall you passed it along a few months ago and I enjoyed some of them.

new Galactic Cowboys could potentially be awesome (many reunions are like The Tea Party album from 2014..but then some are not like the 1st Big Wreck reunion record..the 2nd 1 was a lot better though).

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« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2016, 01:39:28 AM »
Awesome news indeed!

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« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2017, 06:09:14 AM »
Fall Release including on Vinyl.

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« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2017, 07:41:16 AM »
This Samsära guy doesn't post too much, but he's pretty much always right.  :tup