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Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« on: April 26, 2011, 04:46:22 AM »
I'm going to sell almost everything i've collected in almost 20 years. I love metal and that's part of the problem - I could listen to in endlessly and endlessly play along to it every night. But it's been isolating me from people I want to be around. So I've been fasting from it along with other things for a lot of months now. And if I have a woman round to the flat, she doesn't want metal CDs in her face. And since there's no reason to have them with MP3s, Youtube etc I'll sell them/give them away to people who are congruent listening to them.

Also, I discovered that one of the reasons I've often listened to this music is to get approval from a parent who hated "modern" music and I thought I could prove (to myself or the parent) that it's as complex, intricate etc as anything they'd listened to.

So thankyou metal, thankyou God, thankyou metalGods (Halford, Dickinson etc) - I'm giving it back to the universe for other souls who can use it.

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2011, 05:11:14 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2011, 05:12:53 AM »
Give them to me. :yarr
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2011, 05:52:18 AM »
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2011, 06:26:46 AM »
I'm going to sell almost everything i've collected in almost 20 years. I love metal and that's part of the problem - I could listen to in endlessly and endlessly play along to it every night. But it's been isolating me from people I want to be around. So I've been fasting from it along with other things for a lot of months now. And if I have a woman round to the flat, she doesn't want metal CDs in her face. And since there's no reason to have them with MP3s, Youtube etc I'll sell them/give them away to people who are congruent listening to them.

Also, I discovered that one of the reasons I've often listened to this music is to get approval from a parent who hated "modern" music and I thought I could prove (to myself or the parent) that it's as complex, intricate etc as anything they'd listened to.

So thankyou metal, thankyou God, thankyou metalGods (Halford, Dickinson etc) - I'm giving it back to the universe for other souls who can use it.

Amen.

This is strange.  Why would you want to give up something you love, just for the convenience of others?  I actually do see what you are trying to get at, but why the hell would you have to sell everything?  Have you heard of small doses and prioritizing and time management?

The bolded sentence just baffles me.  You sound like my best friend in high school.  he liked metal for a while, but eventually thought it wasn't cool and conformed and just listened to what everyone else was listening to.  At the end of our friendship he kept saying things like "Why do you listen to the metal stuff, girls aren't gonna like you.  How are you going to have a conversation with a girl when she asks what music you like and you say stupid bands like Judas Priest, Halford, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden etc."  I wasn't his friend anymore.

I've actually gotten my girlfriend into metal over the years, there would be no way I would give up my prog/metal for a woman.  Some days, we like to take a break and I spend the day blasting some metal on my own, it's good for us.

Rethink about what you are saying and what makes YOU happy in life because Andy, this is a strange thread.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2011, 06:30:26 AM »
Wolf...you aren't familiar with Andy's other threads, are you? :lol
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2011, 06:32:19 AM »
Wolf...you aren't familiar with Andy's other threads, are you? :lol

Actually, now that you mention it, I remember the one about free porn or something, pretty sure that was Andy's, wasn't it?  :rollin
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2011, 06:43:32 AM »
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       Please don't give up a love or passion of yours. strictly for the sake of a female. They sell CD closets whereas, you can keep your beloved music and IT WONT BE IN HER FACE.
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 06:47:04 AM »
I agree with Wolf! If its making you spend less time with important people, can't you just limit the amount of time you spend listening to this music? Is selling them really a must.

Also, if you want to get in a girls pants that badly, just lie about what type of music you like :p

If you want a serious relationship, and they won't go out with you if you listen to metal, then screw them :)

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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 06:48:07 AM »
I'm going to sell almost everything i've collected in almost 20 years. I love metal and that's part of the problem - I could listen to in endlessly and endlessly play along to it every night. But it's been isolating me from people I want to be around. So I've been fasting from it along with other things for a lot of months now. And if I have a woman round to the flat, she doesn't want metal CDs in her face. And since there's no reason to have them with MP3s, Youtube etc I'll sell them/give them away to people who are congruent listening to them.

Also, I discovered that one of the reasons I've often listened to this music is to get approval from a parent who hated "modern" music and I thought I could prove (to myself or the parent) that it's as complex, intricate etc as anything they'd listened to.

So thankyou metal, thankyou God, thankyou metalGods (Halford, Dickinson etc) - I'm giving it back to the universe for other souls who can use it.

Amen.

This is strange.  Why would you want to give up something you love, just for the convenience of others?  I actually do see what you are trying to get at, but why the hell would you have to sell everything?  Have you heard of small doses and prioritizing and time management?

The bolded sentence just baffles me.  You sound like my best friend in high school.  he liked metal for a while, but eventually thought it wasn't cool and conformed and just listened to what everyone else was listening to.  At the end of our friendship he kept saying things like "Why do you listen to the metal stuff, girls aren't gonna like you.  How are you going to have a conversation with a girl when she asks what music you like and you say stupid bands like Judas Priest, Halford, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden etc."  I wasn't his friend anymore.

I've actually gotten my girlfriend into metal over the years, there would be no way I would give up my prog/metal for a woman.  Some days, we like to take a break and I spend the day blasting some metal on my own, it's good for us.

Rethink about what you are saying and what makes YOU happy in life because Andy, this is a strange thread.

It doesn't make me happy. I don't find anything innately wrong with the music but my relationship with it. It's not about sharing but retreat - and possibly parental approval/disapproval.

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 06:49:00 AM »
The fact is, anybody that cares about someone should never expect them to give up something they love, especially something so trivial as music and a cd collection.  If a girl was so superficial and told me that my taste in music needs to change for us to form a relationship, her ass would be on the curb so damn fast, I wouldn't care who the hell she was.
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 06:51:14 AM »
I'm going to sell almost everything i've collected in almost 20 years. I love metal and that's part of the problem - I could listen to in endlessly and endlessly play along to it every night. But it's been isolating me from people I want to be around. So I've been fasting from it along with other things for a lot of months now. And if I have a woman round to the flat, she doesn't want metal CDs in her face. And since there's no reason to have them with MP3s, Youtube etc I'll sell them/give them away to people who are congruent listening to them.

Also, I discovered that one of the reasons I've often listened to this music is to get approval from a parent who hated "modern" music and I thought I could prove (to myself or the parent) that it's as complex, intricate etc as anything they'd listened to.

So thankyou metal, thankyou God, thankyou metalGods (Halford, Dickinson etc) - I'm giving it back to the universe for other souls who can use it.

Amen.

This is strange.  Why would you want to give up something you love, just for the convenience of others?  I actually do see what you are trying to get at, but why the hell would you have to sell everything?  Have you heard of small doses and prioritizing and time management?

The bolded sentence just baffles me.  You sound like my best friend in high school.  he liked metal for a while, but eventually thought it wasn't cool and conformed and just listened to what everyone else was listening to.  At the end of our friendship he kept saying things like "Why do you listen to the metal stuff, girls aren't gonna like you.  How are you going to have a conversation with a girl when she asks what music you like and you say stupid bands like Judas Priest, Halford, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden etc."  I wasn't his friend anymore.

I've actually gotten my girlfriend into metal over the years, there would be no way I would give up my prog/metal for a woman.  Some days, we like to take a break and I spend the day blasting some metal on my own, it's good for us.

Rethink about what you are saying and what makes YOU happy in life because Andy, this is a strange thread.

It doesn't make me happy. I don't find anything innately wrong with the music but my relationship with it. It's not about sharing but retreat - and possibly parental approval/disapproval.

What do you have to prove, and as I said above, anyone who expects you to change your music taste to make them happy is a heartless, selfish, troubled person.

I really don't understand this at all dude.  I'm off to bed, but to sum up my views on this topic;



I hope you can find closure on this nevertheless and make yourself feel more at ease, I guess that's the main thing after all.
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 07:20:46 AM »
If you don't metal up your ass, we are not a match.

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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 07:30:44 AM »
I'm going to sell almost everything i've collected in almost 20 years. I love metal and that's part of the problem - I could listen to in endlessly and endlessly play along to it every night. But it's been isolating me from people I want to be around. So I've been fasting from it along with other things for a lot of months now. And if I have a woman round to the flat, she doesn't want metal CDs in her face. And since there's no reason to have them with MP3s, Youtube etc I'll sell them/give them away to people who are congruent listening to them.

Also, I discovered that one of the reasons I've often listened to this music is to get approval from a parent who hated "modern" music and I thought I could prove (to myself or the parent) that it's as complex, intricate etc as anything they'd listened to.

So thankyou metal, thankyou God, thankyou metalGods (Halford, Dickinson etc) - I'm giving it back to the universe for other souls who can use it.

Amen.

This is strange.  Why would you want to give up something you love, just for the convenience of others?  I actually do see what you are trying to get at, but why the hell would you have to sell everything?  Have you heard of small doses and prioritizing and time management?

The bolded sentence just baffles me.  You sound like my best friend in high school.  he liked metal for a while, but eventually thought it wasn't cool and conformed and just listened to what everyone else was listening to.  At the end of our friendship he kept saying things like "Why do you listen to the metal stuff, girls aren't gonna like you.  How are you going to have a conversation with a girl when she asks what music you like and you say stupid bands like Judas Priest, Halford, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden etc."  I wasn't his friend anymore.

I've actually gotten my girlfriend into metal over the years, there would be no way I would give up my prog/metal for a woman.  Some days, we like to take a break and I spend the day blasting some metal on my own, it's good for us.

Rethink about what you are saying and what makes YOU happy in life because Andy, this is a strange thread.

It doesn't make me happy. I don't find anything innately wrong with the music but my relationship with it. It's not about sharing but retreat - and possibly parental approval/disapproval.

What do you have to prove, and as I said above, anyone who expects you to change your music taste to make them happy is a heartless, selfish, troubled person.

I really don't understand this at all dude.  I'm off to bed, but to sum up my views on this topic;



I hope you can find closure on this nevertheless and make yourself feel more at ease, I guess that's the main thing after all.
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2011, 08:01:19 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2011, 08:20:42 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2011, 04:08:47 PM »
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2011, 05:04:32 PM »
Andy,

As others have stated, selling you collection isn't the answer to your situation, which you imply by saying you can listen to mp3s and youtube.  You are who you are, and you are trying to be overaccomidating to others right now.  Over the past several months, I (and likely DTF) have witnessed a great amount of personal growth in you.  You seem like a genuinely more happy person than you were when I first joined the forum nearly 2 years ago.  But in the end, you are still an individual, and a large part of who you are is your past and your interests.  You shouldn't give them up because it seems like the next step in social growth.  Becoming what you think others want you to be makes you less of a person.  Look at all the happily married people on DTF who like the same music you and I do.  Their music choices didn't hold them back.  Your music choices didn't make you an outcast, your inner shell did - and you've been breaking that down and becoming a more well rounded person.  You're a real interesting person and now that you've started putting yourself out there others are seeing it as well, but you have to stay AndyDT...you can't become a doormat for people to walk over and make their everlasting footprint on you.
     

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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2011, 05:25:00 PM »
Andy dude, if a girl finds all this "metal in her face" and it annoys her and makes her dislike you because she can't accept your passion then that makes her insecure. It goes for anybody; male or female, friend, lover, acquaintance, whatever the fuck.

Now don't think this makes it any better, because it makes "you" just as insecure.

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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2011, 06:10:37 PM »
Andy,

As others have stated, selling you collection isn't the answer to your situation, which you imply by saying you can listen to mp3s and youtube.  You are who you are, and you are trying to be overaccomidating to others right now.  Over the past several months, I (and likely DTF) have witnessed a great amount of personal growth in you.  You seem like a genuinely more happy person than you were when I first joined the forum nearly 2 years ago.  But in the end, you are still an individual, and a large part of who you are is your past and your interests.  You shouldn't give them up because it seems like the next step in social growth.  Becoming what you think others want you to be makes you less of a person.  Look at all the happily married people on DTF who like the same music you and I do.  Their music choices didn't hold them back.  Your music choices didn't make you an outcast, your inner shell did - and you've been breaking that down and becoming a more well rounded person.  You're a real interesting person and now that you've started putting yourself out there others are seeing it as well, but you have to stay AndyDT...you can't become a doormat for people to walk over and make their everlasting footprint on you.
Andy dude, if a girl finds all this "metal in her face" and it annoys her and makes her dislike you because she can't accept your passion then that makes her insecure. It goes for anybody; male or female, friend, lover, acquaintance, whatever the fuck.

Now don't think this makes it any better, because it makes "you" just as insecure.

Really good advice guys.

Stay true to yourself Andy, people that are worth your time will like you for who you are.  And if you are looking for a relationship, changing yourself isn't ever going to make it happen.  You will find someone that likes you for who you are, you won't need to change and that person will accept you and love you for who you are, interests and all.
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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2011, 06:59:26 PM »
Andy, dude, really think about this for a second.

Any person that would want you to change your taste in music for them is not someone you want to be around.  They will destroy your sense of self rather then help you find it.  Most people will see what you're doing and think you have no respect for yourself whatsoever and avoid you.

There are certain things you do for the sake of fitting in with other people.  You stop picking your nose when you're a little kid, you don't swear loudly in public, and you don't stare at girls whose boobs are sticking out.  This is part of embracing maturity.  But deciding not to listen to music you clearly enjoy on a deep level?  Where did you get this from?

Do you think any licensed therapist would ever tell you to do this?  Do you think anyone who actually loved you would tell you to do this?  I can't imagine you could do either.  So why would you make this decision?
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2011, 07:04:58 PM »
You stop picking your nose when you're a little kid, you don't swear loudly in public, and you don't stare at girls whose boobs are sticking out.

You're not suppose to do those things??  :\
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2011, 07:09:07 PM »
Don't listen to them Andy. Send me your whole CD collection now or no one will ever like you.

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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2011, 07:25:30 PM »
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2011, 04:18:00 AM »
I'm going to sell almost everything i've collected in almost 20 years. I love metal and that's part of the problem - I could listen to in endlessly and endlessly play along to it every night. But it's been isolating me from people I want to be around. So I've been fasting from it along with other things for a lot of months now. And if I have a woman round to the flat, she doesn't want metal CDs in her face. And since there's no reason to have them with MP3s, Youtube etc I'll sell them/give them away to people who are congruent listening to them.

Also, I discovered that one of the reasons I've often listened to this music is to get approval from a parent who hated "modern" music and I thought I could prove (to myself or the parent) that it's as complex, intricate etc as anything they'd listened to.

So thankyou metal, thankyou God, thankyou metalGods (Halford, Dickinson etc) - I'm giving it back to the universe for other souls who can use it.

Amen.

This is strange.  Why would you want to give up something you love, just for the convenience of others?  I actually do see what you are trying to get at, but why the hell would you have to sell everything?  Have you heard of small doses and prioritizing and time management?

The bolded sentence just baffles me.  You sound like my best friend in high school.  he liked metal for a while, but eventually thought it wasn't cool and conformed and just listened to what everyone else was listening to.  At the end of our friendship he kept saying things like "Why do you listen to the metal stuff, girls aren't gonna like you.  How are you going to have a conversation with a girl when she asks what music you like and you say stupid bands like Judas Priest, Halford, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden etc."  I wasn't his friend anymore.

I've actually gotten my girlfriend into metal over the years, there would be no way I would give up my prog/metal for a woman.  Some days, we like to take a break and I spend the day blasting some metal on my own, it's good for us.

Rethink about what you are saying and what makes YOU happy in life because Andy, this is a strange thread.

It doesn't make me happy. I don't find anything innately wrong with the music but my relationship with it. It's not about sharing but retreat - and possibly parental approval/disapproval.

What do you have to prove, and as I said above, anyone who expects you to change your music taste to make them happy is a heartless, selfish, troubled person.

I really don't understand this at all dude.  I'm off to bed, but to sum up my views on this topic;



I hope you can find closure on this nevertheless and make yourself feel more at ease, I guess that's the main thing after all.
Wolfking, the part above about women was not about women in particular it's about having a date or partner coming around and me imposing music I don't listen to much in her face. It's not congruent. Listening to Maiden (for example) for me was about rebelling/seeking approval or isolating myself - as I said my relationship with the music. It's interesting that I liked the later songs they've done, about religion, God, living and dying.

Another example is computer games - i think interactive fiction is the one of the most beautiful, wonderful things every created by man but I can't share this or have never found a way to share this in a way that allows me to interact with people I want to interact with and face to face. So I'm letting it go - for the most part - to other souls who CAN make it work congruently for them.

There's nothing innately wrong in my opinion with interactive fiction or metal and as I say, I hope to check in with them (e.g. emulators, youtube, itunes whatever) from time to time.
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2011, 04:28:12 AM »
Andy,

As others have stated, selling you collection isn't the answer to your situation, which you imply by saying you can listen to mp3s and youtube.  You are who you are, and you are trying to be overaccomidating to others right now.  Over the past several months, I (and likely DTF) have witnessed a great amount of personal growth in you.  You seem like a genuinely more happy person than you were when I first joined the forum nearly 2 years ago.  But in the end, you are still an individual, and a large part of who you are is your past and your interests.  You shouldn't give them up because it seems like the next step in social growth.  Becoming what you think others want you to be makes you less of a person.  Look at all the happily married people on DTF who like the same music you and I do.  Their music choices didn't hold them back.  Your music choices didn't make you an outcast, your inner shell did - and you've been breaking that down and becoming a more well rounded person.  You're a real interesting person and now that you've started putting yourself out there others are seeing it as well, but you have to stay AndyDT...you can't become a doormat for people to walk over and make their everlasting footprint on you.
Thanks a lot for that. But that growth has come ofr a large part from asking what and where i want to be and reading and thinking constantly to find ways to live it. Metal hasn't given me *social* growth (even less, computer games). I'm not saying it can't, of course not. But metal has never been about me sharing which isn't good.

Besides, if  I have CDs around that I don't listen to then it's clutter which uses up attention even if it's the box I see in the cupboard that I never open and doesn't clear space for the new I want to bring in. I have to create that space.
Andy, dude, really think about this for a second.

Any person that would want you to change your taste in music for them is not someone you want to be around.  They will destroy your sense of self rather then help you find it.  Most people will see what you're doing and think you have no respect for yourself whatsoever and avoid you.

There are certain things you do for the sake of fitting in with other people.  You stop picking your nose when you're a little kid, you don't swear loudly in public, and you don't stare at girls whose boobs are sticking out.  This is part of embracing maturity.  But deciding not to listen to music you clearly enjoy on a deep level?  Where did you get this from?

Do you think any licensed therapist would ever tell you to do this?  Do you think anyone who actually loved you would tell you to do this?  I can't imagine you could do either.  So why would you make this decision?
I did realise that I had thought that listening to this music made me wrong and there was no reason for that. But then I realised it wasn't serving me for the most part. The thing i began to like were about living your life or a reference point about values.
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2011, 05:28:20 AM »
Can I buy some stuff?

I don't think you should have to sell it, don't force yourself to it. But if you do, I'm willing to buy

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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2011, 05:45:09 AM »
Well, Andy, obviously you have your mind made up and are not seeking any sort of advice, so I'm not gonna bother saying anything else to you, except, you really think in a very obscure way, no offense.
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2011, 05:48:13 AM »
Andy - While yeah I would certainly agree from experience being too introverted can be unhealthy, not everything has to be for everyone else.  Certain things in life can be primarily for you.
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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2011, 06:58:44 AM »
I think you'll regret selling them later. You can at least hold on to your favorites.

But if you're selling them at a good price, and are willing to ship, I could definitely see myself buying a few.

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Re: Psychobabble topic: I'm selling my metal colleciton
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2011, 07:33:18 AM »
All I'm going to say is that I :heart interactive fiction.  I played lots Infocom text adventure games and absolutely loved them.  Good for working on your problem solving skills and making you think outside the box sometimes.