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Re: Lord of the Rings
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2011, 02:40:50 PM »
Lonestar's favorite clip in the entire Lord Of The Rings trilogy:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7cI5sagPco

That also makes Frodo his least favorite character, for trashing that nice crispy bacon.
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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2011, 04:35:44 PM »
the films were fantastic but the books bored me to tears.
Your words just brought me to tears; the books are the single most godliest things ever written.

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« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2011, 05:52:40 PM »
the films were fantastic but the books bored me to tears. I appreciate the work that went into it and the huge influence it has made on popular culture but it was so dry, like reading a text book.

I didn't care for the books that much the first time I read them either, but the story is good enough I eventually read them a second (and third time) to fully digest them. They get better every time.

The LOTR trilogy is easily my favorite movie of all time. I tend to think of it as one 11 hour long epic, although if you want to get specific Fellowship is still my favorite. The extended cut of Two Towers is nearly as good though. Return of the King actually looked kind of messy last time I watched it, had too much baggage from the previous films to take care of. Still epic as hell though!

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« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2011, 09:19:56 AM »
I think one of the greatest scenes is Boromir proclaiming victory at Osgiliath(?) - it seems amazing that that was left out of the cinema edit!

Also the short scene in the rain before battle at Helm's Deep.

Bernard Hill and Sean Bean were the actors that stood out the most in the whole trilogy for me.

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Re: Lord of the Rings
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2011, 10:07:35 AM »
Do you mean Amon Hen?

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« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2011, 10:12:02 AM »
Do you mean Amon Hen?

No, there's a deleted scene featuring Boromir fighting in Osgiliath.
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« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2011, 11:44:05 AM »
Oh really? I must have missed that one. I don't think the extended edition has that scene in it. *goes to youtube*

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« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2011, 02:25:05 PM »
I can't really remember which movie has it, but it is in one of the extended editions.
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« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2011, 02:51:54 PM »
I'm also pretty sure it's in an extended edition, probably in RotK.

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« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2011, 04:28:39 PM »
Do you mean Amon Hen?
It's been parodied on the internet as him playing a guitar but I thought it was a massively inspiring scene and he meets his brother "finally" (i.e. we see his brother recalling Boromir after the news of his demise I think).

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« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2011, 05:15:30 PM »
I can't really remember which movie has it, but it is in one of the extended editions.
I'm also pretty sure it's in an extended edition, probably in RotK.

Two Tower EE

See the brothers in Osgiliath was good but I think seeing their relationship with their father was even better, especially for Boromir. Denethor was the only character that got screwed in the movies. He's a great tragic figure in the book but in the movie he's just a crazy bastard.

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« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2011, 05:26:50 PM »
Kinda makes me wanna reread the series. There's a trace of a sympathetic character in Boromir in FotR EE, and I can't remember how prescient it was in the books.
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« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2011, 06:18:46 PM »
Denethor was the only character that got screwed in the movies. He's a great tragic figure in the book but in the movie he's just a crazy bastard.

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« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2011, 06:30:52 PM »
The only character that got screwed in the movies? I don't think they portrayed Faramir very well.
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« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2011, 06:40:34 PM »
I thought he was portrayed fairly well, but to be fair, I don't think I've seen the entire EE Trilogy movies; I'm more of a LotR book guy..

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« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2011, 10:37:56 PM »
The only character that got screwed in the movies? I don't think they portrayed Faramir very well.

It is true they made alterations, but I found them more acceptable in the extended cut of Two Towers. To me it was externalizing the desperation of finding some aide for his father than succumbing to the ring's temptation, making his later release of Frodo & co. more nobler, proving himself better than his brother and closer to the spirit of the book. It is still a fairly significant change though that's true.

I think his character still retains the depth of the books though, maybe even given a little more. Denethor just comes off as one dimensional. Maybe an understandable place to trim but disappointing all the same.

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« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2011, 12:30:15 AM »
The only character that got screwed in the movies? I don't think they portrayed Faramir very well.

Yeah, he's the biggest problem I have with the LOTR movies.

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« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2011, 12:37:03 AM »
A few months ago, I watched all three films in the extended version over the course of three weekends. Eleven hours of awesomeness. Loved it.
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Re: Lord of the Rings
« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2020, 02:52:32 AM »
Sean Connery as Gandalf
Nicholas Cage - Aragorn
Kate Winslet - Arwen
Ethan Hawk - Faramir
Lucy Lawless - Galadriel

I feel the vibe in the movies would have been very much diffrent had Peter Jackson got what he first wanted, not to say it would've been bad but just....diffrent.

I love Daniel Day-Lewis respons on why he turned down, that he thought he would be bored on set.  :lol
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« Reply #54 on: September 01, 2020, 11:29:48 AM »
Sean Connery as Gandalf
Nicholas Cage - Aragorn
Kate Winslet - Arwen
Ethan Hawk - Faramir
Lucy Lawless - Galadriel

I feel the vibe in the movies would have been very much diffrent had Peter Jackson got what he first wanted, not to say it would've been bad but just....diffrent.

I love Daniel Day-Lewis respons on why he turned down, that he thought he would be bored on set.  :lol

Now, let me just say that I'm a HUGE fan of Sean Connery, a moderate fan of Nick Cage, and a huge fan of Kate Winslet... but of that list, Kate is the only choice I would prefer over what we got.   Ian McKellan was the perfect Gandalf; he captured that dichotomy between frail unassuming old man, and one of the three most powerful wizards in Middle Earth.   Nick Cage doesn't belong anywhere NEAR Middle Earth with his overacting and "quirky" choices.   Kate Winslet could play anything she wants, and I'd love her dearly, but in place of the entirely, massively overrated Liv Tyler, sure, I'm in.   Wouldn't watch Ethan Hawke in a toothpaste commercial, and indifferent on Lucy Lawless over Cate Blanchett (though I can't imagine the swarthy Lawless playing the wispy Elven role). 

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« Reply #55 on: September 01, 2020, 12:15:52 PM »
Sean Connery as Gandalf?! Can you imagine that movie?

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« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2020, 05:05:11 AM »
Sean Connery as Gandalf?! Can you imagine that movie?

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« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2020, 02:52:46 PM »
Sean Connery as Gandalf?! Can you imagine that movie?

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« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2020, 03:05:59 PM »
Sean Connery as Gandalf
Nicholas Cage - Aragorn
Kate Winslet - Arwen
Ethan Hawk - Faramir
Lucy Lawless - Galadriel

I feel the vibe in the movies would have been very much diffrent had Peter Jackson got what he first wanted, not to say it would've been bad but just....diffrent.

I love Daniel Day-Lewis respons on why he turned down, that he thought he would be bored on set.  :lol

Now, let me just say that I'm a HUGE fan of Sean Connery, a moderate fan of Nick Cage, and a huge fan of Kate Winslet... but of that list, Kate is the only choice I would prefer over what we got.   Ian McKellan was the perfect Gandalf; he captured that dichotomy between frail unassuming old man, and one of the three most powerful wizards in Middle Earth.   Nick Cage doesn't belong anywhere NEAR Middle Earth with his overacting and "quirky" choices.   Kate Winslet could play anything she wants, and I'd love her dearly, but in place of the entirely, massively overrated Liv Tyler, sure, I'm in.   Wouldn't watch Ethan Hawke in a toothpaste commercial, and indifferent on Lucy Lawless over Cate Blanchett (though I can't imagine the swarthy Lawless playing the wispy Elven role).

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I say all of this as someone who never read any of the books.  I agree that McKellen was perfect as Gandalf -- to the point that it's REALLY tough to imagine anyone else playing the character.  I think Connery could have done a great job, and we'd maybe even say HE was perfect.  Cage as Aragorn would have been just hinky.  I like most of the stuff I've seen him in, but wow....  For me, swapping Winslet for Tyler would have been a bit of a whatever.  It's been a while since I've seen any of these movies, but I don't remember Arwen as more than a side character, and Liv Tyler's prominent billing was not at all warranted.  Would Winslet have been better?  Maybe, but it wouldn't have made for a significant change in the movies.  Lucy Lawless as Galadriel?!  Bwahahahaha!!!  Ethan Hawke?  Whatever.  I can't honestly distinguish one Blankomir from another.
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Re: Lord of the Rings
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2022, 02:34:33 PM »
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - Title Announcement

Kind of a pointless trailer in a way but still cool though. I'm ready for this!
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« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2022, 03:09:35 PM »
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - Title Announcement

Kind of a pointless trailer in a way but still cool though. I'm ready for this!

This is...what...a prequel to the original three movies?  Not based on any books?
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« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2022, 03:10:49 PM »
Cool.  I'm probably down for this.
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« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2022, 03:50:43 PM »
I strongly disliked the Peter Jackson movies. I think the original trilogy would have been better served by a series like this though, so I'm at least a little interested to see how this turns out. 
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« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2022, 04:39:29 PM »
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - Title Announcement

Kind of a pointless trailer in a way but still cool though. I'm ready for this!

This is...what...a prequel to the original three movies?  Not based on any books?

If I remember correctly there will be a smidge of original characters and such, but the show is based entirely - again, if I recall properly - on Tolkien's own writings. The show takes place in the Second Age of Middle Earth. The LOTR story takes place at the very end of the Third Age with the War of the Ring.

The Second Age lasted for thousands of years and involves the rise of Numenor, the rise of Sauron in Middle Earth after his first defeat at the hands of Elves and Man, and the creation of the Rings of Power. This show apparently will focus on the period of the rings being made and handed to the various races.

I cannot wait to see how they present Sauron. I am geeking out so freaking hard. I was just looking for more info on this earlier today and am very happy they are finally getting the ball rolling on trailers and such.
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« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2022, 10:30:04 PM »
I strongly disliked the Peter Jackson movies. I think the original trilogy would have been better served by a series like this though, so I'm at least a little interested to see how this turns out. 

Not heavily invested either way, but curious if you could elaborate.
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« Reply #65 on: January 20, 2022, 07:48:52 AM »
I strongly disliked the Peter Jackson movies. I think the original trilogy would have been better served by a series like this though, so I'm at least a little interested to see how this turns out. 

Not heavily invested either way, but curious if you could elaborate.
Me too.

I'm not sure that I have high hopes for this new show, other than as spectacle.  As I understand it, it's not based specifically on any of Tolkein's actual writings, as the LOTR or Hobbit films were.
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« Reply #66 on: January 20, 2022, 07:56:45 AM »
I'm intrigued to see what can be done to create new stories in a LOTR Universe - realizing it's not from the pages of anything Tolkein specifically created.
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« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2022, 07:58:11 AM »
Chris Tolkien, the next most important author/editor of Tolkien's texts, didn't have a hand in the film trilogy and look how good those ended up. Yeah they were based on the actual writings and books, but I think that's a good thing to keep in mind for anyone nervous about the quality or integrity of what's coming with this show. While the show itself might take its own artistic liberties, Tolkien fleshed out enough lore behind Arda and the Ages to give them a massive amount of material to work with. From what I understand some of the Tolkien estate is heavily involved with this and they have plenty of people with extensive knowledge of the lore working on this.

Now that doesn't mean anything if they end up dropping the ball - but I'm optimistic. Granted, Peter Jackson fucked up the Hobbit something fierce imo, so it really could go either way. I'll watch regardless. :corn

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« Reply #68 on: January 20, 2022, 08:09:06 AM »
I strongly disliked the Peter Jackson movies. I think the original trilogy would have been better served by a series like this though, so I'm at least a little interested to see how this turns out. 

Not heavily invested either way, but curious if you could elaborate.

It’s been so long since I’ve seen the movies that I can’t elaborate on the specifics too much. But in general I didn’t care for Jackson’s artistic choices when it came to altering the story to fit into the film length,* a lot of the dialogue that didn’t come from the book, and the overall visual of the films which were heavily colorized and CGI’d and felt something like being in a Thomas Kinkade painting. Really didn’t care for Elijah Wood. There were things that I thought they got right in terms of the general look of the characters, costumes, etc. But a lot of it came off as cheesy to me. I remember really disliking what they did to the Council of Elrond scene, Galadriel when she talks to Frodo about the ring was another part I thought was all wrong. And then a lot of the action was over the top. One that stands out is a scene where Legolas surfs down an oliphaunt’s trunk like Tarzan from the Disney animated film.

*I realize this was necessary, but it’s one reason a TV series might have handled the material better. In general, I think a lot of the story elements and personality of the characters in the books could have been developed more over a lengthy series.
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« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2022, 09:02:01 AM »
20 years ago series weren't so "cool".

If LOTR was never made into a movie, and talks and agreements were reached in this time, DEFINITIVELY it would have been a series and not three movies.
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