Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread

[Logain Ablar]

And, being that we spent so much time ragging on it all week....the elephant in the room is the fact Jaimie swam a quarter mile or so in a really deep river in full Armor without drowning        honestly, I can completely over look it...it is what it is.....

Oh yeah, that too. Did Jaimie even swim it, or did Bronn drag him that whole way? The whole thing was ridiculous, but again, I can let it slide.

  I know. I'm trying not to think too much about it..

Is it me or did they make it feel like Dany is falling for Jon? She certainly had some longing eyes for him and was a tad upset when learning he'd be leaving to go. I guess if twins are shagging then it's no big deal for cousins to marry, right?

I definitely noticed that too. The question is:

Will she find out they are related before or after they start making out and will she even care, since her family loves the incest?

I mentioned this a couple of episodes back - I thought I noticed hints of attraction between them. Not sure where they're going with that story, but if they get together and marry, does that get Jon out of having to bend the knee? 

So, are we past a 'huge' battle between Dany and Cersi....with the foregone conclusion that Jaimie believes in that they simply cannot win? Does the rest of that story line play out as betrayal? Meaning, first Cersi betrays whatever truce or armistice that may be put in place to validate the White Walkers....with her trying to win the war there and turning on everyone with Jaimie then betraying her?

I can totally see this happening, and Jaime dying by Cersei's hand.

[lucky7]

Great episode, so much happening, I need to watch it again.
Arya with Littlefinger, I can't wait until she kills him. What the hell is he up to, I am glad you guys deciphered the note, I could only make out a few words.
While Dany's view of Jon and the Dragon was blocked, I didn't think she looked happy that the Dragon let Jon touch it. But who knows, she did look upset they were parting.
Great group heading out, seriously, how can they beat what they are heading into, apart from Jon's sword, they can't have enough Dragon glass for weapons.
Jamie and Cersei, I would be happy if they were both gone, get on with the other stories. Could it really be his baby, maybe she isn't even pregnant, just wants him close.
If she know Tyrion was there, why didn't she have him captured?
Thrion and Varys were great together, miss them two getting to have their chats.

How many episodes left? Just 2? Then what we have to wait another year!!!!!

[MirrorMask]

I forgot to mention Bronn's retorts to Jaimie after having saved him.

"What you were trying to do?"
"End the war"
"Oh, by killing the queen. Did you notice the dragon between her and you?" 

Also "A dragon doesn't get to kill you, you don't get to kill you, until I get my gold" was wonderful.

About Cersei not getting Tyrion: probably the sheer curiosity of the situation and the desire to teach Jaimie a lesson ("I know everything") was stronger than the temptation to have him seized.

[Phoenix87x]

So...

Did the Magnificent seven happen to bring any dragon glass with them on this little adventure beyond the wall?  (like considering that they just came from the place where they were mining it)

and of course someone already did a wild west themed edit of them, lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZEAMV0rCE

[Shooters1221]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/hbo-game-of-thrones-spoilers-sam-gilly-has-twitter-buzzing/

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

So...

Did the Magnificent seven happen to bring any dragon glass with them on this little adventure beyond the wall?  (like considering that they just came from the place where they were mining it)

and of course someone already did a wild west themed edit of them, lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZEAMV0rCE

That's pretty cool, to bad he didn't use the theme in mention. 

[soupytwist]

I suspect much like the Magnificent Seven not all of them will survive the adventure.  In fact could one of them get zombified then brought back as the proof Cersei needs.

/Fanfic : Hound gets Zombified brought back to Kings Landing and ends up fighting Zombie Mountain.

[Logain Ablar]

/Fanfic : Hound gets Zombified brought back to Kings Landing and ends up fighting Zombie Mountain.

Sign me up for that! 

Seriously though, The Mountain has to get taken out at some stage, and The Hound should be the one to do it.

[MirrorMask]

Now we know from the trailers what was up with Beric's flaming sword, I'm quite sure next episode we'll see a scene of him / them fighting the zombies.

Anyway - what's their exact plan? White Walkers are destroyed upon killing, and wights need to be burned down / destroyed, how do they plan to produce a corpse? hacking some to bits and then putting it back together?

And oh, another thing we all forgot from the episode - Ser Davos inventing Viagra 

[Logain Ablar]

Anyway - what's their exact plan? White Walkers are destroyed upon killing, and wights need to be burned down / destroyed, how do they plan to produce a corpse? hacking some to bits and then putting it back together?

They'll have to capture it, er, "alive", if that's the right word..

[MirrorMask]

Anyway - what's their exact plan? White Walkers are destroyed upon killing, and wights need to be burned down / destroyed, how do they plan to produce a corpse? hacking some to bits and then putting it back together?

They'll have to capture it, er, "alive", if that's the right word..

Now I suddenly imagined a wight in a cage, rattling and making noises, and the Hound telling him in his smartass and nihilist way to shut the hell up.

[Logain Ablar]

Anyway - what's their exact plan? White Walkers are destroyed upon killing, and wights need to be burned down / destroyed, how do they plan to produce a corpse? hacking some to bits and then putting it back together?

They'll have to capture it, er, "alive", if that's the right word..

Now I suddenly imagined a wight in a cage, rattling and making noises, and the Hound telling him in his smartass and nihilist way to shut the hell up.

"I already killed you once, don't make me do it again" 

[soupytwist]

I find it interesting the writers were adamant that there was only 15 episodes worth of story left.  Yet these first 5 seem somewhat rushed - maybe not necessarily rushed as such, it's just very noticeable the pacing has increased compared to the previous seasons, and maybe that's slightly jarring.   From what we have seen so far I think the story these episodes have told so far could easily have been extended to a couple of more episodes.  For example I'd have loved to have seen the interaction between Jon and Ser Jorah as they travelled together, I also think some of the reunions have been grossed over rather quickly.

It's only a minor complaint because frankly it's awesome!

[Chino]

So what's Little Finger got up his sleeve?

[gmillerdrake]

So what's Little Finger got up his sleeve?

He's hoping to drive a wedge between Arya and Sansa....with Sansa then seeking him to confide in so that he'd have her ear and possibly her hand in marriage? But what he doesn't realize is that although Arya may not yet be as slick or cunning as he is when it comes to playing the 'social' game of deception.....she's still pretty crafty and she is going to skip all the shell game crap and just kill him.

[Logain Ablar]

So what's Little Finger got up his sleeve?

He's hoping to drive a wedge between Arya and Sansa....with Sansa then seeking him to confide in so that he'd have her ear and possibly her hand in marriage? But what he doesn't realize is that although Arya may not yet be as slick or cunning as he is when it comes to playing the 'social' game of deception.....she's still pretty crafty and she is going to skip all the shell game crap and just kill him.

I was about to write the exact same thing, but you beat me to it. I think this is it in a nutshell - he's trying to maintain his own influence over Sansa.

Edit: Here's a reminder of the scene from season one when Sansa was made to write the note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bkb6tedTRs&feature=youtu.be

[Grappler]

So what's Little Finger got up his sleeve?

He's hoping to drive a wedge between Arya and Sansa....with Sansa then seeking him to confide in so that he'd have her ear and possibly her hand in marriage? But what he doesn't realize is that although Arya may not yet be as slick or cunning as he is when it comes to playing the 'social' game of deception.....she's still pretty crafty and she is going to skip all the shell game crap and just kill him.

They saw how skilled she was at fighting, but they don't know anything about her training as a Faceless Man.  So if she were to use someone else's face, he'd truly never expect it. 

[lonestar]

Anyway - what's their exact plan? White Walkers are destroyed upon killing, and wights need to be burned down / destroyed, how do they plan to produce a corpse? hacking some to bits and then putting it back together?

They'll have to capture it, er, "alive", if that's the right word..

Now I suddenly imagined a wight in a cage, rattling and making noises, and the Hound telling him in his smartass and nihilist way to shut the hell up.

"I already killed you once, don't make me do it again" 

"Ay, shut the hell up ya frozen cunt..."

[cramx3]

Am I the only one who things the plan at East Watch is dumb?  For one, convincing Cersei seems extremely unlikely (and well, we know, she will betray, but even without them knowing that, it still seems like not worth the effort).  And also, back in season 1 when the night's watch brought the hand of the wight Jon/Ghost killed at the Wall was disregarded by Cersei.  Everyone forgot that sending that hand was useless?  So sending a live one is what's needed?  Shit she has essentially a "white" as her guard 

On the other hand, it does make for good TV to get this gang of dudes all together.

[Chino]

Am I the only one who things the plan at East Watch is dumb?  For one, convincing Cersei seems extremely unlikely (and well, we know, she will betray, but even without them knowing that, it still seems like not worth the effort).  And also, back in season 1 when the night's watch brought the hand of the wight Jon/Ghost killed at the Wall was disregarded by Cersei.  Everyone forgot that sending that hand was useless?  So sending a live one is what's needed?  Shit she has essentially a "white" as her guard 

On the other hand, it does make for good TV to get this gang of dudes all together.

Maybe they aren't going to show her the white on a silver platter. They could let the thing loose inside with her and her men having no way to kill it. She'll see the damage a single one could do, and then realize what an army of thousands could accomplish.

[MirrorMask]

Well, of course it's always difficult to convince other people, but Jon just KNOWS the threat he's real. He's seen them, he's fought them, he's killed them. Providing a wight is, well, proof enough in the mind of someone who knows the truth.

Also Jon could have used the "Why would I lie" argument with Dany - he's going there, he's not bending the knee, he's not trying to kill her, why would he bluff about such a fantastical and mythical thing? in the real world, would someone from North Korea try to convince the USA that the real danger are mermaids, if they would have made that up? also Dany in turn could turn the "Why would I lie" argument back to Cersei, "I have three dragons ready to eat you and the whole royal palace alive, why would I instead ask you to go North to fight zombies?"

[cramx3]

Am I the only one who things the plan at East Watch is dumb?  For one, convincing Cersei seems extremely unlikely (and well, we know, she will betray, but even without them knowing that, it still seems like not worth the effort).  And also, back in season 1 when the night's watch brought the hand of the wight Jon/Ghost killed at the Wall was disregarded by Cersei.  Everyone forgot that sending that hand was useless?  So sending a live one is what's needed?  Shit she has essentially a "white" as her guard 

On the other hand, it does make for good TV to get this gang of dudes all together.

Maybe they aren't going to show her the white on a silver platter. They could let the thing loose inside with her and her men having no way to kill it. She'll see the damage a single one could do, and then realize what an army of thousands could accomplish.

If that's the plan then they might as well just use the dragons and not bother even trying to work with Cersei since it seems the idea is to minimize the killing.

[Phoenix87x]

Am I the only one who things the plan at East Watch is dumb?  For one, convincing Cersei seems extremely unlikely (and well, we know, she will betray, but even without them knowing that, it still seems like not worth the effort).  And also, back in season 1 when the night's watch brought the hand of the wight Jon/Ghost killed at the Wall was disregarded by Cersei.  Everyone forgot that sending that hand was useless?  So sending a live one is what's needed?  Shit she has essentially a "white" as her guard 

On the other hand, it does make for good TV to get this gang of dudes all together.

I definitely think its pretty dumb. They haven't discussed the plan at all whatsoever. They don't seem to have any nets or anything and the whites are usually in packs of hundreds, so I have no idea what they are going to do.

[cramx3]

Am I the only one who things the plan at East Watch is dumb?  For one, convincing Cersei seems extremely unlikely (and well, we know, she will betray, but even without them knowing that, it still seems like not worth the effort).  And also, back in season 1 when the night's watch brought the hand of the wight Jon/Ghost killed at the Wall was disregarded by Cersei.  Everyone forgot that sending that hand was useless?  So sending a live one is what's needed?  Shit she has essentially a "white" as her guard 

On the other hand, it does make for good TV to get this gang of dudes all together.

I definitely think its pretty dumb. They haven't discussed the plan at all whatsoever. They don't seem to have any nets or anything and the whites are usually in packs of hundreds, so I have no idea what they are going to do.

I watched Talk the Thrones and they all agreed it makes no sense either so I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this adventure more as "fan fiction" (that's what they called it).  It doesn't make much sense storyline wise but will make for some great TV.  Also, it may lead to some switch up where most of kind of us felt like the war in Westeros would end before the war against the Night King, but maybe that's not going to be the case. 

Also, while it looks like LF has the upper hand on Arya, I have got to believe she will still have something up her sleeve to one up him, even if it is not this season.  Maybe he works his chaos and get's those two to split off from each other, but I think she will have the upper hand in the end and maybe this gets him added to her list and she does the deed.

Also, in a classic cramx3 move, I was too busy laughing at the maester keeping track of his bowel movements and totally missed the big reveal from Gilly.  It wasn't until reading about it later that I realized I totally missed it.  Which when I brought it up to my gf she was like "yea seriously, you couldn't stop talking about the shit that you caused both of us to miss a huge reveal" 

[lonestar]

[cramx3]

I've definitely seen people with "if my dog doesn't like you, I wont like you" sort of profiles in tinder before and that whole scene sort of reminded me of that, but to the opposite effect. 

Any chance a dragon is following Jon?

[MirrorMask]

While we were debating how a wight could convice Cersei, I think we have missed this, I quote Wikiquote:

Varys: Anything you bring back will be useless unless Cersei grants us an audience and is somehow convinced not to murder us the second we set foot in the capital!
Tyrion: The only one she'll listen to is Jaime. He might listen to me.

So that's the plan. They don't have to convince Cersei, Tyrion has to convince Jaimie and Jaimie will try and make her reason.

[Progmetty]

That last Dragonstone meeting about Cersei doesn't make sense to me. What do they want from her again?! Pledge an armistice? In what world do they think she'd keep a promise and not stab them in the back? If none of them know her, and Varys does, at least Tyrion should have told them she can't be trusted!
Besides, character-wise Cersei shouldn't believe any of this even if she saw a wight, she probably would believe it if she saw a white walker but wights may just as well be magic or something an ambitious maester like Qyburn created. Then the question of even if she believes them, why would she care? She's losing a war and this new unbelievable danger they speak of is threatening to wipe everybody out, it's  much more characteristic of Cersei to let all her enemies die with her than help them get rid of their problem then wait for them to turn around and fight her again.
Maybe Cersei would pretend to believe them and agree to the armistice, then attack them when they go north. That'd be Cersei 101 and it would be pretty weak writing that Tyrion didn't see it coming.

[BlobVanDam]

I think they're putting all of their faith in Jaimie here, rather than Cersei, hoping that she'll listen to him. Cersei's actions on this issue may contribute to creating a divide between them.
It's not the smartest plan, but Jon is fixated on finding a solution to this problem over all else.

[Chino]

I've definitely seen people with "if my dog doesn't like you, I wont like you" sort of profiles in tinder before and that whole scene sort of reminded me of that, but to the opposite effect. 

Any chance a dragon is following Jon?

That would be awesome... and I hope the dragon dies. I really, really, really want to see an ice dragon before this thing is through.

[MirrorMask]

I've seen comparisons made to White Walkers and climate change.

If you knew for sure, absolutely undeniable proof, that the ice calps would melt in 10 years and flood half the world, wouldn't you go to extreme lenghts to make sure the whole world doesn't go apeshit? wouldn't the issues with North Korea, Venezuela and migrants traffic seem so trivial ccompared to half the world slipping under the water? you'd try any desperate move to get people to listen to you, that's what the characters are doing.

I agree that they should mistrust Cersei more, but those who know the threat is real, fully realize that "it doesn't matter what corpse sits on the Iron Throne".

[lonestar]

So it seems HBO Spain fucked up and leaked Ep6, spoilers are showing up, I just accidentally clicked (a really fucking cool) one.


Tread the internet with caution my friends.

[gmillerdrake]

So it seems HBO Spain fucked up and leaked Ep6, spoilers are showing up, I just accidentally clicked (a really fucking cool) one.


Tread the internet with caution my friends.

I used to run to these like a moth to a flame....but I've tamed myself a bit in order to enjoy the experience more.


I remember I read the Episode analysis for each episode of Season 4 of The Walking Dead prior to the season when it was leaked online and I totally regretted it.

[BlobVanDam]

Oh I didn't realize that the episode had popped up on my "usual channels" for watching the show, but I thought it was just the previous episode. Luckily their description was so brief that it still fit the previous episode.
It's a real shame they've had multiple leaks this season. The show is such a big event for fans, and nobody really knows what's going to happen now that it's past the books, so it does potentially ruin the experience a bit.

[lonestar]

It wasn't a webpage though, I avoid that type of shit easily, it was a YT video shared by a FB friend. I thought it was a preview for Ep 6 and clicked it. I'm sure the video will be down in minutes, but wth man, HBO needs to tighten up on their shit.