Game of Thrones (TV, fantasy) Thread

[Prog Snob]

Now to wait for the episode titles.

[Chino]

I just want to see an ice dragon.

[kaos2900]

Predictions for the final 2 seasons?

- I think and John and Dany will share the throne as king and queen
- I think Cersei will be killed by Jamie

[MirrorMask]

Plot wise, the Others must invade Westeros, probably tearing down the Wall in the process.

Dany will at the very least try to conquer King's Landing, and for sure she'll try to find allies, so probably she'll go to Dorne and she may eventually meet Jon.

Probably the foretold prophecy about Cersei will come true, and Jaimie will be both a Kingslayer and a Queenslayer.

Tyrion will drink and know things.

[Chino]

I'm willing to bet Cersei kills Jaimie.

[Prog Snob]

Jon will negotiate a pact with The Others.

[gmillerdrake]

- I think and John and Dany will share the throne as king and queen
- I think Cersei will be killed by Jamie

These two things...

[MirrorMask]

Jon will negotiate a pact with The Others.

That was by far the most intriguing and well thought theory I've ever read, and way more interesting than the happy ending with the rightful heir (s) sitting on the Throne.

[chknptpie]

Dany will at the very least try to conquer King's LandingCasterly Rock, and for sure she'll try to find allies, so probably she'll go to Dorne and she may eventually meet Jon.

[Prog Snob]

Jon will negotiate a pact with The Others.

That was by far the most intriguing and well thought theory I've ever read, and way more interesting than the happy ending with the rightful heir (s) sitting on the Throne.

Some think that is the theory that GRRM was referring to when he said one of the reddit fans correctly guessed the ending.

[cramx3]

Jaime is almost certainly going to kill Cersei at some point.  I'm guessing by season's end, but maybe not until next season. 

Dany and Dorne will work their way north (I assume she would land in Dorne), looks like she is in Dragonstone in the trailer.  Not sure if she will take King's Landing by season's end, but she will be close.

The Others take down the wall and make their way to Winterfell.  I think Jon is going to have some issues with Littlefinger.  I dont think we see a battle or deal yet with the Others.  I think that's the final season. 

Bran tells Jon about him.

[Chino]

I really feel like Jaimie killing Cersei is far too predictable. Nothing in this show has been predictable.

[cramx3]

I really feel like Jaimie killing Cersei is far too predictable. Nothing in this show has been predictable.

Well just as predictable as King Tommen dying.  But Jamie's storyline with Cersei has been brewing for so long.  While I can see a few more twists happening, the plots have been moving in certain directions for awhile now.  To just change things at the end for shock doesn't seem likely.  Same with Jon not dying, the books and all the prophecies would have all been meaningless if he were to just die.  I think this is sort of similar, but on a smaller level. 

[Prog Snob]

Jaime is almost certainly going to kill Cersei at some point.  I'm guessing by season's end, but maybe not until next season. 

I think he'll do it to save his brother from Cersei.

[MirrorMask]

Jaime is almost certainly going to kill Cersei at some point.  I'm guessing by season's end, but maybe not until next season. 

I think he'll do it to save his brother from Cersei.

Last time he offered his opinion on the matter, Jaimie said "He killed my father. If I ever see him again, I'll kill him". Of course that could have been the bitterness and hurting of the moment, and over time he may forgive Tyrion, but I wonder how much he really meant it.

[Prog Snob]

Jaime is almost certainly going to kill Cersei at some point.  I'm guessing by season's end, but maybe not until next season. 

I think he'll do it to save his brother from Cersei.

Last time he offered his opinion on the matter, Jaimie said "He killed my father. If I ever see him again, I'll kill him". Of course that could have been the bitterness and hurting of the moment, and over time he may forgive Tyrion, but I wonder how much he really meant it.

Jaime has changed much since then also. I think he would rather not be responsible for either of his siblings' deaths, but if one went to kill the other I think he would defend the intended victim.

[MirrorMask]

I agree with you... however, for Cersei and Tyrion seeing each other again, that means that Dany should be there as well. Tyrion is Dany's hand now, let's say Dany conquers King's Landing or storms it or even puts a siege on it... why would Tyrion be allowed or would even want to go in front of Cersei? it's a bit too convenient, for a story so bent on avoiding tropes, to have Dany and Tyrion entering the throne room with Cersei and Jaimie waiting for them.

Also, will there even be a throne room to break into? that's the good of the series, we can't even know for sure if there will be a decisive battle for King's Landing, since the White Walkers might as well screw everything and everyone over.

[Prog Snob]

I'm not saying Tyrion's going to voluntarily appear before Cersei. I'm thinking that once she finds out he's back in Westeros she'll send people looking for him. You don't think she'll offer a significant bounty for his head?

[Chino]

This may be a stupid question, but does Dany know that Tyrion and Cersei are siblings?

[Prog Snob]

I'm sure she does. She was raised with the knowledge of her home land. I don't think it specifically says so in the book but one can assume she knows all about the Lannister family, the family that was partially responsible for usurping the throne.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

I really feel like Jaimie killing Cersei is far too predictable. Nothing in this show has been predictable.

Maggy the Frog's prophecy involves Jaime killing Cersei. It's expected, but it's pretty cool to see how everything that was foreseen is slowly happening.

[Prog Snob]

I really feel like Jaimie killing Cersei is far too predictable. Nothing in this show has been predictable.

Maggy the Frog's prophecy involves Jaime killing Cersei. It's expected, but it's pretty cool to see how everything that was foreseen is slowly happening.

Well technically it's uncertain weather it's her "little" brother meaning Tyrion, her younger brother meaning Jaime since he was born moments before her, OR The Hound in a trial by combat.

[MirrorMask]

Didn't read the book but the impression I have from seeing the issue discusses is that for the character Cersei it's obvious that the little brother is Tyrion, but an astute reader won't go over the detail of Jaimie being technically the younger brother and therefore a fitting candidate to the prophecy.

Anyway, I hate prophecies in literature, they rob every character of free will - which, for the record, they don't have, 'cause they're just characters and the autor is writing them, but it's something I'm trying to forget when I'm immersed in reading... so I'm already reading a book that has all the pages printed (or, if you want, watching a movie where all the scenes have been filmed), I'm trying to pretend they're real characters, and in the story you put a plot device that tells how everything is already written no matter what? bleah.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

I really feel like Jaimie killing Cersei is far too predictable. Nothing in this show has been predictable.

Maggy the Frog's prophecy involves Jaime killing Cersei. It's expected, but it's pretty cool to see how everything that was foreseen is slowly happening.

Well technically it's uncertain weather it's her "little" brother meaning Tyrion, her younger brother meaning Jaime since he was born moments before her, OR The Hound in a trial by combat.

True, but I reckon it would make much more sense given that all her children were fathered by Jaime. He gave her children, she watched them all die and the cherry on top is having him being her end. Yeah, it's kinda expected, but it would make so much sense.

Either way, it can't wait to see what happens. It's kinda exciting for us show fans that the events of season 7 will be completely new to both fans of the show and fans of the novels. This is the first time in YEARS that we will get hours of new Westeros content.

[Prog Snob]

I really feel like Jaimie killing Cersei is far too predictable. Nothing in this show has been predictable.

Maggy the Frog's prophecy involves Jaime killing Cersei. It's expected, but it's pretty cool to see how everything that was foreseen is slowly happening.

Well technically it's uncertain weather it's her "little" brother meaning Tyrion, her younger brother meaning Jaime since he was born moments before her, OR The Hound in a trial by combat.

True, but I reckon it would make much more sense given that all her children were fathered by Jaime. He gave her children, she watched them all die and the cherry on top is having him being her end. Yeah, it's kinda expected, but it would make so much sense.

Either way, it can't wait to see what happens. It's kinda exciting for us show fans that the events of season 7 will be completely new to both fans of the show and fans of the novels. This is the first time in YEARS that we will get hours of new Westeros content.

Less than a month to go! 

[kaos2900]

New trailer! Good lord this looks amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mlhnt0jMlg

[Prog Snob]

I was just about to post it.  Damn...it looks glorious.

[Phoenix87x]

Hot damn that good ass trailer. I can't wait 

[faizoff]

Just over 3 weeks to go, seriously can't wait.

[cramx3]

That trailer is intense.  A lot of focus on Littlefinger in that one, I'm thinking he is going to get himself killed this season.  He will cross the Starks and it will be the first time his playing both sides catches up to him.

[kaos2900]

So I was thinking, there are still wars to come. The war for the iron throne and war for humanity against the white walkers. Based on that trailer, I'm wondering if most of this season will be the war for the throne and that we'll see the end of Cersei in the season finale.

[cramx3]

So I was thinking, there are still wars to come. The war for the iron throne and war for humanity against the white walkers. Based on that trailer, I'm wondering if most of this season will be the war for the throne and that we'll see the end of Cersei in the season finale.

That's my guess as well

[gmillerdrake]

So I was thinking, there are still wars to come. The war for the iron throne and war for humanity against the white walkers. Based on that trailer, I'm wondering if most of this season will be the war for the throne and that we'll see the end of Cersei in the season finale.

That's my guess as well

It would seem the timing is set up that way with Dany en route....plus with the previews it's pretty heavily footage of man on man war with a few scenes of white walkers. Plus, ultimately the war between man and the white walkers is really THE war to be concerned about so it'd seem fitting that the final season 'settles' that war while this season settles the more trivial kingdom rulership.

[Prog Snob]

So, who gets to be the lucky person who kills Cersei? Is it Jaime, Tyrion, someone else? It has to be poetic. It can't just be that she is hit by some random arrow. I know the whole Maggie the Frog prophecy but sometimes they shouldn't be taken literal.

[MirrorMask]

It also depends how much George RR Martin thought it was important.

Remember Tyrion's first wife? they introduced her, reminded her, and then said "nah, screw it all" having him killing Tywin over Shae, while in the book he's pissed because he deceived him for years. So the prophecy may be a case where the authors go "meh, whatever", but they're still reminding it with the deaths of her children so who knows.

For sure it makes sense to Jaimie finally snapping and being in the situation of having once again to stop the sitting king from destroying the town, or maybe she'll pull a Hitler and blow up herself on the eve of certain defeat.

About how the final two seasons will go, "Battle for the Iron Throne first and battle for Westeros later" makes sense, but it all seems so nice and tidy. I'd love for some more messing up of the two impending wars, rather than the Iron Throne being nicely conquered and the winners going "mh, ok, now let's think about the White Walkers".