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Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 08:12:15 AM »
HOLY MOTHER OF PEARL



That was amazing, watched the whole video. That's some really awesome technology.  :omg:
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 08:19:31 AM »
Old news.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2011, 08:21:56 AM »
Very very very cool. I hope they can come up with more stuff like this and start implementing it more often.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 08:25:06 AM »
Quote from: Dublagent66 on March 25, 2011, 08:19:31 AM
Old news.

Yeah, I remember when this got posted here last time. A huge argument started because someone said something along the lines of how they think this sort of technology is a waste because it encourages people to screw around when using power tools  :lol



Either way, this video really is great.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 08:39:09 AM »
I don't have audio up here so all I could see was the braking action.  What was the triggering mechanism? 
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 08:41:27 AM »
Havent watched the video in OP (yet), but thought this would be about Heavy Rain
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 08:45:02 AM »
Quote from: El Barto on March 25, 2011, 08:39:09 AM
I don't have audio up here so all I could see was the braking action.  What was the triggering mechanism? 

A sensor on the blade detects when a conductor touches it, which activates the brake,
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 08:52:16 AM »
Quote from: ehra on March 25, 2011, 08:25:06 AM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on March 25, 2011, 08:19:31 AM
Old news.

Yeah, I remember when this got posted here last time. A huge argument started because someone said something along the lines of how they think this sort of technology is a waste because it encourages people to screw around when using power tools  :lol


Well, even professionals screw up once, and this might just be the thing to save their hand. Brilliant invention.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2011, 09:00:06 AM »
Quote from: Sigz on March 25, 2011, 08:45:02 AM
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I don't have audio up here so all I could see was the braking action.  What was the triggering mechanism? 

A sensor on the blade detects when a conductor touches it, which activates the brake,
Makes sense,  but what differentiated the steak from the sausage?  PH difference?  I can't imagine that either one of them would be a good conductor. 
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 09:01:15 AM »
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I don't have audio up here so all I could see was the braking action.  What was the triggering mechanism? 

A sensor on the blade detects when a conductor touches it, which activates the brake,
Makes sense,  but what differentiated the steak from the sausage?  PH difference?  I can't imagine that either one of them would be a good conductor. 

The steak was on a wooden plank, the sausage was being held by the guy.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2011, 09:05:36 AM »
But the majority of times a person lops a finger off it's going to be resting on top of the object being cut.  It still should have detected the steak and shut the blade off for the same reason it did the sausage.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 09:07:25 AM »
I don't think the mechanism was enabled for the steak on the wood, they were just demonstrating that yes, tablesaws do indeed cut through meat.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2011, 09:09:59 AM »
Quote from: El Barto on March 25, 2011, 09:05:36 AM
But the majority of times a person lops a finger off it's going to be resting on top of the object being cut.  It still should have detected the steak and shut the blade off for the same reason it did the sausage.


I'm not positive, but there was nothing grounding the steak. It was just resting on top of the board. When the guy was cutting the hot dog he was actually making contact with it, this would have given it a ground.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2011, 09:26:39 AM »
I thought about that but he was holding the steak in place; he grounded it.  I suspect Sigz's right.  The safety mechanism was disabled for that demonstration.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2011, 09:30:30 AM »
That was seriously amazing.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2011, 09:31:10 AM »
Quote from: El Barto on March 25, 2011, 09:26:39 AM
I thought about that but he was holding the steak in place; he grounded it.  I suspect Sigz's right.  The safety mechanism was disabled for that demonstration.

Yeah, I just rewatched it. I'm guessing it was disabled as well.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2011, 09:48:15 AM »
That's been around for a while now.  Great invention, but I'm not sure how widespread its use is, and I don't know if it can be retrofit onto an existing saw.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2011, 09:50:47 AM »
A guy outfitting his garage with shop equipment isn't going to pop the money for it, but somebody setting up a commercial shop will.  The extra investment will be a lot cheaper than the worker's comp claim and the lawsuit that follows when some dipshit cuts his hand off on your dime.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2011, 10:05:40 AM »
What if you're wearing gloves, will it still work?

Do people even use gloves when they are using a table saw? I don't know.  :lol
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2011, 10:10:57 AM »
I thought this thread was about a trap from Saw V.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2011, 10:13:27 AM »
Quote from: Volk9 on March 25, 2011, 08:41:27 AM
Havent watched the video in OP (yet), but thought this would be about Heavy Rain

I did too was wasn't too disappoint. Was still impressed.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2011, 10:19:14 AM »
Quote from: ZBomber on March 25, 2011, 10:05:40 AM
What if you're wearing gloves, will it still work?

Do people even use gloves when they are using a table saw? I don't know.  :lol
That's a good point.  Occasionally the board you're cutting will bind up and launch.  Having a board rip out of your hands like that can really tear them up.  I'll bet that a lot more injuries occur that way than dismemberment.  Everybody knows not to stick their finger in the blade, but a board launching is unpredictable. 

Personally, I stay the hell away from table saws.  Dangerous business. 
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2011, 10:23:16 AM »
I can deal with table saws. A few months ago I had to cut down 1/8th inch sheet metal with an industrial band saw, including tiny little tabs no more than 1/4 of an inch wide. That was fucking scary.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2011, 10:26:06 AM »
I HATE sharp things and I HATE HATE sharp things that move fast.

Quote from: El Barto on March 25, 2011, 09:26:39 AM
he was holding the steak in place; he grounded it.

Whoops, didn't see that. Only saw (lol) the video once and figured he was pushing the plank of wood.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2011, 10:48:29 AM »
Quote from: ZBomber on March 25, 2011, 10:05:40 AM
What if you're wearing gloves, will it still work?

Do people even use gloves when they are using a table saw? I don't know.  :lol
Well after it tears through the tiny layer of glove, it's still going to make contact with your skin and trip the sensors isn't it?
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2011, 10:59:24 AM »
Quote from: ehra on March 25, 2011, 08:25:06 AM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on March 25, 2011, 08:19:31 AM
Old news.

Yeah, I remember when this got posted here last time. A huge argument started because someone said something along the lines of how they think this sort of technology is a waste because it encourages people to screw around when using power tools  :lol



Either way, this video really is great.

(It's the person you quoted)
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2011, 11:23:21 AM »
The video said the hot dog was wet and salty, increasing its conductivity.  I assume either the meat was below the threshold or the mechanism was turned off.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2011, 11:36:45 AM »
Quote from: Pyroph on March 25, 2011, 10:59:24 AM
Quote from: ehra on March 25, 2011, 08:25:06 AM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on March 25, 2011, 08:19:31 AM
Old news.

Yeah, I remember when this got posted here last time. A huge argument started because someone said something along the lines of how they think this sort of technology is a waste because it encourages people to screw around when using power tools  :lol



Either way, this video really is great.

(It's the person you quoted)

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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2011, 01:39:02 PM »
Quote from: ZBomber on March 25, 2011, 10:05:40 AM
What if you're wearing gloves, will it still work?

Do people even use gloves when they are using a table saw? I don't know.  :lol
You should never wear gloves while using a machine like a table saw, but like someone mentioned above, after it tears through the glove and pulls your hand toward the blade, your finger will eventually touch the blade.  Since your finger is moving into the blade faster because its pulling the glove in, you may end up with a worse injury than otherwise, but i cant imagine it being much worse.  I didnt watch the video posted here, but i have seen the demos with a hot dog, and it barely broke the skin, so anything slightly worse than that isnt too bad.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2011, 01:46:25 PM »
The only time I wear gloves when working with anything is if the materials being worked with are metals.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2011, 02:18:46 PM »
Quote from: Chino on March 25, 2011, 01:46:25 PM
The only time I wear gloves when working with anything is if the materials being worked with are metals.
Guess you haven't worked with much fiberglass. 

Quote from: jasc15 on March 25, 2011, 01:39:02 PM
You should never wear gloves while using a machine like a table saw
What's your rationale?  I can understand something loose-fitting being a greater risk for entanglement, but you gotta be careful with that anyway. 
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2011, 02:26:02 PM »
Quote from: El Barto on March 25, 2011, 02:18:46 PM

Guess you haven't worked with much fiberglass. 


Fiberglass is the one material I really don't have any experience with. I prefer working without gloves as much as possible, but when I am working with metal, it can tend to heat up from time to time.
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Re: Would you be willing to put your finger into a table saw?
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2011, 02:51:57 PM »
Quote from: El Barto on March 25, 2011, 02:18:46 PM
Quote from: jasc15 on March 25, 2011, 01:39:02 PM
You should never wear gloves while using a machine like a table saw
What's your rationale?  I can understand something loose-fitting being a greater risk for entanglement, but you gotta be careful with that anyway.  
I've always been taught not to wear gloves when using rotating machinery.  It can pose the same risk as wearing loose fitting clothing, maybe more so since your hands are more likely to be closer to the workpiece/cutting tool.
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