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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #280 on: July 05, 2016, 02:23:16 PM »
I've already seen some comments on how 'MP SHOULD SING IT GIVEN HE'S BETTER THAN JLB!' in some discussions of this.

Oh, my. I love MP and most of the music he's been involved with but his diehard fans can be quite a handful.

I didn't expect the PSMS versions of the DT tunes to beat the originals (nor I think it was their intention to do so in the first place), but hardcore MP fans never miss a chance of stating something like: 'Better than DT! MP soul & heart of DT 4 ever!'. I'm usually very chill with differing opinions, but that's kinda a soft spot that annoys me to some extent.
It's one of the reasons I left MP's forums. If people think the DT-side forums here are bad, they haven't spent any time at mp.com.  :lol

Yeah, I think I've only been twice over there. I can't hande it lol.

Couple that with the fact that MP will post and have some interesting responses to fans with opinions that conflict with his, it just makes matters worse. Don't get me wrong. I'm still a big fan of MP, but his dedicated presence in social media sometimes works against him.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #281 on: July 05, 2016, 02:44:50 PM »
I've already seen some comments on how 'MP SHOULD SING IT GIVEN HE'S BETTER THAN JLB!' in some discussions of this.

Oh, my. I love MP and most of the music he's been involved with but his diehard fans can be quite a handful.

I didn't expect the PSMS versions of the DT tunes to beat the originals (nor I think it was their intention to do so in the first place), but hardcore MP fans never miss a chance of stating something like: 'Better than DT! MP soul & heart of DT 4 ever!'. I'm usually very chill with differing opinions, but that's kinda a soft spot that annoys me to some extent.
It's one of the reasons I left MP's forums. If people think the DT-side forums here are bad, they haven't spent any time at mp.com.  :lol

Yeah, I think I've only been twice over there. I can't hande it lol.

Couple that with the fact that MP will post and have some interesting responses to fans with opinions that conflict with his, it just makes matters worse. Don't get me wrong. I'm still a big fan of MP, but his dedicated presence in social media sometimes works against him.
Yeah. I get his 'I'm always SINCERE and VOCAL for my fans' approach, but that's not the most intelligent thing you should do if you're a person with a strong mediatic presence, I think.  Remember the first couple of years after he left DT? His DT-related posts were a mess. It wouldn't hurt him having someone that serves as a filter of what to post and what to avoid, with a very subtle: 'hey, you can still be yourself, but a little less of yourself'.
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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #282 on: July 09, 2016, 05:57:26 AM »
Honestly if I had the money, the time, and lived way closer, I would consider going but I'll probably end up not doing so.
Sure, it's the ultimate hanging with MP experience ever, but still, why not making a concert and filming it?
A 3+ hour concert of just MP stuff with guests and that would be very awesome, or maybe he could perform two nights and record both, with each night focusing on different stuff, the first one going on proggy stuff (DT, Transatlantic, etc) and the second one going more metal focused, as well as placing stuff from other projects such as Flying Colors here and there.
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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #283 on: July 14, 2016, 02:33:03 PM »
In case you of you didn't know yet, Mike Portnoy isn't counting on a reunion with DT.  Thanks for the heads up, Blabbermouth!  ::)

Link: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/mike-portnoy-wouldnt-count-on-reunion-with-dream-theater/
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« Reply #284 on: July 14, 2016, 07:27:46 PM »
Nobody hates Blabbermouth more than Mike Portnoy. They always misconstrue his words and take out of context quotes and turn them into headlines.
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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #285 on: July 14, 2016, 07:35:43 PM »
He actually comes off as pretty reasonable in that interview.
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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #286 on: July 14, 2016, 09:14:39 PM »
If Mike said in an interview that Blabbermouth can go fuck themselves, would they write an article about it? :justjen

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« Reply #287 on: July 14, 2016, 09:19:06 PM »
MIKE PORTNOY: Music journalists "can go fuck themselves".
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« Reply #288 on: July 14, 2016, 09:19:58 PM »
Blabbermouth is like the TMZ of the music world.  However, Portnoy says enough inflammatory things to where he's earned that rep, therefore anything that can be used as a headline to garner clicks on their site, will be.  This isn't new. 

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #289 on: July 14, 2016, 09:25:00 PM »
If Mike said in an interview that Blabbermouth can go fuck themselves, would they write an article about it? :justjen

No, they'd turn his words around and say Mike wants to take it in the ass from a blabbermouth.


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« Reply #290 on: July 15, 2016, 06:25:12 AM »
I don't get the hate for blabbermouth. I don't view them as a TMZ but more of a grudge. There is a lot of cool news that you'd never hear anywhere else. They don't comment on the articles just post snippets of interviews. If MP doesn't want to be on blabbermouth then he should stop saying stupid things.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #291 on: July 15, 2016, 09:34:54 AM »
I think the real problem with Blabbermouth is that they're not real interested in the spirit of the conversation.   I've seen too many articles where they piece together interviews from various times to create a misleading impression, even if the actual words are words said by the interviewee. 

Not quite as bad as Howard Stern's crew taking snippets from people's audio books to say things like "I...like... to cup... the... buttocks... of... little boys." but close enough. 

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« Reply #292 on: July 15, 2016, 11:32:22 AM »
I think the real problem with Blabbermouth is that they're not real interested in the spirit of the conversation.   I've seen too many articles where they piece together interviews from various times to create a misleading impression, even if the actual words are words said by the interviewee. 

Not quite as bad as Howard Stern's crew taking snippets from people's audio books to say things like "I...like... to cup... the... buttocks... of... little boys." but close enough.

MP likes to cup the buttocks of little boys?????

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #293 on: July 15, 2016, 11:45:58 AM »
I think the real problem with Blabbermouth is that they're not real interested in the spirit of the conversation.   I've seen too many articles where they piece together interviews from various times to create a misleading impression, even if the actual words are words said by the interviewee. 

Not quite as bad as Howard Stern's crew taking snippets from people's audio books to say things like "I...like... to cup... the... buttocks... of... little boys." but close enough.

MP likes to cup the buttocks of little boys?????

Better tell BM!
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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #294 on: July 15, 2016, 11:47:49 AM »
I think the real problem with Blabbermouth is that they're not real interested in the spirit of the conversation.   I've seen too many articles where they piece together interviews from various times to create a misleading impression, even if the actual words are words said by the interviewee. 

Not quite as bad as Howard Stern's crew taking snippets from people's audio books to say things like "I...like... to cup... the... buttocks... of... little boys." but close enough.

MP likes to cup the buttocks of little boys?????

Better tell BM!
I really don't think Baby Metal would care much, unless you know something about them that I don't.

Well, wouldn't they consider MP to be competition at that point?
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« Reply #295 on: July 15, 2016, 01:03:52 PM »
I hadn't considered it from that perspective.  Thank you for setting me straight. 
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« Reply #296 on: February 11, 2017, 03:00:29 PM »
So, as not to disrupt the chatter about the cruise thing in that thread, I thought this thread would be a better place for this question:

Considering how many albums he has been a part of, if you had to list your favorites in order, say 20, what would they be?  Studio albums, of course.

Off the top of my head..

1. Awake (DT)
2. Images & Words (DT)
3. Scenes from a Memory (DT)
4. Bridge Across Forever (TA)
5. SMPTe (TA)
6. The Whirlwind (TA)
7. Liquid Tension Experiment - s/t (LTE)
8. The Grand Experiment (Neal Morse Band)
9. Liquid Tension Experiment - Volume 2 (LTE)
10. The Similitude of a Dream (Neal Morse Band) (still new, so could still move up)
11. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (DT)
12. One (Neal Morse)
13. ? (Neal Morse)
14. Flying Colors - s/t
15. Falling into Infinity (DT)
16. Testimony Two (Neal Morse)
17. Kaleidoscope (TA)
18. Sola Scriptura (Neal Morse)
19. Momentum (Neal Morse)
20. Second Nature (Flying Colors)

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #297 on: February 11, 2017, 03:10:02 PM »
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« Reply #298 on: February 11, 2017, 03:17:48 PM »
https://youtu.be/4sgzUl11LFQ


https://youtu.be/wrnr-lt7plI

EDIT: Of boy, yeah, MP's backing vocals haven't changed :lol

Good idea posting it here in case no one saw my posting of these two links in the thread dedicated to those performances from MP's Birthday Bash that I posted half an hour ago! :tup

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #299 on: February 11, 2017, 06:18:52 PM »
So, as not to disrupt the chatter about the cruise thing in that thread, I thought this thread would be a better place for this question:

Considering how many albums he has been a part of, if you had to list your favorites in order, say 20, what would they be?  Studio albums, of course.

Off the top of my head..

1. Awake (DT)
2. Images & Words (DT)
3. Scenes from a Memory (DT)
4. Bridge Across Forever (TA)
5. SMPTe (TA)
6. The Whirlwind (TA)

7. Liquid Tension Experiment - s/t (LTE)
8. The Grand Experiment (Neal Morse Band)
9. Liquid Tension Experiment - Volume 2 (LTE)
10. The Similitude of a Dream (Neal Morse Band) (still new, so could still move up)
11. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (DT)
12. One (Neal Morse)
13. ? (Neal Morse)
14. Flying Colors - s/t

15. Falling into Infinity (DT)
16. Testimony Two (Neal Morse)
17. Kaleidoscope (TA)
18. Sola Scriptura (Neal Morse)
19. Momentum (Neal Morse)
20. Second Nature (Flying Colors)


I've literally never heard the bolded albums. Actually I gave Whirlwind and the FC s/t a listen and they were horrible. Especially the FC.
Especially the FC. What an immense fucking waste of talent. And that singer....??
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #300 on: February 11, 2017, 06:20:53 PM »
So you never heard SFAM? :neverusethis:
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« Reply #301 on: February 11, 2017, 06:22:40 PM »
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #302 on: February 11, 2017, 06:26:21 PM »
I'm having deja vu.  :lol
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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #303 on: February 11, 2017, 06:27:01 PM »
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #304 on: February 11, 2017, 06:27:59 PM »
How many times have you seen me type "fixed!"?
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« Reply #305 on: February 11, 2017, 06:38:16 PM »
So, as not to disrupt the chatter about the cruise thing in that thread, I thought this thread would be a better place for this question:

Considering how many albums he has been a part of, if you had to list your favorites in order, say 20, what would they be?  Studio albums, of course.

Off the top of my head..

1. Awake (DT)
2. Images & Words (DT)
3. Scenes from a Memory (DT)
4. Bridge Across Forever (TA)
5. SMPTe (TA)
6. The Whirlwind (TA)
7. Liquid Tension Experiment - s/t (LTE)
8. The Grand Experiment (Neal Morse Band)
9. Liquid Tension Experiment - Volume 2 (LTE)
10. The Similitude of a Dream (Neal Morse Band) (still new, so could still move up)
11. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (DT)
12. One (Neal Morse)
13. ? (Neal Morse)
14. Flying Colors - s/t
15. Falling into Infinity (DT)
16. Testimony Two (Neal Morse)
17. Kaleidoscope (TA)
18. Sola Scriptura (Neal Morse)
19. Momentum (Neal Morse)
20. Second Nature (Flying Colors)

Looks like you got a lot of my favorites in there as well. Almost everything Mike has done with Neal, be it with his solo albums, Transatlantic, or Flying Colors, would be in my Top 20 MP albums of all time. I think you've got them all except Testimony and Lifeline,

I'm not sure how I would rank mine (it would take me awhile to think about it, so I may come back to it later on), but I think I would at least definitely include the first OSI album. I love that one a whole lot, lots of great playing by MP, especially for a small kit, and I love the over-all atmosphere of the album.

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #306 on: February 11, 2017, 06:40:43 PM »
How many times have you seen me type "fixed!"?

You've typed it so many times, you actually know how to spell it! :lol
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« Reply #307 on: February 11, 2017, 06:45:22 PM »
Shhhhiiitt! :lol
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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #308 on: February 12, 2017, 07:57:52 AM »


I've literally never heard the bolded albums. Actually I gave Whirlwind and the FC s/t a listen and they were horrible. Especially the FC.
Especially the FC. What an immense fucking waste of talent. And that singer....??

I may have to smack you for that one. ;)  Casey McPherson is a terrific singer.

I'm not sure how I would rank mine (it would take me awhile to think about it, so I may come back to it later on), but I think I would at least definitely include the first OSI album. I love that one a whole lot, lots of great playing by MP, especially for a small kit, and I love the over-all atmosphere of the album.

That OSI album just missed the cut for me.  I like it a lot, but I don't listen to it that much anymore, so it was hard to include it.  I probably gave FC's Second Nature the nod over it for number 20 based on the recency factor. :lol

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #309 on: February 12, 2017, 08:48:25 AM »

I've literally never heard the bolded albums. Actually I gave Whirlwind and the FC s/t a listen and they were horrible. Especially the FC.
Especially the FC. What an immense fucking waste of talent. And that singer....??

I may have to smack you for that one. ;)  Casey McPherson is a terrible singer.


Fixed.  :biggrin:

Agree with TAc on that one. The singer does nothing for me. Can't get the hype around him (just like with the singer from Haken btw).

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #310 on: February 12, 2017, 08:57:41 AM »
So, as not to disrupt the chatter about the cruise thing in that thread, I thought this thread would be a better place for this question:

Considering how many albums he has been a part of, if you had to list your favorites in order, say 20, what would they be?  Studio albums, of course.

Off the top of my head..

1. Awake (DT)
2. Images & Words (DT)
3. Scenes from a Memory (DT)
4. Bridge Across Forever (TA)
5. SMPTe (TA)
6. The Whirlwind (TA)
7. Liquid Tension Experiment - s/t (LTE)
8. The Grand Experiment (Neal Morse Band)
9. Liquid Tension Experiment - Volume 2 (LTE)
10. The Similitude of a Dream (Neal Morse Band) (still new, so could still move up)
11. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (DT)
12. One (Neal Morse)
13. ? (Neal Morse)
14. Flying Colors - s/t
15. Falling into Infinity (DT)
16. Testimony Two (Neal Morse)
17. Kaleidoscope (TA)
18. Sola Scriptura (Neal Morse)
19. Momentum (Neal Morse)
20. Second Nature (Flying Colors)

Took a crack at this, although I'm admittedly hampered by not being familiar with most of his work on Neal's solo albums. A Change of Seasons would probably be in the top 10 if it wasn't mostly live performances.

1. Scenes from a Memory (DT)
2. Awake (DT)
3. Images & Words (DT)
4. Bridge Across Forever (TA)
5. Liquid Tension Experiment - Volume 2 (LTE)
6. SMPTe (TA)
7. Liquid Tension Experiment - s/t (LTE)
8. The Whirlwind (TA)
9. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (DT)
10. Flying Colors - s/t
11. The Similitude of a Dream (Neal Morse Band)
12. The Winery Dogs - s/t
13. Kaleidoscope (TA)
14. Second Nature (Flying Colors)
15. Sola Scriptura (Neal Morse)
16. Octavarium (DT)
17. Hot Streak (Winery Dogs)
18. ? (Neal Morse)
19. Falling Into Infinity (DT)
20. Black Clouds and Silver Linings (DT)
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« Reply #311 on: February 12, 2017, 06:25:38 PM »
Of all of the full-length LP studio albums that Mike has drummed on as the main/primary drummer, I've listened to 32 of them. Here's how I've ranked them (for now, though this was hastily thrown together, so some albums could shift a place or two on any given day with me):

01. Bridge Across Forever (TA)
02. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence (DT)
03. The Whirlwind (TA)
04. Scenes From A Memory (DT)
05. Images And Words (DT)
06. One (NM)
07. The Grand Experiment (NMB)
08. The Similitude Of A Dream (NMB)
09. Awake (DT)
10. ? (NM)
11. Testimony (NM)
12. Testimony 2 (NM)
13. Liquid Tension Experiment I (LTE)
14. Octavarium (DT)
15. SMPT:e (TA)
16. Flying Colors (FC)
17. Kaleidoscope (TA)
18. Second Nature (FC)
19. Black Clouds & Silver Linings (DT)
20. Office Of Strategic Influence (OSI)
21. Momentum (NM)
22. Train Of Thought (DT)
23. Sola Scriptura (NM)
24. Liquid Tension Experiment II (LTE)
25. Systematic Chaos (DT)
26. A Proggy Christmas (TPWO)
27. The Winery Dogs (TWD)
28. Falling Into Infinity (DT)
29. Free (OSI)
30. Lifeline (NM)
31. When Dream And Day Unite (DT)
32. Omerta (AM)

Albums I Haven't Heard/Owned:
Hot Streak (TWD)
Into The Maelstrom (Bigelf)
Metal Allegiance (Metal Allegiance)
Nightmare (A7X)

Seeing axeman list Hot Streak in their list made me want to seek it out, so I"m going to give it a spin and see if I like it anywhere as much as I did the first Winery Dogs albums. As for the other three I haven't heard, I doubt I ever will as I am not really into the kind of metal that MA does, and I'm not into A7X or Bigelf.

I was tempted to put The Working Man Rush Tribute in there, but Mike only drummed on 6 of the album's tracks, but DAMN is that album some great stuff, especially the renditions of "La Villa Strangiato" and "Jacob's Ladder", which Mike drums on both. Funnily enough, every track with Mike also features Dogs member Billy Sheehan on bass! Go figure! This album might also be the first time Mike drummed on a track with Steve Morse on a studio album (on "La Villa Strangiato"), though I could be wrong about that. Of course, he'd later go on to form Flying Colors with him!

-Marc.
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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #312 on: February 12, 2017, 08:53:52 PM »
My order of the first three Transatlantic albums varies from day to day.  I could see Similitude rising up the number 7 if it holds up well, which I think it well, but he's gonna have a hard time ever topping those first three TA albums and the top 3 DT records (I&W, Awake and Scenes).

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #313 on: April 06, 2017, 07:49:50 AM »
Well it sounds like The Winery Dogs is on hold for a couple of years. I'm okay with that as I much prefer Flying Color and Neal Morse.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/richie-kotzen-on-the-winery-dogs-future-i-dont-foresee-anything-happening-for-a-couple-of-years/

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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #314 on: April 06, 2017, 08:22:50 AM »
I was painting this weekend and I was just putting on music that struck me - some Flying Colors, some Neal Morse, some Transatlantic - and it dawned on me that I could just make a "Portnoy Playlist" and be done with it.  Blackmore is by far my favorite musician and has been since 1982 or so, but I think I probably listen to more "Portnoy" than any musician in my collection (and I have about 1,500 CDs).