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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2010, 09:32:27 AM »
Holy shit.  Was anybody aware of this?
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Three separate tracks from the latest Tool album can be assembled into a different one -- it's like Voltron, only with progressive metal songs instead of progressive metal robots (seriously, those guys had a woman pilot before most airlines). But plenty of bands do multi-part songs, so there's nothing special about it, right?

Well, the difference is that, in this case, you don't get the full song by doing something as mundane as playing one track after the other -- you get it by changing the order and playing them at the same time.

By themselves, the songs seem completely different: "10,000 Days" (11:13) is a long prog-rock number, "Wings for Marie" (6:11) is a quiet song that builds up into a crescendo, and "Viginti Tres" (5:02) is just a bunch of weird noises. 6:11 plus 5:02 adds up to 11:13 -- that's because you're supposed to put "Viginti Tres" and "Wings for Marie" together (in that order) and play them at the same time as "10,000 Days."

Sobriety is optional, but not recommended.

If that sounds too complicated for you, check out this demonstration at YouTube-Doubler. You'll notice that the weird sounds from "Viginti Tres" seem to be in sync with the melody of "10,000 Days." That demonstration doesn't include "Wings for Marie", though, which has the most impressive part: Near the end, the vocals from both songs alternate almost perfectly, forming completely different lyrics.

The band has never acknowledged any of this, but if you listen to the full song it's pretty obvious that they did this intentionally ... which is both mind-blowingly awesome and a little bit insane.


Here's a link with all parts.  Anybody could have done that with ambient noises, but the lyrical content of Wings/10k is fantastic.  Holy shit, these guys are sharp.  Yet another ringing endorsement for hallucinogens. 
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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2010, 10:19:57 AM »
I knew that. It is pretty awesome.

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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2010, 10:26:36 AM »
That is so damn cool. I had no idea, but it kind of makes sense.
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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2010, 11:38:34 AM »
Yeah I heard that before. It's awesome, especially when sobriety isn't in the equation.
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« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2010, 11:47:02 AM »
That sounds awesome! :tup Listening to the link now, pretty cool! I don't think you need to get high to appreciate music though...

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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2010, 02:47:12 PM »
5. VIIIIICARIOUSLY IIIIIIIIIIIIIII

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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2010, 03:00:23 PM »
That's pretty awesome. Tool are batshit insane but it comes through in cool ways.
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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2010, 03:18:31 PM »
Apparently, if you play any Tool album at the same time as watching Inception, your brain will melt.

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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2010, 03:20:42 PM »
Apparently, if you play any Tool album at the same time as watching Inception, your brain will melt.
Actually I heard it makes the eargasms 500x more intense.



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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2010, 03:23:54 PM »
Apparently, if you play any Tool album at the same time as watching Inception, your brain will melt.
Actually I heard it makes the eargasms 500x more intense.



Then your brain melts.

That might be true, I'm not sure. I'm too scared to do it.

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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2010, 03:36:39 PM »
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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2010, 05:33:52 PM »
Holy shit.  Was anybody aware of this?
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Three separate tracks from the latest Tool album can be assembled into a different one -- it's like Voltron, only with progressive metal songs instead of progressive metal robots (seriously, those guys had a woman pilot before most airlines). But plenty of bands do multi-part songs, so there's nothing special about it, right?

Well, the difference is that, in this case, you don't get the full song by doing something as mundane as playing one track after the other -- you get it by changing the order and playing them at the same time.

By themselves, the songs seem completely different: "10,000 Days" (11:13) is a long prog-rock number, "Wings for Marie" (6:11) is a quiet song that builds up into a crescendo, and "Viginti Tres" (5:02) is just a bunch of weird noises. 6:11 plus 5:02 adds up to 11:13 -- that's because you're supposed to put "Viginti Tres" and "Wings for Marie" together (in that order) and play them at the same time as "10,000 Days."

Sobriety is optional, but not recommended.

If that sounds too complicated for you, check out this demonstration at YouTube-Doubler. You'll notice that the weird sounds from "Viginti Tres" seem to be in sync with the melody of "10,000 Days." That demonstration doesn't include "Wings for Marie", though, which has the most impressive part: Near the end, the vocals from both songs alternate almost perfectly, forming completely different lyrics.

The band has never acknowledged any of this, but if you listen to the full song it's pretty obvious that they did this intentionally ... which is both mind-blowingly awesome and a little bit insane.


Here's a link with all parts.  Anybody could have done that with ambient noises, but the lyrical content of Wings/10k is fantastic.  Holy shit, these guys are sharp.  Yet another ringing endorsement for hallucinogens. 

That is amazing.

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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2010, 07:19:58 PM »
I heard that if you actually believe any of the stupid rumours about synching songs and golden gifts or anything then you're a bit of a fanboy because all the examples I've heard sound *terrible*. Especially the "secret" running order of Lateralus, where instead of songs flowing into each other they suddenly cut off, or fade in and then cut to something else.  :facepalm:

And that 10,000 days thing is a MESS. That is all.

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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2010, 07:24:46 PM »
The only downside with Tool is that it takes 5 years to make an album.

That, and they have the single WORST website of any band i've ever seen.

No band news ever - it's always " a friend of Danny is having a barbeque "
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" Adam has been looking at rocks "

They don't even have any mention of their most recent album on the site  :facepalm:

Terrible site.

And 5 years between albums is ridiculous.

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« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2010, 11:39:40 AM »
I love how Tool fuck with their fans like that.  :lol

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« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2010, 11:51:22 AM »
The only downside with Tool is that it takes 5 years to make an album.

That, and they have the single WORST website of any band i've ever seen.

No band news ever - it's always " a friend of Danny is having a barbeque "
or
" Adam has been looking at rocks "

They don't even have any mention of their most recent album on the site  :facepalm:

Terrible site.

And 5 years between albums is ridiculous.
Why is this important in the slightest? I don't think I've ever checked a band's website for news of an upcoming album. When the album comes out, it comes out.

Having said that, I guess this is Tool, the band for which everyone seems to deem it necessary to wait incessantly for even the slightest hint of news about a new album, even though everyone knows that, being Tool, it's gonna take fucking ages and that, being Tool, they're not gonna give you clear information about it anyway.

Seriously, do people just never learn when it comes to this band?

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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2010, 11:58:30 AM »
^Me too its funny at times.

The 10,000 Days mash up is alright though it doesn't seem to be intentional. The lateralus thing on the other hand, is amazing. The way people have done it doesn't make sense yes its fibbonaci but maybe that's the blueprint. 6 and 7 are beginning. Mantra goes in the middle of Ticks and Leeches, Disposition/Reflection/Triad are all connected and need to be one song, Eon Blue is at the end of Reflection
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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2010, 02:09:13 AM »
I'm pretty confused as to how anyone can say it doesn't seem to be intentional.
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is some pretty mad coincidence if it's not intentional.

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« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2010, 08:53:34 AM »
And 5 years between albums is ridiculous.

Honestly, I don't mind that. 4 strong albums > 10 mediocre ones. They can take all the time they want because they've delivered all 4 times. Makes it that much more special when a new album finally comes out. I would hate for every band to operate like Tool does in terms of making new music, but for some reason I like that Tool has a small discography.
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« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2010, 11:38:28 AM »
I'm pretty confused as to how anyone can say it doesn't seem to be intentional.
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the vocals from both songs alternate almost perfectly, forming completely different lyrics
is some pretty mad coincidence if it's not intentional.

That or they made Viginti Tres 5:02 just to make up the time so people would *think* theres a connection  :biggrin:

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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2010, 11:40:45 AM »
Viginiti Tres would have been simple.  They could have just removed various sound effects from the completed version of 10k and called it a song.  Having WfM match up with the last 6 minutes of 10k is a completely different story. 
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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2010, 11:42:58 AM »
I've listened a few times. If it was intentional it certainly sounds bad to my ears. Funnily enough, like two songs playing at once.

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« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2010, 12:12:51 PM »
Listening right now, it sounds damn good to me. I love how the beat's completely changed in the beginning in the second half.
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« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2010, 12:24:55 PM »
I,ve heard it and done both plenty of times, and the Lateralus one is better. 10,000 Days was okay some parts didn't sounded cluttered.
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« Reply #59 on: December 24, 2010, 10:15:44 PM »
Oh my God. I just got a physical copy of 10,000 days recently, and as such I'm giving the album a serious full listen for the first time. Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days just brought me to my knees. So damn amazing.
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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2010, 10:31:29 PM »
GIVE ME MY... GIVE ME MY WIIIIIIIIIIIINGS :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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« Reply #61 on: December 24, 2010, 10:35:07 PM »
I love his delivery of that line. There's so much emotion built up when he repeats "give me my" that you expect the word "wings" to be belted out with full force, but instead it's sung in a surprisingly calm and peaceful way. I was not expecting that at all, but it works perfectly.
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« Reply #62 on: December 24, 2010, 10:43:53 PM »
My favorite part is the Hey ho's. Also, the verse before "your going home"
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Re: THE Tool Thread
« Reply #63 on: January 05, 2011, 08:07:43 AM »
I'm new to these guys and I've got to say they're amazing. I loved Lateralus and today I exercised with Aenima on my Player. Feels good man.

They are working/planning to work on a new album currently, ain't they?

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« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2011, 08:28:29 AM »
The first time I heard that 'GOOOODBYEEE!' I was like 'that's pretty cool.' And then it KEPT GOING for the whole outro and I was like 'Maynard is God.' Aenima is a really, really great exercise album, I've run with it so many times that I visualise the park I run in when I hear it sometimes now.  :lol

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« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2011, 10:02:34 AM »
Don't get TOO excited about reading stuff like "Tool are working on a new album", because normally it takes 5 years from that before you get the album.  :lol

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« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2011, 10:04:02 AM »
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« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2011, 11:50:11 AM »
Don't get TOO excited about reading stuff like "Tool are working on a new album", because normally it takes 5 years from that before you get the album.  :lol
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« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2011, 01:41:49 PM »
Man, it just feels like yesterday when I remember racing down to the shops on the release date of 10,000 Days.  Ah, good times.
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« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2011, 01:42:13 PM »
My friend and I are saving up all our stems to make special tea and drink it before we see Tool... :hat