Again, this has nothing to do with people personally attacking me as that has never happened. This has nothing to do with me crying like a little bitch because someone disagreed with me. This has nothing to do with me being some sheltered little baby who jumps at the slightest hint of the word "no" this is simply about the nature of the debate that happens in thiis forum. Okay... sure, people have different ways of debating and that might be an issue in understanding who and what that nature is based on the person. There are some people who debate like they had an education at Harvard or Oxford and there are people who debate as if they are one short of a sixpack or their favorite football team just lost and now some loser on the internet is going to pay for it. I can understand all that and I can accept the shock of discovering it and overreacting to that shock. It happens and it can happen to the best people on this forum.
What REALLY gets me though is those people who do not feel like contributing to a debate, they only want to shake the hornet's nest, step back and see what happens. They do this by either making snide statements that really do nothing to further a debate and only serve to intimidate. They put words into your mouth to which others will latch onto as if saying, "I know you said this, but in reality this is what you really said" when in reality that's nothing even remotely close to what I said nor can any logical conclusion be made in order for that person to have even made that assumption. Again, it's just one person who might be presenting a counter argument but instead wants to jab you with that counter-argument by either calling you out, or just jabbing you in general to see what you would do. Again, I could be overreacting to what I see. Anything is possible. So now here's the kicker.
If I am overreacting then one would think that this thread should be the prime example. That is, I would think most of the responses would be, "It's not that bad. You're just too senstive. Turn it down a bit." But no, instead people start making negative assumptions about my personality and overall have a very negative attitude about this. Well, shoot... maybe it's because I started it out negative first. Well, that's my fault. Can't escape fault there. But if you are trying to prove this place isn't hostile then why are directing negative comments about my reasons or assumptions on my personality? Sure my personality might have a lot to do with how I take in this place, but tell me please how does a negative reaction in any way suddenly convince me that this place isn't somewhat "hostile"? Now I know you asked for examples and can't remember them all but I will name one I remember off the top of my head: So I answered an opinion of what I felt of homosexuality. the OP asked the question, it was an open discussion, it was a friendly discussion and I felt comfortable in at least giving what I felt was going to be a controversial answer. I knew people were going to disagree but the point of the thread was a discussion and I did my best at keeping to a logical discourse and tried to be as neutral as possibile. Instead, and again, this is from me, what I got was a lot of narcissism and even people placing me into a category I felt was not deserved. For some strange and bizarre reason a belief that homosexuality is unnatural automatically places you as some religious fanatic that should be oppressed. No. That doesn't even come close to what I presented as an argument. If we were to categorize it it would come out like this (homosexuality is unnatural. Only Religious people think homosexuality is unnatural. Therefore, this statement is religious). Wow! This is definitely a logical discourse, can't argue that, but I think many people might point to the legiitmacy of the points.
Now a few people actually bothered to counter with their arguments while others decided to just categorize me just because I said something they vehemently disagreed with. You want to label me sheltered or a pussy? Ah no, that's not me. Actually I'm going to flip that label and state there are some people here who honestly cannot fathom someone who has a diametrically opposed view with them especially when that view has something remotely to do with religion or in the very least they think it has something to do with religion. Who cares if that's the case or not. I could honestly state I believe in polygamy and someone here will go apeshit because they see a religious context in that. And no a belief in polygamy can have nothing to do with religion. You can follow a logical discourse from polygamy to religion but I could follow a logical discourse from polygamy to dogs as well. Some people are choosing a specific path so that they CAN lash out. I don't know why. But that doesn't matter because I'm just a pussy and can't take the heat. So narcissism and someone who basically doesn't like it equates with being a pussy. Interesting... lot's of pussies on this planet then.
So for those who are calling me out I would like to pose this question, "Is it possible for a person who hates religion to have an unbiased, unemotional debate about religion?" I'm not talking about someone who doesn't trust religion. Those are completely different people to those who openly hate and are prejudiced against religious. I'm not pointing my finger at anyone with this question, it's just a question. I ask that question because I have to wonder this whenever I read things here and from certain people there is a vibe where once you are discovered a religious person, there are those who feel it necessary to throw you under the bus whenever they have a chance to do so. And the minute I throw up my hands and call a foul, is the moment I need to be called out some more.
Topic: This part of the forum is quite "hostile" (Read 8435 times)
