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Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« on: September 12, 2010, 12:50:22 PM »
Hi - OK guys, your assistance is required.

I've no really heard much by Avenged Sevenfold......where do I start ?

Look forward to your recommendations
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 12:52:24 PM »
You don't.

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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 01:05:39 PM »
The proper answer to your question is to start with Waking the Fallen, but keep in mind that the style of that album is quite different from the rest of their stuff. But it's still the best place to start because it contains their best songwriting.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 01:32:20 PM »
If you're just going to start with one album I'd reccomend City Of Evil. It's their best in my opinion, and it'll make it easy to transition back into Waking The Fallen and into their later stuff.

If you mean specific songs, Afterlife and Bat Country are a good start. They are singles but they're both good songs, Afterlife is by far the best from self-titled imo.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 01:36:33 PM »
I'll just throw my opinion in here even though I don't like Avenged Sevenfold much... Start with Waking the Fallen because its a fantastic album, and their best by far. The reason why I say that is because I can't stand their newer albums at all.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 01:48:03 PM »
Waking the Fallen or City of Evil, but keep in mind that those 2 albums are VERY different from each other.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 02:28:12 PM »
I have tried, but I failed in liking this band at all. Just not into this autotuned pop-metal stuff. Devin Townsend does it better on Addicted!
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2010, 02:33:31 PM »
Quote from: PixelDream on September 12, 2010, 02:28:12 PM
I have tried, but I failed in liking this band at all. Just not into this autotuned pop-metal stuff. Devin Townsend does it better on Addicted!
...Auto-tuned? So the only song you've heard is Lost?
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2010, 02:33:52 PM »
If you don't like screaming, get City of Evil.

If you do like screaming, get Waking The Fallen.

If you like both, get Waking The Fallen.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2010, 02:46:04 PM »
And if you like good music, get none of them.

That's my last one. I'm done.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2010, 02:51:05 PM »
I haven't heard their older albums, but the self-titled and Nightmare are both gold.
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2010, 02:57:05 PM »
Quote from: 73109 on September 12, 2010, 02:46:04 PM
And if you like good music, get none of them.

That's my last one. I'm done.
You think Metallica is the best band ever so your opinions don't count.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2010, 03:55:19 PM »
Quote from: Zantera on September 12, 2010, 02:51:05 PM
the self-titled and Nightmare are both gold.
This, and City of Evil is also very good.

The first two I can't stand at all.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2010, 09:19:14 PM »
Quote from: AcidRainLTE on September 12, 2010, 02:33:52 PM
If you don't like screaming, get City of Evil.

If you do like screaming, get Waking The Fallen.

If you like both, get Waking The Fallen.
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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2010, 11:54:36 PM »
Quote from: The King in Crimson on September 12, 2010, 09:19:14 PM
Quote from: AcidRainLTE on September 12, 2010, 02:33:52 PM
If you don't like screaming, get City of Evil.

If you do like screaming, get Waking The Fallen.

If you like both, get Waking The Fallen City of Evil.
This.

This.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2010, 03:24:13 AM »
Bat Country and the lead playing in The Beast and the Harlot are what turned me off of this band, besides the shitty vocals.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2010, 03:31:53 AM »
I'd say Nightmare. City of Evil is good, too, but a bit weaker in the vocal department. I haven't heard anything other than those too.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2010, 08:17:11 AM »
Quote from: ariich on September 12, 2010, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: Zantera on September 12, 2010, 02:51:05 PM
the self-titled and Nightmare are both gold.
This, and City of Evil is also very good.

The first two I can't stand at all.

as far as im concerned, waking the fallen is their first album
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2010, 12:40:45 PM »
I see some comments about 'shitty vocals', OK i'm not that familiar with their older albums, so things might have changed for the better, but i do think M.Shadows is one of the better singers in the metal-genre, one of my favorites under that category for sure.
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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2010, 03:01:37 PM »
His clean voice on Waking the Fallen sounded much better than it does now. It has much more power and presence.
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2010, 03:29:56 PM »
Quote from: Zantera on September 13, 2010, 12:40:45 PM
I see some comments about 'shitty vocals', OK i'm not that familiar with their older albums, so things might have changed for the better, but i do think M.Shadows is one of the better singers in the metal-genre, one of my favorites under that category for sure.
I agree entirely. His voice had quite a whiny quality to it on the earlier albums but on the last couple he sounds really and is incredibly versatile. His performance on Tonight the World Dies in particular is just fantastic, almost has a Jorn Lande quality to it.
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2010, 04:45:42 PM »
Quote from: Dimitrius on September 12, 2010, 02:33:31 PM
Quote from: PixelDream on September 12, 2010, 02:28:12 PM
I have tried, but I failed in liking this band at all. Just not into this autotuned pop-metal stuff. Devin Townsend does it better on Addicted!
...Auto-tuned? So the only song you've heard is Lost?

No, almost all of their vocal arrangements have gotten the autotune treatment. It's not unbearable (they're not using it in the Cher or T-Pain way), but with metal music, it just makes it sound to polished and perfect. Adding to that, the production sounds ugly, and I just can't enjoy it. Like the metal genre's equivalent to MacDonalds.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2010, 04:58:10 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2010, 05:07:49 PM »
Quote from: AcidRainLTE on September 12, 2010, 02:57:05 PM
Quote from: 73109 on September 12, 2010, 02:46:04 PM
And if you like good music, get none of them.

That's my last one. I'm done.
You think Metallica is the best band ever so your opinions don't count.
:lol

This.

Although, I don't like A7X. I'll be keeping my eye on this thread though. Might as well give music a chance.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2010, 05:20:38 PM »
Quote from: 73109 on September 12, 2010, 12:52:24 PM
You don't.

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Saw the topic and was going to post this :lol

But yeah, if anything Waking the Fallen is probably the way to go.
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2010, 05:29:40 PM »
Quote from: Dimitrius on September 13, 2010, 03:01:37 PM
His clean voice on Waking the Fallen sounded much better than it does now. It has much more power and presence.
Definitely.
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2010, 05:34:47 PM »
Waking the Fallen almost sounds like a different band compared to the self-titled and Nightmare.
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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2010, 05:39:44 PM »
Quote from: blackngold29 on September 13, 2010, 05:34:47 PM
Waking the Fallen almost sounds like a different band compared to the self-titled and Nightmare.
I know :(
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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2010, 05:56:42 PM »
Quote from: AcidRainLTE on September 13, 2010, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: blackngold29 on September 13, 2010, 05:34:47 PM
Waking the Fallen almost sounds like a different band compared to the self-titled and Nightmare.
I know :(
I don't have City of Evil, how does that fit into the sound? That was their first on a major label... so was that the reason for the sound change?
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2010, 06:09:07 PM »
It just sounds like hard rock really. No screaming on it at all.

Well, they had been planning on changing their sound for a while (I think) but I'm pretty sure M. Shadow's messing up his vocal chords helped the change, if you know what I mean.

Edit:

Taken from a interview I found on Wikipedia:

"When we started working on this record, we said, 'You know what? None of our favorite bands are super extreme, they just write really good melodic songs that are still heavy,"

Apparently, that's why they decided to change their sound

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https://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1503793/20050608/avenged_sevenfold.jhtml
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Re: Avenged Sevenfold - where do I start ?
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2010, 08:48:36 PM »
Quote from: andrewt67 on September 12, 2010, 12:50:22 PM
Hi - OK guys, your assistance is required.

I've no really heard much by Avenged Sevenfold......where do I start ?

Look forward to your recommendations
I recommend ear plugs.
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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2010, 01:34:16 AM »
If they hadn't changed their sound, I'd literally have zero interest in them, so I'm very glad they did.

Regarding the autotune, the only excessive use is on the self-titled (especially in Lost, but it's noticable in some other songs as well). I still don't feel it detracts from the quality of the album though, and it isn't even noticable on any of their other albums.
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2010, 05:41:07 AM »
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2010, 05:46:32 AM »
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