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Honor Thy Father
« on: September 05, 2010, 03:55:07 PM »
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IMO is the worst DT song. Heavy for the sake of heavy, completely forgettable.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 04:02:11 PM »
I enjoy it, but it could use some editing.
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 04:02:41 PM »
If it took out the rap, it would be fine.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2010, 04:04:05 PM »
It's not their best song, but i like it quite a lot.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2010, 04:11:43 PM »
Starting a thread about what you consider to be their worst song seems like a really odd thing to do, but never mind. I really like HTF, solid 9/10 song, probably my 3rd favourite on TOT.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2010, 04:17:34 PM »
It's one of their underrated songs to me.
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2010, 04:37:58 PM »
It's one of their underrated songs to me.
This. People give the LaCake rap too much credit and stop focusing on the rest of the song. It would be better if it didn't have it: sure, but it doesn't make the whole song a piece of crap.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2010, 04:44:37 PM »
I was just watching this on the SCORE DVD earlier. I think it's one of the better songs on Train Of Thought, in the middle tier with "Stream Of Consciousness" and "As I Am", and better than "This Dying Soul" (not by much) and "Endless Sacrifice" (by quite a bit).

I enjoy the used of the changing meter over the simple riff, à la "The Mirror". It's a good tune to  :metal to and has a lot of good ideas in it.

It's certainly not their WORST song, by far, but it's definitely near the bottom of the middle tier of DT songs.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2010, 04:44:44 PM »
If it took out the rap, it would be fine.

That's the whole reason I like it, personally.
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2010, 04:47:40 PM »
One of the best beginnings to any song.



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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2010, 05:05:01 PM »
Starting a thread about what you consider to be their worst song seems like a really odd thing to do, but never mind. I really like HTF, solid 9/10 song, probably my 3rd favourite on TOT.
Well I don't really have a favourite song and probably my top 5 has been debated to death because they are fairly popular songs in the DT community. I have a favourite album (Awake), worst album(SC) and worst song(HTF). HTF ruins my experience of ToT I skip it anytime it's on. The only thing I like about the song are the keyboards and those feel misplaced IMO.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2010, 05:53:08 PM »
I can enjoy it. It's decent at the least. I don't think DT has released anything that I would call 'bad'.







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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2010, 05:55:34 PM »
Very good song.  Probably the 3rd or 4th best song off of ToT.  And better than probably 14 of the 16 songs off the two albums that followed it. 

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2010, 06:01:38 PM »
It would be a great song if they took out the goddamn samples. That section drags on way too long and makes the song lose momentum. Someone's gotta make an edit of the song with the samples taken out.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2010, 06:06:21 PM »
It's a cool song I guess. Nothing terrible about it, some very cool riffs and keyboard riffs. And they didn't go off the deep end with the instrumental section, which is always good.
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2010, 06:19:13 PM »
I like that fact the Mike is angry in his lyrics and so is the song.  The middle section with the samples are a bit a too long.
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2010, 07:38:25 PM »
Its got Steve Vai and Dream Theater in it, how could any song with the Progressive Gods be bad?

Actually its up there with my favorites, honestly, its amazing, the guitar is Epicheavy but written by good composers, The lyrics are sharp and sting to listen to, The Drumming is orgasmic, and the quotation section just wraps it all together in this epic package of epicness.

EDIT: shit, just realized Vai was in Systematic Chaos, my bad.
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2010, 07:39:52 PM »
It has Steve Vai in it? What am I missing?
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2010, 07:43:41 PM »
I don't really like it, but it has nothing to do with the "rap".

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2010, 07:44:32 PM »
It has Steve Vai in it? What am I missing?
Hah, no, sorry, that was Systematic Chaos, I thought Steve Vai was in the Sample section. I screwed up bigtime.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2010, 07:56:51 PM »
It has Steve Vai in it? What am I missing?
Hah, no, sorry, that was Systematic Chaos, I thought Steve Vai was in the Sample section. I screwed up bigtime.

Steve Vai is on Systematic Chaos?

The hell?


Oh, you mean the whole "Oh I'm so sorry, wahhh wahhh" part. Gotcha.
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2010, 08:03:40 PM »
Second best song in TOT.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2010, 08:34:21 PM »
Top thirty, perhaps top twenty song.  Not one of the strongest on Train of Thought.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2010, 08:37:24 PM »

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2010, 08:45:41 PM »
One of the better songs off TOT.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2010, 09:39:08 PM »
It has Steve Vai in it? What am I missing?
Hah, no, sorry, that was Systematic Chaos, I thought Steve Vai was in the Sample section. I screwed up bigtime.

Steve Vai is on Systematic Chaos?

The hell?


Oh, you mean the whole "Oh I'm so sorry, wahhh wahhh" part. Gotcha.
Yeah, the closest thing to DT and Steve Vai teaming up was Smoke on the Water at G3. but that was only Petrucci

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2010, 09:52:33 PM »
It has Steve Vai in it? What am I missing?
Hah, no, sorry, that was Systematic Chaos, I thought Steve Vai was in the Sample section. I screwed up bigtime.

Steve Vai is on Systematic Chaos?

The hell?


Oh, you mean the whole "Oh I'm so sorry, wahhh wahhh" part. Gotcha.
Yeah, the closest thing to DT and Steve Vai teaming up was Smoke on the Water at G3. but that was only Petrucci

No, Steve Vai jammed with them and Dweezil Zappa during Beyond this Life at the Prog Nation show last year in LA.
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2010, 10:14:00 PM »
At the moment I cannot think of anything more awesome than that.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2010, 10:25:56 PM »
probably the most underrated song on the album (and second only to ITNOG for me). That song is like a warehouse for extremely :metal riffs
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2010, 11:22:10 PM »
It's decent. I love the main riff, and I don't really mind the rap part. I absolutely despise the keyboard solo, though.
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2010, 11:54:07 PM »
I enjoy the song, but it isn't one of my favorites

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2010, 04:34:45 AM »
I don't love it...I like it. Much how I like cake.

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2010, 04:51:29 AM »
So, I'm alone of desliking HTF.  :justjen

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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2010, 04:55:38 AM »
It has its highs and lows, I quite enjoy it.

The first two verses are kickass btw.

We're taught unconditional love
That blood is thicker than water
That a parent's world would revolve
Always around their son or their daughter

You pretended I was your own
And even believed that you loved me
But were always threatened by some
Invisible blood line that only you could see
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Re: Honor Thy Father
« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2010, 05:05:28 AM »
Opinions?


IMO is the worst DT song. Heavy for the sake of heavy, completely forgettable.

I love it.  It would probably be in my top 15 DT songs, maybe even top 10.
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