Do you think rock music right now is stagnant?

[splent]

Watching 100 greatest hard rock songs right now, talking about Nirvana changed the scene of rock out of the 80s with the stagnant hair band sound.  Most of new rock that's coming out just either sounds emoish or is trying to sound like Nickelback.  Both are bad in my mind.  It's just stagnant.  We need another Nirvana.  Anyone agree?

[Marvellous G]

I agree. There's probably more music I'm interested in out right now than there ever has been, but it's not being listened to by enough people at all.

[True Death of Life]

I'm not a huge fan of Nirvana, but I don't think that's what you're getting at. I do agree that we need someone to step up and break through all the same, unoriginal crap that every band is "composing".

I was just talking about this today and I said that it seems that Shinedown and Seether may be the only saving graces, and that's not very promising.

[Arcaeus]

I must agree. Similarly to Marvellous G, I believe that there's more better new music now than there has ever been in the past, but there needs to be someone that pushes to the mainstream and shakes things up a bit.

[Sigz]

Don't know, don't care. There's tons of awesome music out there and that number seems to only be growing, so I can't complain.

[zxlkho]

Don't know, don't care. There's tons of awesome music out there and that number seems to only be growing, so I can't complain.

Basically this. The music that I listen to can stay underground and I don't really care. I know it will always be there.

[True Death of Life]

Don't know, don't care. There's tons of awesome music out there and that number seems to only be growing, so I can't complain.

Basically this. The music that I listen to can stay underground and I don't really care. I know it will always be there.

But don't you wish other people knew too?

[Marvellous G]

Don't know, don't care. There's tons of awesome music out there and that number seems to only be growing, so I can't complain.

Basically this. The music that I listen to can stay underground and I don't really care. I know it will always be there.

But don't you wish other people knew too?

Yes, definitely, and I don't see how someone couldn't wish that about music they loved. I'd at least like it to get a little more respect.

[zxlkho]

No. If they want to find this music they can find it themselves... It's not exactly difficult to find.

[Gadough]

With the way the internet has become so prominent, I don't think the "underground" really exists at all anymore. What we label as underground isn't necessarily what would have been called underground just a few decades ago. For example, bands like Porcupine Tree and Riverside could probably be considered underground, but both have rabid and devoted fanbases that cause the bands to do just fine for themselves with little to no mainstream exposure. Thanks in large part to the internet. If you ask me, we need a new term to replace the old and tired-out "underground" because it has basically lost its original meaning.

I know this doesn't answer the question posed in the OP; sorry about that.

[73109]

I'm not a huge fan of Nirvana, but I don't think that's what you're getting at. I do agree that we need someone to step up and break through all the same, unoriginal crap that every band is "composing".

I was just talking about this today and I said that it seems that Shinedown and Seether may be the only saving graces, and that's not very promising.

Seether?

Shine down, yeah, but Seether?

[zxlkho]

For example, bands like Porcupine Tree and Riverside could probably be considered underground, but both have rabid and devoted fanbases that cause the bands to do just fine for themselves with little to no mainstream exposure.

This is what an underground fanbase really is. They don't have any mainstream exposure yet stay alive without most people's knowledge.

Oh, and Seether sucks. Shinedown is good.

[Zook]

If Shinedown and Seether are the only saving graces, Rock music might as well just shrivel up and die now.

[True Death of Life]

If Shinedown and Seether are the only saving graces, Rock music might as well just shrivel up and die now.

My thoughts in less-nicer words.

Don't know, don't care. There's tons of awesome music out there and that number seems to only be growing, so I can't complain.

Basically this. The music that I listen to can stay underground and I don't really care. I know it will always be there.

But don't you wish other people knew too?

Yes, definitely, and I don't see how someone couldn't wish that about music they loved. I'd at least like it to get a little more respect.

^This 100%.  I'm not asking everyone to love my music, but people accepting it would be great.

No. If they want to find this music they can find it themselves... It's not exactly difficult to find.

But what if they would never look it up in the 1st place? I mean, how many peopl do you know that would randomly type "Dream Theater" into Google?

I get what you're saying and maybe I'm exaggerating a little, but not many people are going to get into a band without it being fed to them.

[sneakyblueberry]

I don't think its too bad.  There are still bands making decent mainstream rock.  The two that come to mind after reading the thread title are Kings of Leon and Muse.  Not a huge fan of either of those bands but what I have heard I like enough.

[zxlkho]

But what if they would never look it up in the 1st place? I mean, how many peopl do you know that would randomly type "Dream Theater" into Google?

I get what you're saying and maybe I'm exaggerating a little, but not many people are going to get into a band without it being fed to them.

I think that if someone really wanted to find this underground music, it's not really that hard to find. Most people don't take music seriously, but if they do they will usually find what they are looking for fairly easily.

[Accelerando]

It's a shame Alter Bridge hasn't been mentioned, but Seether has? If rock right now is stagnant, it's because great rock bands like Alter Bridge aren't getting the praise and attention they deserve to have, but bands like Seether (no offense to anyone who likes these guys) are.

[bosk1]

No, I think it's more just that "great" and "Alter Bridge" don't belong in the same sentence.

[zxlkho]

 

Alter Bridge is fantastic.

[Accelerando]

No, I think it's more just that "great" and "Alter Bridge" don't belong in the same sentence.

Them are fightin' words right there, Mr. Bosk

[Arcaeus]

Alter Bridge, Shinedown and Kings of Leon are good as far as mainstream rock goes. It ends there.

[LCArenas]

No, I think it's more just that "great" and "Alter Bridge" don't belong in the same sentence.

I.... I..... I don't even.... wat

[bosk1]

 Yeah, I think they're a good band, actually.  I never saw any reason to be blown away by them, but they are a good band.

[True Death of Life]

But what if they would never look it up in the 1st place? I mean, how many peopl do you know that would randomly type "Dream Theater" into Google?

I get what you're saying and maybe I'm exaggerating a little, but not many people are going to get into a band without it being fed to them.

I think that if someone really wanted to find this underground music, it's not really that hard to find. Most people don't take music seriously, but if they do they will usually find what they are looking for fairly easily.

What I meant was, what if they weren't even looking for it? I mena, when you turn on the radio, you can change the station, but you can't choose what music you'll be exposed to.

[skydivingninja]

The last big mainstream rock revolution to me was back with OK Computer and Kid A earlier last decade.  Before that it was Nirvana.  Now the mainstream rock scene is kind of samey, but underground and lesser-known bands can write great music that may not get huge radio attention, but will amass a sizable fanbase with the help of the Internet.  For example, Vampire Weekend has some of the most musically unique pop/rock tunes out there right now, and they're already pretty popular.  There's a reason DT and PT are becoming more and more popular with mainstream press and sales.

Still, to see another big musical upheaval would be a welcome sight.  There's a quote from Matt Bellamy in a Prog magazine that says "Rock music is one of the most conservative genres right now when it really shouldn't be."

[King Postwhore]

I think because radio has gone by the wayside that we all think like this.  Years ago you found out new music because of radio. Now, because of big buisness, you only hear the same 5 songs from a bands catalog.  The internet is a great source for people to find something new.  BTW, Is there a videostation that plays music only anymore.  Hello MTV and VH1.  Stop with the movies and play concerts dammit.

[MetalManiac666]

To answer the thread title...no.  There is more experimentation going on in rock than there ever has been.  I will agree that you couldn't tell that by just listening to the radio though.

[Fluffy Lothario]

Don't know, don't care. There's tons of awesome music out there, so I can't complain.

This is pretty much how I feel now. There's a decent amount of good rock music around, more than I can keep up with. If most people don't want to listen to it, and radio stations don't want to play it, screw them.

[Ravenheart]

Not even close. There are plenty of amazing modern bands out there write now who are churning out wonderful music. I'd say a good portion of my favorites bands are more modern, though it's doubtful you'll hear any of them on a top 40 radio station.

Personally, I think Nirvana sucks, so I couldn't care less if no band ever tries to come along and replicate them. As for Seether.... seriously? Uh, ok.

As for good mainstream bands, I think Muse and Radiohead are certainly worthy of that title. You could argue that Megadeth are more or less mainstream, considering their last 3 albums alone have broken into the top 10 on the billboard charts. They still sound as good as ever to me. Hell, "Black Clouds & Silver Linings" debuted at number 5 or 6 on the billboard 200.

There are lots of great bands out there; you just need to look beyond what's being played on the radio and at dance clubs.

[Fluffy Lothario]

Personally, I think Nirvana sucks, so I couldn't care less if no band ever tries to come along and replicate them.

No-one is saying someone should.

[King Postwhore]

Where they debut isn't proof of mainstream. Staying on the chart for many, many weeks does.  Which still doesn't mater if it's good or not, just that it's popular.

[skydivingninja]

I don't think its too bad.  There are still bands making decent mainstream rock.  The two that come to mind after reading the thread title are Kings of Leon and Muse.  Not a huge fan of either of those bands but what I have heard I like enough.

Agreed on both.  KoL is what more modern rock should sound like.  Alter Bridge is awesome too.  Shinedown is good, but nothing that blows me away.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Also, :



That's all I have to say about today's music.

[True Death of Life]

[Gorille85]

Don't know, don't care. There's tons of awesome music out there and that number seems to only be growing, so I can't complain.