Gildenlow

[bosk1]

Not really a fan of his stuff, and not overly familiar other than sampling a few things here and there.  I thought he did a fastastic job filling in on the last two TA tours.  I also got to meet him briefly after the TA show in Downey.  He seemed really humble and down to earth, but also shy and introverted.  Not sure if that's truly his personality, or if it was more of a language barrier issue.  What prompted the thread is just that I was remembering he was asked to sing some leads at some of the TA shows in Europe and declined.  Anyone have any thoughts as to why?  Interesting to me to see how TA has kind of evolved.  I think it was easy to see Neal as kind of the lead guy early on since he did all the vocals and seemed to be the band's spokesperson and was at the forefront of it all.  On Bridge, there was more a shift to let the other members become more prominently visible, and that trend continued on Whirlwind.  Any one of those guys could easily hog the spotlight if they chose, but they all seem eager to share, even to the point of listing Gildenlow as a member on all the tour merchandise.  I think it would have been really cool to have him take over some lead duties, especially for the live release.  I just don't know why he didn't.  Any thoughts?

[FinkPloyd]

Who is Gildenlow?

[AwakeFromOctavarium]

He was? Damn, I'd love to see him nail some of the leads in TA.

[ariich]

Dunno about the rest of the European tour, but at the London show he definitely sang one lead line. If he was offered more than that but declined, it might be because it's not his band and he doesn't want to appear to be butting in too much.

People think of him as arrogant and pretentious for some reason, but everything I've seen of him (apart from his hatred of the Bush administration, which let's be fair he was hardly alone in) indicates he's a pretty nice guy.

[Gorille85]

Dunno about the rest of the European tour, but at the London show he definitely sang one lead line. If he was offered more than that but declined, it might be because it's not his band and he doesn't want to appear to be butting in too much.

People think of him as arrogant and pretentious for some reason, but everything I've seen of him (apart from his hatred of the Bush administration, which let's be fair he was hardly alone in) indicates he's a pretty nice guy.

Exactly this.

[In The Name Of Rudess]

People think of him as arrogant and pretentious for some reason, but everything I've seen of him (apart from his hatred of the Bush administration, which let's be fair he was hardly alone in) indicates he's a pretty nice guy.

He has said some stuff about other bands that wasn't very nice. I think it was Amon Amarth. He said that bands like them are the downfall of music of something like that.

The reason most people think he's pretentious is probably the fact that he created BE, which most people find very pretentious. I'm not sure why, regarding the amount of research DG put into it. It's also very easy to label someone who's just very good at things as arrogant.

EDIT: Oh, and he also said something along the lines of "Our music is good, you guys just don't get it" when they lost the song festival. I think he was right, but his statement could be labeled as arrogant.

[Arcaeus]

It's also very easy to label someone who's just very good at things as arrogant.

Yep. He's very confident, but it's not unfounded.

But yeah, it was Amon Amarth he was badmouthing. Something along the lines of "people listen to Amon Amarth and vote for Bush, this is what's wrong with humanity". I think people took it a bit too seriously/blew it out of proportion, and it's not like people here don't say the same thing about pop music daily.

[Dr. DTVT]

Maybe he didn't sing because his voice wasn't 100%.  Maybe he had previous engagements for a couple of shows in Europe and couldn't participate.  Pure speculation, but I would venture that a pragmatic reason is more likely than the "he didn't want to seem pretentious / butting in" scenario.

[Gorille85]

Maybe he didn't sing because his voice wasn't 100%.  Maybe he had previous engagements for a couple of shows in Europe and couldn't participate.  Pure speculation, but I would venture that a pragmatic reason is more likely than the "he didn't want to seem pretentious / butting in" scenario.

I don't think so. In interviews concerning Transatlantic he always seems humble and respectful.

[TheVoxyn]

Gildenlöw is pretty much the best them.

[Arcaeus]

Gildenlöw is pretty much the best them.

[ariich]

It's also very easy to label someone who's just very good at things as arrogant.

Yep. He's very confident, but it's not unfounded.

But yeah, it was Amon Amarth he was badmouthing. Something along the lines of "people listen to Amon Amarth and vote for Bush, this is what's wrong with humanity". I think people took it a bit too seriously/blew it out of proportion, and it's not like people here don't say the same thing about pop music daily.

That was it? I would bet good money on the people who call him arrogant for that say considerably worse things about bands they dislike.

[Arcaeus]

Gildenlow also frequently states Pain of Salvation's music to be better than most out there today.

And while arrogant I completely agree so it doesn't bother me

[ariich]

Where does he do this? I've never seen or heard an interview/chat/whatever where he has said it.

[Arcaeus]

I don't have any links, but if I come across them again I'll send them to you. Sometime before Be came out there was an interview where someone asked what his least favorite of his own albums was, and his answer was something along the lines of "Probably OHBTCL, it just doesn't seem as unique as the others. Not to say it's bad, it's still better than most music today", and another video I saw on YouTube promoting Scarsick before it came out where he said the same thing.

Of course I'm fairly certain those answers were tongue in cheek, but it won't stop people who don't like Gildenlow from making a huge deal out of it anyway

[Adami]

Where does he do this? I've never seen or heard an interview/chat/whatever where he has said it.

During sex.

[ariich]

Of course I'm fairly certain those answers were tongue in cheek, but it won't stop people who don't like Gildenlow from making a huge deal out of it anyway

That's my impression as well.

Where does he do this? I've never seen or heard an interview/chat/whatever where he has said it.

During sex.

Damn, I knew I shouldn't have passed up that opportunity.

[faemir]

The video where he talks about Scarsick being TPE2 and he says its the best album ever (or along those lines) made me laugh.

[Adami]

The video where he talks about Scarsick being TPE2 and he says its the best album ever (or along those lines) made me laugh.

Maybe he said it was their best album ever? Still wrong, but more understandable.

[Arcaeus]

Yeah, he has said Scarsick is his favorite of POS's albums.