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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1225 on: September 17, 2011, 12:54:44 PM »
Well, it depends which PoS you like already, but I think TPE and Remedy Lane are awesome starters...

There is not a better back-to-back double in prog history than the TPE and RL.

Both are ridiculously good albums. And I find it very, very hard to seperate the two.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1226 on: September 17, 2011, 01:19:52 PM »
RL hasn't aged as well as I would have liked.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1227 on: September 17, 2011, 02:50:28 PM »
RL never really clicked as much as TPE did for me, RL does have A Trace of Blood and Beyond the Pale, but I think TPE as a whole is much better, and has more wow-songs.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1228 on: September 17, 2011, 03:26:25 PM »
RL is one of my least favorites of theirs.  There's a few too many weak tracks on it compared to the consistency of some of their others.  I know there's a lot of negative energy towards it here, but Scarsick is an album where I find it very difficult to pick a clear weaker track or a favorite.  Same goes for TPE, and even BE, to an extent.  That's probably what makes those three my favorites. 

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1229 on: September 17, 2011, 03:29:54 PM »
I couldn't really get into Scarsick to be honest, I do love Flame to the Moth, the title-track and America, but the rest doesn't do much for me sadly.
I'm not suggesting that it's bad, but just nothing that clicked really. :/

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1230 on: September 17, 2011, 03:32:52 PM »
Well, for me it was a huge grower.  When it first leaked I wasn't wild about it, I might have even disliked it a bit.  It took a while.  I'm not saying people who don't like it haven't tried it enough, but just keep that mind. 

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1231 on: September 17, 2011, 03:55:11 PM »
I couldn't really get into Scarsick to be honest, I do love Flame to the Moth, the title-track and America, but the rest doesn't do much for me sadly.
I'm not suggesting that it's bad, but just nothing that clicked really. :/
It took a while, but I eventually found that the second half of Scarsick is pretty great. Really great actually.

It's unfortunate that, aside from the title-track (and Disco Queen, but I know lots of people hate that song) I really, actively dislike the first half.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1232 on: September 17, 2011, 04:03:40 PM »
RL is every bit as good as TPE. Every bit.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1233 on: September 17, 2011, 04:12:40 PM »
Time for album-rankings, because why not?

1. The Perfect Element
2. Entropia
3. BE
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4. Remedy Lane
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5. One Hour by the Concrete Lake
6. Road Salt One
7. Scarsick (sorry Seth!)

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1234 on: September 17, 2011, 04:21:07 PM »
Road Salt 2
Scarsick
Remedy Lane
The Perfect Element
Road Salt 1
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Entropia
One Hour by the Concrete Lake
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1235 on: September 17, 2011, 04:22:08 PM »
Oh Nick you and your BE-hatin.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1236 on: September 17, 2011, 04:26:35 PM »
Scarsick
BE
Road Salt Two
TPE
Road Salt One
Entropia
Remedy Lane
OHBTCL

...not fully comfortable with placing RS2 in the ranking yet, but I did anyway. 

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1237 on: September 17, 2011, 04:43:34 PM »
Remedy Lane
The Perfect Element
Entropia
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Road Salt One
Scarsick
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1238 on: September 17, 2011, 04:51:49 PM »
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1240 on: September 17, 2011, 09:57:29 PM »
TPE
Remedy Lane
Entropia
OHBTCL
Scarsick
Road Salt One
BE

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1241 on: September 17, 2011, 10:04:18 PM »
You all have no taste. BE = :Fronkensteen: .

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1242 on: September 17, 2011, 10:31:30 PM »
You all have no taste. BE = :Fronkensteen: .
It's both silly and boring.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1243 on: September 17, 2011, 10:32:37 PM »
You all have no taste. BE = :Fronkensteen: .
It's both silly and boring.
No and double no. It's one of my top 15 albums ever.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1244 on: September 17, 2011, 10:33:01 PM »
BE (Live version) is about as good as Entropia and Remedy Lane, not as good as TPE, better than OHBTCL and WAYYYYYYYYYYY better than Scarsick or Road Salt 1.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1245 on: September 18, 2011, 04:16:33 AM »
Road Salt 2 is pretty high for me. But I also really enjoyed the first...

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1246 on: September 18, 2011, 11:16:15 AM »
Be
The Perfect Element
Road Salt 1
(12:5)
Remedy Lane
Scarsick = Entropia
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1247 on: September 18, 2011, 01:44:47 PM »
Road Salt 2 is pretty high for me.

I am confused.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1248 on: September 18, 2011, 06:22:44 PM »
Road Salt 2 is pretty high for me.

I am confused.

Maybe it already leaked. I'm not sure. I've no desire to check it out. I wasn't a fan of Road Salt One or or Scarsick.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1249 on: September 20, 2011, 10:49:05 AM »
Just picked up Entropia and Scarsick. I am very excited.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1250 on: September 20, 2011, 10:51:14 AM »
Just picked up Entropia and Scarsick. I am very excited.

Entropia is one of their best albums IMO, just an amazing experience.  :)

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1251 on: September 20, 2011, 02:03:35 PM »
I'm still not a fan of One Hour of Entropia's production, it really puts me off listening to them. I much prefer the live versions of the songs.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1252 on: September 20, 2011, 02:11:15 PM »
Road Salt 2 is pretty high for me.

I am confused.
I have it (promo copy) and it's fucking awesome.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1254 on: September 20, 2011, 02:20:12 PM »
I'm still not a fan of One Hour of Entropia's production, it really puts me off listening to them. I much prefer the live versions of the songs.

I don't quite get the complaint about the production on One Hour.
In some ways I can think that it sounds a bit flat, but on the other hand, I don't think it's a problem really.

Oh well.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1255 on: September 20, 2011, 03:32:45 PM »
Yeah I agree, I have never had a problem with the production on One Hour either.  I really don't see how it could detract from the listening experience of the album.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1256 on: September 20, 2011, 03:41:00 PM »
I'm still not a fan of One Hour of Entropia's production, it really puts me off listening to them. I much prefer the live versions of the songs.

I don't quite get the complaint about the production on One Hour.
In some ways I can think that it sounds a bit flat, but on the other hand, I don't think it's a problem really.

Oh well.

It just sounds...wrong. It's distracting and makes the music far less enjoyable than it should be.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1257 on: September 20, 2011, 06:25:27 PM »
PoS have never had "great" production. My main issue with the One Hour are the kick drums, and at times the Keys sound too thin.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1258 on: September 20, 2011, 06:35:29 PM »
I think that the production has improved exponentially since Daniel took over.  In particular, I love the sound of Scarsick.  Really nicely mixed album, and the guitar sounds are perfect.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)
« Reply #1259 on: September 20, 2011, 06:37:46 PM »
I think that the production has improved exponentially since Daniel took over.  In particular, I love the sound of Scarsick.  Really nicely mixed album, and the guitar sounds are perfect.

Really? I thought the guitar sounds awful on Scarsick. Not so much the tone, but it's just soooooooooooo thin. The drums finally sounded good, but the guitars sounded like awful cheap plug ins. They need to stop using Line 6 and use real amps.


RS1 has awful production as well. In fact the only album who's production I think perfectly suits the style is The Perfect Element.
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