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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #245 on: December 13, 2010, 10:48:34 AM »
Scarsick is great I love Disco Queen and Enter Rain and Cribcaged and Spitfall... Fuck it. The whole album is great.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #246 on: December 20, 2010, 01:56:11 PM »
http://top2010.roadrunnerrecords.com/2010/mikael-akerfeldt/

Mikael Akerfeldt seemed to like Road Salt a lot. 


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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #247 on: December 20, 2010, 01:58:59 PM »
Now this is something I wouldn't expect.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #248 on: December 20, 2010, 02:00:41 PM »
Why not? Steven Wilson said he liked it a lot as well.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #249 on: December 20, 2010, 02:04:54 PM »
I don't know... just knowing Mikael I find it kind of surprising. The same way I would be very surprised if Daniel liked Watershed for example.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #250 on: December 20, 2010, 03:38:08 PM »
qRoad Salt One and Scarsick are great albums. America is a fun song along with Disco Queen. Sleeping Under The Stars is pretty cool and would be fun if they could pull it off live.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #251 on: December 20, 2010, 03:42:34 PM »
I don't know... just knowing Mikael I find it kind of surprising. The same way I would be very surprised if Daniel liked Watershed for example.

mmm... I've heard the two are good friends with a mutual respect for each other's music.  I think I read somewhere that Daniel liked Opeth as well as Mikael like Pain of Salvation. 

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #252 on: December 20, 2010, 03:54:22 PM »
Interesting, wasn't aware of it. All I remember there was an interview where he was asked about Swedish extreme metal like Opeth and Meshuggah, and he said something like technical metal doesn't fascinate him because he can figure out the rhythm quite easily, and said nothing about Opeth altogether. I've always understood it as basically "meh", but then I guess I misunderstood it. Mikael on the other hand was asked about them in Metal Hammer here and he just said they asked PoS once to tour with them.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #253 on: December 21, 2010, 02:17:48 AM »
Just dropped in to say that Beyond the pale is > all other pos songs  ;)

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #254 on: December 21, 2010, 02:54:33 AM »
Just dropped in to say that Beyond the pale is > all other pos songs  ;)

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #255 on: December 21, 2010, 06:59:26 AM »
Just dropped in to say that Beyond the pale is > all other pos songs  ;)

It's always in my top 3. And I mean always.

Top 3 would bounce between The Perfect Element, Beyond The Pale and A Trace of Blood
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #256 on: December 21, 2010, 10:51:51 AM »
No

Definitely this.  It's probably not even a top ten for me.  It's good, though. 

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #257 on: December 21, 2010, 12:41:39 PM »
Just dropped in to say that The Perfect Element is > all other pos songs  ;)

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #258 on: December 21, 2010, 12:59:11 PM »
Just dropped in to say that Beyond the pale is > all other pos songs  ;)
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #259 on: December 21, 2010, 05:13:58 PM »
Just dropped in to say that Beyond the pale is > all other pos songs  ;)

No.
Not even top 3 on RL, sorry (A Trace of Blood, Undertow, Fandango, Rope Ends). It's a great song, but definitely not that great.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #260 on: December 21, 2010, 05:16:41 PM »
Just dropped in to say that Beyond the pale is > all other pos songs  ;)

No.
Not even top 3 on RL, sorry (A Trace of Blood, Undertow, Fandango, Rope Ends). It's a great song, but definitely not that great.

It's better than Fandango and A Trace of Blood.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #261 on: December 21, 2010, 05:20:05 PM »
No. Fandango is amazing because of how unusual it is. It's a song that seems to me like it's ripping most rock/metal traditions to shreds and resulting in something totally unusual in terms of... basically everything. And it's amazingly catchy in the process. A Trace of Blood on the other hand... well, the emotion in the song is just incredible. I needed time to appreciate it, but when I did, it's competing even with Undertow. And the last words of the song... I can't even describe the feeling.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #262 on: December 21, 2010, 05:21:24 PM »
No. Fandango is amazing because of how unusual it is. It's a song that seems to me like it's ripping most rock/metal traditions to shreds and resulting in something totally unusual in terms of... basically everything. And it's amazingly catchy in the process. A Trace of Blood on the other hand... well, the emotion in the song is just incredible. I needed time to appreciate it, but when I did, it's competing even with Undertow. And the last words of the song... I can't even describe the feeling.

The chorus to Fandango just ruins it for me. It just loses any sense of groove when it forces an odd time signature for no reason.



Granted the chorus to BTP isn't amazing either, but it's far from the annoyingness that is the Fandango chorus.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #263 on: December 21, 2010, 05:24:14 PM »
You mean the "all his/her life..." chorus? It's actually my favourite part of the song.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #264 on: December 21, 2010, 05:25:57 PM »
You mean the "all his/her life..." chorus? It's actually my favourite part of the song.

huh? No, I mean the "Live that you might find the answers...." part.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #265 on: December 21, 2010, 05:28:02 PM »
Ah, right. Actually, either would work as chorus. :P I also like it because of how unexpected it is. It just appears out of nowhere, while also not being out of place.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #266 on: December 21, 2010, 05:31:32 PM »
Ah, right. Actually, either would work as chorus. :P I also like it because of how unexpected it is. It just appears out of nowhere, while also not being out of place.

The time signature is out of place. It sounds weird and not in a good way. It seems like it should have been 4/4 but was forced into an odd time for the sake of it.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #267 on: December 21, 2010, 05:43:35 PM »
The only reason that chorus sounds weird at all is because of the drums. It sounds fine later when he's just singing it with the piano line.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #268 on: December 21, 2010, 05:44:30 PM »
The only reason that chorus sounds weird at all is because of the drums. It sounds fine later when he's just singing it with the piano line.

True, the drums just emphasize the time signature though.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #269 on: December 21, 2010, 11:55:31 PM »
I love the chorus of "Fandango."  The weird time signature doesn't bother me at all; in fact, it's part of the appeal.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #270 on: December 21, 2010, 11:57:32 PM »
I love the chorus of "Fandango."  The weird time signature doesn't bother me at all; in fact, it's part of the appeal.

Fair enough, can't stand it myself.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #271 on: December 22, 2010, 12:08:13 AM »
I love the chorus of "Fandango."  The weird time signature doesn't bother me at all; in fact, it's part of the appeal.
Fair enough, can't stand it myself.
I mean, I totally get what you're talking about.  Every time I hear that chorus I think to myself: "such a strange rhythm" -- but it's never bothered me.  I've always thought it was cool.  However, I could see something like that taking you out of the song in a way, which I'm guessing is what happens for you.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #272 on: December 22, 2010, 12:41:18 AM »
Just dropped in to say that Beyond the pale is > all other pos songs  ;)

No.
Not even top 3 on RL, sorry (A Trace of Blood, Undertow, Fandango, Rope Ends). It's a great song, but definitely not that great.

It's better than Fandango and A Trace of Blood.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #273 on: December 22, 2010, 06:20:24 AM »
I love the chorus of "Fandango."  The weird time signature doesn't bother me at all; in fact, it's part of the appeal.
Fair enough, can't stand it myself.
I mean, I totally get what you're talking about.  Every time I hear that chorus I think to myself: "such a strange rhythm" -- but it's never bothered me.  I've always thought it was cool.  However, I could see something like that taking you out of the song in a way, which I'm guessing is what happens for you.

I'm pretty undecided on that chorus, sometimes I really like it, other times it just annoys me.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #274 on: December 22, 2010, 06:41:46 AM »
The only reason that chorus sounds weird at all is because of the drums. It sounds fine later when he's just singing it with the piano line.

True, the drums just emphasize the time signature though.
Actually, the entire song, including that section, is in 5/4, that doesn't change. It's the underlying rhytm that comes out a bit weird, what with the bass drum that always seems to be ahead of everything else.

And yes, that song is awesome and one of the most original things I've ever heard. I wish DG would still write songs like that...
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #275 on: December 23, 2010, 11:57:11 AM »
Was listening to lots of PoS today, I can't decide which is better - BE or TPE1. But hey, rankings ahoy:

BE / TPE1
Scarsick (yup, above RL)
RL
RS1
Entropia
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #276 on: December 23, 2010, 12:03:46 PM »
Was listening to lots of PoS today, I can't decide which is better - BE or TPE1. But hey, rankings ahoy:

BE / TPE1
Scarsick (yup, above RL)
RL
RS1
Entropia
OHBTCL

That's about exactly as I would do it.  Except drop TPE down to 3rd.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #277 on: December 23, 2010, 12:04:16 PM »
Scarsick above TPE1?

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #278 on: December 23, 2010, 12:14:04 PM »
BE
Road Salt One
Entropia
TPE
RL
Scarsick
OHBTCL

There's mine...a little different to a lot of peoples  :D
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #279 on: December 23, 2010, 12:16:26 PM »
The Perfect Element
Remedy Lane
BE
Entropia
One Hour By the Concrete Lake
Road Salt One
Scarsick

I've grown to love all of their album, though :)