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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #210 on: December 09, 2010, 02:10:46 PM »
Oh god, people who think Enter Rain is the greatest song ever written.


The song is very good, but seriously the chorus just drags it down. No matter how amazing the ending is, it doesn't save the rest of the song from being a standard PoS song.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #211 on: December 09, 2010, 02:52:35 PM »
the truth < Enter Rain

the truth = Jesus Christ

Enter Rain = Daniel Gildenl÷w

Therefore:

Jesus Christ < Daniel Gildenl÷w

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #212 on: December 09, 2010, 04:09:13 PM »
Oh god, people who think Enter Rain is the greatest song ever written.


The song is very good, but seriously the chorus just drags it down. No matter how amazing the ending is, it doesn't save the rest of the song from being a standard PoS song.

I always liked Enter Rain, it's not the best thing they've ever done but it's good, but I never understood the hype with the ending, yeah it's good but come on.  Maybe I've just missed something.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #213 on: December 09, 2010, 04:10:20 PM »
I never understood the hype around the chorus. It's just him saying "enter rain" over and over. But people seem to think it's the best thing he's ever written.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #214 on: December 09, 2010, 04:23:46 PM »
The Perfect Element, Part I is such an amazing album. Amazing that its sequel is so crappy.
Orion....that's the one with a bunch of power chords and boringly harsh vocals, isn't it?
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #215 on: December 09, 2010, 06:12:30 PM »
I love his delivery of the chorus, so I don't really get how you can feel ambivalent about it.

And I think Idiocracy needs more love, especially the ending :omg:

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« Reply #216 on: December 09, 2010, 06:13:40 PM »
I love his delivery of the chorus, so I don't really get how you can feel ambivalent about it.

And I think Idiocracy needs more love, especially the ending :omg:

It's a fine chorus. But it's not THAT great.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #217 on: December 09, 2010, 06:19:43 PM »
Better than TPE's.

(edit: I don't consider enter rain their best song btw)

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #218 on: December 09, 2010, 06:27:40 PM »
I actually find The Perfect Element (the song) one of the weakest moments on that album, (that still means it's amazing.)

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #219 on: December 09, 2010, 06:31:38 PM »
Better than TPE's.

No.

I actually find The Perfect Element (the song) one of the weakest moments on that album


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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #220 on: December 09, 2010, 08:25:08 PM »
I actually find The Perfect Element (the song) one of the weakest moments on that album, (that still means it's amazing.)
I tend to agree. While the other songs all have a ton of great moments, TPE only has a few, and only one that really resonates with me.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #221 on: December 09, 2010, 08:39:02 PM »
I actually find The Perfect Element (the song) one of the weakest moments on that album, (that still means it's amazing.)
I tend to agree. While the other songs all have a ton of great moments, TPE only has a few, and only one that really resonates with me.

Yeah, I think that's what I mean.  I love it, but I love most of the other songs more, they just stick with me more.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #222 on: December 10, 2010, 06:05:33 AM »
Enter Rain > The Perfect Element.

Discuss.
I think I wouldn't strictly agree, but I'd say Enter Rain is very, very close behind.

I never understood the hype around the chorus. It's just him saying "enter rain" over and over. But people seem to think it's the best thing he's ever written.
Because it's so powerful. As simple as this...

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« Reply #223 on: December 10, 2010, 06:17:00 AM »
I will ignore the discussion and claim that The Perfect Element is one of the best songs ever.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #224 on: December 10, 2010, 09:19:50 AM »
I never understood the hype around the chorus. It's just him saying "enter rain" over and over. But people seem to think it's the best thing he's ever written.
Because it's so powerful. As simple as this...

I like the song and all but I don't find it particularly amazing either to be honest.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #225 on: December 10, 2010, 09:39:44 AM »
I never thought 'Enter Rain' was great, kind of underwhelmed actually. Hadn't listened to it in years, but now I'm revisiting it, and yeah. It's pretty damn great.

Nonetheless, not really in the PoS mood, going back to Meshuggah.  :xbones
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« Reply #226 on: December 10, 2010, 09:57:38 AM »
I will ignore the discussion and claim that The Perfect Element is one of the best songs ever.
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #227 on: December 10, 2010, 08:19:03 PM »
It's 50% better if you listen Falling before it and let the songs flow into each other.
Falling by itself is better than Enter Rain, so I don't know what is there to discuss... :D

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #228 on: December 11, 2010, 12:35:58 AM »
PoS ended with BE and everything later should be burned. We know. Next.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #229 on: December 11, 2010, 12:40:45 AM »
Scarsick is better than people are making it out to be. And Road Salt is definitely not bad.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #230 on: December 11, 2010, 12:42:18 AM »
Yes, but that happens whenever he appears in this thread. And this time I'm not even exaggerating.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #231 on: December 11, 2010, 01:44:52 AM »
I enjoy both Scarsick and Road Salt, but only on occasions. I would have liked it better if PoS had written different albums instead of those one.

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« Reply #232 on: December 11, 2010, 01:47:49 AM »
I doubt a different album that's forced because "fans would want that" would be any better than these two they/he created because that's what they/he wanted.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #233 on: December 11, 2010, 04:52:34 AM »
Yeah, I realize that, but the point is Scarsick and Road Salt are  both albums I simple "tolerate" because I believe that the artist involved (DG) is worth giving full consideration. Road Salt One has grown on me quite a bit lately, though.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #234 on: December 11, 2010, 05:08:46 AM »
PoS ended with BE and everything later should be burned. We know. Next.
That's just so rong.

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« Reply #235 on: December 11, 2010, 05:15:14 AM »
Scarsick is very special to me, an amazing, amazing album.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #236 on: December 11, 2010, 05:55:29 AM »
I eagerly await RS2, especially considering the reworking they are doing.

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« Reply #237 on: December 11, 2010, 06:22:29 AM »
I'm also waiting and very interested. I just had this idea that since RS1 is called Ivory and RS2 is supposed to be called Ebony, I hope RS2 will be darker, more serious, and possibly heavier, which would most likely solve my main and only real problem with RS1.

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« Reply #238 on: December 11, 2010, 06:24:07 AM »
They are? I thought it was going to be like RS, what are they doing to it(wasn't it recorded like 5 years ago)?

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #239 on: December 11, 2010, 08:24:00 AM »
I'm also waiting and very interested. I just had this idea that since RS1 is called Ivory and RS2 is supposed to be called Ebony, I hope RS2 will be darker, more serious, and possibly heavier, which would most likely solve my main and only real problem with RS1.

Daniel has said the two albums will still sound like songs that belong together as a whole.  They are just reworking parts of it, not changing most of the songs or the album's general sound. 

Also, you don't have to like it, but I can't help but feel most people here are missing the point of Enter Rain.  No one ever said it was the most creative thing that Daniel has ever written, or the most "epic";  it's the simplicity of the song and the buildup that makes it so great to me, even if it was probably the easiest PoS song to write, I find it one of the very most effective.  The Perfect Element was complex and metaphoric, but Scarsick was direct and simple (and in my opinion, effective), take it or leave it. 

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #240 on: December 11, 2010, 02:56:07 PM »
If RS2 is like RS1, I won't be disappointed.

Scarsick and RS1 are both 4 out of 5 star records for me.

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #241 on: December 11, 2010, 04:32:59 PM »
For me Scarsick is easily better than TPE, I used to love TPE and hate Scarsick at my getting into POS period but now after many many listens I have almost no desire to listen to TPE (I still enjoy it very much when I listen to it but I just don't have any feeling like OMG I must listen to this right now) and I still have desire to listen to everything from Scrasick and there's no emotionally emptier moment there maybe except for MMMM I can live without that song but it's still good... And Idiocracy + Flame To The Moth combo is one of my favorite pieces of music overall it gets me everytime there's just so much emotion there

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #242 on: December 11, 2010, 09:58:07 PM »
For me Scarsick is easily better than TPE, I used to love TPE and hate Scarsick at my getting into POS period but now after many many listens I have almost no desire to listen to TPE (I still enjoy it very much when I listen to it but I just don't have any feeling like OMG I must listen to this right now) and I still have desire to listen to everything from Scrasick and there's no emotionally emptier moment there maybe except for MMMM I can live without that song but it's still good... And Idiocracy + Flame To The Moth combo is one of my favorite pieces of music overall it gets me everytime there's just so much emotion there

Thank you.  Our minority is few in number but strong in heart. 

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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #243 on: December 12, 2010, 05:55:44 AM »
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Re: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2
« Reply #244 on: December 13, 2010, 04:00:11 AM »
For me Scarsick is easily better than TPE, I used to love TPE and hate Scarsick at my getting into POS period but now after many many listens I have almost no desire to listen to TPE (I still enjoy it very much when I listen to it but I just don't have any feeling like OMG I must listen to this right now) and I still have desire to listen to everything from Scrasick and there's no emotionally emptier moment there maybe except for MMMM I can live without that song but it's still good... And Idiocracy + Flame To The Moth combo is one of my favorite pieces of music overall it gets me everytime there's just so much emotion there

Thank you.  Our minority is few in number but strong in heart. 

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