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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #70 on: August 22, 2010, 03:20:05 PM »
Probably a bit gay.


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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #71 on: August 22, 2010, 03:28:49 PM »
lol

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #72 on: August 22, 2010, 05:01:11 PM »
Harry Potter always strikes me as a fantasy written by a twelve year old enthusiast with ADD.

"There's a basilisk! And a giant dude in the garden! The giant has a baby dragon! And there's a centaur in the woods outside the massive castle with moving staircases and ghosts walking around everywhere talking to people! And one of them is holding his head! The students are sorted by a talking hat! There's a flying car! They play sports on broomsticks! They eat magic lollies that can taste like all sorts of things! You can't say the bad guy's name! They learn magic in school! They use owls to send messages! They go back in time! There are wraith things! The kids the main character hates are big bullies! The main character's just a boy, and he never does what the teachers say and he always dabbles in the extremely dangerous situations that even the wizards are afraid of, but they love him for it and he always saves the day and he has a lightning bolt on his head and he talks to snakes because HE'S SO AWESOME! THERE ARE WIZARDS EVERYWHERE! MAGICMAGICMAGICMAGICMAGIC! THIS FANTASY HAS EVERYTHING, SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE AWESOMEST!!!"

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #73 on: August 22, 2010, 05:02:48 PM »
 :lol I still like it though.

But real fantasy fans read A Song of Ice and Fire

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #74 on: August 22, 2010, 05:15:46 PM »
I must agree with Fluffy Horatio

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #75 on: August 22, 2010, 05:29:14 PM »
J.K. Rowling saying that Dumbledore's gay, without any textual evidence, and just to satisfy a personal view of some readers is a pathetic way to merchandise more this product.

Ignoring the fact that him being gay actually helped explain a lot of his actions in the past, I'm sure there were tons of people who hadn't touched the series for ten years that suddenly ran out and bought it because one of the characters was gay.

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2010, 05:32:31 PM »
J.K. Rowling saying that Dumbledore's gay, without any textual evidence, and just to satisfy a personal view of some readers is a pathetic way to merchandise more this product.

Just saw this.

You've got to be kidding me.

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2010, 05:33:08 PM »
Hey, he's a literature scientist.

He knows what he's talking about.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2010, 05:37:35 PM »
J.K. Rowling saying that Dumbledore's gay, without any textual evidence, and just to satisfy a personal view of some readers is a pathetic way to merchandise more this product.

Ignoring the fact that him being gay actually helped explain a lot of his actions in the past, I'm sure there were tons of people who hadn't touched the series for ten years that suddenly ran out and bought it because one of the characters was gay.



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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #79 on: August 22, 2010, 05:51:26 PM »
Also,
So Gandalf isn't just a really powerful wizard, but actually an immortal guardian angel of Middle-Earth with limitless resolve?
We actually went into this in quite a lot of detail in the LOTR thread.

Gandalf isn't immortal at all, but he is so powerful, nothing in the LOTR universe at that point in its history could kill him other than the Balrog, Saruman and Sauron himself. Or maybe all of the Nine together. Or maybe the dragons in the north, if there are any left, which I can't remember.

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2010, 12:02:29 AM »
Dumblydore.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2010, 11:42:38 AM »
Harry Potter always strikes me as a fantasy written by a twelve year old enthusiast with ADD.

"There's a basilisk! And a giant dude in the garden! The giant has a baby dragon! And there's a centaur in the woods outside the massive castle with moving staircases and ghosts walking around everywhere talking to people! And one of them is holding his head! The students are sorted by a talking hat! There's a flying car! They play sports on broomsticks! They eat magic lollies that can taste like all sorts of things! You can't say the bad guy's name! They learn magic in school! They use owls to send messages! They go back in time! There are wraith things! The kids the main character hates are big bullies! The main character's just a boy, and he never does what the teachers say and he always dabbles in the extremely dangerous situations that even the wizards are afraid of, but they love him for it and he always saves the day and he has a lightning bolt on his head and he talks to snakes because HE'S SO AWESOME! THERE ARE WIZARDS EVERYWHERE! MAGICMAGICMAGICMAGICMAGIC! THIS FANTASY HAS EVERYTHING, SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE AWESOMEST!!!"
:lol

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2010, 11:45:50 AM »

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2010, 11:47:56 AM »

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #84 on: August 23, 2010, 11:48:28 AM »
It came out right around the time the book did.  :lol

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #85 on: August 23, 2010, 11:50:05 AM »
That is awesome.

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #86 on: August 23, 2010, 11:56:49 AM »
The first Dumbledore (in the films) was the best, and he reminded me of Santa Claus. Gandalf reminds me of Frank Zappa (a straight-up badass who is beyond any mortal). Who wins? Not Santa Claus.

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #87 on: August 23, 2010, 12:04:28 PM »
:rollin I'm also not impressed with the second Dumbledore. It is unfortunate with the events that made them get another one? I'm sure if the Dumbledore that is acting now would have started the series we would hold different feelings. It would be the same way if Ian Mckellen had been unable to complete the LOTR trilogy

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #88 on: August 23, 2010, 12:16:01 PM »
It would be the same way if Ian Mckellen had been unable to complete the LOTR trilogy
Don't say things like that!  :'(

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #89 on: August 23, 2010, 12:19:24 PM »
Also,
So Gandalf isn't just a really powerful wizard, but actually an immortal guardian angel of Middle-Earth with limitless resolve?
We actually went into this in quite a lot of detail in the LOTR thread.

Gandalf isn't immortal at all, but he is so powerful, nothing in the LOTR universe at that point in its history could kill him other than the Balrog, Saruman and Sauron himself. Or maybe all of the Nine together. Or maybe the dragons in the north, if there are any left, which I can't remember.

That's... approaching Mary Sue status actually.

Either way, given that he'd clearly beat Dumbledore.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #90 on: August 23, 2010, 12:19:43 PM »
I don't wish any harm on him, it is just harsh reality of life. Shit happens, but I'm glad it didn't.

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #91 on: August 23, 2010, 12:38:46 PM »
I'm also not impressed with the second Dumbledore.
WAT?! Michael Gambon is completely awesome.

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #92 on: August 23, 2010, 12:39:24 PM »
WAT?! Michael Gambon is completely awesome.

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #93 on: August 23, 2010, 12:43:31 PM »
I don't disagree, just compared to the first one(don't know his name) was better in comparison

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #94 on: August 23, 2010, 01:00:11 PM »


There was actually someone wearing that shirt in Wal-Mart on the midnight of the book's release. Despite being in the line to get it as soon as possible, I already knew about it because I've never cared about spoilers. But it was epic seeing people's reactions. I mean, this guy was literally just walking up and down the line repeatedly, making sure everyone saw him. The cops (yes, there were cops on duty the night of the book's release, I guess to make sure no one killed anybody) eventually made him leave. But I couldn't help but giggle every time someone noticed the shirt and gasped.

What I really don't understand about that shirt, though is the line "I just saved you 4 hours..." 4 hours? Really? Bullshit. No one could read that whole book in 4 hours.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #95 on: August 23, 2010, 01:04:33 PM »
Also,
So Gandalf isn't just a really powerful wizard, but actually an immortal guardian angel of Middle-Earth with limitless resolve?
We actually went into this in quite a lot of detail in the LOTR thread.

Gandalf isn't immortal at all, but he is so powerful, nothing in the LOTR universe at that point in its history could kill him other than the Balrog, Saruman and Sauron himself. Or maybe all of the Nine together. Or maybe the dragons in the north, if there are any left, which I can't remember.

That's... approaching Mary Sue status actually.

Either way, given that he'd clearly beat Dumbledore.

Eh, not really. He's part of Middle Earth's mythology, it'd be like calling Jesus a Mary Sue.

He technically died after his fight with the Balrog, but Eru was all "wtf, no sleeping on the job."

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #96 on: August 23, 2010, 01:10:09 PM »
I really do need to reread all books placed in Tolkien's world, there is so much I've missed

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #97 on: August 23, 2010, 01:23:27 PM »
Also,
So Gandalf isn't just a really powerful wizard, but actually an immortal guardian angel of Middle-Earth with limitless resolve?
We actually went into this in quite a lot of detail in the LOTR thread.

Gandalf isn't immortal at all, but he is so powerful, nothing in the LOTR universe at that point in its history could kill him other than the Balrog, Saruman and Sauron himself. Or maybe all of the Nine together. Or maybe the dragons in the north, if there are any left, which I can't remember.

That's... approaching Mary Sue status actually.

Either way, given that he'd clearly beat Dumbledore.

Eh, not really. He's part of Middle Earth's mythology, it'd be like calling Jesus a Mary Sue.

He technically died after his fight with the Balrog, but Eru was all "wtf, no sleeping on the job."

Jesus is a total Mary Sue.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #98 on: August 23, 2010, 01:26:47 PM »
Gary Stue.

edit: Or is it Lary? I can never remember.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2010, 01:37:37 PM »
Either one. It can also be Marty Stu.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #100 on: August 23, 2010, 01:52:33 PM »
Without the character of Gandalf, there would be no Dumbledore. Gandalf ftw.

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« Reply #101 on: August 23, 2010, 01:55:06 PM »
Valid point, but magic as we know it is far more developed in Harry Potter. However, Gandalf does use a sword, I might have to change my vote

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #102 on: August 23, 2010, 01:59:47 PM »
Middle Earth was created by Eru and the Ainu getting together and singing a song. To me that beats anything from HP.

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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #103 on: August 23, 2010, 02:02:27 PM »
Karaoke night at middle earth!

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« Reply #104 on: August 23, 2010, 02:59:38 PM »
As much as I enjoy Harry Potter, Gandalf is a bigger badass.

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