Offbeat opinions about bands you actually like

[lateralus88]

Er, sticking with the offbeat opinions, I agree with Derek Oliver, the A&R man who had to pressure them into writing a single, about Awake. Album full of good songs, no real great songs. It's a good listen for sure, but it's just... there.

Metallica: I agree with the people saying that Load is one of the best them, it's in my top 3 Metallica albums easily. I'd also like to throw out that St Anger is better than Ride The Lightning, and Hetfield's voice in 96-99 ish is miles better than Hetfield's voice from 84-88.

Tool and Porcupine Tree are studio bands.

1.
2. Have you ever seen Tool live?

Note - I'm not flaming you.

[King Postwhore]

Tool and Porcupine Tree are studio bands.

I have to strongly disagree with you on this point.

[moffatt]

Dream Theater are getting better with age.

[limnides]

Opeth: The Steven Wilson produced albums are the worst in the catalog. Yes, this includes Damnation and Blackwater Park. While I respect those albums and Opeth's relationship with SW for what that turned their sound into in general, I still can't make it through any of them in one sitting.

My sentiments exactly.

Anathema - Newest album is the best, and anyone who says otherwise is clearly wrong.

Nuuu.  :c
I'm not wrong, just differently right.


& I'm with Arcaeus and ddtonfire (and anyone else) on Porcupine Tree being overrated.

[Marvellous G]

Er, sticking with the offbeat opinions, I agree with Derek Oliver, the A&R man who had to pressure them into writing a single, about Awake. Album full of good songs, no real great songs. It's a good listen for sure, but it's just... there.

Metallica: I agree with the people saying that Load is one of the best them, it's in my top 3 Metallica albums easily. I'd also like to throw out that St Anger is better than Ride The Lightning, and Hetfield's voice in 96-99 ish is miles better than Hetfield's voice from 84-88.

Tool and Porcupine Tree are studio bands.

1.
2. Have you ever seen Tool live?

Note - I'm not flaming you.

I haven't, so I can't judge actually seeing them live, but based on every live recording I've heard of either band I'd go with my statement.

Although I'm sure actually being there at a concert for either would still be great.

[MetalManiac666]

Dream Theater are getting better with age.

Tell you what, I'm going to piss away a bit of goodwill here (nice to do a bit of spring cleaning), but Systematic Chaos is fucking brilliant. I could gorge myself on it for hours. And frequently do. The Dark Eternal Night being one of the highlights, and a song which has flirted with my top ten.

I was actually gonna make a thread about this DT-side, and call it "Systematic Chaos is gorgeous," but I couldn't think of a way to start it without sounding all smug. It's hard to make something that goes so self-consciously against the tide without sounding like some absolute bell-end who's hell-bent on being alternative and trying to do something clever and edgy, which is why I didn't bother making the thread. But it's a brilliant album and I've been struggling to work out why it's so widely lambasted for the last three years.

Er, sticking with the offbeat opinions, I agree with Derek Oliver, the A&R man who had to pressure them into writing a single, about Awake. Album full of good songs, no real great songs. It's a good listen for sure, but it's just... there.

I loved this post...until I got to the last paragraph.

[Dark Master Of Sin]

If these count:

Falling Into Infinity is a fantastic album

I Walk Beside You is an absolutely beautiful song

Systematic Chaos is a flawless victory.

[MetalManiac666]

1. I don't know if I would call it fantastic, but it's definitely good.

2. "I Walk Beside You" might just be my least favorite DT song.

3. For the most part, Sytematic Chaos is indeed a pretty great album.

[Ben_Jamin]

I Walk Beside You is great. So uplifting.

 Also, you can't judge a bands live performance based on video or sound recordings. Some things get lost and it's better to see it live yourself, if you get the chance. Which is why Tool won't release a live dvd. Theirs something special about feeling the bass and bass drums hit you hard.

[MetalManiac666]

 Also, you can't judge a bands live performance based on video or sound recordings. Some things get lost and it's better to see it live yourself, if you get the chance. Which is why Tool won't release a live dvd. Theirs something special about feeling the bass and bass drums hit you hard.

I completely agree.

[In The Wake Of Poseidon]

Rhapsody and Manowar are great bands.

[Seventh Son]

Manowar is a great band.

fix'd

[Gadough]

Systematic Chaos is a flawless victory.

It's a victory with a few flaws here and there.

[Perpetual Change]

I was actually gonna make a thread about this DT-side, and call it "Systematic Chaos is gorgeous," but I couldn't think of a way to start it without sounding all smug. It's hard to make something that goes so self-consciously against the tide without sounding like some absolute bell-end who's hell-bent on being alternative and trying to do something clever and edgy, which is why I didn't bother making the thread. But it's a brilliant album and I've been struggling to work out why it's so widely lambasted for the last three years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PrG6jznvjM&feature=fvst

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Old Porcupine Tree absolutely demolishes new Porcupine Tree, but I love both.

The Final Cut is one of the best Floyd albums.

Systematic Chaos is one of the best DT albums.

I don't care much for Pain Of Salvation's Remedy Lane and Be is IMO their best. I do love the band though and like many I don't really like Scarsick and Road Salt so much.

Genesis: Selling England By The Pound is just an average album. The only real standout songs are Dancing With The Moonlit Knight and The Cinema Show. Even Firth Of Fifth is overrated despite the amazing guitar solo.

Van der Graaf Generator: H to He Who Am The Only One is nowhere near their best.

Gentle Giant: The Power And The Glory is good, but not among their best.

Magma: Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh isn't that good of an album.

King Crimson: Not even their weaker later material contains one bad album.

[lateralus88]

Er, sticking with the offbeat opinions, I agree with Derek Oliver, the A&R man who had to pressure them into writing a single, about Awake. Album full of good songs, no real great songs. It's a good listen for sure, but it's just... there.

Metallica: I agree with the people saying that Load is one of the best them, it's in my top 3 Metallica albums easily. I'd also like to throw out that St Anger is better than Ride The Lightning, and Hetfield's voice in 96-99 ish is miles better than Hetfield's voice from 84-88.

Tool and Porcupine Tree are studio bands.

1.
2. Have you ever seen Tool live?

Note - I'm not flaming you.

I haven't, so I can't judge actually seeing them live, but based on every live recording I've heard of either band I'd go with my statement.

Although I'm sure actually being there at a concert for either would still be great.

Live recordings do the band absolutely no justice towards what a live show of theirs is like. Think about one of the happiest moments of your life. Okay? Got it visualized? Now, intensify it by 10 fold, add lasers and a pinch of LSD. You are now at a Tool show.

[Birch Boy]

Endgame>Rust In Peace

Whoah, whoah whoah whoah whoah whoah.

WHOAH.

What?

[lateralus88]

Endgame>Rust In Peace

Whoooooooooooooooaaaaa
Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaa
WHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAf#

Fix'd

[ACID_FOX]

Great idea.

Metallica-The best on Load is equal to the best off their earlier albums.

That's all I got really...

Load & Reload are the best them, music and lyric wise.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

I'd also like to throw out that St Anger is better than Ride The Lightning

St. Anger is my most hated album of all time...

[moffatt]

Endgame>Rust In Peace

Whoooooooooooooooaaaaa
Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaa
WHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAf#

Fix'd

[Arcaeus]

I'd also like to throw out that St Anger is better than Ride The Lightning

And I'd also like to throw out that I WILL TEAR THE BEATING HEART FROM YOUR CHEST AND OFFER IT AS A GIFT TO THE DEATH GOD RUALG NJA GABORR

[Jamesman42]

I almost never listen to SFAM because it feels very bland in general. Cool parts scattered, but otherwise very meh.

Lifeline from Neal Morse is a masterpiece of an album.

There's a lot of good Christian music out there.

[ACID_FOX]

I almost never listen to SFAM because it feels very bland in general. Cool parts scattered, but otherwise very meh.

 

[Arcaeus]

I completely agree with Mr. Jamesman regarding that little detail.

[AwakeFromOctavarium]

Yeah. It was fun listening for a while, but the songs aren't that special themselves. The highest a SFAM song can make in my list is somewhere between Top 15 to 20.

[AwakeFromOctavarium]

I'd also like to throw out that St Anger is better than Ride The Lightning

I'd also like to throw out that you have a horrible taste.

[Sigz]

SFAM is the best them, all of you GTFO.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

SFAM is the best them, all of you GTFO.

[LudwigVan]

Death - Their last 3-4 albums are not Death metal.

Gentle Giant - For being one of the most complex and inaccessible prog bands of the 70s, their music is funky as hell and great to dance to.

ELP - Even though Keith Emerson was the mastermind, primary creative force and visionary behind the band's music, his keyboard playing wasn't all that great.  From a purely technical standpoint, he might have been the weakest musician of the 3.  Emerson's ideas translated wonderfully to the big sound of the Hammond Organ, but some of his limitations became apparent when he moved to the piano.  

Led Zeppelin - The incredibly heavy rhythm section of Bonham/JPJones actually stymied some of Jimmy Page's attempts to experiment with other musical forms.  Much as I love Houses of The Holy (possibly my fave Zep album), D'yer Maker doesn't sound like reggae and The Crunge doesn't sound funky.  

[ClairvoyantCat]

I like Opeth, but I dislike their lyrical style.

[Jakartabassplayer]

I'd also like to throw out that St Anger is better than Ride The Lightning

St. Anger is my most hated album of all time...

[KevShmev]

ELP - Even though Keith Emerson was the mastermind, primary creative force and visionary behind the band's music, his keyboard playing wasn't all that great.  From a purely technical standpoint, he might have been the weakest musician of the 3.  Emerson's ideas translated wonderfully to the big sound of the Hammond Organ, but some of his limitations became apparent when he moved to the piano.

 

[Ben_Jamin]

ludwig, I think those 3 or the last one was supposed to be Control Denied albums but he had a contract to get out of the way

[Birch Boy]

Isn't there supposed to be a new Control Denied album this/next year??