Author Topic: What's more important for an album...  (Read 4366 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline mizzl

  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1769
  • Gender: Male
  • I have officialy been ravenhearted. Thanks Zydar!
What's more important for an album...
« on: July 07, 2010, 03:40:16 PM »
... all the songs being pretty good or having some very good songs and some lesser songs on it?

Offline Seventh Son

  • Posts: 2496
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 03:43:32 PM »
All songs being very good  :biggrin:
Every time someone brings up "Never Enough", the terrorists win.

Offline ariich

  • Roulette Supervillain
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 28029
  • Gender: Male
  • sexin' you later
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 03:44:12 PM »
Either can work, although I think I'd tend to prefer half great and half average to all pretty good.

Ariich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
I be am boner inducing.

Offline Arcaeus

  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4357
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2010, 04:14:31 PM »
I prefer consistency and a solid flow to a few standout tracks.

Offline Pirate

  • Posts: 891
  • Gender: Male
  • Yeah buddy
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2010, 04:54:55 PM »
A few awesome tracks will do me just fine. Case in point - all of POS's albums.

Offline Zantera

  • Wolfman's brother
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 13430
  • Gender: Male
  • Bouncing around the room
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 04:57:36 PM »
For me, it isn't about all songs being great, it's more about how the album actually floats.
There are albums that has pretty much only awesome songs, but i think isn't as awesome as an album (In Absentia for example), meanwhile there's albums where the whole flow is just amazing, which creates a perfect album.

Offline King Postwhore

  • Couch Potato
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 59406
  • Gender: Male
  • Take that Beethoven, you deaf bastard!!
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 04:57:59 PM »
I teand to be disapointed when an album only has 1 or 2 standout songs.  I tend to play it less.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
So wait, we're spelling it wrong and king is spelling it right? What is going on here? :lol -- BlobVanDam
"Oh, I am definitely a jackass!" - TAC

Offline sneakyblueberry

  • put me in coach
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4363
  • Gender: Male
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2010, 05:15:46 PM »
I teand to be disapointed when an album only has 1 or 2 standout songs.  I tend to play it less.

I'm with king on this one.  Unless the standout tracks are really, really good I won't even pick that album up again.

Offline yorost

  • Inactive
  • Posts: 7862
  • Gender: Male
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 05:20:07 PM »
I prefer consistency and a solid flow to a few standout tracks.
This

Offline Fluffy Lothario

  • Posts: 4778
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 06:26:21 PM »
After the first year or so of listening to an album, apart from on occasional full album plays, I'll just play the highlights of the album. So it's more important to me that an album has three to six amazing tracks than being very good the whole way.

Of course, if an album is amazing the whole way, or almost the whole way, all the better.

Offline skydivingninja

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 11600
  • Gender: Male
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 06:35:40 PM »
I'm with Fluffy, 3/4 great tracks and other good tracks are the way to go, though an album full of great songs is definitely preferred.

Offline Sigz

  • BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 13537
  • Gender: Male
  • THRONES FOR THE THRONE SKULL
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 06:41:26 PM »
Obviously you want as many songs as possible to be amazing, but I think I'd prefer having some standouts and some good one with great flow to an album with all awesome songs but shit flow.
Quote
The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.

Offline UnutterableSquid

  • Squiddus Maximus
  • Posts: 114
  • Eddie, what took you so long?
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 08:32:38 PM »
I prefer consistency and a solid flow to a few standout tracks.

QFT

Also, if I wanted to listen to 1-2 good songs, I would listen to 1-2 good songs.

If I wanted to listen to a good album, I would listen to a good album.

What a twist!  :o

The Final Frontier - August 16th, 2010

Offline ZKX-2099

  • Posts: 3170
  • Gender: Male
  • The Drifting Drifter
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 08:37:06 PM »
I like when all songs are perfect like with City Of Evil and The Great Misdirect.

Offline Sigz

  • BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 13537
  • Gender: Male
  • THRONES FOR THE THRONE SKULL
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 08:37:57 PM »
Quote
The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.

Offline ZKX-2099

  • Posts: 3170
  • Gender: Male
  • The Drifting Drifter
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2010, 09:13:15 PM »
Am I not allowed to voice my own opinions here or something without being mocked?

Offline Arcaeus

  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4357
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2010, 09:15:04 PM »
You're learning fast. :tup

Offline Sigz

  • BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 13537
  • Gender: Male
  • THRONES FOR THE THRONE SKULL
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2010, 09:17:19 PM »
Don't take it too personally or seriously. We all give each other shit over our shitty opinions, it doesn't mean you're being mocked as a person or anything.
Quote
The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.

Offline UnutterableSquid

  • Squiddus Maximus
  • Posts: 114
  • Eddie, what took you so long?
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2010, 09:19:10 PM »
Don't take it too personally or seriously. We all give each other shit over our shitty opinions, it doesn't mean you're being mocked as a person or anything.

I resent that statement.

The Final Frontier - August 16th, 2010

Offline Sigz

  • BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 13537
  • Gender: Male
  • THRONES FOR THE THRONE SKULL
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2010, 09:21:07 PM »
You would.
Quote
The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.

Offline FiberglassMoon

  • Posts: 195
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2010, 10:01:27 PM »
It's gotta have more consistent tracks to be a great album for me.  Otherwise I end up just skipping the lesser songs and just listening to the great ones, which greatly takes away from the album.

Scenes is my favorite album ever, but it doesn't really have many great stand out songs, but as a whole album it's a masterpiece

Offline setrataeso

  • Setlist Archivist
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3765
  • Gender: Male
  • I probably don't like you
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2010, 10:45:54 PM »
It really depends.
There is certainly no secret formula for the perfect album.
Frankly, if an album has all great songs, then there is no question that it's a great album. But, the consistency vs. high-highs/low-lows album debate can go either way.

Take Rush for example:
Now, I prefer Test for Echo over Counterparts (which is already a pretty frowned upon opinion...) I would say T4E has higher highs, what with Driven, Time and Motion, Test for Echo, Resist, etc. But, it also has more frequent lows (although none quite match the shittiness of Double Agent) with Dog Years, Carve Away the Stone, and The Colour of Right.
Counterparts has, for the most part, a pretty solid selection of songs (Leave That Thing Alone, Cut to the Chase, Between Sun & Moon) and a few great songs (Alien Shore, Nobody's Hero), but no songs stand out on the album like they do on T4E for me.

On the other hand, the opposite is true for a band like Symphony X.
The Odyssey has higher highs (The Odyssey) and lower lows (Incantations of the Apprentice) than an album like Twilight in Olympus, which is overall a far more consistent album, but I prefer TiO.

In short, I have no preference, and there is certainly no formula to make a good album other than make every song great.
NEW REVIEW: Lady Gaga - Born This Way
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=25343.0

Setra, I think that is the best statement I have read on this forum.  Very well said.

Offline Jakartabassplayer

  • John Cleese's evil step brother
  • Posts: 757
  • Gender: Male
  • "THEY just drop"
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2010, 04:00:23 AM »
doesn't really matter to me.
as long as their are a few good tracks on it
Kipfilet is het borstdeel van de kip. Kenmerk van kipfilet is dat deze vetarm en lichtverteerbaar is.
I assume it's because you're awesome.
And JBP is yet again drunk  :lol

Offline AwakeFromOctavarium

  • Posts: 1406
  • Gender: Male
  • Penguin wins by default.
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2010, 04:08:20 AM »
Concept album.

On a serious note, Blackwater Park is a great example of how an album should be for me. Consistent flow of atmosphere and emotion. I don't mind probably 1/4 of filler, but it's obviously better without fillers.

V: The New Mythology Suite is a perfect album.
<br />Girls are like square roots; If they\\\'re under 18, do them in your head.<br />
You Americans feed the bears with bacon! That's why they've grown so ferocious!

Offline Sintheros

  • The Thunder Panda!
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 901
  • Gender: Male
  • Behind those eyes a world explodes.
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2010, 04:23:32 AM »
Normally I'd say all good, but Coheed and Cambria gives me an interesting contradiction.

SSTB has Time Consumer.
IKS has IKS, The Crowing, TL&TG, and 21:13
GA1 has Welcome Home and the two Apollos
GA2 has NWFT and Mother Superior
YOTBR's standout track is Hush, a bonus track that few people will hear and a song they'll probably never play live, and it bothers me.
caw caw

Offline tri.ad

  • The Invisible Man
  • DT.net Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7901
  • Gender: Male
Re: What's more important for an album...
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2010, 05:27:23 AM »
Consistency is the key for me.
... And you ask me: "Where's my hairspray?"

Mentlegen.