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Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« on: July 02, 2010, 08:58:37 AM »
I think dedicating an entire thread to discussing the victory that is New Millennium is long overdue.

I know that it was kinda built off of Caught In A Web but it's still one of Dream Theaters most unique sounding songs I can think of. It's kinda gotta an enjoyable funk vibe and is up there with Metropolis' instrumental section.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2010, 09:01:15 AM »
Personally I'd say it is one of my least favorite DT songs and easily my least favorite opener.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2010, 09:02:16 AM »
p.s. Raise the Knife should have opened FII.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2010, 09:05:04 AM »
Good, solid song, for sure.

But as much as I like it, and like FII, I have always thought that "New Millennium" wasn't a very strong opener. 

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2010, 09:06:28 AM »
I actually think that the opener of each CD has been better than the one before it.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2010, 09:11:28 AM »
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2010, 09:30:21 AM »
I hate the keyboard intro, but once the song gets going, it's pretty enjoyable.

But yes, it isn't a great opener. But what else could have opened FII any better (of the songs that made the final cut)?
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 09:42:46 AM »
But what else could have opened FII any better (of the songs that made the final cut)?
Of the songs that made the cut.....Lines In The Sand.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 09:47:03 AM »
But what else could have opened FII any better (of the songs that made the final cut)?
Of the songs that made the cut.....Lines In The Sand.

Hmm, interesting.  I like that idea.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 09:55:12 AM »
Personally, I really like New Millennium, and I think it makes a good opener.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 10:22:40 AM »
But what else could have opened FII any better (of the songs that made the final cut)?
Of the songs that made the cut.....Lines In The Sand.
Nah, that has to come after Hell's Kitchen.

BTW, I really like New Millenium.  It is one of the few DT songs that I disliked at first, but then grew to appreciate over time.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 10:29:41 AM »
But what else could have opened FII any better (of the songs that made the final cut)?
Of the songs that made the cut.....Lines In The Sand.
Nah, that has to come after Hell's Kitchen.

BTW, I really like New Millenium.  It is one of the few DT songs that I disliked at first, but then grew to appreciate over time.

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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 10:29:58 AM »
I guess so.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 11:23:49 AM »
I really like it as an opener.  From the opening notes, it is clear that some new sounds and influences have entered the Dream Theater repertoire.  I recognized the Chapman Stick immediately and thought it was cool as hell that Myung had picked one up.  It immediately put me into an 80's King Crimson mentality, and a lot of their work had to do with playing patterns against each other, which happens a lot in "New Millenium", so it all fit very nicely.

I can see how a lot of people have trouble with it, as it is definitely an anomoly in the DT catalogue, and they didn't exactly follow this new direction, but I thought it was great.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2010, 11:27:07 AM »
It's an okay song with nice melodies and fun work on da chapman stick, I agree about that there's no other song on the album that'd be a better opener.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2010, 06:50:07 PM »
I love it but it shouldn't have opened the album.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2010, 07:00:47 PM »
I really like it, both as a song in general and as the album opener.  Interestingly, DT had fallen off my radar during the FII days, and I didn't hear this song until I heard the Caught In A New Millenium version on LSFNY.  I slightly prefer that version, but not sure if I actually think it is better, or if it's just because I heard that version before I heard the album version, but I really appreciate the clever juxtaposition of the different parts that gave rise to each of the two songs (CIAW and NM).
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2010, 07:03:33 PM »
The version from the FII demos is miles better, imo. I don't know why, but I adore that version.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2010, 04:35:03 AM »
Personally I'd say it is one of my least favorite DT songs and easily my least favorite opener.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2010, 06:43:34 AM »
I prefer Vicarious, but I do like it.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2010, 07:22:16 AM »
It's an amazing song, easily one of Dream Theater's best opening songs.  Like Orbert said, those new sounds that Derek and the Chapman stick brought really make themselves known and they don't detract from the song at all.  It also has one of the most infectious grooves in a DT song.  If anything, I wish they'd try and make a more "rock" album than anything else because great songs like NM prove that they're really good at it.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2010, 07:38:16 AM »
Personally I'd say it is one of my least favorite DT songs and easily my least favorite opener.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2010, 07:23:34 PM »
Personally I'd say it is one of my least favorite DT songs and easily my least favorite opener.
Read the title of this thread, man!

Fine, I will say something kinda nice.

While Raise the Knife most certainly should have been the song to open Falling Into Infinity, New Millennium certainly would have made an decent B-side.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2010, 07:33:53 PM »
Shame, Nick, shame.

I think it is one of their best openers and is one of my favourite Dream Theater songs.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2010, 07:49:47 PM »
Great song, and very unique against the backdrop of DT's career.

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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2010, 08:37:30 PM »
Good song...not great...but very good.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2010, 06:20:22 PM »
In my top 5 DT songs. I LOVE this song.

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2010, 08:20:01 AM »
p.s. Raise the Knife should have opened FII.

I disagree with that. While Raise The Knife is an amazingly strong song, it doesn't work well as an opener. New Millennium is a decent opener, but LITS would have worked as well imo.
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« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2010, 08:36:11 AM »
Actually, I think "Hell's Kitchen" being the first song off FII, an overture of sorts leading into "Lines in the Sand," would have worked wonderfully.  With the very beginning reworked a tad to make it sound like a first song. 

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« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2010, 08:37:16 AM »
Actually, I think "Hell's Kitchen" being the first song off FII, an overture of sorts leading into "Lines in the Sand," would have worked wonderfully.  With the very beginning reworked a tad to make it sound like a first song.  

I actually did that once - I burned a CD with a mix of FII and FII demo songs and made Hell's Kitchen the opening track. It works well, but I agree with you that the beginning would have needed some tweaking.
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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2010, 12:37:55 PM »
Actually, I think "Hell's Kitchen" being the first song off FII, an overture of sorts leading into "Lines in the Sand," would have worked wonderfully.  With the very beginning reworked a tad to make it sound like a first song. 

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Re: Official New Millennium appreciation thread.
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2013, 10:06:53 PM »
Time to bring this thread back to life. Amazing song. Its a shame that they probably wont play it live again (being James' least favourite DT song)

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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2013, 12:15:11 AM »
Funnily enough, I've always disliked the song until the last few days! All of a sudden it's just resonated with me musically. Lyrics are a bit mehhhh, but I can live with that :)

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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2013, 01:16:34 AM »
Great song. I didn't quite care for it at first, but after watching the Budokan DVD it grew on me and now I enjoy it a lot.

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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2013, 01:31:10 AM »
Great song, it's even in my top 50  :)