This may be the downfall of music.

[splent]

but it takes talent to write music as catchy as they do and they're amazing why can't you see it and if you say pop music is crap you're a total prog elitist wtf man

This was where I got you like Miley and Bieber, because this was your post after I posted the picture of the two.

[King Postwhore]

Surely, you get the Chris Hansen connection here.

It's sad when don't make the connection.  What the hell is wrong with me today?!

[Adami]

I don't have much of an opinion of Justin Timberlake as a musician, but he's hillarious as an actor. Quite good, not amazing, but pretty good actor in my opinion. And nice body.

[Darkes7]

but it takes talent to write music as catchy as they do and they're amazing why can't you see it and if you say pop music is crap you're a total prog elitist wtf man

This was where I got you like Miley and Bieber, because this was your post after I posted the picture of the two.

It was a joke based on the "controversial opinions" thread, where someone said pop stars are talented because they can write catchy music and I was called a prog elitist because I said 95% of modern pop is crap.

[King Postwhore]

No I mean why is this oriented at me? I don't think I've heard anything from No Doubt or Gwen Stefani ever  

Sorry Sigz are correct. It should have been aimed at TheOutlawXanadu!  Sorry.  See! What the hell is wrong with me today.  Time to grab a beer!

[Dimitrius]

Gwen solo=Bad.  Gwen No Doubt=Gold.

This is true.

[TL]

GOOD POP
Does not compute

OK POP
Does not compute

ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it

FTFM

It has actually been scientifically proven that most of Michael Jackson's songs from Thriller onward are awesome.

On another note;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmIzxO0-n4

Edit:

[Chris Hanson]

Fun fact, you only have to be 16 in Canada.

[Dimitrius]

On another note;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmIzxO0-n4

[King Postwhore]

On another note;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmIzxO0-n4

What the

[Perpetual Change]

How is writing your own music a marker of good pop? If a song is good, it's good, and if it's bad, it's bad, not only regardless of whether the person singing it wrote it themselves, but regardless of who wrote it at all.

True, but there's a pretty damn strong correlation between artists who write their own music and music that's worth listening to. There's obviously exceptions to this, Elton John being one, Kesha obviously not on the same tier. Of course, pop artists writing their own music doesn't necessarily translate to anything special. I don't see, for example, how Lady Gaga is ANY different from the rest of those faceless pops act out now (other than her putting on a face).

I'm confused on the Elton John remark.  He wrote the songs and Bernie wrote the lyrics.

To clarify, I didn't meant that Elton John was just a face, as many current popstars are, I just meant that the notion of pop music and pop stars as more than one person and an entire package rather than just limited to a single name wasn't necessary a bad one.

[King Postwhore]

Got ya!

[Zook]

Lindsay Lohan is the best them. Why can't people just respect her privacy?

[Slain]

I don't get why anyone would think Kesha is good pop, she's scraping the bottom of the barrel of shit. She's easily the best example of horrible music today.

[splent]

It has actually been scientifically proven that most of Michael Jackson's songs from Thriller onward are awesome.

Off the Wall is fantastic.  Don't forget that one.

[Fluffy Lothario]

I haven't said I like Bieber or Cyrus, quite the opposite. Maybe they can sing, but well... Timberlake defines the worst possible side of pop performed by, erm, men - the "wow look I'm so hot" guy with a voice sounding like he's about to fall apart, Pink sounds extremely annoying.

And well, I definitely don't like Britney Spears, and her early songs are equally terrible, but some of her later work is a different thing and two or three tiers above 90% of that list... The only one I can agree without any doubt whatsoever that it's good pop is Michael Jackson.

Justin Timberlake's vocal style often directly reminds me of Michael Jackson's, but ok.

[Perpetual Change]

I don't get Michael Jackson. There's just some instances where, no matter how hard I try or should, I can't remove the art from my feelings about the artist.

[Fluffy Lothario]

I've never had that problem.

[TL]

It has actually been scientifically proven that most of Michael Jackson's songs from Thriller onward are awesome.

Off the Wall is fantastic.  Don't forget that one.

Off the Wall is good, but I personally find it harder to get into than the albums that followed it (except for 'Don't Stop 'Till You Get Enough', which is awesome).

[Volk9]

I always thought that picture was shooped...

[MetalManiac666]

GOOD POP
Does not compute

OK POP
Does not compute

ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it

FTFM

Yeah, this, though I don't consider artists like Michael Jackson to be pop anymore.

[Genowyn]

I've always felt that with pop, the key to being good is to not take itself too seriously. It's like those candies that look like little bananas. Those things taste like shit, because it's candy masquerading as a banana, which is real food. Candy should embrace its candiness and be the best damn candy it can be, like a Warhead.

[Portrucci]

I've always felt that with pop, the key to being good is to not take itself too seriously. It's like those candies that look like little bananas. Those things taste like shit, because it's candy masquerading as a banana, which is real food. Candy should embrace its candiness and be the best damn candy it can be, like a Warhead.

Good analogy 

[zxlkho]

I've always felt that with pop, the key to being good is to not take itself too seriously. It's like those candies that look like little bananas. Those things taste like shit, because it's candy masquerading as a banana, which is real food. Candy should embrace its candiness and be the best damn candy it can be, like a Warhead.

Seriously, the best candies ever.

[Jamesman42]

GOOD POP
Does not compute

OK POP
Does not compute

ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it

FTFM

Yeah, this, though I don't consider artists like Michael Jackson to be pop anymore.

  He is called the "King of Pop". How is he not pop?

[zxlkho]

He's Classic Pop

[Jamesman42]

OK, and that is still pop AFAIK.

[hefdaddy42]

Timberlake defines the worst possible side of pop performed by, erm, men - the "wow look I'm so hot" guy with a voice sounding like he's about to fall apart

Justin Timberlake has to be the best male example of good pop.

Also good pop (IMHO): John Mayer and Jason Mraz.

[zxlkho]

Also good pop (IMHO): John Mayer and Jason Mraz.

Absolutely, yes.

[SPNKr]

Timberlake defines the worst possible side of pop performed by, erm, men - the "wow look I'm so hot" guy with a voice sounding like he's about to fall apart

Justin Timberlake has to be the best male example of good pop.

Also good pop (IMHO): John Mayer and Jason Mraz.

You're right. His older stuff was pretty good though, I was liking that stuff long before I found BETTER music.
Sorry I had to say that

[AwakeFromOctavarium]

Justin Timberlake is one of the few pop artists I can actually enjoy.

[MetalManiac666]

GOOD POP
Does not compute

OK POP
Does not compute

ABSOLUTE CRAP POP
All of it

FTFM

Yeah, this, though I don't consider artists like Michael Jackson to be pop anymore.

  He is called the "King of Pop". How is he not pop?

I consider pop to be whatever plays on top-40 stations on the radio.  I've never heard a Michael Jackson song on a top-40 station.

[Darkes7]

No idea about any top whatever lists, but I've heard Michael Jackson many times in the radio, and not necessarily in the past year. (And I'm talking about a 100% mainstream radio)

[Dr. SeaWolf]

I can't stand Ke$ha, but I love Lady Gaga.  (especially once I figured out where she got her stage name from)

[zxlkho]

(especially once I figured out where she got her stage name from)

Care to enlighten me?

[Arcaeus]

I think it was from a Queen song called Radio Gaga.