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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1260 on: December 29, 2016, 01:24:33 PM »
Thanks for that. Jens Bogren is who I was thinking of. I didn't realize DIADL was mixed by Magnotti. I thought it was Jim. Sorry! :)

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1261 on: January 10, 2017, 10:54:58 AM »
Finally listened to Theories of Flight. An amazing album. Love the music and lyrics. The Light and Shade of Things is one awesome song, it may surpass Still Remains as my favorite.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1262 on: January 10, 2017, 01:34:22 PM »
Finally listened to Theories of Flight. An amazing album. Love the music and lyrics. The Light and Shade of Things is one awesome song, it may surpass Still Remains as my favorite.

It's now my favorite Fates Warning song no question.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1263 on: January 10, 2017, 10:35:38 PM »
Finally listened to Theories of Flight. An amazing album. Love the music and lyrics. The Light and Shade of Things is one awesome song, it may surpass Still Remains as my favorite.

It's now my favorite Fates Warning song no question.

It's getting there....

I also like how TTOF is instrumental and closes the album. It's like Disconnected
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1264 on: January 10, 2017, 10:46:16 PM »
Finally listened to Theories of Flight. An amazing album. Love the music and lyrics. The Light and Shade of Things is one awesome song, it may surpass Still Remains as my favorite.

It's now my favorite Fates Warning song no question.
It's definitely in contention for me. And I'm quite sure Theories of Flight is now my favorite FW album.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1265 on: January 11, 2017, 03:08:47 PM »
TOF, the song is directly connected to Ghosts from Home. Just listen to the spoken parts woven into the instrumental...
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1266 on: January 12, 2017, 11:30:45 AM »
I just noticed seven of Fates Warning's 17 scheduled shows over the next month or so are taking place in Germany.  That's interesting.  I'd never realized Germany has so much fan support for the band.  I knew Greece liked Fates Warning, but not Germany.  Cool stuff!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1267 on: February 08, 2017, 02:48:23 PM »
Can I get some love for "Island in the Stream," off of Inside Out? I've always loved it, but man, was listening today, and had one of those moments where you're just blown away by how good it is. Anybody else out there think this is one FW's finest moments?
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1268 on: February 08, 2017, 02:54:04 PM »
Can I get some love for "Island in the Stream," off of Inside Out? I've always loved it, but man, was listening today, and had one of those moments where you're just blown away by how good it is. Anybody else out there think this is one FW's finest moments?

First of all, Inside Out is a GREAT album. Might be odd coming from me, as it is not necessarily heavy nor is it really progressive. It's simple and melodical. Not the tyope of album that I think a band should make. But it just works. Totally.
TBH, Island In The Stream usually gets skipped. I'll spin it in your honor tonight!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1269 on: February 08, 2017, 02:55:39 PM »
Inside Out was top 3 for me for a long time.  Not sure it would still be these days, but wouldn't be far off.  Great melodies, great performances, excellent solos and just a great record.  Not far off the quality of Parallels if you ask me.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1270 on: February 08, 2017, 03:02:06 PM »
Can I get some love for "Island in the Stream," off of Inside Out? I've always loved it, but man, was listening today, and had one of those moments where you're just blown away by how good it is. Anybody else out there think this is one FW's finest moments?

First of all, Inside Out is a GREAT album. Might be odd coming from me, as it is not necessarily heavy nor is it really progressive. It's simple and melodical. Not the tyope of album that I think a band should make. But it just works. Totally.
TBH, Island In The Stream usually gets skipped. I'll spin it in your honor tonight!

It's a pretty rainy day here, so the emotion in the song really came out. Yep, I've always known you've liked Inside Out, Tim!  :laugh:

Inside Out was top 3 for me for a long time.  Not sure it would still be these days, but wouldn't be far off.  Great melodies, great performances, excellent solos and just a great record.  Not far off the quality of Parallels if you ask me.

Agree completely. I've always considered it more Parallels Pt. 2 -- same general direction. Obviously, they took a bit of a turn with APSOG after that...
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1271 on: February 08, 2017, 03:09:06 PM »
Island in the stream is my second favorite FW song and one of my favorite songs ever written. It has on occasion brought tears to my eyes and has helped me through some rough times.

I love the album of inside out as well.

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« Reply #1272 on: February 08, 2017, 03:22:06 PM »
Island in the stream is my second favorite FW song and one of my favorite songs ever written. It has on occasion brought tears to my eyes and has helped me through some rough times.

I love the album of inside out as well.

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« Reply #1273 on: February 08, 2017, 03:22:58 PM »
Inside Out is excellent

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1274 on: February 08, 2017, 04:20:09 PM »
Finally listened to Theories of Flight. An amazing album. Love the music and lyrics. The Light and Shade of Things is one awesome song, it may surpass Still Remains as my favorite.

It's now my favorite Fates Warning song no question.
It's definitely in contention for me. And I'm quite sure Theories of Flight is now my favorite FW album.

Agreed on both counts. :metal


As for Inside Out, it's an album that's grown on me a bit over the past few months- but my personal fave off that album is Pale Fire. Really love the lyrics on that one.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1275 on: February 08, 2017, 04:20:57 PM »
Inside Out and APSOG were the first two Fates albums I heard. I found them used at a local store and listened to them both that night. Not sure which one I actually spun first, but Inside Out is special to me for that reason. I remember staring at the cover for a long time before realizing it actually said "Inside Out."

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« Reply #1276 on: February 08, 2017, 04:32:19 PM »
Thinking about a top 3 FW;

1. Parallels (I don't think this will ever be dethroned)
2. Theories of Flight (I'm pretty confident to have this as my number two, it's incredible.)
3. Inside Out or Disconnected (This is where it gets tough for me, depends on my mood, but Disconnected might edge it.)
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1277 on: February 08, 2017, 04:35:10 PM »
Thinking about a top 3 FW;

1. Parallels (I don't think this will ever be dethroned)
2. Theories of Flight (I'm pretty confident to have this as my number two, it's incredible.)
3. Inside Out 

This is mine! :metal
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1278 on: February 08, 2017, 04:37:19 PM »
A few years ago Inside Out would be number three without question.  Disconnected took so long for me to get into, at first, I didn't get it at all.  But now I've grown to love the sounds, mood, atmosphere and everything about it.  I'm not the proggiest of prog guys, that that is brilliant prog done right.  Might have to listen to both.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1279 on: February 08, 2017, 05:58:28 PM »
What do you guys think of "A Handful of Doubt" from X? I love this track. It starts slow, builds and has a powerful moody second half.
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« Reply #1280 on: February 08, 2017, 06:32:34 PM »
What do you guys think of "A Handful of Doubt" from X? I love this track. It starts slow, builds and has a powerful moody second half.

I remember really liking X when it came out, but it's been years since I've listened to it, I can't remember much about it, except for Left Here and Another Perfect Day.  Great songs.
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« Reply #1281 on: February 08, 2017, 06:48:40 PM »
What do you guys think of "A Handful of Doubt" from X? I love this track. It starts slow, builds and has a powerful moody second half.

That and Wish are my favorite songs from X.

My top 3:

1. APSOG
2. Parrallels
3. ToF

Inside out is a great album, and I would probably rank it somewhere around 5-7 in their discography. Islands is an amazing song!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1282 on: February 09, 2017, 12:26:57 AM »
They're playing hand full of doubt on the current tour. Plus, the last part of Ivory Gates. Inside Out was always in my top 3 Fates albums. Very underrated, I feel.
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« Reply #1283 on: February 09, 2017, 04:13:18 AM »
They're playing hand full of doubt on the current tour. Plus, the last part of Ivory Gates. Inside Out was always in my top 3 Fates albums. Very underrated, I feel.

Definitely.  Because it came after Parallels.
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« Reply #1284 on: February 09, 2017, 04:38:39 AM »
Can I get some love for "Island in the Stream," off of Inside Out? I've always loved it, but man, was listening today, and had one of those moments where you're just blown away by how good it is. Anybody else out there think this is one FW's finest moments?

Definitely my favorite track on what is probably their most underrated effort.  I love the evolution this band has made throughout their career.  Each effort has everything I love about the band but is delivered in such a variety of ways. 

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« Reply #1285 on: February 09, 2017, 04:56:23 AM »
I don't get why people don't talk more about FWX. It's a great record, yet there's a percentage of people who think it's their worst album.

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« Reply #1286 on: February 09, 2017, 05:35:40 AM »
Yeah, FWX is fucking amazing. I do get some people might like it less, as I did in the beginning - hard to follow up Disconnected. But over time I've started ranking it among their best.

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« Reply #1287 on: February 09, 2017, 07:27:11 AM »
Yeah, FWX is fucking amazing. I do get some people might like it less, as I did in the beginning - hard to follow up Disconnected. But over time I've started ranking it among their best.

Glad I'm not the only one. My Top 5 would be:

-Theories
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« Reply #1288 on: February 09, 2017, 07:37:07 AM »
What do you guys think of "A Handful of Doubt" from X? I love this track. It starts slow, builds and has a powerful moody second half.

Funny, when you first posted about "Island in the Stream", the first thing that popped into my head was "A Handful of Doubt".  They both have a mellow, contemplative quality punctuated by bits of heaviness in the middle.  Both so good.
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« Reply #1289 on: February 09, 2017, 07:39:00 AM »
Add me to those who love FWX. Love it from start to finish. Top 3 for sure maybe #2.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1290 on: February 09, 2017, 08:14:19 AM »
They're playing hand full of doubt on the current tour. Plus, the last part of Ivory Gates. Inside Out was always in my top 3 Fates albums. Very underrated, I feel.

Begging them to bring this to the U.S. I would love to see both of those tunes. We'll see if it happens. Most likely timeframe would be Fall...

Glad there is some love from the crowd here for FWX. I had been a casual fan for years until I saw them open for QR and DT in 2003, and I immediately couldn't believe I hadn't fully explored the catalog. So FWX was my first "new" FW album. So I became a hardcore in summer 2003, bought everything, and have purchased every release starting with FWX on release day. I was fortunate to see them twice on the 2003 summer tour, and then once in support of Darkness in a Different Light (they didn't play anywhere within 300 miles of me for FWX -- LA was the only gigs, I believe).
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« Reply #1291 on: February 09, 2017, 08:50:08 AM »
Hopefully they release a live album from this tour; I think they are due for a live release and its a perfect time with such a strong positive reaction for the new album.

I always enjoy FWX when I play it, but I don't listen to it very often.  I'll listen to it this week.

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« Reply #1292 on: February 09, 2017, 08:55:04 AM »
A bunch of folks posted their favorite Fates records. To be honest, I've never really thought about it aside from Parallels.

Right now (although subject to a ton of change), my top-2 are:

Parallels
Theories of Flight

The rest are really in a melting pot. I'm a bigger fan of the Alder-fronted Fates for sure. But while I love all the albums, those two rise to the top. I do have a soft spot for FWX though...

Hopefully they release a live album from this tour; I think they are due for a live release and its a perfect time with such a strong positive reaction for the new album.

I always enjoy FWX when I play it, but I don't listen to it very often.  I'll listen to it this week.

They are absolutely due for a live record for sure. I'm wondering if they are going to release the shows with Arch in celebration of Awaken the Guardian. But personally, I'd prefer a live Blu-ray/CD package from the last two tours...(Darkness and the current one).
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« Reply #1293 on: February 09, 2017, 09:03:41 AM »
My three favorite Fates Warning albums had been Parallels, Perfect Symmetry, and Inside Out. 

But now Theories has taken the top spot, but Parallels is still a close second.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1294 on: February 09, 2017, 09:06:06 AM »
If I didn't buy FWX, which was the only album at the Hastings, I'd have never heard my favorite FW song...Wish. the atmosphere and lyrics give me a feeling of ease. It's one song I put on when I'm feeling down or to calm my mind.
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