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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #140 on: July 08, 2013, 01:45:19 AM »
He really tosses Jim Matheos under the bus in some spots
And he does so, basically, because Jim doesn't like the old stuff he did anymore, because he doesn't appear to want to maintain a personal connection with a dude he played with 30 years ago and because he wanted everyone in the band to be 100% dedicated to the band.

Eh. Doesn't sound like a problematic attitude to me, and it aligns with everything I know and/or suppose to know about Jim.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #141 on: July 08, 2013, 03:46:35 AM »
Considering the fact that Arch/Matheos performed some music from the early records during their shows and Jim wanted to work with John Arch again, I'm having trouble putting a lot of stock into some of those comments. Sure, FW changed a lot over the years, but everyone's tastes evolve over time. Also, considering the fact that the Arch/Matheos album has some of the heaviest riffs that Jim has ever written...
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #142 on: July 08, 2013, 04:22:44 AM »
Sounds like the issue is more with him than Jim.  I don't see much wrong here.  Jim has always been very focused on the band and its future, I would probably be the same.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #143 on: July 09, 2013, 03:39:09 PM »
If a band is going to be successful, it needs to tour. I think John Arch has come to terms with that, and he's admitted that touring and doing a ton of live shows really isn't for him. I don't know why Victor finds that situation hard to understand. It sounds like they just couldn't agree on musical direction.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #144 on: July 09, 2013, 04:05:00 PM »
Sounds like the issue is more with him than Jim.  I don't see much wrong here.  Jim has always been very focused on the band and its future, I would probably be the same.

I don't see any problems overall either

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #145 on: July 13, 2013, 05:32:20 PM »
BUMP!

Anyone heard anything new about the album?  I've noticed that tickets to the Seattle show are available at the venue's website, and I'm going to pick some up next payday (even though it's 5 months in advance).    But has anyone heard anything about a release date on the album?
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #146 on: July 13, 2013, 08:17:20 PM »
I've got my ticket for the Reading PA show. I would love to here some info on the new album though.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #147 on: August 01, 2013, 11:05:27 AM »
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FATES WARNING – Reveal new album title, artwork and release date; Announce tourdates!

U.S. Progressive Metal pioneers FATES WARNING have finally returned with their first studio album release in about a decade! Entitled “Darkness In A Different Light”, the album will be released on September 30th, 2013 in Europe and October 1st, 2013 in North America via InsideOutMusic.

“Darkness In A Different Light” is FATES WARNING’s first album of new material since the release of “FWX” in 2004 and also marks the first release for the band’s stellar current line-up of Ray Alder (vocals), Jim Matheos and Frank Aresti (guitars), Joey Vera (bass) and Bobby Jarzombek (drums).

The album was produced by Matheos and mixed by long time FATES WARNING engineer Phil Magnotti, while mastering was handled by Maor Appelbaum at Maor Appelbaum Mastering, California.
The (above pictured) artwork for the album was designed by Conte di San Pietro.

FATES WARNING vocalist Ray Alder checked in with a comment as follows:

"Darkness in a Different Light" is the result of almost two years of very hard work from everyone in the band.
I believe that this line-up is the best that Fates has ever had, and I also think that it comes through in the music on this album. It's been almost nine years since our last studio album and I couldn't be more proud of what we've accomplished here.
We are looking very much forward to playing some new songs for our fans who have stuck by us over all these years. We plan on touring as much as possible for "Darkness in a Different Light" and hopefully we'll hit a few places we've never been...

Indeed, FATES WARNING already have headlining touring runs confirmed for October in Europe and November/December in North America, with further live activity to follow in 2014.
See https://fateswarning.com/ for the complete list of tour dates.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #149 on: August 01, 2013, 11:06:57 AM »
Interesting artwork. I like it.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #150 on: August 01, 2013, 11:18:49 AM »


ALL OF MY HYPE. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy This is probably my most anticipated album for the year, and I'll DEFINITELY be getting this one on release date! :metal :tup
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #151 on: August 01, 2013, 12:06:41 PM »
FINALLY!!!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #152 on: August 01, 2013, 12:08:39 PM »
Given what this line up, only with John Arch in Ray Alder's place, did on the Arch/Matheos album, I can only say I'm fucking STOKED about the potential of this album. Should be awesome.  :metal
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #153 on: August 01, 2013, 12:14:40 PM »
Unusual choice of cover art for a prog-metal band, but I like it! Cool album title as well. Can´t wait to hear it!

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #154 on: August 01, 2013, 12:33:25 PM »
Sweet.  Seems like a good year to finally get into Fates Warning...I'll be there opening night! 

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #155 on: August 01, 2013, 01:12:09 PM »
Wow. September 30th, one week after DT... That's pretty bold. But between DT, Queensryche and this, it's definitely an exciting year for Progressive Metal.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #156 on: August 01, 2013, 01:23:19 PM »
Sweet, wasn't sure if this was going to make it this year  :tup

One week after DT, same day as Alter Bridge, hopefully I find the time to give this the amount of listening it deserves.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #157 on: August 01, 2013, 01:34:37 PM »
Cool album name and cover! Can't wait for this release

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #158 on: August 01, 2013, 01:41:56 PM »
I could cry.  It's been a long nine years waiting for this release.  DT and FW releasing albums with a week of each other.  Wow!

Looks like the FW website is getting revamped.  I can't even access the FW forum.  "Something different is coming," it says. 
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #159 on: August 01, 2013, 01:51:36 PM »
I love that album art.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #160 on: August 01, 2013, 02:16:13 PM »
I love that album art.

It was done by the same guy who did Kevin Moore's Shine album.  Alessandro Falca of a company called Conte di San Pietro.

For some reason, I had an urge to invert the artwork colors, because origami is usually done on white paper.  Looks cool this way too, although I think the solid white background of the current cover will look really crisp and clean on a physical copy of the album!



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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #161 on: August 01, 2013, 02:32:12 PM »
I love that album art.

It was done by the same guy who did Kevin Moore's Shine album.  Alessandro Falca of a company called Conte di San Pietro.

For some reason, I had an urge to invert the artwork colors, because origami is usually done on white paper.  Looks cool this way too, although I think the solid white background of the current cover will look really crisp and clean on a physical copy of the album!

Considering the album title, I think it'd be really cool if they did have an inverted version of it, on the booklet or something.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #162 on: August 01, 2013, 02:35:01 PM »
I love that album art.

It was done by the same guy who did Kevin Moore's Shine album.  Alessandro Falca of a company called Conte di San Pietro.

For some reason, I had an urge to invert the artwork colors, because origami is usually done on white paper.  Looks cool this way too, although I think the solid white background of the current cover will look really crisp and clean on a physical copy of the album!

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You know, I think I like that even better than the regular version. Nice job! :tup

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #163 on: August 01, 2013, 02:42:45 PM »
I love that album art.

It was done by the same guy who did Kevin Moore's Shine album.  Alessandro Falca of a company called Conte di San Pietro.

For some reason, I had an urge to invert the artwork colors, because origami is usually done on white paper.  Looks cool this way too, although I think the solid white background of the current cover will look really crisp and clean on a physical copy of the album!

Considering the album title, I think it'd be really cool if they did have an inverted version of it, on the booklet or something.

Yeah, I get what you mean.  I feel like there's a whole light/dark or black/white thing going on between the album title and the origami paper being black instead of white, as you'd usually find.  I'm sure there's a method to the madness that we'll see and understand when we eventually get the album!  It's very prog and I like what they've done so far.  Can't wait to see what other artwork pops up in the booklet.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #164 on: August 01, 2013, 03:28:54 PM »
This is such great news. Most-anticipated album of the year.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #165 on: August 01, 2013, 03:39:13 PM »
I love that album art.

It was done by the same guy who did Kevin Moore's Shine album.  Alessandro Falca of a company called Conte di San Pietro.

For some reason, I had an urge to invert the artwork colors, because origami is usually done on white paper.  Looks cool this way too, although I think the solid white background of the current cover will look really crisp and clean on a physical copy of the album!





As cool as the original is, I definitely like yours better.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #166 on: August 01, 2013, 03:41:34 PM »
I think if the inverted image had the orange instead of pale blue, it'd be the best version. And the white version would look better with the pale blue, IMO. But that's just my own color coordination preferences.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #168 on: August 01, 2013, 05:30:26 PM »
Wow. September 30th, one week after DT... That's pretty bold. But between DT, Queensryche and this, it's definitely an exciting year for Progressive Metal.

not as bold as arch/matheos coming out the same fucking day as ADTOE.

...speakin of which, i love how i was anticipating DT releasing 2011's album of the year, and they didnt even release the best album of the day.

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« Reply #169 on: August 01, 2013, 11:17:50 PM »
This is some great news indeed. Can't wait!

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« Reply #170 on: August 01, 2013, 11:30:22 PM »
That cover looks so different and I love it.
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« Reply #171 on: August 02, 2013, 12:07:36 AM »
While the unofficial alternate cover does indeed look cool, I like the actual album cover since it is all white and yet the album title is Darkness in a Different Light.  To me that indicates a unique way to look at the concept of darkness. 

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« Reply #172 on: August 02, 2013, 04:50:05 AM »
So looking forward to this.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #173 on: August 02, 2013, 05:18:59 AM »
In exploring FW, I tried Pleasant Shade way back when it was first released, and was underwhelmed.  At the time, Alder's voice wasn't floating my boat.  I gotta revisit them, because I've gone to Parallels on DTF recommendations, and 'twas very nice.  Thinking I'll be following for this.
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« Reply #174 on: August 02, 2013, 05:21:21 AM »
Fates Warning needs a lot of time, I mean a lot of time and listens.
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