Author Topic: Nigthwish appreciation thread (Read 20487 times)

MetalMike06 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:38:01 PM »

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=127.0

I know it was pretty far back there. I just remember posting in it though.

But yeah

I appreciate Nightwish.

Blind_FaithX · « **Reply #36 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:49:48 PM »

Wishmaster (album) is awesome. Really. It's better than their greatest hits album.

It's really a great band to listen to.

nakedman · « **Reply #37 on:** June 20, 2009, 02:42:09 AM »

i hate them, but i don't judge!

Dr. SeaWolf · « **Reply #38 on:** June 20, 2009, 05:33:55 AM »

Been a fan since 2000. Awesome band! I think "Once" is my favorite album by them, with "Wishmaster" and "Dark Passion Play" close behind. I loved Tarja, and preferred her operatic style over the new singer, but Anette is definitely a good fit for the band and I'm looking forward to any new material from this lineup.

P.S. Marco kicks ass as a backup vocalist

Adami · « **Reply #39 on:** June 20, 2009, 09:02:04 AM »

Loved em back in the day. I even liked Dark Passion Play quite a bit.

But after seeing them live twice with Anette, I'm just not impressed anymore. She is horrible live, no energy, can't hit the notes, can't stay in tune, can't add the power, it's just horrible.

blackngold29 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 20, 2009, 10:23:46 AM »

Great band. The first song I saw on the internet with Planet Hell and a song that heavy with a female singer really got me hooked. Actually, thanks for reminding me to go buy a few more of their albums!

LeeHarveyKennedy · « **Reply #41 on:** June 20, 2009, 11:01:37 AM »

Quote from: blackngold29 on June 20, 2009, 10:23:46 AM

Great band. The first song I saw on the internet with Planet Hell and a song that heavy with a female singer really got me hooked. Actually, thanks for reminding me to go buy a few more of their albums!

It was Planet Hell that did it for me, as well. My friend played it in his car, and I made a very rare exception of it and asked him to play it again. Three more times.

Bombardana · « **Reply #42 on:** June 20, 2009, 11:04:28 AM »

I have to agree with that, Planet Hell was the first song I heard of them and I think their best one.

blackngold29 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 20, 2009, 09:53:37 PM »

Just saw this: End of an Era Blu-ray

MetalMike06 · « **Reply #44 on:** June 21, 2009, 12:14:00 AM »

Oceanborn is their best, IMHO.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #45 on:** June 21, 2009, 06:51:46 AM »

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 19, 2009, 10:29:55 PM

One incredible band for sure. They were strong and operatic with Tarja, but I am eagerly awaiting a new album with Annette, because that woman fits them real hard. I'm listening to Dark Passion Play right now and man, such a great album.

Zook · « **Reply #46 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:34:47 AM »

I'd like to fit Annette real hard.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #47 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:51:56 AM »

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on June 21, 2009, 06:51:46 AM

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 19, 2009, 10:29:55 PM
One incredible band for sure. They were strong and operatic with Tarja, but I am eagerly awaiting a new album with Annette, because that woman fits them real hard. I'm listening to Dark Passion Play right now and man, such a great album.

Finally, someone did it.

bosk1 · « **Reply #48 on:** August 26, 2009, 09:11:47 AM »

Listening to Dark Passion Play now after taking a long break from it. The break was needed. I'm still not in love with this album, but after the break, the songs are mostly good. Master, Passion, Greed still makes me laugh. Never has a song that tried so hard to sound angry sounded so silly.

Some friends and I are probably going to jam The Islander at an open mic jam on Labor Day.

tbw2445 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 26, 2009, 10:32:16 AM »

I just listened to Eva. What an incredible song. That singer has some great talent. Loved the guitar solo too.

yeshaberto · « **Reply #50 on:** August 26, 2009, 10:43:53 AM »

especially love their last album...the older stuff I enjoy for the most part

bosk1 · « **Reply #51 on:** May 11, 2010, 08:25:19 AM »

Some Nightwish came up on my iTunes this morning, so I had to bring this thread back from the dead. Two things:

1. They are still awesome. Love them. Listing to End of an Era right now, and there are few live albums out there that are this good.
2. I cannot emphasize enough how much I hate "misheard lyrics" threads/videos in general. I hate them as much as...well, a lot. But this one from Wishmaster never seems to stop cracking me up, and even though I know what the right lyrics are, I forever hear these joke lyrics and see this video in my mind whenever I hear the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg5_mlQOsUQ

Nick · « **Reply #52 on:** May 11, 2010, 09:39:36 AM »

yorost · « **Reply #53 on:** May 11, 2010, 10:04:16 AM »

Quote from: yeshua4 on June 19, 2009, 10:33:40 PM

I'm learning to love the old stuff, but the latest is amazing....is there rumors of the next album?

2011

Tarja might have one out before the end of the year, though. I think she's recording now.

Dr. DTVT · « **Reply #54 on:** May 11, 2010, 11:25:34 PM »

Quote from: bösk1 on May 11, 2010, 08:25:19 AM

I cannot emphasize enough how much I hate "misheard lyrics" threads/videos in general. I hate them as much as...well, a lot. But this one from Wishmaster never seems to stop cracking me up, and even though I know what the right lyrics are, I forever hear these joke lyrics and see this video in my mind whenever I hear the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg5_mlQOsUQ

The problem with misheard lyric videos is that for every decent one (Pearl Jam's "Yellow Ledbedder") there are a ton of crappy ones that try too hard. While half of them in that video were a stretch, the child farming part was pretty good, and I'm going to hear "Hard porn" everytime now.

sonatafanica · « **Reply #55 on:** May 11, 2010, 11:27:12 PM »

Nightwish have some really cool stuff.

Adami · « **Reply #56 on:** May 11, 2010, 11:30:12 PM »

Tuomas needs to adapt to his changing personality. He's trying too hard to sound miserable, and he's clearly not.

All artists should do what Devin Towsend does, change your music to fit who you are, don't force it.

Gadough · « **Reply #57 on:** May 11, 2010, 11:33:47 PM »

Anette is massively underrated, and Dark Passion Play is the best Nightwish album. I personally don't think the fanbase has given the new Nightwish a fair chance.

sonatafanica · « **Reply #58 on:** May 11, 2010, 11:35:59 PM »

That's because the fanbase consists sadly of complete twats. I lost all respect when Annette got booed off stage a year or two ago.

Adami · « **Reply #59 on:** May 11, 2010, 11:37:53 PM »

Quote from: Gadough on May 11, 2010, 11:33:47 PM

Anette is massively underrated, and Dark Passion Play is the best Nightwish album. I personally don't think the fanbase has given the new Nightwish a fair chance.

Her singing on DPP was good I thought, though some of the song writing left much to be desired. However, I gave her plenty of chances. I've seen her live twice and watched lots of bootlegs, she is horrible live. Sorry.

Gadough · « **Reply #60 on:** May 11, 2010, 11:38:27 PM »

Quote from: sonatafanica on May 11, 2010, 11:35:59 PM

That's because the fanbase consists sadly of complete twats. I lost all respect when Annette got booed off stage a year or two ago.

That's just uncalled for

yeshaberto · « **Reply #61 on:** May 11, 2010, 11:54:07 PM »

dark passion play is amazing

Gadough · « **Reply #62 on:** May 11, 2010, 11:57:43 PM »

The only song on it I don't love is Meadows of Heaven. If I had my way it would have ended after Seven Days to the Wolves. Whatever though, it doesn't weaken the album enough to matter.

bosk1 · « **Reply #63 on:** May 12, 2010, 07:34:42 AM »

DPP has its moments, but has never grabbed me and I feel it has several shortcomings. Admittedly, I was really a fan of Tarja and the version of Nightwish that had her in it, and to an extent, that is coloring my perception of DPP a bit. But I am fully aware of that bias, and despite it, I still have a few problems with the album:

1. Anette's singing is okay, but nothing spectacular. Granted, the music was completely written and recorded before she joined the band, so it wasn't written with her voice in mind and wasn't tailored to take advantage of her style and her strengths. It is a lot like WDADU with DT. Listening to that album, many might form a negative impression of Charlie Dominicci as a singer. But the problem is, those songs do nothing to showcase his ability and don't fit his style at all. Hearing his solo work, which is written to his strenghts, you can truly appreciate where he is able to shine. Similar with DPP. I have said it before, and I'll say it again: I'm really looking forward to hearing what they write with her in the band. Given how Tuomas writes, I don't see her taking a major role in the writing. But still, the album will be written with her in mind after Tuomas and the band have had the chance to tour extensively with her and see how her voice works.
2. Tarja's not in the band anymore. Get over it, Tuomas. I don't see the need to write songs about her and/or Marcelo, let alone several songs. The lyrical content really drags the album down in that regard.
3. As Adami pointed out, the album sounds too angsty for where Tuomas and the band are in their lives, so it doesn't come across as genuine and sounds forced at times.

Volk9 · « **Reply #64 on:** May 12, 2010, 07:48:06 AM »

Have'nt listened to them recently, but their still good

bosk1 · « **Reply #65 on:** May 12, 2010, 11:57:42 AM »

Regarding new album info:

Quote

In the June 2009 edition of the Finnish magazine, Soundi, Holopainen stated he had started work on the new album. In October 2009, rumors about the new album's name were going around with the title Wind Embraced, but Olzon listed the rumours as "not true" and said that the songs for the new album had not yet been completed apart from 3 songs written before May 2009. Tuomas Holopainen said in a recent interview, "[...]I can't reveal to you anymore but there is going to be a big twist so to say, on the next album." In an interview with Troy Donockley, when asked about his involvement in the new album, Donockley stated "Oh yes, I will be playing on the next album and from what Tuomas has told me, it is going to be something extraordinary..."

...

On the 1st of February 2010, Anette Olzon stated on her blog that Tuomas has 9 songs ready for the new album. She also stated that Nightwish will be meeting in the summer to make a demo, and fans should not expect anything any earlier than fall of 2011.

On Nightmail in April 2010, Tuomas revealed that he has now finished writing songs for the album.

This is just ridiculous. I never give bands crap for taking their time to work on an album. But they started the album in June 2009, and it's not going to be out until fall of 2011? Really? It takes over two years to record an album? In what universe? Tuomas just said last month that they are done writing, and it's still going to take a year and a half to record? Again, just ridiculous.

Adami · « **Reply #66 on:** May 12, 2010, 11:59:03 AM »

It's not that it takes that long to record, it's that he is taking time off. He wrote the songs at home by himself. He just isn't getting the band back together till next year. He's just living his life.

bosk1 · « **Reply #67 on:** May 12, 2010, 12:06:36 PM »

Again, I rarely complain about stuff like that, and I understand the need to take time off, but this is still a ridiculous delay. That will make it 4 years between albums. That kind of gap is generally only warranted where you have to find a new keyboard player and then your label screws you over and won't let you record, or your drummer loses an arm in a car accident, or someone in your band has an extended stay in rehab. As far as I know, none of those descriptions fit Nightwish. That's too long a break to keep fans happy if all you're doing is taking time off to "just live your life."

EDIT: And to add to the above rant, Within Temptation's last album came out roughly the same time as Nightwish's. In the interrim, WT has released a live DVD/CD from their tour, a second live DVD from a follow-up accoustic theater tour, Robert and Sharon had a baby, and they lost their drummer. And their album is still due out a year ahead of Nightwish's!!

Adami · « **Reply #68 on:** May 12, 2010, 12:42:31 PM »

Maybe if we're looking he's gonna ask Floor to join nightwish and kick Anette out.

robwebster · « **Reply #69 on:** May 12, 2010, 12:47:05 PM »

Quote from: bösk1 on May 12, 2010, 12:06:36 PM

Again, I rarely complain about stuff like that, and I understand the need to take time off, but this is still a ridiculous delay. That will make it 4 years between albums.

Assuming it comes out on time, that is. Naturally.

Yeah, I more or less agree with you. I'm not that bothered in truth - I'll find other stuff in the interim - but it seems a bit much. The world is waiting.

News: Paralyzed official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7m7l8iqGAk

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