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Re: Edguy and Avantasia Discussion thread
« Reply #105 on: May 09, 2012, 09:25:54 AM »
Been a fan of Edguy for a few years now and just began my first Avantasia spin, chose to start with The Scarecrow pretty much because it always gets nothing but praise. I don't know why I've never listened to this before, I guess the idea of multiple vocalists used to put me off but it's actually really cool now that I'm listening to it.

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Re: Edguy and Avantasia Discussion thread
« Reply #106 on: May 09, 2012, 10:16:51 AM »
Much like Nick, I love Avantasia, but I'm completely indifferent to Edguy.
     

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Re: Edguy and Avantasia Discussion thread
« Reply #107 on: May 09, 2012, 11:25:00 AM »
Well, I got my first Avantasia album a couple of weeks ago. Wicked Symphony.
It's really not bad at all. Obviously I love the Kiske sung Wastelands, but to me, the best track on the album is Scales Of Justic. Ripper just..well..RIPS! :metal

Also, quite surprised to see Bruce Kulick and Eric Singer involved. Didin't realize that they were part of the European Power Metal "family".

This, I need to listen to wicked symphony again, been too long.
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Re: Edguy and Avantasia Discussion thread
« Reply #108 on: June 11, 2012, 03:36:19 PM »
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Re: Edguy and Avantasia Discussion thread
« Reply #109 on: June 11, 2012, 03:40:14 PM »
Thanks Nick - sorry for that fail.  :lol

Anyway, to repeat what I had said: I just watched their farewell concert from Wacken again. Great show and I'm kinda sad that they stopped being active, especially because I would have loved to see them live once.
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Re: Edguy and Avantasia Discussion thread
« Reply #110 on: June 11, 2012, 05:12:18 PM »
Much like Ayreon, that's a dream only a Euro can hold. Once you add in all the extra singers it would be pretty much impossible to tour America. But I do hope Avantasia tours again, and that Ayreon does do a few live shows at some point.

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Re: Edguy and Avantasia Discussion thread
« Reply #111 on: June 11, 2012, 11:34:51 PM »
I don't see why Tobi wouldn't bring Avantasia to the stage again, especially after the good comments and success over the last two.  Plus, comparing those to the latest Edguy is like comparing shit and chocolate, that was very ordinary.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #112 on: June 12, 2012, 01:38:37 AM »
Much like Ayreon, that's a dream only a Euro can hold. Once you add in all the extra singers it would be pretty much impossible to tour America. But I do hope Avantasia tours again, and that Ayreon does do a few live shows at some point.
Yeah, well I wouldn't mind, personally, because I am from Germany and I think that it would be given that they would play in Germany. But I can see how it wouldn't be financially feasible to tour outside of Europe.
I don't see why Tobi wouldn't bring Avantasia to the stage again, especially after the good comments and success over the last two.  Plus, comparing those to the latest Edguy is like comparing shit and chocolate, that was very ordinary.
Hell yes, I hope so. They haven't done an album that I dislike (Avantasia that is), so no complaints from me here.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #113 on: June 12, 2012, 04:13:11 AM »
I've had the feeling for a while now that Tobi saves his best material for Avantasia and Edguy get the leftovers.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #114 on: June 12, 2012, 04:15:48 AM »
I've had the feeling for a while now that Tobi saves his best material for Avantasia and Edguy get the leftovers.

It's been starting since Rocket Ride (even though that's a good album) and has been gettin worse ever since.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #115 on: June 12, 2012, 05:19:08 AM »
I've had the feeling for a while now that Tobi saves his best material for Avantasia and Edguy get the leftovers.

It's been starting since Rocket Ride (even though that's a good album) and has been gettin worse ever since.

Yeah, this, unfortunately. He brings the best out of Jorn on the Avantasia albums though.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #116 on: June 12, 2012, 05:54:36 AM »
I've had the feeling for a while now that Tobi saves his best material for Avantasia and Edguy get the leftovers.

It's been starting since Rocket Ride (even though that's a good album) and has been gettin worse ever since.

Yeah, this, unfortunately. He brings the best out of Jorn on the Avantasia albums though.

Yeah. I really like Jorn on Avantasia, though I don't like him on Masterplan at all.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #117 on: June 12, 2012, 06:17:09 AM »
I have Hellfire Club in my possession from when I bought it based upon a recommendation about seven years ago.  I was 14-15.  I really liked it then.

I really don't like it now.  I just listened to like three minutes of Mysteria and I was sad that I ever liked it as much as I did.  Power metal use to be my jam.  Now I can't stand any of it.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #118 on: June 13, 2012, 08:08:58 PM »
Mysteria is quite simply one of the greatest metal songs ever written in my opinion. So I definitely gotta disagree with you there man. :metal :metal

Love Edguy (Mandrake and Hellfire Club mostly) but still need to check out Avantasia (I do like a few songs off of The Wicked Symphony though)
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #119 on: June 14, 2012, 09:56:12 AM »
Do it. Start with The Scarecrow, one of the best power metal albums of all time.

You can thank me later.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #120 on: June 14, 2012, 01:35:57 PM »
Do it. Start with The Scarecrow, one of the best power metal albums of all time.

You can thank me later.

I'll second that. The first album is a corker too.

Listened to Joker again today and enjoyed it whilst it was playing. As soon as it was over I couldn't remember a single chorus or part. On the good side, Rocket Ride was like that for me and I love it now.

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Re: Edguy and Avantasia Discussion thread
« Reply #121 on: June 14, 2012, 01:45:32 PM »
Much like Nick, I love Avantasia, but I'm completely indifferent to Edguy.

Never really could get into Edguy the same way I've gotten into Avantasia

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Re: Edguy and Avantasia Discussion thread
« Reply #122 on: June 14, 2012, 02:02:31 PM »
Much like Nick, I love Avantasia, but I'm completely indifferent to Edguy.

Never really could get into Edguy the same way I've gotten into Avantasia
Same here. Edguy is just generic power metal to me.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #123 on: June 14, 2012, 02:04:47 PM »
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #124 on: June 14, 2012, 02:10:54 PM »
You're such a hipster, liking Avantasia but not liking Edguy before it was cool. (U c what I did thar?)
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #125 on: June 14, 2012, 02:46:59 PM »
The Flying Opera just arrived in the mail today.  I've seen the YT version, but it was awfully static-y.  Can't wait for everyone to leave tomorrow so I can crank the surround sound and watch for a bit.
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #126 on: August 06, 2012, 07:29:45 PM »
From Tobias' website.

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NEW AVANTASIA EPIC IN THE MAKING!
What many have recently been speculating about we're now happy to confirm. Tobias is indeed working on a new AVANTASIA epic that is planned to be released in spring 2013. Concept wise the album will be a classic Rock-Opera / Metal Opera. It's going to be a timeless fairytale, that despite its fantasy appeal, was inspired by happenings of our modern age and society. You‘ll find plenty of further details here at tobiassammet.com in the near future.

Originally Tobias wanted to lay AVANTASIA to rest after the release of its live DVD "Flying Opera" in April 2011, which topped the charts in Germany, Austria and Sweden and went Top 10 all over Europe, respectively after its headliner appearance at Wacken Open Air 2011 in front of more than 100,000 fans. About the surprising return of AVANTASIA Tobias says:

"Even though I love to record and tour with Edguy, I didn‘t foresee how much I need AVANTASIA when I decided to finish this chapter of my life in 2011. I didn't know if there would be another AVANTASIA album one day, but I didn‘t feel like doing it. After the worldwide success of the latest studio releases, an arena world tour that was sold out pretty much everywhere, collaborations with childhood heroes like Alice Cooper, Klaus Meine, Rudolf Schenker, Eric Singer of Kiss etc. I 'knew' that I had said everything I could possibly say in the name of AVANTASIA. But that's not what AVANTASIA is all about. I wanna create more great music, I wanna create more fantasy-worlds, the bigger and the more epic, the better. And listening to the material that I have created for this forthcoming chapter in the history of AVANTASIA, I know there is no way, I am not going to do it! I have got the feeling and the certainty, that this is absolutely meant to happen and to be! - Cheerz, Tobi"


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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #127 on: August 07, 2012, 12:29:12 AM »
Awesome!

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #128 on: August 07, 2012, 12:46:09 AM »
Fuck yes!  :metal :metal
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #129 on: August 07, 2012, 04:26:55 AM »
Looks like the latest Edguy flop was what Tobi needed to realise that Avantasia is now where his calling is.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #130 on: August 07, 2012, 04:53:23 AM »
I've never been that much into Edguy, aside from a few songs. Avantasia is where it's at.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #131 on: August 07, 2012, 04:59:00 AM »
When Avantasia first started, both bands were pretty equal in quality, just Avantasia was always a little more exciting.  Now, Edguy are on the decline, while Avantasia are the total opposite.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #133 on: August 07, 2012, 01:54:26 PM »
There's no reason why Edguy needs to be the poor cousin other than Toby must be saving the better songs for Avantasia. The bands' styles are similar, the musicians up to the job. The only real difference is the concept and the fact that Toby sings everything with Edguy.

I'm quite happy with both to exist but the Edguy album needs to have the same "love" put into it or that will change.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #134 on: August 07, 2012, 03:34:29 PM »
There's no reason why Edguy needs to be the poor cousin other than Toby must be saving the better songs for Avantasia. The bands' styles are similar, the musicians up to the job. The only real difference is the concept and the fact that Toby sings everything with Edguy.

I'm quite happy with both to exist but the Edguy album needs to have the same "love" put into it or that will change.

I agree with this totally.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #135 on: November 25, 2012, 05:28:37 AM »
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Tobias' tour management is currently working on a headlining indoor tour for Avantasia in April. They will also play a few chosen summer festivals, and a South American and Asian tour is planned for late summer.

Tobias comments: "I know I once said we weren't gonna do it again, but then I don‘t see a reason to let this die.  I wanna put on the biggest thing you have ever seen, I wanna bring more vocalists, play longer shows, and just make it a giant Rock Opera. I love to headline festivals, you run over people in 90 minutes and kick ass. But I also like to do our own Avantasia indoor tour because we can make it much more Avantasia oriented and play almost three hours without caring about anything else but Avantasia. So we said, we have to do a giant indoor tour as well, and it's going to happen in April. I am so looking forward to it. The stage designer has just showed me his stage and light design, and it looks absolutely killer.  It will be huge. 2013 will be a major year for Avantasia, and people don't have a clue how big things are actually going to be! I am very excited - the album will be amazingly epic, and the tour will be too!" 

Tourdates will be announced soon here at tobiassammet.com!

I can only pray that there's something for North America... but I highly doubt it.  And that will make me rage!
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #136 on: November 25, 2012, 09:04:18 AM »
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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #137 on: November 25, 2012, 06:41:13 PM »
I am excite.
     

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #138 on: November 25, 2012, 06:42:42 PM »
I'm excited at a likely DVD at some point, but I know this will never hit NYC or anything so meh.

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Re: The official Avantasia and Edguy thread
« Reply #139 on: November 30, 2012, 07:16:46 AM »
I'm feeling a rage coming on. 

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AVANTASIA LIVE IN FRANCE
Good news again: AVANTASIA are confirmed to play their first ever show in France! Amongst bands such as KISS, Korn and Twisted Sister, AVANTASIA will hit the stage at Hellfest in Clisson to play a 90-minutes headlining show!

Tobias comments: "It's amazing. We are working on this great album which is scheduled to be out in late March by the way, and I have such a great feeling about it as the first tracks sound really huge. Now, we have announced that we'll do a little tour and all of the sudden we're getting the opportunity to headline shows and festivals all over the world! Czech Republic, England, France, Belgium... A lot of first time AVANTASIA appearances. But this is not it! More dates are being scheduled. In April we'll do Europe. Our own tour, doing 2 - 3 hours! No support act, just AVANTASIA in arenas and theaters. Further information and dates coming soon."

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AVANTASIA LIVE IN ENGLAND
After having been confirmed as next year's headlining act of Masters Of Rock Festival (Czech Republic) and Power Prog Festival (Belgium), Avantasia are also confirmed to hit the stage at Bloodstock Festival in England. These shows are going to mark Avantasia's first appearances in England and Belgium. Guests, information about the forthcoming album and further tourdates will be announced soon! So stay tuned!

"Our own tour, doing 2 - 3 hours! No support act, just AVANTASIA in arenas and theaters."    :omg:  Seriously... gonna rage if there's nothing in NA.
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