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« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2011, 12:06:28 PM »
My grips were not from the Bourne-like cuts but the storytelling aspect. Scenes would show one thing then jump to a completely different thing and you have to assume what happened. I know movies that do that kind of stuff well but it was done very haphazardly.

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« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2011, 12:08:24 PM »
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« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2011, 12:17:08 PM »
My grips were not from the Bourne-like cuts but the storytelling aspect. Scenes would show one thing then jump to a completely different thing and you have to assume what happened. I know movies that do that kind of stuff well but it was done very haphazardly.
My gripes are with both of those things. You can't see a damn thing in the action scenes.

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« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2011, 12:19:41 PM »
The worst offender was one of the very last scene when he drops the bad guy off in the desert. I forget the exact setup but it was like they were in the car, he lets the guy out, says something that leads up to some big thing, then the next thing you see is him driving back to pick up the chick. There were several different options of what could've happened but the movie played it off like "eh this was your bad guy but whatever".

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« Reply #74 on: January 12, 2011, 01:30:02 PM »
My grips were not from the Bourne-like cuts but the storytelling aspect. Scenes would show one thing then jump to a completely different thing and you have to assume what happened. I know movies that do that kind of stuff well but it was done very haphazardly.
My gripes are with both of those things. You can't see a damn thing in the action scenes.

I hear everyone complaining about the action scenes in QoS, but the only scene where it was confusing (imo) was the opening car chase. Besides that, everything else was pretty clear cut from what I could tell.
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« Reply #75 on: January 12, 2011, 04:36:35 PM »
I think Timothy Dalton is a most underrated Bond. It's a shame he was only in two films.

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« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2011, 08:32:24 PM »
I think Timothy Dalton is a most underrated Bond. It's a shame he was only in two films.
I definitely agree. He was fantastic in the role, but had the misfortune of getting weak scripts. The Living Daylights, which actually turned out quite well considering, was mostly written before they had cast Dalton, and License To Kill was written to cash in by emulating the kind of action films that were popular at the time.
Then, finally, they wrote Goldeneye for him, but MGM had some financial troubles, the film was delayed, and Dalton decided to move on.

He did a fantastic job considering the material he was given to work with.

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« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2011, 06:41:17 AM »
For those who do not know, MGM has finally got the green light to make Bond 23. Craig is to return. I don't know if they have any other confirmed casting since you honestly cannot be too certain however I'm thinking Dench will definitely return as you can tell she has fun with the role even though it is literally a fraction of the percent of the talent she possesses. Would love to see Jeffery Wright again. I'm not a big fan of this newer reincarnation of Bond but cannot seem to pull away from it.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2011, 06:59:10 AM »
Looking forward to the next Bond-movie, i like Craig as Bond.  :tup

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« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2011, 07:22:44 AM »
Looking forward to the next Bond-movie, i like Craig as Bond.  :tup

same here, although quantum of solace was quite disappointing.
casino royale was amazing.  :tup

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« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2011, 10:34:21 AM »
For those who do not know, MGM has finally got the green light to make Bond 23. Craig is to return. I don't know if they have any other confirmed casting since you honestly cannot be too certain however I'm thinking Dench will definitely return as you can tell she has fun with the role even though it is literally a fraction of the percent of the talent she possesses. Would love to see Jeffery Wright again. I'm not a big fan of this newer reincarnation of Bond but cannot seem to pull away from it.
I posted a link about it on the previous page :P

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« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2011, 10:56:27 AM »
They're showing You Only Live Twice on TV tonight here. I don't think I've seen it before.

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« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2011, 11:23:38 AM »
I know Quantum of Solace got a lot of complaints, but i don't really have a problem with it.
Sure, i probably prefer Casino Royale over it, but i still thought it was enjoyable. :P

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« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2011, 12:27:14 PM »
For those who do not know, MGM has finally got the green light to make Bond 23. Craig is to return. I don't know if they have any other confirmed casting since you honestly cannot be too certain however I'm thinking Dench will definitely return as you can tell she has fun with the role even though it is literally a fraction of the percent of the talent she possesses. Would love to see Jeffery Wright again. I'm not a big fan of this newer reincarnation of Bond but cannot seem to pull away from it.
I posted a link about it on the previous page :P

http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=11105.msg738079#msg738079

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« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2011, 12:28:04 PM »
They're showing You Only Live Twice on TV tonight here. I don't think I've seen it before.

I would go so far to say it is the weakest of the Connery movies as I did like Thunderball better.
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« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2011, 01:07:39 PM »
They're showing You Only Live Twice on TV tonight here. I don't think I've seen it before.

I would go so far to say it is the weakest of the Connery movies as I did like Thunderball better.
I'd personally rank it above Thunderball and Diamonds Are Forever, though I'm very aware that most people would rank Thunderball higher.
Certainly worth seeing at least once.

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I know Quantum of Solace got a lot of complaints, but i don't really have a problem with it.
Sure, i probably prefer Casino Royale over it, but i still thought it was enjoyable.
I will say, at least in my opinion, in spite of all of its problems, it's still better than Die Another Day.
Man Die Another Day was horrible.

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« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2011, 02:12:49 PM »
Sure, i probably prefer Casino Royale over it, but i still thought it was enjoyable.
I will say, at least in my opinion, in spite of all of its problems, it's still better than Die Another Day.
Man Die Another Day was horrible.
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One of my biggest complains in Die Another Day (boy can anyone come up a lot with that movie) is the beginning. If you are going to get Bond captured by the North Korean army do yourself a favor and 1) do not invent teleportation as your only means of getting your army to Bond and 2) do not just change the rules of the Demilitarized Zone so you can get your army to Bond. When it comes to the first point, if I'm not mistaken Bond and the bad guy entered the DMZ about 2 or 3 minutes AFTER the General said he'd be there in 5 minutes. If we assume the hovercrafts Bond and Villain use were travelling just as fast as the trucks (which is not impossible to believe) it is impossible for the NK army to have reached Bond seconds after the villain goes over the cliff. They would have realistically been minutes behind him.

But nitpicking that detail is irrelevant when you realize that an entire North Korean squad just went a couple miles INTO the DMZ!!! What....the...fuck?!?! Thanks to that suicidal General the North Korean Army has just magically learned how to avoid the mines and march their army across the DMZ. So much for the Villain's idea of using hovercraft.  :facepalm:
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« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2011, 02:22:26 PM »
Well, that and the whole windsurfing-away-from-a-space-laser-on-a-jetcar-windshield part.
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« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2011, 03:08:31 PM »
I'm the biggest Bond fan in the world, and somehow late to this thread. To catch up, I've read every post on it lol. To recap:

- Lazenby was a horrible actor in a great film.
- Quantum sucked because of the noob director, and competition to the Bourne films
- Dalton kicks ass, shame what happened to his time as 007
- Quantum makes Moonraker look like Goldfinger

My Top 5 Bond films (in no particular order):

The Spy Who Loved Me
Casino Royale
The Living Daylights
Thunderball
The World Is Not Enough

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« Reply #89 on: January 13, 2011, 03:20:29 PM »
Looks like I've got the common opinion that Casino Royale was amazing and Quantum Of Solace wasn't (though I don't know if I hated it like some people seem to, I just thought it was boring).

Haven't seen any of the original Bonds since I was young and had them all on video though  :sad:

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« Reply #90 on: January 13, 2011, 05:43:00 PM »
Quantum makes Moonraker look like Goldfinger

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« Reply #91 on: January 13, 2011, 05:45:10 PM »
People really liked Dalton? I distinctly remember watching License To Kill and thinking to myself how bad the acting was from everyone. I couldn't even finish the movie.

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« Reply #92 on: January 13, 2011, 07:13:13 PM »
If I were to list my top 5 I would list the following

Goldfinger
From Russia With Love
For Your Eyes Only
Goldeneye
The Spy Who Loved Me.
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« Reply #93 on: January 13, 2011, 07:33:45 PM »
People really liked Dalton? I distinctly remember watching License To Kill and thinking to myself how bad the acting was from everyone. I couldn't even finish the movie.
License To Kill had a fairly weak script, but Dalton was good in it. He's basically the entire reason LTK is watchable, and why The Living Daylights turned out pretty well.

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« Reply #94 on: January 13, 2011, 07:46:23 PM »
I didn't find the script to License to Kill weak in the least, in fact I found it quite neat. It was a different fare than the previous Bond films but Maibaum was on a roll from For Your Eyes Only with the exception of View to a Kill (which was just utterly boring. Good idea but just boring) If I could list Bond movies with weak scripts I would list the following

Moonraker (Yet I still loved it)
Live and Let Die (albeit still a good movie)
The Man with the Golden Gun (same as above)
Die Another Day (Good sword fighting scene though)
Quantum of Solace


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« Reply #95 on: January 13, 2011, 08:05:21 PM »
You forgot Diamonds are Forever. Fucking piece of garbage.

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« Reply #96 on: January 13, 2011, 09:00:37 PM »
I really don't understand the criticisms of the editing in QoS. I feel like I was watching a different movie from everyone else or something.
I was at a friend's house and he wanted to see for the first time QoS. Before the movie started I said "Too bad the editing is unbereable". He wanted to kill me for pointing that out, lol. Every shot in the opening sequence cuts every 0.5 secs.

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« Reply #97 on: January 13, 2011, 09:10:08 PM »
I really don't understand the criticisms of the editing in QoS. I feel like I was watching a different movie from everyone else or something.
I was at a friend's house and he wanted to see for the first time QoS. Before the movie started I said "Too bad the editing is unbereable". He wanted to kill me for pointing that out, lol. Every shot in the opening sequence cuts every 0.5 secs.

The opening sequence is terribly edited, but thats the only scene thats bothersome as far as I can tell.
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« Reply #98 on: January 13, 2011, 09:25:31 PM »
QoS had a really great scene where Bond and Greene run into each other, face to face, after the opera, the sound goes mute and then a desperate escape/fight occurs, paralleling the events in Tosca. The music takes precedence over the sound of the chase and the everything happens in slo-mo, only amplifying the frenzy. The whole sequence had me on the edge the whole time, every time I watch it. Beauty and brilliance!!!

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« Reply #99 on: January 14, 2011, 04:17:28 PM »
You forgot Diamonds are Forever. Fucking piece of garbage.

You are right. The screenplay for that one is just as bad. It's an enjoyable movie nonetheless and is literally a target zone of Austin Power's jokes, but yes, this screenplay is pretty bad as well.
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« Reply #100 on: January 14, 2011, 11:43:00 PM »
The book isn't really all that interesting either.

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« Reply #101 on: January 15, 2011, 12:20:18 AM »
seen almost all the bonds....

In my opinion, SC was the best Bond personality, but PB has the best Bond look.

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« Reply #102 on: November 25, 2011, 09:03:34 AM »
So, we have a new Q:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0924210/

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« Reply #103 on: November 25, 2011, 10:26:09 AM »
So, we have a new Q:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0924210/

Edit: I guess I should include a source on that:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15889689

wtf? Just bring back Cleese. He was the best part of Die Another Day. Perfect replacement for Desmond.

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« Reply #104 on: November 25, 2011, 10:45:15 AM »
Teleportation?  Really?

Never saw QoS,  but I really didn't like CR, and everything I've heard is that QoS was even worse with the pointless action sequences.

Quite frankly,  the entire franchise jumped the shark with Moonraker, and everything thereafter has been passable, at best.  Goldeneye probably topped them after that,  and even that wasn't really what I want to see in a Bond movie. 

- Lazenby was a horrible actor in a great film.
I thought precisely the opposite.  I was real cool with Lazenby,  I just didn't like the movie. 



edit: it just occurred to me that FYEO came after Moonraker.  That's one of my very favorite Bond movies,  so I guess the shark jumping isn't exactly accurate.
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