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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #560 on: May 26, 2016, 05:07:23 AM »
Yeah, cant'imagine Bond going 'You Motherfucker....'
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« Reply #561 on: May 26, 2016, 06:22:34 AM »
Well, if there's no problem with a black Bond, then there should be no issues with JANE BOND...

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/24/jane-bond-gillian-anderson-next-007-twitter

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« Reply #562 on: May 26, 2016, 06:28:05 AM »
That's different to having a British Bond who's got dark skin. He can still be a British male Secret Agent.

Making Bond female completely changes everything about the character and shouldn't be done just to be PC and progressive.
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« Reply #563 on: May 26, 2016, 06:42:11 AM »
James Bond is and should always be a man. This world is ridiculous. How about someone invent a new female spy character and make a movie about rather than trying to reinvent a franchise that's been established for 40 years?

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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #564 on: May 26, 2016, 07:16:09 AM »
James Bond is and should always be a man. This world is ridiculous. How about someone invent a new female spy character and make a movie about rather than trying to reinvent a franchise that's been established for 40 years?

I agree. James Bond is a character with defined attributes after 40 years, one of those being that it's a dude (and possibly more controversial to say, but also white). Just because you could change it, doesn't mean you necessarily should. I think it would make a bigger statement for equality for a woman to establish their own franchise without needing to rely on an existing brand. Personally, I don't care if your lead is male or female, but I do care that James Bond is James f'ing Bond.
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« Reply #565 on: May 26, 2016, 07:58:35 AM »
I think it's a bit silly to suggest that the only possible reason to pick a black actor to play Bond, would be as a 'token pc progressive' move.
What if there's a black actor who would just happen to be an excellent Bond?

If anyone thinks picking Idris Elba would be just a 'token' pick, they should go watch the show Luther. The main reason he should be in contention for the role is simply that he would be an awesome Bond.

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« Reply #566 on: May 26, 2016, 09:28:30 AM »
The only reason Ghostbusters 3 is being made and not Melissa McCarthy stars in " Paranormal Investigators! " is that they can capitalise on the Ghostbusters brand name.

They know more people will go see Ghostbusters 3 than some random screwball comedy with 4 female leads.

And screaming sexism when nobody goes to see it is a HUGE straw man argument.



And i'm pretty sure they'd only make a female James Bond for the same reason. it would have heaps more exposure than say " Female Spy Movie ! ".

I say make the next Lara Croft a man and see how people react to that.
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« Reply #567 on: May 27, 2016, 03:20:25 AM »
The only reason Ghostbusters 3 is being made and not Melissa McCarthy stars in " Paranormal Investigators! " is that they can capitalise on the Ghostbusters brand name.

They know more people will go see Ghostbusters 3 than some random screwball comedy with 4 female leads.

And screaming sexism when nobody goes to see it is a HUGE straw man argument.



And i'm pretty sure they'd only make a female James Bond for the same reason. it would have heaps more exposure than say " Female Spy Movie ! ".

I say make the next Lara Croft a man and see how people react to that.
This is perhaps a different discussion but it's something that always bothers me when people talk about the new Ghostbusters: whether or not the new movie looks good or bad, I have absolutely no problem with an all female cast. I mean come one, how many Hollywood movies do we have made by men, with men, for men? If it takes capitalizing a known title to be able to get some well deserved female actors to actually star their own film, then so be it. Until Hollywood lets women direct and star movies in the same capacity as men, then fucking let them do this.

And that's just about the same reason I think it'd be awesome with an female Bond. Not to mention, I actually happen to think it would be an interesting shift and would make for some great storylines.
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« Reply #568 on: May 27, 2016, 03:32:18 AM »
Yeah I'm not liking that idea at all. It's like making a movie about my life but casting a girl as me. I've got nothing against girls in general, but that would upset me.
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« Reply #569 on: May 27, 2016, 09:07:34 AM »
I wouldn't have a problem with this choice though. Not a perfect choice, but fix him up, put him in a tux and have him do cool shit and I guess I could see it happening.

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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #570 on: May 27, 2016, 09:25:34 AM »
Looks a bit young to me, but I guess they could do worse.
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« Reply #571 on: May 27, 2016, 11:06:17 AM »
Until Hollywood lets women direct and star movies in the same capacity as men, then fucking let them do this.
And that's just about the same reason I think it'd be awesome with an female Bond. Not to mention, I actually happen to think it would be an interesting shift and would make for some great storylines.
As far as I know, no one is stopping them or disallowing that. Convince the studios to fund your movie and make it good, people will see it regardless of the genitals of the director. Equal opportunities != equal outcome. Not to mention that maybe, just maybe, women in general aren't as interested in pursuing that career choice so there will be less of them that are good enough. Think of how many male directors/writers there are and how many of them are actually good and well known. Hell, even Scorsece had tough time funding The Irishman. Just make new movies and stories, don't lazily try to reskin existing ones.

I would be more interested in seeing Anderson in a more serious spy movie, something like Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. I absolutely loved her in The Fall.

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« Reply #572 on: May 27, 2016, 11:11:16 AM »
Looks a bit young to me, but I guess they could do worse.

Yeah he's definetely on the younger side. But at least we know that James Bond was young at some point, so that's not really messing with the character as much as the other stuff being talked about.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #573 on: May 27, 2016, 11:19:07 AM »
Looks a bit young to me, but I guess they could do worse.

Yeah he's definetely on the younger side. But at least we know that James Bond was young at some point, so that's not really messing with the character as much as the other stuff being talked about.

I agree, it wouldn't be a big deal to me like these other suggestions. I'm just used to the older, more experienced version of Bond.
Also, I don't know if they'll have the new Bond movie continue directly on from Craig in terms of storyline, or do a soft reboot by keeping all of the characters the same but not directly mentioning the events of the Craig movies, but if that's the case, it might make sense to have someone who's not too much younger. There's almost a 20 year gap between Craig and Bell.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #574 on: May 27, 2016, 12:09:14 PM »
What if they make the new Bond set in the 70s/80s? Could be fun.

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« Reply #575 on: May 27, 2016, 02:57:51 PM »
The Tom Hiddleston rumors are really heating up. He is supposedly in advanced talks to become the next Bond. I'm certainly not buying it yet, but after watching The Night Manager, I think he would be an excellent choice.

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« Reply #576 on: May 27, 2016, 04:25:38 PM »
I agree. That choice would make me happy.
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« Reply #577 on: May 28, 2016, 10:57:04 AM »
I think it's a bit silly to suggest that the only possible reason to pick a black actor to play Bond, would be as a 'token pc progressive' move.
What if there's a black actor who would just happen to be an excellent Bond?

If anyone thinks picking Idris Elba would be just a 'token' pick, they should go watch the show Luther. The main reason he should be in contention for the role is simply that he would be an awesome Bond.

The problem is that Bond is such a defined character that picking anything other than a white actor would turn the film(s) into a reimagining instead of continuation. I could see many people not considering them real Bond films and it wouldn't have anything to do with them being a bigot or not progress enough but due to the fact that a major part of an incredibly famous character has changed.

On a side note I do need to check out Luther as I've heard great things about it.

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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #578 on: July 13, 2016, 03:42:15 PM »
Hey if an all female Ghostbusters is ok then a black Bond is definitely ok.
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #579 on: July 15, 2016, 06:53:55 AM »
You should check out Luther. It's a great show.
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« Reply #580 on: July 15, 2016, 06:55:18 AM »
Hey if an all female Ghostbusters is ok then a black Bond is definitely ok.

But the all female Ghostbusters has definitely not been ok. :lol
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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #581 on: March 20, 2017, 08:50:25 AM »
I just watched SPECTRE's opening credits with its originally intended song of the same name by Radiohead. Chilling and beautiful in my opinion. Despite it being darker than most james bond opening themes, I wish they would have kept it.
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« Reply #582 on: March 20, 2017, 09:39:36 AM »
I'm at a point where I've had enough of Daniel Craig's Bond.   I love Casino Royale it's not just a great Bond film, it's a great film period.  But after that it's been lackluster - I don't love Skyfall as much and many do (a middling Bond film for me) and Quantum and Spectre I didn't really like much at all.

I guess the problem they have now is if they go for a new actor do they continue the Craig storylines or do another soft reboot.   I'd go for Dan Stevens personally.

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« Reply #583 on: March 20, 2017, 09:45:13 AM »
Dan Stevens is great, never really thought about him but yeah he could probably pull of Bond. Didn't even know he was british.
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« Reply #584 on: March 20, 2017, 12:08:37 PM »
I love DC as Bond, he's practically tied with Sean as the best IMO. I hope he does a couple more to finish off the Spectre/Blofeld story in the right way.

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« Reply #585 on: March 20, 2017, 12:09:49 PM »
I'm sure once he's had time off from it and offered a fuck ton of cash he'll be back.

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« Reply #586 on: March 20, 2017, 12:11:56 PM »
The mayor of Dubrovnik, Croatia confirmed that Eon are in advanced negotiations to film the next one there. Same city that Game of Thrones uses for King's Landing.

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« Reply #587 on: March 20, 2017, 12:14:20 PM »
That means zilch to me since i've seen precisely 0 minutes of Game Of Thrones :D
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« Reply #588 on: March 20, 2017, 12:17:21 PM »
That means zilch to me since i've seen precisely 0 minutes of Game Of Thrones :D

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« Reply #589 on: March 20, 2017, 12:18:57 PM »
Not from what i've heard.

" You should watch it ! its full of tits, fucking swearing and fighting "

 :|...yeah i'll pass...

I watched one episode of a BBC drama about Rome once and that's literally all it was. Fucking. Nudity. Swearing and Fighting.

They probably forgot to write a plot around it I expect. :hat
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« Reply #590 on: March 20, 2017, 12:21:46 PM »
I love it cuz it's a well-made show with good writing.

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« Reply #591 on: March 20, 2017, 12:27:26 PM »
 :biggrin: It may well be.

Truth is I am not a fan of serials. I never have been. At least whilst they're showing. My bro used to watch a lot of them and he hated having to wait a year or more to find out what happened...

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Re: The James Bond Thread
« Reply #592 on: March 20, 2017, 05:05:08 PM »
I love Daniel Craig as Bond, but Casino Royale was easily the best one. Skyfall was okay. The other two, I'll probably never watch again.


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« Reply #593 on: March 20, 2017, 05:06:09 PM »
I love Daniel Craig as Bond, but Casino Royale was easily the best one. Skyfall was okay. The other two, I'll probably never watch again.

One day I will get all 25 Bond Movies in a boxset. I need to re-watch OHMSS as 50% say it's dogshit and 50% say it's the best one :biggrin:

I've seen it once which is rare for me since I love Bond and have seen them all multiple times.
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« Reply #594 on: March 20, 2017, 05:30:33 PM »
OHMSS is kind of all over the place. The evil scheme is a dream mind control plot which is way out there and then you have bond running around in a kilt pretending to be someone else, even though blofeld should recognize him. Kojak blofeld by the way  :lol

BUT that god damn ending scene... holy shit  :hefdaddy   They had the balls to do what SPECTRE should have done. I mean, its on the damn poster and everything...

But ultimately, I like OHMSS. Its a cool, wildly different addition to the franchise
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