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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2010, 12:47:09 PM »
I think Lazenby gets more flack than he deserves. He was actually pretty good. Not the best, but still pretty good.
Personally, I'd pick him to play James Bond over Moore any day.

Also did you guys know that Bond might be definitely cancelled due to no one buying the rights from MGM Studios?
While it will definitely be on hold for a while because of this, the Bond franchise is too financially valuable to die. Even if no one buys MGM, someone will eventually buy the rights to the franchise. I just hope they do it in time to still have Craig in the role. It would be a huge shame for QoS to be his last bond film.

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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2010, 01:19:54 PM »
Lazenby was all right.

If anyone wants to get into James Bond, all the Connery movies and OHMSS (watched in chronological order) follow a basic overarching plot.

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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2010, 01:25:46 PM »
Also did you guys know that Bond might be definitely cancelled due to no one buying the rights from MGM Studios?
While it will definitely be on hold for a while because of this, the Bond franchise is too financially valuable to die. Even if no one buys MGM, someone will eventually buy the rights to the franchise. I just hope they do it in time to still have Craig in the role. It would be a huge shame for QoS to be his last bond film.
Agreed. Casino Royale was excellent, but the only good thing about Quantum of Solace was Olga Kurylenko. Hopefully they can turn it around with Craig still in the role.

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« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2010, 01:39:31 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2010, 05:33:30 PM »
Also did you guys know that Bond might be definitely cancelled due to no one buying the rights from MGM Studios?
While it will definitely be on hold for a while because of this, the Bond franchise is too financially valuable to die. Even if no one buys MGM, someone will eventually buy the rights to the franchise. I just hope they do it in time to still have Craig in the role. It would be a huge shame for QoS to be his last bond film.
Agreed. Casino Royale was excellent, but the only good thing about Quantum of Solace was Olga Kurylenko. Hopefully they can turn it around with Craig still in the role.

I agree, I would love to see what they do with Rachel Weiss as the villain. Furthermore, I would hate to see Craig's career end so poorly, similar to Dalton.

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« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2010, 06:07:30 PM »
Come to think about it, that would be strikingly similar to what happened to Dalton.
Great actor, relatively weak second film because of the script (though License To Kill was better than QoS IMO), and a hiatus due to MGM having financial problems. It was really unfortunate for Dalton, since he was originally supposed to be in Goldeneye. Now that would have been great.

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« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2010, 06:12:58 PM »
Really? The one thing I remember about License To Kill was the acting was atrocious and the script sucked. I could only sit through half of it. Maybe I was thinking of the acting of the other people?

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« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2010, 09:49:31 PM »
What confused me most about License to Kill was that the scene with Felix Lieter being fed to the sharks was supposed to be in the book Live and Let Die and not with sharks but with alligators...

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« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2010, 12:17:53 AM »
Really? The one thing I remember about License To Kill was the acting was atrocious and the script sucked. I could only sit through half of it. Maybe I was thinking of the acting of the other people?
Well keep in mind that I'm only saying it was better than QoS. Dalton and Craig were still great in their respective films, but both of those movies are fairly weak. LTK had some good moments to contrast the bad ones, while QoS had far fewer highlights.

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« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2010, 08:02:09 AM »
I thought the editing of QoS was horrible though no one else seems to. Some scene cuts were so badly paced and executed. We all agree it wasn't a very good movie, though.

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« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2010, 02:37:22 PM »
I thought the editing of QoS was horrible though no one else seems to. Some scene cuts were so badly paced and executed. We all agree it wasn't a very good movie, though.

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« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2010, 05:10:04 PM »
I thought the editing of QoS was horrible though no one else seems to. Some scene cuts were so badly paced and executed. We all agree it wasn't a very good movie, though.
I mainly hated the Bourne-style action scenes where you can't even see anything.

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« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2010, 08:30:58 PM »
I thought the editing of QoS was horrible though no one else seems to. Some scene cuts were so badly paced and executed. We all agree it wasn't a very good movie, though.
I mainly hated the Bourne-style action scenes where you can't even see anything.
This was definitely one of the main problems. In most of the action scenes, you could barely tell what was happening.
The editing overall was indeed pretty poor.

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« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2010, 09:32:37 PM »
I love Craig as bond, and Casino Royale, but QoS suffered severly from "Shitty American Editing Syndrome" (See, A-Team) My favorite bonds are easily Connery and Craig, though.
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« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2010, 10:07:36 PM »
James Bond with Pierce Brosnan was a huge part of my childhood. I love James Bond movies.
This. Maybe it's because I'm too young, but when someone names 007 I instantly think about Brosnan in Tomorrow Never Dies.

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« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2010, 10:27:10 PM »
Catching up:

Lazenby was a great Bond in a poorly done film.  He got a raw deal, IMO.  Somebody mentioned the bobsled chase, which is one of the bigger problems I have with it.  Blofeld is not an action guy.  He's an evil genius and blasting down the mountain in a running gun battle diminished him. 

Thunderball was the weakest of the Connery films.  The underwater sequences just dragged on.

The first half of Casino Royale was unbearable.  The second half was real good as they'd gotten most of the action hero nonsense out of the way. 

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« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2010, 03:35:23 AM »


Lazenby was a great Bond in a poorly done film. 



I will sadly disagree with you on Lazenby. He was a model, not an actor, IMO. His portrayal as Bond was forced, awkward at points and felt too much like a stuck up Brit rather than a suave, seductive Brit. Actually, I would say the Vice Versa, cause the movie had a thicker plotline than most and really brought out Bond's emotional side (ie: the marriage bit)

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« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2010, 01:18:58 PM »
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« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2010, 03:26:30 PM »
I think at least potentially, Nolan directing a bond film starring Craig could be a perfect fit.

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« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2010, 07:50:48 PM »
I would definitely see a Nolan-directed Bond film  :corn

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« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2011, 04:49:59 PM »
MGM green lights next Bond film:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12168421

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A new James Bond film has been given the go-ahead and is due to be released on 9 November 2012, film studio MGM and EON Productions have announced.

Producers Michael Wilson and Barbara Broccoli and MGM said the 23rd Bond would go into production in late 2011.

The latest 007 adventure, starring Daniel Craig for the third time, will be directed by Oscar winner Sam Mendes.

The franchise had been on hold amid financial troubles, with MGM filing for bankruptcy protection last November.

A rescue deal and restructuring plan put US firm Spyglass Entertainment at the helm of MGM, which had struggled due to several box office flops and a DVD sales slump.

Work on the 23rd film was suspended in April 2010 because of uncertainty over the company's future.

James Bond is one of the longest running franchises in film history.

Its return marks a four-year hiatus for Bond since his last adventure, 2008's Quantum of Solace.

Daniel Craig - who made his Bond debut in Casino Royale in 2006 - is the sixth actor to play the British secret agent on the big screen, after Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan.

His first outing, in Casino Royale, was the most successful instalment in the franchise's 48-year history, taking $594m (£385m) at the global box office.

The latest Bond screenplay has been written by Neal Purvis, Robert Wade and John Logan.

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« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2011, 05:05:43 PM »
Sam Mendes?

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« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2011, 08:33:17 PM »
Sam Mendes is definitely an interesting choice to direct. This could be a very good thing.

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« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2011, 09:29:58 PM »
Just watched QoS a few days ago for the second time (1st in theaters). Definately didnt hate it as much as I did when I first saw. Probably due to me expecting it to top CR.
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« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2011, 10:10:47 PM »
QoS was pretty disappointing (aside from getting to look at Olga Kurylenko), but if the next one is even close to measuring up to Casino Royale, I'll be happy. Casino Royale was the best Bond movie in a very, very long time.

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« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2011, 11:26:18 PM »
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« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2011, 11:38:04 PM »
I still don't know how they fucked up so badly with QoS. I mean, Casino Royale was a huge critical and commercial success as far as the franchise goes. So naturally, they abandoned many of the key elements that made Casino Royale good.
They even set themselves up extremely well in CR, and still managed to fuck it all up.

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« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2011, 12:42:48 AM »
Bad editing was the big killer. The story wasn't too great either, though.

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« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2011, 04:04:43 AM »
The biggest problem is that there is no other Bond film that acts as a sequel. Sure, in some of the movies there are references to past events (ie: death of his wife), but never were any of them seen as pt. 2 or a sequel to another movie. That's the biggest problem with QoS. IMHO.

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« Reply #65 on: January 12, 2011, 10:00:50 AM »
They are all good in their own way but I do prefer the Moore/Dalton/Brosnon years over the Connery/Craig years.
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« Reply #66 on: January 12, 2011, 10:37:35 AM »
One of the problems with the story in QoS is that, as a sequel, it should have been very heavily centered around Bond getting revenge for Vesper's death. Instead, it almost feels like they kept forgetting about that.
Instead, he has to go... stop some guy from raising utility rates in a South American country...

What makes it even worse; In the film, the villain is going to double the price of water. In real life, there was a company that tripled the price of water down there. So a Bond villain was less evil than some random utility company.

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« Reply #67 on: January 12, 2011, 10:51:32 AM »
Itís not an axiom, but I tend to feel the overall quality of a Bond film hinges greatly on the quality of the villain. Which can be said of a lot most stories: The better the villain, the more heroic the hero comes across. Superman without Lex Luthor and General Zod is just a guy in a cape helping old ladies get their cats out of trees. It seems like of late, theyíve struggled to come up with villains worthy of the Bond universe. Not that they have always been great. But when I think of Auric Goldfinger or Francisco Scaramanga, I canít even remember the names of the last couple villains.
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« Reply #68 on: January 12, 2011, 11:58:46 AM »
Renard was a fantastic villian.

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« Reply #69 on: January 12, 2011, 12:00:32 PM »
I really don't understand the criticisms of the editing in QoS. I feel like I was watching a different movie from everyone else or something.
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