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« Reply #140 on: December 20, 2012, 12:57:29 PM »
....and I always used to hold up Thunderball as my favorite.  But I didn't like it as well this time around.   So far on this viewing, the one that has *really* stuck out at me as having all the pieces in place, was From Russia With Love.
Personally, I've never been a fan of Thunderball. I've tried again and again to like it, but it has never clicked with me.
Dr No, From Russia With Love, and Goldfinger are all fantastic (FRWL especially), and You Only Live Twice is a bit sillier, but still fun.

The pacing and editing just feel very mechanical for the most part. In the first three films, scenes play out in a way where you don't really think about the editing. In Thunderball, there are a lot of scenes where it feels like they had a checklist of things they needed to get through, and just rushed through them to get through some exposition/plot development and get on to the next thing. A lot of the dialog delivery feels like they taped a rehearsal, with the actors rushing through their lines, and just reading instead of acting, to make sure they had their dialog down. In half of the scenes (including a lot of shorter ones that almost felt like afterthoughts), the edit will almost cut off a character's dialog as it transitions to the next scene.

The theft of the nuclear missiles is far too drawn out (I'm willing to acknowledge that it was probably more interesting to watch back in 1965). That whole sequence could have been about half as long without losing anything. The whole bit with Bond at the health clinic goes on far too long as well. None of it is as amusing or thrilling as it was probably supposed to be. The underwater 'action' sequences are dull rather than exciting, and just drag and drag. Again, I get that it was a new idea in 1965, but it's just sleep inducing to sit through now (and again, I greatly enjoyed Connery's first three Bond films). Other action sequences, including the final confrontation with Largo, are completely ruined by the terrible looking sped up film. It drains any tension or energy right out of the sequence.

They introduce a ton of characters, and then proceed to develop almost none of them. At all. The henchmen have names and... well, that's about it really. Extremely forgettable. Fiona Volpe is the only villain in the film who is at all interesting. Connery also seems a lot less engaged in the role.

Anyway, just my two cents on it. Again, Connery's first three are classics, and still enjoyable to watch today. It's just a shame that there were so many missteps with Thunderball.

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« Reply #141 on: December 20, 2012, 01:07:28 PM »
Also...in FRWL, I may have found my new favorite Bond girl.   GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY!!!
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« Reply #142 on: December 20, 2012, 01:59:19 PM »
I know everyone has their opinions, which is awesome, but my god Quantum is the absolute worst Bond film.
It really isn't.
I will probably never understand why some people hate QoS so much. Sure, it's definitely the weakest of the Craig films so far, and probably around the middle of the pack overall, but worst in the series? No. Not even close.

My opinion of the film has actually improved a bit each time I've seen it. Seeing it in theaters the first time, it was okay, but a bit underwhelming after Casino Royale. Seeing it again, knowing what the villain's plan was, it was actually more enjoyable than the first time. Yes, there are problems with it (largely due to the writers strike at the time), and some of the editing choices are less than stellar (overly frantic action scene editing, over the top location cards). Overall, it's a decent action film with some good moments, and good performances from most of the main cast. Craig's performance alone elevates it above some other Bond films.

If someone actually claims that it's worse than Die Another Day or Diamonds Are Forever, they haven't seen at least one of the films in question.

I can see what you mean, but for me with Quantum, it's Murphy's law.

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« Reply #143 on: January 06, 2013, 05:08:02 PM »
So I was thinking about running a James Bond survivor within the next few weeks if I can get enough people to participate. Anybody up for it?

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« Reply #144 on: January 06, 2013, 07:21:31 PM »
Count me in.

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« Reply #145 on: January 07, 2013, 12:00:27 AM »
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« Reply #146 on: January 07, 2013, 06:18:08 AM »
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« Reply #147 on: January 09, 2013, 05:40:56 AM »
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« Reply #148 on: January 23, 2013, 04:49:54 PM »
I must say this would be pretty awesome if it were happening:
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It is also rumored that all six Bonds - Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig – will appear together for the first time ever at the ceremony to mark the movie franchise’s 50 years.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/adele-confirmed-to-perform-skyfall-live-at-the-oscars-3362935.html
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« Reply #149 on: January 23, 2013, 07:38:07 PM »
I'm kinda stunned that there are so few reviews of Skyfall in this thread. I felt like the last 15 minutes if that movie were absolute bliss, and Bardem is one of the best Bond villains. The scene when he and Bond meet us among my favorite scenes ever in a Bond flick.

As far as QoS, it was really hampered by the writer's strike, and I think the studio was forced to release it in order to retain the rights.  It was okay, but CR was such a perfect movie that it was nearly impossible to meet expectations.
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« Reply #150 on: January 23, 2013, 09:37:58 PM »
I must say this would be pretty awesome if it were happening:
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It is also rumored that all six Bonds - Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig – will appear together for the first time ever at the ceremony to mark the movie franchise’s 50 years.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/adele-confirmed-to-perform-skyfall-live-at-the-oscars-3362935.html
It would be insanely cool if that actually ended up happening.

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I'm kinda stunned that there are so few reviews of Skyfall in this thread. I felt like the last 15 minutes if that movie were absolute bliss, and Bardem is one of the best Bond villains. The scene when he and Bond meet us among my favorite scenes ever in a Bond flick.

As far as QoS, it was really hampered by the writer's strike, and I think the studio was forced to release it in order to retain the rights.  It was okay, but CR was such a perfect movie that it was nearly impossible to meet expectations.
I absolutely loved Skyfall the first time I saw it, liked it even more the second time I went to see it, and my opinion of it has only gone up thinking about it since. It's easily one of the best films in the series. I can't wait for the BluRay to come out.

With QoS, there were no concerns with retaining rights, but a lot of things had been set in motion and a lot of money had been spent, so they had to forge on without the writers. While it did hurt the movie a bit, I feel that it only gets as bad a rap as it does because of the inevitable comparisons to Casino Royale (and now to Skyfall as well).


Also, I watched the first two seasons of Luther on Netflix over the past few days (British series, so that's only ten episodes in total). I really, really hope the rumors are true about Idris Elba being considered as the next James Bond. Yes, I want Craig to stick around for as long as he can; Elba would just also be amazing in the role.

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« Reply #151 on: January 24, 2013, 07:44:34 AM »
Idris Elba would be a cool James Bond.

He was one of the best things about Prometheus.

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« Reply #152 on: January 25, 2013, 04:56:03 PM »
Just took a Scottish shower cause I wanted to feel like Mr. Bond. Actually....I quite liked it. I think I'll take showers like that from now on.
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« Reply #153 on: January 25, 2013, 06:03:51 PM »
I think Elba is a great actor, but I want the Bond character to stay as it was written and as it has been portrayed in every movie.  Some things are sacred.
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« Reply #154 on: January 26, 2013, 09:59:29 PM »
I think Elba is a great actor, but I want the Bond character to stay as it was written and as it has been portrayed in every movie.  Some things are sacred.
Roger Moore already gave us a version of Bond that was nothing like the written character personality wise.
For physical traits, Craig has blonde hair, which is unlike the written character.
As long as the actor is British or Irish, and right for the part acting wise, I don't see what the problem would be.

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« Reply #155 on: January 28, 2013, 01:55:47 PM »
You make a good point, but it just doesn't work for me, regardless of much I like Elba.
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« Reply #156 on: January 29, 2013, 07:34:44 PM »
As long as it doesn't turn into OSS 117, I don't mind Elba. Hell, he has so much charisma behind him I might take a liking to him.

And hell, if they made Spider-man Hispanic, I think I can live with Elba.

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« Reply #157 on: March 02, 2013, 01:44:15 AM »
Awesome celebration of Bond:

SKYFALL: 50 years of Bond
I even had a little goosebump moment.
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« Reply #158 on: March 02, 2013, 10:01:26 AM »
I think Elba is a great actor, but I want the Bond character to stay as it was written and as it has been portrayed in every movie.  Some things are sacred.
Roger Moore already gave us a version of Bond that was nothing like the written character personality wise.
For physical traits, Craig has blonde hair, which is unlike the written character.
As long as the actor is British or Irish, and right for the part acting wise, I don't see what the problem would be.

Lazenby was Australian.
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« Reply #159 on: March 02, 2013, 10:11:59 AM »
I think Elba is a great actor, but I want the Bond character to stay as it was written and as it has been portrayed in every movie.  Some things are sacred.
Roger Moore already gave us a version of Bond that was nothing like the written character personality wise.
For physical traits, Craig has blonde hair, which is unlike the written character.
As long as the actor is British or Irish, and right for the part acting wise, I don't see what the problem would be.

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« Reply #160 on: March 02, 2013, 03:42:47 PM »
Awesome celebration of Bond:

SKYFALL: 50 years of Bond
I even had a little goosebump moment.

Fantastic.

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« Reply #161 on: March 02, 2013, 03:45:19 PM »
Awesome celebration of Bond:

SKYFALL: 50 years of Bond
I even had a little goosebump moment.

That was amazing. The finish was godlike, and even though I've already said it more than often enough, I'll repeat: the Skyfall theme is one of the best bond themes ever and it fits the video soooooooooooo well.
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« Reply #162 on: March 02, 2013, 03:46:50 PM »
Just reminded me of growing up with bond movies.

i'm 35 this year and can remember it always being on tv or a new one coming out pretty much forever.

My Dad and I are massive Bond fans so it's a huge part of my life..

So yeah - I got a bit emotional hehe.  :blush


And yeah - Skyfall has the best Bond song in YEARS. * At least * since Goldeneye.

Casino Royale had a great theme tune. Quantum Of Solace was AWFUL. - That film was just bad on every level it seems.

Licence to Kill was an ok song. Don't remember what Living Daylights was.

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« Reply #163 on: March 02, 2013, 04:11:44 PM »
Awesome celebration of Bond:

SKYFALL: 50 years of Bond
I even had a little goosebump moment.

That was amazing. The finish was godlike, and even though I've already said it more than often enough, I'll repeat: the Skyfall theme is one of the best bond themes ever and it fits the video soooooooooooo well.
I'll have to agree on that, the funny thing is that it has more bond feel than any other theme in a long time and so has the movie. Both fresh and yet very traditional.
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« Reply #164 on: March 02, 2013, 05:13:39 PM »

That was amazing. The finish was godlike, and even though I've already said it more than often enough, I'll repeat: the Skyfall theme is one of the best bond themes ever and it fits the video soooooooooooo well.
I'll have to agree on that, the funny thing is that it has more bond feel than any other theme in a long time and so has the movie. Both fresh and yet very traditional.

Amen to that. I absolutely love the Skyfall theme and I haven't loved a theme like that since Goldeneye. 
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« Reply #165 on: March 27, 2015, 06:50:12 PM »
SPECTRE Teaser trailer

Looks to be a dark movie, like that very much.  :tup
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« Reply #166 on: March 27, 2015, 07:58:57 PM »
 :hefdaddy :omg: This has potential.

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« Reply #167 on: March 27, 2015, 10:10:54 PM »
SPECTRE Teaser trailer

Looks to be a dark movie, like that very much.  :tup

I LOVE how it's tying into all the previous Craig films too, with the references to Skyfall and having Mr. White make an appearance. :tup

It definitely has a darker edge to it visually than Skyfall, which is likely due to the switch of DPs from Roger Deakins to Hoyte van Hoytema. 
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« Reply #168 on: March 28, 2015, 01:05:20 AM »
That trailer looks amazing. Really pumped for this one.
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« Reply #169 on: March 28, 2015, 09:37:57 AM »
Awesome celebration of Bond:

SKYFALL: 50 years of Bond
I even had a little goosebump moment.

That was amazing. The finish was godlike, and even though I've already said it more than often enough, I'll repeat: the Skyfall theme is one of the best bond themes ever and it fits the video soooooooooooo well.

The Skyfall theme is one of the better ones, but I think it's kinda overrated. It's not all that. A lot better than the travesty that was Quantum of Solace though.

The new trailer was too brief to excite me yet, but I like the guy playing the villian, and based on this I'm confident it's going to be great.
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« Reply #170 on: March 28, 2015, 10:01:58 AM »
The Skyfall theme is one of the better ones, but I think it's kinda overrated.

The Skyfall theme is indeed good, but when combined with the imagery of the Skyfall intro it becomes truly awesome.
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« Reply #171 on: March 28, 2015, 10:07:30 AM »
The Skyfall theme is one of the better ones, but I think it's kinda overrated.

The Skyfall theme is indeed good, but when combined with the imagery of the Skyfall intro it becomes truly awesome.

All of the intros since they rebooted it have been pretty awesome, and that one does work great as a whole. :tup

My personal favourite is the Casino Royale intro. It blew me away the first time I saw it, and I still love it and the unique style of it, and the way it fits with the music, which is my favourite Bond theme since the 1970s.

I don't know if it's coincidence that I think the worst Bond intro visually is also the one with the worst music, Die Another Day.
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« Reply #172 on: March 28, 2015, 10:12:54 AM »
I've been working my way through all the bond movies. I just watched Moonraker yesterday. I did not think it was as bad as people say it is. It's not even my least favorite Moore era bond so far. That Honor would go to The Man With The Golden Gun.

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« Reply #173 on: March 28, 2015, 10:18:17 AM »
I've been working my way through all the bond movies. I just watched Moonraker yesterday. I did not think it was as bad as people say it is. It's not even my least favorite Moore era bond so far. That Honor would go to The Man With The Golden Gun.

I maintain that Moonraker is a pretty good Bond movie until it turns into Star Wars. :lol
The Man With The Golden Gun is cool too. It's so awesomely '70s, with Christopher Lee teamed up with Tattoo for an evil plan involving solar power or something, and the iconic signature weapon. I love the theme too, with the fuzz guitar.
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« Reply #174 on: March 28, 2015, 10:19:43 AM »
I've been into Bond as long as I can remember. My dad is a big fan and we were both into
Moore's films. I don't dislike any of his films.

My favourite movie overall is Goldeneye and then Casino Royale a very close second.

Third might be A View To A Kill as it was my favourite growing up.

Or The Spy Who Loved Me.

Worst is easily Die Another Day.

Just terrible.

And QOS is a mis step but it's not awful.