Disagree. The number of songs means the VARIETY OF TUNES. Listen, I would rather listen to 20 songs from a band, rather than 12. By default, because some of Dream Theater's songs are very long, it's really hard to get a good variety. I'm not one of those fans that sits and just likes to watch the band play. I like the different moods and soundscapes of the separate songs. So for me (and many others), it is important not just how long DT plays, but the variety of different songs in their catalog that they perform at each show.
Dream Theater's songs are long because they have that variety. Sure, not true of the Train of Thought songs, but certainly is of pretty much any long song the band have ever done. It's not like they just play the same riff over again. Take A Nightmare To Remember... It's like a soft song, a metal song, and a DT instrumental all in one... Same goes for any of the big prog bands... Yes, Rush, even Zappa. There's nothing redundant about most of the long songs.
DT isn't playing bigger places. That has slowed down. And album sales have been the same lately as well. But you misspeak. I didn't say I didn't like the new stuff "AT ALL." I do like some of the "new" stuff, but not much after ToT.
Ha, I guess you posted this right before learning about the MSG show
Dude, the sample size here at DTF is NOTHING in comparison to the "average" DT fan. No one that posts here is an "average" fan. People who come to DT's shows aren't just everyone here. There are easily 100s of thousands of fans that aren't here who want to hear DT do older material more.
I agree that the DTF fanbase is nothing in comparison to the average DT fan. I was trying to point out that you sounded like you were saying that DTF posters are more likely to like new material, which is clearly fallacious. We have plenty of old fogeys here, and plenty of posters who don't like the newer DT stuff at all. And even if we didn't, it'd still be unverifiable.
But DT's style of writing these long drawn out songs has a downside. It limits the number of songs they can actually play in one concert.
I agree that having long songs of the Train of Thought variety is a downside, but with BC&SL the band have come back to writing long songs that actually go different places. So I could care less about the number of songs. I've said it before, but my dream headlining DT set would be:
1.Metropolis
2. ACoS
3.LiTS
2nd Set
4.SDOIT
5. 8va
-encore-
6. TCoT
5.LtL