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« Reply #105 on: May 14, 2012, 01:55:44 PM »
Thanks.  The Wild and the Young would be excellent.  As would be Let's Get Crazy.  I was stoked to hear them do Run for Cover.

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« Reply #106 on: May 15, 2012, 08:39:40 AM »
Good review.  Thanks for that!  I hope they can get Y&T on the bill next year.

Me too.  This is the 4th year of M3.  We missed the first year.  That was the year Y&T was there.  Figures.  I did see a guy with a Meniketti shirt on (with the Meniketti/Les Paul graphic).

This is interesting:

Quote from: Jill Meniketti
Y&T played the inaugural year of M3--the band was very well received and the promoter was quite happy.  I continue to contact the promoter every year about Y&T but... :EmoteShrug:

Time for the ticket buyers to contact the promoter and make their voices heard. ;)

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« Reply #107 on: May 15, 2012, 08:41:39 AM »
That would be quite excellent.  I'd love to see them and I have no doubt they'd be well received.

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« Reply #108 on: May 16, 2012, 07:51:27 AM »
I can also vouch for the fact that they are an excellent live band.  If you only know them from the albums/videos, you probably don't realize what a phenominal singer Oz is or what a phenominal guitar player Michael is.  But, yeah, as you pointed out, most people don't realize that Oz does a lot more lead singing and Michael does a lot more soloing and lead riffing than you would think just from the videos.

I took the liberty of finally bringing my headphones with me today and listened to the studio versions of a couple of their tunes again, specifically Free and Sing-Along Song.  When I first listened to Stryper, I wasn't big into music, didn't play guitar yet, and didn't really have an ear for picking out things.  Listening to them now, it's really cool to pick up things I never "got" before.

The guitar solo from Free has some ridiculous licks in it.  Some cool tapping runs and one lick that sounds really almost harmonic-minor-ish, something I guess I never expected from a band that always seemed to suffer from the "Jesus-rock" label.

Then on Sing-Along Song, the chords imply E minor (E-D-C), but the whole time that E power chord is holding out, the vocal melody is singing notes in E major.  It's like taking a metal-edged chord progression and singing an upbeat major melody over it.  The effect that's achieved is really cool.

EDIT:  I accidentally typed that as "Sin-Along Song".  That would've made for a much more interesting Stryper tune, methinks.  :lol

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« Reply #109 on: May 17, 2012, 11:50:48 AM »
Then on Sing-Along Song, the chords imply E minor (E-D-C), but the whole time that E power chord is holding out, the vocal melody is singing notes in E major.  It's like taking a metal-edged chord progression and singing an upbeat major melody over it.  The effect that's achieved is really cool.

The vocal melodies are one thing about the band that I simultaneously love and hate.  Their vocal melodies are almost ALWAYS in very upbeat major keys (or at least are arranged in such a way that they sound like they are).  That combined with the way they arrange their 3 and 4 part harmonies makes the vocals always sound very church-choir-ish.  It is a cool effect, but one that sometimes just doesn't feel to me like it matches the feel of the music.

EDIT:  I accidentally typed that as "Sin-Along Song".  That would've made for a much more interesting Stryper tune, methinks.  :lol

:rollin  That is one of the best unintentional typos ever! 


Even though I got into these guys in the '80s, I never really appreciated what a good band they were until a few years ago when they released their live CD and I subsequently had the opportunity to actually hear them live.  Such a good live band!  Once you remove all the slick '80s hair band studio production that you get from their albums, I think it is much easier to appreciate them.  Calling On You is a perfect example.  I've been putting it off, but I really need to get this DVD.  I've seen a lot of clips on YouTube in the past, and it looks really good.  Good selection of songs as well (Michael really shows off what a beast he is on More Than A Man and The Way, which I would definitely consider more "deep cuts" than hits.
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« Reply #110 on: May 17, 2012, 01:26:30 PM »
Makes sense, the church-choir-ish sound.  I just get excited to hear ANY band pull off great multi-part harmony, because it's a lot more difficult to do than play an instrument.  Granted, you can make anything sound good in the studio, but they nailed those SAS harmonies live as well.  T'was pretty badass.

Funny, in looking at some of the reviews for that DVD, I saw someone mention Whitecross.  There's a band I haven't heard of in ages.  :lol

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« Reply #111 on: January 22, 2013, 08:14:11 AM »
M3 is BACK this May.  Good lineup.  Looking forward to it!


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« Reply #112 on: January 22, 2013, 09:41:57 AM »
Not as strong as past years, I must say.  Coz', do yourself a favor and MAKE SURE to catch King's X.
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« Reply #113 on: January 22, 2013, 10:31:53 AM »
Guaranteed.  They're one of the "can not miss" bands for me this year, along with Steel Panther, Steelheart, and JSRG (Vixen, basically).  Bret Michaels will put on an excellent show, no question.  He always does.  Also looking forward to Twisted Sister.

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« Reply #114 on: May 03, 2013, 05:08:48 PM »
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« Reply #115 on: May 03, 2013, 05:36:08 PM »
I expect, like you always do, a great review of each band.
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« Reply #116 on: May 03, 2013, 05:58:07 PM »
Not as strong as past years, I must say.  Coz', do yourself a favor and MAKE SURE to catch King's X.

That would be the one band on that bill you 100% need to see.
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« Reply #117 on: May 03, 2013, 06:09:28 PM »
It'll be my first time seeing King's X.  So stoked!

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« Reply #118 on: May 03, 2013, 07:58:27 PM »
Heaviness and harmonies will blow you away,
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« Reply #119 on: May 03, 2013, 08:19:12 PM »
WASP is absolutely ridiculous.  Just kicking all kinds of ass.

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« Reply #120 on: May 04, 2013, 02:29:10 PM »
I'm skipping Loudness to get as close to the stage for King's X as possible.

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« Reply #121 on: May 04, 2013, 03:15:12 PM »
WASP, Danger Danger, Firehouse and the Panther would be my picks.
Kings X just don't do it for me at all.

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« Reply #122 on: May 04, 2013, 03:17:50 PM »
WASP, Danger Danger, Firehouse and the Panther would be my picks.
Kings X just don't do it for me at all.

Do you hate chicks and America too?
Boobs or bacon probably dont do it for you at all either.


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« Reply #123 on: May 04, 2013, 03:23:27 PM »
WASP, Danger Danger, Firehouse and the Panther would be my picks.
Kings X just don't do it for me at all.

Do you hate chicks and America too?
Boobs or bacon probably dont do it for you at all either.


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Err, no. Not yet.
And they're three of my favourite things.

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« Reply #124 on: May 04, 2013, 04:56:36 PM »


It felt like they jarred some fillings loose.

And Steel Panther fucking ROCKED!

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« Reply #125 on: May 05, 2013, 07:23:26 AM »


It felt like they jarred some fillings loose.




the fillings in your soul?
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« Reply #126 on: May 05, 2013, 08:07:03 AM »
It was loud and heavy. Wow!

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« Reply #127 on: May 07, 2013, 01:47:57 PM »
So, anything else to report?
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« Reply #128 on: May 07, 2013, 01:54:17 PM »
So, anything else to report?

He cant.  Kings X rattled his SOUL loose.  He needs some time to recover.
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« Reply #129 on: May 07, 2013, 01:59:57 PM »
So, anything else to report?

Yeah, just haven't gotten around to it all.  Hopefully in the next few days.

He cant.  Kings X rattled his SOUL loose.  He needs some time to recover.

 :lol  Crushing, it was.  For now, here was the setlist.  I think this is all of it:

Groove Machine
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« Reply #130 on: May 07, 2013, 02:04:15 PM »
So, anything else to report?

Yeah, just haven't gotten around to it all.  Hopefully in the next few days.

He cant.  Kings X rattled his SOUL loose.  He needs some time to recover.

 :lol  Crushing, it was.  For now, here was the setlist.  I think this is all of it:

Groove Machine
Dogman
Vegetable
Everybody Knows a Little Bit of Something
Black Like Sunday
Over My Head
We Were Born to Be Loved



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« Reply #131 on: May 07, 2013, 02:08:44 PM »
Here's another shot, of Dug and Ty from the end of WWBTBL.  That song felt like it went on forever, but that's all right.  :lol


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« Reply #132 on: May 07, 2013, 02:19:29 PM »
Nice shot. Looked like a beautiful day!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #133 on: May 07, 2013, 02:21:16 PM »
Here's another shot, of Dug and Ty from the end of WWBTBL.  That song felt like it went on forever, but that's all right.  :lol

Probably because it does go on forever.  :lol  ...but that's alright.
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« Reply #134 on: May 07, 2013, 02:22:45 PM »
Nice shot. Looked like a beautiful day!

Friday night was DAMN cold.  It was in the 40's and even with jeans on it was cold.  Saturday - perfect, PERFECT weather all day.  It was sunny enough to get sunburned, but not like swelteringly "i can't breathe" hot.


Here's another shot, of Dug and Ty from the end of WWBTBL.  That song felt like it went on forever, but that's all right.  :lol

Probably because it does go on forever.  :lol  ...but that's alright.

:lol  Well yeah, but this felt like the extended version.

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« Reply #135 on: May 07, 2013, 02:38:03 PM »
Ty's guitar playing in Vegetable is smoking.  Great tune on an ok album.
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« Reply #136 on: May 10, 2013, 01:57:05 PM »
So yeah, I probably won't get everything in today, but I'll get started.  I've pretty much copied all the sets from Setlist.fm.

Had a bitchin' burger at Frank's Diner, then went to the show.  The opening band on Friday night was a band called Bad Seed Rising.  A group of teens ranging from 11-15, they were really quite good:



Not a lot to say, but that they were really cool and hopefully they'll continue to get this kind of exposure.  Also, the drummer's name is "Iron" Aiden.  :metal


Next up is Danger Danger.  Guitarist Rob Marcello is a freakin' monster.  Holy crap.  This is one of the many bands that I know a FEW songs from and really need to explore further.  Also, another band whose singer still sounds surprisingly really good.

Boys Will Be Boys
Monkey Business
No idea
Beat the Bullet
Don't Walk Away
Rock America
Naughty Naughty

Kix came up next and being that they're kinda the hometown  heroes, you know they're going to put on a good show.  Now Fridays at M3 are known as the "M3 Kix-Off Party".  They usually close out Friday night.  Frontman extraordinaire, Steve Whiteman addressed the fans who asked why they weren't closing this year.  Apparently WASP was asked to play earlier and they were like "Um, no."  Which was no big deal, if we have to play for you at 3 in the afternoon, we don't give a shit.

Then why'd you even bring it up, douche?  He just wanted to try to make Blackie Lawless look like an asshole.  Whatever.  All that aside, they do always put on a kick ass show.

Girl Money
Red Lite, Green Lite
Red Hot (Black and Blue)
Sex
The Itch
No Ring Around Rosie
Don't Close Your Eyes
Layin' Rubber
Cold Shower
Cold Blood
Drum Solo
Blow My Fuse
Midnite Dynamite
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah

So the night's closer, WASP finally comes on.  By this time, it's low 40's outside and all I had was a thin little jacket.  Froze our asses off.  I was fortunate to later find some fresh hot Starbucks on site.  So anyway, the curtain comes up, there's the big WASP banner, flashing red lights, sirens, helicopter sounds, etc.  Badass.

For like 3-4 minutes.  Not so badass anymore.  Do it for like 45 seconds, a minute tops, then come out and rock.  That said, Blackie is still sporting the fringe-y Ugg boots and the half sawblade wristbands.  He may be 56 years old, but that dude and both the guitarist and bassist were running ALL OVER that stage like a bat out of hell.  He certainly appears to be in some damn good shape.  They played a number of hits, then took a half hour or so to do the Crimson Idol bit.  That was a little blah for me, but I'm not real familiar with their work beyond the hits anyway.  That said, they were amazing.  Absolutely nailed everything.  Killer energy and sound.  I was duly impressed.

On Your Knees / The Torture Never Stops
The Real Me (the Who)
L.O.V.E. Machine
Wild Child
Sleeping (in the Fire) / Forever Free
I Wanna Be Somebody

The Crimson Idol/The Titanic Overture
The Crimson Idol Medley
The Idol
The Great Misconceptions of Me

Drum Solo
Heaven's Hung in Black
Encore:
Blind in Texas

So a pretty damn good night, though we were freezing.  It was nice to hoof it back to the van and get some freakin' heat blowing.

Out for today, got a TON of stuff to do to ready for tonight's gig, so I'll pick up on Monday.

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« Reply #137 on: May 13, 2013, 02:06:10 PM »
So luckily, our hotel had hot complimentary breakfast.  Score.  Off to the show.

I should mention that this guy here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogEX7OGRCkk&list=PLS3kZYph0cAXGR-M6Ju_kGtctmwdkViA7

Has videos of a LOT of the weekend.  101 videos.  It starts off on Unskinny Bop, but to the right of the video is a scrollable list of the videos he took form the weekend.

First up, on the main stage, a band called Korupt.  Apparently they've been around since the early 80's, though I'd never heard of them til M3.  I know next to nothing about them, but I will say they sounded pretty good.  Bonus - they did a ripping cover of Green Manalishi.  It wasn't Judas Priest, but still damn good.

Next up on the main stage was Love/Hate.  I know "Rock Queen" from an 80's compilation I had and, of course, Blackout in the Red Room.  Another "filler" band to start the day off with, but again, they put on a respectable show.

Why Do You Think They Call It Dope?
Tumbleweed
She's An Angel
Wasted In America
Blackout In The Red Room

Over to the Festival Stage, Streetlight Circus, an independent band form NY went on for another short set.  These guys are fairly well unknown, but they sound great and after 2 years of exposure at M3 are hopefully making a good name for themselves.  To my surprise, they did a cover of Kiss' "Do You Love Me".  Very cool.  Not necessarily an OBSCURE Kiss tune, but DEFINITELY not even in the top 20 I'd think someone would cover.

Back to the main stage for Steelheart, a band I'd been looking forward to seeing for some time.  I have to say, I was disappointed they weren't up later with a longer set.  I'd have loved to hear some of their more well known songs, but no matter, Miljenko Matijevic still slays.  And yes, he can still hit the money notes on I'll Never Let You Go.  Wow.  It's one thing to hear that kind of hair raising vocal on a recording, to hear it live is just flat out  :metal :metal :metal.  Another surprise, they did We All Die Young and Blood Pollution from the Rockstar soundtrack.  Great, albeit too short, set:

Blood Pollution
Gimme Gimme
Like Never Before
Cabernet
We All Die Young
I'll Never Let You Go

So after they finish up, there's a short break in the day to help keep themselves on schedule, while Trixter gets set up on the main stage.  They are one of those bands that had a few great tunes, but came out so late in the game that they never really caught on.  They've put on a great show everytime we've seen them, as they did when I saw them open for Kiss back on the Revenge tour.

Drag Me Down
Road of a Thousand Dreams
Heart of Steel
Machine
Line of Fire
One in a Million
Give it to Me Good

Next on the Festival Stage was Tuff.  Nobody I've heard of outside of M3, though they appear to have been around a long time also.  Nothing that really slayed me, but still in the spirit of the day, it's good stuff.

God Bless This Mess
Good Guys Wear Black
I Hate Kissing You Goodbye
Ruck-a-Pit Bridge
American Hair Band

Of note, the song "American Hair Band" is basically a very odd mish-mash of Sad But True, sung by a Kid Rock wannabe, except that the lyrics have about every 80's metal reference you could think of jammed into it.  Still not sure what to make of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4ZNO24Ye4

More tomorrow...

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« Reply #139 on: May 13, 2013, 02:58:06 PM »
Exactly.