Images & Words vs. Octavarium -- song by song

[bosk1]

Got this idea from something in another thread.  Rank the 16 songs from these two albums.  I know this is fairly arbitrary, but I'm just curious to see how they stack up against each other in different people's minds.

Mine:

1.  Octavarium
2.  Metropolis, pt. I
3.  Learning To Live
4.  Panic Attack
5.  Pull Me Under
6.  Sacrificed Sons
7.  The Root Of All Evil
8.  Wait For Sleep
9.  Take The Time
10.  These Walls
11.  Under a Glass Moon
12.  I Walk Beside You
13.  Never Enough
14.  Surrounded
15.  Another Day
16.  The Answer Lies Within

[BlobVanDam]

1.  Take The Time
2.  These Walls
3.  The Root Of All Evil
4.  Octavarium
5.  Metropolis, pt. I
6.  Under a Glass Moon
7.  Another Day
8.  Panic Attack
9.  Pull Me Under
10.  Sacrificed Sons
11.  Surrounded
12.  Learning To Live
13.  Wait For Sleep
14.  I Walk Beside You
15.  The Answer Lies Within
16.  Never Enough


Hm actually a lot better mixed than I expected. Octavarium has a lot of good songs, but as an album it doesn't flow well enough to compete with IaW for me. But on a song by song basis, it stacks up quite nicely

[Zydar]

1. Learning To Live
2. Surrounded
3. Another Day
4. Wait For Sleep
5. Metropolis
6. Take The Time
7. Under A Glass Moon
8. The Root Of All Evil
9. Sacrified Sons
10. Octavarium
11. Pull Me Under
12. I Walk Beside You
13. The Answer Lies Within
14. Panic Attack
15. These Walls
16. Never Enough

Yes I'm an I&W fanboi, and 8VM is fairly low/middle on my DT list, so no real surprises here.

[hefdaddy42]

Learning To Live
Metropolis Pt. 1
Octavarium
Take The Time
Pull Me Under
Under A Glass Moon
Surrounded
The Root of All Evil
Wait For Sleep
These Walls
Another Day
Sacrificed Sons
I Walk Beside You
Never Enough
Panic Attack
The Answer Lies Within

[TAC]

1. Learning To Live
2. Octavarium
3. Take The Time
4. Metropolis Pt1
5. Surrounded
6. Panic Attack
7. Under A Glass Moon
8. Sacrificed Sons
9. Another Day
10. Pull Me Under
11. Never Enough
12. Wait For Sleep
13. I Walk Beside You
14. These Walls
15. The Root Of All Evil
16. The Answer Lies Within

[Mladen]

Metropolis pt 1
Octavarium
Learning to live
Pull me under
Take the time
Panic attack
Under a glass moon
Never enough
Surrounded
Wait for sleep
Another day
The Root of all evil
I walk beside you
These walls
Sacrificed sons
The Answer lies within

[Mebert78]

I know this is fairly arbitrary, but I'm just curious to see how they stack up against each other in different people's minds.

Can you further explain why you picked these two albums?  Just curious. 

[Nic35]

I know this is fairly arbitrary, but I'm just curious to see how they stack up against each other in different people's minds.

Can you further explain why you picked these two albums?  Just curious. 

Maybe because most of DT fanbase thinks that I&W is DT's definitive album, although the band thinks it is Octavarium.

[Dublagent66]

1.  Learning To Live
2.  Octavarium
3.  Metropolis, Pt. I
4.  Pull Me Under
5.  Under a Glass Moon
6.  Take The Time
7.  The Root Of All Evil
8.  Panic Attack
9.  Another Day
10.  Surrounded
11.  These Walls
12.  Wait For Sleep
13.  I Walk Beside You
14.  The Answer Lies Within
15.  Sacrificed Sons
16.  Never Enough

[BlobVanDam]

I know this is fairly arbitrary, but I'm just curious to see how they stack up against each other in different people's minds.

Can you further explain why you picked these two albums?  Just curious. 

Maybe because most of DT fanbase thinks that I&W is DT's definitive album, although the band thinks it is Octavarium.

Actually, it's because of a discussion in the Octavarium thread.

[hefdaddy42]

I know this is fairly arbitrary, but I'm just curious to see how they stack up against each other in different people's minds.

Can you further explain why you picked these two albums?  Just curious. 

Maybe because most of DT fanbase thinks that I&W is DT's definitive album, although the band thinks it is Octavarium.

The band doesn't.

[millahh]

1..  Learning To Live
2. Metropolis, Pt. I
3..  Wait For Sleep
4. Pull Me Under
5. Under a Glass Moon
6. Take The Time
7. The Root Of All Evil
8. Panic Attack
9. I Walk Beside You
10. Surrounded
11. Another Day
12. Sacrificed Sons
13. These Walls
14. The Answer Lies Within
15. Octavarium
16. Never Enough

[kirbywelch92]

15. Octavarium

wut

[robwebster]

1. Octavarium
2. Learning to Live
3. The Root of All Evil
4. Take the Time
5. Surrounded
6. These Walls
7. Sacrificed Sons
8. Under a Glass Moon
9. Wait for Sleep
10. Panic Attack
11. Pull Me Under
12. I Walk Beside You
13. Never Enough
14. Metropolis pt. 1
15. The Answer Lies Within
16. Another Day

I've chosen to use green and red, partially because they're the colours I most associate with the cover of each album, and partially because I fucking love christmas.

I've got a hunch I'll be crucified for some of those placements, which incidentally is how the chorus to The Root of All Evil goes, so hey!

[kirbywelch92]

1. Octavarium
2. Learning to Live
3. Sacrificed Sons
4. Metropolis
5. Under a Glass Moon
6. Panic Attack
7. Take the Time
8. These Walls
9. Pull Me Under
10. Never Enough
11. Root of All Evil
12. Another Day
13. Surrounded
14. I Walk Beside You
15. The Answer Lies Within
16. Wait for Sleep

[changing_seasons]

1.  Octavarium
2.  Take The Time
3.  Learning To Live
4.  Metropolis, pt. I
5.  These Walls
6.  Under a Glass Moon
7.  Panic Attack
8.  Pull Me Under
9.  Sacrificed Sons
10. I Walk Beside You
11.  Another Day
12.  The Root Of All Evil
13.  Never Enough
14.  The Answer Lies Within
15.  Wait For Sleep
16.  Surrounded

[bosk1]

I've chosen to use green and red, partially because they're the colours I most associate with the cover of each album, and partially because I fucking love christmas.

DammitRob!  *recalibrates eyes*

[millahh]

15. Octavarium

wut

Ok...I'll clarify:

15. Octavarium

[Marvellous G]

1. Octavarium
2. Learning to Live
3. Take the Time
4. Metropolis Part 1
5. These Walls
6. The Root of All Evil
7. Surrounded
8. Under a Glass Moon
9. Pull Me Under
10. I Walk Beside You
11. The Answer Lies Within
12. Another Day
13. Sacrificed Sons
14. Never Enough
15. Panic Attack
16. Wait For Sleep

Feel a little guilty about my WFS placement, but on it's own it doesn't quite beat out the other songs.

[Shadow2222]

1. Octavarium
2. The Root of All Evil
3. Sacrificed Sons
4. Take the Time
5. Metropolis Part 1
6. Panic Attack
7. I Walk Beside You
8. Under a Glass Moon
9. Surrounded
10. These Walls
11. The Answer Lies Within
12. Another Day
13. Learning to Live
14. Never Enough
15. Wait For Sleep
16. Pull Me Under

There we go.

[Perpetual Change]

I agree about the Green.

1. Octavarium
2. Learning to Live
3. Metropolis pt. 1
4. These Walls
5. Surrounded
6. Take the Time
7. The Root of All Evil
8. Pull Me Under
9. Wait for Sleep
10. Panic Attack
11. Sacrificed Sons
12. Under a Glass Moon
13. Never Enough
14. I Walk Beside You
15. Another Day
16. The Answer Lies Within

I like them all right down to Never Enough.  The last three I can take or leave.

[KevShmev]

1. "Learning to Live"
2. "Metropolis"
3. "Take the Time"
4. "Surrounded"
5. "Octavarium"
6. "Another Day"
7. "Wait for Sleep"
8. "Under a Glass Moon"
9. "Pull Me Under"
10. "Panic Attack"
11. "The Root of All Evil"
12. "I Walk Beside You"
13. "The Answer Lies Within"
14. "Sacrificed Sons"
15. "These Walls"
16. "Never Enough"

[Dream Team]

1. "Metropolis"
2. "Under a Glass Moon"
3. "Learning to Live"
4. "Surrounded"
5. "Octavarium"
6. "The Root of all Evil"
7. "Take the Time"
8. "Pull Me Under"
9. "I Walk Beside You"
10. "Sacrificed Sons"
11. "Wait for Sleep"
12. "Another Day"
13. "Panic Attack"
14. "These Walls"
15. "Never Enough"
16. "The Answer Lies Within"

[Dcrupi]

Cool idea bosk!

Metropolis Pt. 1
Learning to Live
Octavarium
Under A Glass Moon
Pull Me Under
Panic Attack
Surrounded
These Walls
Wait For Sleep
Take The Time
Another Day
Sacrificed Sons
I Walk Beside You
The Answer Lies Within
Never Enough

[ZBomber]

1 Octavarium
2 Learning to Live
3 Metropolis
4 The Root of All Evil
5 Wait for Sleep
6 Surrounded
7 Panic Attack
8 Take the Time
9 These Walls
10 Pull Me Under
11 Another Day
12 Under A Glass Moon
13 The Answer Lies Within
14 Sacrificed Sons
15 Never Enough
16 I Walk Beside You

[j]

I've got a hunch I'll be crucified for some of those placements

Only Metropolis.  *crucifies*

I'll take your green and red idea though, because I share your love for Christmas.

1. Metropolis Pt. 1
2. Learning to Live
3. Under a Glass Moon
4. Octavarium
5. Take the Time
6. Wait for Sleep
7. Surrounded
8. Another Day
9. Pull Me Under
10. The Root of All Evil
11. These Walls
12. I Walk Beside You
13. Sacrificed Sons
14. The Answer Lies Within
15. Panic Attack
16. Never Enough

For the record, I probably like TROAE better than PMU and maybe Another Day, but in the interest of staying consistent with my brash statement in the other thread (something along the lines of "aside from the title track, the best song on Octavarium is still worse than the worst song on I&W"), I've gone against my better judgment, i.e. honesty.

-J

[Dublagent66]

I know this is fairly arbitrary, but I'm just curious to see how they stack up against each other in different people's minds.

Can you further explain why you picked these two albums?  Just curious. 

Maybe because most of DT fanbase thinks that I&W is DT's definitive album, although the band thinks it is Octavarium.

The band doesn't.

Didn't JP mention something about that in the SC documentary?  But then again, maybe he wasn't speaking for the whole band.  That's what I immediately thought of when reading Mebert's post.

[austin]

1. Octavarium
2. Learning To Live
3. These Walls
4. Metropolis
5. Root of All Evil
6. Surrounded
7. Sacrificed Sons
8. Under a Glass Moon
9. Take the Time
10. Another Day
11. I Walk Beside You
12. Wait for Sleep
13. Pull Me Under
14. The Answer Lies Within
15. Panic Attack
16. Never Enough

[black_biff_stadler]

1) Metropolis                       
2) Learning to Live               
3) Take the Time                 
4) Under a Glass Moon           
5) Pull Me Under
1) Panic Attack
6) Wait for Sleep
2) The Root of All Evil
7) Another Day
8) Surrounded
3) These Walls
4) Never Enough
5) Sacrificed Sons
6) Octavarium
7) I walk Beside You
8) The Answer Lies Within

[austin]

4) Never Enough
5) Sacrificed Sons
6) Octavarium

wat

[setrataeso]

1. Metropolis
2. Octavarium
3. The Root of All Evil
4. Take the Time
5. Panic Attack
6. Under a Glass Moon
7. Surrounded
8. Wait for Sleep
9. The Answer Lies Within
10. Never Enough
11. Learning to Live
12. These Walls
13. Another Day
14. Sacrificed Sons
15. I Walk Beside You
16. Pull Me Under

[black_biff_stadler]

4) Never Enough
5) Sacrificed Sons
6) Octavarium

wat

wut

[The Letter M]

4) Never Enough
5) Sacrificed Sons
6) Octavarium

wat

wut

wit

-Marc.

[Perpetual Change]

4) Never Enough
5) Sacrificed Sons
6) Octavarium

wat

wut

WTF seriously?

[austin]

4) Never Enough
5) Sacrificed Sons
6) Octavarium

wat

wut

WTF seriously?