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Re: A thought on Octavarium
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2010, 09:31:52 PM »
Because it's all about context. It would make no sense to use a term contrary to its accepted definition of its context.
I'll accept that you have a different definition, but I still I disagree as to that intro being wank. It's a slow built-up intro, increasing in intensity to set the mood of the song. In a 24 minute song, I don't see 4-5 minutes as being excessive or self indulgent any more than for example the 3 minute outro solo by JP for TBOT.

I get that but based on your use of ratio of intro to total song length then Six Degrees could have a bland ethereal 7-9 minute continuum intro and that'd be just fine. I have no problem with establishing mood but the when the pacing causes me to lose focus and become frustrated at the waste of time it's turned into I draw the line. At least after those 4 minutes(well 3:48 anyway) he brings in that melody that begins to give the song some life.

What I don't understand is how many people on this forum slobber all over 8vm's intro but virtually everyone will pan Opeth's much shorter outro to Dirge for November for it's "redundancy."  :huh:

:lol Where is anyone slobbering over the intro? Some people like it, some don't. And it's bland in your opinion, but to me it's a great moody build-up to the song, building up intensity over an interesting and unique underlying chord progression. I respect that you don't like it (plenty of others who don't, and I skip it occasionally too, no big deal), but I don't think it's wank any more than the intro to Trial of Tears, the mid-section of TCOT, or any other lengthy outro solo by JP like TBOT.
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Re: A thought on Octavarium
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2010, 10:34:20 PM »
Why do you all keep referring to wank as if its a bad thing?

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Re: A thought on Octavarium
« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2010, 10:36:34 PM »
Why do you all keep referring to wank as if its a bad thing?

You got this one Blob or do I need to elaborate?
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Re: A thought on Octavarium
« Reply #73 on: February 16, 2010, 10:39:04 PM »
Why do you all keep referring to wank as if its a bad thing?

You got this one Blob or do I need to elaborate?

Nah, we're good here.
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Re: A thought on Octavarium
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2010, 10:27:59 AM »
austin = DTF's laziest poster  ;)
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Re: A thought on Octavarium
« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2010, 10:56:15 PM »
Replace IWBY with ANYTHING and it will be a better album.
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Re: A thought on Octavarium
« Reply #76 on: February 21, 2010, 11:26:09 PM »
Replace IWBY and TALW with ANYTHING even Mmmmbop and it will be a better album.

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Re: A thought on Octavarium
« Reply #77 on: February 22, 2010, 12:32:52 AM »
I'm quite partial to TALW, but  IWBY is just terrible.
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Re: A thought on Octavarium
« Reply #78 on: February 22, 2010, 04:48:53 AM »
I'm quite partial to TALW, but  IWBY is just terrible.
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