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Offline showdonttell

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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #105 on: July 25, 2013, 09:58:22 AM »
Quote from: ZKX-2099 on February 03, 2010, 01:46:59 AM
It's not that I don't like Awake. It's just that everything else they have done is far better. My main gripe that it doesn't really feel like a proper album. The track listing seems a bit off. I think...

6:00
Caught In A Web
Innocence Faded
The Mirror
Lie
Space Dye Vest
Scarred
Lifting Shadows
Erotomania
The Silent Man
Voices

would have had a much better flow over all.
Wait, wut  :hat
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #106 on: July 25, 2013, 10:03:24 AM »
KM = MAGIC.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #107 on: July 25, 2013, 10:05:29 AM »
My favorite DT album. In my top 5 favorites of all time. Took forever to click after I&W but when it did...BAM! I wouldn't change a
single second of it with the exception of SDV which I sometimes skip.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #108 on: July 25, 2013, 10:09:25 AM »
If you`re a newbie, you got to understand this:

I&W, AWAKE, SFAM AND SDOIT ARE PERFECTION.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #109 on: July 25, 2013, 10:12:57 AM »
I'd disagree about SFAM.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #110 on: July 25, 2013, 10:21:08 AM »
Quote from: LBC. on July 25, 2013, 10:09:25 AM
If you`re a newbie, you got to understand this:

I&W, AWAKE, SFAM AND SDOIT ARE PERFECTION.

Cuz, you know, music isn't taste-subjective or anything  ::)
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #111 on: July 25, 2013, 10:35:51 AM »
I don't find any DT album perfect. I&W and Awake come very close, though.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #112 on: July 25, 2013, 12:07:39 PM »
Quote from: LBC. on July 25, 2013, 10:09:25 AM
If you`re a newbie, you got to understand this:

I&W, AWAKE, SFAM AND SDOIT ARE PERFECTION.
No they're not, 6:00 has an old lady rapping over the top of it.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #113 on: July 25, 2013, 12:10:24 PM »
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #114 on: July 25, 2013, 12:18:29 PM »
Quote from: Joshin U on July 25, 2013, 08:47:52 AM
Quote from: Voices on July 25, 2013, 08:35:32 AM
Really can't rank awake songs. Well, at least I can't...
I admit that I spent some time listening to it to reach the point that it clicked me...after that happened, Awake is one of my favorite albuns from DT.

I admit, I'm having some trouble understanding this post 100%   :-\

My english is poor. I can't rank Awake songs, that's enough.  :-X
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #115 on: July 25, 2013, 12:39:40 PM »
Quote from: robwebster on July 25, 2013, 12:07:39 PM
... 6:00 has an old lady rapping over the top of it.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #116 on: July 26, 2013, 12:30:30 AM »
After being on the fence for many years as to whether I&W or Awake was my favorite DT album, I finally settled on Awake a couple of years ago.

I think every song is strong, and the album flows very well. I really love the darker, more metal feel introduced on this album. I'm a big fan of the atmospheric sounds that KM used on this album. It's kind of surprising to hear that he was very detached during the making of Awake, considering his contributions, which I consider to be pretty good.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #117 on: July 26, 2013, 12:43:26 AM »
I rank Awake as my fave DT album, although my fave songs are from other albums.  But as a whole, and its listenability, Awake from front to back is their best album.

(Subject to change on Sept 24th)
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #118 on: July 26, 2013, 05:19:44 AM »
Quote from: Joshin U on July 25, 2013, 10:21:08 AM
Quote from: LBC. on July 25, 2013, 10:09:25 AM
If you`re a newbie, you got to understand this:

I&W, AWAKE, SFAM AND SDOIT ARE PERFECTION.

Cuz, you know, music isn't taste-subjective or anything  ::)

LBC is really good in stating his own opinon as a fact :|



On topic: Awake is awesome. My fourth favoutite DT album after SFAM, 8VM and TOT.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #119 on: July 26, 2013, 09:17:29 AM »
I loved when I first listened to it. I went like "wow, this one is better than I&W". Well, today I don't like it. It just didn't stand the test of time for me. I don't know what happened.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #120 on: July 26, 2013, 09:47:59 AM »
Quote from: tiagodon on July 26, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
I loved when I first listened to it. I went like "wow, this one is better than I&W". Well, today I don't like it. It just didn't stand the test of time for me. I don't know what happened.

I thought you only have been into them for a couple of months? How can you talk about the "test of time"?
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #121 on: July 26, 2013, 10:01:14 AM »
Quote from: aprilethereal on July 26, 2013, 09:47:59 AM
Quote from: tiagodon on July 26, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
I loved when I first listened to it. I went like "wow, this one is better than I&W". Well, today I don't like it. It just didn't stand the test of time for me. I don't know what happened.

I thought you only have been into them for a couple of months? How can you talk about the "test of time"?

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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #122 on: July 26, 2013, 10:02:50 AM »
Quote from: aprilethereal on July 26, 2013, 09:47:59 AM
Quote from: tiagodon on July 26, 2013, 09:17:29 AM
I loved when I first listened to it. I went like "wow, this one is better than I&W". Well, today I don't like it. It just didn't stand the test of time for me. I don't know what happened.

I thought you only have been into them for a couple of months? How can you talk about the "test of time"?

One year now. I started to listen to all their albums chronologically... Since last august. And all I've been doing is listening to DT over and over again. I guess I have listened to all of their albums 20 times each so far... Awake fell during this process...
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #123 on: July 26, 2013, 10:15:52 AM »
Awake is an album that takes a lot of time to get into.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #124 on: August 12, 2013, 10:54:24 AM »
I'll always love Awake. Such a GOOD sounding album (kick ass drum/bass sound & performance, quadruple tracked badass guitars..) and James' singing is unreal - the highs of Innocence Faded especially, hearing and seeing him nailing it on Score many years later was pure joy. As a whole, I think Awake is Dream Theater's most distinctive album. It made a bold move, getting rid of the light, shiny qualities of I&W, almost entirely in favor of a dark approach.

I've always thought DT were the most interesting when they're operating a bit outside of their comfort zone. That's why I'm a bit more fond of records like Awake, FII and SDOIT than for example SFAM or ADTOE.




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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #125 on: August 12, 2013, 01:08:48 PM »
my favorite album too. At first I really didn't like it that much because of the airy string sounds from moore and the weird popping snare and labrie gritty voice all the time. but the more I listened to it, the more I started to love it, and all those things I just mentioned became fitting and added to the experience.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #126 on: August 12, 2013, 01:49:25 PM »
Awake is my 3rd favourite DT album probably. It has JLB's best vocals, the best mix, some of the best keyboards and some awesome songs. The only reasons that it's in 3rd place are that I generally like the songs on 6DOIT and I&W more (with some exceptions of course) and that the atmosphere is so... different that I can't always listen to it.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #127 on: August 13, 2013, 04:03:23 AM »
Quote from: Onno on August 12, 2013, 01:49:25 PM
the atmosphere is so... different that I can't always listen to it.

This is the reason why it is "only" #4 for me
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #128 on: August 13, 2013, 07:31:17 AM »
1. Space-Dye Vest
2. 6:00
3 The Mirror
4. Lie
4. Voices
4. Caught In A Web
4. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
4. The Silent Man
4. Scarred
10. Erotomania
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #129 on: August 13, 2013, 08:09:28 AM »
Quote from: aprilethereal on August 13, 2013, 04:03:23 AM
Quote from: Onno on August 12, 2013, 01:49:25 PM
the atmosphere is so... different that I can't always listen to it.
This is the reason why it is "only" #4 for me
The atmosphere is part of the reason it's my #1 :D
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #130 on: August 13, 2013, 08:34:11 AM »
Awake was the album which made me fall totally in love with DT; I had already listened to I&W but it hadn't really clicked with me. I actually bought the cassette version and the first time I listened to it I was blown away. I wasn't sure it was the same singer of I&W due to the different vocal approach.
Then when, thanks to a friend, I discovered that the CD version had another song on it and it turned out to be the one I liked the most, for me the album reached perfection.
It has a great album opener, a great instrumental, very dark and intense songs like Voices and Scarred, and the last three songs of the album for me are my favorite way to close an album ever.
JLB is incredible, especially in LSOAD and IF. I remember listening to innocent faded over and over and wondering how could it be possible for anybody to sing like that.
Moreover, I really love how the samples are used, especially 6:00 and the parts from "a room with a view" in SDV.
Another thing I like a lot is that there are concise songs instead of songs long just for the sake of being long; I hope this will be true also for DT12.
I love most of what DT has released afterwards, but no album is for me a musical journey so emotional as Awake. For sure the fact I fell in love with it when I was younger makes it closer to my heart.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #131 on: August 13, 2013, 08:47:45 AM »
Quote from: ? on August 13, 2013, 08:09:28 AM
Quote from: aprilethereal on August 13, 2013, 04:03:23 AM
Quote from: Onno on August 12, 2013, 01:49:25 PM
the atmosphere is so... different that I can't always listen to it.
This is the reason why it is "only" #4 for me
The atmosphere is part of the reason it's my #1 :D
Well, the atmosphere is superb and makes it a standout album, but I'm not always in the mood for such an atmosphere.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #132 on: August 13, 2013, 09:22:33 AM »
SDV
Scarred
6:00
Voices
Caught In A Web
The Mirror
Erotomania
Innocence Faded
Lie
Lifting Shadows
Silent Man
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #133 on: August 13, 2013, 09:36:50 AM »
I'm not sure I could rank them, since I rate the best songs similarly, so I'll go with the tried and true DTF tier system.

Great-
The Mirror
Caught In A Web
Innocence Faded
Voices
The Silent Man

Good-
Erotomania
6:00

Welcome to the wasteland-
Lie
Lifting Shadows
Scarred
Space Dye Vest


Wasn't that informative?
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #134 on: August 13, 2013, 09:56:00 AM »
I love it from 6:00 until The Silent Man (minus Erotomania), but the end drags for too long. It's in the middle on my DT ranking list.
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #135 on: August 13, 2013, 09:58:40 AM »
I think the only thing that would make me love the album a lot more if it was ordered like this:

6:00
Erotomania
Voices
Silent Man
Caught In A Web
Innocence Faded
Lifting Shadows
Scarred
The Mirror
Lie
Space Dye


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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #136 on: August 13, 2013, 11:20:50 AM »
Ranking:

1. Scarred
2. Voices
3. Space-Dye Vest
4. 6:00
5. Erotomania
6. The Mirror
7. The Silent Man
8. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
9. Caught in a Web
10. Lie
11. Innocence Faded
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #137 on: August 14, 2013, 02:55:24 AM »
Okay let's do this:

1. Space-Dye Vest
2. The Mirror
3. 6:00
4. Scarred
5. The Silent Man
6. Innocence Faded
7. Caught In A Web
8. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
9. Lie
10. Erotomania
11. Voices
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #138 on: August 14, 2013, 02:57:40 AM »
Alrighty:

Scarred
Voices / Space Dye Vest

Erotomania
Lifting Shadows Off A Drea
6:00
The Mirror
The Silent Man
Innocence Faded
Lie
Caught In A Web
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Re: Discovering "Awake"
« Reply #139 on: August 14, 2013, 09:29:41 AM »
Quote from: aprilethereal on August 14, 2013, 02:55:24 AM
Okay let's do this:

1. Space-Dye Vest
2. The Mirror
3. 6:00
4. Scarred
5. The Silent Man
6. Innocence Faded
7. Caught In A Web
8. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
9. Lie
10. Erotomania
11. Voices


You  are the worse kind of person
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

-BlobVanDam on "Scarred"
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