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https://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
(https://i.imgur.com/l6gPg.png)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-10/jobs-died-at-home-of-respiratory-arrest-tied-to-cancer-1-.html
Steve Jobs Died at Home of Respiratory Arrest
By Karen Gullo - Oct 10, 2011 5:03 PM GMT-0500
Steve Jobs died at home in Palo Alto, California, of respiratory arrest caused by a pancreatic tumor at about 3 p.m. on Oct. 5, according to his death certificate. His occupation was listed as “entrepreneur” in the “high tech” business.
The Santa Clara County Public Health Department in San Jose, California, issued the document today, listing respiratory arrest as the immediate cause of death, with “metastatic pancreas neuroendocrine tumor” as the underlying cause. There was no autopsy performed.
Apple Inc. (AAPL) announced Oct. 5 that Jobs, 56, died without providing any details about the time and place. The iconic chief executive officer of the iPhone maker resigned his position Aug. 24. He had been diagnosed in 2003 with a neuroendocrine tumor, a rare form of pancreatic cancer, and underwent a liver transplant in 2009.
Jobs was buried at a non-denominational cemetery in Santa Clara County on Oct. 7. The name of the person who filled out the certificate was blacked out. [more in the link above]
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
So today Apple will be unveiling its new apparatus/iTablet/iPhone that it will not surprise me. Anyone else will follow this news?
On a related note:
https://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/frantic_steve_jobs_stays_up
Science & Technology
Frantic Steve Jobs Stays Up All Night Designing Apple Tablet
January 27, 2010 | Issue 46•04
CUPERTINO, CA—Claiming that he completely forgot about the much-hyped electronic device until the last minute, a frantic Steve Jobs reportedly stayed up all night Tuesday in a desperate effort to design Apple's new tablet computer. "Come on, Steve, just think—think, dammit—you're running out of time," the exhausted CEO said as he glued nine separate iPhones to the back of a plastic cafeteria tray. "Okay, yeah, this will work. This will definitely work. Just need to write 'tablet' on this little strip of masking tape here and I'm golden. Oh, come on, you piece of shit! Just stick already!" Middle-of-the-night sources reported that Jobs then began work on double-spacing his Keynote presentation and increasing the font size to make it appear longer.
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Actually, despite my dislike for Apple, I'm quite interested to see what it is.
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I look forward to finding it a waste of money.
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i love the onion sooo much.
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I saw an article on CNN.com a few days ago about this one guy who will buy anything Apple puts out regardless of whether or not it's useful. He says he'll get at least one of these, whether or not he needs it
Oh, and he hopes it'll be between 500-1000 USD, which I :lol 'd pretty hard at
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Hopefully, it's the MacBook Wheel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
:neverusethis:
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Hopefully, it's the MacBook Wheel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
:neverusethis:
:rollin :rollin
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Hopefully, it's the MacBook Wheel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
:neverusethis:
Classic :tup
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So it starts in half an hour. I guess I'll tune in to engadget or something.
I don't think I'll want it, but I kind of want to know what it will be.
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https://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/the-apple-ipad/8#c25022778
Looks like shit, and the name is lolworthy.
Take the iPhone, make it 5 times bigger, and there you have it. The iTampon.
edit: and the bezel on that thing is huge. If it was much thinner I would probably like the look of it more.
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https://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/the-apple-ipad/8#c25022778
Looks like shit, and the name is lolworthy.
Take the iPhone, make it 5 times bigger, and there you have it. The iTampon.
I hope the iPad fails :P
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Jobs: iPad tablet will have a nearly full-size touch-screen keyboard. "It's a dream to type on," he says.
:rollin
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I still think Maddox is right about all these stupid touch-screens. Nothing beats tactile response.
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Hmm. So far I don't see more than regular tablet PC that happens to run Apple's OS.
IMHO, the real issue that needs to be solved is the fact that, to make a portable browser/computer, they need to somehow make the display foldable/shrinkable etc. so that you can still carry it around easily, and bring it to big size when needed. I mean, how are you gonna carry that monster around with you? And if you happen to have a bag that size, why not just get a regular laptop with a big screen?
And yeah, tactile response FTW.
rumborak
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I still think Maddox is right about all these stupid touch-screens. Nothing beats tactile response.
Yeah, I can't imagine trying to type something of any considerable length on a touch screen.
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Apple says there's room for a third device between the smartphone and the laptop, and that it has to be better at tasks like browsing, email, photos, e-books, and videos than both -- netbooks, says Steve, "aren't better at anything."
wut
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And apparently all the iPhone apps are usable on it. The downside? They're still in iPhone resolution. To make them fullscreen it has to pixel-double. Which means you either have this silly little app in the center of the tablet, or a big blurry one.
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Dare I ask whether it has phone functionality? And if so, how you use it like a phone?
rumborak
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Dare I ask whether it has phone functionality? And if so, how you use it like a phone?
rumborak
Can you imagine heated arguments taking place over that thing? The guy's holding it in front of him, and the girl's face is in the viewscreen like a webcam. All the sudden he yells "DON'T TALK TO ME THAT WAY YOU WHORE!!!" and shakes the tablet around wildly like a little kid. And then, he hurls it across the room like a discuss. That's when you walk in the door and miraculously catch it. You look into the screen, she looks through her screen at you, and instant love is born. Hopefully the first guy will let you leave with his iPad. Just tell him it would have been broken anyway if you didn't catch it.
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I don't think so, or it hasn't been announced.
https://i.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/
The game developed for it looks kind of snazzy. I'll give it that.
edit: Actually Rumborak, they mentioned earlier that it has a microphone and speaker, so we'll see...
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I really hope it does have phone functionality for my own personal amusement. Seeing someone with that slammed against the side of their head will always be hilarious.
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I'm kind of disappointed really. I was hoping it wouldn't be a tablet and they would bring out something interesting.
Edit: From the comments:
Ipad?!?
How about:
iSanitaryNapkin
iTampon
iAlways
iDivaCup ( known to users as the iDC)
iInfinity, with revolutionary new (absorbant) technology
:lol :lol
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Any guesses on when either Jobs or other people will say Apple keeps revolutionizing the industry even though tablets have been out for years?
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I thin it's cool you can change the font of the books in the e-reader.
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I thin it's cool you can change the font of the books in the e-reader.
:|
Isn't that a bit aiming low?
rumborak
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Any guesses on when either Jobs or other people will say Apple keeps revolutionizing the industry even though tablets have been out for years?
Are you saying that Apple wasn't being revolutionary when they combined an iPod, a phone, and an "Internet communications device" and thus creating the iPhone? :omg: :omg:
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Well, like it or not, but the iPhone has completely dominated the smartphone market for years. And most other phones simply copy what Apple has done.
rumborak
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Any guesses on when either Jobs or other people will say Apple keeps revolutionizing the industry even though tablets have been out for years?
In fairness, Apple's strength isn't coming up with new technology. It's taking already-existing technology and figuring out how to make it digestible for the general public. Apple shouldn't be insulted for that, because it's a legitimate skill. What I don't like is when Steve Jobs presents something like this or the Macbook Air, everyone knows it's stupid, and the tech dorks act like it's revolutionary just because Apple made it.
Like Rumborak said before me. The iPhone is huge. Everyone knew it was going to be huge, even if it's not actually that great. The iPad on the other hand is going to be irrelevant.
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Apple is also the only computer company who understands the value of a good user interface. Remember the shit interface MP3 players had before the iPod came out? You had the impression some computer geeks had soldered together the whole thing, and then slapped a GUI on it with the paradigm "If I can use it, everybody can".
rumborak
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I had one of the pre-iPod mp3 players, and I know what you mean. I could learn it because I'm a computer nerd, but I dunno how other people would have handled it.
What Apple also deserves credit for it simplifying tasks that theoretically could be complicated. Have you ever tried connecting a Windows computer to the internet? There is no nightmare more horrible. Connecting an Apple computer to the internet on the other hand is a very simple process. I think Apple's love of proprietary components is lame, but they make completely sure those components work together perfectly.
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All in all, computers used to be mainly for people wanted to use them and learned how to do so. It wasn't easy, but it was nice to have so much control over all the little things you did. Remember when spending a lot of time on a computer made you a nerd? Well, now everyone is using computers, so it's easier to give them simplified interfaces than for them to explore and customize.
3G plans: $15 a month for 250 MB of data....or $30 for unlimited.
prices for each model:
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0378-rm-eng.jpg)
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The sad thing is, someone already did an apple tablet, and it was better than what apple did.
https://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook
In any case, the only thing I can see this working as is as a netbook alternative. It could work really well as one, but I reckon the could have done with making it a bit smaller.
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Are you fucking kidding me
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0384-rm-eng.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_zI21XEo0Q
"What this thing does is extraordinary. It browses the web."
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Any guesses on when either Jobs or other people will say Apple keeps revolutionizing the industry even though tablets have been out for years?
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0426-rm-eng.jpg)
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I still don't understand what the point of this thing is.
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Jordan Rudess is gonna have a field day with this. I can't wait to see what kind of music apps are developed.
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Jordan Rudess is gonna have a field day with this. I can't wait to see what kind of music apps are developed.
:lol
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BEBOT XL
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So it's basically a huge ipod/iphone?
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Looks like it. But without the phone.
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So it's basically a huge ipod/iphone?
It's a revolution. *jazz hands*
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Can you imagine heated arguments taking place over that thing? The guy's holding it in front of him, and the girl's face is in the viewscreen like a webcam. All the sudden he yells "DON'T TALK TO ME THAT WAY YOU WHORE!!!" and shakes the tablet around wildly like a little kid. And then, he hurls it across the room like a discuss. That's when you walk in the door and miraculously catch it. You look into the screen, she looks through her screen at you, and instant love is born. Hopefully the first guy will let you leave with his iPad. Just tell him it would have been broken anyway if you didn't catch it.
:hefdaddy
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Looks like it. But without the phone.
Yeah, so it's just a giant iPod Touch. I don't understand the excitement. ???
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I can see this catching on. Let's face it guys; the vast majority of people use a computer for email, internet browsing, viewing/organizing pictures, watching videos, and playing some basic, time killing games. This is a slick, small computer that does exactly that without all of the extras they won't need. It's not a computer to do work on, it's a computer to kill time on, which is all most people do on their computers at home. The great thing about Apple is that it makes it's interface so damn easy to use. The average computer user doesn't give a crap about being able to manually organize their computer. They just want to push a button and get what they want. The only real drawback I see to this is the price. You can get a basic laptop which will do more for less.
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Title made me think this was about an actual apple, and I was trying to think how an apple could suprise someone
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Title made me think this was about an actual apple, and I was trying to think how an apple could suprise someone
For some reason (probably because it's been the subject of study around my school the the last week), my first thought was of the Isaac Newton apple.
It sure surprised him.
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Does it come with a stand or something? If not, then it's considerably less convenient than a laptop as you need a wall to lean it against.
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I imagine that will come in the form of an accessory :P
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I can see this catching on. Let's face it guys; the vast majority of people use a computer for email, internet browsing, viewing/organizing pictures, watching videos, and playing some basic, time killing games. This is a slick, small computer that does exactly that without all of the extras they won't need. It's not a computer to do work on, it's a computer to kill time on, which is all most people do on their computers at home. The great thing about Apple is that it makes it's interface so damn easy to use. The average computer user doesn't give a crap about being able to manually organize their computer. They just want to push a button and get what they want. The only real drawback I see to this is the price. You can get a basic laptop which will do more for less.
You hailed the nail right on the nead.
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BEBOT XL
I'll buy it!
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I'll pass up. Nothing that I need. Those who are willing to buy it, whatever their motives are, go ahead. Those who aren't, fine. I have what I need, so there's no need for me to buy this thing.
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I've never understood the need for tablet PCs at all.
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I've never understood the need for tablet PCs at all.
Me neither. But in my opinion, it might be an idea that might develop into something bigger in the future, with adapted/function-serving technology etc. But as of today, it's rather superfluous than really useful.
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I've never understood the need for tablet PCs at all.
Me neither. But in my opinion, it might be an idea that might develop into something bigger in the future, with adapted/function-serving technology etc. But as of today, it's rather superfluous than really useful.
I agree
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In any case, the only thing I can see this working as is as a netbook alternative.
Does this iPad come with a pen? Otherwise, who's gonna bother tipping class notes when you don't have a screen in front of you? Might as well break your neck.
If you are an artist, I can see this being handy to you (but if it has a pen), like the Cintiq (https://www.wacom.com/cintiq). Elseways, what do you need this for? Are they gonna try to compete against Amazon for e-books?
More detailed info on this iPad: https://i.gizmodo.com/5458292/the-apple-tablet-is-here-and-its-called-the-ipad
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Any guesses on when either Jobs or other people will say Apple keeps revolutionizing the industry even though tablets have been out for years?
Yes, unfortunately, this will happen as it has several times in the past. People who laughed at tablets and e-readers will suddenly think they're awesome, and that Apple invented the entire concept. They'll pay significantly higher prices for it, in spite of the cheaper competing products being just as good, if not better.
I can't imagine trying to type on a non-physical keyboard. I touchtype, and as anyone who touchtypes knows, it's pretty much impossible to do without tactile response.
Also, the name sounds like someone with a brain injury trying to say iPod.
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I can see this catching on. Let's face it guys; the vast majority of people use a computer for email, internet browsing, viewing/organizing pictures, watching videos, and playing some basic, time killing games. This is a slick, small computer that does exactly that without all of the extras they won't need. It's not a computer to do work on, it's a computer to kill time on, which is all most people do on their computers at home. The great thing about Apple is that it makes it's interface so damn easy to use. The average computer user doesn't give a crap about being able to manually organize their computer. They just want to push a button and get what they want. The only real drawback I see to this is the price. You can get a basic laptop which will do more for less.
...so it's a netbook?
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Also, the name sounds like someone with a brain injury trying to say iPod.
:rollin :rollin
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I thought "eh, looks okay", until I saw it can't multitask.
Er, what? :facepalm:
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I thought "eh, looks okay", until I saw it can't multitask.
Er, what? :facepalm:
(https://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2065/1261130720147.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/YH5ev.png)
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I still think Maddox is right about all these stupid touch-screens. Nothing beats tactile response.
Agreed. I could never get an iTouch or an iPhone for that reason, let alone an iPad.
So it's basically a huge ipod/iphone?
Looks like it. But without the phone.
Also, this article (https://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/01/27/apple-tablet-computer.html) seems to suggest that it will have phone capabilities.
(https://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/ipad.jpg?w=500&h=500)
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*snip*
Apple really should have seen this coming. I mean I can see the resemblance between POD and PAD, but someone must have snickered a little bit at the board meeting.
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Wow, reading that article that emindead posted, this thing looks like an epic fail.
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The more I hear I'm just wondering, does it run OSX or a modified iPhone OS? If the former, ok we're talking. If the latter, aaaaaaahhahahahahhahahahaha.
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The more I hear I'm just wondering, does it run OSX or a modified iPhone OS? If the former, ok we're talking. If the latter, aaaaaaahhahahahahhahahahaha.
It's a modified iPhone OS. Many lulz ensued when I heard that.
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Well tablet PCs running a PC OS didn't work out too well, did they? The no multitasking thing is fucking ridiculous, though.
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So it sounds like Apple just released a version of the iPhone that's almost as big as a laptop, yet not as useful as one. Awesome.
The only benefit I see of this is the larger touchscreen, which will be great if they release some apps specifically for it. The iPhone has some apps that make great use of the touchscreen, but that screen is just too small to reach the full potential of the ideas people are trying to use it for.
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I think it's got potential. Apple will iterate and make it better, quickly, and developers have a really interesting new plaything.
It's positioned a lot better than people seem to think too. Netbooks and e-readers like the Kindle have been pretty damn popular, and this looks about 50 billion times better than both.
Apple haters are lame. "Oh no, they make popular products and the media likes to cover them. Let's dismiss everything they do out of hand!"
The name is fucking awful though.
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I think it's got potential. Apple will iterate and make it better, quickly, and developers have a really interesting new plaything.
To me this is really the only thing that sets the iPhone and no doubt the iPad apart from other similar devices. It's not that there's anything special about the technology, it's that third party developers care enough to make a ton of innovative programs for it. A touchscreen phone in itself doesn't appeal to me at all. But throw in the fact that it can be a musical instrument, a guitar tuner, a multi track recorder, a game console, and suddenly the deal looks pretty sweet. Just don't try typing more than two characters on it, lol.
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Dare I ask whether it has phone functionality? And if so, how you use it like a phone?
rumborak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYLMk8xplqw&feature=related
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It can't multitask? As long as it doesn't have this function, the iPad will never have a chance of being an adequate laptop surrogate.
Still, as I said before, its potential shouldn't be overlooked or dismissed because of it.
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Can't multi-task? Jeeeeez. Even the Android phones can multi-task.
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Can't multi-task? Jeeeeez. Even the Android phones can multi-task.
In my opinion, multi-tasking on a smartphone, while being a very supportive feature, isn't as necessary as on a tablet PC. Sure, sometimes it bugs me that the iPhone doesn't have this ability, but I can get over it. On a tablet PC, however, I consider it essential, since it should contain the same functional basics as a laptop/PC.
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Trust me, I agree with you.
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Honestly, this was just a disappointment for me. I expected some different design, but this is basically a fu**ing iPhone enlarged version. Screw you apple. Though it's cheaper than I expected. :P
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So I saw that Moses brought the tablet down from the mountain yesterday. No big woop though.
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come again?
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Copy of a reddit interview:
Why? why release essentially a huge ipod touch?
They wanted to hit the market of people who own computers for work but want a recreational device that was larger than an iPod Touch. It's the same market the Wii is hitting-- people who want outrageously simple devices that does a few of the things they care about well.
(Paraphrasing here) What they did was design from the end-user experience backwards. They started by looking at how the people who purchase eBook readers and netbooks interact on a day-to-day with technology, and realized that most people in this group have low interest in learning new technologies, so it doesn't need to replace their usual computers but rather replace everything else they own with a computer.
why no multitasking?
Because they want to give the end user the impression that the few things it does it does very smoothly. To allow it to run multiple software the way most netbooks do means it would slow down the speed by quite a bit. The experience for the end users must be completely flawless. They want to create something that doesn't feel like a computer.
why no flash?
The same reason Apple didn't want flash for the iPhone. (He didn't elaborate].
has apple grown cocky that they feel they can just release anything onto the masses and feel it'll sell?
Quite the opposite. Apple is realizing that the competition from Windows is getting tough, they need to hit the market that neither companies have really touched on (that is, the casual users who might own a PC for work but doesn't have a smartphone) before Windows does. The timing is also geared towards this.
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I love Apple, yet I still think this thing is fucking rediculous. It, to me, is very much just an enlarged iPhone.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs
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why no multitasking?
Because they want to give the end user the impression that the few things it does it does very smoothly. To allow it to run multiple software the way most netbooks do means it would slow down the speed by quite a bit. The experience for the end users must be completely flawless. They want to create something that doesn't feel like a computer.
Suuuure. Only that Android successfully solved the problem, so this explanation doesn't fly. Reality is that they didn't want to write another OS, simple as that.
why no flash?
The same reason Apple didn't want flash for the iPhone. (He didn't elaborate].
Well, Adobe will soon release Flash for Android. So, there you go.
rumborak
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I am really interested in this. Seeing I only game on consoles now, this would be a good replacement for my laptop, at least in terms of needing something on the go. I'm probable going to wait for the second gen to come out with a price drop, just like everything else Apple has ever released.
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Apple haters are lame. "Oh no, they make popular products and the media likes to cover them. Let's dismiss everything they do out of hand!"
Not at all, I'm not a huge Apple fan, but I fully admit that they create good stuff and I think the iPhone is great. But this new product is pathetic and it's genuinely hilarious that people are getting so excited about it.
Like Blob says, it's an iPod Touch that is the size of a laptop but can't do as much.
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The name alone allows a part inside of me to be convinced it's actually a joke.
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Like Blob says, it's an iPod Touch that is the size of a laptop but can't do as much.
(https://imgur.com/oRffH.jpg)
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Like Blob says, it's an iPod Touch that is the size of a laptop but can't do as much.
(https://imgur.com/oRffH.jpg)
haha.
I don't see the point of this device at all. I love my itouch but part of the reason is that it fits in my pocket and is very convienient. This seems like niether plus more money. UPad sounds pretty lame too.
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I laughed hard at the video, where he is showing off all those features that have been there on the ipod/iphone ever since the first touch screen one!
Look, it rotates the display when you rotate it!
Look, it has a keyboard!
Look, you can press hyperlinks with your finger!
He could have taken out all the old stuff and done that presentation in about 30 secs.
"look, it has a bigger screen than an ipod. That is all."
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I still don't understand why they decided to upscale the iPhone OS, instead of down-scaling OS X. A non-multitasking OS in a device of that size is just ridiculous. It was a mere necessity on the iPhone, but on a tablet it's like putting a VW Beetle engine into a Porsche with the thought "it worked really well in the Beetle".
rumborak
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4
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:lol
Quote from one of the comments: "Who's Hitler? :/". I hope he/she was joking :|
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From Tycho:
That iPad presentation had to be the worst thing I've even seen on on the Apple stage. There is a part where they - I am not making a joke - there is a part where they try to make creating spreadsheets seem awesome. Jilted may be the word. Of course, we're at the second wave of commentary now, the reflexive defense phase, but I've seen this practiced arc too many times to feel its pull. Apple didn't make a case for the device.
The end.
Also, just saw this:
(https://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9489/1264779613199.jpg)
Thinking about it more, I can see a good market for something like this, but in the end you're paying two to three times the price of a netbook for something with far lesser capabilities. Like rumborak said, there's absolutely no reason for this thing not to use OSX, besides Apple not wanting to take the time to actually make a new OS. Netbooks have trouble because they really can't handle full-on OS's. The solution isn't to load one that's designed for a phone.
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:lol That pic is great, although the iPad does actually have a headphone socket.
However, why on earth does it only have mono sound? That's just pathetic, 30 years ago walkmans had stereo sound.
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However, why on earth does it only have mono sound? That's just pathetic, 30 years ago walkmans had stereo sound.
Tell Apple to reinvent the Walkman!
WAIT!
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:lol That pic is great, although the iPad does actually have a headphone socket.
However, why on earth does it only have mono sound? That's just pathetic, 30 years ago walkmans had stereo sound.
The pic isn't right - it's in stereo. I was wondering at the lack of USB ports, but then remembered that it's really a glorified phone.
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:lol That pic is great, although the iPad does actually have a headphone socket.
However, why on earth does it only have mono sound? That's just pathetic, 30 years ago walkmans had stereo sound.
The pic isn't right - it's in stereo. I was wondering at the lack of USB ports, but then remembered that it's really a glorified phone.
Apple's website says it has "Mono audio" under the Accessibility heading, so not sure what it means otherwise. https://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
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I was talking about this with a friend, and what mystified him is why Apple would make this product a glorified iPod touch instead of a legitimate computing device in the form of a pad.
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:lol That pic is great, although the iPad does actually have a headphone socket.
However, why on earth does it only have mono sound? That's just pathetic, 30 years ago walkmans had stereo sound.
The pic isn't right - it's in stereo. I was wondering at the lack of USB ports, but then remembered that it's really a glorified phone.
Apple's website says it has "Mono audio" under the Accessibility heading, so not sure what it means otherwise. https://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Perhaps it's the speaker?
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:lol That pic is great, although the iPad does actually have a headphone socket.
However, why on earth does it only have mono sound? That's just pathetic, 30 years ago walkmans had stereo sound.
The pic isn't right - it's in stereo. I was wondering at the lack of USB ports, but then remembered that it's really a glorified phone.
Apple's website says it has "Mono audio" under the Accessibility heading, so not sure what it means otherwise. https://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Perhaps it's the speaker?
I think that's what it's referring to. Under 'Input and Output' it says stereo headphone jack.
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A friend of mine is excited about this because it has "apps". I tried explaining to him that with other tablets, or with any netbook or laptop, you can get these things called "programs" and that there are far more of those available. That I even have to simplify the argument that much for him is kind of sad.
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A friend of mine is excited about this because it has "apps". I tried explaining to him that with other tablets, or with any netbook or laptop, you can get these things called "programs" and that there are far more of those available. That I even have to simplify the argument that much for him is kind of sad.
:facepalm:
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A friend of mine is excited about this because it has "apps". I tried explaining to him that with other tablets, or with any netbook or laptop, you can get these things called "programs" and that there are far more of those available. That I even have to simplify the argument that much for him is kind of sad.
Want to simplfy your argument so even idiots will understand??
I bet there's an app for that.
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This hysteria about "apps" is totally ridiculous imo. I mean, some of them really seem useful, no doubt, but so many iPhone users (and not just them) just go unnecessarily wild about those.
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Apps on a phone are great. On the iPad where you view it in the original resolution or pixel-doubled? Not so great anymore.
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Apps on phones can be handy but a lot of them are just a waste of time.
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On the subject of the iPad, one of the criticisms thrown at the device was the fact that it doesn't support Flash, here Jobs once again threw out his toys, along with a couple of insults.
"They (Adobe) have all this potential to do interesting things but they just refuse to do it. They don't do anything with the approaches that Apple is taking, like Carbon. Apple does not support Flash because it is so buggy", he is reported as saying. "Whenever a Mac crashes more often than not it's because of Flash. No one will be using Flash".
Source: https://thefrontline.v3.co.uk/2010/02/jobs-rants-at-g.html
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Funny, I've never had problems with Flash on my PC. :biggrin:
/obligatory post
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"They (Adobe) have all this potential to do interesting things but they just refuse to do it. They don't do anything with the approaches that Apple is taking, like Carbon.
That's because no one gives a shit about them.
Funny, I've never had problems with Flash on my PC. :biggrin:
/obligatory post
Edit: man he came off like a total dick in that story:
According to a write up on Wired, Jobs suggested that Google may need to change its mantra from 'don't be evil' to something far less flattering, during a rant about the iPhone. Wired got the skinny from someone attending a big Apple meeting, reporting that Steve said this, "They entered the phone business. Make no mistake they want to kill the iPhone. We won't let them. This don't be evil mantra: It's bullshit."
Wow, someone sounds a bit paranoid. Although another Apple'er has popped into the comments to inform us that Jobs actually said that the mantra was 'crap', we think thats just nit picking. The message is the same, whatever the choice of words. 'How dare someone else try and sell a phone'.
Jobs is of course reacting to the release of Google's Nexus One, which has apparently angered him by being fairly cool, and by actually having a decent reception - unlike a cetain iPad.
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Apple CEO Steve Jobs unveiled Apple's new tablet computer, the iPad, during a presentation in San Francisco last week. Here are some of its features:
Awkward name enables Twitter users to make the same joke over and over and over again
Super slick design makes it impossible to hold, pick up, or stop from sliding down the street
Softly whimpers if left alone for too long
Maureen Dowd New York Times column generator
Photo album of the Jobs family summer vacation in Aruba
Free pair of black-rimmed glasses, turtleneck, and position at New York City architecture firm
Can withstand breezes up to 3 mph
To ensure that its users receive the constant public attention they crave, the iPad will emit the phrase "Hey, does that guy have an iPad?" every eight minutes
https://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/apple_finally_unveils_ipad
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I was gonna post that! DAMN YOU, SIGZ FOR SUBSCRIBING TO THE ONION ON FACEBOOK! :getoffmylawn:
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lolpwnt
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:lol That's brilliant.
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(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/prostheticsummer/12646379520031.jpg)
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:rollin
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(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/prostheticsummer/12646379520031.jpg)
:lol
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:lol
The HP Slate appears to be the one to go for:
(https://phandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/500x_slate_showdown_chart_final.jpg)
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(https://imgur.com/ul3mF.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/Spt9L.gif)
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I'm guessing Rudess will replace his visual set up with this.
I also heard that apple wants to make an ipad nano....they says its gonna be capable of making phone calls
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Hm, I bet they'll call it The iPhone!!
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*snip*
This is the most amazing thing in the history of ever.
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I just realized how much better it would have worked if they first released the iPad and then the iPhone.
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It still doesn't make the iPad not completely useless.
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It still doesn't make the iPad not completely useless.
Well, obviously it's not completely useless. I think it's more the fact that it's less useful than a lot of other products on the market, including the iPhone.
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But it's not meant to replace a smart phone or a laptop. Fair enough if you don't see the appeal in the device, but to slam it for not having the features of a different product category is stupid.
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But it's not meant to replace a smart phone or a laptop. Fair enough if you don't see the appeal in the device, but to slam it for not having the features of a different product category is stupid.
Well, actually most of us are slamming it for not having the features of other tablets that have been around for longer. :P
Also, wtf at you being the least cynical person in the thread. :lol I think we must have hit a time vortex or something.
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But it's not meant to replace a smart phone or a laptop. Fair enough if you don't see the appeal in the device, but to slam it for not having the features of a different product category is stupid.
I think we're slamming it because we're questioning why this product category even exists.
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You mean those completely unsuccessful tablets? They really should be trying harder to emulate those.
I'm less cynical because I understand what they're going for, and that it's not a device for dopey geeks who somehow find humour in a device running the iPhone OS over OS X. Also, that it's these same geeks who've manufactured the hype they're so tired of. Apple just has a press conference. The 2 years of speculation and hype are what made it a big deal.
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Get a PC.
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Scurvy, it would appear that you have received a visit from the apple version of Aunt Irma, in which case it is my pleasure to announce that the very same company have recently manufactured just the device to implement.
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But it's not meant to replace a smart phone or a laptop. Fair enough if you don't see the appeal in the device, but to slam it for not having the features of a different product category is stupid.
I'm slamming it because it doesn't have features that even my phone has. Not having multitasking is pretty piss poor for a tablet. They said they wanted to create something between the smartphone and the computer but it's pretty much just a scaled up smartphone (size wize, not feature wise).
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https://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/04/why_i_am_not_getting_an_ipad_becaus.html
looks like Apple is having supply issues and gave the iPads to retail stores instead of the pre-ordered folks
Stay classy, Apple.
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Quite a dick move, if I do say so myself.
Then again, who would even want one of those.
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Fuck, I was looking for my thread and apparently Sigz did find it. Thanks!
This is the interior of the iPad! :p
(https://imgur.com/It9To.png)
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:rollin :rollin
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(https://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs424.ash1/23494_382880420809_533275809_4387894_8286002_n.jpg)
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(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/S2LuPgoyXKI/AAAAAAABARc/AxYACkUZA3k/s400/ipad_01.jpg)
(https://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2010/02/ipad-funny.jpg)
(https://f00.inventorspot.com/images/ipadTT.preview.jpg)
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Hmm, I just don't see the iPad solving something that Netbooks or tablet PCs already couldn't. The iPhone was revolutionary, and it was clear at the first sight that it would be. The iPad, I don't know.
IMHO, the technology just isn't there yet (but it soon will be) that solves the size problem: Bigger than letter size to read comfortably from, and smaller than a postcard to carry it around.
And just using the iPhone OS is a very weird decision.
rumborak
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Honestly, as cheesy as this may sound, the "big" iPod Touch is actually pretty cool. It was underestimated how much cooler the big makes it.
I would use this instead of a laptop.
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I went to the Apple store today and held one and fell in love with it. It's fucking outstanding.
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I still see no reason to get this over a laptop or netbook, especially since Chrome OS is on it's way and Ubuntu already has a netbook-specific distribution. Oh yeah, and it won't cost you 700 bucks.
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I was hanging around the airport today after practicing some landings, and someone there had one. He had an app for aeronautical charts. When you realize that it replaces volumes of bound charts and figures, it's certainly worth it just for that purpose. Especially considering that aviation related functions are only a small part of what it can do.
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I was hanging around the airport today after practicing some landings, and someone there had one. He had an app for aeronautical charts. When you realize that it replaces volumes of bound charts and figures, it's certainly worth it just for that purpose. Especially considering that aviation related functions are only a small part of what it can do.
You can get that same app for the iPod Touch, which won't cost you $700.
A lot of people don't realize that if you're gonna get the iPhone for just the apps... why the fuck don't you get the iPod Touch?!?! Same goes for the iPad.
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I still see no reason to get this over a laptop or netbook, especially since Chrome OS is on it's way and Ubuntu already has a netbook-specific distribution. Oh yeah, and it won't cost you 700 bucks.
the cheapest model is $499 bro. Also, this is an outstanding secondary device. It won't replace a laptop (unless you do nothing but browsing and email)
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I still see no reason to get this over a laptop or netbook, especially since Chrome OS is on it's way and Ubuntu already has a netbook-specific distribution. Oh yeah, and it won't cost you 700 bucks.
the cheapest model is $499 bro. Also, this is an outstanding secondary device. It won't replace a laptop (unless you do nothing but browsing and email)
What does 'secondary device' even mean? Something you take on a train so you can browse facebook?
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I still see no reason to get this over a laptop or netbook, especially since Chrome OS is on it's way and Ubuntu already has a netbook-specific distribution. Oh yeah, and it won't cost you 700 bucks.
the cheapest model is $499 bro. Also, this is an outstanding secondary device. It won't replace a laptop (unless you do nothing but browsing and email)
But why bother with a secondary device when you could just have a Laptop that does everything.
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I still see no reason to get this over a laptop or netbook, especially since Chrome OS is on it's way and Ubuntu already has a netbook-specific distribution. Oh yeah, and it won't cost you 700 bucks.
the cheapest model is $499 bro. Also, this is an outstanding secondary device. It won't replace a laptop (unless you do nothing but browsing and email)
What does 'secondary device' even mean? Something you take on a train so you can browse facebook?
A net book can do that...
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I still see no reason to get this over a laptop or netbook, especially since Chrome OS is on it's way and Ubuntu already has a netbook-specific distribution. Oh yeah, and it won't cost you 700 bucks.
the cheapest model is $499 bro. Also, this is an outstanding secondary device. It won't replace a laptop (unless you do nothing but browsing and email)
But why bother with a secondary device when you could just have a Laptop that does everything.
Because someone doesn't want a laptop that does everything? Because they already have something like that but they find the iPad favorable for portable browsing and similar tasks? Why don't people buy MP3 players with more capacity than an iPod? Apple knows how to cater to certain audiences, and the iPad is tailored towards more of an older, affluent market.
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I still see no reason to get this over a laptop or netbook, especially since Chrome OS is on it's way and Ubuntu already has a netbook-specific distribution. Oh yeah, and it won't cost you 700 bucks.
the cheapest model is $499 bro. Also, this is an outstanding secondary device. It won't replace a laptop (unless you do nothing but browsing and email)
But why bother with a secondary device when you could just have a Laptop that does everything.
Because someone doesn't want a laptop that does everything? Because they already have something like that but they find the iPad favorable for portable browsing and similar tasks? Why don't people buy MP3 players with more capacity than an iPod? Apple knows how to cater to certain audiences, and the iPad is tailored towards more of an older, affluent market.
1. Spending 600+ (yes the cheapest is 500 but it has no 3G thus 'portable browsing' is pretty useless) just to browse the internet and play peggle on the train is ridiculous.
2. Apple knowing how to cater to a market doesn't make their products any better.
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Apple knowing how to cater to a market doesn't make their products any better.
While that's true, it's not about good products it's about money and Apple is raking it in.
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Everytime I see this thread title, I think about waking up one morning and seeing that theres an apple sitting on my dresser, just watching me.
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iPad=glorified iPod touch
Apple Lemmings are hysterical
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Everytime I see this thread title, I think about waking up one morning and seeing that theres an apple sitting on my dresser, just watching me.
Apple is watching you.
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I haven't read a bad iPad review from somebody who has one, or a good review from anyone that doesn't.
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I still see no reason to get this over a laptop or netbook, especially since Chrome OS is on it's way and Ubuntu already has a netbook-specific distribution. Oh yeah, and it won't cost you 700 bucks.
the cheapest model is $499 bro. Also, this is an outstanding secondary device. It won't replace a laptop (unless you do nothing but browsing and email)
But why bother with a secondary device when you could just have a Laptop that does everything.
Because someone doesn't want a laptop that does everything? Because they already have something like that but they find the iPad favorable for portable browsing and similar tasks? Why don't people buy MP3 players with more capacity than an iPod? Apple knows how to cater to certain audiences, and the iPad is tailored towards more of an older, affluent market.
1. Spending 600+ (yes the cheapest is 500 but it has no 3G thus 'portable browsing' is pretty useless) just to browse the internet and play peggle on the train is ridiculous.
2. Apple knowing how to cater to a market doesn't make their products any better.
Brilliant argument. I can see that logic is your strong point. I will now consult you when I need to know what the world wants.
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I have friends that use Macs, even they hate pro-Mac people.
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iPad=glorified iPod touch
Apple Lemmings are hysterical
You guys can hate all you want..it's not surprising when it comes to Apple.
For the record: I don't own an iPad, and I don't see myself buying one. I am not an Apple fanboy, I just see the logic in releasing this product...and know full well it's not for everyone.
With that out of the way, a lot of people are ignorant about the product. Glorified iPod touch? Excellent research, I can definitely tell from your post that you've put a lot of time and thought into your opinion.
The iPad has the potential to change a lot of the things we do. Imagine the possibilities of students having all their school books on one device. Imagine being a business owner and having a nice, elegant and professional way to present your product line to customers. I think anyone telling you that the iPad is the best thing that ever happened and is better than a computer is probably delusional -- but that's besides the point. Most of the people who ignorantly bash the device don't take into consideration what its potential is. Most tablet computers are just that -- a laptop that sliced off the keyboard and barely thought of a way to improve or change the OS besides the touch input. Have you ever used a tablet that wasn't sluggish and/or poorly implemented? It just feels like a computer without a keyboard or mouse. Where's the innovation?
Whereas Apple has done the same things -- dropped they keyboard and mouse, but where they differ is they have crafted an entirely different OS made for its purpose alone. Sure, it's an extension of the iPhone OS -- nevertheless it performs its functions much more efficiently than a normal tablet PC will. Whether the functionality of the iPad is something you will use is the question. Is it worth 499.99 for you to have a device like this? For a lot of people it is. The people buying this thing (besides apple fags) want something simple, streamlined, elegant, and well built. How many netbooks are as well built as the iPad? Most netbooks use older, lower quality hardware to meet lower costs -- a netbook is more of a compromise than an innovation. The iPad is not the most innovative thing ever released, but it's certainly unique for a tablet/whatever and definitely has carved a niche for itself that I can see being very successful. Let's face it -- Apple moves hardware, they must be doing something right.
They are constantly at the forefront of the computer industry -- they basically created or popularized a lot of the media devices we use every day, like laptops, mp3 players, the iPhone, and now a tablet/portable media device. It's not a full fledged computer, but it's not trying to be -- it's supposed to be the in-between. Personally I think they nailed it.
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Most tablet computers are just that -- a laptop that sliced off the keyboard and barely thought of a way to improve or change the OS besides the touch input. Have you ever used a tablet that wasn't sluggish and/or poorly implemented? It just feels like a computer without a keyboard or mouse. Where's the innovation?
You're right. Making a bigger model of something you already have is as innovative as it gets.
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Why is it such a big deal if it's the same OS on a bigger screen? Are people really that ignorant? What is your opinion on companies charging more money for a laptop with a bigger screen, but the same specs? Developers can use the extra screen landscape to create more sophisticated apps. You can drop the word innovation if you want. How about refining? What is with the confusion? Steve Jobs didn't step out onto the stage and say "this will replace your current laptop." AFAIK they are still manufacturing Macbooks.
This is really just a simple case of people hating someone because it's Apple doing it -- like people getting pissed off when the Yankees win the world series because they've won it more times than anyone else. Try to think of something inside of a vacuum for once, it's not that hard.
A computer is not just hardware. If you want to view things in the simplest terms, fine.
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It becomes a big deal when the company parades it around as being innovative. Tablets have been around for a long time, and any company could have made them that size or shape. Tablets just are not practical though, and this device is no exception.
I actually admire some apple products, and the Mac OS software is great for someone in music and film such as myself. Trust me, if this product was worth defending I'd be on your side.
On the other hand, there are more useful looking devices such as this: (watch first video) (https://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/microsofts-courier-digital-journal-exclusive-pictures-and-de/)
I'll admit that I would have little use for having one. But if I were to get a tablet, I would rather get something like the Courier which actually seems to be innovative.
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Why do you care what the company parades it as? It's their fucking job to overhype a product and make you think you want it more than you actually do and Apple is fucking incredible at doing that. But LIKE I SAID -- look at the device as if it exists in a vacuum. Take it on its own merits. I think it's kind of silly that you let media fluff sour your opinion of something so much.
The MASSIVE built in audience of iPhone and iPod touch users is a pretty big plus for the device, too. Lots of people hold back on buying fancy new gadgets because it looks too complicated, but there have been what, 50-60 million of those devices shipped? They aimed for simplicity and fortunately for them, Apple has almost unparalleled brand trust.
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I think that if more people say "refine" instead of "innovate" there wouldn't be so much dispute. The tablets have existed for a long time, Apple just made it more appealing in an aesthetic way; which is their strong since the launch of the iPod: refine.
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I think the size is something that was seriously underestimated. Sure it's only a few more inches, but what you can do with that space is pretty impressive. Check this out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOeaiBWUX0), that's live video that you can take anywhere you want to, and it's got real time customizable stats. Think about that, especially if you're a sports fan. You can't do that on any kind of phone or iPod. Say you're out at dinner, you probably won't be carrying a laptop around with you, but you get a text there's a close game nearing the end, something epic is about to happen. You whip out the iPad and enjoy it along with everyone else who will undoubtedly gather around.
No it's not perfect, it doesn't have a camera, but guess what? It will. You have to think in potentials and not what it has right this second. This, the tablet not just the iPad, is going to be friking huge.
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As much as I hate bacong and everything he stands for, he's right.
The Ipod might not be innovative in the slightest bit. But they marketed it well, and enough people will buy it. Thus their profits will go up. What else is a company supposed to do? It's not like they haven't made great stuff and will stop making good stuff.
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I think that if more people say "refine" instead of "innovate" there wouldn't be so much dispute. The tablets have existed for a long time, Apple just made it more appealing in an aesthetic way; which is their strong since the launch of the iPod: refine.
innovate |ˈinəˌvāt|
verb [ intrans. ]
make changes in something established, esp. by introducing new methods, ideas, or products : the company's failure to diversify and innovate competitively.
:P
Anyway, yeah, that's what they did -- but like I said tablets were largely the same computer, just with no keyboard and mouse. The iPad is completely different from that.
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Also, thanks adami, I hope you don't actually hate me though :sad:
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No it's not perfect, it doesn't have a camera, but guess what? It will. You have to think in potentials and not what it has right this second. This, the tablet not just the iPad, is going to be freaking huge.
Don't forget that the anger many people have as well is because of the lack of features. "It will..." Sure it will, then why buy it now if it seems like a Beta release?
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I think the size is something that was seriously underestimated. Sure it's only a few more inches, but what you can do with that space is pretty impressive. Check this out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOeaiBWUX0), that's live video that you can take anywhere you want to, and it's got real time customizable stats. Think about that, especially if you're a sports fan. You can't do that on any kind of phone or iPod. Say you're out at dinner, you probably won't be carrying a laptop around with you, but you get a text there's a close game nearing the end, something epic is about to happen. You whip out the iPad and enjoy it along with everyone else who will undoubtedly gather around.
Yes, but the only way for you to that is to also pay the $200 MLB.tv package. So there goes $700.
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I think the size is something that was seriously underestimated. Sure it's only a few more inches, but what you can do with that space is pretty impressive. Check this out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOeaiBWUX0), that's live video that you can take anywhere you want to, and it's got real time customizable stats. Think about that, especially if you're a sports fan. You can't do that on any kind of phone or iPod. Say you're out at dinner, you probably won't be carrying a laptop around with you, but you get a text there's a close game nearing the end, something epic is about to happen. You whip out the iPad and enjoy it along with everyone else who will undoubtedly gather around.
Yes, but the only way for you to that is to also pay the $200 MLB.tv package. So there goes $700.
I thought it was only $120. The at-bat app looks pretty cool and it's only $15.
I generally talk in terms of the concept, because I can't afford any of it. :lol
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You can pay 15.99 and still get a few live games a day, and free audio for every game. That app is insanely awesome.
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I think the size is something that was seriously underestimated. Sure it's only a few more inches, but what you can do with that space is pretty impressive. Check this out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOeaiBWUX0), that's live video that you can take anywhere you want to, and it's got real time customizable stats. Think about that, especially if you're a sports fan. You can't do that on any kind of phone or iPod. Say you're out at dinner, you probably won't be carrying a laptop around with you, but you get a text there's a close game nearing the end, something epic is about to happen. You whip out the iPad and enjoy it along with everyone else who will undoubtedly gather around.
Yes, but the only way for you to that is to also pay the $200 MLB.tv package. So there goes $700.
I thought it was only $120. The at-bat app looks pretty cool and it's only $15.
I generally talk in terms of the concept, because I can't afford any of it. :lol
That app is very cool indeed! I'm seriously thinking about buying it on my Android phone.
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I understand that totally. I wasn't saying anything about marketing it. I was talking about the product in the world we live in.
But LIKE I SAID -- look at the device as if it exists in a vacuum. Take it on its own merits.
And pretend nothing else exists to compare it to? That right there is a weak argument.
And bacong, this is coming from a person who gets along with everyone else on this forum: you're kind of a dick when debating.
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You're the one hurling insults bro. I'm not trying to come off as a dick.
Anyway, the "exist in a vacuum" quip isn't quite that literal -- I just meant you know, throw out all your preconceived notions about the product and just judge it on what it does, not on what it doesn't do, especially when it's not particularly trying to do the things people are saying it doesn't do.
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Protip at DTF: Avoid Ad-hominems.
Make it a protip in life.
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You're the one hurling insults bro.
wat
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But LIKE I SAID -- look at the device as if it exists in a vacuum. Take it on its own merits.
And pretend nothing else exists to compare it to? That right there is a weak argument.
At this moment, there ain't many things putting up a fight. When the better things get here they will surely be compared. The Microsoft thing looks awesome, but until the public can actually get their hands on it, there's no sense in bashing the iPad based on other products conceived potential.
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As for something I don't particularly like about the iPad, the iPod app, when the music is playing and you're viewing the album art, is pretty fucking hideous and a terrible waste of space. Not very typical of Apple.
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You're the one hurling insults bro.
wat
You said I was kind of a dick. Not that I care, but you said it first :P Look bro, sorry, I don't try to be a dick when I argue, but I understand how I can come across that way. I like arguing, don't take it personal :P
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But LIKE I SAID -- look at the device as if it exists in a vacuum. Take it on its own merits.
And pretend nothing else exists to compare it to? That right there is a weak argument.
At this moment, there ain't many things putting up a fight. When the better things get here they will surely be compared. The Microsoft thing looks awesome, but until the public can actually get their hands on it, there's no sense in bashing the iPad based on other products conceived potential.
Trust me, I'm not trying to bash it. I can totally see everything positive about it. All in all it just seems like something that doesn't deserve....itself. Do you know what I mean?
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But LIKE I SAID -- look at the device as if it exists in a vacuum. Take it on its own merits.
And pretend nothing else exists to compare it to? That right there is a weak argument.
At this moment, there ain't many things putting up a fight. When the better things get here they will surely be compared. The Microsoft thing looks awesome, but until the public can actually get their hands on it, there's no sense in bashing the iPad based on other products conceived potential.
Trust me, I'm not trying to bash it. I can totally see everything positive about it. All in all it just seems like something that doesn't deserve....itself. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, but I think where that is coming from is Apple's marketing and I can't really blame them for that.
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This is an April fool's joke but I would totally buy this.
https://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/iCade.shtml?icpg=Carousel_iCade_1
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This is an April fool's joke but I would totally buy this.
https://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/iCade.shtml?icpg=Carousel_iCade_1
Freakin brilliant.
Also, the Ipad seems to be mostly an apple attack on whatever those e-book things are called. Plus, soon enough they'll have some crazy musical aps for it and the entire new DT album will just be called "JR + Ipad".
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Yeah, Bebot/similar synth app will be awesome on a bigger screen.
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I just want the Auto-tune app on a bigger screen!!
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And speaking of JR: Walked into an Apple store today and jammed on the Pianist Pro app for the Ipad. Ipad is very responsive! Wow! Time to ROCK!
https://twitter.com/Jcrudess/status/11571642686
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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And so it begins.
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hahaha
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BeBot for the iPad would be awesome. I'd pull it out at random times when surrounded by large groups of people and start to Wah Wah it up. It would make the iPhone version look like a toy.
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Can you actually make interesting stuff with Bebot? I feel like JR just sucked at it.
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If they come out with enough awesome musical apps, I might get the Ipad for them alone. Certainly cheaper than most other similar musical instruments.
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You know what would be amazing? A huge, deep KORG app for the iPad...fuck.
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"Imagine the possibilities of students having all their school books on one device." - You mean like the Kindle or any other Ebook reader?
And seriously, what is with everyone talking about the iPad like it's a new device? TABLETS HAVE BEEN OUT FOR YEARS.
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I'm browsing this thread on my iPod touch and it would be awesome if the screen were a lot bigger.
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I'm browsing this thread on my iPod touch and it would be awesome if the screen were a lot bigger.
I'm browsing this thread on my laptop and it's awesome that the screen is bigger.
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I'm browsing this thread on my netbook and it cost about a third of the price of the iPad, has a large HDD, allows me to install apps that don't have to be approved by the manufacturer, has flash and all these other fancy things.
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I'm browsing this thread on my I-magination. It's as big as I want it to be and only has posts about how awesome I am.
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Yawn.
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Touché
P.S. I can multitask on it
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So much hatred...
The discussion about Bebot and similar applications has come up recently here. I think that the iPad could actually go places with them, once they are developed and distributed, of course.
Nevertheless, I still stand with what I said about the iPad before. I don't need one, therefore I won't be getting one. Also, it has some technical weaknesses (like the lacking ability to multi-task) that lead me to the opinion that the iPad definitely isn't technically mature enough yet to be more than a big iPod touch.
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Meh. I've never seen the point in tablet PCs anyway. Just seem like a waste of money to me, at least, for personal use anyway. I can see why businesses might want to use them.
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Meh. I've never seen the point in tablet PCs anyway. Just seem like a waste of money to me, at least, for personal use anyway. I can see why businesses might want to use them.
I agree with you, that's the main reason why I won't get an iPad or any tablet PC, for that matter.
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I'm browsing this thread on my iPod touch and it would be awesome if the screen were a lot bigger.
I'm browsing this thread on my laptop and it's awesome that the screen is bigger.
:lol This.
I'm actually amazed that people are still excited by the iPad.
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Hey, Adami. I'll give you $10 if you buy two iPads, you dress up as Moses and come out of the Apple Store holding them above your head.
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^Haha that sounds amazing.
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Hey, Adami. I'll give you $10,000 if you buy two iPads, you dress up as Moses and come out of the Apple Store holding them above your head.
Deal.
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Give your PayPal :neverusethis:
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Give your PayPal :neverusethis:
You may have to wait actually till they come out with the I-tablet. Ipads are pretty puny still.
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"Imagine the possibilities of students having all their school books on one device." - You mean like the Kindle or any other Ebook reader?
And seriously, what is with everyone talking about the iPad like it's a new device? TABLETS HAVE BEEN OUT FOR YEARS.
BUT APPLE IS REVOLUTIONARY
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(https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2010/01/moses_mactablet.jpg)
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Wow.
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(https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2010/01/moses_mactablet.jpg)
Nice.
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I like the fact that he's doing a chord with his right hand. Moses was a lefty! :lol
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https://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/02/why-i-wont-buy-an-ipad-and-think-you-shouldnt-either.html
The way you improve your iPad isn't to figure out how it works and making it better. The way you improve the iPad is to buy iApps. Buying an iPad for your kids isn't a means of jump-starting the realization that the world is yours to take apart and reassemble; it's a way of telling your offspring that even changing the batteries is something you have to leave to the professionals.
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The fact that you can't change the battery of your iPod/iPhone/iPad is something that really annoys me. I mean, spending € 130 to get your battery changed? Come on.
At least it's an efficient marketing/profit-gaining strategy, but it isn't consumer-friendly at all.
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Well, at least on the iPod and the iPhone, you get the same MP3 player/phone back. With this program, they send you a whole new iPad and I imagine that you'll have to setup everything again as if you were getting it new (note how I said "I imagine", I'm not stating this as fact).
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That wouldn't make any sense at all, but I can imagine Apple doing that as well...
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Well, I know for sure that you send you a whole new iPad but I'm not sure whether they transfer your data, settings etc. from the old one to the new one or not.
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As 'innovative' as their products are, I simply can't justify buying into planned obsolescence. Maybe I'm just out of touch with the pace of technology, but if after 2-3 years, my $500 purchase is not still a high functioning, well supported device (like the $280 mp3 player i bought in 2005, that has been collecting dust on a shelf for nearly 2 years), I can't be bothered.
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Well, I know for sure that you send you a whole new iPad but I'm not sure whether they transfer your data, settings etc. from the old one to the new one or not.
I remember an engadget article saying they don't save the data, that it's up to the user to store all the data onto their computer before they send it in.
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Oh joy. Nothing much fun than installing everything from scratch (seriously, it's most frustrating thing in the world).
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Oh joy. Nothing much fun than installing everything from scratch (seriously, it's most frustrating thing in the world).
With the iPad (and iPhone/iTouch), there is automatically a backup in iTunes every time you sync. It restores with, literally, one click on new products. Makes your product exactly the way you sent it way. While it's not thee absolute most convenient thing in the world, it's far from even a little headache.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko&feature=player_embedded
Awesome.
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THAT'S OLD NEWS, MAN.
We watched it in the Skype conversation last night :neverusethis:
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:sadpanda:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko&feature=player_embedded
Awesome.
Well, that's a nice way to waste $400.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko&feature=player_embedded
Awesome.
Well, that's a nice way to waste $400.
I had to watch that on silent because I'm at school, but still couldn't help from literally laughing out loud.
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As 'innovative' as their products are, I simply can't justify buying into planned obsolescence. Maybe I'm just out of touch with the pace of technology, but if after 2-3 years, my $500 purchase is not still a high functioning, well supported device (like the $280 mp3 player i bought in 2005, that has been collecting dust on a shelf for nearly 2 years), I can't be bothered.
I have an iPod from 2005 that I still use all the time.
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The will it blend video is a cheat. He removes the metal back part. Sneaky.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko&feature=player_embedded
Awesome.
Well, that's a nice way to waste $400.
Seeing as how the series has sold way more of those blenders, each of which costs 300$+, I'd say it's a worthy investment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko&feature=player_embedded
Awesome.
Well, that's a nice way to waste $400.
I had to watch that on silent because I'm at school, but still couldn't help from literally laughing out loud.
I love the smile he always does during the blending
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Thousands of complaints are pouring in. Problems with the device connecting to the internet.
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You gotta handle to Apple for purposely selling a faulty piece of equipment knowing hundreds of thousands will buy it anyway only to eventually release a better version down the line and have everyone buy it again.
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Apparently theres space left on the pcb suitable for a camera.
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Apparently theres space left on the pcb suitable for a camera.
According to this, the space that a camera could/would go was used instead for the ambient light sensor.
The ambient light sensor lives in a compartment that a camera would love to call home.
We suspect that this compartment was intended for the ambient light sensor all along, and the rumors of a camera that would fit here were overzealous. The layout does look very similar to the camera's view ports on the MacBook Pro 13" Unibody
The lack of a camera is completely illogical functionally speaking. To me at least, one of the most obvious (and marketable) features would be the ability to skype chat with people. Guess that's planned for the next version that'll come out six months from now.
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Thousands of complaints are pouring in. Problems with the device connecting to the internet.
Not charging via USB...not powering up unless they sync it with iTunes...
(https://www.gadgetreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/iPad-Issues-650x444.jpg)
Edit: Proper article about it:
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8606727.stm
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Literally just read that article about 10 minutes ago Harry, and it's hilarious. It really is the most disappointing thing Apple have created. :lol
Although whenever I see the iPad described as a "tablet computer" (like in that BBC article) I get slightly annoyed. It simply isn't a computer, it can't do anything off it's own back, you can only upload anything into it by connecting it up to an actual computer in some way, and only then through iTunes. It's simply an oversized smartphone.
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The HP Slate looks soooo better to me.
(https://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/110372_slate.jpg)
Full-fledged OS vs. iPhone OS? Full-fledged OS please.
rumborak
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko&feature=player_embedded
Awesome.
Well, that's a nice way to waste $400.
I'm pretty sure they actually get stuff sent to them.
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Rumbo, that HP does actually sound pretty nice. I'm not really interested in a tablet device, but if I was going to get one, that's definitely the kind of thing I'd go for. The only downside is the battery life doesn't sound that great, but otherwise it seems vastly superior.
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I still want an iPad
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https://www.gamespot.com/news/6257099.html?tag=latestheadlines%3Btitle%3B4
The firm took apart a 16GB iPad without 3G capabilities, a model that currently sells for $500, and estimated that the component parts for each unit cost Apple about $251. Throw in the cost of manufacturing, and the group says it costs Apple $260 to make each 16GB iPad. However, that number does not include other costs to Apple, including software, royalties, and licensing fees.
dat profit margin
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https://www.gamespot.com/news/6257099.html?tag=latestheadlines%3Btitle%3B4
The firm took apart a 16GB iPad without 3G capabilities, a model that currently sells for $500, and estimated that the component parts for each unit cost Apple about $251. Throw in the cost of manufacturing, and the group says it costs Apple $260 to make each 16GB iPad. However, that number does not include other costs to Apple, including software, royalties, and licensing fees.
dat profit margin
Thats like a 30-40% margin, based on what their overhead is. Isn't that standard on almost everything?
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https://www.gamespot.com/news/6257099.html?tag=latestheadlines%3Btitle%3B4
The firm took apart a 16GB iPad without 3G capabilities, a model that currently sells for $500, and estimated that the component parts for each unit cost Apple about $251. Throw in the cost of manufacturing, and the group says it costs Apple $260 to make each 16GB iPad. However, that number does not include other costs to Apple, including software, royalties, and licensing fees.
dat profit margin
Thats like a 30-40% margin, based on what their overhead is. Isn't that standard on almost everything?
I'm not sure there even is a 'standard' profit margin when it comes to consumer electronics.
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Well nearly all consoles are sold at a loss which is then gotten back with game sales. The exception to that is the Wii - that's why Nintendo are really rolling in the money, they get profit from the consoles too - at the opposite end, the PS3 was being sold for a baaad loss when it first came out, though its far less now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko
Made me laugh. I have to confess, I am slightly addicted to will it blend?
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HE CHEATS IN THAT VIDEO
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Did anyone see the news for the new iPhone OS4? It has MULTI-FUCKING-TASKING! And an excellent way to handle it to! Read more here: https://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/ (https://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/)
And of course, this OS will come to the iPad as well, which make the iPad at lot more interesting for me.
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Check the chat thread :P
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Did anyone see the news for the new iPhone OS4? It has MULTI-FUCKING-TASKING! And an excellent way to handle it to! Read more here: https://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/ (https://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/)
And of course, this OS will come to the iPad as well, which make the iPad at lot more interesting for me.
Now if it would just support flash and have a USB port, I'd consider getting one.
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Did anyone see the news for the new iPhone OS4? It has MULTI-FUCKING-TASKING! And an excellent way to handle it to! Read more here: https://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/ (https://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/)
And of course, this OS will come to the iPad as well, which make the iPad at lot more interesting for me.
Now if it would just support flash and have a USB port, I'd consider getting one.
That looks even less likely now:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7570736/Apples-iPhone-OS-4.0-software-incompatible-with-Adobe.html
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About time they got multitasking. Computers from the 1960s have multitasking...
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Those 'top' features look reaaally lame :-\
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Multitasking?! What new crazy innovations will Apple role out soon?
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I hope they aren't going to charge for this...though I'm sure they will.
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Guy complaining about the iPad's feature (or it's lack of):
https://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/apr/09/ipad-flaws-review
UK prices unveiled:
https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/general/277588/apple-ipad-available-for-ludicrous-prices-in-the-uk
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UK prices
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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A bit more expensive than I thought they would be.
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Guy complaining about the iPad's feature (or it's lack of):
https://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/apr/09/ipad-flaws-review
it doesn't charge while it's syncing – which could mean you go off leaving it to suck in your huge music library and equally huge photo library only to come back and find that it's died in the middle of the process. Make sure it's charged up before you start syncing.
lolwut
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:rollin
What the fuck is wrong with this company lately?
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:rollin
What the fuck is wrong with this company lately?
The decisions they're making as of late are the right ones. Just watch.
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:rollin
What the fuck is wrong with this company lately?
The decisions they're making as of late are the right ones. Just watch.
Yes, waiting 3 years to put a simple thing as multitasking in a phone is definitely right.
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I really take big issue with this iAd crap. Way to piss off the majority of the iPhone/iPad users who aren't blind, drooling fanboys.
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Yeah I don't really understand, how is iAd remotely good for the consumer?
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I don't think the iAd thing will be as bad as you say. I think it'll be used to make free versions of apps and if you want an app with out ads, you pay for it.
That's just me guessing but it makes sense.
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But that's already the case. ???
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Hmmm, I think a lot of the apps for iPhone use AdMob though (correct me if I'm wrong), which Google owns.
Edit:
Thanks to his company's control of the operating system that underpins the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch, Apple's network would be able to serve up more creative forms of advertising to run inside the "apps" users download onto these devices, he said.
https://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/28c92a5a-4437-11df-b327-00144feab49a.html
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So essentially it makes no difference to consumers, or app developers. Not sure why it's such big news, it's just Apple developing a way to make themselves more money :lol
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And compete with Google.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhqeKtWd4Dc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhqeKtWd4Dc
I don't know if he was serious or sarcastic.
iPad beating Nintendo on portable gaming? :rollin
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Anybody else have the impression that the "i" prefix has been beaten to death by now?
rumborak
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Apple is failing on so many levels with the iPad and the new OS. They really need to get their act together.
Anybody else have the impression that the "i" prefix has been beaten to death by now?
rumborak
Yup, but it's pretty much ingrained in a lot of American society now, so I don't see it going away anytime soon.
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iHate it
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Apple is failing on so many levels with the iPad and the new OS. They really need to get their act together.
The funny thing about this is that tons of people feel the same way as you, but many millions think the iPad and other Apple products are awesome and the best out there. They're never going to make products that everyone loves. That's not their goal. Their goal is to make slick interfaces and user friendly devices. I get so tired of people ripping Apple for not making the product they wanted. Millions of people want Apple products. That's a fact. Their stock is sky high. The iPad sold a ton of devices in the first week. I don't think they need to get their act together. I think you need to see the reality that they make products that work well for millions of people. Just because it's not what you want doesn't make it a bad product.
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Apple is failing on so many levels with the iPad and the new OS. They really need to get their act together.
The funny thing about this is that tons of people feel the same way as you, but many millions think the iPad and other Apple products are awesome and the best out there. They're never going to make products that everyone loves. That's not their goal. Their goal is to make slick interfaces and user friendly devices. I get so tired of people ripping Apple for not making the product they wanted. Millions of people want Apple products. That's a fact. Their stock is sky high. The iPad sold a ton of devices in the first week. I don't think they need to get their act together. I think you need to see the reality that they make products that work well for millions of people. Just because it's not what you want doesn't make it a bad product.
Yes a lot of people want Apple products. But they want them BECAUSE it says Apple or iThis or iThat. Apple capitalizes on their brand name; not their products. They still need to make good products, whether people buy them or not
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Apple is failing on so many levels with the iPad and the new OS. They really need to get their act together.
The funny thing about this is that tons of people feel the same way as you, but many millions think the iPad and other Apple products are awesome and the best out there. They're never going to make products that everyone loves. That's not their goal. Their goal is to make slick interfaces and user friendly devices. I get so tired of people ripping Apple for not making the product they wanted. Millions of people want Apple products. That's a fact. Their stock is sky high. The iPad sold a ton of devices in the first week. I don't think they need to get their act together. I think you need to see the reality that they make products that work well for millions of people. Just because it's not what you want doesn't make it a bad product.
Yeah but how many of those millions of people can actually explain why they needed an iPad? "It feels and looks great" doesn't justify the price tag for a gadget like this in my opinion.
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iPad is what some of you doesn't want out of a computer, and then you say it's bad? I don't want/don't have any need for a Wii, does that make it a bad product? NO! I see that the product itself is well made. I just don't have any interest in it.
And how is their new OS a failing? Apple has invented a way to make use of multi-tasking without actually having all apps use their full capacity when they're in the background. Is that a bad thing? Perhaps it's should have been implented a long time ago, but that STILL doesn't make the OS itself a failing, just late to the party. ;)
I do realize there are fanboys. But you also have the opposite end of the spectrum, people who piss on it simply because it's Apple, just as some people does with Microsoft. Take the product for what it is, not for what you want it to be, not for who makes it.
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Anybody else have the impression that the "i" prefix has been beaten to death by now?
rumborak
It doesn't bother me on Apple's products, but its infuriating on products that are completely unrelated (https://www.amazon.com/I-Chair-Pink/dp/B00064ZDDE).
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iPad is what some of you doesn't want out of a computer, and then you say it's bad? I don't want/don't have any need for a Wii, does that make it a bad product? NO! I see that the product itself is well made. I just don't have any interest in it.
It's missing some key features. A God damn USB port for a start. That's pretty damn standard in any computing device these days.
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iHate it
:lol
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iPad is what some of you doesn't want out of a computer, and then you say it's bad? I don't want/don't have any need for a Wii, does that make it a bad product? NO! I see that the product itself is well made. I just don't have any interest in it.
It's missing some key features. A God damn USB port for a start. That's pretty damn standard in any computing device these days.
What happened to Firewire and how it made the USB look absolutely obsolete?
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Just didn't catch on.
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I haven't owned an iPod for more than four years, I used a USB to upload my songs. Do they solely still use those with their products, or in a Mac they use a different port?
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Wasn't Firewire great for video stuff?
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Firewire was also really great at getting worn out due to its tiny dimensions. At least on my laptop that had Firewire, the connection became unusable at some point.
rumborak
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Apple clamps down on code tools:
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8616274.stm
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Yes a lot of people want Apple products. But they want them BECAUSE it says Apple or iThis or iThat. Apple capitalizes on their brand name; not their products. They still need to make good products, whether people buy them or not
Absolutely this.
iPad is what some of you doesn't want out of a computer, and then you say it's bad? I don't want/don't have any need for a Wii, does that make it a bad product? NO! I see that the product itself is well made. I just don't have any interest in it.
Yes, but that doesn't apply here, because the iPad is quite simply not well made. Plus, it has been marketed as a "tablet computer", when it is not a computer of any kind. An average and disgustingly overpriced product along with misleading marketing.
And hey, I'm hardly an Apple-hater. I joke around a lot, but the majority of their products are bloody brilliant. The iPhone is a very clever device, and I recently got myself an iPod Touch and I'm loving it. The iPad is simply a joke.
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I still haven't seen a negative review from somebody who actually has an iPad. I'm not saying it's perfect, but all the bashing is coming from people who have never actually tried it.
It's like people are pissed that Apple has supportive fans, so they go after them and their products.
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I haven't owned an iPod for more than four years, I used a USB to upload my songs. Do they solely still use those with their products, or in a Mac they use a different port?
No, ipods still use USB ports.
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I still haven't seen a negative review from somebody who actually has an iPad. I'm not saying it's perfect, but all the bashing is coming from people who have never actually tried it.
It's like people are pissed that Apple has supportive fans, so they go after them and their products.
You're so insightful. There's a reason people don't like Apple. If they don't like their products, they won't like the company.
I don't like HP/Compaq because I think their products are shit but I don't see you coming to their rescue every time I slag them off.
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It's like people are pissed that Apple has supportive fans, so they go after them and their products.
lol
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I still haven't seen a negative review from somebody who actually has an iPad. I'm not saying it's perfect, but all the bashing is coming from people who have never actually tried it.
It's like people are pissed that Apple has supportive fans, so they go after them and their products.
You're so insightful. There's a reason people don't like Apple. If they don't like their products, they won't like the company.
I don't like HP/Compaq because I think their products are shit but I don't see you coming to their rescue every time I slag them off.
But the difference is that you've probably used HP/Compaq's products. This is like people writing one-star reviews on amazon for a book they've never read.
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Hey guys, I think that HP have shitty customer service and make piss poor products.
I think I'm saying this because I'm just annoyed that HP has fans and I'm just going after them and their products.
But the difference is that you've probably used HP/Compaq's products. This is like people writing one-star reviews on amazon for a book they've never read.
I think I'm quite in my right to complain about missing features from a product. I HAVEN'T USED AN IPAD, THEREFORE I CAN'T COMPLAIN THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A USB PORT, WEB CAM OR ANYTHING ELSE!
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I still haven't seen a negative review from somebody who actually has an iPad.
I don't have to buy one to realize how useless it is. The people who bought it were gonna love it anyways.
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I give up, the point that I'm trying to make is that if there are two reviews of any product ever. One review is by somebody who has used that product and another is by somebody who has seen a picture of it... one if obviously more reliable than the other.
Apple has fanboys, yeah I get it. But they don't work as a tech analyst for every major media outlet and they aren't the reason Apple can't keep up with orders.
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I give up, the point that I'm trying to make is that if there are two reviews of any product ever. One review is by somebody who has used that product and another is by somebody who has seen a picture of it... one if obviously more reliable than the other.
"seen a picture of a it". Yes because we're all complaining about how it looks and not the fact that it's missing some key features which are easy to find out about on the internet. CLEVER YOU.
Apple has fanboys, yeah I get it. But they don't work as a tech analyst for every major media outlet and they aren't the reason Apple can't keep up with orders.
So? What has that got to do with anything? Just because a large amount of people like a product doesn't mean we can't be critical of it.
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One other question: What's the big deal with the USB port? I mean I can see how it would be nice, but it's not like you can't transfer stuff from your computer. Like what are you connecting? Cameras I can see the argument for, but that's really the only thing.
Practically everything is in the cloud now anyway... do you really think we'll have wires in five or ten years?
I see the iPad as something that can be used in conjunction with a desktop. Maybe that's the disconnect? People think they're trying to replace laptops? I don't think they are.
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External storage, cameras that don't use FireWire (I paid Ł279 for my camera and it doesn't have a FireWire port), phones, MP3 players, keyboards, mice, TonePort etc. etc. etc.
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One other question: What's the big deal with the USB port? I mean I can see how it would be nice, but it's not like you can't transfer stuff from your computer. Like what are you connecting? Cameras I can see the argument for, but that's really the only thing.
Practically everything is in the cloud now anyway... do you really think we'll have wires in five or ten years?
Because some of us refuse to use cloud computing and prefer to actually have control over our property, because not being able to load a .doc file from a friend/coworker's flash drive in inexcusable in any device that even approaches being a computer, and because having to rely on the ipads already demonstrably shitty wifi connection to be able to transfer and access files is equally inexcusable. Along with that, just having the ability to interface with any device, not just the ones Apple deems 'compatible'.
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No they are not trying to replace laptops, but they are trying to edge into the market for portable computers by marketing the iPad as a "tablet computer" and as "something between a laptop and a smartphone" and all these other things. Which are all, quite frankly, lies. It is simply a giant smartphone. It may be an excellent giant smartphone (as I said already, the iPhone itself is fantastic), but a lot of blind fanatics will be buying it in addition to the iPhone/iPod they already have thinking it's something new when all that has really changed is the size.
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They're trying to replace netbooks and yes, Steve Jobs has said that himself.
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They're trying to replace netbooks and yes, Steve Jobs has said that himself.
Which is exactly why it's such a joke. It was marketed as a portable computer, and it fails incredibly hard at it.
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I don't have to buy one to realize how useless it is.
They're trying to replace netbooks and yes, Steve Jobs has said that himself.
Which is exactly why it's such a joke. It was marketed as a portable computer, and it fails incredibly hard at it.
It's useless to you, but not to a huge number of people. I would find it expremely useful and may buy one someday once the price comes down and some features are added. It's like me saying a bra is a stupid, useless invention because I have no use for it. A few of you here are needlessly bashing a product you've never used and have no intention of using. It just seems a little childish. The whole point of Apple products in general is that they go beyond the specs. It's about the experience rather than the hardware. If that's not what you're looking for then just move on and leave it be. Every review I've read by a person who used it says that it's pretty awesome and does way more than they thought it could.
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It's about the experience rather than the hardware.
wtf does that even mean? "Sure, it can only do one thing at a time, has only a frayed thread of connection to the outside world due to its shitty wifi, and can't take pictures, but man, I love resizing pictures other people took all day!"
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It's like me saying a bra is a stupid, useless invention because I have no use for it.
It's nothing like that. Bra companies don't tend to market their products as something they're not and make out like bras are a brand new invention.
I'm not going to get much of an "experience" out of it if I can't use it for what it was supposed to do (replace netbooks). It's so locked down (and will be even further locked down when their fourth version of the OS comes out) that it has practically no use as a replacement for a netbook.
In fact, I had way more fun playing Plants Vs. Zombies on my netbook the other day than I could possibly ever have the iPad.
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It's about the experience rather than the hardware.
wtf does that even mean? "Sure, it can only do one thing at a time, has only a frayed thread of connection to the outside world due to its shitty wifi, and can't take pictures, but man, I love resizing pictures other people took all day!"
It means that Apple makes a kick-ass user interface that transends the physical specifications of the computer. It does more than you'd think it would be able to do based on what it's capable of on paper and it does it in a very user friendly way, which the average person loves.
I'm done with this thread. Seriously just let it go. People enjoy a product that doesn't do what you think it should do and you feel the need to sit around and tell them why they shouldn't like it? Newsflash for you... all companies exaggerate the greatness of their products, not just Apple.
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No ???
We're saying we don't like it. If anything, it seems you're upset that we don't like it.
Oh wow, it has a good interface. If it doesn't have the hardware to back it up, who gives a shit how good the interface is?
I got a shit camera the other day...but at least the user interface is good!
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In fact, I had way more fun playing Plants Vs. Zombies on my netbook the other day than I could possibly ever have the iPad.
I have Plants vs Zombies on my iPod and it's amazing fun! But I can't imagine it being even slightly improved by playing it on a bigger screen.
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I've played it on my 24" screen and you're right :lol
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Actually, regarding the whole user interface thing, I can't see a large screen actually being terribly helpful. I've been doing a lot of digital art lately, and I've tried browsing with the tablet, but even the tiny (4"x6") space of my tablet requires you to move your hand a considerable amount more than a mouse, and the ipad screen is considerably larger than that. It's just not comfortable to use. I'm not sure what having touch capabilities on a really large screen like that really adds for most normal applications, other than having to move your arm around a lot more.
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I see a lot of people complain about size and weight so:
1- Get one of these
(https://www.cup-service.net/wp-content/produkte/bauchladen-vendor-king.jpg)
2- Remove bottles
3- Place iPad
4- Replace "VENDOR-KING" with "iTray".
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I'd rather just take the girl :neverusethis:
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External storage, cameras that don't use FireWire (I paid Ł279 for my camera and it doesn't have a FireWire port), phones, MP3 players, keyboards, mice, TonePort etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, I'm pissed that you can't use your own mouse on the iPad too....
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External storage, cameras that don't use FireWire (I paid Ł279 for my camera and it doesn't have a FireWire port), phones, MP3 players, keyboards, mice, TonePort etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, I'm pissed that you can't use your own mouse on the iPad too....
Seriously. Why would you want to connect any of those to your iPad? (Except the keyboard, which you can connect by bluetooth.)
In fact, I had way more fun playing Plants Vs. Zombies on my netbook the other day than I could possibly ever have the iPad.
What?
I have Plants vs Zombies on my iPod and it's amazing fun! But I can't imagine it being even slightly improved by playing it on a bigger screen.
What? Oh wait I get it! Because bigger, better, clearer graphics, easier controls and a faster processor making the game load and respond faster, and a better battery allowing you to play for longer couldn't possibly make the game any better.
These anti-iPad arguments are just getting more and more inane by the second.
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External storage, cameras that don't use FireWire (I paid Ł279 for my camera and it doesn't have a FireWire port), phones, MP3 players, keyboards, mice, TonePort etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, I'm pissed that you can't use your own mouse on the iPad too....
Seriously. Why would you want to connect any of those to your iPad? (Except the keyboard, which you can connect by bluetooth.)
My point exactly.
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You guys seriously can't see any possible reason why you'd need to use a flash drive, or hook up a camera/phone, or be able to connect a keyboard to it?
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It's not a computer, why would I hook up a camera or phone to it? Flash drive would be handy, but its exclusion isn't a deal breaker. Anyway iPods have never operated like mass storage devices, so I don't see why you'd expect it to.
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It's not a computer
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Was there a point to that or did you hit quote and post by accident?
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There was a point.
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It's not a computer
Then what exactly is it supposed to be?
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And that was?
It's not a computer
Then what exactly is it supposed to be?
It's a fucking iPad. It's a new device that sits somewhere between iPhone and computer. It's whatever you want it to be within it's various capabilities. For me it'd be a web browser, gaming device and (comic) book reader. (But only once it drops in price.)
I can see how someone personally wouldn't want it, but I don't get how that makes it a bad product or something to be rallied against.
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You guys seriously can't see any possible reason why you'd need to use a flash drive, or hook up a camera/phone, or be able to connect a keyboard to it?
None.
You realize that you can connect it with a computer right? I don't give a shite what Jobs says it's supposed to be or what it's supposed to replace, if I buy one I'll use it how I please; and that would be in conjunction with a desktop that's got a giant screen.
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External storage, cameras that don't use FireWire (I paid Ł279 for my camera and it doesn't have a FireWire port), phones, MP3 players, keyboards, mice, TonePort etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, I'm pissed that you can't use your own mouse on the iPad too....
Seriously. Why would you want to connect any of those to your iPad? (Except the keyboard, which you can connect by bluetooth.)
My point exactly.
wtf
Maybe you want to put music on your MP3 player, charge your MP3 player, charge your phone, put files on your phone, swap data to and from a USB flash drive. If you get a lower end iPad and want more storage, you could plug a USB harddrive in. Since the current version of the iPad doesn't have 3G, you might want to connect a wireless broadband dongle. If you're on holiday and wanted to see your photos on a bigger screen, you could connect your camera to your iPad. Pretty fucking obvious.
Seriously, the point is it's portable. You shouldn't have to connect it to your computer every 5 fucking seconds just to put something on it.
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If it does all that shit (especially charging other devices, WTF) you're going to have to plug it in every 5 minutes to charge it anyway.
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Uhhhh no. I use my netbook to charge my MP3 player all the time and it doesn't just magically run out of battery (which is handy when I'm traveling). Unless it has a really shit battery life, I'm sure it would cope.
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It's a fucking iPad. It's a new device that sits somewhere between iPhone and computer.
No, it is just an iPhone, there is no "in between" about it. The fact that it is marketed that way, and the fact that fanboys believe it, is what annoys us a little.
What? Oh wait I get it! Because bigger, better, clearer graphics, easier controls and a faster processor making the game load and respond faster, and a better battery allowing you to play for longer couldn't possibly make the game any better.
Well, for a start you ignored most of the main points we were making and primarily responded to a bit of banter we were having about Plants vs Zombies. :lol
But no, the game does not need a bigger screen, better graphics, or a faster processor. The reason iPod/iPhone games are fun and addictive is because they are simple, in the same way that Tetris is still one of the most addictive games ever. If someone wants games that are more clever and intricate, they buy a portable gaming device.
And what's this about easier controls? Games are easy to play on an iPod/iPhone because the screen is nice and small. It'd be horrid and cumbersome trying to play them on a considerably bigger screen. How would you even hold the device while playing them? On your lap?
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I love how his reasons for Plants Vs. Zombies being better on the iPad could be easily transferred to a netbook.
Also, as if Plants Vs Zombies needs a better processor :lol
It's a basic tower defence game with some average graphics. It doesn't exactly need top hardware.
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Do you know what does have a USB port? This microwave:
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/04/14apr10nio35menu.jpg)
https://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/combi-chef-6-microwave-has-a-usb-port-nothing-else-matters/
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Okay, this is pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gew68Qj5kxw
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That is pretty cool but the guy's editing gave me a headache :/
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If more books can be read like that, I will definitely buy an iPad v.4!
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To be honest, although it looks cool, it might get a bit annoying when things go infront of the words (like the swinging pocket watch) when you're trying to read the book.
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This is just for Alice, right? Every book will have its own design and a "stay the fucking hell still" option.
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I'm pretty sure that's just a kid's thing for Alice. Also, what's with all the rage? I don't get it.
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Also, what's with all the rage? I don't get it.
(https://9gag.com/photo/17942_full.jpg)
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External storage, cameras that don't use FireWire (I paid Ł279 for my camera and it doesn't have a FireWire port), phones, MP3 players, keyboards, mice, TonePort etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, I'm pissed that you can't use your own mouse on the iPad too....
Seriously. Why would you want to connect any of those to your iPad? (Except the keyboard, which you can connect by bluetooth.)
My point exactly.
wtf
Maybe you want to put music on your MP3 player, charge your MP3 player, charge your phone, put files on your phone, swap data to and from a USB flash drive. If you get a lower end iPad and want more storage, you could plug a USB harddrive in. Since the current version of the iPad doesn't have 3G, you might want to connect a wireless broadband dongle. If you're on holiday and wanted to see your photos on a bigger screen, you could connect your camera to your iPad. Pretty fucking obvious.
Seriously, the point is it's portable. You shouldn't have to connect it to your computer every 5 fucking seconds just to put something on it.
Maybe you do want to put music on your MP3 player, that's what a computer is for, I'd be surprised if your netbook is the main source of power you use to charge your phone, put files on your phone - again computer, I have not used a flash drive for months, so if you don't want to use cloud computing (which is where everything will be in a few years) then again use your computer. You say "current version" as if the one with wi fi isn't coming out in less than a month.
Oh and yes the point is that it's portable, just like an iPod, which I have never connected to my computer every five fucking seconds.
It's not supposed to replace a computer and can be better utilized if used in conjunction with one, I don't care what Jobs says.
PS https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63D20V20100414
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Yeah, it's supposed to be portable so what happens when I need to charge my MP3 player, put files on it etc. when I'm traveling? I guess I'll just lug my workstation, two monitors, 5.1 speakers, keyboard, mouse etc. with me since "USE YOUR COMPUTER" seems to be your only answer.
Cloud computing is pretty useless in areas that don't have 3G and yes, a lot of places outside of cities don't have 3G. You would be waiting forever just to access a small text file.
It's not very portable if it has to be connected to a computer to do anything.
I mean, seriously, what's the point of having a device that's portable if you're just going to use it in the house and no where else?
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Yeah, it's supposed to be portable so what happens when I need to charge my MP3 player, put files on it etc. when I'm traveling? I guess I'll just lug my workstation, two monitors, 5.1 speakers, keyboard, mouse etc. with me since "USE YOUR COMPUTER" seems to be your only answer.
Cloud computing is pretty useless in areas that don't have 3G and yes, a lot of places outside of cities don't have 3G. You would be waiting forever just to access a small text file.
It's not very portable if it has to be connected to a computer to do anything.
I mean, seriously, what's the point of having a device that's portable if you're just going to use it in the house and no where else?
How do you recharge your MP3 player when you're traveling? You plug it into the wall.
If cloud computing is useless, then how are you accessing these files on a netbook?
How many times can I say it: THE iPAD IS NOT SUPPOSED TO REPLACE COMPUTERS.
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External storage, cameras that don't use FireWire (I paid Ł279 for my camera and it doesn't have a FireWire port), phones, MP3 players, keyboards, mice, TonePort etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, I'm pissed that you can't use your own mouse on the iPad too....
Seriously. Why would you want to connect any of those to your iPad? (Except the keyboard, which you can connect by bluetooth.)
In fact, I had way more fun playing Plants Vs. Zombies on my netbook the other day than I could possibly ever have the iPad.
What?
I have Plants vs Zombies on my iPod and it's amazing fun! But I can't imagine it being even slightly improved by playing it on a bigger screen.
What? Oh wait I get it! Because bigger, better, clearer graphics, easier controls and a faster processor making the game load and respond faster, and a better battery allowing you to play for longer couldn't possibly make the game any better.
These anti-iPad arguments are just getting more and more inane by the second.
Not really an iPad fan, but Plants vs Zombies does work better on the iPad because of being able to multi-task.
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How do you recharge your MP3 player when you're traveling? You plug it into the wall.
If cloud computing is useless, then how are you accessing these files on a netbook?
How many times can I say it: THE iPAD IS NOT SUPPOSED TO REPLACE COMPUTERS.
Most MP3 players don't come with an AC adapter so no.
I didn't say it was totally useless but that nearly relying on it completely is silly.
NO ONE IS SAYING THAT. JESUS CHRIST. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO MORE THAN A SMARTPHONE. Which, currently, they do not.
Not really an iPad fan, but Plants vs Zombies does work better on the iPad because of being able to multi-task.
They iPhone will also be able to multi-task about the same time as the iPad will be able to (at least, I imagine they will release the OS update for both devices at a similar time).
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Err, I meant in game with multi-touch. Gathering sun and planting plants faster.
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Oh. The iPhone has multi-touch as well, as far as I'm aware.
Not too sure about the iPod Touch though.
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Yeah iPod Touch has multi-touch. Harry has hit the nail on the head, our entire point blankngold is that this is not a new device, it is simply a giant smartphone / portable media player. And as such, to me it is ridiculously oversized and impractical. I already have a smartphone, and between the iPod Touch and iPad, which both do exactly the same thing, I'm clearly going to pick the one that is easier to use and that I can actually fit in my pocket.
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Yeah iPod Touch has multi-touch. Harry has hit the nail on the head, our entire point blankngold is that this is not a new device, it is simply a giant smartphone / portable media player. And as such, to me it is ridiculously oversized and impractical. I already have a smartphone, and between the iPod Touch and iPad, which both do exactly the same thing, I'm clearly going to pick the one that is easier to use and that I can actually fit in my pocket.
Isn't this what the iPad is marketed at? Those with pockets so huge that an ordinary smartphone just gets lost?
I'll get one. I am a clown and often find that my phone gets beaten up by my pocket dictionary and thesaurus.
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How many times can I say it: THE iPAD IS NOT SUPPOSED TO REPLACE COMPUTERS.
No, but the current products and features that exist have raised the bar for what it's expected to be capable of.
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I see that it isn't meant to replace computers. I also see that it isn't meant to replace the iPhone or iPod touch. What I don't see is why you would get it when you could get a netbook if you want a small, light, very portable computer, or one of the other iProducts if you want something small and portable to play touchscreen games.
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How do you recharge your MP3 player when you're traveling? You plug it into the wall.
If cloud computing is useless, then how are you accessing these files on a netbook?
How many times can I say it: THE iPAD IS NOT SUPPOSED TO REPLACE COMPUTERS.
Most MP3 players don't come with an AC adapter so no.
This. Not even iPods come with the AC adapter.
And when you're traveling you could buy the adapter oooor don't waste any money and charge it with a netbook.
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Any guesses on when either Jobs or other people will say Apple keeps revolutionizing the industry even though tablets have been out for years?
In fairness, popularising it IS a revolution. Who's heard of a two-person revolution? If their invention is the one that's taking off and turning the tablet into a familiar consumer product as opposed to a bit of more specialist kit, they've revolutionised the market.
I'm not planning on getting an iPad, think it's a bit pointless unless you shit money, but it's not an unfair claim. They've made it interesting. Made it cool, taken it out of its niche, and marketed it successfully in a way that appeals to people. I mean, even myself - a moderately tech-savvy, modern fella - I have no plans to buy it, but now I recognise it as a viable piece of kit which real, human people use and buy and live their lives with. And it's only been out a few days. Will be even moreso when I start seeing mates with 'em. I'd never even thought about a tablet before the hype. If I'd seen one it was under a perception filter, 'cause the notion of a tablet never entered my head. Now I take it as given. That's pretty good.
It's as much a feat of PR as a feat of innovation (and it is both, to various extents), but it's a bit of a revolution. A mini one. A revolutionlet.
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How many times can I say it: THE iPAD IS NOT SUPPOSED TO REPLACE COMPUTERS.
No, but the current products and features that exist have raised the bar for what it's expected to be capable of.
What products are these?
Harry has hit the nail on the head, our entire point blankngold is that this is not a new device, it is simply a giant smartphone / portable media player. And as such, to me it is ridiculously oversized and impractical. I already have a smartphone, and between the iPod Touch and iPad, which both do exactly the same thing, I'm clearly going to pick the one that is easier to use and that I can actually fit in my pocket.
And I'm going to pick the one I can actually see shit on. But you're right, having a choice fucking blows.
Communist.
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How do you recharge your MP3 player when you're traveling? You plug it into the wall.
If cloud computing is useless, then how are you accessing these files on a netbook?
How many times can I say it: THE iPAD IS NOT SUPPOSED TO REPLACE COMPUTERS.
Most MP3 players don't come with an AC adapter so no.
This. Not even iPods come with the AC adapter.
And when you're traveling you could buy the adapter oooor don't waste any money and charge it with a netbook.
My iPod came with an AC adapter, I know you can buy them.
Regardless, I'm sure most people don't use their netbook just to recharge other products.
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It's not a computer
No, but it sure as hell is priced like one.
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How do you recharge your MP3 player when you're traveling? You plug it into the wall.
If cloud computing is useless, then how are you accessing these files on a netbook?
How many times can I say it: THE iPAD IS NOT SUPPOSED TO REPLACE COMPUTERS.
Most MP3 players don't come with an AC adapter so no.
This. Not even iPods come with the AC adapter.
And when you're traveling you could buy the adapter oooor don't waste any money and charge it with a netbook.
My iPod came with an AC adapter, I know you can buy them.
You obviously bought your iPod more than 5 years ago. Ever since they made the iPod that can play video, now called the iPod Classic, they don't come with the adapter.
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Regardless, I'm sure most people don't use their netbook just to recharge other products.
No you're right but what's that got to do with anything? I'm talking about how useful it is to recharge products while on the move, not purposefully buying a product to charge electronics and do nothing else.
It's not a computer
No, but it sure as hell is priced like one.
Particularly in the UK :|
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Regardless, I'm sure most people don't use their netbook just to recharge other products.
No you're right but what's that got to do with anything? I'm talking about how useful it is to recharge products while on the move, not purposefully buying a product to charge electronics and do nothing else.
I just don't see that as a game breaker, as that isn't its purpose.
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No, there are plenty of other reasons for me not to get one. Plenty of which have been mentioned in this thread. You're just choose to ignore them.
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No, there are plenty of other reasons for me not to get one. Plenty of which have been mentioned in this thread. You're just choose to ignore them.
I don't ignore them, I just don't agree that they are big enough that it's still not an amazing device.
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You're just choose to ignore them.
You no use good grammar.
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No, there are plenty of other reasons for me not to get one. Plenty of which have been mentioned in this thread. You're just choose to ignore them.
I don't ignore them, I just don't agree that they are big enough that it's still not an amazing device.
You certainly didn't respond to them while you've been constantly responding to the USB thing.
Also, Super Dude bans American iPads:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/194320/israel_bans_ipads_from_america.html
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dammit super dude!
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(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/keynote.png)
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HEYYO!
*rimshot*
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(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ipad.png)
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iPad printing problem solved:
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/04/blogipadprintingbig.jpg)
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Fuckin' iPad, how does it work?
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Every device printing problem solved: https://mashable.com/2010/04/16/google-cloud-print/
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ugghhh cloud computing
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Fuckin' iPad, how does it work?
Imiracle.
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ugghhh cloud computing
Google is starting to put a lot into it, so good luck with trying to take them down!
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Did I ever say I wanted to take Google down?
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I'm with Sigz. I don't really care that it's around but I don't feel comfortable having a lot of my personal files solely on servers across the country.
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Exactly. It has it's uses, but this whole 'in the future every computer will just be a terminal that links into THE CLOUD where we'll keep all of your stuff safe, trust us' thing is really neither exciting nor welcome. Is it really that hard just to carry a flash drive around?
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Did I ever say I wanted to take Google down?
No, but with them behind the concept it'll be tough to avoid it.
I think that things are headed that way, more hardware emphasis on speed, less on memory -- for all things, especially portable devices. I can understand the personal documents thing, but for stuff like school work (which is the majority of things that I'm saving) I don't really care if Microsoft or Google can see it, though they say that they would never look at it.
As for the flash drive thing, I haven't used one for months and it actually does speed up the process of saving things quite a bit. And it's one less thing to worry about. You spend $45 on a good one and it could break or get lost.
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It's not just a privacy issue (though that is a major part of it). Now your ability to do your work is reliant both on Google or (god forbid) Microsoft maintaining their servers well and you having access to a good internet connection. Internet speeds still aren't at the point to where you can stream large bandwidth reliably, so trying to exchange anything more a few pictures or a .doc file takes time.
For example, last quarter I was in the circuits lab a lot, and had a shitload of screenshot from the digital oscilloscope. Each one was a 3mB tiff file, and there were dozens of these. I could try to upload and then later download 200 mB of TIFF files, or I could throw them on my flash drive and be out the door 30 seconds later.
As for the flash drive: https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Cruzer-Micro-Flash-SDCZ6-8192-A11/dp/B000UZN2ZK 13$, and it's spent the last three years on my keychain and it still works perfectly.
I just don't see what having a cloud setup would do for me. I have 8 gB of storage with me at all times and transfer rates that are at least 20 times faster than even the best internet connections.
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I guess I never use stuff that big. It's always very quick with word, excel, powerpoint files and pictures.
Don't really buy the whole thing about servers crashing, sure it's happened, but there is always the chance that your flash drive dies too (which I've had happen and it isn't fun). Best thing to do is have the important stuff in multiple places. Who knows when your house could catch on fire.
If you're collaborating with other people, especially with any distance between you, cloud is far better than flash drive. Heck, I've used Google docs (which updates in real time) with people in the same room and it speeds up the process.
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If you're collaborating with other people, especially with any distance between you, cloud is far better than flash drive. Heck, I've used Google docs (which updates in real time) with people in the same room and it speeds up the process.
Oh it totally is. I'm not saying it doesn't have it's uses, but having this cloud-only setup which google seems to want to move to just seems stupid to me.
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I completely agree, the whole notion is insane. Fortunately a lot of people feel the same way so it'll never happen.
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Heck, I've used Google docs (which updates in real time) with people in the same room and it speeds up the process.
Was it that difficult just to walk over to their desk?
To be honest, there's only going to be a very small niche for this, since most devices can print wirelessly anyway.
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Heck, I've used Google docs (which updates in real time) with people in the same room and it speeds up the process.
Was it that difficult just to walk over to their desk?
To be honest, there's only going to be a very small niche for this, since most devices can print wirelessly anyway.
When you are writing an single article with multiple authors, everyone is doing research in different places it is a lot easier to say, "Paste that link [or those 17 paragraphs that you wrote] in the Google doc" than saying, "Read off that ginormous URL!"
The printer thing is that all the printers will be connected to the internet, so you can print on any printer anywhere from any device at anytime. You could have public printers or something like that... if we still print things out in the future.
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if we still print things out in the future.
We will.
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It's not just a privacy issue (though that is a major part of it). Now your ability to do your work is reliant both on Google or (god forbid) Microsoft maintaining their servers well and you having access to a good internet connection. Internet speeds still aren't at the point to where you can stream large bandwidth reliably, so trying to exchange anything more a few pictures or a .doc file takes time.
For example, last quarter I was in the circuits lab a lot, and had a shitload of screenshot from the digital oscilloscope. Each one was a 3mB tiff file, and there were dozens of these. I could try to upload and then later download 200 mB of TIFF files, or I could throw them on my flash drive and be out the door 30 seconds later.
As for the flash drive: https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Cruzer-Micro-Flash-SDCZ6-8192-A11/dp/B000UZN2ZK 13$, and it's spent the last three years on my keychain and it still works perfectly.
I just don't see what having a cloud setup would do for me. I have 8 gB of storage with me at all times and transfer rates that are at least 20 times faster than even the best internet connections.
If you're capitalizing the Bs, you might as well capitalize the ms and gs too. m = milli, M = mega and giga = G.
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Yeah, I'm not sure why I did that.
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Check the next page.
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Looks nifty.
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Can you access the battery easily and quickly, like every other phone on the market? No? Then I refuse to even consider it.
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Second microphone for noise canceling? Wonder why they included that *cough*cough*NexusOne*cough*cough*
I actually preferred the rounded look on the back of the previous iPhone as well.
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Yeah i'll stick with a HTC Desire or Incredible thanks. :P
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No need for a new iPhone, mine works just fine.
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I actually find it REALLY cool. If you are planning to get a new phone because the previous one you own is falling to pieces, this iPhone looks great. Also, I like the idea that versio is flatter so it will be comfortable on your pants. It looks more modern due to its straight lines; I never was a fan of the round edges - it makes it look kinda old.
Yeah, like it or not, Apple does know how to make their new versions ages more modern than the previous one.
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Yeah i'll stick with a HTC Desire or Incredible thanks. :P
Dude...wait for the Nexus One or the Samsung Galaxy S.
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Allegedly, Gizmodo says that this is the new iPhone:
https://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone
Video at the link above.
"You are looking at Apple's next iPhone. It was found lost in a bar in Redwood City, camouflaged to look like an iPhone 3GS. We got it. We disassembled it. It's the real thing, and here are all the details."
(https://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_iphone1.jpg)
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(https://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_iphone16.jpg)
More pictures in the link above.
While Apple may tinker with the final packaging and design of the final phone, it's clear that the features in this lost-and-found next-generation iPhone are drastically new and drastically different from what came before. Here's the detailed list of our findings:
What's new
• Front-facing video chat camera
• Improved regular back-camera (the lens is quite noticeably larger than the iPhone 3GS)
• Camera flash
• Micro-SIM instead of standard SIM (like the iPad)
• Improved display. It's unclear if it's the 960x640 display thrown around before—it certainly looks like it, with the "Connect to iTunes" screen displaying much higher resolution than on a 3GS.
• What looks to be a secondary mic for noise cancellation, at the top, next to the headphone jack
• Split buttons for volume
• Power, mute, and volume buttons are all metallic
What's changed
• The back is entirely flat, made of either glass (more likely) or ceramic or shiny plastic in order for the cell signal to poke through. Tapping on the back makes a more hollow and higher pitched sound compared to tapping on the glass on the front/screen, but that could just be the orientation of components inside making for a different sound
• An aluminum border going completely around the outside
• Slightly smaller screen than the 3GS (but seemingly higher resolution)
• Everything is more squared off
• 3 grams heavier
• 16% Larger battery
• Internals components are shrunken, miniaturized and reduced to make room for the larger battery
Why we think it's definitely real
We're as skeptical—if not more—than all of you. We get false tips all the time. But after playing with it for about a week—the overall quality feels exactly like a finished final Apple phone—and disassembling this unit, there is so much evidence stacked in its favor, that there's very little possibility that it's a fake. In fact, the possibility is almost none. Imagine someone having to use Apple components to design a functioning phone, from scratch, and then disseminating it to people around the world. Pretty much impossible. Here are the reasons, one by one.
It has been reported lost
Apple-connected John Gruber—from Daring Fireball—says that Apple has indeed lost a prototype iPhone and they want it back:
So I called around, and I now believe this is an actual unit from Apple — a unit Apple is very interested in getting back.
Obviously someone found it, and here it is.
The screen
While we couldn't get it past the connect to iTunes screen for the reasons listed earlier, the USB cable on that screen was so high quality that it was impossible to discern individual pixels. We can't tell you the exact resolution of this next-generation iPhone, but it's much higher than the current iPhone 3GS.
The operating system
According to the person who found it, this iPhone was running iPhone OS 4.0 before the iPhone 4.0 announcement. The person was able to play with it and see the iPhone 4.0 features. Then, Apple remotely killed the phone before we got access to it. We were unable to restore because each firmware is device specific—3GS firmware only loads on 3GS devices—and the there are no firmwares available for this unreleased phone. Which is another clue to its authenticity.
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It is recognized as an iPhone
This iPhone behaves exactly like an iPhone does when connected to a computer, with the proper boot sequence and "connect to iTunes" restore functionality. Xcode and iTunes both see this as an iPhone. Mac OS X's System Profiler also reports this as an iPhone in restore mode, which is a natural consequence of remotely wiping the phone, but report different product identifiers (both CPID and CPRV) than either the 3G or the 3GS.
It uses micro-sim
The fact that it uses a micro-sim is a clear indicator that this is a next-generation iPhone. No other cellphone uses this standard at this point in the US.
(https://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_case1.jpg)
The camouflage case
The case it came inside was a fully developed plastic case to house this phone to disguise it like a 3GS. This wasn't just a normal case; it had all the proper new holes cut out for the new switches and ports and camera holes and camera flash. But it looks like something from Belkin or Case-Mate. It's a perfect disguise.
The fact that it's in the wild right now
Logic can also narrow down why this phone is this year's iPhone, rather than next year's model or one from the previous year's, just because it was found in the wild right now. It makes no sense for Apple to be testing 2011's model right now, in super finished form—they wouldn't be nearly finished with it. The phone also can't be last year's test model, because last year's model (based on the iPhone 3GS teardowns) components were way different. No micro-sim, much bigger logic board, no flash, no front camera, smaller battery and an inferior camera. That only leaves the 2010 model.
(https://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_open13.jpg)
The guts, the definitive proof
And finally, when we opened it up, we saw multiple components that were clearly labeled APPLE. And, because the components were fit extremely well and extremely conformed inside the case (obvious that it was designed FOR this case), it was evident that it was not just a 3G or a 3GS transplanted into another body. That probably wouldn't even be possible, with the size constraints of the thinner device and larger battery.
The New Industrial Design
At first sight, this new iPhone's industrial design seems so different from the previous two generations that it could be discarded as just a provisional case. Even while the finish is so perfect that it feels right out of the factory, some of the design language elements that are common to all Apple products are not there. Gone is the flushed screen glass against the metal rim. Gone is the single volume button, replaced by two separate ones. Gone is the seamless rim, and gone are the tapered, curved surfaces.
Despite that, however, this design is not a departure. Not when you frame it with the rest of the Apple product line. It's all the contrary: This new iPhone gets back to the simplicity of the iMac and the iPad. In fact, you can argue that the current iPhone 3GS—with its shiny chrome rim and excessively curved back—is out of place compared to the hard edges and Dieter-Ramish utilitarianism of the iMac and the iPad. Next to the iPad, for example, the new iPhone makes sense. It has the same feeling, the same functional simplicity.
But why the black plastic back, instead of going with an unibody aluminum design? Why the two audio volume buttons? Why the seams? And why doesn't the back have any curvature at all?
Why the plastic back?
The plastic back is the most obvious of the design choices. The iPad, with its all aluminum back, has seen its Wi-Fi reception radius reduced. The 3G version comes with a large patch on the top, probably big enough to provide with good reception. But the new tiny iPhone doesn't have the luxury of space: It needs to provide with as much signal as possible using a very small surface. I'm sure Jon Ive is dying to get rid of the plastic back, and go iPad-style all the way, but the wireless reception is the most important thing in a cellphone. A necessary aesthetical-functional trade-off.
Why separate volume buttons?
This new iPhone uses separate buttons for the volume instead of the single button that you can find in the iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad. It's one of the factors that may indicate that this is a provisional case, until you think about one of the most requested features for Apple's phone: A physical button for the camera. The new iPhone has a bigger sensor and a flash, which means that the camera function keeps gaining more weight. It's only logical to think that Apple may have implemented this two-button approach to provide with a physical shutter button. It makes sense.
Why the seams?
The seams are perhaps the most surprising aspect of the new design. They don't seem to respond to any aesthetic criteria and, in terms of function, we can't adventure any explanation. But they don't look bad. In fact, the whole effect seems good, like something you will find in a Braun product from the 70s.
It's doubtful that the seams are arbitrary, however. Either they will disappear from the final product, or they have a function we can't foresee at this time.
Why no tapering or curves?
As you will see in a future article, the new iPhone is so miniaturized and packed that there's no room for the tapered, curved surfaces. Everything is as tight as it could get, with no space for anything but electronics.
The hardware specs
The phone measures 4.50 by 2.31 by 0.37 inches. It weighs 140 grams. The 3GS weighs 137 grams on a postal scale (and 135 on Apple's official measurements). So, in comparison, it's 3 grams heavier. The battery is 5.25 WHr at 3.7V, compared to the 3GS battery, which is 4.51 WHr at 3.7V. On the back of the phone, it said it was XX GB, but since we were unable to get the phone to a running state, we couldn't see exactly how large it was.
How it feels
Freaking amazing. As a person who never really liked the round mound of a back in the 3GS, the sleeker, flatter, squarer design is super welcome. It feels sturdier than the 3GS, and much less plasticky. The metal buttons give it a heftier feel—less of a toy—than all previous generations. The closest analog to it would be the original iPhone, which is more square and heavy than its newer brothers.
It feels completely natural up to your face, and the fact that both the front and the back are glossy makes no difference on how well you can hold it without the phone slipping. And because it's thinner, it feels even nicer in your pants.
What all this means
Apple has updated the exterior drastically different from the 3G and 3GS. That design is old, it felt out of place compared to the rest of their products and needed desperately to be killed. Now you have a thinner body, a much more pleasant form factor with no wasted space and lots of hard lines. But the design isn't the most important part that's changed.
They've delivered many of the features people have been waiting for—that damn front camera!—while at the same time upgrading everything else. Flash, better back camera, better battery life and another microphone for better voice clarity. People who bought the 3G two years ago and are now in the perfect position to upgrade and get a dramatically different, and better, phone. If confirmed this summer, and if it performs as we expect, this next-generation iPhone looks like a winner.
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wtf?! Why did you repost that?
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Yeah, like, reposting the whole heap of stuff makes so much more sense than just providing a link to the associated post. :facepalm:
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:rollin
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Yeah, I didn't want it lost in the last page.
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Yeah, like, reposting the whole heap of stuff makes so much more sense than just providing a link to the associated post. :facepalm:
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Yeah, like, reposting the whole heap of stuff makes so much more sense than just providing a link to the associated post. :facepalm:
The link has always been there. Lrn2read.
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No, it never has. I meant the link to your post. Lrn2interpret posts correctly.
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I don't quote myself a la Zeltar. FUCK! Discuss the new iPhone and let's get over this!
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So it still doesn't have a proper keyboard?
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So it still doesn't have a proper keyboard?
Probably they will say that they have improved the touch of their new screen and that as a magical thing, when you are typing you can feel the relief like in a real keyboard.
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Just posting this again, just incase it gets lost in the last 10 posts.
Allegedly, Gizmodo says that this is the new iPhone:
https://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone
Video at the link above.
"You are looking at Apple's next iPhone. It was found lost in a bar in Redwood City, camouflaged to look like an iPhone 3GS. We got it. We disassembled it. It's the real thing, and here are all the details."
More pictures in the link above.
While Apple may tinker with the final packaging and design of the final phone, it's clear that the features in this lost-and-found next-generation iPhone are drastically new and drastically different from what came before. Here's the detailed list of our findings:
What's new
• Front-facing video chat camera
• Improved regular back-camera (the lens is quite noticeably larger than the iPhone 3GS)
• Camera flash
• Micro-SIM instead of standard SIM (like the iPad)
• Improved display. It's unclear if it's the 960x640 display thrown around before—it certainly looks like it, with the "Connect to iTunes" screen displaying much higher resolution than on a 3GS.
• What looks to be a secondary mic for noise cancellation, at the top, next to the headphone jack
• Split buttons for volume
• Power, mute, and volume buttons are all metallic
What's changed
• The back is entirely flat, made of either glass (more likely) or ceramic or shiny plastic in order for the cell signal to poke through. Tapping on the back makes a more hollow and higher pitched sound compared to tapping on the glass on the front/screen, but that could just be the orientation of components inside making for a different sound
• An aluminum border going completely around the outside
• Slightly smaller screen than the 3GS (but seemingly higher resolution)
• Everything is more squared off
• 3 grams heavier
• 16% Larger battery
• Internals components are shrunken, miniaturized and reduced to make room for the larger battery
Why we think it's definitely real
We're as skeptical—if not more—than all of you. We get false tips all the time. But after playing with it for about a week—the overall quality feels exactly like a finished final Apple phone—and disassembling this unit, there is so much evidence stacked in its favor, that there's very little possibility that it's a fake. In fact, the possibility is almost none. Imagine someone having to use Apple components to design a functioning phone, from scratch, and then disseminating it to people around the world. Pretty much impossible. Here are the reasons, one by one.
It has been reported lost
Apple-connected John Gruber—from Daring Fireball—says that Apple has indeed lost a prototype iPhone and they want it back:
So I called around, and I now believe this is an actual unit from Apple — a unit Apple is very interested in getting back.
Obviously someone found it, and here it is.
The screen
While we couldn't get it past the connect to iTunes screen for the reasons listed earlier, the USB cable on that screen was so high quality that it was impossible to discern individual pixels. We can't tell you the exact resolution of this next-generation iPhone, but it's much higher than the current iPhone 3GS.
The operating system
According to the person who found it, this iPhone was running iPhone OS 4.0 before the iPhone 4.0 announcement. The person was able to play with it and see the iPhone 4.0 features. Then, Apple remotely killed the phone before we got access to it. We were unable to restore because each firmware is device specific—3GS firmware only loads on 3GS devices—and the there are no firmwares available for this unreleased phone. Which is another clue to its authenticity.
It is recognized as an iPhone
This iPhone behaves exactly like an iPhone does when connected to a computer, with the proper boot sequence and "connect to iTunes" restore functionality. Xcode and iTunes both see this as an iPhone. Mac OS X's System Profiler also reports this as an iPhone in restore mode, which is a natural consequence of remotely wiping the phone, but report different product identifiers (both CPID and CPRV) than either the 3G or the 3GS.
It uses micro-sim
The fact that it uses a micro-sim is a clear indicator that this is a next-generation iPhone. No other cellphone uses this standard at this point in the US.
The camouflage case
The case it came inside was a fully developed plastic case to house this phone to disguise it like a 3GS. This wasn't just a normal case; it had all the proper new holes cut out for the new switches and ports and camera holes and camera flash. But it looks like something from Belkin or Case-Mate. It's a perfect disguise.
The fact that it's in the wild right now
Logic can also narrow down why this phone is this year's iPhone, rather than next year's model or one from the previous year's, just because it was found in the wild right now. It makes no sense for Apple to be testing 2011's model right now, in super finished form—they wouldn't be nearly finished with it. The phone also can't be last year's test model, because last year's model (based on the iPhone 3GS teardowns) components were way different. No micro-sim, much bigger logic board, no flash, no front camera, smaller battery and an inferior camera. That only leaves the 2010 model.
The guts, the definitive proof
And finally, when we opened it up, we saw multiple components that were clearly labeled APPLE. And, because the components were fit extremely well and extremely conformed inside the case (obvious that it was designed FOR this case), it was evident that it was not just a 3G or a 3GS transplanted into another body. That probably wouldn't even be possible, with the size constraints of the thinner device and larger battery.
The New Industrial Design
At first sight, this new iPhone's industrial design seems so different from the previous two generations that it could be discarded as just a provisional case. Even while the finish is so perfect that it feels right out of the factory, some of the design language elements that are common to all Apple products are not there. Gone is the flushed screen glass against the metal rim. Gone is the single volume button, replaced by two separate ones. Gone is the seamless rim, and gone are the tapered, curved surfaces.
Despite that, however, this design is not a departure. Not when you frame it with the rest of the Apple product line. It's all the contrary: This new iPhone gets back to the simplicity of the iMac and the iPad. In fact, you can argue that the current iPhone 3GS—with its shiny chrome rim and excessively curved back—is out of place compared to the hard edges and Dieter-Ramish utilitarianism of the iMac and the iPad. Next to the iPad, for example, the new iPhone makes sense. It has the same feeling, the same functional simplicity.
But why the black plastic back, instead of going with an unibody aluminum design? Why the two audio volume buttons? Why the seams? And why doesn't the back have any curvature at all?
Why the plastic back?
The plastic back is the most obvious of the design choices. The iPad, with its all aluminum back, has seen its Wi-Fi reception radius reduced. The 3G version comes with a large patch on the top, probably big enough to provide with good reception. But the new tiny iPhone doesn't have the luxury of space: It needs to provide with as much signal as possible using a very small surface. I'm sure Jon Ive is dying to get rid of the plastic back, and go iPad-style all the way, but the wireless reception is the most important thing in a cellphone. A necessary aesthetical-functional trade-off.
Why separate volume buttons?
This new iPhone uses separate buttons for the volume instead of the single button that you can find in the iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad. It's one of the factors that may indicate that this is a provisional case, until you think about one of the most requested features for Apple's phone: A physical button for the camera. The new iPhone has a bigger sensor and a flash, which means that the camera function keeps gaining more weight. It's only logical to think that Apple may have implemented this two-button approach to provide with a physical shutter button. It makes sense.
Why the seams?
The seams are perhaps the most surprising aspect of the new design. They don't seem to respond to any aesthetic criteria and, in terms of function, we can't adventure any explanation. But they don't look bad. In fact, the whole effect seems good, like something you will find in a Braun product from the 70s.
It's doubtful that the seams are arbitrary, however. Either they will disappear from the final product, or they have a function we can't foresee at this time.
Why no tapering or curves?
As you will see in a future article, the new iPhone is so miniaturized and packed that there's no room for the tapered, curved surfaces. Everything is as tight as it could get, with no space for anything but electronics.
The hardware specs
The phone measures 4.50 by 2.31 by 0.37 inches. It weighs 140 grams. The 3GS weighs 137 grams on a postal scale (and 135 on Apple's official measurements). So, in comparison, it's 3 grams heavier. The battery is 5.25 WHr at 3.7V, compared to the 3GS battery, which is 4.51 WHr at 3.7V. On the back of the phone, it said it was XX GB, but since we were unable to get the phone to a running state, we couldn't see exactly how large it was.
How it feels
Freaking amazing. As a person who never really liked the round mound of a back in the 3GS, the sleeker, flatter, squarer design is super welcome. It feels sturdier than the 3GS, and much less plasticky. The metal buttons give it a heftier feel—less of a toy—than all previous generations. The closest analog to it would be the original iPhone, which is more square and heavy than its newer brothers.
It feels completely natural up to your face, and the fact that both the front and the back are glossy makes no difference on how well you can hold it without the phone slipping. And because it's thinner, it feels even nicer in your pants.
What all this means
Apple has updated the exterior drastically different from the 3G and 3GS. That design is old, it felt out of place compared to the rest of their products and needed desperately to be killed. Now you have a thinner body, a much more pleasant form factor with no wasted space and lots of hard lines. But the design isn't the most important part that's changed.
They've delivered many of the features people have been waiting for—that damn front camera!—while at the same time upgrading everything else. Flash, better back camera, better battery life and another microphone for better voice clarity. People who bought the 3G two years ago and are now in the perfect position to upgrade and get a dramatically different, and better, phone. If confirmed this summer, and if it performs as we expect, this next-generation iPhone looks like a winner.
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Just posting this again, just incase it gets lost in the last 10 posts.
Allegedly, Gizmodo says that this is the new iPhone:
https://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone
Video at the link above.
"You are looking at Apple's next iPhone. It was found lost in a bar in Redwood City, camouflaged to look like an iPhone 3GS. We got it. We disassembled it. It's the real thing, and here are all the details."
More pictures in the link above.
While Apple may tinker with the final packaging and design of the final phone, it's clear that the features in this lost-and-found next-generation iPhone are drastically new and drastically different from what came before. Here's the detailed list of our findings:
What's new
• Front-facing video chat camera
• Improved regular back-camera (the lens is quite noticeably larger than the iPhone 3GS)
• Camera flash
• Micro-SIM instead of standard SIM (like the iPad)
• Improved display. It's unclear if it's the 960x640 display thrown around before—it certainly looks like it, with the "Connect to iTunes" screen displaying much higher resolution than on a 3GS.
• What looks to be a secondary mic for noise cancellation, at the top, next to the headphone jack
• Split buttons for volume
• Power, mute, and volume buttons are all metallic
What's changed
• The back is entirely flat, made of either glass (more likely) or ceramic or shiny plastic in order for the cell signal to poke through. Tapping on the back makes a more hollow and higher pitched sound compared to tapping on the glass on the front/screen, but that could just be the orientation of components inside making for a different sound
• An aluminum border going completely around the outside
• Slightly smaller screen than the 3GS (but seemingly higher resolution)
• Everything is more squared off
• 3 grams heavier
• 16% Larger battery
• Internals components are shrunken, miniaturized and reduced to make room for the larger battery
Why we think it's definitely real
We're as skeptical—if not more—than all of you. We get false tips all the time. But after playing with it for about a week—the overall quality feels exactly like a finished final Apple phone—and disassembling this unit, there is so much evidence stacked in its favor, that there's very little possibility that it's a fake. In fact, the possibility is almost none. Imagine someone having to use Apple components to design a functioning phone, from scratch, and then disseminating it to people around the world. Pretty much impossible. Here are the reasons, one by one.
It has been reported lost
Apple-connected John Gruber—from Daring Fireball—says that Apple has indeed lost a prototype iPhone and they want it back:
So I called around, and I now believe this is an actual unit from Apple — a unit Apple is very interested in getting back.
Obviously someone found it, and here it is.
The screen
While we couldn't get it past the connect to iTunes screen for the reasons listed earlier, the USB cable on that screen was so high quality that it was impossible to discern individual pixels. We can't tell you the exact resolution of this next-generation iPhone, but it's much higher than the current iPhone 3GS.
The operating system
According to the person who found it, this iPhone was running iPhone OS 4.0 before the iPhone 4.0 announcement. The person was able to play with it and see the iPhone 4.0 features. Then, Apple remotely killed the phone before we got access to it. We were unable to restore because each firmware is device specific—3GS firmware only loads on 3GS devices—and the there are no firmwares available for this unreleased phone. Which is another clue to its authenticity.
It is recognized as an iPhone
This iPhone behaves exactly like an iPhone does when connected to a computer, with the proper boot sequence and "connect to iTunes" restore functionality. Xcode and iTunes both see this as an iPhone. Mac OS X's System Profiler also reports this as an iPhone in restore mode, which is a natural consequence of remotely wiping the phone, but report different product identifiers (both CPID and CPRV) than either the 3G or the 3GS.
It uses micro-sim
The fact that it uses a micro-sim is a clear indicator that this is a next-generation iPhone. No other cellphone uses this standard at this point in the US.
The camouflage case
The case it came inside was a fully developed plastic case to house this phone to disguise it like a 3GS. This wasn't just a normal case; it had all the proper new holes cut out for the new switches and ports and camera holes and camera flash. But it looks like something from Belkin or Case-Mate. It's a perfect disguise.
The fact that it's in the wild right now
Logic can also narrow down why this phone is this year's iPhone, rather than next year's model or one from the previous year's, just because it was found in the wild right now. It makes no sense for Apple to be testing 2011's model right now, in super finished form—they wouldn't be nearly finished with it. The phone also can't be last year's test model, because last year's model (based on the iPhone 3GS teardowns) components were way different. No micro-sim, much bigger logic board, no flash, no front camera, smaller battery and an inferior camera. That only leaves the 2010 model.
The guts, the definitive proof
And finally, when we opened it up, we saw multiple components that were clearly labeled APPLE. And, because the components were fit extremely well and extremely conformed inside the case (obvious that it was designed FOR this case), it was evident that it was not just a 3G or a 3GS transplanted into another body. That probably wouldn't even be possible, with the size constraints of the thinner device and larger battery.
The New Industrial Design
At first sight, this new iPhone's industrial design seems so different from the previous two generations that it could be discarded as just a provisional case. Even while the finish is so perfect that it feels right out of the factory, some of the design language elements that are common to all Apple products are not there. Gone is the flushed screen glass against the metal rim. Gone is the single volume button, replaced by two separate ones. Gone is the seamless rim, and gone are the tapered, curved surfaces.
Despite that, however, this design is not a departure. Not when you frame it with the rest of the Apple product line. It's all the contrary: This new iPhone gets back to the simplicity of the iMac and the iPad. In fact, you can argue that the current iPhone 3GS—with its shiny chrome rim and excessively curved back—is out of place compared to the hard edges and Dieter-Ramish utilitarianism of the iMac and the iPad. Next to the iPad, for example, the new iPhone makes sense. It has the same feeling, the same functional simplicity.
But why the black plastic back, instead of going with an unibody aluminum design? Why the two audio volume buttons? Why the seams? And why doesn't the back have any curvature at all?
Why the plastic back?
The plastic back is the most obvious of the design choices. The iPad, with its all aluminum back, has seen its Wi-Fi reception radius reduced. The 3G version comes with a large patch on the top, probably big enough to provide with good reception. But the new tiny iPhone doesn't have the luxury of space: It needs to provide with as much signal as possible using a very small surface. I'm sure Jon Ive is dying to get rid of the plastic back, and go iPad-style all the way, but the wireless reception is the most important thing in a cellphone. A necessary aesthetical-functional trade-off.
Why separate volume buttons?
This new iPhone uses separate buttons for the volume instead of the single button that you can find in the iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad. It's one of the factors that may indicate that this is a provisional case, until you think about one of the most requested features for Apple's phone: A physical button for the camera. The new iPhone has a bigger sensor and a flash, which means that the camera function keeps gaining more weight. It's only logical to think that Apple may have implemented this two-button approach to provide with a physical shutter button. It makes sense.
Why the seams?
The seams are perhaps the most surprising aspect of the new design. They don't seem to respond to any aesthetic criteria and, in terms of function, we can't adventure any explanation. But they don't look bad. In fact, the whole effect seems good, like something you will find in a Braun product from the 70s.
It's doubtful that the seams are arbitrary, however. Either they will disappear from the final product, or they have a function we can't foresee at this time.
Why no tapering or curves?
As you will see in a future article, the new iPhone is so miniaturized and packed that there's no room for the tapered, curved surfaces. Everything is as tight as it could get, with no space for anything but electronics.
The hardware specs
The phone measures 4.50 by 2.31 by 0.37 inches. It weighs 140 grams. The 3GS weighs 137 grams on a postal scale (and 135 on Apple's official measurements). So, in comparison, it's 3 grams heavier. The battery is 5.25 WHr at 3.7V, compared to the 3GS battery, which is 4.51 WHr at 3.7V. On the back of the phone, it said it was XX GB, but since we were unable to get the phone to a running state, we couldn't see exactly how large it was.
How it feels
Freaking amazing. As a person who never really liked the round mound of a back in the 3GS, the sleeker, flatter, squarer design is super welcome. It feels sturdier than the 3GS, and much less plasticky. The metal buttons give it a heftier feel—less of a toy—than all previous generations. The closest analog to it would be the original iPhone, which is more square and heavy than its newer brothers.
It feels completely natural up to your face, and the fact that both the front and the back are glossy makes no difference on how well you can hold it without the phone slipping. And because it's thinner, it feels even nicer in your pants.
What all this means
Apple has updated the exterior drastically different from the 3G and 3GS. That design is old, it felt out of place compared to the rest of their products and needed desperately to be killed. Now you have a thinner body, a much more pleasant form factor with no wasted space and lots of hard lines. But the design isn't the most important part that's changed.
They've delivered many of the features people have been waiting for—that damn front camera!—while at the same time upgrading everything else. Flash, better back camera, better battery life and another microphone for better voice clarity. People who bought the 3G two years ago and are now in the perfect position to upgrade and get a dramatically different, and better, phone. If confirmed this summer, and if it performs as we expect, this next-generation iPhone looks like a winner.
Just quoting so you guys don't forget.
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Thanks. My mind is like a sieve these days.
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Hey no problem. Fuck, I think we need to post it again because there's been 2 post after I quoted that!
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What were we discussing again?
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Hey, I got lost in this thread, can someone repost all the info about the iphone?
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Yeah I heard it was posted a little up the page, but I have so much trouble scrolling. I don't know what I would ever do if it were to go to the previous page.
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You would be fucked.
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:itchy:
:borlag:
I wish we could lock our own threads.
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We could, but then Nick became a mod.
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Don't worry, you'll forget that all of this ever happened in two or three more posts.
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Forget what? What the hell are you talking about?!?!
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Fucking iPhone, what have I done?
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You accidentally the whole thing.
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Fucking iPhone, how does it work?
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:rollin
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Fucking iPhone, how does it work?
Whoosh.
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Apart from having the word "Fucking", the sentence isn't even similar.
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Shit, repost the iPhone specs!!
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HOLY CRAP. WE'RE ON A NEW PAGE NOW!
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I'm gonna do it!
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This thread just turned legendary. And I don't even know what it's about.
Nah j/k, it's about Kevin Moore right?
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The Count of Tuscany!
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The Count of Tuscany!
A bearded gentleman, hIsRoRiAn!
BROW-SING through his apps :metal
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on topic
It's fucking ugly
off topic
in my mouth
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Whatever we're talking about doesn't look at good as the previous version of whatever it is.
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Fake.
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Anyone else think that this phone wasn't just "left" somewhere by accident?
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https://gizmodo.com/5520479/a-letter-apple-wants-its-secret-iphone-back
Yeah, totally not on accident. Gizmodo are scum too, paying for stolen goods.
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https://gizmodo.com/5520479/a-letter-apple-wants-its-secret-iphone-back
Yeah, totally not on accident. Gizmodo are scum too, paying for stolen goods.
Huh? "Just so you know, we didn't know this was stolen [as they might have claimed. meaning, real and truly from Apple. It was found, and to be of unproven origin] when we bought it."
Sure the guy seemed kind of like a jerk, but not sure he's "scum."
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Oh come on, what else would it be?
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https://gizmodo.com/5520479/a-letter-apple-wants-its-secret-iphone-back
Yeah, totally not on accident. Gizmodo are scum too, paying for stolen goods.
Huh? "Just so you know, we didn't know this was stolen [as they might have claimed. meaning, real and truly from Apple. It was found, and to be of unproven origin] when we bought it."
Sure the guy seemed kind of like a jerk, but not sure he's "scum."
Oh yeah, someone offering you the phone for sale. It's not stolen or anything. Right.
That's one thing, but how about posting the person's personal info?
https://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone
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Oh come on, what else would it be?
This. Why would they pay (Edit: they paid $5000!) for something they didn't think could be a real thing? And what they're doing now to the guy who lost it... grmf.
A lot of people are doing the "I'm never coming back" thing with gizmodo now, including my husband. Just removed them from his RSS reader completely. Me, I'm gonna see how this all ends up! How low can Jesus stoop? Heh.
No, really, I'm just enjoying watching epic geek internet drama unfold in front of my eyes without me being any part of it at all.
Sneak Edit: Yeah, Pyroph said more eloquently than me what I feel.
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It's funny that people still use gizmodo anyway. Engadget has been better for months, not that I use either. But I just remember reading gizmodo and cringing at the immature and badly written articles. And it's not like geekologie where it's done in a sarcastic fashion, and makes you laugh.
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I've always been more of an engadget reader, but they have one writer who just pisses me off. His name is Joshua Topolsky or something like that. Either way, he's a bitch.
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/yahoocanada/100419/canada/the_ipad__a_cat_s_perspective (https://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/yahoocanada/100419/canada/the_ipad__a_cat_s_perspective)
A cat playing around on an iPad. :D
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It's funny that people still use gizmodo anyway. Engadget has been better for months, not that I use either. But I just remember reading gizmodo and cringing at the immature and badly written articles. And it's not like geekologie where it's done in a sarcastic fashion, and makes you laugh.
geekologie, you say? I'm intrigued... I have them both in my RSS reader, I read what catches my eye but I'm considering dumping giz. They write about the same stuff anyway, just engagdet does it more seriously and I'd much rather read serious than "we're trying to be funny but we're mostly immature"
*goes to search for geekologie*
I've always been more of an engadget reader, but they have one writer who just pisses me off. His name is Joshua Topolsky or something like that. Either way, he's a bitch.
He's the editor in chief, and Husband ceremoniously never reads anything he writes :P I often don't notice who's writing, but I'm looking at his specific articles now and I can't remember opening even one of them from my RSS reader. Maybe I subconsciously hate him.
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Lookie what Joel Johnson says in his article about why Apple Didn't Leak this phone:
"While the outing of Apple engineer Gray Powell was inevitable—his name was going to come out anyway, and there is a real if slight chance that foisting him into the public eye might help him keep his job at Apple—I think the way we did it was incredibly tacky. I've said my piece to my co-workers, but I bring it up here because it's important for another reason."
Ok, so at least someone in there sees that! (article here: https://gizmodo.com/5520746/apple-didnt-leak-the-iphoneand-why-that-matters I just skimmed until my eyes fell upon that I quoted there)
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Geekologie is a lot less tech-news focused, and just general awesome stuff. but most of it is so brilliant that it's worth RSSing anyway :D
(Though recently there has been an increasing focus on non-tech stuff, it's not as good. But the archives are great anyway)
edit: case in point of geekologie awesomeness - recent story talked about these:
(https://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/16/chariot-skates-1.jpg)
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https://gizmodo.com/5524843/police-seize-jason-chens-computers
Breakdown:
- In California (and most places), "finders keepers" doesn't work ... taking something that someone left behind is theft
- This means that Gizmodo purchased stolen property
- Gizmodo paid the "finder" equal to or above $5000, making it a FELONY
- Apple seized all of Gizmodo writer Jason Chen's computer equipment, most likely looking for information on the "finder"
- Gizmodo and "finder" are both royally fucked for committing felonies, plus the damages Apple could claim for having competitive information made publicly available
- Gizmodo is claiming that Apple's search warrant isn't valid (they are wrong)
- lol
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I seem to remember that they tried to return the phone to apple multiple times. How does that not count for something?
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I seem to remember that they tried to return the phone to apple multiple times. How does that not count for something?
Because Apple sucks?
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Well that's obvious.
edit: And what's with bashing the door open? It's a stolen iphone, not a drug bust. Does the police department not have anyone who knows how to pick a lock?
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That whole situation is pretty damn ridiculous.
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That whole situation is pretty damn rediculous.
lol
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That whole situation is pretty damn rediculous.
lol
lolgrammarnazi
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That whole situation is pretty damn rediculous.
lol
:yeahright
There, I fixed it. Happy now?
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https://gizmodo.com/5524843/police-seize-jason-chens-computers
Breakdown:
(...)
- Apple seized all of Gizmodo writer Jason Chen's computer equipment, most likely looking for information on the "finder"
(...)- lol
No, they didn't. Police did. Apple can file a civil suit, but they can't investigate criminal charges, heh.
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"Under both state and federal law, a search warrant may not be validly issued to confiscate the property of a journalist," she wrote in a letter to San Mateo County authorities on Saturday.
"It is abundantly clear under the law that a search warrant to remove these items was invalid. The appropriate method of obtaining such materials would be the issuance of a subpoena," said Ms. Darbyshire.
Gawker Media said the issue now throws into question whether or not bloggers are considered journalists under the law.
Advocacy group the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), which is following the case, said it found the latest events worrying for two reasons.
"You have a reporter who is disseminating newsworthy information to the public that are supposed to be protected from search and seizures. These protections apply to people who collect information in order to report it to the public regardless of what name you slap on them; blogger, journalist or whatever," Jennifer Ganick, the EFFs civil liberties director told BBC News.
The second issue the EFF is concerned about is if police officers are doing the investigative work of a private company.
"If there was some offence here it is not apparent what it is", she said.
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8645884.stm
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That whole situation is pretty damn rediculous.
lol
You might want to get that giant broomstick out of your rear end.
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That whole situation is pretty damn rediculous.
lol
You might want to get that giant broomstick out of your rear end.
tri.ad, I like you. I really do. But if you want to continue with this attitude towards me where you are taking everything too seriously on the Internet and trying to rip me 'cause the way I post, we are not a match. And I sincerely recommend to you to get a Mac. Happy Vlasto Day. Fucking magnets. How do they work?!, Imma let you finish! I'm gonna post this again because it got lost in the last post of the previous page. lrn2Rd! Good God, what is this?! et al.
(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_84.jpg)
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That whole situation is pretty damn rediculous.
lol
You might want to get those drugs out of your ass
Fixed.
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That whole situation is pretty damn rediculous.
lol
You might want to get that giant broomstick out of your rear end.
tri.ad, I like you. I really do. But if you want to continue with this attitude towards me where you are taking everything too seriously on the Internet and trying to rip me 'cause the way I post, we are not a match. And I sincerely recommend to you to get a Mac. Happy Vlasto Day. Fucking magnets. How do they work?!, Imma let you finish! I'm gonna post this again because it got lost in the last post of the previous page. lrn2Rd! Good God, what is this?! et al.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_84.jpg
Stop trying to be funny, because you aren't. The question about how much I'm taking things seriously is my business and not yours. And again, you might want to get that giant broomstick out of your rear end.
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it sure is broomsticked rear ends in here
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That whole situation is pretty damn rediculous.
lol
You might want to get that giant broomstick out of your rear end.
tri.ad, I like you. I really do. But if you want to continue with this attitude towards me where you are taking everything too seriously on the Internet and trying to rip me 'cause the way I post, we are not a match. And I sincerely recommend to you to get a Mac. Happy Vlasto Day. Fucking magnets. How do they work?!, Imma let you finish! I'm gonna post this again because it got lost in the last post of the previous page. lrn2Rd! Good God, what is this?! et al.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_84.jpg
Stop trying to be funny, because you aren't. The question about how much I'm taking things seriously is my business and not yours. And again, you might want to get that giant broomstick out of your rear end.
Nah, you see, when you take your pathetic life problems and discharge your anger towards me based on my harmless humour (if you think it's funny or not, really, I do not care), you make it my problem as well.
So you may reconsider a) not to post for a while and get your personal problems straight and maybe not discharge your anger towards me b) carry on posting (or just lurk, whatever) but ignore my posts and never address them again ('cause, seriously, I couldn't care less if you don't think I'm a valuable member anymore - "Seriously, man. We're done professionally." Stop pissing at my parade c) Get a Mac d) Keep reading my posts, keep replying to my posts and keep getting angrier and angrier, and then insult me again until you get a ban.
What's it gonna be then, eh?
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That's some nice assumptions there, emindead.
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That's some nice assumptions there, emindead.
True. I don't know what's the main reason for him getting so upset lately. Though I wouldn't consider a happy guy getting cranky at someone who's doing nothing wrong just because a probable possibility. I hope he's OK.
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Apple getting an unfounded warrant rammed through so they could search a man's house..."surprised" me today. Especially after said man returned Apple's property.
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Nah, you see, when you take your pathetic life problems and make it an Internet problem based on my harmless humour, you make it my problem as well.
Where are you taking that from? You don't know anything about me and my so-called "pathetic life problems". Think about posting such things before actually doing it, or do some proper research.
So you may reconsider a) not to post for a while and get your personal problems straight and maybe not discharge your anger towards me
I'm not discharging any anger towards you, and again, why do you think that this has got to do anything with my personal problems? Also, don't set up such stupid rules such as "don't post anything for a while". You're not my boss, so don't pretend to be it.
b) carry on posting (or just lurk, whatever) but ignore my posts and never address them again
Which posts I'm addressing and which not is my business and not anyone else's. I don't see why I should be more considerate of certain members than others because of their way they post or their general attitude about this forum and their members etc.
I couldn't care less if you don't think I'm a valuable member anymore - "Seriously, man. We're done professionally."
Admittedly, that was out of line, so I edited it out. But since you don't care about it anyway...
c) Get a Mac
Again, stop trying so hard to be funny.
d) Keep reading my posts, keep replying to my posts and keep getting angrier and angrier, and then insult me again until you get a ban.
Ah, so that's what you want, apparently. Well, unlike other people, I'm actually able to shut up when it's necessary, so me getting a ban for insulting you (which I didn't, I was just putting out a statement) is unlikely to happen.
Seriously, you really seem to have problems with dealing with criticism. You are the first person to pick on mistakes and stuff by other members, and let me tell you this, people are getting pissed off by it, and rightly so. But God forbid that anyone criticises your way of posting that obviously doesn't really appeal to many people here (I've discussed that with several other DTF people, and we're all in agreement that your style is aggravating and annyoing to a mentionable amount of members here sometimes), and you jump out pointing your finger at the one who criticised you and pretending to be invulnerable etc.
I don't know why you think that criticism is a personal insult to you, but if you think that I should be banned, carry on doing what you have to do.
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ENOUGH
I don't know what the problem is, but both of you chill out.
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John Stewart on the whole deal: https://mashable.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-apple/ :lol
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Not available in my country. Lame.
But if he's the guy I'm thinking he is, I probably don't want to watch it anyway.
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John Stewart on the whole deal: https://mashable.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-apple/ :lol
I loved the part about Bill Gates now ridding the world of mosquitoes :lol
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John Stewart on the whole deal: https://mashable.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-apple/ :lol
:lol
But if he's the guy I'm thinking he is, I probably don't want to watch it anyway.
???
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John Stewart on the whole deal: https://mashable.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-apple/ :lol
:rollin
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https://i.imgur.com/S4wlS.jpg
(https://i.imgur.com/S4wlS.jpg)
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Please tell me that's not someone's real opinion.
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It is, I read the same article a couple days ago. I felt the same way as the rage character.
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Jesus H Fucking christ.
They give you more, but they demand more. They require more troubleshooting of problems, more general system maintenance, more file management.
I will never for the life of me understand this argument. I've had my PC for three years now, and I really have no problems or maintenance to deal with. It's like these people watched an infomercial for Macs that had a bunch of black and white shots of people looking frustrated while using some HP from 1997 and just assumed that's how computers are.
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It is, I read the same article a couple days ago. I felt the same way as the rage character.
Wow, I'm all for iPads and stuff and think they will slow sales of netbooks (oh yeah, they already are (https://mashable.com/2010/05/06/ipad-netbook-market/)), but it's absolutely ridiculous to think they'll replace desktops. I don't even want to comment on how idiotic carrying two would be.
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I'd even understand why sales of desktops would drop due to the iPad. The iPad is just as expensive as a decent desktop, and people are buying into the hype and novelty right now and don't have the money to buy both. Just because people are buying an iPad instead of a desktop does not mean that desktops are going to go away.
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I think I did the rage face when reading that "I need multitasking therefore I'll buy two!!". FUCK!
Edit: I sometimes doubt if Apple is really leading its users to innovation, more like to retardation.
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I think I did the rage face when reading that "I need multitasking therefore I'll buy two!!". FUCK!
Edit: I sometimes doubt if Apple is really leading its users to innovation, more like to retardation.
They're just taking advantage of peoples stupidity. Good business. People would dumb without apple as well.
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I think I did the rage face when reading that "I need multitasking therefore I'll buy two!!". FUCK!
Edit: I sometimes doubt if Apple is really leading its users to innovation, more like to retardation.
They're just taking advantage of peoples stupidity. Good business. People would dumb without apple as well.
There was a comment from the website I took this pic that said:
1. Invest in Apple
2. ?? ?? ?? ??
3. Profit!!! thanks to sheep
Why aren't we all investing in Apple, really. It looks like there is no loss with them.
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I agree. Go invest in apple. Unfortunatly with so many people investing in apple, your stock won't raise a whole lot, but I doubt you'll lose much.
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I remember I had seen something related on the idea of investing in Apple. Check this out, it's really interesting and mind fucking:
What if I had bought Apple stock instead?
Currently, Apple's stock is at an all time high. A share today is worth over 40 times its value seven years ago. So, how much would you have today if you purchased stock instead of an Apple product? See for yourself in the table below. A huge thanks to everymac.com for the original prices and release dates. All values are calculated using Apple's current stock price according to https://brivierestockquotes.appspot.com.
I have also released the data set behind the calculations, which include Apple's stock price since 1997 as well as almost all Apple products released since 1997. Code at www.github.com/derferman/apple-stock
Big thanks to gojomo at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1291809 for the idea
UPDATE: It appears that my original numbers were correct, as the stock price used was the "adjusted close" price, which takes into account Apple's stock splits over the years. Thanks to all the people who sent email concerning the error.
Here you can look at an incredibly detailed chart that will make you wish you have sold all your belongings in 1997 (https://www.kyleconroy.com/apple-stock.php)
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Thanks for posting the same image a second time on the same page.
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He just wanted to make sure no one missed it.
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Thanks emindead.
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He just wanted to make sure no one missed it.
Missed what? Can you repost it?
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I thought we had this joke before. Sorry :P
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I thought we had that picture before.
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John Stewart on the whole deal: https://mashable.com/2010/04/29/jon-stewart-apple/ :lol
That was awesome.
rumborak
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Thanks, emindead.
The Market will sort it out.
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<3 Foxtrot
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<3 Foxtrot
:heart
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Can you use netflix on an iphone? If you can, it will be my deciding factor.
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Not currently, but apparently it's in the works: https://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10472854-233.html
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If by feb of next year, they have a netflix app for the iphone, I'll buy one.
Also, if apple would allow other service providers other than att to handle their phones, I'd be happy. ATT sucks.
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Why would you need Netflix on your phone?
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Why would you need Netflix on your phone?
I like to travel alot. I like watching movies while I travel and my laptop usually doesn't last that long nor is it easy to carry around on a train or car or something. And putting movies on my ipod takes up lots of memory and gives me a small selection. This way when I travel I can watch random movies/tv-shows on my iphone and not have a memory problem.
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Christ, even homebrew software that should make this thing cool sucks cock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlcigMvkkoU&feature=player_embedded
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???
I thought it was pretty cool.
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Cool? Sure why not, but completely impractical. You have an ipad, jailbreak it, but then to play mario you have to go get a iphone and crack that too? (Not to mention carry it with you wherever you go)
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Just dropping in to say that you don't need to jail break Android handsets to use emulators. In fact, you can buy/pay nothing for them on the app market.
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Cool? Sure why not, but completely impractical. You have an ipad, jailbreak it, but then to play mario you have to go get a iphone and crack that too? (Not to mention carry it with you wherever you go)
Sure, but the developer worked with what he had and still made a fairly cool, if not all that practical, app.
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He could have just split the controller between the two sides of the ipad, that way you can actually hold it and not need a phone to play it.
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I could imagine that being really cumbersome.
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And sitting anywhere besides a desk with this setup isn't? I can't even imagine trying to use it laying on a couch or sitting on a train.
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It doesn't look like it was actually designed to be used travelling anyway. To me, it's just a cool program to show what developers can do with the iPad/iPhone.
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That doesn't make any sense though. Nothing about that was revolutionary - emulators have been around forever, and bluetooth connects devices. Why you port something to it just to demonstrate something everyone already knew was possible, instead of trying to make it actually useable?
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I'm not a developer, so *shrug*.
I'm still saying it's pretty cool, even if it isn't very useful and it still doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't buy an iPad in a million years.
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I thought it was cool, completely unpractical and not sure how fun it would be with a touch screen for a controller, but SNES is awesome.
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I wonder when the iphone will get a keyboard. Oh wait, never because they are too unstylish.
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Just dropping in to say that you don't need to jail break Android handsets to use emulators. In fact, you can buy/pay nothing for them on the app market.
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Just dropping to say I'm off to get a HTC Desire next month.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbHF63b7g50
I wonder what OS is popular on Yavin?
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Holy shit I want an HTC Incredible
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Maybe we should do an official Android OS thread. :lol
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Sounds like a plan!
Edit: Done:
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=13765.0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbHF63b7g50
I wonder what OS is popular on Yavin?
I love Adam Buxton's videos :lol
I tried an iPad yesterday. Not at all useful and it seriously costs far more than it should. Seriously, Ł450?!?
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Yes, the UK is the most expensive place to buy an iPad right now.
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I tried an iPad yesterday. Not at all useful and it seriously costs far more than it should. Seriously, Ł450?!?
*Does conversion to US dollars*
HOLY SHIT!!!!
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That's almost 700 dollars. Holy crap. Is that the basic model?
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Yes. It's Ł700 for the 64GB model.
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Yes. It's Ł700 for the 64GB model.
Damn.
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Tell me about it. You could buy a damn good desktop for that price.
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YEAH, BUT THE IPAD IS *clears throat* MAGICAL
*faints*
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My brother just bought an iPad and he loves it.
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Anyone have an Ipad with bebot? I'd love to see a demo of that. Or other musical apps.
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Now that I know I need probably a month more of saving to buy a new music player, I'm wondering if I should wait until September for the new iPod models. I'm looking forward to the new iPod Classic Gen (or even a little modification), but to wait for it means I have to endure 3 months of school life without music. You probably know how terrible it is.
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My brother just bought an iPad and he loves it.
I feel like anyone who buys an iPad will love it if only for justification purposes.
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He's just happy browsing on the internet with it. Moving from one place to another with no problem. It's easier to read e-books. *shrugs*
I thought it was a stupid purchase too, but whatever.
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I can't imagine reading an e-book on a computer screen like that.
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I did the comparison yesterday, and it has the same height as my Dell Inspiron 1420 (dimensions: 1440x900), but the width is considerably smaller.
It almost has the proper dimensions of a regular book, so reading with the iPad is much more comfortable than with my laptop. That's a plus for the iPad.
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Reading is much more comfortable with an actual book
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Reading is much more comfortable with an actual book
This. Reading a book, with all its pleasures (and nuisances, if there are any), is better than reading an eBook (though I can see its advantages).
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Reading is much more comfortable with an actual book
This. Reading a book, with all its pleasures (and nuisances, if there are any), is better than reading an eBook (though I can see its advantages).
The two major advantages are controlling font and size and being able to walk around with several hundred books at once.
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Reading is much more comfortable with an actual book
This. Reading a book, with all its pleasures (and nuisances, if there are any), is better than reading an eBook (though I can see its advantages).
The two major advantages are controlling font and size and being able to walk around with several hundred books at once.
This.
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I actually really want an ebook reader, I just see the ipads screen as being rather stressful on the eyes compared to an actual reader.
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Reading is much more comfortable with an actual book
This. Reading a book, with all its pleasures (and nuisances, if there are any), is better than reading an eBook (though I can see its advantages).
The two major advantages are controlling font and size and being able to walk around with several hundred books at once.
Why would I need to walk around with several hundred books at once? I only read maybe one any given month
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I actually really want an ebook reader, I just see the ipads screen as being rather stressful on the eyes compared to an actual reader.
I'll give you my opinion when my brother comes and lets me read on his iPad and see how many features it has.
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Reading is much more comfortable with an actual book
This. Reading a book, with all its pleasures (and nuisances, if there are any), is better than reading an eBook (though I can see its advantages).
The two major advantages are controlling font and size and being able to walk around with several hundred books at once.
Why would I need to walk around with several hundred books at once? I only read maybe one any given month
Imagine if you were doing heavy research and needed several dozen or even hundred refferences. Finding them in libraries and seperating them out would take forever. This saves a lot of time and space. It also means for school, college and so forth, students can walk around with 1 object, rather than a back pack full of books, note books and so forth. Say, you're working on a paper and vaguely remember a chapter in a book that could help. Instead of hunting down that book and searching for whatever it is you're looking for, you can open it in an Ipad or Ebook or whatever and enter the search, saves tons of time.
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Yup. For research, studies etc., an eBook or the iPad surely comes in handy for the reasons Adami stated. But for your own entertainment, I don't really see the need for such a thing.
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nevermind
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Yup. For research, studies etc., an eBook or the iPad surely comes in handy for the reasons Adami stated. But for your own entertainment, I don't really see the need for such a thing.
Why do you need an mp3 player with more than room for two or three albums? Are you really going to listen to more than that on a trip?
Also: Steve Jobs at D8 uncut (https://video.allthingsd.com/video/d8-steve-jobs-onstage-full-length-video/70F7CC1D-FFBF-4BE0-BFF1-08C300E31E11).
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Yup. For research, studies etc., an eBook or the iPad surely comes in handy for the reasons Adami stated. But for your own entertainment, I don't really see the need for such a thing.
Why do you need an mp3 player with more than room for two or three albums? Are you really going to listen to more than that on a trip?
Ummm... yes!
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That's a really poor analogy.
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That's a really poor analogy.
It is, to an extent. How long will a book take to read? Ten, twenty hours? And yet most iPods will hold, and are filled with, days or weeks worth of music.
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Yet the variety is what matters with music. You have say 200 albums, but you don't know what you're going to feel like listening to wherever you are. Most people don't even listen to full albums, just individual songs. No one does that with books - they don't read a chapter here or a chapter there, they read the entire thing and move on.
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Yet the variety is what matters with music. You have say 200 albums, but you don't know what you're going to feel like listening to wherever you are. Most people don't even listen to full albums, just individual songs. No one does that with books - they don't read a chapter here or a chapter there, they read the entire thing and move on.
And yet, like the said research example some only do read a chapter or a paragraph. I see it as the equivalent to making the transition from having a shelf full of CDs... and now they come with me at all times. I have a shelf full of books... and now they come with me at all times.
Same with I had a desktop... and now (via laptops) it comes with me all the time. And tablets just increase the portability of laptops.
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Research != recreational reading
I'm not discounting readers at all, personally I want one. All I'm saying is that there's a major difference between having a hundred albums portable and a hundred novels.
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Yup. For research, studies etc., an eBook or the iPad surely comes in handy for the reasons Adami stated. But for your own entertainment, I don't really see the need for such a thing.
Why do you need an mp3 player with more than room for two or three albums? Are you really going to listen to more than that on a trip?
Definitely yes. Besides, having more diversity than just two or three albums is mostly a good thing.
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I'm not gonna start reading books on LCD displays. If they come out with an e-reader that also acts as a computer monitor, I'd dish out the money right there.
rumborak
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I'm not gonna start reading books on LCD displays. If they come out with an e-reader that also acts as a computer monitor, I'd dish out the money right there.
rumborak
Why? To be portable it must be small and to be small would make is bad as a computer monitor.
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I take it you've never heard of a technology called "E-Ink"?
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I'm not gonna start reading books on LCD displays. If they come out with an e-reader that also acts as a computer monitor, I'd dish out the money right there.
rumborak
Why? To be portable it must be small and to be small would make is bad as a computer monitor.
I stare into an LCD screen all day long at work, and I find them incredibly straining on the eyes. What I was talking about is that the current e-ink readers are all proprietary, i.e. you can't use them as a simple display unit attached to your computer. I would loooove a secondary e-ink display on my computer that I can read my emails at etc.
rumborak
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I'm not gonna start reading books on LCD displays. If they come out with an e-reader that also acts as a computer monitor, I'd dish out the money right there.
rumborak
Why? To be portable it must be small and to be small would make is bad as a computer monitor.
I stare into an LCD screen all day long at work, and I find them incredibly straining on the eyes. What I was talking about is that the current e-ink readers are all proprietary, i.e. you can't use them as a simple display unit attached to your computer. I would loooove a secondary e-ink display on my computer that I can read my emails at etc.
rumborak
That makes sense, I was wondering why you would want a 10 inch blank and white computer monitor.
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This just in: Apple is great, great, awesome, incredible (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7v815bYUw).
Really.
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Apparently they need a thesaurus app.
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This just in: Apple is great, great, awesome, incredible (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7v815bYUw).
I almost got excited at 0:57, then I saw that it was Alicia Key's "As I Am."
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Apparently they need a thesaraus app.
and you need a spelling one :D
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Why would you change my post just to make it look like I don't know how to spell? Not cool man, not cool.
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iPad + Velcro = :heart
https://vimeo.com/11886557
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:lol Very nice
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iPad + Velcro = :heart
https://vimeo.com/11886557
That was "simply" brilliant.
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https://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple
:lol
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"Will gargle balls for money" :rollin
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holy shit I love the oatmeal :lol
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What really got me was Clippy. God damn Clippy. :rollin :rollin :rollin
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https://mashable.com/2010/06/17/tablets-netbooks-projections/
Anyone still bashing tablets?
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I don't think anyone here was bashing tablets, just the ipad.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HHLNQ3BZEA
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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:lol
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https://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/some-iphone-4-models-see-signals-drop-to-0-when-held-left-handed/
What's more annoying than spending hours lining up for a shiny new gadget? Learning that your precious phone can't actually connect to the network. Well, depending on how you hold it -- word has it that the iPhone 4's bottom-left corner isn't playing nice with your skin. If you recall from the keynote, that's where the Bluetooth / WiFi / GPS antenna meets its GSM / UMTS counterpart. So we decided to test on two brand new iPhone 4 handsets purchased today in the UK.
One iPhone 4 demonstrated the issue everytime it was held in our left hand (as a right-handed person is apt to do) so that our palm was essentially bridging the two antennas. You can see that in the video after the break. Bridging the two with a finger tip, however, didn't cause any issues with the reported reception. If we had to guess, we'd say that our conductive skin was acting to detune the antenna -- in fact, we've already managed to slowly kill two calls that way so it's not just an issue with the software erroneously reporting an incorrect signal strength. That said, we had no issues when Apple's $29 rubber bumper accessory (given to us free for standing in line) was attached, creating a buffer between our palm and the antennas. See the video evidence after the break including Insanely Great Mac's version which got us to worrying in the first place.
P.S. Don't forget to take our poll and let us know if you're seeing both the yellow spots / stripes and reception issues. Unfortunately, we're suffering from both flaws which is not a good sign for quality control on this first batch of Apple handsets.
(Video of it in the link)
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Wow, that's serious.
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:facepalm:
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And once again, Apple did not surprise me.
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ololololol
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Marketing ploy to get people to buy a case
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(https://i.imgur.com/ShUHV.png)
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(https://imgur.com/51f9p.jpg)
Presenting the new new new MacBook Air.
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:rollin :rollin :rollin
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(https://imgur.com/51f9p.jpg)
Presenting the new new new MacBook Air.
Terribly overpriced and with shitty specs.
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Agreed.
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Correct me if I'm reading this wrong but are they seriously limiting them to 64 and 128 GB storage? Dear god that's terrible.
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I just don't understand.
No, really, WTF?
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Correct me if I'm reading this wrong but are they seriously limiting them to 64 and 128 GB storage? Dear god that's terrible.
Apparently, they sacrificed using a hard drive instead of a flash drive for the purpose of making it as thin as possible.
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I love how their marketing spin on that is "it's more green".
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Yeah even as a apple fanboy I could care less about the "green" factor.
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https://mashable.com/2010/10/19/vintage-apple-products/
Hah, I vaguely remember adjustable keyboards.
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Apple is suing Motorola:
https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371822,00.asp
What Apple is saying is that Motorola basically copied the iPhone. Court documents said Apple has a problem with "smartphones and associated software, including operating systems, user interfaces, and other application software designed for use on, and loaded onto such devices."
Brb guys. I'm gonna go patent breathing and sue the entire world.
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Ah, so Apple got tired of suing HTC over the same thing and is now suing Motorola. :rollin
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I love how broad Apple makes their patents, or at least their interpretations of their patents.
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The US patent system is out of control.
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There is a guy in my office who has an iPad, and his desk is the most creepy thing ever. Not a single sheet of paper.
It freaked me out so badly.
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Already said this in the chat thread, but apparently rain is enough to break and void the warranty of an iPhone in a sealable bag which is itself within a backpack. Wonderful.
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Yep, that's Apple for you!
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There is a guy in my office who has an iPad, and his desk is the most creepy thing ever. Not a single sheet of paper.
It freaked me out so badly.
Did he greet you with a smile and say, "Hello, welcome to the future." ?
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(https://www.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/whats%20up%20apples%20sleeve_604x341.JPG)
Hmmmm...
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https://www.crunchgear.com/2010/11/15/will-apple-kill-the-mp3-tomorrow/
Seems plausible...
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ugh are they going to revolutionize something again?
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ugh are they going to revolutionize something again?
I hear they recently invented buttons.
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I love this from the article:
If you can access the Internet (“the Cloud”), then you can listen to your tunes.
What if I can't?
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I love this from the article:
If you can access the Internet (“the Cloud”), then you can listen to your tunes.
What if I can't?
Then hold your phone differently.
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Is dis rite?
(https://www.textually.org/textually/archives/images/set1/drewpissedngage.jpg)
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OH GAWD!! I remember that retarded thing!
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ugh are they going to revolutionize something again?
I was thinking about that new MacBook Air commercial.. "Everything we've learned has come down to this." Really? Everything? How do you top that with your next product? Especially considering that it's not that advanced compared to what has existed for years.
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ugh are they going to revolutionize something again?
I was thinking about that new MacBook Air commercial.. "Everything we've learned has come down to this." Really? Everything? How do you top that with your next product? Especially considering that it's not that advanced compared to what has existed for years.
Did the macbook air finally get a cd drive?
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I love this from the article:
If you can access the Internet (“the Cloud”), then you can listen to your tunes.
What if I can't?
You're fine now, aren't you? It's just another feature.
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ugh are they going to revolutionize something again?
I was thinking about that new MacBook Air commercial.. "Everything we've learned has come down to this." Really? Everything? How do you top that with your next product? Especially considering that it's not that advanced compared to what has existed for years.
Did the macbook air finally get a cd drive?
No, that's actually one thing that's not bad about it. CDs are becoming obsolete. We've done that and we're moving on. The problem is that it's too high priced for what you get.
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ugh are they going to revolutionize something again?
I was thinking about that new MacBook Air commercial.. "Everything we've learned has come down to this." Really? Everything? How do you top that with your next product? Especially considering that it's not that advanced compared to what has existed for years.
I loved how they removed useful features and then claimed it was new.
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ugh are they going to revolutionize something again?
I was thinking about that new MacBook Air commercial.. "Everything we've learned has come down to this." Really? Everything? How do you top that with your next product? Especially considering that it's not that advanced compared to what has existed for years.
I loved how they removed useful features and then claimed it was new.
The next Macbook will be called The Macbook Paper. It will actually be paper thin. In fact, it will just be a piece of paper with the words "Macbook" written on it.
Pricess start at 3,000 dollars for a color copy, and 2,500 for black and white. It says it contains all new features such as the ability to fold and be easily recycled.
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What if I want it college ruled?
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What if I want it college ruled?
Special Order.
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ugh are they going to revolutionize something again?
I was thinking about that new MacBook Air commercial.. "Everything we've learned has come down to this." Really? Everything? How do you top that with your next product? Especially considering that it's not that advanced compared to what has existed for years.
I loved how they removed useful features and then claimed it was new.
The next Macbook will be called The Macbook Paper. It will actually be paper thin. In fact, it will just be a piece of paper with the words "Macbook" written on it.
Pricess start at 3,000 dollars for a color copy, and 2,500 for black and white. It says it contains all new features such as the ability to fold and be easily recycled.
Joking aside though with the advancements in e-paper, that might actually be true. :lol
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https://www.crunchgear.com/2010/11/15/will-apple-kill-the-mp3-tomorrow/
Seems plausible...
Killing the mp3? Nah. Sometimes you don't have access to the Internet. You have your music. You have accumulated it for years. What are you going to do now, delete it and start clicking again song for song until you find something you like and build a humongous playlist like you would normally do if you open Winamp and press the shuffle button? I don't think so.
Apple may unveil that, but it won't work!
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Also they'd probably charge you a monthly fee for utilizing those music files.
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Exactly. Horrible scenario.
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I just heard a rumor that "the Beatles may be involved." If that's the big reveal... ultra facepalm.
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"Apple Will Not Surprise Me Today"
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Well then it's a good thing they aren't unveiling the surprise today.
:jamaritard:
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I just heard a rumor that "the Beatles may be involved." If that's the big reveal... ultra facepalm.
What's the deal with The Beatles?
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Here's hoping for the Iwheel.
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Here's hoping for the Iwheel.
The Onion?
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ugh are they going to revolutionize something again?
I was thinking about that new MacBook Air commercial.. "Everything we've learned has come down to this." Really? Everything? How do you top that with your next product? Especially considering that it's not that advanced compared to what has existed for years.
I loved how they removed useful features and then claimed it was new.
The next Macbook will be called The Macbook Paper. It will actually be paper thin. In fact, it will just be a piece of paper with the words "Macbook" written on it.
Pricess start at 3,000 dollars for a color copy, and 2,500 for black and white. It says it contains all new features such as the ability to fold and be easily recycled.
I laughed so hard at this. I love you, Adami :lol
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Here's hoping for the Iwheel.
The Onion?
The Inion.
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2/5. Nice try.
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2/5. Nice try.
Itry.
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iTry
FTFY.
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https://www.crunchgear.com/2010/11/15/will-apple-kill-the-mp3-tomorrow/
Seems plausible...
So much stupid in that article, I don't even know where to begin.
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https://www.crunchgear.com/2010/11/15/will-apple-kill-the-mp3-tomorrow/
Seems plausible...
Killing the mp3? Nah. Sometimes you don't have access to the Internet. You have your music. You have accumulated it for years. What are you going to do now, delete it and start clicking again song for song until you find something you like and build a humongous playlist like you would normally do if you open Winamp and press the shuffle button? I don't think so.
Apple may unveil that, but it won't work!
Particularly when you can get apps that do that for phones anyway :/
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Also they'd probably charge you a monthly fee for utilizing those music files.
You know...there's a service in Europe that is called Spotify that does the exact thing that the article talks about. A streaming service. It's free with commercials but can be upgraded to get rid of the commercials and get access to high quality streaming. You pay per month and get access to a HUUUUGE library of music.
It's actually a REALLY big success over here in Europe, particalry here in Sweden. I believe Apple could actually go into that market and take over it completetly. And I for one would gladly end my Spotify subscription and switch to ITunes if that were the case.
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DAMN IT! It was only about the Beatles being avaliable on iTunes now. :lol
I understand it's a big deal as they have NEVER been on any digital service whatsoever before. But I was hoping for something bigger... :yeahright
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The Beatles are available for download now
Legally
That's some huge change right now
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And that is: :yawn:
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Yeah, I'm never going to forget this day. It was actually more important than any other day in my life.
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Well... ok I guess.
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I would definitely pay a monthly few for access to that library. I already pay 9 bucks a month for Bear Share, which is the exact same thing, just on a PC.
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That's it? Seriously? Whatever.
I'm sure streaming will be in iTunes someday soon. Until then, I'm happy using other services.
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That's it? Seriously? Whatever.
Apple's been over hyping a lot of things lately. O well.
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Man, I thought it would be a HUGE thing. Like Apple changing their font or something.
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Man, I thought it would be a HUGE thing. Like Apple changing their font or something.
Steve Jobs actually has an intrest in typography, no joke.
And I mean on one hand, it was only one ad on their website for one day, but their marketing (which is obviously great considering how much of the ehh products they sell) could be getting a little too 'boy who cired wolf.'
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I'm glad we've moved past bashing anything Apple does and onto bashing things that Apple might ever do.
Doesn't Apple realize that noone wants a record playing toaster? The vinyl is just going to melt. What a fucking moron Jobs is for hypothetically maybe also thinking of a ridiculous idea I had!
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u mad
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I'm glad we've moved past bashing anything Apple does and onto bashing things that Apple might ever do.
Doesn't Apple realize that noone wants a record playing toaster? The vinyl is just going to melt. What a fucking moron Jobs is for hypothetically maybe also thinking of a ridiculous idea I had!
Scurvy Will Not Surprise Me Today
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I'm glad we've moved past bashing anything Apple does and onto bashing things that Apple might ever do.
Doesn't Apple realize that noone wants a record playing toaster? The vinyl is just going to melt. What a fucking moron Jobs is for hypothetically maybe also thinking of a ridiculous idea I had!
Wait, steve hopes is really hypothetically maybe also thinking of a record player toaster?
God Steve Jobs is such a douche!
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Well, at least people on Facebook enjoy having The Beatles on iTunes.
Me? I couldn't care less.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11763650
Ringo Starr added: "I'm particularly glad to no longer be asked when the Beatles are coming to iTunes."
:lol
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WIN!
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I wonder what they'll do when they get AC/DC?
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https://www.engadget.com/2010/12/07/ipad-2-begins-shipping-from-foxconn-in-february/
iPad 2 begins shipping from Foxconn in February for April launch?
The source is DigiTimes so take this rumor for what you will. Nevertheless, the Taiwanese tattle house is citing sources at local component makers claiming that Foxconn has been notified that it must ship Apple's "iPad 2" within the next 100 days or as early as the end of February. DigiTimes says that Apple's plan to start mass production in January had to be pushed because of ongoing firmware testing. Note that this doesn't mean that the second generation iPad will ship to consumers in February since Apple would be stockpiling units ahead of a global launch in April, according to DigiTimes. The original iPad was announced in January and began US shipments in April before starting its relentless global march in May.
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iPad 2, Now With Facetime™. We've Revolutionized Everything. Again.
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I still don't understand how the hell iPad even sold in the first place. It had all the markings of a pointless product yet still flew off the shelves.
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Because people will buy Apple products regardless of what they do.
I post, once again, this comic:
(https://www.machoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/foxtrot-iphone-4gv.png)
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also this one: :lol
(https://www.appleiphoneschool.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2010-03-21-75f89edd.gif)
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Nobody bought it for a logical reason.
Sure.
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https://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/the-apple-ipad/8#c25022778
Looks like shit, and the name is lolworthy.
Take the iPhone, make it 5 times bigger, and there you have it. The iTampon.
I hope the iPad fails :P
Looking this from a year ago, boy if we were wrong thinking it was going to fail. Dammit!
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https://www.cracked.com/article_19003_apple-hype-vs.-reality-5Bchart5D.html
(https://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/randall/hype1.jpg)
(https://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/randall/hype2.jpg)
(https://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/randall/hype3.jpg)
(https://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/randall/hype4.jpg)
(https://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/randall/hype5.jpg)
(https://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/randall/hype6.jpg)
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Well logic would dictate that it should've failed. Apple essentially just released a completely useless product and millions of people ate it up while being completely clueless about what it was supposed to do. The fact that it is selling so well just goes to show how stupid consumers as a whole are.
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It's not that bad of a product, actually. Granted, I didn't buy the first one but played with my brother's, but after months passed I could tell the utility of this product. Why I didn't buy other tablets that were superior before? Marketing, I suppose. Apple knows how to sell their products, and makes you see that you can change your .
When they announce the iPad 2 I think that this time I will consider buying this one. Also, thanks that my BlackBerry is just not working good -and in six months I can have an upgrade- I will consider the iPhone 5 as well.
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Why I didn't buy other tablets that were superior before? Marketing, I suppose. Apple knows how to sell their products, and makes you see that you can change your .
I don't want to always be the Apple defender here, but whatever. What are these magical other tablets that are so much better than the iPad? The only example I've ever seen cited is the HP tablet that doesn't exist.
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The problem with the ipad isn't that it's useless, it's that it's insanely overpriced for what it is, and that's actually an important difference; people overpay for an otherwise useful product all the time.
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Why I didn't buy other tablets that were superior before? Marketing, I suppose. Apple knows how to sell their products, and makes you see that you can change your .
I don't want to always be the Apple defender here, but whatever. What are these magical other tablets that are so much better than the iPad? The only example I've ever seen cited is the HP tablet that doesn't exist.
Right, I think there are some people who overly criticize them as much as there are people who overly praise them. They are genius marketers, nobody stands inline overnight to buy five of any new product that Dell makes. How is that something Apple should be blamed for?
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Why I didn't buy other tablets that were superior before? Marketing, I suppose. Apple knows how to sell their products, and makes you see that you can change your .
I don't want to always be the Apple defender here, but whatever. What are these magical other tablets that are so much better than the iPad? The only example I've ever seen cited is the HP tablet that doesn't exist.
Right, I think there are some people who overly criticize them as much as there are people who overly praise them. They are genius marketers, nobody stands inline overnight to buy five of any new product that Dell makes. How is that something Apple should be blamed for?
I don't consider being able to sell people shit for exorbitant prices a good thing.
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Plus while every product has their fair share of snobs the Apple ones are seemingly more numerous and the least knowledgeable of all partially stemming from a need to justify spending so much for whatever Apple product they have. I have a friend that loves to brag about how rock solid his MacBook and Mac Pro are yet I have to explain stuff like combining PDF files in Adobe and where certain features of Photoshop like hue/saturation are to him, stuff it should take the average computer literate person 30 seconds to find/do.
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Why I didn't buy other tablets that were superior before? Marketing, I suppose. Apple knows how to sell their products, and makes you see that you can change your .
I don't want to always be the Apple defender here, but whatever. What are these magical other tablets that are so much better than the iPad? The only example I've ever seen cited is the HP tablet that doesn't exist.
I think I was trying to go with the "Apple at least takes chances in mass producing products that have been tried before by other people -or at least designed- and making it a success". I agree with Sigz that everything they sell are overpriced.
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Why I didn't buy other tablets that were superior before? Marketing, I suppose. Apple knows how to sell their products, and makes you see that you can change your .
I don't want to always be the Apple defender here, but whatever. What are these magical other tablets that are so much better than the iPad? The only example I've ever seen cited is the HP tablet that doesn't exist.
Don't count Toshiba out just yet.
https://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Toshiba-Tablet-Runs-Android-30-to-Challenge-Apple-iPad-380416/
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(https://www.9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Apple-MArch-2-invite.jpg)
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So that's when they'll announce the "revolutionary, new" iPad 2.
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Dammit, cracked iPhone screen.
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So that's when they'll announce the "revolutionary, new" iPad 2.
Yup, pretty much.
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So that's when they'll announce the "revolutionary, new" iPad 2.
Yup, pretty much.
::)
That shit's getting old. Apple never revolutionizes anything
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*apple sucks comment*
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So that's when they'll announce the "revolutionary, new" iPad 2.
Yup, pretty much.
::)
That shit's getting old. Apple never revolutionizes anything
Hence why I put it in quotes.
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Yeah before the iPad there was no tablet market so yeah the kind of did revolutionize it. Before iPhone a smartphone was a blackberry and apps as we know them weren't heard of. Now every phone that comes out is trying to be like or supass the iPhone so I can you could that was revolutionary too. Before the iPod no one knew or cared about mp3 players. Now everyone uses them. And let's not forget about 1984 and the Macintosh an how that changed the ray personal computing was looked at.
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Yeah before the iPad there was no tablet market so yeah the kind of did revolutionize it. Before iPhone a smartphone was a blackberry and apps as we know them weren't heard of. Now every phone that comes out is trying to be like or supass the iPhone so I can you could that was revolutionary too. Before the iPod no one knew or cared about mp3 players. Now everyone uses them. And let's not forget about 1984 and the Macintosh an how that changed the ray personal computing was looked at.
Oh please. Tablets have been around for a decade, MP3 players had been around way before the ipod, and the blackberry was widely popular before the iphone. Apple's success doesn't come from making new technology, it comes from being able to expertly package and sell existing tech.
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Not to mention convincing people they need their shit.
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Yeah before the iPad there was no tablet market so yeah the kind of did revolutionize it. Before iPhone a smartphone was a blackberry and apps as we know them weren't heard of. Now every phone that comes out is trying to be like or supass the iPhone so I can you could that was revolutionary too. Before the iPod no one knew or cared about mp3 players. Now everyone uses them. And let's not forget about 1984 and the Macintosh an how that changed the ray personal computing was looked at.
Oh please. Tablets have been around for a decade, MP3 players had been around way before the ipod, and the blackberry was widely popular before the iphone. Apple's success doesn't come from making new technology, it comes from being able to expertly package and sell existing tech.
just because they were around doesn't mean they were any good and it doesn't mean there was a market for them. Now companies are falling all over themselves to make ipad competitors. Plus the user interface is what revolutionizes them. No one seems to get it until they do it and then people just copy and try to do better. That's what revolutionizing is.
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So you're saying the iOS is good?
You're the first person I've heard say that.
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i don't even know how to respond to that. Put it this way i'm getting my degree to work so i can develop for OSX and iOS. It's my goal to work for Apple. Every place else would be a fallback plan. But i need a degree in CS and need to master objective C. So i'm working towards it. Does that answer you iOs question?
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There will be a market for anything apple brings out merely because its apple. All the tech apple has brought out is quite mature, they just make it shiny enough that the average joe thinks he needs one.
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Not to mention convincing people they need their shit.
I remember how, before the iPad was announced, some guy said that he didn't know what exactly it would be, but he'd be getting four of them for his family.
WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT WAS.
That's some brainwashing right there
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I still don't think anyone knows what the iPad is.
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I still don't think anyone knows what the iPad is.
A 7 inch iPod Touch?
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New Mac Book Pros too.
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Yeah before the iPad there was no tablet market so yeah the kind of did revolutionize it. Before iPhone a smartphone was a blackberry and apps as we know them weren't heard of. Now every phone that comes out is trying to be like or supass the iPhone so I can you could that was revolutionary too. Before the iPod no one knew or cared about mp3 players. Now everyone uses them. And let's not forget about 1984 and the Macintosh an how that changed the ray personal computing was looked at.
Oh please. Tablets have been around for a decade, MP3 players had been around way before the ipod, and the blackberry was widely popular before the iphone. Apple's success doesn't come from making new technology, it comes from being able to expertly package and sell existing tech.
That's right, which in turn not only has made them the leader (by a very wide margin) in both the tablet and mp3 player markets, but has basically brought those markets into the mainstream ('revolutionizing' them in a way). They didn't invent the tablet or mp3 player, but until they released theirs nobody knew what the hell they were.
Companies said, "Buy our 2GB mp3 player! It's only $199!" If you told most people that today they wouldn't know what you mean, let alone ten years ago. Apple came out a year later and said, "1000 songs in you pocket." That sounds cool enough that people don't give a fuck how much it is. I give Apple a lot of credit for pulling that stuff off, they have more dedicated fans than most companies, they're about mentality not the best product out there.
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Companies said, "Buy our 2GB mp3 player! It's only $199!" If you told most people that today they wouldn't know what you mean, let alone ten years ago. Apple came out a year later and said, "1000 songs in you pocket." That sounds cool enough that people don't give a fuck how much it is. I give Apple a lot of credit for pulling that stuff off, they have more dedicated fans than most companies, they're about mentality not the best product out there.
And this is exactly why I don't respect them.
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New Mac Book Pros too.
Yeah, I thought this was bumped for this news.
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Companies said, "Buy our 2GB mp3 player! It's only $199!" If you told most people that today they wouldn't know what you mean, let alone ten years ago. Apple came out a year later and said, "1000 songs in you pocket." That sounds cool enough that people don't give a fuck how much it is. I give Apple a lot of credit for pulling that stuff off, they have more dedicated fans than most companies, they're about mentality not the best product out there.
And this is exactly why I don't respect them.
Like them or not they do know how to market a product. I'm trying to find that TED Talk where this guy explained the idea behind the success of their marketing. He basically explained how to do it yourself... yet Apple seems the only guys still doing it. Weird.
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I like the ipad. I'm in the market for one. I have been holding out for months now waiting for the ipad2 announcememnt. I really would like a front facing camera. I don't want one to use like a computer. I just want something that is useful while on campus. If I need to do research or type up a lenghtly paper, I have the computer lab for that. If I'm just chilling in the library and want a lightweight, easy to use web browser, the ipad is perfect. It has a nice display, I can listen to all my music, and play a quick mini game here and there if I wish. A friend of mine has replaced all her notebooks with hers. She takes all her notes on it, and can keep all the power point slides at her fingertips as well. I use my ipod touch all the time and wish I had a bigger version. I don't even care if it is the exact same thing, it's worth it for the size. At night when I just laying out on my bed, using a laptop is a major pain in the ass, an ipad would be perfect. (inb4 the masturbation joke)
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All for the price of a comparable laptop (which is more high functioning, I believe)
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Right, but I already have a lap top, and it can be a pain in the ass. I hate lugging it around campus.
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Now we are "lugging" laptops? Laptops are small and hardly need to be lugged.
The iPad makes you pay a lot for not much in return. I'll take a powerful pc laptop at half the cost any day.
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Now we are "lugging" laptops? Laptops are small and hardly need to be lugged.
My laptop has a 17.4 inch screen, full keyboard, and weighs like 9 pounds.
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No, Chino. The iPad is useless and you're an idiot for wanting one.
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It's not useless, just absurdly overpriced for what it is.
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It's not useless, just absurdly overpriced for what it is.
Bingo, which could be said for every single apple product out there.
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It's not useless, just absurdly overpriced for what it is.
Bingo, which could be said for every single apple product out there.
Sad, but true.
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Companies said, "Buy our 2GB mp3 player! It's only $199!" If you told most people that today they wouldn't know what you mean, let alone ten years ago. Apple came out a year later and said, "1000 songs in you pocket." That sounds cool enough that people don't give a fuck how much it is. I give Apple a lot of credit for pulling that stuff off, they have more dedicated fans than most companies, they're about mentality not the best product out there.
And this is exactly why I don't respect them.
Like them or not they do know how to market a product. I'm trying to find that TED Talk where this guy explained the idea behind the success of their marketing. He basically explained how to do it yourself... yet Apple seems the only guys still doing it. Weird.
His name is Simon Sinek, his book Start With Why is basically: "This is why Apple makes so much money." And yet, you're right, nobody else does it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0HIF3SfI4
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That was a great video!
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Now we are "lugging" laptops? Laptops are small and hardly need to be lugged.
My laptop has a 17.4 inch screen, full keyboard, and weighs like 9 pounds.
It doesn't HAVE to be that big, really. For example, the 13-inch Macbook pro is highly mobile. When the new pros hit the shelves, they will be my top choice. The C2D processors on the current 13-inchers were a little disappointing, so I'm eager to see the new lineup.
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Sometimes I get tired of carrying my regular sized laptop around campus
and then I remember I have a penis
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Sometimes I get tired of carrying my regular sized laptop around campus
and then I remember I have a penis
pics
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Now we are "lugging" laptops? Laptops are small and hardly need to be lugged.
My laptop has a 17.4 inch screen, full keyboard, and weighs like 9 pounds.
It doesn't HAVE to be that big, really. For example, the 13-inch Macbook pro is highly mobile. When the new pros hit the shelves, they will be my top choice. The C2D processors on the current 13-inchers were a little disappointing, so I'm eager to see the new lineup.
I'm also in the market for a new one, but they're a little too pricy for me. Although that thunderbolt thing sounds cool - 10 gb/s is nuts.
https://mashable.com/2011/02/24/macbook-pros-thunderbolt/
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I have been reading up on the motorolla xoom... I am very interested.
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Sometimes I get tired of carrying my regular sized laptop around campus
and then I remember I have a penis
:rollin
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Now we are "lugging" laptops? Laptops are small and hardly need to be lugged.
My laptop has a 17.4 inch screen, full keyboard, and weighs like 9 pounds.
9 pounds is hardly anything then again I've actually heard people argue to the effect of "well that laptop is 4.5 pounds but this is 3.2 pounds, which is a bit easier to manage". It's one fucking pound. Deal with it.
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Now we are "lugging" laptops? Laptops are small and hardly need to be lugged.
My laptop has a 17.4 inch screen, full keyboard, and weighs like 9 pounds.
9 pounds is hardly anything then again I've actually heard people argue to the effect of "well that laptop is 4.5 pounds but this is 3.2 pounds, which is a bit easier to manage". It's one fucking pound. Deal with it.
But when its on your shoulder, and you already have a 30 pound back pack, and its a 20 minute walk across campus in 10 degree weather, every fucking ounce counts.
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Now we are "lugging" laptops? Laptops are small and hardly need to be lugged.
My laptop has a 17.4 inch screen, full keyboard, and weighs like 9 pounds.
9 pounds is hardly anything then again I've actually heard people argue to the effect of "well that laptop is 4.5 pounds but this is 3.2 pounds, which is a bit easier to manage". It's one fucking pound. Deal with it.
But when its on your shoulder, and you already have a 30 pound back pack, and its a 20 minute walk across campus in 10 degree weather, every fucking ounce counts.
Do you carry anvils with you?
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Ssst, he is just trying to justify the purchase of an iPad for himself.
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How do all these college students have iPads?? When I was in college, I could barely afford a meal at Taco Bell.
And also, I just took a pen and notepad to all my classes.
(https://itsallmaya.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/andy_rooney.jpg)
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lolandyrooney
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Oh well I guess I should have seen this thread first before posting in chat thread. I'm considering buying a macbook pro. I made a gateway laptop last 6 years until the motherboard crashed, I could probably make a macbook last a decade.
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Well, now that the macbook pros came out, I'm kinda disappointed. I had hoped for something else than "just" a processor upgrade, although the thunderbolt is a nice addition.
Oh well, now I could snatch a last generation pro with an ssd for pennies! :)
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Companies said, "Buy our 2GB mp3 player! It's only $199!" If you told most people that today they wouldn't know what you mean, let alone ten years ago. Apple came out a year later and said, "1000 songs in you pocket." That sounds cool enough that people don't give a fuck how much it is. I give Apple a lot of credit for pulling that stuff off, they have more dedicated fans than most companies, they're about mentality not the best product out there.
And this is exactly why I don't respect them.
Like them or not they do know how to market a product. I'm trying to find that TED Talk where this guy explained the idea behind the success of their marketing. He basically explained how to do it yourself... yet Apple seems the only guys still doing it. Weird.
His name is Simon Sinek, his book Start With Why is basically: "This is why Apple makes so much money." And yet, you're right, nobody else does it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0HIF3SfI4
Thank you. This is the one.
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So, what differences do you think it's going to have?
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in before "iPad 2 sucks"
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I'd assume it will have a camera (if not two), which was probably the most surprising omission from the originald (of course, it was probably left out solely so the next version could have it). Some kind of memory stick slot or USB drive would not go amiss, though I doubt it'll happen (esp. the USB drive) considering how much Apple loves their proprietary bullshit. Probably be a tad thinner and lighter as per usual, and I wouldn't be surprised if it had a smaller screen, considering how many of the newer tablets coming out are going a bit smaller. Steve Jobs has said that he thought small tablets were lame, but he also shit on ebooks before selling the ipad as a ereader.
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So, what differences do you think it's going to have?
I'm hoping for a front facing camera and a matt finished screen.
Where online can I stream the announcement?
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To me the biggest design flaw of tablets is their "offline size", i.e. the size they have when you don't use them. Once they introduce foldable tablets I will say "now we're talking!".
rumborak
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To me the biggest design flaw of tablets is their "offline size", i.e. the size they have when you don't use them. Once they introduce foldable tablets I will say "now we're talking!".
rumborak
So something like thise? Obviously larger and more sleek, but it would definitely need a split screen.
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/02/kyocera-echo-600-rm-eng.jpg)
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foldable tablet...yer back to a netbook.
Make up your mind.
lol
My mom wants to know if Apple has fixed the glare issues on the iPad 2.
Anyone?
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My mom wants to know if Apple has fixed the glare issues on the iPad 2.
Anyone?
We'll find out in about 40 minutes. I would be shocked if that problem wasn't adressed. Especially with Apple trying to compete with the kindle.
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How are they competing with the kindle? They're completely different things.
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I think the screen will be the same.
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How are they competing with the kindle? They're completely different things.
I understand that. But Apple markets itself as an E-reader (as well as many other things). The kindle has that market by balls and is having great success. If Apple wants even a fraction of that market, they are going to have to match the kindle.
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I cannot fathom why anyone would ever buy an ipad as an ereader.
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If you want an e-reader, as well as an ipad. Why would you buy both if the ipad can act as one?
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I don't get how people can write all their notes on this thing without worry of losing it all.
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I cannot fathom why anyone would ever buy an ipad as an ereader.
If solely for that, yes it is stupid.
I still dream for the dual screen LCD/e-Ink Pearl combo.
To me the biggest design flaw of tablets is their "offline size", i.e. the size they have when you don't use them. Once they introduce foldable tablets I will say "now we're talking!".
rumborak
If I'm not wrong, there was a an e-reader that was like that. And didn't Microsoft wanted to create that kind of tablet but the project failed hard?
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I don't get how people can write all their notes on this thing without worry of losing it all.
I don't see how it's any different than putting all your notes on a laptop...
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I don't get how people can write all their notes on this thing without worry of losing it all.
I don't see how it's any different than putting all your notes on a laptop...
actually it's probably more stable than having a regular hard drive. Less chance of failing.
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I'll ask again... Anyone know where I can watch this online?
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one of the tech blogs like engadget might have live video. At the very least there will be a liveblog.
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/live-from-apples-ipad-2-event/
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TY
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I await in anticipation everything changing again.
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/live-from-apples-ipad-2-event/
Wait, no video?
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Steve is there! NICE!
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https://live.twit.tv/
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I cannot fathom why anyone would ever buy an ipad as an ereader.
first photo of the presentation.
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/20110302-10040827--img4447.jpg)
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I cannot fathom why anyone would ever buy an ipad as an ereader.
first photo of the presentation.
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/20110302-10040827--img4447.jpg)
LOOOOOOOOL!
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15 MILLION ipads sold in 9 months.
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15 million sheep
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2008:
Amazon’s Kindle e-book reader will fail, Steve Jobs says, because Americans simply don’t read. From The New York Times:
“It doesn’t matter how good or bad the product is, the fact is that people don’t read anymore,” he said. “Forty percent of the people in the U.S. read one book or less last year. The whole conception is flawed at the top because people don’t read anymore.”
2011:
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/20110302-10040827--img4447.jpg)
Steve Jobs: A true visionary.
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"Doctors are using the iPad... and spending more time with patients. Also, the iPad has been performing brain surgery."
Now that is cool.
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I hope this speeds up. I have class in 20.
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"Doctors are using the iPad... and spending more time with patients. Also, the iPad has been performing brain surgery."
Now that is cool.
wat
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I don't buy it
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Dual Core and front/rear cameras!
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Hemorrhaging in the brain? There’s an app for that.
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"Doctors are using the iPad... and spending more time with patients. Also, the iPad has been performing brain surgery."
Now that is cool.
wat
fixed
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The white version looks dumb.
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thinner than iphone 4! sick
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I'm sold, my tax check will be spent on this.
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1080p HDMI out that charges ipad. Also 9X graphics performance.
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I'll certainly give their engineers credit where credit is due; those guys are damned good. But once again... what is it supposed to do?
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screw it, I'm skipping class.
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buying 1st second it's available.
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But once again... what is it supposed to do?
Everything.
Duh. :loser:
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That cover is actually really slick.
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That cover is actually really slick.
microfiber magnetic cleaning cover... spluge
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That cover is actually really slick.
microfiber magnetic cleaning cover... spluge
Damn, I thought it was going to be included.
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what is it supposed to do?
brain surgery
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That cover is actually really slick.
microfiber magnetic cleaning cover... spluge
Damn, I thought it was going to be included.
c'mon
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I'm waiting for the Flash announcement.
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That cover is actually really slick.
microfiber magnetic cleaning cover... spluge
Damn, I thought it was going to be included.
c'mon
Seriously, this is Apple we're talking about. You're lucky they include a charger.
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stream videos, photos, and music from computer to ipad. STREAM any app or web browser to apple TV! THAT IS FUCKING AWESOME.
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Can you skype on this thing, or is it only face time?
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Can you skype on this thing, or is it only face time?
there is a skype app already.
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Can you skype on this thing, or is it only face time?
there is a skype app already.
So I can skype with someone on a PC?
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Can you skype on this thing, or is it only face time?
there is a skype app already.
So I can skype with someone on a PC?
yep.
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Garage Band.
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yep that's is REALLY cool. 8 track recording and mixing with loops built in.
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guitar amps and effects built in. You can plug guitar and record into. Also has virtual instruments. Sustain pedal button! lol
uses accelorameter to determine dynamics. Crazy.
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Where can I read about this?
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That will definitely be a lot of fun.
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720p HD recording. Awesome for face time.
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virtual drum kits also. pretty cool.
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you can also mirror display in 1080p
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Where can I read about this?
https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/live-from-apples-ipad-2-event/?sort=newest&refresh=60
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In after "iPad 2 sucks".
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OMG
https://www.apple.com/ipad/features/#video-incoming-swap-video (https://www.apple.com/ipad/features/#video-incoming-swap-video)
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Garageband looks interesting.
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OMG
https://www.apple.com/ipad/features/#video-incoming-swap-video (https://www.apple.com/ipad/features/#video-incoming-swap-video)
??
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Am I missing something in that link? Apart from the AirPlay and AirPrint, weren't all those in the first iPad?
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watch the video for the new case. It's awesome.
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Am I missing something in that link? Apart from the AirPlay and AirPrint, weren't all those in the first iPad?
no.
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Am I missing something in that link? Apart from the AirPlay and AirPrint, weren't all those in the first iPad?
no.
So you couldn't multitask on the iPad?!?!
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watch the video for the new case. It's awesome.
That is awesome.
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That case looks fun. I can see kids playing more with it than with the iPad. :lol
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Am I missing something in that link? Apart from the AirPlay and AirPrint, weren't all those in the first iPad?
no.
So you couldn't multitask on the iPad?!?!
of course you could. but there are a lot of new things about it. Check out the ipad2 video on that look. It's really nice.
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A lot of hardware improvements that definitely bring it back up to competition with Honeycomb Tablets, especially while maintaining current prices. Motorola, Google, HP, etc. have their work cut out for them. They have the hardware specs to match, but unless they reduce prices, the average consumer is going to see "Apple" + "Lower Price". I'm bummed you need yet another proprietary adapter just to output HDMI though.
I also was hoping for a redesigned tablet UI, though I see the benefits of consistency across iOS devices.
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A lot of hardware improvements that definitely bring it back up to competition with Honeycomb Tablets, especially while maintaining current prices. Motorola, Google, HP, etc. have their work cut out for them. They have the hardware specs to match, but unless they reduce prices, the average consumer is going to see "Apple" + "Lower Price". I'm bummed you need yet another proprietary adapter just to output HDMI though.
I also was hoping for a redesigned tablet UI, though I see the benefits of consistency across iOS devices.
That is a good point. Apple is no where near the most expensive in this category... one of the first times. The Motorolla xoom is like $800 or something like that.
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the rumor is that iOs5 has a LOT of changes. But right now there are over 65k ipad exclusive apps. On top of the zillions of iphone apps. Makes sense to ride ios4 out for a while before updating again then all the developers have to update. I would guess iOS 5 will debut with the iPHone 5. Maybe come out with it or in the fall.
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the rumor is that iOs5 has a LOT of changes. But right now there are over 65k ipad exclusive apps. On top of the zillions of iphone apps. Makes sense to ride ios4 out for a while before updating again then all the developers have to update. I would guess iOS 5 will debut with the iPHone 5. Maybe come out with it or in the fall.
I was reading last week that iOs5 got pushed back to September.
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i think the coolest thing about all of this to me is the ability to stream any app or website to apple tv from any iOs device or mac. Essentially adding unlimited apps to the 99 dollar apple tv.
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the rumor is that iOs5 has a LOT of changes. But right now there are over 65k ipad exclusive apps. On top of the zillions of iphone apps. Makes sense to ride ios4 out for a while before updating again then all the developers have to update. I would guess iOS 5 will debut with the iPHone 5. Maybe come out with it or in the fall.
I was reading last week that iOs5 got pushed back to September.
makes sense. probably will preview at iphone 5 event in june.
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I hope iOS 5 handles notifications more like Android.
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notification system is apparently being redone completely. They hired a new team for that a while back.
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your apple fanboyism is pretty funny
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notification system is apparently being redone completely. They hired a new team for that a while back.
Good.
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your apple fanboyism is pretty funny
ok. Because i am working towards working for the company and i have a lot of knowledge about it. I don't see what's funny about that.
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your apple fanboyism is pretty funny
ok. Because i am working towards working for the company and i have a lot of knowledge about it. I don't see what's funny about that.
That cover is actually really slick.
microfiber magnetic cleaning cover... spluge
Yeah. So, this would be why I think it's funny
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your apple fanboyism is pretty funny
ok. Because i am working towards working for the company and i have a lot of knowledge about it. I don't see what's funny about that.
That cover is actually really slick.
microfiber magnetic cleaning cover... spluge
Yeah. So, this would be why I think it's funny
ok but that is awesome.
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notification system is apparently being redone completely. They hired a new team for that a while back.
Thank God.
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It looks a lot better than the original iPad. But does it have flash?!
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It looks a lot better than the original iPad. But does it have flash?!
Apple with Adobe, you be crazy son!
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I own the Xoom, and prefer it over the iPad (Yes, I've used one extensively, and I also proudly own an iTouch 4G and formerly owned an iPhone 2G). The notification system is much better, the UI is easy to use and snappy. Granted, the Android Market is not as large, but numbers aren't everything. After using both app stores, there's not a noticeable difference in app availability or quality. The one area Android Market can improve, as shown on the slide at today's keynote, is the tablet specific apps. But Apple has had a year to get to 65,000, Android will move up quickly.
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The new iPad may look pretty slick, but I don't see myself buying one. I have a laptop and a good mobile phone (soon). Despite of what this iPad can do, I can do most of the things that I would use with what I already have.
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The new iPad may look pretty slick, but I don't see myself buying one. I have a laptop and a good mobile phone (soon). Despite of what this iPad can do, I can do most of the things that I would use with what I already have.
Yeah, and even then I couldn't see myself using what else it does anyway.
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Always like seeing new technology but I'm trying to wrap my mind around why people are ready to sell their first born to buy this on day 1?
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Always like seeing new technology but I'm trying to wrap my mind around why people are ready to sell their first born to buy this on day 1?
Because Apple
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Always like seeing new technology but I'm trying to wrap my mind around why people are ready to sell their first born to buy this on day 1?
Because Apple places mentality above its products. Scroll up to that Simon Sinek video.
iPad 2 looks like they said, "We put everything you bitched the iPad didn't have into it, the battery life is the same, the price is the same. It's faster, lighter, thinner. Even gave it HDMI." And people are reacting like, "Not gonna say what else I wish it had, but I'm not impressed."
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Always like seeing new technology but I'm trying to wrap my mind around why people are ready to sell their first born to buy this on day 1?
Because Apple
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I think I've come to the conclusion I'd actually like apple if their marketing department didn't exist.
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If you want an e-reader, as well as an ipad. Why would you buy both if the ipad can act as one?
Because an e-reader is like looking at a book, while an iPad is like looking at a computer screen. One is much worse for your eyes than the other.
Also, I really don't see how we can possibly need a new iPad already, aside from Apple realising how useless the first one is and so they're now trying to upgrade it. :lol
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If you want an e-reader, as well as an ipad. Why would you buy both if the ipad can act as one?
Because an e-reader is like looking at a book, while an iPad is like looking at a computer screen. One is much worse for your eyes than the other.
Also, I really don't see how we can possibly need a new iPad already, aside from Apple realising how useless the first one is and so they're now trying to upgrade it. :lol
And they know people will buy it no matter what. I mean, the iPad was a prime example of that in the first place
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I think I've come to the conclusion I'd actually like apple if their marketing department didn't exist.
Their marketing department starts with Steven Jobs, and without him Apple doesn't exist. I've probably taken this further than necessary, but my head hurts.
As for the e-reader thing, ariich is right it's all in the screen. Plus Kindles will be free for the holiday season anyway, so they've gone into an entirely different direction than tablets: https://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2011/02/free_kindle_thi.php
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Not that I really care but was this presentation more hardware or software based?
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Just popping in to say that I consider myself a moderate Apple fanboy, and I have no desire to buy an iPad. I don't know when I'd ever use it, or what I'd use it for.
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buying day 1. and i don't own the iPad 1. I want something i can take to school and do all my school work on and everything else pretty much but i don't want to take my 2000 dollar mbpro. Basically it's going to be a less expensive computer for me. Going to be awesome though with AppleTv being apple to stream apps and websites.
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does it work with that small ass wireless keyboard apple makes?
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When I have the money I'll get one. Mostly for the musical applications. :)
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does it work with that small ass wireless keyboard apple makes?
yep any bluetooth keyboard.
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buying day 1. and i don't own the iPad 1. I want something i can take to school and do all my school work on and everything else pretty much but i don't want to take my 2000 dollar mbpro. Basically it's going to be a less expensive computer for me.
Wtf? I don't know about the US, but here you can get a laptop more powerful than an iPad for considerably less. (well, certainly with the current iPad, don't know much about the specs for the second one).
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(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/samsung-misquote-2011-03-02.jpg)
https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-steve-jobs-misquotes-samsung-asks-what-you/
Hey, remember all the fun last month when Samsung's Lee Young-hee said that Galaxy Tab sales were "quite smooth" but everyone heard "quite small?" Yeah, well, Steve Jobs doesn't. Before unveiling the iPad 2 today the man in black and denim listed that early misquote -- which was widely and officially corrected -- as evidence to prove that the iPad's competition was floundering. Admittedly that isn't far from the truth, but there's no need to go putting words in other executives' mouths to make a point.
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/steve-jobs-wham.jpg)
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What OS does Galaxy use?
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buying day 1. and i don't own the iPad 1. I want something i can take to school and do all my school work on and everything else pretty much but i don't want to take my 2000 dollar mbpro. Basically it's going to be a less expensive computer for me.
Wtf? I don't know about the US, but here you can get a laptop more powerful than an iPad for considerably less. (well, certainly with the current iPad, don't know much about the specs for the second one).
Oh, it's the same in the US too.
But he wants to waste money on it.
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I think I've come to the conclusion I'd actually like apple if their marketing department didn't exist.
Are you kidding? They have one of the most brilliant marketing departments in the world because they manage to convince people to dramatically overspend on products they could get from other companies for considerably cheaper. If their marketing department didn't exist, Apple wouldn't exist.
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:omg: It comes in Jiz White!! :omg:
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buying day 1. and i don't own the iPad 1. I want something i can take to school and do all my school work on and everything else pretty much but i don't want to take my 2000 dollar mbpro. Basically it's going to be a less expensive computer for me.
Wtf? I don't know about the US, but here you can get a laptop more powerful than an iPad for considerably less. (well, certainly with the current iPad, don't know much about the specs for the second one).
Yeah, the UK has some the worst (most expensive) iPad prices out there but you're still right.
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buying day 1. and i don't own the iPad 1. I want something i can take to school and do all my school work on and everything else pretty much but i don't want to take my 2000 dollar mbpro. Basically it's going to be a less expensive computer for me.
Wtf? I don't know about the US, but here you can get a laptop more powerful than an iPad for considerably less. (well, certainly with the current iPad, don't know much about the specs for the second one).
It's true here too, but he won't buy any computer if it doesn't have the Apple logo on it.
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I think I've come to the conclusion I'd actually like apple if their marketing department didn't exist.
Are you kidding? They have one of the most brilliant marketing departments in the world because they manage to convince people to dramatically overspend on products they could get from other companies for considerably cheaper. If their marketing department didn't exist, Apple wouldn't exist.
The huge problem with Apple's marketing team is that they encourage people to buy their products for the dumbest reasons. From a business standpoint, yes, it's goddamn brilliant but you're also creating an army of people who don't know what the hell they're talking about, hence the stereotypes of the traditional Apple users. I mean look at the "new" MacBook Air commercial that aired many months ago. The first and only thing they talked about was the look of the device. The first iPad commercials were 100% about the aesthetics of the device. The whole "Mac vs PC" wasn't geared towards their product, it was geared towards grossly exaggerating things they deemed flaws in Windows which their fans happily lapped up and continue to parrot back to this day like a bunch of fucking morons.
I hate to harp on the stereotype of the traditional Apple user but most really are dumb, at least when it comes to computers. I have to constantly explain and point out things to my friend like "where's the hue feature in Photoshop?" and "how do I convert music files from one type to another?". They're bred to not use their brains and figure stuff out on their own.
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What OS does Galaxy use?
Android.
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Never used. Is it more computer-like than iOS?
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Not particularly, no.
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keynote from today
https://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1103pijanbdvaaj/event/index.html (https://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1103pijanbdvaaj/event/index.html)
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keynote from today
https://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1103pijanbdvaaj/event/index.html (https://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1103pijanbdvaaj/event/index.html)
Streaming video requires Safari 4 or 5 on Mac OS X Snow Leopard or Safari on iOS 3 or later.
NO, THANKS!
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buying day 1. and i don't own the iPad 1. I want something i can take to school and do all my school work on and everything else pretty much but i don't want to take my 2000 dollar mbpro. Basically it's going to be a less expensive computer for me.
Wtf? I don't know about the US, but here you can get a laptop more powerful than an iPad for considerably less. (well, certainly with the current iPad, don't know much about the specs for the second one).
i don't want another laptop i already have one.
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keynote from today
https://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1103pijanbdvaaj/event/index.html (https://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1103pijanbdvaaj/event/index.html)
Streaming video requires Safari 4 or 5 on Mac OS X Snow Leopard or Safari on iOS 3 or later.
NO, THANKS!
oh didnt know that. lol
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buying day 1. and i don't own the iPad 1. I want something i can take to school and do all my school work on and everything else pretty much but i don't want to take my 2000 dollar mbpro. Basically it's going to be a less expensive computer for me.
Wtf? I don't know about the US, but here you can get a laptop more powerful than an iPad for considerably less. (well, certainly with the current iPad, don't know much about the specs for the second one).
i don't want another laptop i already have one.
Then why would you need an iPad? ???
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buying day 1. and i don't own the iPad 1. I want something i can take to school and do all my school work on and everything else pretty much but i don't want to take my 2000 dollar mbpro. Basically it's going to be a less expensive computer for me.
Wtf? I don't know about the US, but here you can get a laptop more powerful than an iPad for considerably less. (well, certainly with the current iPad, don't know much about the specs for the second one).
i don't want another laptop i already have one.
Then why would you need an iPad? ???
"Less expensive computer"
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buying day 1. and i don't own the iPad 1. I want something i can take to school and do all my school work on and everything else pretty much but i don't want to take my 2000 dollar mbpro. Basically it's going to be a less expensive computer for me.
Wtf? I don't know about the US, but here you can get a laptop more powerful than an iPad for considerably less. (well, certainly with the current iPad, don't know much about the specs for the second one).
i don't want another laptop i already have one.
Then why would you need an iPad? ???
because i want something thin enough to carry around with no weight. Big enough to write code on and surf the web and do homework. Big enough to watch video on. And something that runs MacOSx or iOS which iPad does all of these things at an affordable price. Plus it will be cool to be able to stream apps and websites from it to my appletv.
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i have my laptop if i need to do something with real power. but i'll probably end up using the iPad more than the laptop.
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Sorry but of all the things you could have said about the iPad, you choose "writing code"? Writing code on the iPad must be the worst thing ever. I find it bad enough on netbooks.
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Sorry but of all the things you could have said about the iPad, you choose "writing code"? Writing code on the iPad must be the worst thing ever. I find it bad enough on netbooks.
why have you seen how thin and small the apple blue tooth keyboard is? going to use that with the ipad to write code on in class.
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Because the screen is tiny?
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the iPad screen is not tiny.
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neither is any other tablet of that size. Anything smaller than that then yeah, it wouldn't be good. Like the galaxy or some other 7 inch tablet.
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It is for writing code. Particularly when you have to put on a desk and then put a keyboard in front of it (therefore pushing it further away from you). It would only be easy if you hunched over the bloody thing.
I'm used to writing code on 2 24" screens. The programming environment on the left, reference guide of some sort on the right.
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It is for writing code. Particularly when you have to put on a desk and then put a keyboard in front of it (therefore pushing it further away from you). It would only be easy if you hunched over the bloody thing.
I'm used to writing code on 2 24" screens. The programming environment on the left, reference guide of some sort on the right.
honestly if i want to write serious code at home i'll use my laptop. But this just for getting some work done at school during lab time. Also doing other homework with it too. I just don't want to keep bringing my laptop because i depend on it to make money. I dj on the weekends and if i lost it, it got stolen, or broke i would be fucked so i've been wanting to get an ipad and now that this one is out it works for me. I'm not telling you to buy one! lol
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Why don't you just go to a computer lab? That's what I do.
If you need to take files with you just use a USB stick or what ever.
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i HATE the computers and software in the computer lab. No linux, no mac os = no me. Plus he doesn't want us to use an IDE so i might as well do it on the ipad because it's basically the same thing. I can write the code with syntax highlighting and compile it on the ipad but there is no Java IDE. So if it can't use an IDE at school then fuck those computers.
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Why don't you just go to a computer lab? That's what I do.
If you need to take files with you just use a USB stick or what ever.
btw what do you do?
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Why don't you just go to a computer lab? That's what I do.
If you need to take files with you just use a USB stick or what ever.
btw what do you do?
Computer science, and computer engineer here.
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awesome are you guys individual developers or do you work for a company?
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I'm still doing my degree (in my fourth year...one to go).
Well, don't be too jealous but my university has 2 Mac labs :P
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I'm still doing my degree (in my fourth year...one to go).
Well, don't be too jealous but my university has 2 Mac labs :P
OMG i go to a county college for now until i get my transfer degree. They have Bullshit. They have macs but in the graphic arts department where my wife goes.
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Haha. Well, we have to have them for stuff like the "Programming for iPhone" module.
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Haha. Well, we have to have them for stuff like the "Programming for iPhone" module.
i asked the head of the department about OBJ c and he said they aren't offering it. I'm taking an online course over the summer. I have a pretty good idea that i think can make some money on the app store i want to working on!
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by the way the people who are waiting for iOS 5 for a notification system remake should check out this for now...
https://www.redmondpie.com/mobilenotifier-how-ios-5-notifications-should-work-jailbreak-tweak/ (https://www.redmondpie.com/mobilenotifier-how-ios-5-notifications-should-work-jailbreak-tweak/)
Simply add https://phajas.xen.prgmr.com/repo repository in Cydia to install MobileNotifier on your iPhone.
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Just saw this on Engadget:
I think Steve Jobs is thinner than the new iPad...
:lol
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I'm still doing my degree (in my fourth year...one to go).
Same here.
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You have a 5 year course as well?
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You have a 5 year course as well?
It's gonna become a 5-6 year, I'm a little behind because the last 2 semesters I wasn't able to take 4-5 classes.
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Just saw this on Engadget:
I think Steve Jobs is thinner than the new iPad...
:lol
That's evil :lol
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Just to be clear, that was a comment one of the users made.
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As someone whose offended by an extremely few number of things, that's awfully close to the line. Yeah it's the internet and I know pretty much everyone knows someone whose had cancer (which I presume his health problems are related to) but I don't think that's something to make fun of. :tdwn
Apparently the attention to detail in Garage Band is pretty crazy... still time for JR to squeeze it into the new album.
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lol
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The huge problem with Apple's marketing team is that they encourage people to buy their products for the dumbest reasons. From a business standpoint, yes, it's goddamn brilliant but you're also creating an army of people who don't know what the hell they're talking about, hence the stereotypes of the traditional Apple users. I mean look at the "new" MacBook Air commercial that aired many months ago. The first and only thing they talked about was the look of the device. The first iPad commercials were 100% about the aesthetics of the device. The whole "Mac vs PC" wasn't geared towards their product, it was geared towards grossly exaggerating things they deemed flaws in Windows which their fans happily lapped up and continue to parrot back to this day like a bunch of fucking morons.
They encourage people to buy their products almost exclusively for aesthetics because that's almost all that a lot of Apple products have going for them. But you're right, they're goddamned brilliant for being able to identify that and market it accordingly.
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The huge problem with Apple's marketing team is that they encourage people to buy their products for the dumbest reasons. From a business standpoint, yes, it's goddamn brilliant but you're also creating an army of people who don't know what the hell they're talking about, hence the stereotypes of the traditional Apple users. I mean look at the "new" MacBook Air commercial that aired many months ago. The first and only thing they talked about was the look of the device. The first iPad commercials were 100% about the aesthetics of the device. The whole "Mac vs PC" wasn't geared towards their product, it was geared towards grossly exaggerating things they deemed flaws in Windows which their fans happily lapped up and continue to parrot back to this day like a bunch of fucking morons.
They encourage people to buy their products almost exclusively for aesthetics because that's almost all that a lot of Apple products have going for them. But you're right, they're goddamned brilliant for being able to identify that and market it accordingly.
yeah that's all they have going for them. I guess that's why i've been Dj'ing with this particular laptop for over 2 years without a single hiccup or crash or why it has never crashed period. There are about a billion other things i could put out that the aesthetics must be responsible for.
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here is a little hands on vid...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMNi9PUVTUQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMNi9PUVTUQ)
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The huge problem with Apple's marketing team is that they encourage people to buy their products for the dumbest reasons. From a business standpoint, yes, it's goddamn brilliant but you're also creating an army of people who don't know what the hell they're talking about, hence the stereotypes of the traditional Apple users. I mean look at the "new" MacBook Air commercial that aired many months ago. The first and only thing they talked about was the look of the device. The first iPad commercials were 100% about the aesthetics of the device. The whole "Mac vs PC" wasn't geared towards their product, it was geared towards grossly exaggerating things they deemed flaws in Windows which their fans happily lapped up and continue to parrot back to this day like a bunch of fucking morons.
They encourage people to buy their products almost exclusively for aesthetics because that's almost all that a lot of Apple products have going for them. But you're right, they're goddamned brilliant for being able to identify that and market it accordingly.
yeah that's all they have going for them. I guess that's why i've been Dj'ing with this particular laptop for over 2 years without a single hiccup or crash or why it has never crashed period. There are about a billion other things i could put out that the aesthetics must be responsible for.
I'll give you credit for not saying the word "virus". That's usually one of the first erroneous things mentioned.
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My PC has never crashed.
Honestly, if you take care of it you never have anything to worry about.
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My PC has never crashed.
Honestly, if you take care of it you never have anything to worry about.
I came in here to post this. My laptop probably has very similar specs when compared to yours, but I'd be willing to bet that I paid at least a few hundred dollars less than you did.
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The reasons I use a Mac are simple. I'm a sucker for the aesthetic and I prefer OS X to Windows. Is that such a crime? We're not all idiots, I swear.
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The reasons I use a Mac are simple. I'm a sucker for the aesthetic and I prefer OS X to Windows. Is that such a crime? We're not all idiots, I swear.
>We're not all idiots.
>I'm a sucker for aesthetic
>idiots
:neverusethis:
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Die in a fire.
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there are many advantages to apple products. like you know the way they actually work. If you don't like them then don't use them but to say the only thing that's good about them is aesthetics is ridiculous.
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Oh Apple products have some good things, but a lot of the draw to the products is the "ooo shiny" sleek look.
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alright they are great a design. That's a GOOD thing. But that's not why i have been using their products for the last decade. That may get some people in the door but it's not what keeps them there. Looks can only go so far.
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I have a mac and a PC. I use the PC more simply because I'm more comfortable on Windows, but the Mac runs a lot better. The PC has had tons of problems, while the Mac has had barely any.
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I have run both a Mac and PC and I noticed no difference in the way I was able to work. Actually on a Mac I noticed I was working "slower" than I was on the PC but it could have been my inexperience. Now onto to the programming argument.
I'm a 15+ year applications programmer. I have coded on all three platforms (Linux, Mac and Windows) and I have noticed that there isn't a single difference in any OS I work in, but then I do cross platform applications. I use an IE that has about as much functionality as MSVS and can use on all three platforms. I currently have a laptop now as I am away from my main computer and I can't stand it. I need the bigger screen space and two monitors to really get going in any programming project. Programming on a laptop is an OK experience. I cannot imagine doing it on an iPad. In fact I think I would scream. If I got an iPad it would become my reading tablet and nothing more.
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I personally got tired of the "only Apple products will be compatible with Apple products" thing. It's reasonable and it has surely provided the company with wealth, but hey...it's not like Apple products are the cheapest products in town.
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I personally got tired of the "only Apple products will be compatible with Apple products" thing. It's reasonable and it has surely provided the company with wealth, but hey...it's not like Apple products are the cheapest products in town.
i now what you mean but that has changed over the years. Considering you can write windows inside of OSX now you can pretty much do anything. Also ipods, iphones, ipads, work on a pc also.
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The reasons I use a Mac are simple. I'm a sucker for the aesthetic and I prefer OS X to Windows. Is that such a crime? We're not all idiots, I swear.
It's futile, Joe. Let it be.
I use both Mac and Windows. Mac for work, Windows for gaming. Never had any problems.
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I think I've come to the conclusion I'd actually like apple if their marketing department didn't exist.
Are you kidding? They have one of the most brilliant marketing departments in the world because they manage to convince people to dramatically overspend on products they could get from other companies for considerably cheaper. If their marketing department didn't exist, Apple wouldn't exist.
The huge problem with Apple's marketing team is that they encourage people to buy their products for the dumbest reasons. From a business standpoint, yes, it's goddamn brilliant but you're also creating an army of people who don't know what the hell they're talking about, hence the stereotypes of the traditional Apple users. I mean look at the "new" MacBook Air commercial that aired many months ago. The first and only thing they talked about was the look of the device. The first iPad commercials were 100% about the aesthetics of the device. The whole "Mac vs PC" wasn't geared towards their product, it was geared towards grossly exaggerating things they deemed flaws in Windows which their fans happily lapped up and continue to parrot back to this day like a bunch of fucking morons.
I hate to harp on the stereotype of the traditional Apple user but most really are dumb, at least when it comes to computers. I have to constantly explain and point out things to my friend like "where's the hue feature in Photoshop?" and "how do I convert music files from one type to another?". They're bred to not use their brains and figure stuff out on their own.
Who exactly is the "traditional Apple user?" I am not a photoshop user, so I'd have to ask that. Windows or Mac.
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Hipsters.
:neverusethis:
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The reasons I use a Mac are simple. I'm a sucker for the aesthetic and I prefer OS X to Windows. Is that such a crime? We're not all idiots, I swear.
+1
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Every PC I have ever owned has been a piece of shit after a few years. I know how to take care of a computer as well. I don't know if it is windows as much as it is shitty hardware, but either way it's annoying. The price of a Mac is the only thing keeping me away.
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I know of friends that changed from PC to MAC because they just didn't care and didn't know how to run the programs to keep Windows running smoothly. They just want to save their files, music and stuff and that's it. They don't want any other thing. They have money, they bought a MAC.
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Every PC I have ever owned has been a piece of shit after a few years. I know how to take care of a computer as well.
Clearly you don't.
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:lol
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:lol
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Every PC I have ever owned has been a piece of shit after a few years. I know how to take care of a computer as well.
Clearly you don't.
No I do. My first dell tower, a 4500 series, still runs like a champ. I bought it with my graduation money in 2002. Everyone after that (3 laptops) has gone to shit. Sure, they still work, but they crashed far too often, would freeze alot, all those little hicups that add up to just hating the thing.
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I've owned one Apple product. An iPod I got about five years ago, three years ago it stopped allowing me to add or remove any content, but it still plays back what I had on there fine. I've owned one laptop, an Alienware that had a motherboard die 13 months after I got it (it was a 17" so I practically never moved it), sent it back replaced it for free, worked for another two years then had the same problem earlier this week. Because of the brand Staples or Best Buy act helpless and that model has been discontinued, and it's not under warranty. Rather than pay an arm and a leg to fix it I bought a Dell.
The Mac Pro's a school are really nice, but I've had programs freeze up on me a few times. Then again I bet I could buy a nice PC for $3000.
I call it even.
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I bought an unreal PC for 2,000. that's with monitor included. I love it so much.
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Every PC I have ever owned has been a piece of shit after a few years. I know how to take care of a computer as well.
Clearly you don't.
No I do. My first dell tower, a 4500 series, still runs like a champ. I bought it with my graduation money in 2002. Everyone after that (3 laptops) has gone to shit. Sure, they still work, but they crashed far too often, would freeze alot, all those little hicups that add up to just hating the thing.
At least they still work. My sister's Macbook just stopped working after a few months, and the people at the Apple store had no idea what was wrong with it, but wouldn't replace it as the model was out of date, so she had to pay a few hundred pounds extra to get the newer model. She lost a fair bit of work and loads of photos as a result.
And I've never had a problem with my PCs, desktop or laptop. So basically, there's no real difference in quality or reliability anymore. Maybe there was 10 years ago, but now are both basically the same in that regard.
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Actually, without Apple Windows would still be an unusable piece of shit. Windows has come a long way at this point because of the competition.
rumborak
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Not sure I'd be so harsh as a POS, but it's definitely helped; Apple was the first to go the the GUI wasn't it? Imagine the world if that never happened... wow.
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Not sure I'd be so harsh as a POS, but it's definitely helped; Apple was the first to go the the GUI wasn't it? Imagine the world if that never happened... wow.
Except, like most other things, Apple didn't invent that either. That was Xerox.
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Actually, without Apple Windows would still be an unusable piece of shit. Windows has come a long way at this point because of the competition.
rumborak
Well, that's an entirely separate point, but yeah I do agree. If Windows had had a monopoly over the market all this time then I'm pretty sure the quality would have deteriorated immensely.
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Not sure I'd be so harsh as a POS, but it's definitely helped; Apple was the first to go the the GUI wasn't it? Imagine the world if that never happened... wow.
Except, like most other things, Apple didn't invent that either. That was Xerox.
So they got the GUI as well as the mouse from Xerox?
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Not sure I'd be so harsh as a POS, but it's definitely helped; Apple was the first to go the the GUI wasn't it? Imagine the world if that never happened... wow.
Except, like most other things, Apple didn't invent that either. That was Xerox.
So they got the GUI as well as the mouse from Xerox?
Yes. Xerox had this at PARC, but didn't know how to commercialize it. They invited Steve Jobs and Woz to PARC. Apple essentially took the idea and hired a few of Xerox's engineers to create a GUI. Their first wasn't even on the Mac. I had Mouse Paint on my Apple //c that came with the mouse. Then onto the IIgs, and finally to the LISA. The Mac was far from their first GUI. The IIgs had a GUI OS well before the Mac, which was before Windows.
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That's clever. :lol
Didn't know Linux had fanboys to begin with, though.
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Of course they do. IT'S OPEN SOURCE AND FREE AND IT'S SO LIGHTWEIGHT COMPARED TO OTHER BLOATED OPERATING SYSTEMS. UBUNTU ISN'T A REAL LINUX DISTRO etc. etc.
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That's clever. :lol
Didn't know Linux had fanboys to begin with, though.
Clearly you've never seen a group of Computer Science majors.
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Hey hey hey, I'm no Linux fanboy :lol
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Ok wait, i r confuse. Are Linux and Ubuntu the same thing, related to one another, or completely separate OSes?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distributions
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Oh, geez. Perhaps you guys should read the Android forums... "When is the Evo 2 coming out?" It's not even a year old and people want the new one as if the current one isn't fast enough. Fanboys are fanboys, no matter the system.
At least Apple only comes out with products on a yearly basis. Android phones come out on a weekly basis that makes last week's look bad.
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Oh, geez. Perhaps you guys should read the Android forums... "When is the Evo 2 coming out?" It's not even a year old and people want the new one as if the current one isn't fast enough. Fanboys are fanboys, no matter the system.
At least Apple only comes out with products on a yearly basis. Android phones come out on a weekly basis that makes last week's look bad.
I'll be bummed when the next DroidX comes out and I'm stuck with the original.
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Oh, geez. Perhaps you guys should read the Android forums... "When is the Evo 2 coming out?" It's not even a year old and people want the new one as if the current one isn't fast enough. Fanboys are fanboys, no matter the system.
At least Apple only comes out with products on a yearly basis. Android phones come out on a weekly basis that makes last week's look bad.
Same beef, different bun.
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Now that I think about it, Apple didn't mention how much RAM the iPad 2 has and how much Megapixels does the camera have did they?
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Now that I think about it, Apple didn't mention how much RAM the iPad 2 has and how much Megapixels does the camera have did they?
Since they didn't mention it, it's either 256MB still or bumped up to 512MB.
The front camera is VGA (640x480) and the back camera shoots video at 720p (1280x720) and Wired.com reported stills at 0.92 MP.
Now I am not a defender of Apple in the least, and own a Xoom, which I prefer over the iPad, but anyone in photography will tell you that megapixels are not the major determinant in picture/video quality. It really comes down to a side by side comparison of shots.
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Now that I think about it, Apple didn't mention how much RAM the iPad 2 has and how much Megapixels does the camera have did they?
I don't remember hearing about the pixels, but they both shoot video in 720p.
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I think TechCrunch said the front camera will autofocus, but the rear one will not.
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ram is most likely at least 512. They said the graphics boost is 9x. There is no way that could happen without a boost in ram.
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Oh, geez. Perhaps you guys should read the Android forums... "When is the Evo 2 coming out?" It's not even a year old and people want the new one as if the current one isn't fast enough. Fanboys are fanboys, no matter the system.
At least Apple only comes out with products on a yearly basis. Android phones come out on a weekly basis that makes last week's look bad.
I'll be bummed when the next DroidX comes out and I'm stuck with the original.
Really? Even if a dual-core Evo came out next week, it really wouldn't bother me (this sort of belongs in the Android thread, though.)
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ram is most likely at least 512. They said the graphics boost is 9x. There is no way that could happen without a boost in ram.
I guarantee it's not more than 512 MB. 768 doesn't split evenly into one or two dimms and if it was 1GB they would say so considering the competition all has 512 MB or 1 GB.
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ram is most likely at least 512. They said the graphics boost is 9x. There is no way that could happen without a boost in ram.
I guarantee it's not more than 512 MB. 768 doesn't split evenly into one or two dimms and if it was 1GB they would say so considering the competition all has 512 MB or 1 GB.
I think I remember hearing it is at 512.
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If I can save enough money, it's going into a Xoom. Upon research, it is definitely my favorite out of them all. Looks like it just smokes the iPad2 but we still need to wait for the side by side comparison videos :)
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Leaving his maiden
he rose to the sky
Returning in splendors
to earth he did fly
Subject to presence
too brilliant to face
Another had killed passion's graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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aaaaaaaace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow samsung is openly admitting an inferior product. At least that's honest.
https://venturebeat.com/2011/03/04/galaxy-tab-10-1-ipad-2/
Even Samsung is pointing out how the iPad 2 trumps its own Galaxy Tab 10.1 Android tablet.
Samsung’s vice president of mobile Lee Don-joo pointed to the iPad 2’s thin design and competitive pricing (it starts at $499 like the original iPad) as major obstacles. Speaking to the Korean news site Yonhap News Agency, Lee said that Samsung “will have to improve the parts that are inadequate” of its Galaxy Tab 10.1, which runs Google’s new Android 3.0 operating system.
The tablet is the 10-inch successor to Samsung’s original 7-inch Galaxy Tab, which currently retails for $250 with a two-year data contract, or between $500 and $600 off-contract.
Samsung hasn’t yet announced how much it will charge for the Galaxy Tab 10.1, but Lee mentioned that the company had (not surprisingly) intended to charge more than the original Galaxy Tab. “We will have to think that over,” Lee said, a sign that Samsung may end up offering the Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the same $499 entry price as the iPad 2.
Motorola’s Xoom tablet, the first Android 3.0 tablet to hit the market, and the first one many consider to be a legitimate iPad competitor, starts at $599 with a two-year data contract. That Motorola couldn’t deliver a Xoom at $499 is a common criticism, and it’s something that’s sure to cause consumers to opt for an iPad 2 instead.
Samsung likely doesn’t want to end up in the same boat, and it probably realizes it will need to compete directly with the iPad 2 when it comes to pricing. It will likely cost Samsung quite a bit to bring its pricing down, but that’s likely what it will take to make the Galaxy Tab 10.1 a success.
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The only other tablet I've looked at is the Xoom, and I get the same feeling that I get from the ipad: I just don't see what I'm supposed to use it for. Sure, having 3G internet in a nice convenient package like that is cool, but it's nowhere near enough to justify even a 300 dollar purchase, let alone a 500 or 600 dollar one.
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welcome to Wheel of Fortune, I'm Pat Sajak. Our first puzzle today is a person
F _ _ _ O _
I'll spin Pat
$500
Is there a F?
One F.
Can I buy a vowel? an O
Yep, one O.
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Wow samsung is openly admitting an inferior product. At least that's honest.
I'm sorry, how is that admitting an inferior product? In fact, in terms of raw hardware, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Xoom are superior to the iPad 2. The only obstacle they face is price.
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It's inferior because it's not Apple.
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Wow samsung is openly admitting an inferior product. At least that's honest.
I'm sorry, how is that admitting an inferior product? In fact, in terms of raw hardware, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Xoom are superior to the iPad 2. The only obstacle they face is price.
because He admitted it. Not me.
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It's inferior because it's not Apple.
False. He said they are going to have to change the design because it's not good enough. That's saying its inferior.
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Also specs literally mean nothing. How does it work? Does it work well? Are there a lot of apps for it? Those are the things that matters. The iPad 2 can edit movies and from the hands on videos it works really well. But who gives a shit if a tablet can run Final cut pro or logic or any pro app. People use tablets for things like music, email, web surfing, looking at photos and reading books. Who cares if a tablet has 20 gigs of ram. As longs as it's optimized to work well it's probably better off having the amount of ram that suits its tasks. More ram equals more battery life consumption. People don't care about Ram specs they care if it works well and that the battery life is long. I think a lot of people on here are missing this point. They also care if their favorite apps are available on the device.
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Also specs literally mean nothing.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
It's inferior because it's not Apple.
False. He said they are going to have to change the design because it's not good enough. That's saying its inferior.
He said it was more expensive and thicker, and they wanted to improve that. In no way is that saying it's inferior, it's saying there's things they want to improve on. Do you really think Apple engineers aren't looking at the competition's specs and figuring out how to beat them? I can guarantee you they are, and Steve Jobs is just too much of an egotistical douche to admit it publicly.
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specs mean nothing?
you're only furthering my assumption that you're an Apple lemming
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Also specs literally mean nothing.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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you are missing my point. In a tablet they really don't mean anything. If you can't see that then i don't know what to tell you. If the Ipad had 2 gigs of ram it wouldn't make me feel any differently about than if it had 256 mb. If it performs well at a lower ram level that is Better on a mobile device because it uses less battery power. What's not to get about that? It's all about optimization of processor and ram, not just amounts of ram. I don't see how this has anything to do with apple. This goes for any company.
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We're not arguing optimization doesn't have any impact at all. We're disputing your statement that specs literally mean nothing. Is it possible that a device with 512MB RAM runs better than another device with 1GB RAM? Sure. Should we question the long term viability of said device when apps require increasingly more RAM and processor performance? Absolutely.
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I just want to say that the Retina Display the iPhone 4 has it's just lovely. I was playing with my brother's and it's just incredible. Android doesn't have a market here, that's why I'm not even considering it. I will definitely toss away my shitty BB Curve for the iPhone 5.
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Specs only matter to the nerds and geeks of the world. Ask anybody else and they probably only know that they have "windows" on their computer, even some people with Macs will say that. Either they will say it's good or it's slow. Ask them what the specs of their computer or phone is. My wife wouldn't know what is in her phone if I didn't tell her.
Specs matter to developers so they can write apps. Specs don't even really matter to me. As long as it works as advertised. These are tablet devices, not pro machines.
So, go nerd up and boast about the specs of your device while I have fun using mine.
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So, go nerd up and boast about the specs of your device while I have fun using mine.
Because everyone here is doing that.
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Also specs literally mean nothing. How does it work? Does it work well? Are there a lot of apps for it? Those are the things that matters. The iPad 2 can edit movies and from the hands on videos it works really well. But who gives a shit if a tablet can run Final cut pro or logic or any pro app. People use tablets for things like music, email, web surfing, looking at photos and reading books. Who cares if a tablet has 20 gigs of ram. As longs as it's optimized to work well it's probably better off having the amount of ram that suits its tasks. More ram equals more battery life consumption. People don't care about Ram specs they care if it works well and that the battery life is long. I think a lot of people on here are missing this point. They also care if their favorite apps are available on the device.
That article basically told me the following. "Samsung has a tablet which seems to be inferior because it's a touch thicker and pricier than the iPad2." So in a nutshell the iPad2 being a fraction thinner means the iPad2 is better? :rollin :rollin :rollin
The price I can understand but remove the price for a minute and then compare? Now if the Samsung was "slower" then perhaps they have something to complain about but thickness? Oh nos! My tablet is .004 thicker than the iPad2. My life sucks!
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/04/apple-haters-take-note-conan-obrien-just-eviscerated-the-ipad-2/
Oh, Team Coco. :lol
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:rollin
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here are some pics of my kids. This is just SOME of them. I have 2 apple Tv's now not just one.
(https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5017/5502941647_b963eabd51.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502941647/)
macbook pro completely pimped out with ram, extra hard drive and SSD drive. and esata card (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502941647/) by tjanuranus (https://www.flickr.com/people/60382194@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5053/5502941893_0309d2d163.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502941893/)
Irena's Macbook (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502941893/) by tjanuranus (https://www.flickr.com/people/60382194@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5096/5502942207_5de73b70e0.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502942207/)
Airport Extreme (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502942207/) by tjanuranus (https://www.flickr.com/people/60382194@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/5502942545_8cfe485bce.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502942545/)
magic mouse (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502942545/) by tjanuranus (https://www.flickr.com/people/60382194@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5180/5502942779_5f6ce5e1a5.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502942779/)
apple tv 2 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502942779/) by tjanuranus (https://www.flickr.com/people/60382194@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5257/5503531966_57129f8e43_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5503531966/)
iPhone's (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5503531966/) by tjanuranus (https://www.flickr.com/people/60382194@N08/), on Flickr
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/04/apple-haters-take-note-conan-obrien-just-eviscerated-the-ipad-2/
Oh, Team Coco. :lol
i thought that was funny as well. It's comedy, most of the things stated in that video aren't even true but it's funny none the less.
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I shudder to think how much all that cost.
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iPhone's
iPhone's what?
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iPhone's
iPhone's what?
what?
It's a picture of all the IPhone boxes i have.
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iPhone's
iPhone's what?
what?
It's a picture of all the IPhone boxes i have.
He was pointing out a mistake in your grammar. It should have just been Iphones. Iphone's implies ownership.
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I see. Nice collection of boxes!
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Man, Apple has REALLY taken you in. I kinda feel bad for you
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Also why the explicit linking to the Flickr page and mentioning of ownership? As if the pictures are worth anything...
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why do you have so many iPhones?
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Also why the explicit linking to the Flickr page and mentioning of ownership? As if the pictures are worth anything...
I assume it's just part of copy & paste code that flickr provides to share photos.
Man, Apple has REALLY taken you in. I kinda feel bad for you
Dude, this is getting kind of excessive isn't it?
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here are some pics of my kids. This is just SOME of them. I have 2 apple Tv's now not just one.
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5502941647/)macbook pro completely pimped out with ram, extra hard drive and SSD drive. and esata card
Also specs literally mean nothing.
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He was talking about tablets, man.
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I know, I was just joking around.
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Man, Apple has REALLY taken you in. I kinda feel bad for you
ok you do that.
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iPhone's
iPhone's what?
what?
It's a picture of all the IPhone boxes i have.
He was pointing out a mistake in your grammar. It should have just been Iphones. Iphone's implies ownership.
ahh i see. I thought maybe he couldn't see the picture. And yeah when you copy the code in flickr it puts up the links.
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I know, I was just joking around.
yes, i am pleased with the SSD drive and the 7200 rpm drive in my laptop. It really makes a difference compared to a stock 5400 rpm drive. Also the SSD drive is optimized for OSX, it's faster than the SSD drives apple ships with the mackbook air. Yeah i can get geeked out too with specs.
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Forgive me, but how exactly can an ssd be optimised for OSX?
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Forgive me, but how exactly can an ssd be optimised for OSX?
I asked this question to OWC and they said it's through firmware. Not sure how it's done. Apple does the same thing with the SSD's they ship, the require no Trim support. They are going to support Trim in OSX Lion later this year for other third party drives. But OWC makes great products for the mac anyway so i just use them they have all kinds of good stuff.
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Man, Apple has REALLY taken you in. I kinda feel bad for you
Dude, this is getting kind of excessive isn't it?
We have LONG past excessive. We are now entering into the realm of creepy. Seriously creepy. :|
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ITT, people are not allowed to like or own Apple products.
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No one's allowed to like anything. Ever.
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Man, Apple has REALLY taken you in. I kinda feel bad for you
Dude, this is getting kind of excessive isn't it?
We have LONG past excessive. We are now entering into the realm of creepy. Seriously creepy. :|
Steve Jobs raped his mother and killed his daughter.
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i laugh at the idea that i am a fanboy when there are people like THIS...
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/07/lines-for-ipad-2-launch-begin-as-ijustin-camps-out-once-again/ (https://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/07/lines-for-ipad-2-launch-begin-as-ijustin-camps-out-once-again/)
around.
Lines for iPad 2 Launch Begin as 'iJustin' Camps Out Once Again
Monday March 07, 2011 01:26 PM EST
Written by Eric Slivka
(https://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/03/07/131951-justin_ipad_2_tent.jpg)
Justin Wagoner's tent outside temporary Knox Street store in Dallas
With the iPad 2 set for launch at 5:00 PM on Friday and Apple not offering pre-orders, those looking to get their hands on the updated tablet device as soon as possible may find themselves facing long waits to secure spots near the front of their respective lines. And just like with the iPhone 4, Dallas resident Justin Wagoner has already pitched a tent outside his local Apple Store in order to be first in line for the iPad 2 launch on Friday.
One catch for Justin is that the Knox Street retail store that has been the usual location for his campouts is currently closed for expansion, with Apple now operating out of a temporary location around the corner.
(https://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/03/07/131951-justin_ipad_2_in_store.jpg)
Justin Wagoner passing time in-store waiting for iPad 2 launch
Seeking to capitalize on his growing publicity as an early camper for Apple devices, Justin has launched a new site at iJustinOfficial.com to document his wait. He will also be offering a live video broadcast on Ustream as the iPad 2 launches.
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I would offer the guy a drink laced with sleeping pills a few hours before opening.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmG9jzCHtSQ
Steve Jobs in an old presentation talking about how he was going to change Apple's message... Think different.
Why, how, what.
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i must be missing something here. everything he said in that video is dead on.
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You're missing the point that I wasn't being sarcastic.
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We invented sarcasm green for a reason.
That's super serious blue.
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Super serious blue.
SSB...
Super Smash Brothers! Fuck yeah!
:metal
Yeah, I have nothing else to contribute.
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:ruben:
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*IRONY EXPLOSION*
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:rollin
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Glad someone appreciated it.
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video of iphone 4 prototype 64 GB. Rumor is they might release this along with iphone 5 as a cheaper alternative. I don't know they haven't done anything like that before. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. My guess is they were just saying the 64 gb for the iphone 5 and had some prototype 4's around with that storage space. But i could be dead wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXrT7-qyXuE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXrT7-qyXuE)
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so Adobe has officially ported flash over to iOS. It has to be a user download so i'm happy because there is no way i'm putting this on my iPhone or future iPad. But for the people who really want it..
Adobe’s Wallaby brings Flash to iOS days before iPad 2 release
https://venturebeat.com/2011/03/08/adobe-wallaby/ (https://venturebeat.com/2011/03/08/adobe-wallaby/)
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Because Flash is so evil.
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one more news about flash..
https://venturebeat.com/2011/03/08/iswifter-lets-ipad-access-unlimited-number-of-videos-and-games-exclusive/ (https://venturebeat.com/2011/03/08/iswifter-lets-ipad-access-unlimited-number-of-videos-and-games-exclusive/)
Apple still hasn’t approved Adobe’s Flash media player for the iPad. But that doesn’t mean you can’t run Flash content on the tablet. iSwifter is announcing today that it has created a browser app for the iPad that allows users to access a virtually unlimited number of Flash content across the web.
Apple still has its objections to Flash, but iSwifter was able to get around those objections with its cloud-based technology. It executes the Flash content in its own data center and then sends video down the pipe to the user’s iPad, which has to be connected to a Wi-Fi connection. By doing this, iSwifter has created a tool can handle the flood of demand for Flash content on an Apple-created device. With iSwifter, users can get to just about any Flash ads, games or videos on the web.
The technology is significant because it can build a bridge between Apple and Adobe, which have been in a state of geek warfare over the performance of Flash. Apple has blocked it on its mobile devices because of performance issues, but Adobe argues that Apple is putting its own self-interest ahead of users by protecting its App Store content from competition from Adobe Flash-based products.
Burlingame, Calif.-based iSwifter secretly launched it a while ago and it has already been downloaded thousands of times and has made it to the top 100 Top Free games. The iSwifter app is available on a try-before-you-buy basis. You can download it for free and if you like it you can pay 99 cents. The iSwifter technology works a lot like OnLive’s cloud gaming service, which focuses on high-end console games. The Flash sites are processed in web-connected data centers. Then they are converted into video, which is then streamed directly to the user.
“We let you see on the iPad exactly what you see on a PC that is running flash,” said Rajat Gupta, founder of iSwifter.
The iSwifter browser competes with the Skyfire browser, which costs $4.99. But Skyfire isn’t really built to handle games or Flash animations. The iSwifter app will work on just about anything, said Gupta. The iSwifter app will also likely be offered on the iPhone and Android operating systems. In the future, it will also be available on Windows Phone 7, Samsung’s Bada gadgets, and the WebOS.
“It definitely makes sense, since there are so many Flash games and videos out there,” said Atul Bagga, an analyst at Think Equity. “This is like a new distribution platform.”
When you load the app, you have two options. You can browse web sites or play games. With the web sites, you can choose from one of the featured links or just type in the web address to go to any web site. For games, there is one game that is available for free each week. The others are available as free-to-play games. After a couple of minutes of playing, the user is prompted to make an in-app purchase to continue playing. If there is a drawback to iSwifter, it is that it needs a constant Wi-Fi connection in order to run, as the video has to be streamed in near real-time to create a continuous and good experience for the user.
You can log into web sites such as Facebook and play Flash-based games such as FarmVille with iSwifter. Gupta says that iSwifter would be useful on Android systems as well, even though Flash is going to be available on those devices. That’s because all of the capabilities of Flash aren’t available on those devices.
It’s worth noting that many Flash web sites are written for PCs and need a mouse and keyboard. That means they won’t work well on a mobile device unless they are redone in a touchscreen-friendly way. But iSwifter has built software — an abstraction layer built into the cloud platform — that captures a user’s touch-based gestures and then converts them into mouse and keyboard-style inputs that Flash games can understand. That conversion is done in real-time, or immediately.
iSwifter is part of YouWeb, the technology incubator headed by Peter Relan, the chairman of CrowdStar, Aurora Feint and Sibblingz. iSwifter has created a Flash streaming service that is operated in the cloud, or web-connected data centers. With iSwifter, game developers can find a way to get their content from one platform to another, even if there is an obstacle standing in their way. The same is true for Flash-based video web sites. iSwifter has 5.5 employees and is hiring.
The service is a great way to get around walled gardens. If companies such as Apple allow the app, it can then bring content that might otherwise not run — or be allowed to run — on the particular platform. By making their games available on iSwifter, game developers can avoid being locked out of certain platforms. And the developers do not have to adapt their games, changing them from one format to another, just to expand their reach to new platforms.
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Because Flash is so evil.
no because the last thing i need on a small mobile device is fucking flash ads all over the place slowing down the device, wasting battery. Also i had Frash installed on my iphone. Which is basically click to flash and it disables the ads which was great. The problem was i never used it and that's the truth maybe once a month i might have clicked a video that wasn't playable. And it seems to me that one of the main reasons adobe is doing this is for ads. So i doubt they will build in click to flash.
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Wait, that's what you think Flash is on mobile devices for? Seriously? Wow you really have succumbed to Jobs' insane anti-Flash ramblings.
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Wait, that's what you think Flash is on mobile devices for? Seriously? Wow you really have succumbed to Jobs' insane anti-Flash ramblings.
it happens on a laptop. Flash ads, battery eating etc. So it's that but tenfold on a mobile device. It has nothing to do with Steve jobs.
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Wait, that's what you think Flash is on mobile devices for? Seriously? Wow you really have succumbed to Jobs' insane anti-Flash ramblings.
it happens on a laptop. Flash ads, battery eating etc. So it's that but tenfold on a mobile device. It has nothing to do with Steve jobs.
Really? I have a laptop and run websites with flash. Not noticing any battery loss. Flash ads can be blocked with filters. Nice try. ;)
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ok fine then...
https://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2011/01/03/rim-kaufman-questions-playbook-battery-again/ (https://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2011/01/03/rim-kaufman-questions-playbook-battery-again/)
He’s at it again: Kaufman Brothers analyst Shaw Wu, after suggesting last week that there may be battery issues with Research in Motion‘s (RIMM) forthcoming Playbook tablet — claims that were rebutted by RIM last Thursday — Wu has another note out today with some more specific allegations.
“Based on further data points we have picked up, we would be very surprised if PlayBook matches anywhere near the battery life of the [Apple (AAPL)] iPad at 10 hours unless it uses a larger battery,” writes Wu, without specifying the data points in question. Wu lists as the main reasons for his skepticism the fact that Apple simply has a technology edge: its custom-designed A4 chip system-on-a-chip, the iOS software, and Apple’s custom battery chemistry give the iPad an advantage in power management/production.
Wu also thinks Adobe‘s (ADBE) Flash program is tripping up the tablet:
In addition, from our understanding, the poor battery life of early PlayBook units may be due to its incorporation of Adobe Flash. As seen in recent tests for the new MacBook Air, use of Flash can cut battery life in half. It should be no surprise to anyone that our checks indicate Adobe is furiouslyworking on reducing Flash’s consumption of resources to make it a viable mobile platform vs. HTML5 that both Apple and Google are moving toward.
https://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/11/lack-of-flash-gives-macbook-air-two-extra-hours-of-battery-life/ (https://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/11/lack-of-flash-gives-macbook-air-two-extra-hours-of-battery-life/)
We sometimes sneer at cellphones equipped with Adobe’s Flash browser plug-in: On tiny, energy-efficient mobile processors, the plug-in spikes CPU-usage, causing a big drain on battery life and often making the poor host browser so stuttery and unresponsive that it is rendered useless. But what of full-sized computers? They can handle it, right?
Maybe not. Much has been made of Apple’s decision to ship the new MacBook Airs without the Adobe plug-in, and in future all Macs will be made this way. In tests run by Wired.com’s sister site, Ars Technica, it turns out that having Flash installed can cut the notebooks’ battery life by one third. That’s right. Simply by not having a browser plug-in installed, the 11-inch MacBook Air gets two extra hours of battery life. Ars:
Having Flash installed can cut battery runtime considerably — as much as 33 percent in our testing. With a handful of websites loaded in Safari, Flash-based ads kept the CPU running far more than seemed necessary, and the best time I recorded with Flash installed was just 4 hours. After deleting Flash, however, the MacBook Air ran for 6:02 — with the exact same set of websites reloaded in Safari, and with static ads replacing the CPU-sucking Flash versions.
Anecdotal reports of the new Airs say that they run cooler and quieter than other Mac notebooks, unless they are using Flash. YouTube videos and Flash ads are pretty much the only things that cause the machines to heat up, and for their usually silent fans to spin up.
What to do? Well, there are lots of great Flash-blocking plug-ins for browsers, but these are rather heavy-handed. The sites you visit still think you have Flash, and serve ads and video only for them to be suppressed. If you uninstall Flash completely, though, the site will often have a fallback, serving static ads and — in many cases — plain HTML5 video. The content creators get their ad impressions, you get less blinking crap and better battery life, and the world gets the hint that maybe Flash isn’t as ubiquitous as it used to be.
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Battery life isn't a legitimate reason to completely exclude software functionality. Is it really that hard to just make an 'enable/disable' flash option on the ipad/pod/phone?
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That would require iPad/iPhone/iPod users to know what they were doing in settings. I'd be surprised if Apple gave users access to those kinds of features.
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Battery life isn't a legitimate reason to completely exclude software functionality. Is it really that hard to just make an 'enable/disable' flash option on the ipad/pod/phone?
well people can be happy because there is now. The problem was according to Steve Jobs adobe wasn't playing ball with them in developing iOS and he got sick of it. So eventually he said i don't need you and went without them. Now adobe has made flash for iOS for the people that want it. I don't see myself using it because like i said before i had Frash installed and never used it.
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That would require iPad/iPhone/iPod users to know what they were doing in settings. I'd be surprised if Apple gave users access to those kinds of features.
that's ridiculous
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This article is better
https://gizmodo.com/#!5475005
I just don't buy it. I can understand flash eating resources but I just can't buy the amount of battery degradation that Jobs is hyping up.
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That link doesn't work for me (even after I've copied and pasted the entire link).
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That link doesn't work for me (even after I've copied and pasted the entire link).
It worked for me.
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Weird. It just takes me to the home page.
Edit: Can see it now
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Well, definitely weird. I see the column Vivace wanted to link, it's titled "Steve Jobs: Flash Video Would Make the iPad Battery Life 1.5 Hours"
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Well, definitely weird. I see the column Vivace wanted to link, it's titled "Steve Jobs: Flash Video Would Make the iPad Battery Life 1.5 Hours"
lol
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Well, definitely weird. I see the column Vivace wanted to link, it's titled "Steve Jobs: Flash Video Would Make the iPad Battery Life 1.5 Hours"
lol
Do you seriously believe him when he says that?
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I'm in the lab at school, and I have a question for all you Mac users. Why don't any of you ever maximize windows? I'm looking at 9 people on Macs and they all have browsers or other programs open and only taking up a portion of a screen. Why do you do that!?
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Also, harry: get rid of the uk. part of the URL, gizmodo's retarded like that.
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I like to see/access other things at the same time. non-maximized windows and exposé are how I operate. It's rare that I ever minimize something.
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Well, definitely weird. I see the column Vivace wanted to link, it's titled "Steve Jobs: Flash Video Would Make the iPad Battery Life 1.5 Hours"
lol
Do you seriously believe him when he says that?
i believe that Steve Jobs knows best for apple products. Given his track record over the last decade it would be foolish not to trust him.
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Are you always so trusting of people trying to sell you stuff?
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I'm in the lab at school, and I have a question for all you Mac users. Why don't any of you ever maximize windows? I'm looking at 9 people on Macs and they all have browsers or other programs open and only taking up a portion of a screen. Why do you do that!?
I don't prefer full screen most of the time. With OSX Lion everything will be able to do full screen but i like using multiple windows at the same time. But if the new implementation of spaces and expose is as good as i think it will be in Lion with Mission Control i might start using more full screen windows. Mission Control looks awesome.
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Are you always so trusting of people trying to sell you stuff?
no but Apple was almost out of business when he took it over and now they are the biggest tech company in the world in just over a decade's time. It's steve jobs vision and philosophies that have made them what they are. Since i genuinely love the products i have no reason not to trust him.
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Also, harry: get rid of the uk. part of the URL, gizmodo's retarded like that.
It ended up working in the end, for some reason.
So, tjanuranus, did you even read the article that Vivace posted?
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I'm in the lab at school, and I have a question for all you Mac users. Why don't any of you ever maximize windows? I'm looking at 9 people on Macs and they all have browsers or other programs open and only taking up a portion of a screen. Why do you do that!?
I'm not a mac user, but at home I rarely maximize anything. I have a large, widescreen monitor and most things simply aren't made for a monitor that size. Website typically take up half of the screen. At work I keep Outlook maximized in the background and keep other things smaller in front.
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Are you always so trusting of people trying to sell you stuff?
no but Apple was almost out of business when he took it over and now they are the biggest tech company in the world in just over a decade's time. It's steve jobs vision and philosophies that have made them what they are. Since i genuinely love the products i have no reason not to trust him.
Hate to break it to you, but Steve Job's philosophy is to make a lot of money.
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Are you always so trusting of people trying to sell you stuff?
no but Apple was almost out of business when he took it over and now they are the biggest tech company in the world in just over a decade's time. It's steve jobs vision and philosophies that have made them what they are. Since i genuinely love the products i have no reason not to trust him.
Hate to break it to you, but Steve Job's philosophy is to make a lot of money.
by making great products. If the products weren't great i wouldn't use them.
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Are you always so trusting of people trying to sell you stuff?
no but Apple was almost out of business when he took it over and now they are the biggest tech company in the world in just over a decade's time. It's steve jobs vision and philosophies that have made them what they are. Since i genuinely love the products i have no reason not to trust him.
Hate to break it to you, but Steve Job's philosophy is to make a lot of money.
I'm pretty sure that is the philosophy of every business.
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Also, harry: get rid of the uk. part of the URL, gizmodo's retarded like that.
It ended up working in the end, for some reason.
So, tjanuranus, did you even read the article that Vivace posted?
i've seen that before it's an old article.
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but seriously are we doing a Flash debate gain? I just wanted to point out that adobe has ported flash over to the iOS so people who want to use. I don't but obviously not everyone feels that so more power to them. I really don't want to get into another flash battle where i post links and other people post counter links and it's never ending. What's the point it's not like people aren't buying iOS devices but now if you want flash you can have it. Win for everyone.
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Are you always so trusting of people trying to sell you stuff?
no but Apple was almost out of business when he took it over and now they are the biggest tech company in the world in just over a decade's time. It's steve jobs vision and philosophies that have made them what they are. Since i genuinely love the products i have no reason not to trust him.
Hate to break it to you, but Steve Job's philosophy is to make a lot of money.
I'm pretty sure that is the philosophy of every business.
Yep.
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Are you always so trusting of people trying to sell you stuff?
no but Apple was almost out of business when he took it over and now they are the biggest tech company in the world in just over a decade's time. It's steve jobs vision and philosophies that have made them what they are. Since i genuinely love the products i have no reason not to trust him.
I wish I could remember the conversation I had with my friend who is a big techie and he pretty much said that the only role Jobs has is to be the face of Apple. Most technology devised by the company comes from a variety of other sources and engineers and almost never Jobs himself. The way my friend was describing some of the stuff Apple was doing sounded kinda cool it's just that whenever Jobs explains it on stage he does it in such an arrogant way that it's very unappealing to people who don't buy into the Apple brand.
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Are you always so trusting of people trying to sell you stuff?
no but Apple was almost out of business when he took it over and now they are the biggest tech company in the world in just over a decade's time. It's steve jobs vision and philosophies that have made them what they are. Since i genuinely love the products i have no reason not to trust him.
I wish I could remember the conversation I had with my friend who is a big techie and he pretty much said that the only role Jobs has is to be the face of Apple. Most technology devised by the company comes from a variety of other sources and engineers and almost never Jobs himself. The way my friend was describing some of the stuff Apple was doing sounded kinda cool it's just that whenever Jobs explains it on stage he does it in such an arrogant way that it's very unappealing to people who don't buy into the Apple brand.
you think it's pure coincidence that when he took over they were going broke and now they are where they are? I don't think so personally.
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on another note...
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https://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/09/apple-releases-xcode-4-to-developers-coming-soon-to-mac-app-store-for-4-99/
Apple today updated its Xcode information page to note that Xcode 4 is now officially available free of charge for all registered members of the company's iOS and Mac Developer Programs. Interestingly, it appears that non-members will have the option to purchase Xcode through the Mac App Store, although the listing does not yet appear to be active. Pricing appears to be set at $4.99 for non-members.
Xcode 4 is the new version of Apple's powerful integrated development environment for creating great apps for Mac, iPhone, and iPad. Xcode 4 includes the Xcode IDE, Instruments, iOS Simulator, and the latest Mac OS X and iOS SDKs.
Xcode 4 has a streamlined new interface that integrates UI design, coding, testing, and debugging, all within a single window. The embedded Apple LLVM compiler underlines coding mistakes as you type, and is even smart enough to fix the problems for you automatically.
Apple gave developers the first glimpse at Xcode for at WWDC 2010 last June, and has released a number of updates to the software since that time. Apple seeded a golden master version of Xcode 4 in early February, and followed that up with a revised golden master alongside the iOS 4.3 golden master just last week.
Update: Xcode 4 has now gone live in the Mac App Store.
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one of the first iPad 2 reviews is up. Really in depth review from engadget.
https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/09/ipad-2-review/ (https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/09/ipad-2-review/)
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/09/ipad-2-review/
iPad 2
Apple
$499 - $829
3/9/11
RATING
9/10
THE GOOD
Amazingly thin
Extremely fast
Cameras finally added
THE BAD
Camera quality is poor
Screen resolution could be higher
OS still has rough edges
Ninja'd
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Does Joshua Topolsky actually review anything other than Apple products these days?
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here's the wrap up from engadget...
Wrap-up
It might frustrate the competition to hear this, but it needs to be said: the iPad 2 isn't just the best tablet on the market, it feels like the only tablet on the market. As much as we'd like to say that something like the Xoom has threatened Apple's presence in this space, it's difficult (if not impossible) to do that. Is the iPad 2 a perfect product? Absolutely not. The cameras are severely lacking, the screen -- while extremely high quality -- is touting last year's spec, and its operating system still has significant annoyances, like the aggravating pop-up notifications. At a price point of $499, and lots of options after that (like more storage and models that work on both Verizon's and AT&T's 3G networks), there's little to argue about in the way of price, and in terms of usability, apps like GarageBand prove that we haven't even scratched the surface of what the iPad can do.
For owners of the previous generation, we don't think Apple's put a fire under you to upgrade. Unless you absolutely need cameras on your tablet, you've still got a solid piece of gear that reaps plenty of the benefits of the latest OS and apps. For those of you who haven't yet made the leap, feel free to take a deep breath and dive in -- the iPad 2 is as good as it gets right now. And it's really quite good.
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Here's another new review from Slashgear...
https://www.slashgear.com/ipad-2-review-09139014/ (https://www.slashgear.com/ipad-2-review-09139014/)
and here's the wrap up.
Price and Value
Despite all the changes, Apple has frozen pricing for the iPad 2. The range starts off at $499, as before, for the 16GB iPad 2 WiFi, climbing to $599 for the 32GB and $699 for the 64GB. As for the WiFi + 3G models, both the AT&T and Verizon variants are priced at $629 for the 16GB iPad 2, $729 for the 32GB and $829 for the 64GB.
Data packages for the 3G-enabled iPad 2 vary by carrier. AT&T has just two on offer, a $15 per month plan for a mere 250MB (with $15 per 250MB overage) and a $25 per month plan for 2GB ($10 per 1GB overage). Verizon has four plans, starting at $20 for 1GB ($20/GB overage), $35 for 3GB ($10/GB overage), $50 for 5GB ($10/GB overage) and finally $80 for 10GB ($10/GB overage). Both sets of plans offer month-to-month agreements, so you can sign-up, cancel and then sign-up again as you see fit, and each iPad 2 WiFi + 3G allows you to register and activate service on the tablet itself, rather than having to contact customer services.
Pit it against the competition, and the iPad 2 holds its own. The Android-based Motorola XOOM is the obvious comparison, available from $599.99 on Verizon but only if you agree to a two-year data plan. In off-contract form, it’s $799.99 for the 32GB XOOM (and the same data packages as Verizon offer for the iPad 2) which makes it $70 more than the equivalent Apple model. For that extra money you get higher-resolution cameras, a higher resolution screen and the promise of 4G further down the road, but at the cost of a less developed OS, fewer tablet-specific apps, shorter battery life under general use and a generally less polished experience overall.
There’s a lot of promise in Honeycomb, yes, but today – and likely for the first six months or so – it falls well short of the consistency, ease of use and stability iOS and the iPad 2 offer. Value is always subjective, but right now the general tablet audience will likely find the iPad 2 more approachable, more straightforward and easier to get the best out of from day one.
Wrap-Up
How much, exactly, did Apple have to do to maintain its tablet lead? Even a year after its launch, the original iPad consistently held rivals and upstarts at arms-length across most of the key metrics. Challengers fell short of its battery life, couldn’t match its pricing, struggled with usability and floundered in the absence of a well-stocked App Store and huge developer support. Yes, there were flaws and omissions, but Apple was still the company to beat in the fledgling consumer tablet segment.
On most levels, then, the iPad 2 over-delivers. By boosting speed and graphics performance while simultaneously slimming down the chassis and preserving battery life, Apple has maintained its core strengths and extended its lead in what are arguably the toughest areas rivals faces. Sure, a Retina Display would have been great, and high-resolution camera, but it’s relatively straightforward to drop those into the next iPad; it’s a whole lot more difficult to make a super-thin tablet with 10+ hours of runtime.
For original iPad owners, the question of whether to upgrade is a difficult one. If you want Verizon 3G support then there’s no choice, of course, but otherwise the performance boost from the free iOS 4.3 update will likely persuade many that they can hold off on a hardware refresh until the third-generation iPad arrives. FaceTime works, certainly, and the ability to shoot 720p HD (and use iMovie, which won’t be available for the camera-free original iPad) and process it all on-device are neat, but there’s no must-have improvement that conclusively swings it for everybody. If the original iPad’s speed proved frustrating to you then the Apple A5 chip is certainly a blessing, and those with an objection to weight won’t have any problems falling for the super-skinny iPad 2 chassis, but from the boosted Safari performance alone we’d be tempted to stick with iOS 4.3 a while before dumping the first model.
For everyone else, though, Apple has put together a superbly capable, class-shaping tablet, which can now legitimately take on not only other slates but lighter ereaders such as Amazon’s Kindle. The iPad 2 benefits from Apple’s cohesive hardware and software development together with the vast third-party developer support of the App Store, consistent and simple to use in equal measure. Apple’s vision of the post-PC world isn’t quite here yet – the iPad 2 still works best with, and at times demands, integration with a “proper” computer – but when it comes to tablets the iPad 2 maintains its position at the vanguard of the market. [Apple]
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THE GOOD
Cameras finally added
THE BAD
Camera quality is poor
lol
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here's the wrap up from engadget...
Wrap-up
It might frustrate the competition to hear this, but it needs to be said: the iPad 2 isn't just the best tablet on the market, it feels like the only tablet on the market. As much as we'd like to say that something like the Xoom has threatened Apple's presence in this space, it's difficult (if not impossible) to do that. Is the iPad 2 a perfect product? Absolutely not. The cameras are severely lacking, the screen -- while extremely high quality -- is touting last year's spec, and its operating system still has significant annoyances, like the aggravating pop-up notifications. At a price point of $499, and lots of options after that (like more storage and models that work on both Verizon's and AT&T's 3G networks), there's little to argue about in the way of price, and in terms of usability, apps like GarageBand prove that we haven't even scratched the surface of what the iPad can do.
For owners of the previous generation, we don't think Apple's put a fire under you to upgrade. Unless you absolutely need cameras on your tablet, you've still got a solid piece of gear that reaps plenty of the benefits of the latest OS and apps. For those of you who haven't yet made the leap, feel free to take a deep breath and dive in -- the iPad 2 is as good as it gets right now. And it's really quite good.
Joshua Topolsky is a punk bitch. Harry can back me on this.
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WTF is this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RmzfaYkz68&tracker=False (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RmzfaYkz68&tracker=False)
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I back you up, Chris.
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So, guys....I have a job interview with Apple on a week Sunday :rollin
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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TROLOLOLOLOLOL
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OLOL GOOD LUCK
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WTF is this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RmzfaYkz68&tracker=False (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RmzfaYkz68&tracker=False)
Some soprt of spherical music app?
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Because Flash is so evil.
Flash isn't "evil." But it was never designed for touch interfaces. Flash for the Mac sucks. It isn't optimized correctly for OSX. Whenever my wife plays Flash-based games on my Macbook, it almost lights the CPU on fire.
I d/l Flash for my Evo. I have used it... maybe twice. It's just not that necessary on a phone, but on a tablet where there is much more PC-like web browsing experience, I think Flash might be okay, barring the sucking the life out of the battery.
Other than games, there is little use for Flash now.
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Because Flash is so evil.
Flash isn't "evil." But it was never designed for touch interfaces. Flash for the Mac sucks. It isn't optimized correctly for OSX. Whenever my wife plays Flash-based games on my Macbook, it almost lights the CPU on fire.
That's because Apple doesn't give Abode access to the APIs they need to implement hardware acceleration.
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Because Flash is so evil.
Flash isn't "evil." But it was never designed for touch interfaces. Flash for the Mac sucks. It isn't optimized correctly for OSX. Whenever my wife plays Flash-based games on my Macbook, it almost lights the CPU on fire.
That's because Apple doesn't give Abode access to the APIs they need to implement hardware acceleration.
They got around them for video playback on Nvidia graphics cards (GPU acceleration) but not for ATi graphics cards.
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/10/safari-and-ie8-get-shamed-at-pwn2own-chrome-still-safe-for-n/
Ahead of the most recent Pwn2Own, Google made a rather proud challenge: it'd pay $20,000 to any team or individual who could successfully hack Chrome. Two takers signed up for that challenge -- and then both backed down. One individual didn't show up and a second entry, known as Team Anon, decided to focus their efforts elsewhere. There's still time left for someone to come out of the woodwork and scrape off that polish, but as of now no brave souls have registered intent. Meanwhile, IE8 was taken down by Stephen Fewer, who used three separate vulnerabilities to get out of Protected Mode and crack that browser's best locks. Safari running on a MacBook Air got shamed again, cracked in just five seconds. Not exactly an improvement compared to how it fared in 2008.
Bolded for LULZ.
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How is it even possible to hack anything in under 5 seconds?
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I imagine they knew the exploits beforehand.
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Well. That's cheating.
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How is it even possible to hack anything in under 5 seconds?
Pffft, haven't you seen any movies? :\
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Well. That's cheating.
It's called preparation! :neverusethis:
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Fuck me! Showed up 3 hours late in hopes the line would be down. It's forever! Ugh.
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Only about an hour wait. Wasn't as bad as i thought. Setting it up now. My wife said.. "I have to have one." There goes another 500 bucks! lol
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Dude, you're practically setting yourself up to have shit flung at you in this thread.
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Hey, be nice.
what was it Thomas Tusser said?
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Ok I can't be excited about it? Odd.
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Hey, be nice.
what was it Thomas Tusser said?
"A fool and his money are soon parted"?
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Because investing in my future is so foolish. Right.
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This is pretty cool!
https://toucharcade.com/2011/03/11/infinity-blade-comparison-ipad-vs-ipad-2/ (https://toucharcade.com/2011/03/11/infinity-blade-comparison-ipad-vs-ipad-2/)
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Ok I can't be excited about it? Odd.
It's when the "getting excited about questionable tech" collides with "justification for splurging money" that gets a bit hairy.
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Ok I can't be excited about it? Odd.
It's when the "getting excited about questionable tech" collides with "justification for splurging money" that gets a bit hairy.
Questionable? That Statement is questionable! The iPad2 is awesome. I know because I am speaking from user experience!
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It's awesome for you, and noone should deny you that. However, it's not helping if you dismiss statements about the iPad not being one of the best things out there as "questionable" unless they aren't backed up with arguments.
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because we all know that the Xoom is the best thing out there... it's all opinion and nobody should be bashed for their opinion.
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Ok I can't be excited about it? Odd.
It's when the "getting excited about questionable tech" collides with "justification for splurging money" that gets a bit hairy.
Questionable? That Statement is questionable! The iPad2 is awesome. I know because I am speaking from user experience!
Poking a little fun. I gotta play with one myself one of these days to see what all the fuss is about.
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I'm holding out for the Xoom2 (hopefully this Christmas).
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The most amazing part is how Apple managed to train their user base to not even look at competing options anymore.
rumborak
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I had an interesting discussion with my stepdad (big apple fan)
We were talking about how amazing smartphone technology is and saying how if you spend minimal money on a rock-bottom spec computer it would be dog slow, in spite of it having a ~1.8GHz processor and ~1GB of RAM, yet a smartphones don't come close to that but they still feel really snappy and open email apps, web pages etc really fast, and that actually most laptops are indeed overkill for what a vast number of home users need. Then we talked (I will admit to us both being a little drunk at this point) about how what they should make are laptops that run phone OS, then it suddenly occurred to us: that was the point of a tablet!
So I suddenly understand tablets and how they should be used! As a cheap computer alternative for people who only ever want to browse some web pages/play simple games/watch some videos! I think they have been wrongly marketed as an extra gadget to go with the smartphone and laptop for your technowiz with more money than sense, when actually they should be aiming them at people like my mum who uses an ancient, dog slow laptop for a small number of basic tasks.
My 2 pennies.
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Ok I can't be excited about it? Odd.
It's when the "getting excited about questionable tech" collides with "justification for splurging money" that gets a bit hairy.
Questionable? That Statement is questionable! The iPad2 is awesome. I know because I am speaking from user experience!
Poking a little fun. I gotta play with one myself one of these days to see what all the fuss is about.
You're becoming soft. :p
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I had an interesting discussion with my stepdad (big apple fan)
We were talking about how amazing smartphone technology is and saying how if you spend minimal money on a rock-bottom spec computer it would be dog slow, in spite of it having a ~1.8GHz processor and ~1GB of RAM, yet a smartphones don't come close to that but they still feel really snappy and open email apps, web pages etc really fast, and that actually most laptops are indeed overkill for what a vast number of home users need. Then we talked (I will admit to us both being a little drunk at this point) about how what they should make are laptops that run phone OS, then it suddenly occurred to us: that was the point of a tablet!
So I suddenly understand tablets and how they should be used! As a cheap computer alternative for people who only ever want to browse some web pages/play simple games/watch some videos! I think they have been wrongly marketed as an extra gadget to go with the smartphone and laptop for your technowiz with more money than sense, when actually they should be aiming them at people like my mum who uses an ancient, dog slow laptop.
My 2 pennies.
++ perfect for me, going back to school with my books, notes, and programs on it!
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The problem is you can get a great laptop for the same price that has a thousand times the versatility of a tablet.
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That is true, they are overpriced at the moment but that will come down a lot, just look at what happened with smartphones. Android came about and then a year later you can get dirt cheap little android phones that don't dazzle but they do the job. Same will happen with tablets.
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That's definitely true.
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Tablets are right now where Laptops were about 15 - 20 years ago. In about another 15 to 20 years tablets might just replace the laptop. Time will tell. right now, they are a niche item, a toy.
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To me, the biggest intrigue of the Ipad is its use as a musical instrument. I can download 30 bucks or whatever of musical applications like morphwiz and have a blast musically. I'm not sure I could do that on other tablets, and I sure can't do it on a laptop.
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Tablets are right now where Laptops were about 15 - 20 years ago. In about another 15 to 20 years tablets might just replace the laptop. Time will tell. right now, they are a niche item, a toy.
Unless they include a keyboard on the device I can't see myself getting one. I can't do on-screen keyboards.
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AT&T sucks shit.
I was excited yesterday when Harry told me that the iPhone now allows tethering, so I was pretty excited. I had been looking for a way to get my Nintendo DS online through some means.
That excitement lasted until I saw that AT&T is charging you to tether things to your phone.
Ok, sweet. You know what I like to do? I like to pay to use things I'm already paying for. Thanks AT&T for wanting me to pay to use my own bandwidth that I already pay you for. It's pure fucking profit.
stupid capitalism
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I feel like there's an app that works around that. Maybe someone else here knows how.
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It's an app you get after jailbreaking your phone, but I don't think the new iOS version has been jailbroken yet.
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It's an app you get after jailbreaking your phone, but I don't think the new iOS version has been jailbroken yet.
The best one out is called mywi I use it all the time. Free tethering! The 4.3 untethered jb is done they are waiting for 4.3.1 to release it which should be soon. There is a there'd jb out now called snow breeze for 4.3.
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Tablets are right now where Laptops were about 15 - 20 years ago. In about another 15 to 20 years tablets might just replace the laptop. Time will tell. right now, they are a niche item, a toy.
Unless they include a keyboard on the device I can't see myself getting one. I can't do on-screen keyboards.
What if it gets to the point where you can type with your mind?
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So I suddenly understand tablets and how they should be used! As a cheap computer alternative for people who only ever want to browse some web pages/play simple games/watch some videos!
???
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A cheap computer alternative is a notepad and pencil, with a calculator if you are lucky.
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Tablets are right now where Laptops were about 15 - 20 years ago. In about another 15 to 20 years tablets might just replace the laptop. Time will tell. right now, they are a niche item, a toy.
Unless they include a keyboard on the device I can't see myself getting one. I can't do on-screen keyboards.
What if it gets to the point where you can type with your mind?
What does that have to do with anything?
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Tablets are right now where Laptops were about 15 - 20 years ago. In about another 15 to 20 years tablets might just replace the laptop. Time will tell. right now, they are a niche item, a toy.
Unless they include a keyboard on the device I can't see myself getting one. I can't do on-screen keyboards.
What if it gets to the point where you can type with your mind?
What does that have to do with anything?
He's saying he wouldn't use a device that does not have a keyboard he could physically touch. I'm saying what if there was a tablet that you didn't have to 'touch' at all. What if you could control the whole unit via thought, including text.
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World Peace. There's an "App" for that! ;D
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Tablets are right now where Laptops were about 15 - 20 years ago. In about another 15 to 20 years tablets might just replace the laptop. Time will tell. right now, they are a niche item, a toy.
Unless they include a keyboard on the device I can't see myself getting one. I can't do on-screen keyboards.
What if it gets to the point where you can type with your mind?
What does that have to do with anything?
He's saying he wouldn't use a device that does not have a keyboard he could physically touch. I'm saying what if there was a tablet that you didn't have to 'touch' at all. What if you could control the whole unit via thought, including text.
Why would it need a screen and stuff? If it can read from your mind, then why couldn't it write to?
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Tablets are right now where Laptops were about 15 - 20 years ago. In about another 15 to 20 years tablets might just replace the laptop. Time will tell. right now, they are a niche item, a toy.
Unless they include a keyboard on the device I can't see myself getting one. I can't do on-screen keyboards.
What if it gets to the point where you can type with your mind?
What does that have to do with anything?
He's saying he wouldn't use a device that does not have a keyboard he could physically touch. I'm saying what if there was a tablet that you didn't have to 'touch' at all. What if you could control the whole unit via thought, including text.
Why would it need a screen and stuff? If it can read from your mind, then why couldn't it write to?
Because taking command inputs from the brain is easy. We already do it with robotic limb replacement. Stream live video into the brain and being able to make sense of it is a long ways away.
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Tablets are right now where Laptops were about 15 - 20 years ago. In about another 15 to 20 years tablets might just replace the laptop. Time will tell. right now, they are a niche item, a toy.
Unless they include a keyboard on the device I can't see myself getting one. I can't do on-screen keyboards.
What if it gets to the point where you can type with your mind?
What does that have to do with anything?
He's saying he wouldn't use a device that does not have a keyboard he could physically touch. I'm saying what if there was a tablet that you didn't have to 'touch' at all. What if you could control the whole unit via thought, including text.
I understand that, it just seems like a pretty random question; He's saying that between a normal keyboard and touchscreen he wants the physical feedback of a normal keyboard. Mental input is a totally separate form of interaction from that, and one that's pretty far off in the future.
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So I suddenly understand tablets and how they should be used! As a cheap computer alternative for people who only ever want to browse some web pages/play simple games/watch some videos!
???
Note the word "should"
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This was just tweeted by Kevin rose..... It's awesome.
Wow, this email is from a friend of mine that works for Apple in Japan... makes me happy Apple went the extra mile here, check out his story below:
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Dear Alex L, David, & Kevin,
Hi this is XXXXX in Japan. As you all must have heard, the 5th largest earthquake in recorded history hit us on Friday, 2:30pm Japan Time. As Alex often says on TWiM, stories on the ground are often quite different from the stories in the news, and there is a tech story that I'd really like to tell: the story of Apple Inc in Japan.
Full disclosure: I work at Apple as a manager at one of its stores in Japan. The earthquake hit while I was working on the first floor of one of their stores. As the entire building swayed, the staff calmly led people from the top 5 floors down to the first floor, and under the ridiculously strong wooden tables that hold up the display computers.
7 hours and 118 aftershocks later, the store was still open. Why? Because with the phone and train lines down, taxis stopped, and millions of people stuck in the Tokyo shopping district scared, with no access to television, hundreds of people were swarming into Apple stores to watch the news on USTREAM and contact their families via Twitter, Facebook, and email. The young did it on their mobile devices, while the old clustered around the macs. There were even some Android users there. (There are almost no free wifi spots in Japan besides Apple stores, so even Android users often come to the stores.)
You know how in disaster movies, people on the street gather around electronic shops that have TVs in the display windows so they can stay informed with what is going on? In this digital age, that's what the Tokyo Apple stores became. Staff brought out surge protectors and extension cords with 10s of iOS device adapters so people could charge their phones & pads and contact their loved ones. Even after we finally had to close 10pm, crowds of people huddled in front of our stores to use the wifi into the night, as it was still the only way to get access to the outside world.
Anyway, I mention this not because I work at Apple now, or because I'm an admitted fanboy, but because I'm genuinely proud of the Apple Japan staff and their willingness to stay open to help people that day. And I'm also impressed with the way Apple's products (and yes, Google's, Twitter's, and Facebook's) helped them that day. Even after we had to close, many of the staff stayed outside the store to fixing iphones and teaching people how to contact family or stay informed via wifi.
TWiM, TWiT and Rev3 have talked about the power of tech & the cloud during the recent global events, so I wanted to let you know of one more example during the Great Tohoku Earthquake in Japan.
Sincerely,
XXXXX
Great Tohoku Earthquake Survivor 2011
----- UPDATE: -----
As of the writing of this, another nuclear plant just had an explosion so I will keep the 2nd half of the story as brief as possible as I may need to evacuate soon (weak smile).
A quick list of kind things Apple did after we closed:
1. Because the trains and phones were down, almost everyone who worked in Tokyo was stranded deep in the city. All the hotels were booked, the roads were jammed, so hundreds of people were instantly homeless. Apple told all of their staff - Retail AND Corporate - that they could go sleep at the Apple stores. The Senior managers at the stores had been notified earlier and unbeknownst to we Jr. Managers, had gone out to stock up on food and drinks after the very first quake hit.
This was a godsend because by 11pm (118 aftershocks later) all food and drinks were sold out at every store within walking distance. And when I say walking distance, I mean 3-4 hours of walking distance. (Tokyo is a big city.)
Letting not just Retail but corporate staff sleep at the Apple stores was genius because:
1a. The corporate offices are in skyscrapers with over 50 flights of stairs. With all elevators in Japan shutdown, this was a nightmare.
1b. The Retail stores were the only areas where WE controlled the buildings, from top to bottom, so we could monitor, fix, and maintain the back-up power, networks, and heating ourselves.
1c. Ubiquitous wifi and Facetime devices gave us a lifeline to our families and the rest of the world. Facetime turned out to be MUCH more stable than Skype (And I'm a Skype fanboy!)
1d. With theater rooms and breakrooms designed for 150+ people, the Apple stores were the most comfortable places to be and to sleep. Much more comfortable than sleeping on the street on a cold March night.
2. Once staff let their families know that they were not only safe but how comfortable we were (break room refridgerators stocked with food and drink, etc), family members began asking if they could stay at the Apple stores as well. Of course Apple said yes. One business team member's stranded mother walked 3.5 hours to be with her daughter at the store. When she arrived, the Apple store staff gave her a standing ovation ("Warm Welcome") like they do for customers during a new launch.
3. The head of Apple International HR and of Japan Retail happened to be in Japan that week. Both came and spent the night with us in the stores and told everyone that if anyone wanted to try their luck getting home on their own, Apple would pay for any food, drink, or transportation fees that that person incurred on the way. "Your safety is most important."
If, on their way home the staff member realized they couldn't make it, but they found an open hotel, Apple would pay for it. Since many people lived 2-3 hours away, this ended up meaning 11 hour walks home, $300 taxi fares, and $800 hotel rooms (only the luxury hotels had vacancies). Executives from Cupertino and London Facetimed with us, letting us know not to worry, they supported us, and that they would write off on it all.
4. We continued to open our doors to stranded people on the street fixing iphones, selling battery packs, or simply teaching people how to get streaming news on their smart-phones until 3am in the morning. ;)
And lastly, as I write this now 3 days later, even though the Japanese government says everything is fine, nuclear plants continue to explode. And we still haven't even gotten the 7pt aftershock that is predicted to come this week, nor the nuclear/acid rain that is predicted to fall within the next 3 days. I hate to say this, but things may only get worse before they get better.
I've been calling my girlfriend at work, asking her to come home, but because the Tokyo government hasn't said anything, her company won't let her leave. On the other hand, my manager at Apple called me to let me know that Apple will support any decision I make regarding leaving the country or the area, and that a job will still be waiting for me if I decide to come back.
That is why I am a fanboy. Ack! Sorry, that wasn't brief at all!
Thanks for reading!
XXXXX
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Well, I suppose that's nice of them seeing as how Apple hasn't actually donated to charity since Steve Jobs became CEO.
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Well, I suppose that's nice of them seeing as how Apple hasn't actually donated to charity since Steve Jobs became CEO.
I figured it was just the worst product placement ever.
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Pretty good read on the opening weekend for the ipad.
https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/03/13/piper-jaffray-ipad-2-totally-sold-out-70-to-new-buyers/
Munster is sticking with his estimate of 400,000 to 500,000 iPad 2s sold, compared with 300,000 iPad 1s in its first weekend last year.
The difference is that nearly all those iPad 2s were sold in one day; stocks were essentially depleted by Saturday and not replenished. In its calls to retailers over the weekend, his team was unable to find a single iPad 2.
70% of iPad 2 buyers were new to the iPad, compared with 23% of iPhone 4 buyers who were new to the iPhone at launch.
Buyers were split almost evenly between Mac and PC users (51%/49%).
By contrast, the split for the original iPad was 74%/26%.
47% of buyers were purchasing a 3G model, which carries a $130 premium.
41% purchased the 32GB iPad 2, up from 32% who bought the 32GB version of the original iPad.
The 64GB models also gained a slight share. This means that the iPad 2's average selling price (ASP) at launch was considerably higher than original iPad's. (Munster doesn't mention that at many outlets, Apple (AAPL) ran out of 16GB iPads first, then 32BG models, which may have been a factor pushing up the launch-day ASP.)
65% of buyers owned an iPhone, 24% owned a Kindle (up from 13% of original iPad buyers), but only 6% plan to read with their iPad (down from 19% in Piper Jaffray's first iPad survey).
17% expect to use apps and play games, up from 9%, which suggests that the App Store ecosystem is growing.
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Just because you don't put your name on the donation for all then world to see doesn't mean you don't give to charities. A lot of people give anonymously. There is no proof that jobs doesn't give to charity. To make that statement is unfair.
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It's certainly possible that he donates a ton of money anonymously, but I see no reason to believe that given this:
...after resuming control of Apple in 1997, Jobs eliminated all corporate philanthropy programs as a temporary cost-cutting measure until profitability improved.[62] Despite the company's record-breaking profits and $40 billion cash on hand,[63] Jobs has not reinstated a philanthropic division at Apple.
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I'm not denying that and if you or anyone else has an issue with it thats your right and I can't argue with you on that but I'm saying personally I would imahne there is some donating going on. Again I have no proof for or against that. But I did think the the story was pretty cool and was fascinating to hear that inside story.
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Apple could cure cancer and still be hated. But if Google did it, then there would be celebrations all across the globe because we know, Google does no evil.
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::)
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Google does no evil.
Not so fast:
(https://cricketsoda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/skynet-google-tshirt.jpg)
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^
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Apple could cure cancer and still be hated. But if Google did it, then there would be celebrations all across the globe because we know, Google does no evil.
Give it time. Google will be hated like all the others too.
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Google does no evil.
:rollin Right.
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Google does no evil.
Not so fast:
(https://cricketsoda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/skynet-google-tshirt.jpg)
I have a T-shirt with that on it.
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Apple could cure cancer and still be hated. But if Google did it, then there would be celebrations all across the globe because we know, Google does no evil.
Hey, its right there in the corporate slogan: "Don't be evil".
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Apple could cure cancer and still be hated. But if Google did it, then there would be celebrations all across the globe because we know, Google does no evil.
Hey, its right there in the corporate slogan: "Don't be evil".
You're the first one that knew that... that's why I used those words. I am sure Google is far more beloved than Apple or Microsoft, even if Google might be more evil than both of them.
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Why do you think Google is worse than Apple? Apple straight up hawks overpriced goods to people who, for the most part, know they're buying it because "Apple told me it was better than the other guys". XJDenton's thing about creating an army of misinformed users in the other thread is far more evil.
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(https://scoopertino.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/apple_water_page-1024x998.jpg)
LITERALLY TWICE AS MANY HYDROGEN ATOMS AS THERE ARE OXYGEN ATOMS
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ONLY 29.99?!?!?!?1 I'M A GET IT!!!
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But that's only the glass. You haven't seen all the accessories this product offers.
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Why do you think Google is worse than Apple? Apple straight up hawks overpriced goods to people who, for the most part, know they're buying it because "Apple told me it was better than the other guys". XJDenton's thing about creating an army of misinformed users in the other thread is far more evil.
Why do you think they so angelic? Google uses everybody's personal data for their own profit. They enter every market and offer free stuff to get people to buy into their product, only to use that data for serving ads and ultimately their own profit. And they span all platforms from Linux to Windows. Android to WP7. Everybody is affected.
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Everything Google does isn't for the greater good of the internet or you and me, it's for the greater good of their own profits. And that is no different that what Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo or any other company does.
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".. has twice as many hydrogen atoms as oxygen atoms" :rollin
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Why do you think Google is worse than Apple? Apple straight up hawks overpriced goods to people who, for the most part, know they're buying it because "Apple told me it was better than the other guys". XJDenton's thing about creating an army of misinformed users in the other thread is far more evil.
Why do you think they so angelic? Google uses everybody's personal data for their own profit. They enter every market and offer free stuff to get people to buy into their product, only to use that data for serving ads and ultimately their own profit. And they span all platforms from Linux to Windows. Android to WP7. Everybody is affected.
Where did you think I thought they were angelic?
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Why do you think Google is worse than Apple? Apple straight up hawks overpriced goods to people who, for the most part, know they're buying it because "Apple told me it was better than the other guys". XJDenton's thing about creating an army of misinformed users in the other thread is far more evil.
Why do you think they so angelic? Google uses everybody's personal data for their own profit. They enter every market and offer free stuff to get people to buy into their product, only to use that data for serving ads and ultimately their own profit. And they span all platforms from Linux to Windows. Android to WP7. Everybody is affected.
Where did you think I thought they were angelic?
Opposite of evil is angelic.
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Does Apple's water come with a case? Yesterday I dropped my water and the cap broke and now I have to send in for their proprietary bottle cap which costs a whopping $69 dollars.
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Why do you think Google is worse than Apple? Apple straight up hawks overpriced goods to people who, for the most part, know they're buying it because "Apple told me it was better than the other guys". XJDenton's thing about creating an army of misinformed users in the other thread is far more evil.
Why do you think they so angelic? Google uses everybody's personal data for their own profit. They enter every market and offer free stuff to get people to buy into their product, only to use that data for serving ads and ultimately their own profit. And they span all platforms from Linux to Windows. Android to WP7. Everybody is affected.
Where did you think I thought they were angelic?
Opposite of evil is angelic.
Because the world only exists in extremes.
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*snip*
LITERALLY TWICE AS MANY HYDROGEN ATOMS AS THERE ARE OXYGEN ATOMS
I think that photo is fake. The iphone tab is open, but it's showing bottled water.
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Dun dun dunnnnn
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Here are two articles i found very interesting and probable...
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/17/iphone-5-may-get-nfc-payments-after-all/ (https://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/17/iphone-5-may-get-nfc-payments-after-all/)
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/18/nfc-to-enable-home-on-iphone-remote-computing/ (https://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/18/nfc-to-enable-home-on-iphone-remote-computing/)
iPhone 5 May Get NFC Payments After All?
(https://images.macrumors.com/article/2010/11/01/143412-iphone_visa_mobile_payment.jpg)
A Forbes blog by Elizabeth Woyke claims that despite recent rumors to the contrary, Near Field Communications (NFC) payment systems may indeed be coming to the iPhone 5.
Woyke's sources include second hand information from an entrepreneur in the NFC industry.
From what I hear, it is possible the iPhone 5 will include NFC. An entrepreneur who is working on a top-secret NFC product told me today that he believes the iPhone 5 will have NFC and cited a friend who works at Apple as a reliable source for the information.
NFC manufacturers are also expecting the iPhone 5 will arrive with an NFC payment system.
While we're sure that Apple engineers are working on the technology, this friend-of-a-friend report seems less credible than the Independent's report which claimed that Apple had informed international carriers that NFC was not coming to this year's iPhone revision. Apple is expected to launch the iPhone 5 this summer.
NFC to Enable 'Home on iPhone' Remote Computing?
(https://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/03/18/012631-mac-app-store_500.jpg)
Cult of Mac claims to have some details of how Apple will take advantage of NFC (Near Field Communications) technology in their future mobile devices. Unfortunately, their source can't specify when Apple will introduce the technology, but their source confirms that Apple is working with several iPhone prototypes with NFC built in. But beyond the expected financial payment system, Cult of Mac's source indicates that the NFC may also be used as a portable login system:
According to our source, who asked not to be named, when a NFC-equipped iPhone is paired with a guest machine, part of the user’s profile includes the apps they’ve purchased through the Mac App Store. The icons for their apps appear on the remote Mac, but aren't downloaded, our source said.
Users will reportedly be able to launch apps which will be downloaded on demand. Documents can then be saved and synced back to MobileMe so you can access your documents where ever you are. Once the NFC connection is broken, the apps and files are deleted from the guest computer, leaving it untouched.
The system is somewhat reminiscent of the Home on iPod feature that was originally advertised for Mac OS X Panther, but pulled at the last minute. In that incarnation, your Home directory would be saved on your iPod and "When you find yourself near a Panther-equipped Mac, just plug in the iPod, log in, and you're "home," no matter where you happen to be."
Cult of Mac claims that these features will be rolled into Lion, though can't be certain it when it will be deployed, if ever.
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I think the top one would be very cool. Visa just launched their own PayPal like service, and connecting it to your phone would be great. One less thing to carry around and worry about losing.
Paper money is going to disappear, maybe within a decade. Might as well spread easy transactions to the masses.
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Woops, posting in wrong thread!
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WTF!
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/18/ipad-2-wife-says-no-but-apple-says-yes/
iPad 2: Wife Says No, but Apple Says Yes
(https://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/03/21/143145-appleyes.png)
Apple is paying close attention to all iPad 2 returns during the first few weeks to make sure there are no major production defects. This policy has led to an amusing story that we thought was entertaining enough to share.
The story comes by way of an individual close to Apple:
[Apple's] focus this week has been to troubleshoot all the iPad 2s that customers are returning to the stores. One iPad came back with a post it note on it that said "Wife said no." It was escalated as something funny, and two of the VPs got wind of it. They sent the guy an iPad 2 with a note on it that said "Apple said yes."
We're guessing a free iPad satisfied any objection the customer's wife might have had.
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Nice.
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So, I just got around to doing my taxes. Turns out I'm getting about $1600.00 more than I projected. I'm buying an ipad2 the day it comes in the mail.
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I just got me a iPad 1. (32 gig no 3g)
It's just smurfy so far!
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This year I was going to buy the iPhone for the first time... and then I see this:
https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/28/no-iphone-5-at-wwdc-this-year-thats-how-it-looks-from-here/
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/wwdc-2011-2011-03-28.jpg)
No iPhone 5 at WWDC this year? That's how it looks from here
By Joshua Topolsky posted Mar 28th 2011 4:11PM
By now you've seen the announcement for WWDC 2011 (coming June 6th), but what you may not have heard yet is that this one is going to be a little different than some of the dev cons from years past. Namely, unlike the events in 2008 through 2010, you won't see the announcement of a new iPhone (or iPad... or anything else hardware related). We're hearing the same kind of chatter from sources that solid writers like Jim Dalrymple of The Loop and All Thing D's John Paczkowski have been reporting today -- that this WWDC is going to be all about the future of iOS and OS X.
Of course if that pans out, all eyes are going to be on the company's Fall event, which seems like an increasingly likely place to launch a new phone -- especially considering the fact that the iPod's place in Apple's lineup has become diminished thanks to the success of its mobile devices. The timing also sets Apple up nicely for a brisk season of holiday phone purchases. As for the iPad, Daring Fireball's John Gruber speculated that we might see some kind of new model at this year's Fall event, and while that seems highly unlikely to us given the recent launch of the iPad 2, a new tablet would make a perfect companion to that new phone. What September holds is pure speculation right now, but for the time being, it looks like you can just get comfortable with your iPhone 4.
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Dammit. I thought Joshua Topolsky was leaving Engadget.
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This year I was going to buy the iPhone for the first time... and then I see this:
https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/28/no-iphone-5-at-wwdc-this-year-thats-how-it-looks-from-here/
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/wwdc-2011-2011-03-28.jpg)
No iPhone 5 at WWDC this year? That's how it looks from here
By Joshua Topolsky posted Mar 28th 2011 4:11PM
By now you've seen the announcement for WWDC 2011 (coming June 6th), but what you may not have heard yet is that this one is going to be a little different than some of the dev cons from years past. Namely, unlike the events in 2008 through 2010, you won't see the announcement of a new iPhone (or iPad... or anything else hardware related). We're hearing the same kind of chatter from sources that solid writers like Jim Dalrymple of The Loop and All Thing D's John Paczkowski have been reporting today -- that this WWDC is going to be all about the future of iOS and OS X.
Of course if that pans out, all eyes are going to be on the company's Fall event, which seems like an increasingly likely place to launch a new phone -- especially considering the fact that the iPod's place in Apple's lineup has become diminished thanks to the success of its mobile devices. The timing also sets Apple up nicely for a brisk season of holiday phone purchases. As for the iPad, Daring Fireball's John Gruber speculated that we might see some kind of new model at this year's Fall event, and while that seems highly unlikely to us given the recent launch of the iPad 2, a new tablet would make a perfect companion to that new phone. What September holds is pure speculation right now, but for the time being, it looks like you can just get comfortable with your iPhone 4.
What evidence is there of this? They never announce ahead of time that they are releasing a new iPhone. Last year they promoted as app based and they announced it. Anyway it would make more sense to push it to a fall release. I think by releasing it in june it's to early in the year. October would probably be best for business because you can get the christmas push and you'll have the latest technology out by the end of the year so people can't release much after you. But they've always released then in June so who knows.
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found this...
https://venturebeat.com/2011/03/28/iphone-5-fall-delay/#disqus_thread
(https://cdn.venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/iphone-4.jpg)
Why a fall iPhone 5 release could be brilliant for Apple
March 28, 2011 | Devindra Hardawar1 Comment
Don’t expect to see the iPhone 5 until this fall, according to the The Loop and several other sites with insider Apple sources.
If true, the news would be a pretty major change for Apple, which has traditionally announced new iPhone models early in the summer. But I don’t think a fall delay would be the end of the world for Apple — in fact, it could end up being one of the wisest decisions Apple has ever made.
Here’s why:
LTE - There’s just about zero chance that the iPhone 5 would include support for LTE 4G networks if Apple was aiming for a summer release. Instead, that schedule would point to an LTE 4G iPhone coming in 2012. Apple isn’t in a rush to get to 4G (remember that the first iPhone only supported 2G networks), primarily because it doesn’t want to get stuck with first-generation LTE chipsets that are power-hungry and take up lots of internal space.
But if Apple aims to get the iPhone 5 out for the fall, it’s a different story altogether. The company may be able to take advantage of newer LTE chipsets that are smaller and more efficient. Also, by that point in the year both Verizon and AT&T will have extended their LTE 4G networks to cover more of the country.
Obscene anticipation – If you thought the typical wait for a new Apple product whipped gadget geeks into a frenzy, prepare for a hurricane of iPhone 5 news, rumors and anticipation if Apple delayed it until the fall. By this point, we’re used to our typical new iPhone fix in the summer. Without it, we’ll be shaking like addicts desperate for our next hit.
Let’s not forget that Apple just released the Verizon iPhone in February — delaying the iPhone 5 to the fall would serve to build up more anticipation than a spring release, which likely wouldn’t have as much impact.
Coordination with iPad 3, iTunes/MobileMe cloud services - With several rumors pointing to an iPad 3 coming this fall as well, offering the iPhone 5 at that point would be a clever one-two punch for Apple. They would both serve as flagship devices for iOS 5 (which is also rumored to come this fall), and Apple could even offer incentives to buy the iPhone 5 and iPad 3 together.
The release of a new iPad and iPhone at the same time would also sell the power of Apple’s upcoming MobileMe and rumored cloud-based iTunes services. From what we know so far, Apple is working on allowing users to stream media, instead of storing it physically on their devices. That sort of universal access to media would definitely appeal to users rocking both the iPhone 5 and iPad 3. (Then again, the features will most likely be available to most older iPhone and iPad models as well.)
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my boy Steve Duda with his DJ setup. Dude is awesome. He replaced his 2000 dollar lemur with the ipad for controlling his setup. I was shocked! I had a drink with him once and we talked about music and gear etc... He was using PC's back then and we talked about PC's and macs. As soon as he started playing out live he switched over to macs! Anyway this setups is fucking awesome.
(https://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/190140_10150128125986806_9980651805_6935100_4695018_n.jpg)
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here's a video of his custom setup. He's since replaced the lemur with an ipad like i mentioned...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1L-74MaL38 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1L-74MaL38)
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I do find it interesting that it seems the music industry has primarily placed itself into the Mac world while the Gaming Industry has primarily placed itself into the PC world. Wasn't this the exact opposite about 15 years ago? ;D
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I do find it interesting that it seems the music industry has primarily placed itself into the Mac world while the Gaming Industry has primarily placed itself into the PC world. Wasn't this the exact opposite about 15 years ago? ;D
Game developers want to move as many units as possible, it makes sense they'd go with the dominant platform.
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HEY EVERYONE LET'S REINFORCE SOME STEREOTYPES
(https://i.imgur.com/X1HBm.png)
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Has Apple ever released/announced the same product twice in the same year? e.g. the whole rumour of an iPad 2 and iPad 3 in 2011.
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That would be pretty ridiculous if they did.
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I was thinking the same thing.
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Has Apple ever released/announced the same product twice in the same year? e.g. the whole rumour of an iPad 2 and iPad 3 in 2011.
I would be amazed if they released another ipad this year, however it wouldn't surprise me.
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Mark this statement. No WAY that happens. ;D :yarr
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HEY EVERYONE LET'S REINFORCE SOME STEREOTYPES
(https://i.imgur.com/X1HBm.png)
LOL! you should see my sig! I'll upload it...
https://(https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5188/5571826214_f124eaaba1.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5571826214/)
Email Signature (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60382194@N08/5571826214/) by tjanuranus (https://www.flickr.com/people/60382194@N08/), on Flickr
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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*stares blankly*
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*stares blankly*
C'mon it's all in good fun!
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OK now I'm 90% sure you're trolling.
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Meh. And I'm saying that as a Mac user...
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I can't tell if that thing is a joke or not. If it isn't, do people actually take you seriously?
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You guys need to lighten up. :lol
I think it's funny. :tup
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Yeah, as an avid Mac user myself, that is one fucking lame signature. :lol
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure he wasn't being serious with that signature.
I laughed.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure he wasn't being serious with that signature.
One can only hope so. :P
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Too funny. :rollin
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The guy has like 8 iPhones, how the fuck was I supposed to know? :lol
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The Mac Wheel automatically put the sig "sent from a mac wheel" on anything you send.
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I loved that Onion bit so much :lol
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"It's virtually unbreakable unless dropped or hit"
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I was reading the first post and it's funny that I didn't notice how Apple named their whole gadget products with just two syllables.
I can't imagine what will Apple unveil after the iPad; do they narrow their research to inventions that only have one syllable?
They've cheated in the past, though: "Look at this com-pu-ter!" -"Nah, that won't work. Let's call it... Mac!".
iPod, iMac, iPad, iPhone, iTouch, iWin (?).
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I can't imagine what will Apple unveil after the iPad; do they narrow their research to inventions that only have one syllable?
The iThing.
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The iCare.
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...Mac...intosh
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It's a good thing Apple shortened Macintosh to Mac. Mac sounds cool. Macintosh sounds like something you'd cough up. It's an ugly-sounding word.
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Macintosh sounds like something you'd cough up.
I guess you would cough up an apple if you were choking on it...??
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It all makes sense now. :lol
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I watch at this video from 10 years ago and am completely amazed with how far technology has come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN0SVBCJqLs
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That video is fucking historic. When that first happened people thought it would flop. Ended up leading apple to eventually becoming the biggest tech company in the world. Spawned the iPhone and now iPad. Just a year ago iPad was supposed to be a huge apple failure. Then 15 million sold in 9 months and now every company is trying to compete. People can't even get their hands on iPad 2's because they sell out in seconds. That video was the start of it all pretty much.
Typing on iPad 2 btw, :)
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It's easy to sell out when you artificially decrease the supply :neverusethis:
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I should have mine any day now, once my income tax refund gets here. That is if I can find on in store.
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I watch at this video from 10 years ago and am completely amazed with how far technology has come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN0SVBCJqLs
Look how healthy he looks, even his voice sounds different, deeper.
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Just a year ago iPad was supposed to be a huge apple failure. Then 15 million sold in 9 months and now every company is trying to compete.
It's been said over and over again, but their success is not in the products they make, but in how they can convince you that whatever they make is something that you need and there's no other option.
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Pretty much. There's got to be some sort of survey out there that has polled iPad owners on why they bought one. It's not like there was a large group of people clamoring for a tablet market beforehand so the necessity of the product is still questionable.
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Just a year ago iPad was supposed to be a huge apple failure. Then 15 million sold in 9 months and now every company is trying to compete.
It's been said over and over again, but their success is not in the products they make, but in how they can convince you that whatever they make is something that you need and there's no other option.
Apple markets their brand, not their products
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Over the time I've become less of an Apple hater. They make simple products, but they do them extremely well.
True, there are fanbois and they are very vocal, but Apple's success doesn't rely solely on those few.
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I could give a shit about their marketing I love the products and how they integrate with one another what's why I use them and everyone I know does as well.
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Just got this case in the mail for my iPod Classic. It's nice. By any chance, if anyone here has an iPod Classic and needs a good case for it, I'd definitely recommend this one. :)
https://www.amazon.com/iSkin-evo4-Hybrid-classic-Black/dp/B001M04EUO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1302055785&sr=8-1
(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41h495SnOaL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
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Apple orders 12 peta bytes of storage for it's new cloud service. I would imagine this is just the first order to get it up and running...
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/06/apple-locks-in-12-petabytes-of-itunes-video-content-storage/
StorageNewsletter.com reports (via AppleInsider) that Apple has placed a massive order with Isilon Systems for up to 12 petabytes of storage to support iTunes video offerings.
Apple ordered as much as 12PB of capacity from Isilon Systems, notably to manage the video download of its customers using iTunes, according to an inside source of the new division of EMC.
According to the report, the order is likely to make Apple the largest of Isilon's 1,500 worldwide customers.
Apple is of course set to bring its massive new data center outside of Maiden, North Carolina online any day now, and Apple has reported that the facility will be used to support iTunes and MobileMe services. The company has, however, reportedly also been looking to deploy new cloud-based services that would allow users store music, video, and photos on Apple's servers for access from multiple Internet-connected devices.
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I want and ipod that allows me to stream the entire iTunes library for ten bucks a month.
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I want and ipod that allows me to stream the entire iTunes library for ten bucks a month.
Like the Zune Pass?
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I want and ipod that allows me to stream the entire iTunes library for ten bucks a month.
Like the Zune Pass?
Yes, except on an iPod.
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I want and ipod that allows me to stream the entire iTunes library for ten bucks a month.
why would you want to pay 10 dollars a month for just that?
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Because having access to any music you like instantly is awesome.
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I want and ipod that allows me to stream the entire iTunes library for ten bucks a month.
why would you want to pay 10 dollars a month for just that?
What? That's probably the best deal you could get in music.
The Zune pass is $15 per month and gives you unlimited music, anytime, anywhere. Also, you get to keep five songs each month as part of your subscription.
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i'm saying it should be free. Or at least included with MobilMe (which it probably will be.)
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I want and ipod that allows me to stream the entire iTunes library for ten bucks a month.
why would you want to pay 10 dollars a month for just that?
All the movies, series and all the music Apple has the right to play? Isn't that a bargain?
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I want and ipod that allows me to stream the entire iTunes library for ten bucks a month.
why would you want to pay 10 dollars a month for just that?
All the movies, series and all the music Apple has the right to play? Isn't that a bargain?
Nope, it's a steal.
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but if you own the stuff you should be able to access it any way you want. So they are already getting the money from people who buy it from itunes. You already have it on your computer and you already have an iphone so it makes sense to be able to access music just like the other mobile me stuff. For instance when i update a contact or calender event or bookmark or email etc.. on my iphone it automatically updates on my computer and ipad and vice versa. No cables needed because it does it over the cloud. Next logical step is to store the stuff you already own on the cloud so you can access it any time. I think this is what they are doing with video and music.
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but if you own the stuff you should be able to access it any way you want. So they are already getting the money from people who buy it from itunes. You already have it on your computer and you already have an iphone so it makes sense to be able to access music just like the other mobile me stuff. For instance when i update a contact or calender event or bookmark or email etc.. on my iphone it automatically updates on my computer and ipad and vice versa. No cables needed because it does it over the cloud. Next logical step is to store the stuff you already own on the cloud so you can access it any time. I think this is what they are doing with video and music.
No no no, you're talking about the cloud.
What I'm talking about with the Zune pass is that for $15, you can get UNLIMITED music. As in everything in the Zune store. Everything. As much music as you want. Think of it like a library card for music. And remember, you keep five songs each month.
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oh you're talking about a subscription music service like rhapsody. I get it now, sorry we were not on the same page! lol. Anyway i'm not interested in subscription services but i get some people are and that's cool. I don't need ANOTHER monthly bill personally.
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I dunno, it seems like a good deal to me if physical copies are unimportant to the subscriber. It's less than the cost of one album every month.
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Like i said for some people a subscription is cool but for me i would rather just buy stuff when i want it and own it. I think if this was out when i was a teenager it would have made more sense for me but now i already own most of the music i listen to and don't buy nearly as much music as i used to. Now for movies it makes more sense to me because i am constantly watching new movies.
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Get an iphone, get Rhapsody app... DONE
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Typing on iPad 2 btw, :)
Sorry, I couldn't tell you were "typing" on an iPad 2. It's more like "touching" with the touchscreen and all.
Isn't it supposed to make your post look all special or something?
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well i do use a bluetooth keyboard with it even though i wasn't just then. As far as it making posts look special... :yarr
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Atari's greatest Hits comes to iPad. This is so awesome...
https://youtu.be/ahBGOEKvvOA
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https://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/25/steve-jobs-on-ios-location-issue-we-dont-track-anyone/
There has obviously been a lot of discussion about last week's disclosure that iOS devices are maintaining an easily-accessible database tracking the movements of users dating back to the introduction of iOS 4 a year ago. The issue has garnered the attention of U.S. elected officials and has played fairly heavily in the mainstream press.
One MacRumors reader emailed Apple CEO Steve Jobs asking for clarification on the issue while hinting about a switch to Android if adequate explanations are not forthcoming. Jobs reportedly responded, turning the tables by claiming both that Apple does not track users and that Android does while referring to the information about iOS shared in the media as "false".
Q: Steve,
Could you please explain the necessity of the passive location-tracking tool embedded in my iPhone? It's kind of unnerving knowing that my exact location is being recorded at all times. Maybe you could shed some light on this for me before I switch to a Droid. They don't track me.
A: Oh yes they do. We don't track anyone. The info circulating around is false.
Sent from my iPhone
As is Jobs' usual style, his brief comments provide little detail or information to support his claims, and his vagueness leaves things rather open to interpretation.
Android has been shown to also gather location information, but the database is limited to a much smaller list of entries and is regularly wiped by the system. Jobs' email seems to explicitly claim, however, that Google's location information is used to track users while Apple's is not.
Apple responded to some questions about location tracking and privacy last July, noting that users have the ability to turn off location services entirely and that all location features require explicit authorization from the user. The Wall Street Journal has found, however, that this newly-publicized database is constructed even when location services are turned off entirely.
The Journal tested the collection of data on an iPhone 4 that had been restored to factory settings and was running the latest version of Apple's iOS operating system.
The Journal disabled location services (which are on by default) and immediately recorded the data that had initially been gathered by the phone. The Journal then carried the phone to new locations and observed the data. Over the span of several hours as the phone was moved, it continued to collect location data from new places.
As many observers have noted, the iOS location database does not record exact GPS data, instead seeking to pinpoint the locations of Wi-Fi access points and cell towers that the device comes within range of, although the database does offer a clear general track of a user's movements.
In the meantime, government agencies in a number of countries have launched investigations into the situation, seeking explanations from Apple and details on how users can protect their privacy.
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We don't track anyone. The info circulating around is false.
lol
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yes Apple and Google have this location info but what do people actually think they are going to do with it? Like they REALLY care about stalking YOU. Everyone is so fucking self important.
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Everything about you can be used against you at some point. The big businesses of the future will be those that erase all information about you from the internet, believe me.
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yes Apple and Google have this location info but what do people actually think they are going to do with it? Like they REALLY care about stalking YOU. Everyone is so fucking self important.
It's not about what they may or may not do with it, it's a matter of them collecting it at all - if they REALLY don't care about stalking ME, then they shouldn't be collecting the information at all.
But as it stands, there's plenty of things businesses do with private information, and it has nothing to do with me having a sense of self importance and everything to do with business. The entirety of online advertising is built around catering the ads specifically to each user based on what is known about them. Christ, when I turned 18, Gilette sent me a free razor. How did the know it was my 18th birthday? Damned if I know, but it freaked me the fuck out, and five years from now I'd rather not be getting ads telling me to check out some restaurant that they know I pass on my way to work every day.
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So.
This cloud thingy..will it be like a "file explorer" type thing that my current iPad obviously doesn't have?
Will files be accessible and usable from the cloud?
Like...an .epub or .pdf for instance?
can I pull that down and then use my reader app to play it, or does everything have to go through iTunes?
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Isn't the internet basically the cloud? My photos stored on facebook are in the cloud, googledocs is in the cloud, photobucket, etc... aren't those all basically "the cloud"?
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Isn't the internet basically the cloud? My photos stored on facebook are in the cloud, googledocs is in the cloud, photobucket, etc... aren't those all basically "the cloud"?
"The cloud" is just marketing. "The cloud" is essentially the internet.
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(https://i.imgur.com/ff3FU.png)
ಠ_ಠ
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That can't be real.
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That's got to be a joke.
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:lol :lol
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I hope that's real!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQdbbzeLitk
Oh, the Onion
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So.
Update to OS 4.3.whatever yesterday....some new exciting finger swipes between apps, pinching back to home etc etc....oh wait..spidey...not so fast.
You didn't do the update on a mac did you?
Nope.
Sorry...there's another little download that can only be done on a mac that allows you to use these new features.
Gee.
Thanks.
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lolMac
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lolMac
hilarious
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(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article/2011/05/03/083647-imacs_2011.jpg)
(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article/2011/05/03/105402-imac_2011_thunderbolt_ports.jpg)
Apple released the much anticipated iMac updates today, upgrading the processors to Quad-Core CPUs across the entire range and including Thunderbolt.
Apple today updated its signature all-in-one iMac with next generation quad-core processors, powerful new graphics, groundbreaking high-speed Thunderbolt I/O technology and a new FaceTime HD camera. Starting at $1,199, the new iMac is up to 70 percent faster and new graphics deliver up to three times the performance of the previous generation.
The new iMacs feature quad-core Intel Core i5 processors with an option for customers to choose Core i7 processors up to 3.4GHz.
The 21.5-inch iMac has a single Thunderbolt port while the 27" features two Thunderbolt ports.
21.5" 2.5GHz Quad Core i5, AMD 6750M, 500GB, $1199
21.5" 2.7GHz Quad Core i5, AMD 6770M, 1TB, $1499
27" 2.7GHz Quad Core i5, AMD 6770M, 1TB, $1699
27" 3.1GHz Quad Core i5, AMD 6970M, 1TB, $1999
Core i7 Processors are available as configure-to-order options.
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I've been forced to use a Mac in the computer lab at school for about an hour now. I actually don't hate it.
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Wait until you try and use keyboard shortcuts :P
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Or it pinwheels forever.
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To jailbreak or not to jailbreak? (my iPhone)
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Wait until you try and use keyboard shortcuts :P
It only bothered me for a day until I figured out basics, after that its easy.
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Oh, I know all the shortcuts. I just think the key combinations for them were designed by people who hate hands.
To jailbreak or not to jailbreak? (my iPhone)
Jailbreak! You can get emulators on your phone then (who doesn't want to play Pokemon on their phone?!).
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Oh, I know all the shortcuts. I just think the key combinations for them were designed by people who hate hands.
Well of course they do - they want people to buy the new iHand (https://www.theonion.com/video/apple-fans-chopping-off-hands-in-anticipation-of-n,19084/).
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Yeah, pretty much everyone I've asked says to do it, so I probably will soon. I'm just worried, as knowing my luck with iPhones something will go wrong: I've had 5 break on me, and only 1 of those was my fault. :lol
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To jailbreak or not to jailbreak? (my iPhone)
Free Tethering when you jailbreak. That's worth it alone.
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Yeah, pretty much everyone I've asked says to do it, so I probably will soon. I'm just worried, as knowing my luck with iPhones something will go wrong: I've had 5 break on me, and only 1 of those was my fault. :lol
dude what the HELL are you doing? I've had every iteration between my wife and I. Never had one break. Even dropped the first one down a flight of stairs!
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As I said, only one of them was my fault, and that one fell out of my pocket as I bent over to tie my shoelaces, and the screen cracked. Still works though!
The other four all just stopped functioning, through no fault of my own; on two of them the buttons stopped working (ie I couldn't change volume or put it onto silent or turn it off, and the headphone jack didn't work), on one of them it kept randomly turning off and on by itself every few minutes, and then the fourth one just bricked for no reason.
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To jailbreak or not to jailbreak? (my iPhone)
Free Tethering when you jailbreak. That's worth it alone.
Yeah, seriously. That whole thing American mobile carriers are doing where they charge you to use data you already pay for is fucking criminal.
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To jailbreak or not to jailbreak? (my iPhone)
Free Tethering when you jailbreak. That's worth it alone.
Yeah, seriously. That whole thing American mobile carriers are doing where they charge you to use data you already pay for is fucking criminal.
Yeah, I can see both sides of it. On the one hand, data transfer on a smartphone vs. several laptops is the difference between a toy squirt gun and a Super Soaker CPS 2000, and I can see how they wouldn't want everyone having the ability to put that kind of stress on the network.
On the other hand, unlimited data means unlimited data. If it's not unlimited, don't advertise it as such.
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To jailbreak or not to jailbreak? (my iPhone)
Free Tethering when you jailbreak. That's worth it alone.
Yeah, seriously. That whole thing American mobile carriers are doing where they charge you to use data you already pay for is fucking criminal.
+1,000,000,000
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data transfer on a smartphone vs. several laptops is the difference between a toy squirt gun and a Super Soaker CPS 2000,
I just wanted to applaud you for making an analogy that referenced one of the greatest water guns of all time. :metal
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I've been forced to use a Mac in the computer lab at school for about an hour now. I actually don't hate it.
Well... I've been at this thing for a little over 5 hours now. I think I'm sold on Macs.
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Cite some things you like.
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As I said, only one of them was my fault, and that one fell out of my pocket as I bent over to tie my shoelaces, and the screen cracked. Still works though!
The other four all just stopped functioning, through no fault of my own; on two of them the buttons stopped working (ie I couldn't change volume or put it onto silent or turn it off, and the headphone jack didn't work), on one of them it kept randomly turning off and on by itself every few minutes, and then the fourth one just bricked for no reason.
Not to say that you necessarily did anything to break those other phones, but it always bugs me when a person has the same or similar bad things happen to them repeatedly over a period of time and claims none of it was their fault. It could be a coincidence in your case, you obviously know the scenarios better than me, but if I had the same bad thing happen to me four times, I'd ask myself what I was doing to cause it to happen. At some point it stops being a coincidence.
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Cite some things you like.
I really thought I'd hate the way it organizes the windows, but after fucking around in photoshop for a while, I came to like the lay out.
I found photoshop easier to use than on my PC.
This magic pad thing is freaking amazing.
This thing has a beautiful display and I love the fact my knee isn't constantly hitting a tower under my desk.
The key board is almost silent, takes up no room, and doesn't slide around.
Things got much easier once I figured out that the command key is the same as the control key on a PC.
I really enjoy using it. It's smooth, quiet, and retarded fast.
I know I can get a PC thats just as cool, but I guess I want to just shake it up. I'm in the market for a new computer anyway. I was going to drop a thousand or so on a new laptop, but I wouldn't mind kicking in an extra 400 for one of these. I've been using PC for my entire life, I'd like to give something else a try for a change.
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Cite some things you like.
I really thought I'd hate the way it organizes the windows, but after fucking around in photoshop for a while, I came to like the lay out.
I found photoshop easier to use than on my PC.
This magic pad thing is freaking amazing.
This thing has a beautiful display and I love the fact my knee isn't constantly hitting a tower under my desk.
The key board is almost silent, takes up no room, and doesn't slide around.
Things got much easier once I figured out that the command key is the same as the control key on a PC.
I really enjoy using it. It's smooth, quiet, and retarded fast.
I know I can get a PC thats just as cool, but I guess I want to just shake it up. I'm in the market for a new computer anyway. I was going to drop a thousand or so on a new laptop, but I wouldn't mind kicking in an extra 400 for one of these. I've been using PC for my entire life, I'd like to give something else a try for a change.
omg.. another convert. (https://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/welcome-to-mac1.jpg)
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Or it pinwheels forever.
I've had my Mac for close to a year and this has never happened to me. Just saying.
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Yeah, that pinwheel forever thing only happened on charcoal powered Macs.
ALRIGHT, I'LL STOP WITH THE HANK HILL JOKES NOW...maybe
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Cite some things you like.
I really thought I'd hate the way it organizes the windows, but after fucking around in photoshop for a while, I came to like the lay out.
I found photoshop easier to use than on my PC.
This magic pad thing is freaking amazing.
This thing has a beautiful display and I love the fact my knee isn't constantly hitting a tower under my desk.
The key board is almost silent, takes up no room, and doesn't slide around.
Things got much easier once I figured out that the command key is the same as the control key on a PC.
I really enjoy using it. It's smooth, quiet, and retarded fast.
I know I can get a PC thats just as cool, but I guess I want to just shake it up. I'm in the market for a new computer anyway. I was going to drop a thousand or so on a new laptop, but I wouldn't mind kicking in an extra 400 for one of these. I've been using PC for my entire life, I'd like to give something else a try for a change.
Want to shake things up? Be a man and get a computer with linux or openBSD on it. :p
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the motherboard has been replaced on my mac twice now. <3 u 2 apple.
what a terribly constructed sentence that was :lol
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retarded fast.
For some reason I found this very funny.
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Anyone else addicted to Tiny Wings on the iPhone (or iPod Touch)? Really entertaining game!
Jailbreak! You can get emulators on your phone then (who doesn't want to play Pokemon on their phone?!).
Please show me the way! I want this!
Also, the Sleep Cycle Alarm Clock is an amazing App.
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Also, the Sleep Cycle Alarm Clock is an amazing App.
It was cool until I figured out that the alarm will just go off if I move. So when I woke up without moving, I could avoid my alarm by next not moving some more. Man I was lazy. I'm really tired right now so I'm kind of rambling.
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That's exactly how my Rock History class was. I felt a little out of place bringing my Lenovo there one time.
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That's exactly how my Rock History class was. I felt a little out of place bringing my Lenovo there one time.
:rollin
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After checking 4 stores, and calling 3 more yesterday, I failed to find an iPad2. I ordered one off apples website last night, as well as a few accessories. I hope it gets here soon!
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After checking 4 stores, and calling 3 more yesterday, I failed to find an iPad2. I ordered one off apples website last night, as well as a few accessories. I hope it gets here soon!
lol. Everybody I know that wants one is fucked.
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(https://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227528_10150250615969363_564274362_8824889_3530294_n.jpg)
That's sick! Is that a real picture?
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After checking 4 stores, and calling 3 more yesterday, I failed to find an iPad2. I ordered one off apples website last night, as well as a few accessories. I hope it gets here soon!
lol. Everybody I know that wants one is fucked.
I waited in line for an hour on day 1 and got one I figured it was better than waiting months for it!
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I have no idea, Kari. I'd like to think it is. ;)
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https://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227528_10150250615969363_564274362_8824889_3530294_n.jpg (https://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227528_10150250615969363_564274362_8824889_3530294_n.jpg)
That's sick! Is that a real picture?
Although I've never seen penetration to this extent, the number of Macs in a university lecture hall is definitely skyrocketing.
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(https://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227528_10150250615969363_564274362_8824889_3530294_n.jpg)
That's sick! Is that a real picture?
I've seen that pic but with the caption: Think Different.
Oh, the irony.
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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After checking 4 stores, and calling 3 more yesterday, I failed to find an iPad2. I ordered one off apples website last night, as well as a few accessories. I hope it gets here soon!
lol. Everybody I know that wants one is fucked.
Apple site says its shipping on May 26. Hope that stays true.
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I'm honestly surprised that the iPad 2 is that hard to find right now. I mean, it's the middle of the year. It aint Christmas yet.
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I think there has been a shortage since the quake in Japan.
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My guess is that the school gave out computers and was obviously sponsored by Apple. There's just no way that that high a percentage has them.
Also, this girl is the winner:
(https://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss273/DarthHonus29/win.png)
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idk man... the amount of Macs students have on my campus is disgusting. I'm not kidding when I say they easily out number PC.
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It's not even the fact that they all have Macs, it's the fact that they all have laptops in lecture that's weird. I've never been in a lecture where that many people had laptops out. To me that's a pretty clear indication that there's some other context to the photo.
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idk man... the amount of Macs students have on my campus is disgusting. I'm not kidding when I say they easily out number PC.
I'd say it's about 50/50 here.
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Definitely still more windows-laptops than macs here.
Also I was thinking about maybe getting an iPhone sometime in the future but damn €700 is a lot!!
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Also I was thinking about maybe getting an iPhone sometime in the future but damn €700 is a lot!!
WAT
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I got my iPhone 4 for $150 :D
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Also I was thinking about maybe getting an iPhone sometime in the future but damn €700 is a lot!!
WAT
Yeah. €639.99 for the 16GB version and €749.99 even for the 32GB version. Insane. The difference is that they don't come with a mobile plan.
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That's fucking insane.
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I can get the iPhone 4 right now for about $155, which is really cheap, but my mum said she will give me the iPhone as my birthday present which is in the Fall. Gotta make my mind, which iPhone I will take!!!
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Make her buy you the iphone5.
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$150?? And with what data plan does that come? Or which data plan is the cheapest? Because I know a few people that go to America a few times each year and they could bring one along if it's cheaper.. Right?
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$150?? And with what data plan does that come? Or which data plan is the cheapest? Because I know a few people that go to America a few times each year and they could bring one along if it's cheaper.. Right?
Full data. It costs the same that I pay right now with my piece of shit BlackBerry 8520 Curve. I only have Edge whereas with an iPhone I could get access to the 3G network.
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Which is how much per month, and for how long?
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https://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/16/apple-schedules-extended-retail-meetings-may-22nd/
Apple Schedules Extended Retail Meetings May 22nd Sparking Speculation About Event
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MacStories reports that Apple retail stores are holding all-hands employee meetings on Sunday, May 22nd. While it's not unusual for Apple to hold such meetings, the early timing of the meeting seems strange.
Store meetings at 7AM Sunday across United States. Unusual time. Expecting some announcement. All stores, brand-wide US. Don't know about other countries.
While there had previously been some speculation about some sort of 10th anniversary Apple retail event, we'd heard that this may simply be due to training.
Boy Genius Report also details some of the seemingly extreme measures:
- Theres an overnight shift planned for around 10-15 individuals at each Apple Store to work from late Saturday all the way through mid-Sunday.
- During the overnight shift, it's going to be required that employees lock cell phones in the main office. They will also have to sign an NDA with Apple.
- There are a wide variety of roles, we're told, for the overnight shift. This includes all visuals staff, a manager, a business team member, a few Genius team members, one back-of-house employee, and a few generic Apple specialists.
- Apple stores have apparently already received hardware to install, and are expecting more hardware to come on Friday or Saturday. All materials that Apple stores have received have been instructed to be under lock and key until after close on Saturday night.
- Apple employees will be putting up black curtains at all stores so that people walking outside cannot see inside.
- Employees have had to download gigabytes of data from Apple corporate labeled, "training" in a password-protected zipped folder that won't accessible to managers or anyone else until Saturday afternoon.
- Lastly, all Apple retail stores have mandatory meetings on Sunday, May 22nd. Most meeting are scheduled for the morning, but there are evening meetings as well.
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They're all going to have to make a human centiPad.
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How silly of them... the world will end on the 21st.
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How silly of them... the world will end on the 21st.
:D
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https://venturebeat.com/2011/05/17/nypl-biblion-ipad-app/
New York Public Library brings history to your fingertips with Biblion for iPad
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The New York Public Library is beginning to embrace tablets in a big way, starting today with the launch of its new iPad app, “Biblion: The Boundless Library.”
Available for free, the first edition of the Biblion app features over 700 items from the library’s 1939-1940 New York World’s Fair collection. The Library is aiming to open up the wealth of its research collections to the public, so we can expect updates to the app with more collections in the future. Biblion is just one of three major iPad apps that NYPL is planning (more on that below).
Given that NYPL is celebrating its centennial this year with its “Find the Future” exhibition, the Library’s wholehearted embrace of the iPad is particularly fitting.
Biblion acts the way you’d expect: It takes full advantage of the iPad’s touchscreen and doesn’t shy away from sexy visual flourishes. Documents, pictures, and other content in the app is presented in a metaphorical way based on the Library’s stacks. The end result is an app that’s a joy to flip through.
The Biblion app was developed together with design firm Potion, and surprisingly, this is their first mobile app. The firm has developed interactive experiences for museums and other locations. That may just be one of the reasons Biblion feels so fresh. It’s clear that Potion isn’t just another mobile development firm, instead they’ve managed to incorporate their diverse work and experience into the app, helping it to feel truly original. Potion and NYPL have been collaborating on the app for the past five months, with the last month focused on its development.
As part of its centennial, NYPL is planning to launch another app later this week for its Find the Future game. NYPL is also working to release a third app over the summer that will collect a patron’s entire library experience, for example, checking on their account and reserving books. The library tells me it isn’t planning on Android apps anytime soon.
A web version of the Biblion app is also expected to launch this summer, though it obviously won’t have the multitouch features of the iPad app. Instead, the library says the Web version will likely have deeper references into its collection.
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https://gizmodo.com/5803498/apple-to-customer-service-dont-help-our-customers-with-malware
You'd like to think that customer service is out to serve the customers (you), right? Not exactly! After an unusually broad spread of Mac Defender, a piece of OS X malware, Apple is telling customers they're on their own.
The order, straight from an internal memo to Apple's customer support reps, states the following "Not our problem, sucker" rules:
AppleCare does not provide support for removal of the malware. You should not confirm or deny whether the customer's Mac is infected or not.
Should not confirm or deny? Intentionally leaving a customer in the dark as to whether their computer has a virus seems pretty low. But is this next part lower? Hmm:
Do not attempt to remove or uninstall any malware software.
Do not send any escalations or contact Tier 2 for support about removing the software, or provide impact data.
Do not refer customers to the Apple Retail Store. The ARS does not provide any additional support for malware.
So even if a customer is sure their computer's infected, Apple wants nothing to do with these malware lepers. Keep 'em off the support lines, keep 'em out of the stores. This doesn't seem like a great precedent to set for malicious code landing on Macs.
Very nice, Apple.
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I thought macs don't get viruses.
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:neverusethis:
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It's not a virus. There has been malware here and there for years. But you have to go out of your way to install it just like this one. You would have to be a moron to install this one.
Someone posted this on another forum and it sums it up perfectly.
May 19, 2011 03:38 PM
GFLPraxis
It's somewhat ironic, in a way, that the only Mac "virus" (trojan, not virus) will only get people who manually install it because they think they need an antivirus on a Mac.
Expect waves of people proclaiming that Macs have viruses too, etc etc, when this is actually just crapware that the user has to install.
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I can get them not wanting to "confirm or deny", but at least remove it.
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Most viruses and malware come from things that people download and install of their own volition, I don't see why that means Apple shouldn't fix it.
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They roll out security updates all the time and nobody knows why. They are always working to protect against this shit. It's just one got through. It will be fixed with the next update most likely. About 2 years ago there was something very similar to this where you had to install a software package yourself in order to install malware. It was fixed shortly after.
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But once again, why wouldn't they fix it? If you bill your product as being ultra-safe, virus free, and idiot-proof you should own up to it.
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But once again, why wouldn't they fix it? If you bill your product as being ultra-safe, virus free, and idiot-proof you should own up to it.
they said they are working on fixing it.
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They specifically instructed their tech support not to touch it and not even tell the user if there was something wrong with it. I mean, wtf?
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I'm curious as to why people think that a company should be responsible to help fix an issue that a customer caused? If I accidentally put diesel fuel in my car, it's not like Nissan would fix it for me. Now if the customer is paying for the tech support they should help.
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I'm curious as to why people think that a company should be responsible to help fix an issue that a customer caused? If I accidentally put diesel fuel in my car, it's not like Nissan would fix it for me. Now if the customer is paying for the tech support they should help.
I assumed customers had to pay for most Apple tech support, depending on the issue. It just seems weird for them to not address it at all.
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I know what you mean. But what I'm saying is there could be a fix very soon so instead of talking about it they are going to fix it and pretend it never happened.
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Steve Jobs works in mysterious ways.
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I feel like Apple tech support is just someone on the phone going "Take it to the Genius Bar".
And in the incredibly rare off-chance that I actually possess a Mac in the future, are they easy to work on if something goes wrong or would I end up getting frustrated if most of the default responses to problems are "send it to us to fix, for a fee"? I only say this because everyone I know who has had a Mac has always sent it in to Apple or gone to an Apple store whenever there was a problem with their computer. It made me wonder if the damn things are impossible to fix as a customer.
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I've been "Working on" macs for about a decade now. At my old job for the last 10 years i was the mac guy for any problems and questions. Honestly it depends on the problem but most of the time i was able to fix the problem or at least diagnose it. If it's software related, i can almost always fix it. I don't see it as any more difficult than a PC. To me it's easier but that's because i know the ins and outs of macs a lot more. I am kind of lost when it comes to PC's. If you can fix a PC you can probably fix a mac. A simple google search usually helps.
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This actually makes total sense:
https://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/05/19/apple.religion/index.html
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Well it's less harmful than most other religions. LONG LIVE APPLE! :angel:
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The question is, what happens to Apple fans after the Rapture?
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We're the ones that are getting raptured, silly. God is a Mac user.
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We're the ones that are getting raptured, silly. God is a Mac user.
He's not:
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/rapture
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That was amazing.
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Well it's less harmful than most other religions.
I smell a hypocrite...
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Well it's less harmful than most other religions.
I smell a hypocrite...
In what way?
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Wow! This is pretty awesome.
https://www.tipb.com/2011/05/20/att-shows-lightning-fast-lte-network-future-iphone-4g/
AT&T shows off lightning fast LTE network for future 4G iPhone
(https://www.tipb.com/images/stories/2011/04/lte_iphone_6_concept-207x400.jpg)
AT&T shows off lightning fast LTE network for future 4G iPhone
GigaOM was able to play around with the trial LTE network that AT&T has setup at their Foundry space in Plano, TX, which just might be used by iPhone 6 in 2012. They were able to reach blazingly fast speeds, beating out Verizon’s LTE performance without a hitch.
the highlight of the lab was that the Foundry is home to a trial Long Term Evolution network. I asked for a demo and got one. The speeds provided on the download side were about 28.87 Mbps, and were about 10.4 Mbps on the upload side.
The technology behind their test LTE network consists of both 700 MHz spectrum as well as the AWS band they already own (and want to get more of by purchasing T-Mobile USA).
Keep in mind that AT&T’s LTE network isn’t going to see the light of day for some time, but it’s also important to note the speeds they saw were reflective of ‘real-world’ performance. By comparison, Verizon users see on average ~10Mbps down and ~5Mbps up, so that’s a pretty significant difference in speed.
Are you excited as we are to see the iPhone taking advantage of these 4G speeds on AT&T’s network down the road? And will the new network finally bring with it reliability to match?
[GigaOM]
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I'm not excited because they should've had 4G on the iPhone I bought a year ago.
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Why? It's barely anywhere right now and it's a battery hog. Next year it wil be in a lot more places and the tech will be better.
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I used to want a Mac back when I had like two friends with them who loved them because they never had virus or hardware issues.
Then a couple of years went bye and I suddenly knew tons of people with Macs. They, like me, seemed to have the same rate of luck with their Macs as I do with my PC laptops. And a friend of mine just paid a genius like $500 to fix a problem his Mac was having with its fan.
I don't hate Macs or anything, but the more I'm seeing them around the more I'm starting to notice the cracks, that they're not really worth the price-tag.
I've had my laptop for like 4 years now and it's starting to crash more often and show other signs of weakness though, so I'm wondering what to get next.
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I've been considering a mac for a little while purely because I need to use unix based software. I'm currently having a battle in my head as to whether to put together a hackintosh or just buy a laptop and ubuntu it instead...
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I used to want a Mac back when I had like two friends with them who loved them because they never had virus or hardware issues.
Then a couple of years went bye and I suddenly knew tons of people with Macs. They, like me, seemed to have the same rate of luck with their Macs as I do with my PC laptops. And a friend of mine just paid a genius like $500 to fix a problem his Mac was having with its fan.
I don't hate Macs or anything, but the more I'm seeing them around the more I'm starting to notice the cracks, that they're not really worth the price-tag.
I've had my laptop for like 4 years now and it's starting to crash more often and show other signs of weakness though, so I'm wondering what to get next.
Worth the price tag for me and many others.
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I used to want a Mac back when I had like two friends with them who loved them because they never had virus or hardware issues.
Then a couple of years went bye and I suddenly knew tons of people with Macs. They, like me, seemed to have the same rate of luck with their Macs as I do with my PC laptops. And a friend of mine just paid a genius like $500 to fix a problem his Mac was having with its fan.
I don't hate Macs or anything, but the more I'm seeing them around the more I'm starting to notice the cracks, that they're not really worth the price-tag.
I've had my laptop for like 4 years now and it's starting to crash more often and show other signs of weakness though, so I'm wondering what to get next.
Worth the price tag for me and many others.
For what, though?
I'm not trying to troll people in the thread who actually like Macs, but as someone who's occasionally flirted with the idea of getting on I find that the more I learn about them, the harder and harder it'll be to actually sell me on 'em.
And, I always liked the no virus' thing. But since the initial selling point for me was the hardware and customer service, which seem to be getting worse, I'm not sure what would be the point of getting on now.
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We're the ones that are getting raptured, silly. God is a Mac user.
He's not:
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/rapture
I remember BonziBuddy
That shit ruins your computer
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I used to want a Mac back when I had like two friends with them who loved them because they never had virus or hardware issues.
Then a couple of years went bye and I suddenly knew tons of people with Macs. They, like me, seemed to have the same rate of luck with their Macs as I do with my PC laptops. And a friend of mine just paid a genius like $500 to fix a problem his Mac was having with its fan.
I don't hate Macs or anything, but the more I'm seeing them around the more I'm starting to notice the cracks, that they're not really worth the price-tag.
I've had my laptop for like 4 years now and it's starting to crash more often and show other signs of weakness though, so I'm wondering what to get next.
Worth the price tag for me and many others.
For what, though?
I'm not trying to troll people in the thread who actually like Macs, but as someone who's occasionally flirted with the idea of getting on I find that the more I learn about them, the harder and harder it'll be to actually sell me on 'em.
And, I always liked the no virus' thing. But since the initial selling point for me was the hardware and customer service, which seem to be getting worse, I'm not sure what would be the point of getting on now.
I COULD list all the reasons why I only use macs and have been since 2000 but it seems like you already have a negative opinion which is fine. Macs aren't for everyone and thank god they arent.
While I'm happy the company is doing well I do miss the old days a little bit, before apple was so huge. It's weird cause I root for them but feel this way too lol.
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I used to want a Mac back when I had like two friends with them who loved them because they never had virus or hardware issues.
Then a couple of years went bye and I suddenly knew tons of people with Macs. They, like me, seemed to have the same rate of luck with their Macs as I do with my PC laptops. And a friend of mine just paid a genius like $500 to fix a problem his Mac was having with its fan.
I don't hate Macs or anything, but the more I'm seeing them around the more I'm starting to notice the cracks, that they're not really worth the price-tag.
I've had my laptop for like 4 years now and it's starting to crash more often and show other signs of weakness though, so I'm wondering what to get next.
Worth the price tag for me and many others.
For what, though?
I'm not trying to troll people in the thread who actually like Macs, but as someone who's occasionally flirted with the idea of getting on I find that the more I learn about them, the harder and harder it'll be to actually sell me on 'em.
And, I always liked the no virus' thing. But since the initial selling point for me was the hardware and customer service, which seem to be getting worse, I'm not sure what would be the point of getting on now.
I COULD list all the reasons why I only use macs and have been since 2000 but it seems like you already have a negative opinion which is fine. Macs aren't for everyone and thank god they arent.
While I'm happy the company is doing well I do miss the old days a little bit, before apple was so huge. It's weird cause I root for them but feel this way too lol.
lol
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It's because you like the feeling of elitism that comes with being a Mac user.
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It's because you like the feeling of elitism that comes with being a Mac user.
Nope
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It's because you like the feeling of elitism that comes with being a Mac user.
Nope
Macs aren't for everyone and thank god they arent.
Yeah dude, pretty much.
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It's because you like the feeling of elitism that comes with being a Mac user.
Nope
Macs aren't for everyone and thank god they arent.
Yeah dude, pretty much.
I don't understand.... Why does everything have to be for everyone? I'm also glad DT isn't for everyone. Doesn't have anything to do with elitism.
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also
(https://edibleapple.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/steve-jobs-motorcycle_bmw.jpg)
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I don't understand.... Why does everything have to be for everyone? I'm also glad DT isn't for everyone. Doesn't have anything to do with elitism.
It actually does come across like someone that likes being part of something exclusive. Very much so.
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I don't understand.... Why does everything have to be for everyone? I'm also glad DT isn't for everyone. Doesn't have anything to do with elitism.
I'm not saying you're an elitist in an accusatory way. It's just human nature.
We all want to be unique, but I'd argue that it goes a little further than that. Not only do we want to set ourselves apart from others, but we want to do that in a way that makes us feel better about ourselves. That why hipsters exist and why we all brag about using the lesser used computer or OS, listening to obscure music, watching cult films, wearing certain clothing, and the list goes on. We aren't just different; we're better.
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Sooo what came of the whole morning meetings and black drapes rumor thing?
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Macs aren't for everyone and thank god they arent.
What does that mean?
And I asked an honest question. I deserve more than the typical "you already have a negative opinion and are too stubborn to change your mind" fanboi reply.
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Macs aren't for everyone and thank god they arent.
What does that mean?
And I asked an honest question. I deserve more than the typical "you already have a negative opinion and are too stubborn to change your mind" fanboi reply.
You already said they aren't worth the price. What am I supposed to say to that? That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
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Macs aren't for everyone and thank god they arent.
What does that mean?
And I asked an honest question. I deserve more than the typical "you already have a negative opinion and are too stubborn to change your mind" fanboi reply.
You already said they aren't worth the price. What am I supposed to say to that? That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
So, aside from hardware, customer service (both which, as I've said, aren't really better than a PC as long as the customer does their research on what they're buying first) and usually not getting viruses (which are for n00bs who just click whatever pops up on their way to googling porno anyway), what makes the Mac worthwhile (aside from being able to say 'lol, I have something no-one else can afford')?
I guess it's just about liking the OS now? That's it?
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Ok i'll give you why I use macs. Obviously other people will see this differently but whatever. Like most people i started off using pc's through the 90's. I used them in school and learned how to type on them. My computer experience up until i was 19 was purely windows based. I had a windows computer in my room and didn't think much about apple because in the 90's apple was pretty much bullshit. Steve Jobs wasn't there and it was run by people that didn't know what they were doing. Allowing mac clones, etc.
The first time i used a mac was in 2000. It was in a music studio. Logic 4 was pretty new and a lot of my favorite producers were using it so i wanted to try it. Let's just say that using OS9 was a big difference than using windows. I loved it. I thought the operating system was so much simpler and easier to use and i could get things done a lot faster. I loved how each computer i would use would always seem to have the same connections. Firewire, usb, ethernet, and even dvd players!. Macs had them all. My experience with PC's were mostly lower end that at the time didn't have a lot of this stuff. I also loved the simplicity of the mouse. I found that with the mouse and key commands i could get a lot of the music work i was doing done very fast. OS9 still had issues just like windows did. It crashed, it was a pain sometimes but i started to prefer it over windows. Then OSX came out. I was sold. Instantly things were running faster and i didn't need drivers for any of the audio equipment. I would hook a printer up and it worked, no installing. Hook a firewire device up and it started working. I started to notice... hey this isn't crashing like OS9 would!
I bought my first mac computer in 2001. It was a powerbook g4. Man i was happy it had a CD burner and a DVD player! It was blazing fast and i would make all kinds of music on it in my room at night in Logic. I loved to never happy to put a piece of anti virus software on it. Never having to worry about getting viruses or any of the bullshit that came with windows. There was something to this unix based system that really seemed to be solid and secure. Having a very small market share also was a huge advantage. Apple was the little guy at the time, the underdog. I liked being part of that and i loved the user experience i was having.
I've watched Apple grow from the underdog to big the biggest tech company in the world. Surpassing even microsoft. It's truly amazing what steve jobs was able to do in such little time. With the ipod being the first wave and then the Iphone in 2007 and now the iPad... He's a fucking genius plain and simple. I have faith in steve Jobs and the company that's why i buy their products. I believe in the company. I believe that they are actively trying to give the user the best experience possible while at the same time making a profit. I don't see most other companies that way. Apple makes high end products and i believe you get what you pay for. For example just Look at the the design of the macbook pro's. It's incredible. The engineering is second to none. Their products are beautiful and work wonderfully. Please watch this for an example of the engineering i'm talking about...
https://www.apple.com/macbookpro/#video
What i really love is how all of their products integrate with one another. If you have a mac it's going to work perfectly with any other apple products. I use Air play all the time from my computer, or ipad to the apple tv. I'm wireless syncing at the point of change with mobile me. You turn a mac on and it has this great software to go stuff done with. iMovie, iphoto, itunes, and garageband all come loaded on their and these products are fantastic. They also integrate well with all other apple products. I like knowing that things are going to work with each other and i don't have to worry about extensions or drivers etc.
A BIG thing for me is stability. I DJ every weekend. I've had this computer for 2 and a half years now and it hasn't crashed ONCE. I can't have a crash while performing. YOU COUDN'T PAY ME to use anything else. I don't know if you know the artist Deadmau5 but i had a meeting with his partner one time and he told me that they did everything on PC's because that's what Deadmau5 was familiar with. I noticed once he started touring he was ONLY use macs. Then i noticed every pro DJ I saw was only using macs. This isn't some "Cool." thing. It's because the stability and security right now are top notch and people need reliable machines. Now in Deadmau5's studio he's got macs galore. The key is he knew that he had to use on on the road. With the release of Lion coming out OSX is only getting better. I'm very excited to see the finished product. Actually i love it so much I'm going to school because i would love one day to be able to work on OSX for apple, or any other Apple product really but i love the OS.
So to sum all of this up i love the stability, security, ease of use, design, integration, and stress free lifestyle that macs provide me. I would imagine a user switching for the first time might be confused by after a while it will become so easy you'll wonder how you went so long without one. This exact scenario happened to every family I have and most of my friends. --- That's not made up. :metal Are they perfect? No. What company or product is? But are they the best and worth the money? Well to me they most definitely are.
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:tup
Said it better than I ever could.
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What i really love is how all of their products integrate with one another.
Ironically, that's one of the biggest turn offs of Apple products for me.
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What i really love is how all of their products integrate with one another.
Ironically, that's one of the biggest turn offs of Apple products for me.
That's EXACTLY why i said a few posts ago.. "Mac's aren't for everyone." Which got taken as i was being elitist. I was simply trying to say that the way Apple does things isn't for everyone, obviously not for you. So be it.
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What i really love is how all of their products integrate with one another.
Ironically, that's one of the biggest turn offs of Apple products for me.
What so bad about a company's products all working together flawlessly?
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It's wonderful and dandy that it all works properly, but in their case it also means you have to buy all of their proprietary bullshit for everything you want to do.
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It's wonderful and dandy that it all works properly, but in their case it also means you have to buy all of their proprietary bullshit for everything you want to do.
But it's not like their products only work exclusively with each other. I own an ipod touch, and have an ipad shipping tomorrow. Both of which I plan on using with a PC.
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Thanks for sharing, tjan. I guess at the end of the day, I don't really use the computer enough to justify a Mac. I do see what Sigz is getting at, though. One big turn off for me is how Macs have this sort of ecosystem you need to get into, especially because I don't see the point of half of those things are. Basically, it comes down to this: if I could spend around $1500 for a decent laptop PC, and e-reader, a smart phone OR $3,500(?) for a Macbook, iPad, and iPhone, I still wouldn't feel justified. Even though I'd like to be able to make music on my computer just as much as the next guy.
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It's wonderful and dandy that it all works properly, but in their case it also means you have to buy all of their proprietary bullshit for everything you want to do.
But it's not like their products only work exclusively with each other. I own an ipod touch, and have an ipad shipping tomorrow. Both of which I plan on using with a PC.
I think he was implying that Apple products such as iPods work much better with a Mac, and with a PC, there's a greater potential for problems. Which is true. I had numerous issues with iTunes back when I had a PC. Since I've had a Mac, not a single one of those problems has resurfaced.
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It's wonderful and dandy that it all works properly, but in their case it also means you have to buy all of their proprietary bullshit for everything you want to do.
But it's not like their products only work exclusively with each other. I own an ipod touch, and have an ipad shipping tomorrow. Both of which I plan on using with a PC.
I think he was implying that Apple products such as iPods work much better with a Mac, and with a PC, there's a greater potential to run into problems. Which is true. I had numerous issues with iTunes back when I had a PC. Since I've had a Mac, not a single one of those problems has resurfaced.
But at last they give you the option to do that. Can you hook up a zune to a mac? I'm not baiting, I'm seriously asking.
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Sooo what came of the whole morning meetings and black drapes rumor thing?
Anyone?
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@Chino, I have no idea.
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It's wonderful and dandy that it all works properly, but in their case it also means you have to buy all of their proprietary bullshit for everything you want to do.
But it's not like their products only work exclusively with each other. I own an ipod touch, and have an ipad shipping tomorrow. Both of which I plan on using with a PC.
I think he was implying that Apple products such as iPods work much better with a Mac, and with a PC, there's a greater potential to run into problems. Which is true. I had numerous issues with iTunes back when I had a PC. Since I've had a Mac, not a single one of those problems has resurfaced.
But at last they give you the option to do that. Can you hook up a zune to a mac? I'm not baiting, I'm seriously asking.
It's a bit of a work around (one console command) but you can using "Windows Phone 7 Connector For Mac".
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Sooo what came of the whole morning meetings and black drapes rumor thing?
Anyone?
They redid the Apple Store. They replaced all the paper signage with iPad 2's that display information on the adjacent product. That's...pretty much it.
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Sooo what came of the whole morning meetings and black drapes rumor thing?
Anyone?
They redid the Apple Store. They replaced all the paper signage with iPad 2's that display information on the adjacent product. That's...pretty much it.
lame
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It's wonderful and dandy that it all works properly, but in their case it also means you have to buy all of their proprietary bullshit for everything you want to do.
But it's not like their products only work exclusively with each other. I own an ipod touch, and have an ipad shipping tomorrow. Both of which I plan on using with a PC.
I think he was implying that Apple products such as iPods work much better with a Mac, and with a PC, there's a greater potential for problems. Which is true. I had numerous issues with iTunes back when I had a PC. Since I've had a Mac, not a single one of those problems has resurfaced.
Not just how well it works, but whether it even works at all. Case in point: the original iphones (don't know about the new ones) having that recessed headphone jack that meant you could only use apple headphones with them.
The very fact that you pretty much have to use itunes with an ipod is just a massive pain the ass. I can take my zen, use any USB mini-b cable (which pretty much everyone has cause they're used for everything), plug it in, and drag whatever the hell I want onto it from any computer I want. I routinely have friends who can't plug their ipod into any other computer cause itunes sync might wipe the entire thing or they don't have the proprietary cable. It's retarded.
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The headphone thing was a mistake they fixed in the second iPhone back in 08. An example of them not being perfect. Also you can use third party software. You don't have to use iTunes.
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The headphone thing was a mistake they fixed in the second iPhone back in 08. An example of them not being perfect. Also you can use third party software. You don't have to use iTunes.
Which others can you use?
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The headphone thing was a mistake they fixed in the second iPhone back in 08. An example of them not being perfect. Also you can use third party software. You don't have to use iTunes.
Which others can you use?
Winamp works. The day I realized that was extremely gratifying.
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The headphone thing was a mistake they fixed in the second iPhone back in 08. An example of them not being perfect. Also you can use third party software. You don't have to use iTunes.
Which others can you use?
try this...
https://download.cnet.com/iPod-Agent/3000-2169_4-10338208.html
or this..
https://www.foobar2000.org/
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(https://i.imgur.com/kcdFh.png)
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lol
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So, I want to buy a new laptop. I've heard lots of people say Macbooks are really awesome. Now, I was wondering, what makes a Macbook so special that people pay 1200 euros for it when they can get an Asus laptop with essentially the same specifications for 600 euros?
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lolwut?
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So, I want to buy a new laptop. I've heard lots of people say Macbooks are really awesome. Now, I was wondering, what makes a Macbook so special that people pay 1200 euros for it when they can get an Asus laptop with essentially the same specifications for 600 euros?
wait wait wait. Did i write all of that for NOTHiNG! lol.
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So, I want to buy a new laptop. I've heard lots of people say Macbooks are really awesome. Now, I was wondering, what makes a Macbook so special that people pay 1200 euros for it when they can get an Asus laptop with essentially the same specifications for 600 euros?
Design, durability, build quality, tech support, OS, elitism, ... but mostly personal preference.
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Some cool apple news...
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/26/some-icloud-music-service-details-others-companies-likely-to-follow/
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Businessweek provides an overview of how Apple's music service might compare to the recent services launched by Google and Amazon. Notably, Apple is taking the time and spending the money to reach agreements with the major music labels to support the service.
Amazon reportedly didn't even try prior to their cloud music launch, while Google's talks broke down after a year of negotiation. Both existing services are limited due to the lack of licenses. Label executives are said to have been negotiating "aggressively" to make sure they profit from the shift to the cloud.
Businessweek is able to describe what the service will look like based on those familiar with the negotiations:
Armed with licenses from the music labels and publishers, Apple will be able to scan customers' digital music libraries in iTunes and quickly mirror their collections on its own servers, say three people briefed on the talks. If the sound quality of a particular song on a user's hard drive isn't good enough, Apple will be able to replace it with a higher-quality version. Users of the service will then be able to stream, whenever they want, their songs and albums directly to PCs, iPhones, iPads, and perhaps one day even cars.
It's not clear how Apple intends to pay for and charge for the service. The licenses will reportedly cost a lot, and Apple will have to pass those charges to the customer in some form.
According to Businessweek, many are waiting to see what Apple can accomplish as labels expect that once Apple's service launches, others will soon follow with similarly licensed services.
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So, I want to buy a new laptop. I've heard lots of people say Macbooks are really awesome. Now, I was wondering, what makes a Macbook so special that people pay 1200 euros for it when they can get an Asus laptop with essentially the same specifications for 600 euros?
wait wait wait. Did i write all of that for NOTHiNG! lol.
Yeah I read that, and it comes down to ease of use, security, stability and durability. But since I've used Windows 7, it's only crashed on me once over the course of 2 years and I've never had a virus/spyware. As for the durability, when looking at the statistics of laptop failure rates, Asus, Toshiba and Sony do better than Apple. And for me personally, Windows is easier to use because I've used it for years.
So, yeah, I guess it's mostly personal preference then.
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So, I want to buy a new laptop. I've heard lots of people say Macbooks are really awesome. Now, I was wondering, what makes a Macbook so special that people pay 1200 euros for it when they can get an Asus laptop with essentially the same specifications for 600 euros?
wait wait wait. Did i write all of that for NOTHiNG! lol.
Yeah I read that, and it comes down to ease of use, security, stability and durability. But since I've used Windows 7, it's only crashed on me once over the course of 2 years and I've never had a virus/spyware. As for the durability, when looking at the statistics of laptop failure rates, Asus, Toshiba and Sony do better than Apple. And for me personally, Windows is easier to use because I've used it for years.
So, yeah, I guess it's mostly personal preference then.
well the mac laptops were tops again in consumer reports this year. So there's that.
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So, I want to buy a new laptop. I've heard lots of people say Macbooks are really awesome. Now, I was wondering, what makes a Macbook so special that people pay 1200 euros for it when they can get an Asus laptop with essentially the same specifications for 600 euros?
wait wait wait. Did i write all of that for NOTHiNG! lol.
Yeah I read that, and it comes down to ease of use, security, stability and durability. But since I've used Windows 7, it's only crashed on me once over the course of 2 years and I've never had a virus/spyware. As for the durability, when looking at the statistics of laptop failure rates, Asus, Toshiba and Sony do better than Apple. And for me personally, Windows is easier to use because I've used it for years.
So, yeah, I guess it's mostly personal preference then.
well the mac laptops were tops again in consumer reports this year. So there's that.
I saw that, it's one of the reasons why I was wondering what makes Macbooks so great. But aside from personal preference, I still don't see how they're objectively better than a much cheaper Windows laptop.
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I prefer the OSX to Windows by miles (and I'd worked exclusively with Windows up until I got my macbook last September), it also comes with amazing software, and I know some people who have had their macbook last them for four or five years and counting, and it's still useable. I don't know anyone who is still intensively using a four-year old windows laptop daily.
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The only reason most people get new windows laptops like that is because most people have no idea how to keep their computer clean. If you have even a basic knowledge of how to maintain a windows setup there's really no reason to get a mac besides personal preference or for some specific function.
Not to mention that even if you do buy a new laptop five years later you've still only spent as much as you would have for a macbook :lol
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Have windows laptop manufacturers figured out how to make trackpad scrolling not suck dick yet? It may sound stupid but I appreciate how fluid it is on the macbook trackpads because I don't use a mouse exclusively.
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The MBP trackpad is awesome indeed. I completed portal with it.
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Very painfully I would imagine.
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Not at all.
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My ipad2 made it to Arkansas this morning. Should be here any day! :biggrin:
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Arrival via tornado.
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Have windows laptop manufacturers figured out how to make trackpad scrolling not suck dick yet? It may sound stupid but I appreciate how fluid it is on the macbook trackpads because I don't use a mouse exclusively.
I dunno, I've never had any problems with scrolling on mine. Haven't used a macbook much though so I can't really say how they compare.
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WINDOWS MAKES LAPTOPS NOW?? :splodetard:
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Have windows laptop manufacturers figured out how to make trackpad scrolling not suck dick yet? It may sound stupid but I appreciate how fluid it is on the macbook trackpads because I don't use a mouse exclusively.
I dunno, I've never had any problems with scrolling on mine. Haven't used a macbook much though so I can't really say how they compare.
That varies with manufacturer. I loved the way my HP used to scroll with the touch pad. My Toshiba was a piece of shit.
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My satisfaction with trackpads scrolling depends on the driver I have installed on my laptop.
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Have windows laptop manufacturers figured out how to make trackpad scrolling not suck dick yet? It may sound stupid but I appreciate how fluid it is on the macbook trackpads because I don't use a mouse exclusively.
I dunno, I've never had any problems with scrolling on mine. Haven't used a macbook much though so I can't really say how they compare.
That varies with manufacturer. I loved the way my HP used to scroll with the touch pad. My Toshiba was a piece of shit.
And obviously personal preference, as I have a Toshiba and don't have a problem with it.
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I don't know how big trackpads are on most other laptops, but a Macbook's trackpad is fucking huge. That's why I like it so much. There's never a danger of your finger running off of it while moving the cursor around. Unlike my Mom's Dell, which has a trackpad that's about 75% smaller.
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Does anyone here knows of a good plug-in for iTunes that allows you to download the lyrics to all the songs in your music library (so it also works in your iPod/iPhone/iTouch too)? Preferably for Windows.
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ipad just arrived :biggrin: updating itunes...
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Does anyone here knows of a good plug-in for iTunes that allows you to download the lyrics to all the songs in your music library (so it also works in your iPod/iPhone/iTouch too)? Preferably for Windows.
https://www.ipodsoft.com/site/pmwiki.php?n=IArt.HomePage
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ipad just arrived :biggrin: updating itunes...
nice! enjoy.
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Can someone explain to me why this iCloud thing is so great? I can see how it would be good for people with huge music collections that can't fit it in the storage space on their iphone, but for the vast majority of people it would be easier to just put their music on their iphone. You're not dependant on having an internet connection to access your music, and won't run into any streaming issues. Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't get the appeal. To me, the thing that would have made this great is if you could stream any music (whether you "own" it or not) for a monthly fee. Uploading music I own to a server and then getting the rights to stream it back makes no sense to me.
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YES!
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/31/steve-jobs-to-introduce-icloud-ios-5-and-mac-os-x-lion-at-wwdc-keynote/
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Apple today announced that Steve Jobs will indeed host the keynote for the company's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) next Monday in San Francisco. Aside from the expected focus on iOS 5 and Mac OS X Lion, Apple's announcement also confirms that Jobs will introduce the company's "iCloud" service.
Apple CEO Steve Jobs and a team of Apple executives will kick off the company's annual Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) with a keynote address on Monday, June 6 at 10:00 a.m. At the keynote, Apple will unveil its next generation software - Lion, the eighth major release of Mac OS X; iOS 5, the next version of Apples advanced mobile operating system which powers the iPad, iPhone and iPod touch; and iCloud, Apple's upcoming cloud services offering.
Apple last month was reported to have purchased the iCloud.com domain name, with additional reports claiming that Apple has indeed been referring to its streaming service by that name. Apple has been said to be close to wrapping up negotiations with major music labels and publishers to allow users to stream their owned music from Apple's cloud-based servers to any of a number of Internet-connected devices.
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Can someone explain to me why this iCloud thing is so great? I can see how it would be good for people with huge music collections that can't fit it in the storage space on their iphone, but for the vast majority of people it would be easier to just put their music on their iphone. You're not dependant on having an internet connection to access your music, and won't run into any streaming issues. Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't get the appeal. To me, the thing that would have made this great is if you could stream any music (whether you "own" it or not) for a monthly fee. Uploading music I own to a server and then getting the rights to stream it back makes no sense to me.
WEll it hasn't been announced yet so we really don't know what it is. We do know that Apple is the only company that has gotten the liscencing from the music companies so they will be able to do things with their cloud service that no one has right now which is a huge advantage. One of the things rumored to be true, which seems likely is the ability to NOT have to upload anything to the cloud. Basically it will scan your itunes library and match the songs you have with a music database and you'll be able to play it, no uploading necessary and you can have access to your entire library. If it's custom music that might not be in the database then you can upload it.
Having access to your entire music library everywhere you go with no uploading is very exciting i think.
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I don't want to be in a position where I need Internet access to listen to music.
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I don't want to be in a position where I need Internet access to listen to music.
Well then don't use it! I would welcome it, i have internet access at all times.
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I still don't get it. So there's no uploading... it's still the same thing. I purchase music and then have the right to stream it from anywhere. I already have access to my entire music library everywhere I go. It's on my ipod. Sure, I have to sync it to my computer or download the music directly from itunes, but so what? It takes a few seconds. I just don't get why this would have widespread appeal apart from people with huge music collections or people who listen to music on several different computers or mobile devices on a regular basis.
Well then don't use it! I would welcome it, i have internet access at all times.
Explain to me why you'd rather stream it than just listen directly off your iphone.
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I still don't get it. So there's no uploading... it's still the same thing. I purchase music and then have the right to stream it from anywhere. I already have access to my entire music library everywhere I go. It's on my ipod. Sure, I have to sync it to my computer or download the music directly from itunes, but so what? It takes a few seconds. I just don't get why this would have widespread appeal apart from people with huge music collections or people who listen to music on several different computers or mobile devices on a regular basis.
Well then don't use it! I would welcome it, i have internet access at all times.
Explain to me why you're rather stream it than just listen directly off your iphone.
Ok my itunes library is 127 gigs. My iphone is 32 gigs. I use about 20 of it for music. I have my iPhone on me at All times. If i could have access to all of my 127 gigs at all times without having to worry about space or syncing or buying another mp3 player, etc.. that seems pretty cool. Every company is going to offer this service. Amazon and google do already it's just they don't have licensing with the companies so their services are very limited.
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So you fall into the category of a person with a huge music collection. I understand why this would apply to you. I just don't get the widespread appeal. Maybe I underestimate the average person's music collection, but I would guess it would easily fit on a 32 GB phone. I would guess within several years phones will be able to have terrabytes of data on them for similar prices to today's phones and memory is getting cheaper all the time.
I don't know. Call me crazy, but I'd rather not have to stream my music. The quality wouldn't be as good and I'd be at the whims of my internet connection.
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First post from m iPad. This thing is much easier to type on than I thought it would be. I can actually type really fast and easily on it. I'm shocked.
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Missed a spot.
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So you fall into the category of a person with a huge music collection. I understand why this would apply to you. I just don't get the widespread appeal. Maybe I underestimate the average person's music collection, but I would guess it would easily fit on a 32 GB phone. I would guess within several years phones will be able to have terrabytes of data on them for similar prices to today's phones and memory is getting cheaper all the time.
I don't know. Call me crazy, but I'd rather not have to stream my music. The quality wouldn't be as good and I'd be at the whims of my internet connection.
you don't HAVE to stream music. You can still put music on as normal.
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Missed a spot.
lol!
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So you fall into the category of a person with a huge music collection. I understand why this would apply to you. I just don't get the widespread appeal. Maybe I underestimate the average person's music collection, but I would guess it would easily fit on a 32 GB phone. I would guess within several years phones will be able to have terrabytes of data on them for similar prices to today's phones and memory is getting cheaper all the time.
I don't know. Call me crazy, but I'd rather not have to stream my music. The quality wouldn't be as good and I'd be at the whims of my internet connection.
you don't HAVE to stream music. You can still put music on as normal.
I know. Just curious if there was a huge benefit to it that I was missing. Doesn't sound like it.
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So you fall into the category of a person with a huge music collection. I understand why this would apply to you. I just don't get the widespread appeal. Maybe I underestimate the average person's music collection, but I would guess it would easily fit on a 32 GB phone. I would guess within several years phones will be able to have terrabytes of data on them for similar prices to today's phones and memory is getting cheaper all the time.
I don't know. Call me crazy, but I'd rather not have to stream my music. The quality wouldn't be as good and I'd be at the whims of my internet connection.
you don't HAVE to stream music. You can still put music on as normal.
I know. Just curious if there was a huge benefit to it that I was missing. Doesn't sound like it.
I guess we'll have to see what it really is next tuesday. No one has any real knowledge right now.
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I guess we'll have to see what it really is next tuesday. No one has any real knowledge right now.
Yep. I really hope it's much bigger and better than people are predicting. Paying a monthly fee to be able to stream any song would be awesome. I've been waiting for that for a long time. Hopefully if the predictions are true, it's just a stepping stone for this.
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Let me go into a bit more detail: I have a large music collection and I am against the idea of a cloud.
First of all, streaming media from online right now is not perfect. No matter how good your network is, there will always be hiccups (likely caused by buffering). Even if it's only for five seconds, it still means a disruption in the flow of my music.
Second, what if I'm in a building or going through a tunnel where I can't get service on my phone? That isn't all that uncommon. Guess that means I can't listen to music then, either.
And lastly, why would I want to pay for a subscription to access music? (I'm assuming that's how they'll do it.) Right now when I walk down the street listening to music or if I'm on my laptop, I do so for free. The last thing I need or want is another bill for something that previously wouldn't cost me anything.
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Let me go into a bit more detail: I have a large music collection and I am against the idea of a cloud.
First of all, streaming media from online right now is not perfect. No matter how good your network is, there will always be hiccups (likely caused by buffering). Even if it's only for five seconds, it still means a disruption in the flow of my music.
Second, what if I'm in a building or going through a tunnel where I can't get service on my phone? That isn't all that uncommon. Guess that means I can't listen to music then, either.
And lastly, why would I want to pay for a subscription to access music? (I'm assuming that's how they'll do it.) Right now when I walk down the street listening to music or if I'm on my laptop, I do so for free. The last thing I need or want is another bill for something that previously wouldn't cost me anything.
Like i said we don't know how this is all going to work. And when it comes out if you don't want it then don't buy it! some people will want it, some won't.
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I guess we'll have to see what it really is next tuesday. No one has any real knowledge right now.
Yep. I really hope it's much bigger and better than people are predicting. Paying a monthly fee to be able to stream any song would be awesome. I've been waiting for that for a long time. Hopefully if the predictions are true, it's just a stepping stone for this.
Rhapsody?
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I guess we'll have to see what it really is next tuesday. No one has any real knowledge right now.
Yep. I really hope it's much bigger and better than people are predicting. Paying a monthly fee to be able to stream any song would be awesome. I've been waiting for that for a long time. Hopefully if the predictions are true, it's just a stepping stone for this.
Rhapsody?
YEah what he just described is rhapsody lol. But the iCloud thing is going to be different.
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I guess we'll have to see what it really is next tuesday. No one has any real knowledge right now.
Yep. I really hope it's much bigger and better than people are predicting. Paying a monthly fee to be able to stream any song would be awesome. I've been waiting for that for a long time. Hopefully if the predictions are true, it's just a stepping stone for this.
I'm going to assume the iphone5 will be the first apple device to access this service.
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YEah what he just described is rhapsody lol. But the iCloud thing is going to be different.
Sounds pretty close to stuff that already exists, which Apple's MO. They let everyone else do the grunt work and just market it like it's new and innovative.
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Let me go into a bit more detail: I have a large music collection and I am against the idea of a cloud.
First of all, streaming media from online right now is not perfect. No matter how good your network is, there will always be hiccups (likely caused by buffering). Even if it's only for five seconds, it still means a disruption in the flow of my music.
Second, what if I'm in a building or going through a tunnel where I can't get service on my phone? That isn't all that uncommon. Guess that means I can't listen to music then, either.
And lastly, why would I want to pay for a subscription to access music? (I'm assuming that's how they'll do it.) Right now when I walk down the street listening to music or if I'm on my laptop, I do so for free. The last thing I need or want is another bill for something that previously wouldn't cost me anything.
Like i said we don't know how this is all going to work. And when it comes out if you don't want it then don't buy it! some people will want it, some won't.
I understand that details are still scarce at this point but the argument you keep repeating "if you don't want it then don't buy it" really doesn't inspire much confidence in me. Especially if other companies start following suit.
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YEah what he just described is rhapsody lol. But the iCloud thing is going to be different.
Sounds pretty close to stuff that already exists, which Apple's MO. They let everyone else do the grunt work and just market it like it's new and innovative.
How can it sound close if we haven't heard any real details about it. Why the hell would they spend all this money and time on this project to make a clone of rhapsody? They wouldn't.
Also the thing about them not being innovative is just bullshit.
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How? They take products that already exist, shine them up and market them as if they're new.
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How? They take products that already exist, shine them up and market them as if they're new.
False. This is apple hating bias at it's worst. You can say it but it doesn't mean I can't refute it. They are the definition of innovation.
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False. This is apple hating bias at it's worst. You can say it but it doesn't mean I can't refute it.
Do so then. I can't name very many things that apple have done first. They may have codified quite alot of ideas, and may be the market leaders in just as many areas, but that requires merely good marketing, not actual innovation on the part of the company. Where apple excels is polish, not innovation.
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False. This is apple hating bias at it's worst. You can say it but it doesn't mean I can't refute it.
Do so then. I can't name very many things that apple have done first. They may have codified quite alot of ideas, and may be the market leaders in just as many areas, but that requires merely good marketing, not actual innovation on the part of the company. Where apple excels is polish, not innovation.
I think Apple are quite innovative. The computer mouse is a good example.
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False. This is apple hating bias at it's worst. You can say it but it doesn't mean I can't refute it.
Do so then. I can't name very many things that apple have done first. They may have codified quite alot of ideas, and may be the market leaders in just as many areas, but that requires merely good marketing, not actual innovation on the part of the company. Where apple excels is polish, not innovation.
I think Apple are quite innovative. The computer mouse is a good example.
Maybe in the way that they found an application for the device originally created by Xerox.
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I can't name very many things that apple have done first. They may have codified quite alot of ideas, and may be the market leaders in just as many areas, but that requires merely good marketing, not actual innovation on the part of the company. Where apple excels is polish, not innovation.
All of this.
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YEah what he just described is rhapsody lol. But the iCloud thing is going to be different.
Heh... guess I wasn't really aware of what Rhapsody was. Anyway... seemlessly combining that type of service with iTunes and the playlists I have on there and still allowing the purchase and permanent storage of music on my ipod would be ideal IMO.
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While virtually all of the recent discussion about iCloud has been about Apple securing agreements with music labels and publishers to allow users to store their purchased songs on Apple's servers for streaming to a variety of devices, CNET reports that Apple may also be racing to secure agreements for movies and TV shows in time for the service's debut. The most specific information seems to be regarding movies:
In the past several weeks, Apple executives have stepped up their attempts to convince some of the major Hollywood film studios to issue licenses that would enable Apple to store its customers' movies on the company's servers, two sources close to the negotiations told CNET. Apple began discussing a cloud service with the studios over a year ago.
The report notes that talks with film studios are ongoing, but one stumbling block appears to be the "HBO window", an agreement between the cable channel and studios Warner Brothers, 20th Century Fox, and NBC Universal that requires those studios to temporarily stop sales and distribution of their content while it is being aired on HBO. Enforcement of such an agreement on cloud services may not be acceptable to Apple and its users who expect to be able to watch their content at any time.
The studios, led by Time Warner, do however seem to believe that cloud distribution is fundamentally different from other mechanisms and thus exempt from the HBO window, although it is unclear if the issue can be cleared up in time for next week's iCloud introduction. But even without such an agreement, Apple could launch the movie portion of the service with other major studios such as Disney, Paramount, and Sony that do not have blackout arrangements with HBO.
Information on potential TV content for iCloud seems to be based on speculation at this point, with the report pointing to Apple's existing "Multi-Pass" and "Season Pass" features that have allowed users to purchase bundles of content as foundation upon which a cloud-based service could be easily built, but it is unclear what the status of any discussions to that end might be.
Rumors of Apple looking to include movies and TV in a cloud-based service are not new, but sources have generally been silent about the negotiations as attention has focused on getting music deals done.
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ok innovate means...
to introduce something new; make changes in anything established.
So basically either creating a new product or enhancing a technology is considered innovation. They do both of these things not just market them well. I hate that argument, people don't use products because of marketing. They may buy the products because of marketing but what keeps the customers are the products themselves. It's because of this that Apple is the biggest tech company in the world now when not to long ago they were in bad shape, before jobs came back.
Honestly the flaming that goes on in this thread is mind blowing. I don't go in the android or windows threads and talk shit about how they don't "innovate" or they suck, or this problem is new with android or another new problem with windows. What's the point of that?
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I don't consider enhancing or changing technology to be innovative, unless it completely changes the entire use of a product. Your definition just seems a little too broad as if when someone makes any tweak to anything it's innovation.
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Did the iPod not change the music industry? Did the iPhone not change the cellphone industry? Did the App Store not change the way we handle smartphones?
Also, there's all the little stuff they have as well. Like for example the magsafe power adaptor.
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False. This is apple hating bias at it's worst. You can say it but it doesn't mean I can't refute it.
Do so then. I can't name very many things that apple have done first. They may have codified quite alot of ideas, and may be the market leaders in just as many areas, but that requires merely good marketing, not actual innovation on the part of the company. Where apple excels is polish, not innovation.
I think Apple are quite innovative. The computer mouse is a good example.
The mouse was technologically demonstrated in the 60s and first shipped with a consumer level system with the Xerox Alto which was released 3 years before apple released their first computer and a full decade before the apple Lisa popularised the concept.
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Did the iPod not change the music industry? Did the iPhone not change the cellphone industry? Did the App Store not change the way we handle smartphones?
Also, there's all the little stuff they have as well. Like for example the magsafe power adaptor.
All of those technologies were preexisting, Apple just found a way to market it correctly.
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False. This is apple hating bias at it's worst. You can say it but it doesn't mean I can't refute it.
Do so then. I can't name very many things that apple have done first. They may have codified quite alot of ideas, and may be the market leaders in just as many areas, but that requires merely good marketing, not actual innovation on the part of the company. Where apple excels is polish, not innovation.
I think Apple are quite innovative. The computer mouse is a good example.
The mouse was technologically demonstrated in the 60s and first shipped with a consumer level system with the Xerox Alto which was released 3 years before apple has released their first computer and a full decade before the apple Lisa popularised the concept.
Well yes, and they popularized it thanks to being one of the world leaders in computer technology and stuff? I don't believe they had the means for that back then.
Did the iPod not change the music industry? Did the iPhone not change the cellphone industry? Did the App Store not change the way we handle smartphones?
Also, there's all the little stuff they have as well. Like for example the magsafe power adaptor.
All of those technologies were preexisting, Apple just found a way to market it correctly.
Then give me an example of something that is truly innovative, by your norms.
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Question of the day. I have songs unchecked on itunes, yet they still load to my ipad and are wasting space... what do I do?
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Question of the day. I have songs unchecked on itunes, yet they still load to my ipad and are wasting space... what do I do?
CHeck your sync setting on your iPad. seems like something isn't set right. Make sure you have sync only selected songs and playlists selected.
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Question of the day. I have songs unchecked on itunes, yet they still load to my ipad and are wasting space... what do I do?
CHeck your sync setting on your iPad. seems like something isn't set right. Make sure you have sync only selected songs and playlists selected.
I find that where?
*edit* found it.
Starting to wish I got the 32g model. Dream Theater and The Eagles take up half of my disk space.
Man, garage band is taking forever to download.
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What are some good apps made for the iPad?
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What are some good apps made for the iPad?
Ok well there are about 500,000 so that question is kind of difficult. It really depends on what you are into and what you want to do. I use the app ZITE every day. I don't know how i lived without it before and it's free! There are tons of great games that are all online capable like Uno, Jenga, Need for speed, madden, Tetris, Real racing, Angry Birds, etc... Once a Jailbreak is made, which should be soon you'll be able to put NES, SNES, Genesis emulators on it with all the games.
I'm currently building a Weather app for the ipad/iphone that will blow everyone them all :metal. But for now i recommend weather+ or Weather HD. I prefer WEather+ though. Some other great apps to check out are...
Movies by Flixster (This is a MUST)
Instapaper
The Adobe suite, if you use photoshop
Nagivon
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There are a ton of great educational apps, cooking apps, fitness apps, and on and on. Check out the App store. the way it's laid out is great for finding good apps.
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Classical discussion. Every six months+ Apple (in this case through iTunes) offers a new service -People say it is not innovation. What is the use of it then, some ask. Mac fans speculate because clearly no one knows exactly how it will work. The other side gets mad because they are not completely satisfied with the explanation (speculation) they just heard. Hence (somehow), Apple hasn't innovated (isn't the right word, to be fair and carry the logic established by Steve Jobs, 'revolutionized'?) anything.
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Cloud computing and streaming music services are not new. At all.
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Cloud computing and streaming music services are not new. At all.
Nobody said they were. But this new service could be something new that no one is offering, or an enhancement that no one is doing yet, maybe it won't be. We'll find out next tuesday.
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I find it hilarious how this entire thread is basically:
>TJ posts some Apple news and gets excited about it
>Orcus comes in and explains why it's not that big of a deal
>TJ and Orcus politely argue back and forth until the next piece of news is posted
>cycle repeats
>Chino occasionally chimes in about his iPad 2
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We'll find out Tuesday, but I wouldn't be surprised if only songs purchased through iTunes can be synced over the cloud. Probably a key negotiating factor with the record companies.
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I find it hilarious how this entire thread is basically:
>TJ posts some Apple news and gets excited about it
>Orcus comes in and explains why it's not that big of a deal
>TJ and Orcus politely argue back and forth until the next piece of news is posted
>cycle repeats
>Chino occasionally chimes in about his iPad 2
(https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbolohHo1x1qax0a1o1_400.jpg)
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:lol
I just had this flashfoward of a few posts from now where Chino goes:
"No seriously guys where the fucj do I get apps?
edit: shit typeo. stupid touchpad"
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:rollin
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We'll find out Tuesday, but I wouldn't be surprised if only songs purchased through iTunes can be synced over the cloud. Probably a key negotiating factor with the record companies.
Saw this on macrumors and it thought it was appropriate for this...
FYI, Lala (which Apple acquired) scanned your whole iTunes library and automatically allowed you to stream the items that matched items in their library. Anything that did not exist in their library could be uploaded and them streamed like anything else. I would be shocked if Apple's solution did anything else. Now Lala was free. I don't expect Apple's solution to be free. But if it offers this functionality via a browser and iOS app, it will be a big hit.
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https://thisguyhasmymacbook.tumblr.com/
:lol
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Cool story, but "not sure if serious" about his writing style.
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Pardon? :S
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Edited. Maybe there's a backstory I'm not getting. Or maybe he's just a crazy Apple fanatic who puts his MacBook on a pedestal.
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I don't know. I just came across the story on here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13624265
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That's amazing.
"guy staring deliriously into my Macbook" :rollin
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While funny, is that some kind of special software or is that just a built in function in macbooks? Cause if it's the latter it's pretty fucking creepy.
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While funny, is that some kind of special software or is that just a built in function in macbooks? Cause if it's the latter it's pretty fucking creepy.
Third party software..
https://hiddenapp.com/
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https://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2011/06/apple-working-on-a-sophisticated-infrared-system-for-ios-cameras.html
TLDR: Apple's got a patten for infrared tech that will, among many other things, shut down the built in camera when trying to take pictures of or film concerts.
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WAT
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It seems like there are a lot of amazing possibilities with that technology. Also, I think that not being able to photograph concerts or films isn't that bad. I mean, the band has to put out some sort of transmitter, and well if some band were to do that... It would make them pretty big douches.
I can certainly understand for museums and movies. I don't mind that at all.
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They agent stuff all the time. Odds are this will go nowhere.
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watching WWDC. So far some awesome features in new OSX.
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OMG new OSX is only 30 bucks for 5 machines! :omg:
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now doing iOS5. This is what i'm most excited about being a first time App developer. Very exciting. One of the new features besides redone notifications is twitter built into the OS system wide. Interesting.
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Steve Jobs looks terrible
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HE looks great considering HE very well could be dead.
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Have to say they haven't gotten to the music yet for iCloud and so far it's very awesome. Music is probably the thing i care the least about so i'm glad they added so much to it besides music.
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OMG new OSX is only 30 bucks for 5 machines! :omg:
Upgrade I assume?
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OMG new OSX is only 30 bucks for 5 machines! :omg:
Upgrade I assume?
It's not an incremental update like snow leopard it's a full featured upgrade. Ala 10.5. Is that what you meant?
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All 9 icloud apps free. :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Well there it was. Honestly it's better than i thought it was going to be. Was on the fence about the music thing but WOW it's really impressive and cheap. They've really taken a nice leap today. Going to buy 50 shares! I can't believe they actually pulled it off considering the music industry. I guess that 150 million dollar advance was for real.
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OMG new OSX is only 30 bucks for 5 machines! :omg:
Upgrade I assume?
It's not an incremental update like snow leopard it's a full featured upgrade. Ala 10.5. Is that what you meant?
No, as in do you have to have a previous version of OSX to take advantage of said stuff?
Actually more I think about it, only intel macs will be able to run this and they've had OSX shipped with every unit so its a moot point.
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OMG new OSX is only 30 bucks for 5 machines! :omg:
Upgrade I assume?
It's not an incremental update like snow leopard it's a full featured upgrade. Ala 10.5. Is that what you meant?
No, as in do you have to have a previous version of OSX to take advantage of said stuff?
Actually more I think about it, only intel macs will be able to run this and they've had OSX shipped with every unit so its a moot point.
Well it's a download through the mac app store now. So if you have a mac it's one click. For 30 bucks you can put it on 5 machines. Just click on it on that machine and it will install automatically. If you don't have a mac and buy a new one it will be pre installed.
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I feel like these are more like service packs than actual new operating systems. Still $30 ain't bad.
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Well there are over 250 new features and enhancements. It's not an under the hood release like 10.6 was. This is a feature and under the hood osx release. 10.5 was 129 dollars for reference so this price point plus 5 machines is insane.
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Honestly the headlines don't tell the full or even half story of what was announced today. If you are interested I would suggest watching the wwdc from today. It was awesome.
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HE looks great considering HE very well could be dead.
wat? I know he's been on medical leave and thats why I assume he looks terrible.
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I noticed they announced some more innovative features such as over the air updates.
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HE looks great considering HE very well could be dead.
wat? I know he's been on medical leave and thats why I assume he looks terrible.
He's battled cancer twice if i'm not mistaken. Lucky to be alive.
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I noticed they announced some more innovative features such as over the air updates.
Watch the WWDC. The OTA's are awesome because they use Delta Updates.
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HERE IS A LINK TO THE WWDC.
https://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/ (https://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/)
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Looks like I'd have to install Quicktime. Pass.
I'm actually just curious about this one feature my friend told me about where you can drop files onto someone else's computer nearby without the need for wifi.
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I'm about to get the beta for iOS 5 and Lion. Very excited!
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Looks like they are keeping the Siri stuff for iOS 6. Smart. Also the new keyboard enhancements for iPad are very intuitive.
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(https://i.imgur.com/KdC14.png)
lol
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Got iOS 5 on all my devices now. Using the iCloud. ;D
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Interesting benefit of the iTunes Match aspect of iCloud.
https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/07/apple-offers-music-pirates-permanent-amnesty-for-24-99/?source=cnn_bin&hpt=hp_bn3
You can basically get all of your pirated music turned into legitimately owned iTunes music. Interesting.
tjanuranus - since you're the expert, does this sound legit to you?
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That's exactly right. That's why this is so amazing that they were able to do this with the licensing.
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All those years of legally acquiring music has... meant nothing.
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All those years of legally acquiring music has... meant nothing.
No, it has because you've actually been giving the artists money rather than getting a get out of jail card via a yearly fee and some legal handwaving.
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Got iOS 5 on all my devices now. Using the iCloud. ;D
How do I get iOS 5? Do I just plug my iPhone into my Mac and it'll download automatically?
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No, just pay like $200 a year for some kind of apple developer's statute and then you can download it.. Otherwise you'll have to wait 'til Fall... Or you could convince a developer to list you as a tester.
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(https://i.imgur.com/KdC14.png)
lol
Aaahahahahaha
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No, just pay like $200 a year for some kind of apple developer's statute and then you can download it.. Otherwise you'll have to wait 'til Fall... Or you could convince a developer to list you as a tester.
Meh. I don't really care that much.
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I don't know... It looked pretty sweet.
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Yeah, but I can be patient and wait until Fall.
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I'm a registered iOS developer. That's how i got it. You need to register your UDID in order to install it so even if you got a copy of the software it probably won't install unless you have the UDID registered. BTW it's 99 a year. 200 if you are a Mac and iOS developer.
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Ack. Was going for a walk listening to music on my iPod on Sunday and the music suddenly stopped. Walked home and I guess it's broken, cause it's not turning on or charging or anything.
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You probably just need to reset it. Go to the support section of Apple's website. There's a nifty little 5-step process that has always helped me when I have iPod problems.
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HE looks great considering HE very well could be dead.
wat? I know he's been on medical leave and thats why I assume he looks terrible.
He's battled cancer twice if i'm not mistaken. Lucky to be alive.
He's not lucky. South Park was right.
(https://www.pointofcaredispensing.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/why-dispense/money-injection.jpg)
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I'm really digging the new notification system that will be implemented.
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HE looks great considering HE very well could be dead.
wat? I know he's been on medical leave and thats why I assume he looks terrible.
He's battled cancer twice if i'm not mistaken. Lucky to be alive.
He's not lucky. South Park was right.
(https://www.pointofcaredispensing.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/why-dispense/money-injection.jpg)
That's one reason Steve Jobs rubs me the wrong way. He didn't do anything wrong per se, but putting yourself on the donor list of every hospital in the country because you can afford to travel there in an instant seems like cheating. IMO.
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Interesting benefit of the iTunes Match aspect of iCloud.
https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/07/apple-offers-music-pirates-permanent-amnesty-for-24-99/?source=cnn_bin&hpt=hp_bn3
You can basically get all of your pirated music turned into legitimately owned iTunes music. Interesting.
tjanuranus - since you're the expert, does this sound legit to you?
Could I get my hands into the AAC file and, let's say, change it myself to 320 Kbps MP3s?
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Not sure. Depends on if it's strictly a streaming service or if it gives you an option to save the music locally for offline access.
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Interesting benefit of the iTunes Match aspect of iCloud.
https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/07/apple-offers-music-pirates-permanent-amnesty-for-24-99/?source=cnn_bin&hpt=hp_bn3
You can basically get all of your pirated music turned into legitimately owned iTunes music. Interesting.
tjanuranus - since you're the expert, does this sound legit to you?
Could I get my hands into the AAC file and, let's say, change it myself to 320 Kbps MP3s?
Why would you want to? A 256k vbr AAC sounds just as good if not better than a 320 mp3 file. (And i have a TON of 320 mp3's. Used to rip all my cd's as 320 mp3.) Plus i don't think it's about getting your hands on anything. Basically all the music you have in your itunes library is scanned and matched with the 18 billion songs in the itunes library. Whatever you have will be able to be played on any iOS device or mac at 256 aac quality. No downloading or anything and whatever file sizes you have on your computer you still have to copy manually to any device you would like if you want to use a WAV file or whatever. If one of your songs is not part of the 18 billion then it will automatically upload for you to use anywhere. So it's ALL the music in your library with no uploading (unless there is an exception.) At 2 dollars a month. You could literally have 50k songs and it wouldn't matter according the the Keynote address.
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You probably just need to reset it. Go to the support section of Apple's website. There's a nifty little 5-step process that has always helped me when I have iPod problems.
I just went into the back to get my iPod and now it's working. :|
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Someone needs to tell Apple that you overprice your software, NOT your hardware. :yarr
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Interesting benefit of the iTunes Match aspect of iCloud.
https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/07/apple-offers-music-pirates-permanent-amnesty-for-24-99/?source=cnn_bin&hpt=hp_bn3
You can basically get all of your pirated music turned into legitimately owned iTunes music. Interesting.
tjanuranus - since you're the expert, does this sound legit to you?
Could I get my hands into the AAC file and, let's say, change it myself to 320 Kbps MP3s?
Why would you want to? A 256k vbr AAC sounds just as good if not better than a 320 mp3 file. (And i have a TON of 320 mp3's. Used to rip all my cd's as 320 mp3.) Plus i don't think it's about getting your hands on anything. Basically all the music you have in your itunes library is scanned and matched with the 18 billion songs in the itunes library. Whatever you have will be able to be played on any iOS device or mac at 256 aac quality. No downloading or anything and whatever file sizes you have on your computer you still have to copy manually to any device you would like if you want to use a WAV file or whatever. If one of your songs is not part of the 18 billion then it will automatically upload for you to use anywhere. So it's ALL the music in your library with no uploading (unless there is an exception.) At 2 dollars a month. You could literally have 50k songs and it wouldn't matter according the the Keynote address.
Try 18 million. Also, there's a difference in file size between AAC and MP3, perhaps in quality, but I wouldn't be so bold as to suggest 356 kb/s AAC = 320 kb/s MP3. I have to say I kind of lol'd when Jobs said "We'll even upgrade all your music to 256 kb/s AAC". That was ridiculous.
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You could literally have 50k songs and it wouldn't matter according the the Keynote address.
According to the CNN article above, there's a 25k song limit.
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Interesting benefit of the iTunes Match aspect of iCloud.
https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/07/apple-offers-music-pirates-permanent-amnesty-for-24-99/?source=cnn_bin&hpt=hp_bn3
You can basically get all of your pirated music turned into legitimately owned iTunes music. Interesting.
tjanuranus - since you're the expert, does this sound legit to you?
Could I get my hands into the AAC file and, let's say, change it myself to 320 Kbps MP3s?
Why would you want to? A 256k vbr AAC sounds just as good if not better than a 320 mp3 file. (And i have a TON of 320 mp3's. Used to rip all my cd's as 320 mp3.) Plus i don't think it's about getting your hands on anything. Basically all the music you have in your itunes library is scanned and matched with the 18 billion songs in the itunes library. Whatever you have will be able to be played on any iOS device or mac at 256 aac quality. No downloading or anything and whatever file sizes you have on your computer you still have to copy manually to any device you would like if you want to use a WAV file or whatever. If one of your songs is not part of the 18 billion then it will automatically upload for you to use anywhere. So it's ALL the music in your library with no uploading (unless there is an exception.) At 2 dollars a month. You could literally have 50k songs and it wouldn't matter according the the Keynote address.
If you look at the article I linked, he makes it sound like you'll be able to download to files to your devices or computers, not just stream them from "the cloud". If this is the case, I will definitely do this. If I can't actually download them, not so much.
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Well, yes. iCloud is not a streaming service. Once your libraries are in sync, if you purchase a track on say your iPad, it will be on your iPhone and your computer as well, automatically.
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You could literally have 50k songs and it wouldn't matter according the the Keynote address.
According to the CNN article above, there's a 25k song limit.
I stand corrected. I thought it said 50k on the keynote but i just watched it again and it said 20k. STill 25k is a shit ton of songs.
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Well, yes. iCloud is not a streaming service. Once your libraries are in sync, if you purchase a track on say your iPad, it will be on your iPhone and your computer as well, automatically.
This the actual iCloud transfers your files over the cloud. The itunes match is a streaming service. iCloud is free.
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Well, yes. iCloud is not a streaming service. Once your libraries are in sync, if you purchase a track on say your iPad, it will be on your iPhone and your computer as well, automatically.
This the actual iCloud transfers your files over the cloud. The itunes match is a streaming service. iCloud is free.
Uhh, as I understood it iTunes Match is exactly the same as iCould expet also for music not purchased in the iTunes Store.. So not a streaming service either. I could be wrong though.
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No because the I cloud does file uploading and pushes the info to your devices iTunes match there is no uploading it matches all the music you have so you can stream all of those files any time from their servers ota. Thus saving lots of time and headache.
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You probably just need to reset it. Go to the support section of Apple's website. There's a nifty little 5-step process that has always helped me when I have iPod problems.
I just went into the back to get my iPod and now it's working. :|
Maybe it has a mind of its own... o.O
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No because the I cloud does file uploading and pushes the info to your devices iTunes match there is no uploading it matches all the music you have so you can stream all of those files any time from their servers ota. Thus saving lots of time and headache.
I thought it would match the files so you can download t hem on your other devices. I remember Jobs specifically saying something like this is a first timer for the record industry that you will not be charged extra for multiple downloads.
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Hmm. I will watch this again lol. Now I'm confused!
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I'm pretty sure you iTunes Match is not a streaming service same as iCloud, but I could be wrong.
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Ok he sais same benefit as purchased music so you can download if you want. I understand. For some reason i thought it was streaming. This is even better i guess because it doesn't rely on you having internet.
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Interesting benefit of the iTunes Match aspect of iCloud.
https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/07/apple-offers-music-pirates-permanent-amnesty-for-24-99/?source=cnn_bin&hpt=hp_bn3
You can basically get all of your pirated music turned into legitimately owned iTunes music. Interesting.
tjanuranus - since you're the expert, does this sound legit to you?
Could I get my hands into the AAC file and, let's say, change it myself to 320 Kbps MP3s?
Why would you want to? A 256k vbr AAC sounds just as good if not better than a 320 mp3 file. (And i have a TON of 320 mp3's. Used to rip all my cd's as 320 mp3.) Plus i don't think it's about getting your hands on anything. Basically all the music you have in your itunes library is scanned and matched with the 18 billion songs in the itunes library. Whatever you have will be able to be played on any iOS device or mac at 256 aac quality. No downloading or anything and whatever file sizes you have on your computer you still have to copy manually to any device you would like if you want to use a WAV file or whatever. If one of your songs is not part of the 18 billion then it will automatically upload for you to use anywhere. So it's ALL the music in your library with no uploading (unless there is an exception.) At 2 dollars a month. You could literally have 50k songs and it wouldn't matter according the the Keynote address.
If you look at the article I linked, he makes it sound like you'll be able to download to files to your devices or computers, not just stream them from "the cloud". If this is the case, I will definitely do this. If I can't actually download them, not so much.
This is exactly what I am looking for. And TJ, with the 160 GB iPod I own I think 320 MP3s is just pretty good, not FLAC-wise, but 320 is more than good for me. To be honest, I've never used the AAC format nor I know if 256 is the best or whatever.
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a 256k AAC file is basically a 320 mp3 in sound quality. Actually sometimes they sound even better.
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That's awesome. I guess that I like MP3 right now because I know that (even though I own an iPod) this format is more friendly in other devices... and it is, you know, the most popular format.
Now, in terms of the size of the archive, how much different is AAC from the MP3? (This is another factor I'm taking into account.)
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That's awesome. I guess that I like MP3 right now because I know that (even though I own an iPod) this format is more friendly in other devices... and it is, you know, the most popular format.
Now, in terms of the size of the archive, how much different is AAC from the MP3? (This is another factor I'm taking into account.)
AAC is larger than MP3 per bitrate AFAIK, so the difference shouldn't be too much in the end. It's more the compatibility that I take issue with.
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Exactly. If I can fix the compatibility issues myself, I think I'm sold (I will at least pay the first $25 and see how it goes).
This is a city council video where Steve Jobs explains what he's going to do with the new land he bought in Cupertino, CA. Apple's headquarters are expanding and they are doing so in some classy style. The idea of the building is pretty interesting as well.
Here's the YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtuz5OmOh_M
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Exactly. If I can fix the compatibility issues myself, I think I'm sold (I will at least pay the first $25 and see how it goes).
This is a city council video where Steve Jobs explains what he's going to do with the new land he bought in Cupertino, CA. Apple's headquarters are expanding and they are doing so in some classy style. The idea of the building is pretty interesting as well.
Here's the YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtuz5OmOh_M
I don't understand what compatibility issues you are worried about. It doesn't matter what format your songs are in for itUnes match. Should be no problem.
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(https://i.imgur.com/f4C6M.jpg)
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I don't understand what compatibility issues you are worried about.
I don't always use Apple products to listen to my music.
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*snip*
:rollin :rollin
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I don't understand what compatibility issues you are worried about.
I don't always use Apple products to listen to my music.
With itunes match i believe you would have to. It's iOS devices. You can use a Pc for iTunes but it's an iOS thing so iPhone, iPad or iPod touch.
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I don't understand what compatibility issues you are worried about.
I don't always use Apple products to listen to my music.
With itunes match i believe you would have to. It's iOS devices. You can use a Pc for iTunes but it's an iOS thing so iPhone, iPad or iPod touch.
His first question I believe was whether he could download the files and save them on his PC, as opposed to just streaming from an iOS device. Maybe he only has a lower quality file and wants to update it with a higher quality mp3.
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I don't understand what compatibility issues you are worried about.
I don't always use Apple products to listen to my music.
With itunes match i believe you would have to. It's iOS devices. You can use a Pc for iTunes but it's an iOS thing so iPhone, iPad or iPod touch.
His first question I believe was whether he could download the files and save them on his PC, as opposed to just streaming from an iOS device. Maybe he only has a lower quality file and wants to update it with a higher quality mp3.
More or less, yeah.
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Only iTunes doesn't use mp3s.
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It is compatible.
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Only iTunes doesn't use mp3s.
The itunes store doesn't but you can convert any format pretty much in itunes. Also iTunes reads most formats.
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I have been doing some research. There's AAC 320 which in terms of size and quality is the equivalent to MP3 320 kbps. Why didn't Steve Jobs go the Full Monty instead of just AAC 256? I mean, it's just the next standard in line. Or is he waiting one year to say: "Since iMatch has been such a success, we've decided to up the ante. AAC 320 to everyone!"
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I have been doing some research. There's AAC 320 which in terms of size and quality is the equivalent to MP3 320 kbps. Why didn't Steve Jobs go the Full Monty instead of just AAC 256? I mean, it's just the next standard in line. Or is he waiting one year to say: "Since iMatch has been such a success, we've decided to up the ante. AAC 320 to everyone!"
Because sound quality wise a 256 AAc is very similar to a 320 mp3 even better in some cases so why use the extra size when it's not needed?
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I have been doing some research. There's AAC 320 which in terms of size and quality is the equivalent to MP3 320 kbps. Why didn't Steve Jobs go the Full Monty instead of just AAC 256? I mean, it's just the next standard in line. Or is he waiting one year to say: "Since iMatch has been such a success, we've decided to up the ante. AAC 320 to everyone!"
No, I don't believe 320 kb/s AAC exists, but even if it does it won't happen because the iTunes Store doesn't have 320 AAC. "Regular quality" in the iTunes Store is 192 kb/S AAC and "high quality" (iTunes Plus) is 256 kb/s. So unless they upgrade the whole iTunes Store, which I don't see happening, you're not going to get any higher quality on iTunes Match in the future.
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Bought 25 shares today at 326.00 instead of leaving it in my savings account. Should bring back a nice return by the end of the year.
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Bought 25 shares today at 326.00 instead of leaving it in my savings account. Should bring back a nice return by the end of the year.
I'm still kicking myself for selling my shares. I bought at $40 a few years ago. Sold at $90 after it had dropped a bit thinking it had maxed out. Then bought again at $110 and sold at $180. At least I made some money for my IRA. Needless to say, individual stocks are not my thing. :)
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I have been doing some research. There's AAC 320 which in terms of size and quality is the equivalent to MP3 320 kbps. Why didn't Steve Jobs go the Full Monty instead of just AAC 256? I mean, it's just the next standard in line. Or is he waiting one year to say: "Since iMatch has been such a success, we've decided to up the ante. AAC 320 to everyone!"
No, I don't believe 320 kb/s AAC exists, but even if it does it won't happen because the iTunes Store doesn't have 320 AAC. "Regular quality" in the iTunes Store is 192 kb/S AAC and "high quality" (iTunes Plus) is 256 kb/s. So unless they upgrade the whole iTunes Store, which I don't see happening, you're not going to get any higher quality on iTunes Match in the future.
It does, I'm certain. iMatch will work with AAC 256 kb/s, right?
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Yes.
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Then I guess I'm almost sold.
I've been doing some pruning with my iTunes. I've deleted a lot of songs (read: removed from iTunes) that I don't care about. Is there any way that the songs that are not in my iTunes be deleted from my computer without doing this whole process again?
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Well you could've removed them from your computer when you removed them from iTunes but that's too late now. There's this function in iTunes that will create your Music folder, with artist and album maps for every song in your library. If you do that you can remove your "old" music folder completely.
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today i was driving and Wanted to play some Rush but didn't have any on my Iphone. i have about 20 gigs of music on the phone but i didn't put any rush on it. I tried going on youtube and that worked a little bit but the quality is so shit most of the time and sometimes you can't find the songs you want to hear. I was like.. "iTunes Match would be PERFECT right now considering i own every Rush album."
Just knowing that's it's coming is frustrating me not having it! lol
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I don't think you can just browse your library. It'll be something like making a shared playlist which syncs automatically and replaces all the other music on your devices.
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I don't think you can just browse your library. It'll be something like making a shared playlist which syncs automatically and replaces all the other music on your devices.
This was my underestanding as well, though obviously it's not incredibly clear at this point what exactly it's going to be.
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I don't think you can just browse your library. It'll be something like making a shared playlist which syncs automatically and replaces all the other music on your devices.
Where did you get this from? I didn't get that out of the keynote.
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I just watched it again. He says that it has the same benefit as purchased music. So if you watch the itunes in the cloud portion that was before that is dealing with purchased music you can download any song at any time you've purchased. So yeah iTunes match treats your entire library liked purchased music so you can access it at any time.
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I just watched it again. He says that it has the same benefit as purchased music. So if you watch the itunes in the cloud portion that was before that is dealing with purchased music you can download any song at any time you've purchased. So yeah iTunes match treats your entire library liked purchased music so you can access it at any time.
That's still not clear though. Will you be able to stream it without worrying about having enough storage on your device? Otherwise, you're still stuck with limited storage.
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I just watched it again. He says that it has the same benefit as purchased music. So if you watch the itunes in the cloud portion that was before that is dealing with purchased music you can download any song at any time you've purchased. So yeah iTunes match treats your entire library liked purchased music so you can access it at any time.
That's still not clear though. Will you be able to stream it without worrying about having enough storage on your device? Otherwise, you're still stuck with limited storage.
There's no storage really. It's your entire library. You don't upload anything unless they don't have it. They have 18 million songs in their database.
The only limit i believe is 30 thousand songs. or 25k. can't remember.
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I just watched it again. He says that it has the same benefit as purchased music. So if you watch the itunes in the cloud portion that was before that is dealing with purchased music you can download any song at any time you've purchased. So yeah iTunes match treats your entire library liked purchased music so you can access it at any time.
That's still not clear though. Will you be able to stream it without worrying about having enough storage on your device? Otherwise, you're still stuck with limited storage.
There's no storage really. It's your entire library. You don't upload anything unless they don't have it. They have 18 million songs in their database.
The only limit i believe is 30 thousand songs. or 25k. can't remember.
I'm not talking about the storage available in the cloud, I'm talking about on your device. For example, in your last scenario wanting to listen to Rush, would you have to download the song onto your device to listen to it? Or would it be simply streaming without regard to how much room you have on your device (other than caching). More importantly, is their an option to do either depending on your preference?
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I just watched it again. He says that it has the same benefit as purchased music. So if you watch the itunes in the cloud portion that was before that is dealing with purchased music you can download any song at any time you've purchased. So yeah iTunes match treats your entire library liked purchased music so you can access it at any time.
That's still not clear though. Will you be able to stream it without worrying about having enough storage on your device? Otherwise, you're still stuck with limited storage.
There's no storage really. It's your entire library. You don't upload anything unless they don't have it. They have 18 million songs in their database.
The only limit i believe is 30 thousand songs. or 25k. can't remember.
I'm not talking about the storage available in the cloud, I'm talking about on your device. For example, in your last scenario wanting to listen to Rush, would you have to download the song onto your device to listen to it? Or would it be simply streaming without regard to how much room you have on your device (other than caching). More importantly, is their an option to do either depending on your preference?
Oh ok. That i have no idea how it's going to work. I know you can download the songs from the keynote. Not sure about the streaming yet. Luckily the AAC files are not that big to download.
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I'm fairly confident it's not a streaming service.
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I'm fairly confident it's not a streaming service.
And if they were, AAC 256 k/bps is pretty heavy to stream on a phone with just data plan (considering that your scenario was The Count of Tuscanyesque).
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Ok so there are talks that the ipad2 jailbreak will not allow piracy. Here is a good article on it and i agree with it.
https://lesspersonal.me/post/6667924555/anti-piracy-jailbreak-yes-please
Less Personal - Anti-Piracy Jailbreak? Yes, please.
If you’re current and up-to-date on news, then you probably have heard the rumors of Stefan Esser (@i0n1c) possibly working on an anti-piracy jailbreak. This is an idea that I’ve had for a few years but have never seen it implemented or taken seriously, however, this time it seems possible via a custom DRM solution that would make it possible for him to block jailbreak applications from running. This isn’t a great idea, it’s a fabulous one. We live in an age where people get on the defensive about not being able to do illegal things because “it’s their right to do whatever they want” which is a piss poor argument and plainly - idiotic. As Dissident from the Hackulous team, the people who make Installous, would put it:
The entire premise behind jailbreaking is that you’re able to do whatever you want with your device. It’s your device, you own it and you should be able to manipulate the software in any way that you like,”
“That doesn’t necessarily mean everything you do with it is legal, but that the manufacturer of the software and the hardware has no place in telling you how you use the device.”
“If a jailbreak author decides to add [his own] DRM to it, they are being extremely hypocritical,” he concluded.
Let me break this all down for you: He’s saying that because you bought an iPhone, you should be able to do whatever you want with it. He’s saying that because you bought something, your responsibility and morals are out the door. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t this the stereotypical teenager or too-lazy-to-care attitude? Of course it is. Let me put it this way. Murder is illegal. If you buy a gun, you shouldn’t murder people. According to Dissident, you should have the right to murder people because you bought a gun. Yes, I’m comparing pirating apps to murdering people because if you do either, you’re slime to me.
Next, he’s telling you that the people who’ve sold you said device or “gun” in this scenario have no right telling you how to use it. He’s saying those Warning labels on packs of ammunition aren’t to be read or even bothered with. He’s saying that the people who sold you the gun have no place telling you not to go on a killing spree with it.
Lastly, hypocritical. I’m starting tot hink he just threw this word in because it felt like a good time to use the word even without understanding it’s meaning. What is hypocritical about blocking access to piracy apps and allowing them? Not a thing. There’s people who release tweaks to allow you to mod the way Apple does this, there’s people who release apps that Apple won’t approve, and lastly, there’s people who simply enjoy that amount of customization that their granted. He used the word wrong, simply put, and there’s no solid defense against the idiocy that follows pirating an app that at most, is around 10 dollars.
Now, back to the subject. Taking about piracy, developers make 70% of sales for one app. Apple takes 30% and little teenagers who got their iPod Touch for Christmas say that they only pirate apps so Apple won’t get any of their money. But no no, they hate Apple - just love their devices. Makes perfect sense, right? Worst part is, they don’t care that in the end they’re stopping developers from gaining money off the app that they’ve devoted time and money into. On top of that, I think it’d be safe to say that the majority of apps that are pirated are made by independent developers or start up companies. For those of you who don’t know what that means, an independent developer is one person making one app by themselves. A start up company is basically a group of independent developers and designers trying to create a company for themselves and get their name out there. To evolve, in a sense. But these little kids who need to be able to pirate the full version of Words with Friends or unlock all the levels in Astronut are the ones who need to evolve. They need to get rid of this mentality that they don’t need to pay for apps, that this is perfectly fine and that by pirating apps, you look cooler. Truth is, pirating apps makes you look like a douchebag, but I guess that’s cool now?
One big argument is that adding this DRM makes it seem like Steffan would have complete control over what apps you can and can’t use. Honestly, do you think a leading head in the jailbreaking community would say “No, we don’t want you to play Real Racing 2” or block apps that have no horrible after effect? No. SImply put, no. His whole idea for helping with the jailbreak is to allow you to get passed what Apple’s barriers are preventing you from.
And then there’s the personal side of things. As a hacker or coder, however you would describe yourself, you should want to prevent these things from happening. You should want to help other developers because you know what it’s like creating something, trying to sell it and see people steal it. You know that feeling. You want respect from your fellow man, but also from the community as a whole. Who would have the mind to say otherwise? Little kids who can’t afford to buy new shoes so they still wear their talking Adidas that they got for their birthday 7 years ago. Those are the people who would try to push you down for preventing piracy. Everyone else would be right there with you supporting the entire idea and try to do the best they can to show that support.
In the end, jailbreaking to pirate apps is stupid. If you have a 300 - 600 dollar device and you can’t chuck a few bucks to buy an app - you’re retarded. Developers deserve the money, designers need the money, people need to stop running in circles. That’s all there is to it. It’s so simple and easy to understand that it makes me cringe that other people don’t get ti or have completely opposite views on it.
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People who don't think like the author = murderers and retarded.
:therearenowords:
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That is probably the most retarded tech-related article I've read since that one guy who said his son was buying two ipads so he could multitask.
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Well you could've removed them from your computer when you removed them from iTunes but that's too late now. There's this function in iTunes that will create your Music folder, with artist and album maps for every song in your library. If you do that you can remove your "old" music folder completely.
How?
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*A load of tosh*
Holy strawmen batman!
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Well you could've removed them from your computer when you removed them from iTunes but that's too late now. There's this function in iTunes that will create your Music folder, with artist and album maps for every song in your library. If you do that you can remove your "old" music folder completely.
How?
Uhh, on Mac (but pretty sure it's the same on Windows) it's preferences>advanced and there'll be something like Location 'iTunes Media' folder. You can set the location, and underneath it there's two boxes you can check. The above will copy all the music currently in your library to your set folder in artist and album folders. If you also check the one underneath it will automatically copy the files to your set folder when you add new music.
Oh and also in the advanced tab, if you click reset all warnings then it will warn you again when you try to delete a file in iTunes and then you can click also delete from my computer.
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That is probably the most retarded tech-related article I've read since that one guy who said his son was buying two ipads so he could multitask.
Why is it retarded? Because they are trying to eliminate piracy? I ton of developers are single or small group who put in a lot of hard work. I have no problem with people making it more difficult to impossible to pirate apps. It's not the same as the movie industry where a movie comes out in the theater, makes a ton of money and then makes even more money on DVD and then people pirate it. I'm not saying it's right but it's NOT the same. If they do this there would be NO way to pirate apps on iOS. IF they implement across all newer jailbreaks. That would be a MAJOR win for developers on the platform and a another incentive to write for iOS.
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Isn't the fact that you can get free apps one of the reasons a lot of people jailbreak in the first place?
*A load of tosh*
Holy strawmen batman!
Also this.
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That is probably the most retarded tech-related article I've read since that one guy who said his son was buying two ipads so he could multitask.
Why is it retarded? Because they are trying to eliminate piracy? I ton of developers are single or small group who put in a lot of hard work. I have no problem with people making it more difficult to impossible to pirate apps. It's not the same as the movie industry where a movie comes out in the theater, makes a ton of money and then makes even more money on DVD and then people pirate it. I'm not saying it's right but it's NOT the same. If they do this there would be NO way to pirate apps on iOS. IF they implement across all newer jailbreaks. That would be a MAJOR win for developers on the platform and a another incentive to write for iOS.
It's retarded because of this:
We live in an age where people get on the defensive about not being able to do illegal things because “it’s their right to do whatever they want” which is a piss poor argument and plainly - idiotic.
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Let me break this all down for you: He’s saying that because you bought an iPhone, you should be able to do whatever you want with it. He’s saying that because you bought something, your responsibility and morals are out the door.
His entire argument is based on the premise that the only reason people jailbreak is to pirate, which is simply false. He groups everyone who wants to hack or jailbreak their own hardware in with people who simply want to steal shit, and then argues against jailbreaking on that. It's a massive strawman.
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That is probably the most retarded tech-related article I've read since that one guy who said his son was buying two ipads so he could multitask.
Why is it retarded? Because they are trying to eliminate piracy? I ton of developers are single or small group who put in a lot of hard work. I have no problem with people making it more difficult to impossible to pirate apps. It's not the same as the movie industry where a movie comes out in the theater, makes a ton of money and then makes even more money on DVD and then people pirate it. I'm not saying it's right but it's NOT the same. If they do this there would be NO way to pirate apps on iOS. IF they implement across all newer jailbreaks. That would be a MAJOR win for developers on the platform and a another incentive to write for iOS.
It's retarded because of this:
We live in an age where people get on the defensive about not being able to do illegal things because “it’s their right to do whatever they want” which is a piss poor argument and plainly - idiotic.
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Let me break this all down for you: He’s saying that because you bought an iPhone, you should be able to do whatever you want with it. He’s saying that because you bought something, your responsibility and morals are out the door.
His entire argument is based on the premise that the only reason people jailbreak is to pirate, which is simply false. He groups everyone who wants to hack or jailbreak their own hardware in with people who simply want to steal shit, and then argues against jailbreaking on that. It's a massive strawman.
I've jailbroken before but it's mainly for myWI. And i paid for that app. I'm not against JB at all but I am against App Piracy.
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Apple Came out with a brand new Final Cut pro apparently re written from the ground up and dropped the price from 999.99 to 299.99 with more features to come soon from what i've heard. That's awesome.
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I kinda wish Adobe would do that with Premiere.
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I kind of wish Abode stopped making every single product cost Ł9,000,000 for each and every fucking license.
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YEah my wife does a lot of graphic design and the prices are very high for adobe products! I wish apple would just buy them like they did emagic and other companies and incorporate it into their software lineup ala Logic Studio. Logic used to costs thousands when you added up each thing emagic sold for it now the entire thing is 499.99. c'mon apple just buy adobe and be done with it! Obviously they would need to support windows for everyone to be happy but they already to with itunes and safari. Apple has over 70 BIllion in cash that's just sitting there. That's insane. I heard rumors about them buying netflix but buying adobe would be awesome for everyone because the prices would come way down and they would probably keep the same engineers on like they did with logic.
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I know this isn't a big deal but i found this interesting...
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/16/icloud-logo-infused-with-golden-ratio/
(https://www.todaysiphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/icloud-logo.jpg)
iCloud Logo Infused With Golden Ratio
(https://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/06/goldenratio.jpg)
Apple's logo artists have infused the iCloud logo with some mathematical elegance. In this case, the golden ratio or φ.
The circles in the 'puffs' of the iCloud are sized in a ratio of 1:1.6, an approximation of golden ratio, as discovered by Australian designer Alan van Roemburg. It seems unlikely the proportion was unintentional; Apple's artists simply have an acute sense of the history of design and mathematics.
The golden ratio has been around since at least Euclid and Pythagoras. Fans of the Da Vinci Code should know it too, as Dan Brown has referenced φ several times in his books. No wonder iCloud seems so elegant and aesthetically pleasing.
Hat tip to John Gruber
Update: The original source of the image appears to have been Takamasa Matsumoto.
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Skype accidentally uploaded a video of its upcoming iPad app onto YouTube as public. It quickly realized the mistake and marked the video as private but not before RazorianFly user Shason (@trackizmy1) managed to take a screen recording.
Take a look below!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5G_CkPfDOU
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(https://imgur.com/lSziS.jpg)
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Skype accidentally uploaded a video of its upcoming iPad app onto YouTube as public. It quickly realized the mistake and marked the video as private but not before RazorianFly user Shason (@trackizmy1) managed to take a screen recording.
Take a look below!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5G_CkPfDOU
Its about time.
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Apple Came out with a brand new Final Cut pro apparently re written from the ground up and dropped the price from 999.99 to 299.99 with more features to come soon from what i've heard. That's awesome.
https://www.engadget.com/2011/06/25/apple-product-managers-respond-to-final-cut-pro-x-criticism/
Unfortunately, when starting from scratch, developers seem to have overlooked a few features that professional users have come to depend on, prompting widespread backlash -- both on internet forums and even on Apple's own App Store, where the $300 download-only app currently has a rating of just 2.5 stars (out of five), including nearly 500 one-star ratings. (Note: you must purchase the app before submitting a rating or review.) The New York Times spoke to product managers about these issues, which include an inability to import old FCP files, no multicamera editing, no support for RED cameras, and no ability to specify QuickTime export settings, among many others.
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Yes but apple did say they will be adding those features. This is a1.0 release. No one is stopping anyone from using their preferred version until the features get added. So odd the behavior.
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Why couldn't they just... Do those as well? And maybe postpone the release a few months. They better make it a free upgrade.
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Honestly, I was soured to the whole notion of Final Cut when a professor at my university started requiring all of his students to use Final Cut, in spite of it being Mac exclusive, and 75% of the class using Windows based PCs.
On another note, I saw what is probably the most accurate advertisement for a Mac computer ever today in a Futureshop flyer;
The headline on one of the flyer pages literally said "MacBook. Oooooh, pretty...". Truth in advertising I guess. :lol
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Apple Says Multicam Support is "Top Priority" in FCP X and More
It's been three days since Apple released Final Cut Pro X, a complete redesign of its flagship video editing suite. Early reaction has been mixed at best, with users giving poor marks to the software on the Mac App Store and in reviews. Even Conan O'Brien poked fun at the new release.
Apple seems to be addressing concerns through David Pogue's column at the New York Times, assisting David with an extensive Q&A covering what's missing from Final Cut Pro X and giving some workarounds as well. One of the biggest complaints in FCP X was the lack of multicamera editing. Apple promises many more features and fixes, and notes that adding multicam is a "top priority":
Complaint: There’s no multicamera editing. In the old FCP, you could import the footage from various cameras that covered an event (say, a concert) from different angles simultaneously, and then easily cut back and forth between them while editing. It was a star feature of Final Cut, and it’s gone from FCP X.
Answer: Apple intends to restore this feature in an update, calling it “a top priority.” Until it does, here’s a stopgap facsimile of multicam editing: If you drag two clips into parallel timeline tracks, you can choose Clip->Synchronize Clips. By comparing their audio tracks, the program aligns the clips exactly. Now, each time you select a piece of the upper video track and press the V key (“disable”), you are effectively cutting to what’s on the lower video track.
The Q&A goes on for quite a while, and those FCPX users who have concerns would do well to give it a read.
Before the software came out, Final Cut Pro guru Larry Jordan warned against adopting Final Cut Pro X too quickly:
Whenever you've got something which is that big a re-write, stuff gets changed, stuff gets left out, stuff gets added later because they can't get it all re-written and I guarantee you that on day one when the dot zero release ships it will not be ready for professional use.
His advice seems especially prescient in the aftermath of the Final Cut Pro X launch.
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I read that there's a $50 add-on called Compressor or some such that includes several key features that aren't in FCPX. Stay classy, Apple.
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I read that there's a $50 add-on called Compressor or some such that includes several key features that aren't in FCPX. Stay classy, Apple.
IF that's true what's wrong with that. Price before was 1000 dollars it's now 300. Even at 350 it's ridiculously cheap.
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I don't care what something costs. If you nerf features in a program just to make people pay more for an add-on, especially obvious small ones that should be put in like being able to make chapters for DVDs and formatting the file in different file types, that's shady business practice. We're talking features that people actually used in the past. If Apple seriously forgot to put those things in just make an update, not an "Oops we forgot!" pack you need to pay for.
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I read that there's a $50 add-on called Compressor or some such that includes several key features that aren't in FCPX. Stay classy, Apple.
IF that's true what's wrong with that. Price before was 1000 dollars it's now 300. Even at 350 it's ridiculously cheap.
You seriously see nothing wrong with that? To me, it looks like Apple handled it this way: OK so we redesigned Final Cut Pro. I think we would make maximum profit if we sell it at 350. No wait, we can make more money if we sell it for 300 but leave out key features so people will have to buy the $50 add-on to actually work with the program.
There's nothing wrong with a company trying to make as much profit as possible, but as orcus pointed out this just looks shady.
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At the very least, if this was a planned thing, publicise the fact that you're releasing the new version with fewer features at a low price and allowing people to purchase the add-ons that they need for the type of work they do, saving them money overall. That sounds like a nice thing. Releasing a product and then later having an add-on seems like you either just forgot or didn't realize people actually used those features.
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... or wanted more money.
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... or wanted more money.
I really don't buy that. Releasing a program for $350 with everything you need makes the company come off much better than releasing a stripped down version for $300, responding to outcries from customers, then releasing a $50 add-on. It just doesn't make sense when they're already dropping the price. If it used to be $1000, people would be thrilled with $500. Making more money doesn't appear to me to be the motive.
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HOW ARE THEY PRICE GOUGING? EVen with the add on it's 650 dollars less! WTF?
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From what I've read it's actually a dumbed down version of FCP aimed more towards the "prosumer" types than professionals so you're not getting nearly the same amount of features in the $350 version as the full $1,000 FCP7.
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People are really over reacting to this. They said that they are planning on implementing the features that people are bitching about. Starting with the one i posted above. This is a 1.0 release. I don't know of any 1.0 software title that has every feature you could possibly want.
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The format thing is kind of criminal. You don't release a photo editing software that only saves in Jpeg, even in a 1.0.
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People are really over reacting to this. They said that they are planning on implementing the features that people are bitching about. Starting with the one i posted above. This is a 1.0 release. I don't know of any 1.0 software title that has every feature you could possibly want.
Well if it is a 1.0 then they should've marketed it as such and not as Final Cut Pro X. It's that simple. Nobody's overreacting, the thing is Apple are not as holy to everyone else as they are to you. They are a company like any other.
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They said it was a complete rewrite. A brand new software app that is different from the old Final Cut. It has a name but the version is 1.0. What is the big deal they are charging 700 dollars less and they will give you a refund if you aren't happy WHAT THE FUCK? No one said it was about being holy.
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The point is that they aren't charging less because it a different program.
Sure they can sell add-ons and upgrades and maybe it'll still come out as less but people were expecting a program with the same capabilities as the previous Final Cut Pro and thus were disappointed, and hence complaining. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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They said it was a complete rewrite. A brand new software app that is different from the old Final Cut. It has a name but the version is 1.0. What is the big deal they are charging 700 dollars less and they will give you a refund if you aren't happy WHAT THE FUCK? No one said it was about being holy.
Because Final Cut Pro is professional level software. A 700 dollar discount to a multi-million dollar production is irrelevant. The loss of features is. When you TAKE AWAY features from your consumers they've been using for years, you're screwing them. You're not seeing this from the point of view of the customer at all.
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And what is stopping anyone from using their current version until the new one is up to par?
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And what is stopping anyone from using their current version until the new one is up to par?
Because if you don't have a copy then finding one on the used market is tough.
Also, as someone who's getting Final Cut soon, this is a huge mixed blessing. On one hand, for only $200 more I can have the same level of software as the pros, but on the other it seems to be missing crucial features like multi-camera editing. I still want to know how you make such a basic mistake. It's not like they left out a semi-obscure feature that it turns out people actually want. Multi-camera editing makes things 1000% easier.
What I want to know is what is stopping you from understanding the perspective of the people who buy Apple's products?
EDIT: I just read again - no support for Red Cameras? Why make an affordable professional video editing software that can't be used with an affordable professional movie camera? What!?!?!?
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And what is stopping anyone from using their current version until the new one is up to par?
Because they paid $300 for the new one. And sure it's refundable but it's still a pain to deinstall, and reinstall the old one.
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Because I would return a product I wasn't happy with and continue using what I was using or use a different product. Apple or no apple. I've done it before and I'll probably do it again. Yeah it sucks that it doesn't have the feature you want but if you're ot happy get your money back and use what you are using and wait until they improve it, when it's not a 1.0 release or buy a different software title from a different company if you are really that pissed. I just think the internet likes to bitch just to bitch. Why would someone buy a 1.0 software title and expect it to have every feature and work flawlessly. There are ALWAYs bugs and missing features in 1.0 software no matter WHAT company it is.
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Because I would return a product I wasn't happy with and continue using what I was using or use a different product. Apple or no apple. I've done it before and I'll probably do it again. Yeah it sucks that it doesn't have the feature you want but if you're ot happy get your money back and use what you are using and wait until they improve it, when it's not a 1.0 release or buy a different software title from a different company if you are really that pissed. I just think the internet likes to bitch just to bitch. Why would someone buy a 1.0 software title and expect it to have every feature and work flawlessly. There are ALWAYs bugs and missing features in 1.0 software no matter WHAT company it is.
Bugs are understandable, features are not. If your customers expect your product to handle multi-camera editing and RED camera files, don't release the product until it can do those things.
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Because I would return a product I wasn't happy with and continue using what I was using or use a different product. Apple or no apple. I've done it before and I'll probably do it again. Yeah it sucks that it doesn't have the feature you want but if you're ot happy get your money back and use what you are using and wait until they improve it, when it's not a 1.0 release or buy a different software title from a different company if you are really that pissed. I just think the internet likes to bitch just to bitch. Why would someone buy a 1.0 software title and expect it to have every feature and work flawlessly. There are ALWAYs bugs and missing features in 1.0 software no matter WHAT company it is.
Bugs are understandable, features are not. If your customers expect your product to handle multi-camera editing and RED camera files, don't release the product until it can do those things.
Ok so they made a mistake by releasing the product to early. Everyone get their money back, problem solved. Then when the add these features buy it again for 700 less than they were charging before. Doesn't sound like anything to flip out about. I don't get it. I use Logic studio and I'm used to the features. If they released a new one without features i use i wouldn't buy it or if i did i would get my money back.
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I think you're flipping out more than anyone else in this thread...
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I'm not.
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I'm not.
:lol :rollin :lol
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This is pretty damning against FCPX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXepNCs_iZo
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This is pretty damning against FCPX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXepNCs_iZo
I feel really bewildered and confused right now. A huge percentage of why I wanted to buy a Mac was to get Final Cut, and apparently Apple decided to ruin the program. Should I just get a PC instead and learn Avid? What gives here?
Like, a couple weeks ago I would have said "no way Final Cut Pro won't eventually take over film editing. I need to get in on the future, which is easier to learn anyway. All set to go." Now all the sudden it looks like Apple's possibly giving up on the professional market completely... for some reason. I have no idea how to read the Tea Leaves here.
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I think this was a real failure of marketing. Was this new program supposed to be a budget version for those who wanted the bare essentials (loose definition of essential) while continuing with FCP7 for professional use? If this was the plan and they marketed it as such, I'm sure people wouldn't be as upset as they have been.
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I think this was a real failure of marketing. Was this new program supposed to be a budget version for those who wanted the bare essentials (loose definition of essential) while continuing with FCP7 for professional use? If this was the plan and they marketed it as such, I'm sure people wouldn't be as upset as they have been.
FCP7 has been discontinued. This is meant to be the Pro/Prosumer editing program from Apple. That would be nice except for the fact that it doesn't have a myriad of features pro editors demand.
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This is pretty damning against FCPX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXepNCs_iZo
You can't even open files made in the pervious version?
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Since when did pro film developers import stuff from iMovie?
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Do all these changes to Final Cut apply to Premiere Pro as well?
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https://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/29/apple-posts-final-cut-pro-x-faq-promises-updates/
Apple Posts Final Cut Pro X FAQ, Promises Updates
Apple has quietly posted a FAQ for Final Cut Pro X in response to the many questions and criticisms. (via 9to5Mac). The FAQ appears not to be linked from Apple's main site, and has not yet been publicized.
Final Cut Pro X is a breakthrough in nonlinear video editing. The application has impressed many pro editors, and it has also generated a lot of discussion in the pro video community. We know people have questions about the new features in Final Cut Pro X and how it compares with previous versions of Final Cut Pro. Here are the answers to the most common questions we’ve heard.
The FAQ mirrors some of the same issues addressed in David Pogue's article with responses from Apple product managers, but also gives a few more specifics.
Regarding importing from Final Cut Pro 7, Apple says that due to the many changes there was no way to "translate" old projects without losing or changing data. So, Apple suggests that users continue to use Final Cut Pro 7 for existing projects.
As for Multicam editing, Apple again promises that "it will" support it. The "next major release" will provide "great multicam support".
Another feature they promise will be coming is export of XML. They say they "know how important XML export" is to their users and expect to add it to Final Cut Pro X. A set of APIs will be released in the next few weeks so that 3rd party developers can access the "next-generation XML in Final Cut Pro X". Similiarly, OMF, AAF and EDL support should become available through 3rd parties once the API is available. One third party solution is already available for OMF and AMF export.
Finally, assigning audio tracks for export is promised for a "summer" update which will "allow you to use metadata tags to categorize your audio clips by type and export them directly from Final Cut Pro X."
Final Cut Pro X was released just last week, but was met with significant complaints due to missing features. The rest of the FAQ provides some more details that may be of interest to professional video editors.
https://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/faq/
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Granted they can make all these updates it's curious to see Apple rush an unfinished product. The reasons for the severely diminished pricetag is become all the more clear.
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Ok with all the tech bitching that goes on it's nice to read a positive story once in a while about how this great new technology changes lives. This comes on the heels of Apple announcing over 100,000 Ipad apps today in the app store. (not iphone apps that can be used on the ipad.)
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/ipad-becomes-the-apple-of-hollys-eye/story-fn7x8me2-1226083773188
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iPad becomes the Apple of Holly's eye
Holly's iPad is a hit with her schoolmates. Picture: Ben Swinnerton Herald Sun
A MELBOURNE schoolgirl with a sight disorder has become a poster child for Apple's iPad.
Holly Bligh, 9, has albinism, a genetic condition that affects not only the pigment in her skin, hair and eyes, but also her vision.
But the sight problems that once made school a struggle for Holly are now largely a thing of the past - and her parents thank her touch-screen tablet.
The iPad has replaced a weighty magnifying glass as Holly's classroom companion, and a simple swipe of her finger now zooms in on text that once had to be enlarged by teachers on the photocopier.
Holly's attention span has increased and her mother, Fiona, estimates "visual fatigue" now takes twice as long to set in.
"Holly's enthusiasm to read has grown so much, and it's definitely increased her independence," Ms Bligh said.
So impressed was Ms Bligh with her daughter's transformation that she sent a message to the very top at Apple.
Within hours of directly emailing multi-billionaire chief executive Steve Jobs, she was thrilled to receive a response.
"Thanks for sharing your experience with me. Do you mind if I read your email to a group of our top 100 leaders at Apple?" he wrote.
Mr Jobs signed off with "Thanks, Steve", and asked for a high-resolution photo of Holly with her iPad.
"I never thought we would hear back," Ms Bligh said.
"I know a lot of people think it's just a great gadget, but it's completely changed Holly's life."
Ms Bligh and her husband, James, were unaware they carried the recessive gene for albinism - and therefore a one-in-four chance of having an albino baby - until Holly, their third child, arrived.
Their family followed the textbook, with Holly the only one of four Bligh children inheriting albinism and nystagmus, a condition characterised by the involuntary flicker of the eyes.
Ms Bligh said the condition meant Holly would always have some limitations, such as being unable to drive. But it won't hold her back.
"Holly's very adaptable and she's got a fantastic attitude," Ms Bligh said.
And now she is cool with her schoolmates.
"All the other kids think it's awesome that she gets an iPad!" Ms Bligh wrote to the Apple boss. "Sometimes in the past Holly has found her extra equipment embarrassing ... But the iPad has a coolness factor!"
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It's great to know that Sonata's life has improved with the iPad.
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/07/01/adobe-lures-unhappy-final-cut-pro-x-users-with-half-price-video/
To say the latest version of Final Cut Pro wasn't well received, would be a major understatement. Well, Adobe hasn't wasted any time taking advantage of consumer discontent, and is now offering dissatisfied users of Apple's video editing software a 50 percent discount to make the switch to its alternatives, Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5 and CS5.5 Production Premium. If you're not feeling the latest iteration (or any version) of Final Cut Pro or Avid's Media Composer, the offer stands through September 30th. And here we thought Apple and Adobe had buried the hatchet.
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/07/01/adobe-lures-unhappy-final-cut-pro-x-users-with-half-price-video/
To say the latest version of Final Cut Pro wasn't well received, would be a major understatement. Well, Adobe hasn't wasted any time taking advantage of consumer discontent, and is now offering dissatisfied users of Apple's video editing software a 50 percent discount to make the switch to its alternatives, Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5 and CS5.5 Production Premium. If you're not feeling the latest iteration (or any version) of Final Cut Pro or Avid's Media Composer, the offer stands through September 30th. And here we thought Apple and Adobe had buried the hatchet.
That's beyond ballsy. And maybe will serve as the wake up call Apple needs to realize that they have severe damage control to do.
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OH SNAP..ple
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/07/09/apple-coughing-up-8-million-to-personal-audio-in-ipod-playlist/
Ah, the Eastern District of Texas. Home to tumbleweeds, free range cattle and boatloads of patent trolls. Personal Audio, a patent licensing company with a highfalutin' facility in Beaumont, Texas has become the latest outfit to claim victory over a major CE company, with Apple being asked to hand over $8 million to settle a tiff involving iPod playlists. Bloomberg reports that a federal jury in the Lonestar state found that Cupertino's iPod players infringed on patents for "downloadable playlists," right around two years after Personal Audio initially filed the claim for a staggering $84 million. We're told that the inventions cover "an audio player that can receive navigable playlists and can skip forward or backward through the downloaded list," and while Apple unsurprisingly stated that it wasn't actually using those very inventions, that hasn't stopped the courts from disagreeing just a wee bit. Now, the real question: are Sirius XM, Coby and Archos -- also named in the original suit -- going to be facing similar circumstances?
This is some stupid shit. Seriously? $8 million for downloadable playlists? I really don't think patents should be given out for things like this.
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That's clearly bull. Apple should refuse to pay.
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I don't get it.
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Why I'm never bothering with Apple again... stemmed from the discussion in the Netflix thread.
I received an iTunes gift card for Christmas a while back and added it to my account. I rarely use iTunes, except on the rare occasion that I can't find a physical copy of the movie I'm looking for, or if I install a digital copy of a movie. I logged in a few days ago to discover that several purchases were made using the gift card. All of them seem to be apps that I've never heard of (and I don't even own an iPhone or iPod).
My only legitimate purchases are Back to the Future and Ninja Assassin.
My city was changed to Towson, MD and the zip code to 21286-7840. I've never even been to Maryland. I take extreme caution to not store account information or to give out passwords. As I rarely use iTunes, this has been a significant experience in determining what movie and music software I use in the future. I have never had any account of any sort hacked in the past, and due to this, I've been forced to change the passwords tied to all my e-mail accounts, Facebook, chat clients, etc.
I trust this issue can be resolved quickly.
Thank you,
Tim
Dear Tim,
Greetings from Apple iTunes Store! My name is Sabrish and I will assist you today.
I understand you are reporting purchases that were made on your iTunes account without your permission or knowledge. I know how alarming it is when you become aware of unexpected purchases. I certainly understand your concern in this matter.
To prevent further unauthorized purchasing, I have disabled your account "**************". Please note that you can enable your iTunes Store account in the future by providing specific information to iTunes Store support as described at the end of this email.
Tim, I'm sorry, but under the circumstances the iTunes Store cannot reverse the charges for the unauthorized purchases.
I strongly recommend you change your account password immediately. Changing the password will help to prevent anyone else from using your iTunes Store account to place orders without your knowledge. To increase the security of your account I highly recommend that you follow the suggestions outlined in the following article:
iTunes Store: Best practices for protecting the security of your account
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4156
If you would like your iTunes Store account to be enabled, please reply to this email with the following information:
1) The billing address listed on the account, and
2) One of the following:
- the order number of your most recent legitimate purchase
- the name of any item you've purchased using this account
I will use the information you provide to re-enable your account.
Tim, I hope the above information is helpful. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to respond to this email and let me know.
Thank you for your interest in the iTunes Store. Have a nice day!
Sincerely,
Sabrish
iTunes Store Customer Support
Note: I work from Friday to Tuesday, 11.00 A.M to 8.00 P.M (CST)
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to assist you. You may receive an AppleCare survey email; any feedback you provide would be greatly appreciated.
This is unacceptable. I have done much research and I am fully aware
that thousands of accounts have been compromised due to shoddy
security on Apple's side. I will NOT activate my account, and in the
future, I will never purchase anything by or affiliated with Apple. I
prefer to buy from reliable and trustworthy businesses. Obviously,
Apple does not qualify as such.
Dear Tim,
It's Sabrish again from the iTunes Store. I appreciate you for taking the time to write back.
I understand that you are concerned about the safety of your personal information in regards to the iTunes Store and the App Store. Your privacy is very important to Apple and we take numerous precautions to safeguard your personal information against loss, theft, and misuse, as well as unauthorized access, disclosure, alteration, and destruction.
The following page outlines, in detail, how Apple protects your information:
Apple Privacy Policy
https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/
Tim, thanks for your understanding in this matter. Please do not hesitate to reply to this email if any further assistance is needed. I will be happy to help in any way I can.
Thank you for your interest in the iTunes Store. Have a nice day!
Sincerely,
Sabrish
iTunes Store Customer Support
Seriously? That's fucked up.
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*waits for tjanuranus to talk Apple out of it*
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*waits for tjanuranus to talk Apple out of it*
:lol
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That's pretty weak. I can kind of see their side, because then everybody could just say 'Hey I got hacked, give me free stuff.'
Then again, how hard would it have been for them to 'un-download' the purchases that you didn't authorize, refund whatever price it was plus $5 for your trouble? That way they aren't ripped off and you have your money back.
Simple Stuff Apple.
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*waits for tjanuranus to talk Apple out of it*
Already talked about in the other thread.
well I can't speak on that because that never happened to me. I'm sorry it happened to you, it seems odd they wouldn't do anything to help you out. I had a computer i was having some issues with and they gave me a brand new one which was a model two years newer than the one i had. A 2000 dollar laptop, so that was a good story. But hey everyone has different experiences and i don't blame you for not wanting to deal with them.
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Alright time for some more Apple news in the Apple thread...
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/13/apple-soars-to-third-place-in-u-s-pc-market-with-10-7-share/
Apple Soars to Third Place in U.S. PC Market With 10.7% Share
Research firms Gartner and IDC today released their preliminary quarterly personal computer shipment data, offering up a picture of market performance during the second quarter of 2011. Overall, the PC industry exhibited small growth on a worldwide scale, with unit shipments growing by about 2.5% between the second quarters of 2010 and 2011. But shipments in the U.S. actually declined year-over-year by about 4-6% according to the two firms. Gartner in particular points to the iPad as having had a detrimental effect on PC shipments for the quarter.
"Given the hype around media tablets such as the iPad, retailers were very conservative in placing orders for PCs. Instead, they wanted to secure space for media tablets. Some PC vendors had to lower their inventory through promotions, while others slimmed their product lines at retailers," [Gartner analyst Mikako] Kitagawa said.
According to Gartner's report, Apple surged into third place in the U.S. market, up from fifth place a year ago and even as recently as last quarter, grabbing a 10.7% share, up significantly from an 8.5% share in the prior-year quarter.
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Apple's U.S. Market Share Trend: 1Q06-2Q11 (Gartner)
Apple's U.S. unit growth for the quarter was 8.5% year-over-year according to Gartner, well ahead of the overall U.S. industry trend of a 5.6% decline. Only Toshiba at 3.3% joined Apple among the Top 5 manufacturers increasing their shipments year-over-year.
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Gartner's Preliminary U.S. PC Vendor Unit Shipment Estimates for 2Q11 (Thousands of Units)
IDC's report offers a similarly rosy picture for Apple, pegging its year-over-year unit growth in the U.S. at an even more substantial 14.7% while Toshiba at 3.7% was again seen as the only other member of the U.S. Top 5 to see year-over-year growth. Combined with Acer's sales plunging by over 25%, Apple's growth puts it in third place behind market leaders HP and Dell according to IDC's data, matching the 10.7% share seen by Gartner. Overall, IDC pegs the PC industry as having shrunk by 4.2% year-over-year.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/13/ios-5-beta-3-adds-airplay-support-for-facetime/
iOS 5 Beta 3 Adds AirPlay Support for FaceTime
(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/07/facetime_over_airplay.jpg)
As noted by TiPb, the third beta of iOS 5 released earlier this week has activated new AirPlay streaming support for FaceTime video calling. The feature allows users to display FaceTime video calls directly on a large-screen TV for easy viewing by larger groups of people.
If this makes it into the final release — and not everything does — it’ll be fantastic for families and businesses alike.
The ability to easily start a video call and beam it onto the big screen is compelling. Whether it’s grandpa and grandma, or the team in England, it takes FaceTime from a small, personal experience to a big, group experience at the touch of a button.
With the FaceTime camera of course remaining on the iOS device itself, users taking advantage of the new AirPlay feature while participating in a FaceTime video call will need to ensure that they are looking in the proper direction, but it certainly appears that FaceTime over AirPlay does add some utility for video calling in group settings.
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So i made this desert for a get together i'm going to today. It's called a "Chocolate Steve Jobs" IT OWNS.
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Where's that facepalm emote when you need it?
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My grandmother made this desert a few years ago. She named it after her friend who showed it to her. Called it a Chocolate Margie. Well it's now a Chocolate Steve Jobs.
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My grandmother made this desert a few years ago. She named it after her friend who showed it to her. Called it a Chocolate Margie. Well it's now a Chocolate Steve Jobs.
This desert?
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2886320940_62346b5571.jpg)
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Nah, it's a tad too colorful.
And it looks a tad mainstream.
And genuine in its being dressed like a desert.
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Steve Jobs stole the whole turtleneck thing from Archer.
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Steve Jobs stole the whole turtleneck thing from Archer.
Hell, Bill Cosby was deckin' the neck bout two decades and a half before Archer was even haphazardly scribbled in Flash.
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Remember the time the joke.
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Remember the time the joke.
That was almost as bad as that one time there was this irrelevant-to-the-plot-80s-reference!
(https://images.wikia.com/familyguy/images/a/a3/Fat_Albert_Cosby_Kids.png)
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OSX Lion comes out today. SWEET.
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MacBook Air costs $999. That shit is very expensive. :|
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(https://files.sharenator.com/Steve_Jobs_Bill_Gates_on_Netbook_Remember_when_I_said_that_netbooks_arent_good_at_anything-s450x861-99862.jpg)
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:lol
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:lol Nice.
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You can't seriously be calling a mbair a net book. :facepalm:
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And that sound is the joke going over tj's head.
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Lion reviews are coming out. Very interesting. I'm downloading now.
Now that Lion has been released, NDA's are lifted and reviews are starting to come in. Here are some choice excerpts:
David Pogue - New York Times:
In Mac OS X 10.7, known as Lion, Apple went with the “shake things up” philosophy. It follows an old Apple pattern: embrace what’s cool and progressive, and ruthlessly jettison what it considers antiquated. That’s great if you love stuff that’s cool and progressive, and not so great if you hate people moving your cheese...
The Lion upgrade, in other words, is classic Apple: innovative to some, gimmicky to others, big leaps forward, a few stumbles back. It may never be the king of the jungle. But once the world’s software companies have fully Lionized their wares, and once Apple exterminates the bugs, Mac OS X 10.7 might be something even more exotic: a fast, powerful, good-looking, virus-free, thoroughly modern operating system.
Walt Mossberg - All Things Digital / Wall Street Journal:
There are, however, downsides to anything this new and major. In my view, the biggest of these is that switching to Lion will require a major adjustment even for veteran Mac users, though it will be easier for those who use iPhones or iPads. Lion will significantly increase the learning curve for Windows users switching to the Mac...
Lion is very different. It’s a big leap, and gives the Mac a much more modern look and feel for a world of tablets and smartphones. If you are willing to adjust, it’s the best computer operating system out there.
Harry McCracken - Time:
Most of the highest-profile changes share a unifying principle: They make a Mac feel a little less like a cranky, complicated personal computer, and a little more like a 21st-century appliance...
Lion feels, to revive an old OS X tagline, like a new Mac for your Mac. At $129, it would have been a meaty good value. At $29.99, it's a steal — the no-brainer upgrade that defines the notion of a no-brainer upgrade.
John Siracusa - Ars Technica (a staggeringly long review):
Though the Lion name suggests the end of something, the content of the operating system itself clearly marks the start of a new journey. Seemingly emboldened by the success of iOS, Apple has taken a hatchet to decades of conventional wisdom about desktop operating systems.
Matthew Panzarino - The Next Web:
Yeah, yeah, but should I buy it?
The short answer is yes. OS X Lion offers enough value in its security enhancements and improvements to features like Exposé and Spaces, in the form of Mission Control, to justify the $29.99 price tag alone. There’s really very little reason not to purchase the upgrade if you’re already a Mac user on Snow Leopard.
So, Lion appears to be worth $29.99 but as with any dot-zero release, users are encouraged to backup first and be careful about using it for mission-critical applications until Apple -- and your fellow users -- have gotten all the bugs out.
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So basically I picked the wrong time to upgrade to Mac.
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So basically I picked the wrong time to upgrade to Mac.
And why is that?
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I was charged 4 times for Lion. COOOOOOOOOOOL. *edit* Just refunded me.
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Ok some of these new features are :hefdaddy Well Done. Well Done. I didn't know how I was going to feel about all the changes but using them is extremely intuitive.
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While I do want this, apparently Pro Tools 8LE isn't supported yet, so I'm scared to upgrade and have it not work.
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best to wait then because some stuff may take a bit to be compatible as expected. Really avid's fault because the Developer previews have been out a long time now. Very odd.
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One thing i'm noticing.. They are really doing away with the standard mouse. About time really but the interface is gesture heavy now. So that means laptop trackpad. Apple Trackpad or magic mouse. i have a magic mouse and a laptop trackpad so i'm set but for those without the interface will be a different experience and less productive.
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wha...why?
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because the way this works now with the full screen apps is based off of gestures and you can really do them with a standard mouse.
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You mean can't, right?
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You mean can't, right?
correct. Sorry for typo.
Look here to see what i'm talking about...
https://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/gestures.html (https://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/gestures.html)
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ENGADGET REVIEW
https://www.engadget.com/2011/07/20/apple-os-x-lion-10-7-review/
Apple OS X Lion (10.7)
Apple
$29
11/30/99 (This date is clearly wrong)
SCORE: 8/10
THE GOOD
- AirDrop allows for file sharing over WiFi
- Resume, Auto Save, and Versions protect data
- Supports more multi-touch gestures
THE BAD
- End of Rosetta support
- Some program incompatibility
- Snow Leopard required for installation
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How can a journalist get away with lying like that? Snow leopard is not required. WTF?
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because the way this works now with the full screen apps is based off of gestures and you can really do them with a standard mouse.
Yeah, all a standard mouse can do is navigate quickly and efficiently. With gestures, you can feel like you're a COMPUTER DJ! WOO!
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because the way this works now with the full screen apps is based off of gestures and you can really do them with a standard mouse.
Yeah, all a standard mouse can do is navigate quickly and efficiently. With gestures, you can feel like you're a COMPUTER DJ! WOO!
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Mouse gestures are so fucking annoying. I really don't see the purpose.
How can a journalist get away with lying like that? Snow leopard is not required. WTF?
I doubt he was lying outright, probably just a misunderstanding, because doesn't it require Snow Leopard to download the update?
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Mouse gestures are so fucking annoying. I really don't see the purpose.
How can a journalist get away with lying like that? Snow leopard is not required. WTF?
I doubt he was lying outright, probably just a misunderstanding, because doesn't it require Snow Leopard to download the update?
Ok if you have a mac you already have Snow leopard. It's been out for years now. Once you download the update you are free to burn it to a disc or put it on a usb drive. Then you can do a clean install no Snow leopard required. If you buy a new mac it comes with lion. But it's not a requirement to have snow leopard to install Lion, that's not true. You can do a fresh clean install without SL.
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Mouse gestures are so fucking annoying. I really don't see the purpose.
How can a journalist get away with lying like that? Snow leopard is not required. WTF?
I doubt he was lying outright, probably just a misunderstanding, because doesn't it require Snow Leopard to download the update?
Also until you use it, it's hard to see the purpose. I was on the fence about it but now i see the advantages. They redesigned the UI interaction, it's much improved and i never had an issue in the first place but this is another step forward.
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wow did not expect this. Impressive and this also means mbPro is due for a refresh very soon...
Electricpig reports that early benchmarking data obtained by Laptopmag.com from Apple's new MacBook Air models released today demonstrate significant performance improvements over the previous generation and even other Apple notebooks. Testing was performed using the Geekbench benchmarking tools.
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According to the report, not only do the new MacBook Air models at least double the scores of the previous generation in testing with Geekbench, but the new machines also compare extremely favorably to even high-end MacBook Pro models from last year.
Quote:
The new 13-inch MacBook Air earned a Geekbench score of 5860, a bump in performance of over 100 percent compared to last year's model. The 11-inch MacBook Air was even more impressive, skyrocketing from 2024 to 5040 for 149 percent increase.
To put these benchmarks into perspective, the 2010 17-inch 2.67 GHz Core i7 MacBook Pro scored 5423. For Ł849 the 11-inch MacBook Air offers a benchmark on par with last year's Ł2099 17-inch MacBook Pro.
Geekbench testing focuses on processor and memory performance, providing comparisons of raw power between machines but only telling part of the story. Consequently, it remains to be seen how the new MacBook Air models will stack up in real-world situations, but early indications suggest that Apple's ultraportable lineup has indeed received a major increase in performance.
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How can a journalist get away with lying like that? Snow leopard is not required. WTF?
I doubt he was lying outright, probably just a misunderstanding, because doesn't it require Snow Leopard to download the update?
Ok if you have a mac you already have Snow leopard. It's been out for years now. Once you download the update you are free to burn it to a disc or put it on a usb drive. Then you can do a clean install no Snow leopard required. If you buy a new mac it comes with lion. But it's not a requirement to have snow leopard to install Lion, that's not true. You can do a fresh clean install without SL.
But you had to have access to Snow Leopard to do this. Not ever Mac user is on Snow Leopard who could be. I'm sure half of them don't even know/give a fuck as to what Snow Leopard is. And whether they care about it or not, the point of the matter is that *at the moment* they cannot upgrade directly to Lion. They must first install SL, or find someone who has SL and a DVD burner, and then proceed.
All of this said, Apple will be selling it on a Flash Drive soon apparently. But soon is not today, so until that happens, yea you need SL to upgrade to Lion.
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Yeah, it seems like you currently need Snow Leopard to acquire Lion, but not to install it. Why that is is completely beyond me, but whatever.
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Yeah, it seems like you currently need Snow Leopard to acquire Lion, but not to install it. Why that is is completely beyond me, but whatever.
Because the Mac App Store only works on snow leopard. Just as certain applications only work on W7 and not XP etc. There is no story here really. Who is using a mac and doesn't use Snow leopard? It's been out for years now. It's not like it's new. Besides if you never upgraded to snow leopard odds are you are using a very old computer that Lion won't run on anyway. So basically it's a non issue. Most everyone who has a computer that can run Lion has snow leopard already and can download it. IT's not needed to install and Apple will be selling a USB drive for those with capped internet. SL not required there either.
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How can a journalist get away with lying like that? Snow leopard is not required. WTF?
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/os-x-lion/id444303913?mt=12&ls=1
Requirements: Mac OS X 10.6.6 or later
https://www.apple.com/macosx/how-to-buy/
Step 1:
Make sure your Mac can run Lion.
Step 2:
Make sure you have the latest version of Snow Leopard.
Step 3:
Download OS X Lion from the Mac App Store.
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Like i Said it's not required to install Lion. It's required if you want to download lion. But you can do a fresh install without SL or get the USB drive.
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But currently there's no way to get it besides downloading, so the reviewer is, for all intents and purposes, correct.
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I here what you are saying and you are correct but at the same time he said this...
Snow Leopard required for installation
That is not true. Once you have it, you never have to see SL again if you don't want.
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You mean can't, right?
correct. Sorry for typo.
Look here to see what i'm talking about...
https://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/gestures.html (https://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/gestures.html)
Seems nifty but I had to laugh at:
The scroll bar that wasn’t.
In OS X Lion, the scroll bar appears only when you scroll. So it doesn’t get in the way of the content on the screen.
I can not for the life of me remember a time when I've heard someone say the scroll bar blocks content on the screen. That extra 1/4" on the side isn't hurting webpages or documents at all. In fact pages are designed to fit the scrollbar. Apple: C'mon son.
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But currently there's no way to get it besides downloading, so the reviewer is, for all intents and purposes, correct.
This. The workaround you're mentioning, TJ, would require a fresh install as opposed to an in place upgrade, which I'm pretty sure the average Mac (heh) won't appreciate.
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But currently there's no way to get it besides downloading, so the reviewer is, for all intents and purposes, correct.
This. The workaround you're mentioning, TJ, would require a fresh install as opposed to an in place upgrade, which I'm pretty sure the average Mac (heh) won't appreciate.
What do you mean average Mac (heh)?
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You mean can't, right?
correct. Sorry for typo.
Look here to see what i'm talking about...
https://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/gestures.html (https://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/gestures.html)
Seems nifty but I had to laugh at:
The scroll bar that wasn’t.
In OS X Lion, the scroll bar appears only when you scroll. So it doesn’t get in the way of the content on the screen.
I can not for the life of me remember a time when I've heard someone say the scroll bar blocks content on the screen. That extra 1/4" on the side isn't hurting webpages or documents at all. In fact pages are designed to fit the scrollbar. Apple: C'mon son.
I'm using it right now and it is a nice subtle features that enhances the UI. It's the same way in IOS which i prefer of the standard scrollbars. I'm glad they included it here.
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But currently there's no way to get it besides downloading, so the reviewer is, for all intents and purposes, correct.
This. The workaround you're mentioning, TJ, would require a fresh install as opposed to an in place upgrade, which I'm pretty sure the average Mac (heh) won't appreciate.
What do you mean average Mac (heh)?
It was a Joe-k.
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I'm using it right now and it is a nice subtle features that enhances the UI. It's the same way in IOS which i prefer of the standard scrollbars. I'm glad they included it here.
I bet, it's just the way they're marketing it. They're making up a solution to a "problem" that absolutely 100% does not exist.
Yeah, it seems like you currently need Snow Leopard to acquire Lion, but not to install it. Why that is is completely beyond me, but whatever.
Because Apple hasn't realized that most of their user base has figured out that they don't really need to spend money on those unnecessary upgrades every time Apple makes a slight tweak to their products every six months or so.
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Come on, the new Mac OS has a full screen grid of apps! I mean, sure, Windows 3.1 had that too, but they called them "icons", which isn't nearly as hip.
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Come on, the new Mac OS has a full screen grid of apps! I mean, sure, Windows 3.1 had that too, but they called them "icons", which isn't nearly as hip.
I can never tell when people are serious or joking on here. I'm going to assume you are joking, not about Windows 3.1 but about the comparison.
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I'm using it right now and it is a nice subtle features that enhances the UI. It's the same way in IOS which i prefer of the standard scrollbars. I'm glad they included it here.
I bet, it's just the way they're marketing it. They're making up a solution to a "problem" that absolutely 100% does not exist.
Yeah, it seems like you currently need Snow Leopard to acquire Lion, but not to install it. Why that is is completely beyond me, but whatever.
Because Apple hasn't realized that most of their user base has figured out that they don't really need to spend money on those unnecessary upgrades every time Apple makes a slight tweak to their products every six months or so.
It's been 4 years since they have put user features in the OS. Two years ago was a performance upgrade with no new end user features really. So this is a pretty big upgrade for the mac. There are a ton of new little things that i'm noticing that are QUITE welcome aside from the major new enhancements. Day 1 is going well so far...
The last release that had end user features was FAR from 6 months ago. It was actually October 26 2007
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Come on, the new Mac OS has a full screen grid of apps! I mean, sure, Windows 3.1 had that too, but they called them "icons", which isn't nearly as hip.
I can never tell when people are serious or joking on here. I'm going to assume you are joking, not about Windows 3.1 but about the comparison.
I would like you to explain to me how having 'apps' on your desktop is different from having icons on your desktop.
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They aren't on the desktop. At all.
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Reading this thread gives me lols. Thank you tj. :lol :lol
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They aren't on the desktop. At all.
Okay then, where are they, and how are they different from program/shortcut icons?
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They aren't on the desktop. At all.
Okay then, where are they, and how are they different from program/shortcut icons?
I'm glad you asked. i JUST made a video for you. Uploading to youtube now. =)
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OK HERE IT IS... THE MOMENT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR...
MY LAUNCHPAD DEMO! Also a couple other things but yeah... CLICK 720P!
https://youtu.be/nFHK1ncXxlQ (https://youtu.be/nFHK1ncXxlQ)
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This is the only Mac related video worth watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCEQZ_4V7NY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I think the the Lion features in the video would have impressed me more if I hadn't experienced most of them already using gnome3.
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Okay, apple users, where can I find a DVD Audio Extractor for free for a mac that will extract the entire song? The two free trial ones I found only let you go up to three minutes per song. On my old PC, I was able to easily find a trial version that let you extract the whole songs.
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So basically I picked the wrong time to upgrade to Mac.
And why is that?
Because right now everything is in flux and trying to fit into the new way Steve Jobs has deigned worthy for us to use his computers. Fortunately school hasn't started yet so I still have time to wait for Apple to do things they should have done in the first place such as multicam editing in Final Cut.
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OK HERE IT IS... THE MOMENT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR...
MY LAUNCHPAD DEMO! Also a couple other things but yeah... CLICK 720P!
https://youtu.be/nFHK1ncXxlQ (https://youtu.be/nFHK1ncXxlQ)
So "fullscreen applications" are literally just programs? Like, what almost every computer has had since the invention of the GUI? I can quickly and easily navigate 'full screen apps' on my computer too. See, the programs I have running are all on this bar at the bottom of the screen. If I click one of these bars, it instantly brings that program to the foreground! Amazing! I really don't see how gestures make that any faster/easier/better.
As for 'mission control', all I have to say is alt+tab. Also, WindowsButton+Tab if you want the same thing with a cool visual.
I fail to see how anything I saw there is 'revolutionary' or even new. I really don't see how gestures are better than just using a mouse. It feels like Apple just gave hip names to a bunch of existing things.
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I've grown to hate being a mac user. People are so shitty to you when they find out you use one.
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I've grown to hate being a mac user. People are so shitty to you when they find out you use one.
Well if you just happen to use a Mac, that's fine. The problem is when you have Mac users that are acting like having a Mac is the most amazing, revolutionary thing ever, when it really isn't. For example, when you run into a Mac user bragging about 'full screen apps' as if they're not literally just programs.
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I don't do that at all. They take one look at my computer and unleash a flurry of nonsense like, "Oooooh, well, excuse ME, your majesty! But shouldn't you be in a coffee shop listening to indie music and reminding everyone of how much better you are than them?" "You use a mac? Ugh, what the fuck, man?" Or they just laugh. I guess having a mac is indicative of my character.
I like my computer. It's fast. It's slick. It does everything I need it to do. I don't even get involved with all of the fancy apps and modulations they make. I don't act snide or condescending towards other people based on what computer they use. They should have the courtesy to treat me the same way.
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Unfortunately, the vocal minority of stereotypical annoying Mac users have ruined it for anyone who owns a Mac. I agree, it's not right for people to lash out at you if you're not being obnoxious about it.
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Okay, apple users, where can I find a DVD Audio Extractor for free for a mac that will extract the entire song? The two free trial ones I found only let you go up to three minutes per song. On my old PC, I was able to easily find a trial version that let you extract the whole songs.
Can't you import the DVD in iMovie or something? Via iDVD.
EDIT: I don't know if this is at all possible but I would try playing the DVD on your mac, connecting your line-out to your line-in and record it in Garageband.
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listening to indie music
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Just installed Lion. Love it so far. Mission Control is ace. Having three individual desktops is awesome. much less clutter. :coolio
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Because no one replied to my stupid thread and I just realized there's a general Mac thread:
Is Boot Camp installation a pretty safe process, the download, install and partition? Because it's telling me to back up my hard drive before proceeding and I don't have an external device onto which I can back things up in case things go awry. I guess I want to know whether all hell can indeed break loose if something goes wrong. Also is there anything else I should know going into this?
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I've grown to hate being a mac user. People are so shitty to you when they find out you use one.
Well if you just happen to use a Mac, that's fine. The problem is when you have Mac users that are acting like having a Mac is the most amazing, revolutionary thing ever, when it really isn't. For example, when you run into a Mac user bragging about 'full screen apps' as if they're not literally just programs.
Did i ever say full screen apps were new? It's the way it's implemented in the OS with gestures that is very cool. And No Mission Control is not what you said, it's a new way of doing Expose which OSX has had since 2003 or so. I didn't even demo that properly i just showed it for one second. Jesus christ people get so upset over nothing really. Look I have Windows 7, i know how it works as well. This works differently when you use it. When did I say in the video that PC users are shit or stupid or anything like that? I didn't i was just really trying to show the launchpad because that's what was in question. I can't believe how much people are being dicks over a fucking computer.
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Because no one replied to my stupid thread and I just realized there's a general Mac thread:
Is Boot Camp installation a pretty safe process, the download, install and partition? Because it's telling me to back up my hard drive before proceeding and I don't have an external device onto which I can back things up in case things go awry. I guess I want to know whether all hell can indeed break loose if something goes wrong. Also is there anything else I should know going into this?
I have done it a few times. I have W7 on my boot camp in case i ever need it for anything school related basically. Always back up your HD whenever you are doing anything like that. just incase...
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Okay, apple users, where can I find a DVD Audio Extractor for free for a mac that will extract the entire song? The two free trial ones I found only let you go up to three minutes per song. On my old PC, I was able to easily find a trial version that let you extract the whole songs.
Can you explain what you mean more? Are you saying concert DVD? You can use Handbrake to rip and chapters or titles you want from any DVD and it's free. I use it all the time.
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I've grown to hate being a mac user. People are so shitty to you when they find out you use one.
Well if you just happen to use a Mac, that's fine. The problem is when you have Mac users that are acting like having a Mac is the most amazing, revolutionary thing ever, when it really isn't. For example, when you run into a Mac user bragging about 'full screen apps' as if they're not literally just programs.
Did i ever say full screen apps were new? It's the way it's implemented in the OS with gestures that is very cool. And No Mission Control is not what you said, it's a new way of doing Expose which OSX has had since 2003 or so. I didn't even demo that properly i just showed it for one second. Jesus christ people get so upset over nothing really. Look I have Windows 7, i know how it works as well. This works differently when you use it. When did I say in the video that PC users are shit or stupid or anything like that? I didn't i was just really trying to show the launchpad because that's what was in question. I can't believe how much people are being dicks over a fucking computer.
Will you at least admit that "full screen apps" are literally just programs? Also, how is the 'grid of apps' not just icons on a desktop? It's the main screen on your computer, with tiles consisting of a picture and text, that either open a program when selected, or act as a shortcut.
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I've grown to hate being a mac user. People are so shitty to you when they find out you use one.
Well if you just happen to use a Mac, that's fine. The problem is when you have Mac users that are acting like having a Mac is the most amazing, revolutionary thing ever, when it really isn't. For example, when you run into a Mac user bragging about 'full screen apps' as if they're not literally just programs.
Did i ever say full screen apps were new? It's the way it's implemented in the OS with gestures that is very cool. And No Mission Control is not what you said, it's a new way of doing Expose which OSX has had since 2003 or so. I didn't even demo that properly i just showed it for one second. Jesus christ people get so upset over nothing really. Look I have Windows 7, i know how it works as well. This works differently when you use it. When did I say in the video that PC users are shit or stupid or anything like that? I didn't i was just really trying to show the launchpad because that's what was in question. I can't believe how much people are being dicks over a fucking computer.
Will you at least admit that "full screen apps" are literally just programs? Also, how is the 'grid of apps' not just icons on a desktop? It's the main screen on your computer, with tiles consisting of a picture and text, that either open a program when selected, or act as a shortcut.
They are nothing more than applications in full screen mode. It's the implementation within the OS that is new.
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Absolutely nothing in that video was new or innovative in any way, at all.
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Just saying that you can't burn lion to a boot disc.
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Just saying that you can't burn lion to a boot disc.
Why not? You can make it a bootable USB drive why couldn't make a bootable disc?
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Absolutely nothing in that video was new or innovative in any way, at all.
false.
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:rollin
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:rollin
which bear is best?
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Just saying that you can't burn lion to a boot disc.
Why not? You can make it a bootable USB drive why couldn't make a bootable disc?
'cause I read here (https://www.eggfreckles.net/tech/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/) that you have to do some stuff to make it work.
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Just saying that you can't burn lion to a boot disc.
Why not? You can make it a bootable USB drive why couldn't make a bootable disc?
'cause I read here (https://www.eggfreckles.net/tech/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/) that you have to do some stuff to make it work.
I just read it. It shows you exactly how to burn it to a boot disc. Are we reading something different? lol Actually it's easier than that. Rick click on lion and show package contents. Drag the dmg file to your desktop. Put it toast and burn as boot disc. Very easy. Or if you don't have toast just do it this way.
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Just saying that you can't burn lion to a boot disc.
Why not? You can make it a bootable USB drive why couldn't make a bootable disc?
'cause I read here (https://www.eggfreckles.net/tech/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/) that you have to do some stuff to make it work.
I just read it. It shows you exactly how to burn it to a boot disc. Are we reading something different? lol Actually it's easier than that. Rick click on lion and show package contents. Drag the dmg file to your desktop. Put it toast and burn as boot disc. Very easy. Or if you don't have toast just do it this way.
"I thought that in the absence of Apple installation media using a full Lion installation on and external drive would be the easiest way to perform a clean install. I was wrong. Apple's official Lion Installation Media was under my nose the entire time, and I am going to show you how to get it."
How does that in anyway indicate that this is the "way to do it"?
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I don't do that at all. They take one look at my computer and unleash a flurry of nonsense like, "Oooooh, well, excuse ME, your majesty! But shouldn't you be in a coffee shop listening to indie music and reminding everyone of how much better you are than them?" "You use a mac? Ugh, what the fuck, man?" Or they just laugh. I guess having a mac is indicative of my character.
I like my computer. It's fast. It's slick. It does everything I need it to do. I don't even get involved with all of the fancy apps and modulations they make. I don't act snide or condescending towards other people based on what computer they use. They should have the courtesy to treat me the same way.
I've never ever in my life seen that happen. If it does happen it's probably because of a provocation.
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I'm presuming that most of these gesture things require a trackpad to use, thus making them moderately useless on a desktop?
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Apple mice have gesture abilities built in. They also sell a giant track pound to replace the mouse of you want.
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And So it begins. I mentioned before that Apple Should buy netflix. Well this would be a good start. As an investor i'm excited for these new acquisitions if they happen...
Apple Considering a Bid For Hulu?
Apple is considering a bid for Hulu, the online streaming service, according to a report from Bloomberg:
Apple Inc. is considering making a bid for the Hulu online video service, according to two people with knowledge of the auction.
Apple is in early talks that may lead to an acquisition offer for Los Angeles-based Hulu, said the people, who weren’t authorized to speak publicly.
There are several companies considering making offers for Hulu, with Yahoo reportedly making a bid of $2 billion but the company wanted a five-year exclusive on streaming content. Google, AT&T and a number of other companies are also in the mix, though Microsoft reportedly dropped out of the bidding earlier this week.
If sold, Hulu would retain its exclusive content licenses from current owners Disney (where Steve Jobs is a major shareholder and sits on the board) FOX/News Corp., and Comcast/NBC.
This week Apple reported that it had $76.2 billion in cash and marketable securities on hand. In October, Steve Jobs said of the cash pile, "we strongly believe that one or more very strategic opportunities may come along that we can take that we're in a unique position to take advantage of because of our strong cash position."
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So Hulu wouldn't be free anymore would it?
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So Hulu wouldn't be free anymore would it?
Way to early to speculate on that. Who knows what would happen.
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So, apparently, Lion got a registered one million downloads in its first day of availability.
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I've grown to hate being a mac user. People are so shitty to you when they find out you use one.
:lol
This.
I'm presuming that most of these gesture things require a trackpad to use, thus making them moderately useless on a desktop?
I use a magic mouse and I really like the new gestures. Two finger swipe between Fullscreen apps, double tab with two fingers for mission control. I was also really impressed with the new gestures within Safari, revealing previous pages like it's iBooks or something. Really cool.
You know what's real fucking stupid? Launchpad. (Maybe I only feel that way because it can't be easily accessed with the magic mouse.) And I do not see the point of pressing an icon in the dock to reveal another set of icons, when I could have just had the icon in the dock. I much prefer the Applications folder on the righthand side of the dock personally. Which I guess is kind of the same. But anyways, not a huge fan, but I just don't use it.
...And I'm an Apple Fanboy.
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Launchpad is great. The fact that there is no gesture for it YET on the magic mouse is STUPID. Hopefully that will change soon or Magic Prefs will probably update to it very soon. Magic prefs is awesome with the magic mouse.
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Ok this is a perfect example of the Apple hate that i don't understand. So deadmau5 posts a picture of his new T shirt he's going to sell. Fine. He happens to have purchased a new Mac pro apparently. There should be nothing strange or odd about this. But yet look at some of these Brilliant comments on the photo...
(https://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205885_10150258568346806_9980651805_7818528_4194630_n.jpg)
"Not sure whats more disturbing..
Some fella obssed with his cat or that "Mac Pro" u have their??"
"MAC PRO EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW"
" 1 i want ur hat 2 i want ur cat (oh yea it ryhmes im awesome) 3 y u use mac?"
"Mac Pro... gay"
"Ew Mac :'("
"mac pro u disgust me"
and my favorite..
"Dodds macs are for faggots."
there are TONS of these on that one picture. If i saw a picture and a box for a Sony computer was in it I wouldn't think twice about it. I could care LESS what fucking computer someone uses. Deadmau5 used to be Pc based and he switched to Macs. Ok obviously there is a reason for it and he likes them better. Doesn't mean you have to and it doesn't mean people should be called faggots for using one either. Really these people are morons but i see it all over the place. This is the type of shit raven was talking about i believe and it's way more common than someone with a mac doing the same to a windows user, at least from what i see.
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All I can say is, personally, I only give Mac users a hard time when they're being obnoxious about being Mac users. If they just happen to own a Mac product, whatever.
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What kind of person looks at someones picture and comments..
"Mac ewwwwwwwwwwww" or "Android EWwwwwwwwwwwwwwww", etc. I mean you really have to be a HUGE fucking loser to do that. Busting balls for fun is one thing if you know someone. But randomly picking out tech in a picture to say ewwwwwwwwwwww about? I hate the human race with all my heart.
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I've dealt with it on occasion. I don't get it why people acquire such massive superiority complexes over what kind of computers they use.
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Ewwwww...cats.
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Ok this is a perfect example of the Apple hate that i don't understand. So deadmau5 posts a picture of his new T shirt he's going to sell. Fine. He happens to have purchased a new Mac pro apparently. There should be nothing strange or odd about this. But yet look at some of these Brilliant comments on the photo...
*snip*
"Not sure whats more disturbing..
Some fella obssed with his cat or that "Mac Pro" u have their??"
"MAC PRO EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW"
" 1 i want ur hat 2 i want ur cat (oh yea it ryhmes im awesome) 3 y u use mac?"
"Mac Pro... gay"
"Ew Mac :'("
"mac pro u disgust me"
and my favorite..
"Dodds macs are for faggots."
there are TONS of these on that one picture. If i saw a picture and a box for a Sony computer was in it I wouldn't think twice about it. I could care LESS what fucking computer someone uses. Deadmau5 used to be Pc based and he switched to Macs. Ok obviously there is a reason for it and he likes them better. Doesn't mean you have to and it doesn't mean people should be called faggots for using one either. Really these people are morons but i see it all over the place. This is the type of shit raven was talking about i believe and it's way more common than someone with a mac doing the same to a windows user, at least from what i see.
I think you're taking facebook comments a bit too seriously - they're like half a notch above youtube comments in quality.
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What kind of person looks at someones picture and comments..
"Mac ewwwwwwwwwwww" or "Android EWwwwwwwwwwwwwwww", etc. I mean you really have to be a HUGE fucking loser to do that. Busting balls for fun is one thing if you know someone. But randomly picking out tech in a picture to say ewwwwwwwwwwww about? I hate the human race with all my heart.
I agree with you on this (so now we've got this and 'Black Swan' being awesome. :p).
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The picture is strange though. I can hardly see the shirt clearly. But the box is right there in the way.
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Doesn't really have anything to do with anything, but a cool analysis of the logo.
(https://i.imgur.com/zCbHw.jpg)
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I like how the magenta box doesn't line up or prove anything in that picture.
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The entire picture seems to be just a bunch of circles lined up over the logo.
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Fake Apple Stores in China:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14236786
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Yeah, saw that the other day. People are raging about it.
Don't see why really. They're still selling official Apple products.
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Ewwwww...cats.
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Apple really need to get the Safari memory leak sorted out in Lion, after a couple of hours of surfing it's using nearly 3GB of RAM on my MBP. I'm just waiting for Chrome to be updated to take full advantage of Lion's gestures.
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I like how the magenta box doesn't line up or prove anything in that picture.
uhhh isn't it supposed to be a Fibonacci spiral?
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Yeah, its the golden spiral.
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I'm having a problem with what I guess must be Flash, because I can't watch videos on YouTube or any other video search engine and I can't play Flash games online. For some reason the video or screen or whatever never loads or something so on YouTube I'm left with a black screen for example. And I have tried CTRL-clicking and I can't get a tab to open up options or anything.
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I'm having a problem with what I guess must be Flash, because I can't watch videos on YouTube or any other video search engine and I can't play Flash games online. For some reason the video or screen or whatever never loads or something so on YouTube I'm left with a black screen for example. And I have tried CTRL-clicking and I can't get a tab to open up options or anything.
I had to download Flash again after I installed Lion.
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I'm using Safari. And it's not like I'm getting that error message "You need to install Adobe Flashplayer" or anything.
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I'm using Safari. And it's not like I'm getting that error message "You need to install Adobe Flashplayer" or anything.
I did not have that problem while updating. But i know Apple said they are not pre installing flash on new macs so maybe you do have to install flash. Don't know why i didn't have to.
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Also it's not a new Mac.
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Neither is mine but I still had to re-install Flash for some reason.
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Weird. Anyway, I reinstalled it just a while ago and then restarted my laptop and that seems to be working so far.
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I like how the magenta box doesn't line up or prove anything in that picture.
uhhh isn't it supposed to be a Fibonacci spiral?
And? It's just randomly placed in the picture.
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Today, I had the magical cell phone people turn my droid into an iPhone. :smiley:
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Today, I had the magical cell phone people turn my droid into an iPhone. :smiley:
Awesome. :tup I have a 3GS but plan to upgrade it once the new iPhone gets released. Which they better damn well do soon! :censored
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Today, I had the magical cell phone people turn my droid into an iPhone. :smiley:
Awesome. :tup I have a 3GS but plan to upgrade it once the new iPhone gets released. Which they better damn well do soon! :censored
BGR reports that AT&T is beginning preparations for an expected "early to mid-September" launch of the next-generation iPhone, in line with launch rumors and expectations and other reports of Apple beefing up its retail store staffing over a similar timeframe.
BGR has exclusively learned that AT&T has begun communicating launch plans internally for Apple’s next-generation iPhone 5 handset. We have been told that AT&T has begun informing employees across the company, and those who work in retail locations, to finish any sort of employee training as soon as possible. AT&T is asking managers to finish training in order to have employees available for the influx of foot traffic expected in September, a proven source has shared with us.
Apple has been preparing to increase staffing at its retail stores in the United States and United Kingdom, and rumors have suggested that Apple will use its traditional fall iPod media event to introduce the next-generation iPhone this year. That event has typically taken place in early September, although some reports have pushed that date up into late August this year ahead of a September launch for the device. Apple has announced that iOS 5 will debut this "fall", and that software launch will undoubtedly occur right around the release of the next-generation hardware.
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Can you please post links to the articles you post?
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While it does sound likely that it will play out like that, I make a point not to trust any "source" and only Apple themselves.
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Can you please post links to the articles you post?
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https://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/25/att-reportedly-prepping-for-iphone-launch-in-early-to-mid-september/
There you go.
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Apparently people are raging because the Lion upgrade removed PowerPC support, which means all their old games no longer work. lol
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As Harry already pointed out here:
This is the only Mac related video worth watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCEQZ_4V7NY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Steam for Mac doesn't work, so I doubt they care. trolol
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Apparently people are raging because the Lion upgrade removed PowerPC support, which means all their old games no longer work. lol
They removed power pc support two years ago. The removed Rosetta this release and rightfully so. They have used intel for over 6 years now that's an eternity in computer years.
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Yeah but I can't play N anymore.
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Apparently people are raging because the Lion upgrade removed PowerPC support, which means all their old games no longer work. lol
They removed power pc support two years ago. The removed Rosetta this release and rightfully so. They have used intel for over 6 years now that's an eternity in computer years.
I can still run 15 year old software on my PC if I wish. What do apple lose by keeping Rosetta?
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Hey guys, I'm buying a MacBook Pro soon cuz I'm going to Music College in September. It needs to run Logic and cool shit like that well and without crashing (Macs don't crash, blahblahblah). Is the 15" worth getting over the 13"?
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Sure.
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Seeing as there isn't a 13" MacBook anymore, I'd say yes.
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Apparently people are raging because the Lion upgrade removed PowerPC support, which means all their old games no longer work. lol
They removed power pc support two years ago. The removed Rosetta this release and rightfully so. They have used intel for over 6 years now that's an eternity in computer years.
I can still run 15 year old software on my PC if I wish. What do apple lose by keeping Rosetta?
I so agree, I had one particular program that stopped working now...I don't really understand their reasoning for dropping Rosetta.
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So I downloaded the new iTunes 10.4.0.80 and guess what, if I add a new album to my iTunes and upload the artwork... it just won't work! It only shows a dark image...
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Seeing as there isn't a 13" MacBook anymore, I'd say yes.
https://www.apple.com/uk/macbookpro/
13", 15" and 17".
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Interesting, there was a rumor going around last week that they were no longer selling the 13", or maybe it was the entry-level 13" and I misread.
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Hehe:
(https://www.mobilemac.nl/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/oeps.jpg)
Apparently Vlaams Belang, an extreme-right party of Flanders (in Belgium), has been using that picture since 2004. I saw it on the news a few days ago (just that picture of Vlaams Belang, the news report was not related to Apple of course) and it turns out I'm not the first one to notice. :D
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Yeah it's probably just a stock photo.
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Yup. It was for sale for like €12 but it got pulled or something.
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Reminds me of that cruise line company using the same O as Opeth :lol
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Yeah it's probably just a stock photo.
At least it's not a stock photo of a unicyclist.
:neverusethis:
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:lol
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Reminds me of that cruise line company using the same O as Opeth :lol
It is a cool looking O, so I don't blame them.
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Reminds me of that cruise line company using the same O as Opeth :lol
It is a cool looking O, so I don't blame them.
:lol
Need a link to this pronto.
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(https://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7158/image4dp4.png)
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Quick google search:
(https://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7158/image4dp4.png)
EDIT: Damn!
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Scumbag iTunes!!! With their last update they make me save the high resolution album covers that I want, then I have to open the picture, copy it and then paste it to iTunes. BUT if I just click Copy Image -like I used to do- and then paste it in iTunes, it won't work...
Can anyone confirm please that I'm not the only one with this problem?
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Scumbag iTunes!!! With their last update they make me save the high resolution album covers that I want, then I have to open the picture, copy it and then paste it to iTunes. BUT if I just click Copy Image -like I used to do- and then paste it in iTunes, it won't work...
Can anyone confirm please that I'm not the only one with this problem?
I just did it with your avatar and it worked. Clicked on your avatar and copied image. Selected song, pushed Command I and pasted in the artwork section.
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Thanks!
Hmmm. So it must have been something with the Windows installer, maybe?
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Thanks!
Hmmm. So it must have been something with the Windows installer, maybe?
i'm using a Mac so i can't say for sure. how exactly are you doing it? Maybe a step by step would help.
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Before I installed the 10.4 version, I just right clicked, chose Copy Image, pasted it on iTunes and enjoyed my day. Now what it pastes it's a black (or blank) picture. But if I now save that same image to my computer and do the same copy and paste, in the words of Steve Jobs "it just works". And I don't want it to only work that way.
Anyway, I downloaded again the installer, "fixed" iTunes... and the problem is still there.
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WEll this is GREAT news...
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/05/apple-and-china-mobile-reportedly-strike-deal-to-bring-iphone-to-worlds-largest-carrier/
Apple and China Mobile Reportedly Strike Deal to Bring iPhone to World's Largest Carrier
A report from CapitalVue is making the rounds today for its claims that Apple has finally struck a deal with China Mobile to a launch the iPhone on the world's largest mobile carrier. China Mobile currently has over 600 million customers.
Unfortunately, the sourcing on the rumor is somewhat uncertain, as the report points to "a company filing" picked up by Chinese-language site ccidcom.com. An automated translation of the article suggests, however, that the report came from the Associated Press, and we have been unable to locate such an article.
But if ccidcom.com's report is indeed true, it suggests that China Mobile will initially introduce the iPhone 4 in October, to be followed later by the iPhone 5 and future 4G LTE models based on the carrier's homegrown TD-LTE standard.
China Mobile has long expressed interest in offering the iPhone, and with Apple making a strong push into China the carrier certainly has to be a priority for Apple even with the technical hurdles of China Mobile's unique network standards. Apple Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook was spotted at China Mobile's headquarters back in June, fueling speculation that a deal was being finalized. Just a few weeks later, a photo on an alleged China Mobile prototype iPhone 4 surfaced, further suggesting that a compatible device has indeed been in testing.
Apple currently offers the iPhone in China only through China Unicom, but has also been reported to be moving toward a deal with China Telecom, perhaps even more quickly than with China Mobile. Regardless, it seems that Apple is certainly making the Chinese market a priority and is working hard to get all of the country's top carriers on board for the iPhone as quickly as possible.
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Apple is now the most valuable company in the world. They past Exxon Mobile today. Steve Jobs is my own personal Jesus. To think when he first came back they were about to go bankrupt. :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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Apple is now the most valuable company in the world. They past Exxon Mobile today. Steve Jobs is my own personal Jesus. To think when he first came back they were about to go bankrupt. :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
Unbelievable! So happy to see this today.
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:rollin
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Steve Jobs is my own personal Jesus.
... Why? I just like their products... Couldn't care less about this.
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Steve Jobs is my own personal Jesus.
... Why? I just like their products... Couldn't care less about this.
I've been following this company when they were in rubble. When no one used their products. To See Steve Jobs pull this triumphant win is exciting to see and as An Apple Shareholder it's even better.
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Steve Jobs is my own personal Jesus.
... Why? I just like their products... Couldn't care less about this.
I've been following this company when they were in rubble. When no one used their products.
"To prove how much faith I had in them, I bought a shitload of their once worthless stock. I am now a billionaire. Go (winning) team!"
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Steve Jobs is my own personal Jesus.
... Why? I just like their products... Couldn't care less about this.
I've been following this company when they were in rubble. When no one used their products. To See Steve Jobs pull this triumphant win is exciting to see and as An Apple Shareholder it's even better.
You keep talking about Steve Jobs but the impression I've got from a lot of techies is they loathe him. He's a great spokesperson don't get me wrong but this impression of the "hands-on innovator" is more than likely doesn't hold as much water as him merely going on stage to pimp products that are the brainchild of others.
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You keep talking about Steve Jobs but the impression I've got from a lot of techies is they loathe him. He's a great spokesperson don't get me wrong but this impression of the "hands-on innovator" is more than likely doesn't hold as much water as him merely going on stage to pimp products that are the brainchild of others.
As much as I hate the cult of Steve Jobs, I don't buy this. I don't know how hands on he is, but the correlation between his leadership and the success of the product is pretty clear. His job isn't to be in the trenches of the product to development, it's to lead his company, and he currently runs the most valuable company in the world. I'd call that success.
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Steve Jobs is my own personal Jesus.
... Why? I just like their products... Couldn't care less about this.
I've been following this company when they were in rubble. When no one used their products. To See Steve Jobs pull this triumphant win is exciting to see and as An Apple Shareholder it's even better.
You keep talking about Steve Jobs but the impression I've got from a lot of techies is they loathe him. He's a great spokesperson don't get me wrong but this impression of the "hands-on innovator" is more than likely doesn't hold as much water as him merely going on stage to pimp products that are the brainchild of others.
Not true he has always been the visionary on the direction of the company (products.)
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Steve Jobs is my own personal Jesus.
... Why? I just like their products... Couldn't care less about this.
I've been following this company when they were in rubble. When no one used their products.
"To prove how much faith I had in them, I bought a shitload of their once worthless stock. I am now a billionaire. Go (winning) team!"
I wish i had money back then. I bought in at 3.25. When i had the money. Still holding for long term hopefully.
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Seeing as there isn't a 13" MacBook anymore, I'd say yes.
https://www.apple.com/uk/macbookpro/
13", 15" and 17".
Dimitrius said MacBook, not MacBook Pro :P
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Read this at work. It is not a surprise, but still rotten if true.
https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2390816,00.asp
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Ugh.
The prices of e-books are already completely obnoxious. We don't need them to get any MORE expensive.
Seriously, why is it significantly cheaper to buy hardback copies of The Dark Tower series than it is to buy the e-book editions?
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Ugh.
The prices of e-books are already completely obnoxious. We don't need them to get any MORE expensive.
Seriously, why is it significantly cheaper to buy hardback copies of The Dark Tower series than it is to buy the e-book editions?
The more they do this (if they did, we don't know.) the more they are just inviting pirating. The dark tower is free many places online. Many people have no problem paying but don't want to be gauged. This kind of behavior just says.. "please steal this. please?"
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I agree. Putting e-book prices stupidly high just encourages piracy.
I refuse to buy any e-book that costs disgustingly more than the hardback copy.
Also, I know about the books being free online. I never paid for them.
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I agree. Putting e-book prices stupidly high just encourages piracy.
I refuse to buy any e-book that costs disgustingly more than the hardback copy.
Also, I know about the books being free online. I never paid for them.
Oh btw just to clarify i wasn't encouraging piracy by saying they are free online. Figured everyone knows that. Was just trying to make a point.
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Pfft. None of the mods post in here anyway :P
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What are mods?
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What are mods?
Something to do with a C drive.
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I undownloaded all the mods on my computer. Sent them right back to the server!
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I found this article an interesting bit of insider info.
Apple Threatened to Abandon Intel Chips over Power Consumption
In an article from The Wall Street Journal regarding Intel's new $300 million effort to spur innovation on its "Ultrabook" platform, an Intel executive reveals that the chipmaker was driven to reduce power consumption to support such ultra-thin notebook designs by Apple. The motivation came in the form of threat by Apple to switch chip suppliers unless Intel made progress on the issue (via Daring Fireball).
The company in May announced a sharp revision in its product roadmap to lower the average power draw of its chips from a range of 35 watts to 40 watts to just 15 watts.
[Intel Ultrabook director Greg] Welch said Apple informed Intel that it better drastically slash its power consumption or would likely lose Apple’s business. “It was a real wake-up call to us,” he said.
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/11/apple-threatened-to-abandon-intel-chips-over-power-consumption/
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Apple modifying pictures of Samsung's products to help them win a lawsuit against them:
https://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/did-apple-alter-photos-of-the-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-in-its-inj/
https://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/did-apple-shrink-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-dutch-lawsuit-filing/
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(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/0817_POST-1_Mobile-Patents.jpg)
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Apple modifying pictures of Samsung's products to help them win a lawsuit against them:
https://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/did-apple-alter-photos-of-the-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-in-its-inj/
https://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/did-apple-shrink-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-dutch-lawsuit-filing/
I gotta say, based solely on this pics........the designs are beyond similar and the little size difference (especially with the cell phone) is inconsequential. It's like saying that Howie Mendel and David Draiman don't look anything alike because one is a few inches taller than the other.
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Apple Tops Worldwide Mobile PC Shipments in Q2 2011 with iPad Included
Research firm DisplaySearch today released the results of its estimates of mobile PC sales for the second quarter of 2011. The study includes both traditional notebooks and tablets, and Apple was able to ride the strength of the iPad to the top of the list with 21.1% of the market on 13.6 million units shipped. Apple comfortably topped second-place HP, which came in at 15% share with 9.7 million units shipped.
(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/displaysearch_mobile_rankings_2q11.jpg)
The report notes that Samsung and Dell led the way in year-over-year shipment growth among notebook PCs, but that performance was overshadowed by Apple's iPad growth, which saw unit shipments more than double year-over-year.
On the tablet front, quarterly shipments of non-Apple tablets have quickly risen to 5.6 million units, although many manufacturers appear to be having difficulty translating those shipments into actual sales to customers. Overall, tablet shipments were up 70% quarter-over-quarter and 400% year-over-year.
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/18/apple-tops-worldwide-mobile-pc-shipments-in-q2-2011-with-ipad-included/
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(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/0817_POST-1_Mobile-Patents.jpg)
Unfortunately for some... this may not end until there are 2 or three companies left. Most likely Google, Apple, and Microsoft. But that is a CRAZY ass chart.
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Apple modifying pictures of Samsung's products to help them win a lawsuit against them:
https://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/did-apple-alter-photos-of-the-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-in-its-inj/
https://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/did-apple-shrink-the-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-dutch-lawsuit-filing/
I gotta say, based solely on this pics........the designs are beyond similar and the little size difference (especially with the cell phone) is inconsequential. It's like saying that Howie Mendel and David Draiman don't look anything alike because one is a few inches taller than the other.
Oh, I don't disagree that they look quite similar but it's still some dirty tactics (the size difference isn't everything, they've changed the aspect ratio of the tablet too).
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Yea, but such is the legal world.
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Does anyone know what company apple uses to print their photobooks?
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Does anyone know what company apple uses to print their photobooks?
You talking about the ones you buy through iPHoto? I think it used to be My PUblisher but apparently the quality has gotten better than My publisher quality so i'm not sure now.
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Does anyone know what company apple uses to print their photobooks?
You talking about the ones you buy through iPHoto? I think it used to be My PUblisher but apparently the quality has gotten better than My publisher quality so i'm not sure now.
Yeah, not sure how to identify the company though.
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We don't really have a thread for tablets and since Apple has the highest market share in the tablet world, I thought I would post this here:
https://www.engadget.com/2011/08/21/editorial-tablets-arent-the-third-device-id-hoped-for-fr/
I pretty much agree with everything he said there.
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I typically get through eight or nine messages before I need to a) add an attachment from a file system that doesn't exist
Wat? You can't attach files to email on an ipad?
But yeah, I agree. I can see myself using one to lounge around and surf the internet or play Plants vs. Zombies on the couch or something, but that's not worth anywhere near 500 dollars (which is how much my laptop cost, and that can play Starcraft 2 FFS).
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Pretty much in agreement. That which I cant do on my smartphone I typically need a real OS for.
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Anybody here familiar with GarageBand app?
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Is anyone familiar with GarageBand the ipad app?
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I typically get through eight or nine messages before I need to a) add an attachment from a file system that doesn't exist
Wat? You can't attach files to email on an ipad?
But yeah, I agree. I can see myself using one to lounge around and surf the internet or play Plants vs. Zombies on the couch or something, but that's not worth anywhere near 500 dollars (which is how much my laptop cost, and that can play Starcraft 2 FFS).
Of course you can add attachments.
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I typically get through eight or nine messages before I need to a) add an attachment from a file system that doesn't exist
Wat? You can't attach files to email on an ipad?
But yeah, I agree. I can see myself using one to lounge around and surf the internet or play Plants vs. Zombies on the couch or something, but that's not worth anywhere near 500 dollars (which is how much my laptop cost, and that can play Starcraft 2 FFS).
c'mon as if that's all you can do with an iPad is play Zombies.
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Its a fair comparison of the level of sophisication of the games avaiable to each system.
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I'm not here to contribute anything relevant. Not really...
(https://mthruf.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/job-fails-id-also-like-to-see-it-compared-to-actual-apples.jpg)
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I typically get through eight or nine messages before I need to a) add an attachment from a file system that doesn't exist
Wat? You can't attach files to email on an ipad?
But yeah, I agree. I can see myself using one to lounge around and surf the internet or play Plants vs. Zombies on the couch or something, but that's not worth anywhere near 500 dollars (which is how much my laptop cost, and that can play Starcraft 2 FFS).
c'mon as if that's all you can do with an iPad is play Zombies.
I never said it's all you can do with an ipad, just that it's all I'm interested in doing. I use computers for: surfing the web, listening to music, playing games, game development, and CAD/Solid modeling. Clearly CAD isn't even an option. Game development isn't an option because I code in C# with XNA, which is Windows only (not that I'd ever want to code on touchscreen like that).
That basically leaves internet, music, and games, and considering the type of games I play, the ipad isn't very interesting in that field. The simple fact is I don't see any use for it. I'm not saying it doesn't have any uses or applications, just that I don't have a use for it.
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I never said it's all you can do with an ipad, just that it's all I'm interested in doing. I use computers for: surfing the web, listening to music, playing games, game development, and CAD/Solid modeling. Clearly CAD isn't even an option. Game development isn't an option because I code in C# with XNA, which is Windows only (not that I'd ever want to code on touchscreen like that).
That basically leaves internet, music, and games, and considering the type of games I play, the ipad isn't very interesting in that field. The simple fact is I don't see any use for it. I'm not saying it doesn't have any uses or applications, just that I don't have a use for it.
I demand to know more about this.
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I'm not here to contribute anything relevant. Not really...
(https://mthruf.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/job-fails-id-also-like-to-see-it-compared-to-actual-apples.jpg)
:facepalm: Half of those things who gives a shit about. And the other someone forgot to check off.
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https://twitter.com/#!/nytimes/status/106495513720930304
Thanks Steve <3
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Steve Jobs resign, and TJ contemplates suicide! :lol
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You're not gonna think that joke is very funny when TJ actually does it. :p
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You have no idea how excited I am for his reaction. :lol
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We should have like...an online tailgating party while waiting for his reaction.
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I got beer.
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You're not gonna think that joke is very funny when TJ actually does it. :p
Actually, that would totally make it even funnier. Not that I hate TJ and want him dead, but for someone, anyone, to go to that extreme because of that... that's pretty LOL-worthy.
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Curious to see what the stock is going to do tomorrow, I'm willing to bet it won't be good.
I think tj said he moved some of his money out of it already.
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I got beer.
I got Doritos, hot dogs, and folding chairs.
Looks like we're in business. :hat
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You're not gonna think that joke is very funny when TJ actually does it. :p
Actually, that would totally make it even funnier. Not that I hate TJ and want him dead, but for someone, anyone, to go to that extreme because of that... that's pretty LOL-worthy.
With the extent of his fanboy-ism, I actually agree with you. :lol
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Apple Tops Worldwide Mobile PC Shipments in Q2 2011 with iPad Included
Research firm DisplaySearch today released the results of its estimates of mobile PC sales for the second quarter of 2011. The study includes both traditional notebooks and tablets, and Apple was able to ride the strength of the iPad to the top of the list with 21.1% of the market on 13.6 million units shipped. Apple comfortably topped second-place HP, which came in at 15% share with 9.7 million units shipped.
(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/displaysearch_mobile_rankings_2q11.jpg)
The report notes that Samsung and Dell led the way in year-over-year shipment growth among notebook PCs, but that performance was overshadowed by Apple's iPad growth, which saw unit shipments more than double year-over-year.
This is extremely misleading for two reasons.
1) Does it include tablets from other companies?
2) When you're buying a machine that runs Windows, you have more than one option, so of course the numbers are going to be split. If we had a chart of laptop sales by operating system, it would tell a very different story.
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Curious to see what the stock is going to do tomorrow, I'm willing to bet it won't be good.
I think tj said he moved some of his money out of it already.
My first thought as well. These are going to plummet!
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This is extremely misleading for two reasons.
1) Does it include tablets from other companies?
2) When you're buying a machine that runs Windows, you have more than one option, so of course the numbers are going to be split. If we had a chart of laptop sales by operating system, it would tell a very different story.
Seriously. What a terribly made chart. At least do just laptops or something.
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Curious to see what the stock is going to do tomorrow, I'm willing to bet it won't be good.
I think tj said he moved some of his money out of it already.
My first thought as well. These are going to plummet!
I'm sure there will be a rebound in prices, but it'll take a much longer time
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If it does plummet all it goes to show is how hilariously broken the idea of stocks are. Jobs isn't the only person with a brain in that company.
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I'm no Apple fan, but he definitely had the best brain in that company.
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https://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/08/24/steve-jobs-resigns-as-apple-ceo/
https://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/stocks/news/press_release.asp?docTag=201108241834BIZWIRE_USPRX____BW6503&feedID=600
Letter from Steve Jobs
Published: August 25, 2011
CUPERTINO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 24, 2011-- To the Apple Board of Directors and the Apple Community:
I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple’s CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come.
I hereby resign as CEO of Apple. I would like to serve, if the Board sees fit, as Chairman of the Board, director and Apple employee.
As far as my successor goes, I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple.
I believe Apple’s brightest and most innovative days are ahead of it. And I look forward to watching and contributing to its success in a new role.
I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you.
Steve
Source: Apple Inc.
Apple
Katie Cotton, 408-974-7269
katiec@apple.com
or
Apple
Steve Dowling , 408-974-1896
dowling@apple.com
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innovationinnovationinnovationinnovationinnovationinnovation
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Innovation, or pilfering ideas from comp sci final projects.
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Well shit. You'd figure this would be the first place tj would go once he heard the news.
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loose the noose!
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:corn
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Well shit. You'd figure this would be the first place tj would go once he heard the news.
Naw, he probably went to a bar to drink his sorrows away.
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What, did Steve Jobs just get bored of making money or something?
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Or maybe he's really sick?
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He is? Shit, my bad. :-x
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lol
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https://plus.google.com/u/2/107117483540235115863/posts/gcSStkKxXTw
One Sunday morning, January 6th, 2008 I was attending religious services when my cell phone vibrated. As discreetly as possible, I checked the phone and noticed that my phone said "Caller ID unknown". I choose to ignore.
After services, as I was walking to my car with my family, I checked my cell phone messages. The message left was from Steve Jobs. "Vic, can you call me at home? I have something urgent to discuss" it said.
Before I even reached my car, I called Steve Jobs back. I was responsible for all mobile applications at Google, and in that role, had regular dealings with Steve. It was one of the perks of the job.
"Hey Steve - this is Vic", I said. "I'm sorry I didn't answer your call earlier. I was in religious services, and the caller ID said unknown, so I didn't pick up".
Steve laughed. He said, "Vic, unless the Caller ID said 'GOD', you should never pick up during services".
I laughed nervously. After all, while it was customary for Steve to call during the week upset about something, it was unusual for him to call me on Sunday and ask me to call his home. I wondered what was so important?
"So Vic, we have an urgent issue, one that I need addressed right away. I've already assigned someone from my team to help you, and I hope you can fix this tomorrow" said Steve.
"I've been looking at the Google logo on the iPhone and I'm not happy with the icon. The second O in Google doesn't have the right yellow gradient. It's just wrong and I'm going to have Greg fix it tomorrow. Is that okay with you?"
Of course this was okay with me. A few minutes later on that Sunday I received an email from Steve with the subject "Icon Ambulance". The email directed me to work with Greg Christie to fix the icon.
Since I was 11 years old and fell in love with an Apple II, I have dozens of stories to tell about Apple products. They have been a part of my life for decades. Even when I worked for 15 years for Bill Gates at Microsoft, I had a huge admiration for Steve and what Apple had produced.
But in the end, when I think about leadership, passion and attention to detail, I think back to the call I received from Steve Jobs on a Sunday morning in January. It was a lesson I'll never forget. CEOs should care about details. Even shades of yellow. On a Sunday.
To one of the greatest leaders I've ever met, my prayers and hopes are with you Steve.
-Vic
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I love that story! Read that earlier but was afraid to post it because I would probably be fired upon for it. Somehow it will portrayed as me attacking google or some stupid shit like that. Anyway, thanks for posting.
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I'm kind of speechless that he actually considered a problem with the color gradient in a single letter to be worthy of an urgent weekend call, rather than just a simple email.
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The brilliant ones are always odd, neurotic, etc. Comes with the territory i guess. But It shows his passion and care he places into the products.
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It's a character flaw of being a "perfectionist": you'll always blow something very minor out of proportion or think of nonexistent problems to escalate into major ones.
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It's not a flaw for a CEO its a major advantage.
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It's not a flaw for a CEO its a major advantage.
I'm not trying to say how Steve Job's should have run Apple, since generally speaking he probably knows better than me, but usually CEO's are supposed to be more big picture guys. If Steve Jobs can be that much of a micromanager and be successful, then great. But it's not the norm and it's usually a bad thing.
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I'm saying it's a positive because it shows how much he cares about his products and believes in them. That's what people who love Steve Jobs, love about him. There's another story that goes...
Back in the late 70's someone had worked on an OS for 36 hours straight without sleeping, trying to finish it. When they finished they called Steve to approve it. Steve Jobs came and looked at it and said... "It's great, but is that the BEST it could be?" The person sighed and said "I'll keep working on it."
It's just the will to win and be the best that made him so successful. Whether or not you like him is irrelevant, it's undeniable how successful he became because of his attitude and will to win.
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It's not a flaw for a CEO its a major advantage.
I'm not trying to say how Steve Job's should have run Apple, since generally speaking he probably knows better than me, but usually CEO's are supposed to be more big picture guys. If Steve Jobs can be that much of a micromanager and be successful, then great. But it's not the norm and it's usually a bad thing.
Huge Apple fan and have been for years, but I don't disagree. It's really not the norm how SJ treated his role at Apple. Fortunately, that's what makes them interesting to me and why I love their products. It's all in the details.
I can't wait to watch Tim Cook cary the torch as we enter a new era of Apple.
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Pics of Jobs today. Jesus.
https://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resignation-ceo-sick/
Then again, you decide: https://i.imgur.com/WV5Y0.jpg
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It's TMZ. That should tell you something.
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While the image may be Photoshopped, the whole pose still doesn't look too positive. It definitely looks like he's being assisted to stand/walk, unless they just got lucky with the timing of their photo.
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While the image may be Photoshopped, the whole pose still doesn't look too positive. It definitely looks like he's being assisted to stand/walk, unless they just got lucky with the timing of their photo.
What makes you think Steve Jobs was actually in that photo?
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While the image may be Photoshopped, the whole pose still doesn't look too positive. It definitely looks like he's being assisted to stand/walk, unless they just got lucky with the timing of their photo.
What makes you think Steve Jobs was actually in that photo?
[neo] whoa [/neo]
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While the image may be Photoshopped, the whole pose still doesn't look too positive. It definitely looks like he's being assisted to stand/walk, unless they just got lucky with the timing of their photo.
What makes you think Steve Jobs was actually in that photo?
Exactly.
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I definitely hope Jobs recovers soon.
I may not like Apple, but I've never really had anything against the man himself.
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Well the RUSH app gets mostly crappy reviews but Jordan's Morphwiz app continues to rate very well.
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He is/was the CEO of apple, a company for which style and aesthetics is a major keystone of their design philosophy.
Steve is wearing sandals and socks in that picture.
Given these two facts, it is fake.
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And he's not wearing a black turtleneck.
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It's not a flaw for a CEO its a major advantage.
I'm not trying to say how Steve Job's should have run Apple, since generally speaking he probably knows better than me, but usually CEO's are supposed to be more big picture guys. If Steve Jobs can be that much of a micromanager and be successful, then great. But it's not the norm and it's usually a bad thing.
Yes, I agree. Just because this style was successful for him at Apple, that does not make it win every else. His 96' return and turnaround is an incredible story, probably the best in tech history. But let us not forget on the same bill of genius that he was forced out of Apple once, and NeXt never gained traction. Perhaps his style did not work in every application.
I'm saying it's a positive because it shows how much he cares about his products and believes in them. That's what people who love Steve Jobs, love about him. There's another story that goes...
Back in the late 70's someone had worked on an OS for 36 hours straight without sleeping, trying to finish it. When they finished they called Steve to approve it. Steve Jobs came and looked at it and said... "It's great, but is that the BEST it could be?" The person sighed and said "I'll keep working on it."
It's just the will to win and be the best that made him so successful. Whether or not you like him is irrelevant, it's undeniable how successful he became because of his attitude and will to win.
This may at the end make solid business. I know if I was that engineer, I would not want to work on someone else's project like that if I really did not believe in it. Game creators work insane hours, and typically their stories are not painted in the same flower and sunshine light (see big players EA, ActivisionBlizzard & Gameloft).
Both of these stories, the Google thing and the OS development paint him in as an extremely controlling person. And this is the person I would never want as a boss, because there would be absolutely no autonomy. In work environments where autonomy and self exploration are not allowed to a degree, the workers generally are unhappy. We cannot argue with his results, but I can argue that this dictatorial control being the model for all workplaces. As a place that encourages so much "be different" thought in their consumers, it sure feels like Jobs didn't really promote this through his managing, but rather on the surface.
Sure, it may work for Apple. And maybe a lot of the employees believe in the ends justifying the means. But I do know that game creators are generally miserable when under a big umbrella.
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It's not a flaw for a CEO its a major advantage.
I'm not trying to say how Steve Job's should have run Apple, since generally speaking he probably knows better than me, but usually CEO's are supposed to be more big picture guys. If Steve Jobs can be that much of a micromanager and be successful, then great. But it's not the norm and it's usually a bad thing.
Yes, I agree. Just because this style was successful for him at Apple, that does not make it win every else. His 96' return and turnaround is an incredible story, probably the best in tech history. But let us not forget on the same bill of genius that he was forced out of Apple once, and NeXt never gained traction. Perhaps his style did not work in every application.
I'm saying it's a positive because it shows how much he cares about his products and believes in them. That's what people who love Steve Jobs, love about him. There's another story that goes...
Back in the late 70's someone had worked on an OS for 36 hours straight without sleeping, trying to finish it. When they finished they called Steve to approve it. Steve Jobs came and looked at it and said... "It's great, but is that the BEST it could be?" The person sighed and said "I'll keep working on it."
It's just the will to win and be the best that made him so successful. Whether or not you like him is irrelevant, it's undeniable how successful he became because of his attitude and will to win.
This may at the end make solid business. I know if I was that engineer, I would not want to work on someone else's project like that if I really did not believe in it. Game creators work insane hours, and typically their stories are not painted in the same flower and sunshine light (see big players EA, ActivisionBlizzard & Gameloft).
Both of these stories, the Google thing and the OS development paint him in as an extremely controlling person. And this is the person I would never want as a boss, because there would be absolutely no autonomy. In work environments where autonomy and self exploration are not allowed to a degree, the workers generally are unhappy. We cannot argue with his results, but I can argue that this dictatorial control being the model for all workplaces. As a place that encourages so much "be different" thought in their consumers, it sure feels like Jobs didn't really promote this through his managing, but rather on the surface.
Sure, it may work for Apple. And maybe a lot of the employees believe in the ends justifying the means. But I do know that game creators are generally miserable when under a big umbrella.
I have to disagree though about the first thing you said. He was only forced out of apple because he wanted to continue the direction they were going with the Mac and press it further with new software, etc but the board didn't share his vision so they kicked him out. Then they went on to almost bankrupting the company until steve came back and he turned it into the second / first (depends on which day it is) biggest company in the world. As far as Next goes I would say he was very successful because Apple bought Next and he became rich again from it. Then once he took control he used it as the basis for OSX and now iOS which are both doing extremely well and making apple Billions of dollars!
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Yeah, I think Cable X does not get it how well-run companies work.
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Yeah, I think Cable X does not get it how well-run companies work.
huh? His post had nothing to do with whether they're good business practices or not.
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Yep. A year or so before my dad got laid off from IBM they had this team of people come in to train the staff there to do things the way Toyota did. Yeah the products are different but they wanted to transfer that assembly line style over to IBM because it worked so beautifully for Toyota. After a few months it was a complete failure. Cable X is right, what works in some companies might not work elsewhere.
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Just ran across this: https://gizmodo.com/171394/thermal-greasy-apple-sics-lawyers-on-something-awful
Thermal Greasy: Apple Sics Lawyers on Something Awful
(https://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7541/lol1qe.jpg)
After a Something Awful denizen took apart his MacBook Pro and discovered that Apple had slathered on far too much thermal grease, he found that using a more modest amount dropped his MacBook Pro's temperatures by several degrees. Now the forum has recieved a threatening letter from Apple's legal staff, requesting a link to this image [pictured above] be removed because "The Service Source manual for the MacBook Pro is Apple's intellectual property and is protected by U.S. copyright law."
Of course the real problem isn't the single excerpted page being linked from Something Awful, but instead the fact that the image shows the extremely sloppy manufacturing process that is causing the MacBook Pro to run at temperatures as high as a 95 degrees Celcius under full load. (A temperature so high that the processor is at risk of malfunctioning.) Rather than addressing the problem of the shoddy workmanship, documented not only by those who purchased Apple's $2,500 laptop but by Apple's own service manual, Apple is trying to silence those from the Macintosh community who are trying to help other Mac users fix Apple's mistake.
My MacBook Pro has the problem with the whining screen, too. Perhaps I'll wait until they acknowledge the sloppy application of the thermal grease before I go in to request repair. In the meantime I will keep telling people how much I love using my Mac while silently questioning my devotion to a company who would rather use the law than service to assuage their customers' complaints.
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HOLY FUCK! That's a shitload of thermal grease!
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I'm sure other pre-fab machines are built like that but for $2,500, damn, you'd expect better quality than that.
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omg lolmac!
Anyway, what do you mean by pre fab?
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Prefabricated rather than lovingly built by hand by 1000 nerds in a sweatshop in wisconsen.
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Yeah, I think Cable X does not get it how well-run companies work.
huh? His post had nothing to do with whether they're good business practices or not.
Yeah, this was poor wording on my part. What I was trying to convey is that even if Jobs was a bit harsh on the guy in the 70s, he did what he had to do. He was doing his job well, running well his company. The way Jobs runs his company doesn't mean it's going to apply for the good in Toyota -bringing what orcus said-; it did in Pixar, but every company has to be run in certain specific ways in order to work. Well-run companies depend on the leader.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/29/itunes-match-allows-both-streaming-and-downloading-of-music/
'iTunes Match' Allows Both Streaming and Downloading of Music
Apple released a developer beta of the iTunes Match system this evening. The system is described by Apple as follows:
iTunes Match stores your complete music library in iCloud, allowing you to enjoy your collection anywhere, anytime, on any iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, or computer.
Insanely Great Mac provides this nice walkthrough video which shows you how the service works. It also shows that this is both a streaming and downloading service.
https://youtu.be/ydHiQ2krRnU (https://youtu.be/ydHiQ2krRnU)
For the $25 yearly fee, iTunes Match will scan your existing iTunes music library and allow you to access it from any of your iTunes-linked Macs or iOS devices. Songs that already exist in Apple's iTunes music store will be streamed straight from Apple's master copy (at 256kbps bitrate) without a need to upload the songs yourself. Songs that don't exist in iTunes will be uploaded to iCloud. Either way, all your music (up to 25,000 songs) will be accessible from your various computers and iOS devices.
(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/08/matchios.jpg)
iOS 5 Music App streaming a song. iCloud button allows you to download locally.
What wasn't clear before is the fact that music can be either streamed or downloaded locally to any of your computers or devices. While the video only shows the service on a Mac, we've confirmed it works the same way on iOS devices. So, essentially, you will have instant access to your entire music library from all of your Macs, iPhones, iPads, or iPod touches for only $25/year. This ability on your iOS devices means your music library won't need to take up valuable space on the device itself, as long as you have some sort of internet connection.
iTunes Match is expected to launch alongside iOS 5 this fall.
Update: Insanely Great Mac has now posted a video showing how it works on an iOS device:
https://youtu.be/-3ShM5jm4sQ (https://youtu.be/-3ShM5jm4sQ)
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Just subscribed. This was my most anticipated feature of iOS 5 so i'm excited about this as you could imagine. Hopefully the beta isn't too buggy.
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So you're paying $25 for a cloud-based music service that works only on iOS devices? Am I reading that right?
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So you're paying $25 for a cloud-based music service that works only on iOS devices? Am I reading that right?
You understand what it does right? Doesn't seem like you do. It's not just a cloud based music service. And yes 2 dollars a month for this service is a bargain and Let's see what devices i have... An iPhone, an Ipad and a Mac. Question is why WOULDN'T i pay for this service?
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(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/tjanuranus/Screenshot2011-08-30at15210AM.png)
The first step took a few minutes. Considering how many songs i have... it's pretty fast so far.
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So you're paying $25 for a cloud-based music service that works only on iOS devices? Am I reading that right?
You understand what it does right? Doesn't seem like you do. It's not just a cloud based music service.
From what you posted, it's a cloud-based music service that allows you to download the song to your device if you want... so what am I missing then?
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So you're paying $25 for a cloud-based music service that works only on iOS devices? Am I reading that right?
You understand what it does right? Doesn't seem like you do. It's not just a cloud based music service.
From what you posted, it's a cloud-based music service that allows you to download the song to your device if you want... so what am I missing then?
It's a matching service. Any songs you have in your library that are also on the itunes store (There are over 15 million) will be matched as if you bought them from the itUnes store. So if you ripped them from a cd, bought them from somewhere else or pirated them it doesn't matter. The cloud knows all of your music and it's available everywhere without uploading. So every time you open iTunes it scans your library and updates the cloud, once again no uploading. You can stream and or download the music anywhere, including windows PC's. For 2 bucks a month.
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So if the music is on iTunes then it wouldn't upload the copy on your hard drive to the cloud? That's a little neat.
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So if the music is on iTunes then it wouldn't upload the copy on your hard drive to the cloud? That's a little neat.
No it uploads any music that's not on itunes as well. Look at the image i posted.
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So if the music is on iTunes then it wouldn't upload the copy on your hard drive to the cloud? That's a little neat.
No it uploads any music that's not on itunes as well. Look at the image i posted.
Yes, I read that part, but from what you're saying I'm understanding that if the music is indeed on the iTunes store then a copy of the iTunes Store version would be uploaded to the cloud.
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So if the music is on iTunes then it wouldn't upload the copy on your hard drive to the cloud? That's a little neat.
No it uploads any music that's not on itunes as well. Look at the image i posted.
Yes, I read that part, but from what you're saying I'm understanding that if the music is indeed on the iTunes store then a copy of the iTunes Store version would be uploaded to the cloud.
No uploading going on because the music is already on the servers. The files on the servers are 256k AAC which is very similar to a 320 mp3. Some people prefer them. I can't hear a difference between the two but for a cloud service that's a very nice file. plus the aac is a smaller file size which is better for data usage of course.
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You understand what it does right? Doesn't seem like you do. It's not just a cloud based music service. And yes 2 dollars a month for this service is a bargain and Let's see what devices i have... An iPhone, an Ipad and a Mac. Question is why WOULDN'T i pay for this service?
Because for $0 a month you could simply copy the music to the devices you want?
Of course that's a much simpler and quicker task when you're not restricted by iTunes, so I guess the $2 a month is the better option for you. :biggrin:
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You understand what it does right? Doesn't seem like you do. It's not just a cloud based music service. And yes 2 dollars a month for this service is a bargain and Let's see what devices i have... An iPhone, an Ipad and a Mac. Question is why WOULDN'T i pay for this service?
Because for $0 a month you could simply copy the music to the devices you want?
Of course that's a much simpler and quicker task when you're not restricted by iTunes, so I guess the $2 a month is the better option for you. :biggrin:
You know what man? What's your fucking problem? Are you just saying this shit to flame or are you completely missing the point of any cloud service, (especially this one )speak before reading anything, or are a blind ignorant Apple hating :censored. It's just like the other thread.
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Honestly, I've never seen the point of any cloud service, apple or not. I'm really not comfortable with not having my stuff on a local drive.
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Honestly, I've never seen the point of any cloud service, apple or not. I'm really not comfortable with not having my stuff on a local drive.
I know what you mean but you're stuff pretty much wouldn't be on another drive with this service.
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You know what man? What's your fucking problem? Are you just saying this shit to flame or are you completely missing the point of any cloud service, (especially this one )speak before reading anything, or are a blind ignorant Apple hating :censored. It's just like the other thread.
Whoa, calm down. It was a legitimate comment to add to the conversation, with a friendly joke at the end, which I thought was quite clearly indicated by the use of the smiley. Just because I'm not giddy over everything Apple does does not make me blindly ignorant, or trolling, and doesn't mean I'm not allowed to post something against what they offer. This is not an Apple forum, and nothing I said comes remotely close to trolling.
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You understand what it does right? Doesn't seem like you do. It's not just a cloud based music service. And yes 2 dollars a month for this service is a bargain and Let's see what devices i have... An iPhone, an Ipad and a Mac. Question is why WOULDN'T i pay for this service?
Because for $0 a month you could simply copy the music to the devices you want?
Of course that's a much simpler and quicker task when you're not restricted by iTunes, so I guess the $2 a month is the better option for you. :biggrin:
It does mean that you can play all the music in your 100 GB music collection on your 8GB iPhone, as long as you're connected to the Internet.
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You understand what it does right? Doesn't seem like you do. It's not just a cloud based music service. And yes 2 dollars a month for this service is a bargain and Let's see what devices i have... An iPhone, an Ipad and a Mac. Question is why WOULDN'T i pay for this service?
Because for $0 a month you could simply copy the music to the devices you want?
Of course that's a much simpler and quicker task when you're not restricted by iTunes, so I guess the $2 a month is the better option for you. :biggrin:
It does mean that you can play all the music in your 100 GB music collection on your 8GB iPhone, as long as you're connected to the Internet.
Yes, I'm not doubting the convenience and merit of having instant access to your entire music collection rather than a smaller portion. Although with the minimum capacity of the new iPhones being 16gb, and the size of mp3s, the majority of people would hardly struggle to fit enough music to last them a while before needing to get to delete stuff to fit more either.
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True, but Apple figured they'll make more profit if they offer that minority that does have significantly more music than 16 GB a service that lets them have all the music they want as well. I don't see a problem with that. Also, you have to let your library get checked once and you'll have the music on any iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and other mac computer you own, instead of having to copy it to all of those separately.
And third, iTunes on a Mac is nowhere near the pain in the ass it is on a Windows computer. :D
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I've actually only used iTunes on my Mac, and it's just a pain in the ass in every single way. I would never install it on my PC out of principle. :lol
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I had tons of problem with iTunes on my previous computer which was a Windows machine. On the Mac now, I haven't encountered any problems with it.
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I've never understood the beef people have with iTunes. I've always felt that it was very intuitive and easy to use.
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I've never understood the beef people have with iTunes. I've always felt that it was very intuitive and easy to use.
It's also very bloated and buggy on a PC. Winamp ftw.
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Not that I like iTunes or anything but I've never understood why people complain about programs being bloated, RAM hungry etc. when they're running a PC with 600GB of RAM, 80 core processor and 3 60 petabyte hard drives.
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Not that I like iTunes or anything but I've never understood why people complain about programs being bloated, RAM hungry etc. when they're running a PC with 600GB of RAM, 80 core processor and 3 60 petabyte hard drives.
RAM isn't as much of an issue these days, although some programs are bloated to the point of being much slower and less responsive than they should be. And these RAM hungry programs quickly add up. Some modern browsers are huge RAM hogs, so throw in a couple of other every day programs and the computer slows right down.
I've never used iTunes to play music though (lol) so I don't know what it's like.
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I've never understood the beef people have with iTunes. I've always felt that it was very intuitive and easy to use.
It's also very bloated and buggy on a PC. Winamp ftw.
I'm going to be honest, I recently started using iTunes on my PC and I've been getting better performance out of it than I did with Winamp. I don't know what the issue was, but there were times where Winamp would just crash on startup.
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I think I've had Winamp crash maybe 3 or 4 times since I started using it over 2 years ago.
and I don't even have iTunes installed on my compter :lol
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a PC with 600GB of RAM, 80 core processor and 3 60 petabyte hard drives.
I want that computer.
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iTunes was buggy and annoying to use on my PC. It really is made for Mac.
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a PC with 600GB of RAM, 80 core processor and 3 60 petabyte hard drives.
I want that computer.
It comes with a GeForce FX5200
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a PC with 600GB of RAM, 80 core processor and 3 60 petabyte hard drives.
I want that computer.
It comes with a GeForce FX5200
Who cares? You could run everything in software mode with that CPU. :lol
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I care.
I care so much that I got FNM to write a song about it.
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And they cared so much, that they name dropped me in the song.
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Because there's more than meets the eye?
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This guy knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.
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I never had any problems with iTunes on my old shitty Toshiba laptop. Meanwhile, everything else worked horribly. Naturally, iTunes works fine on my mac.
And life goes on.
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I care.
I care so much that I got FNM to write a song about it.
:rollin :rollin
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Talking about apple there is an app on iphone with which it is easier to read forums!It would be nice for the mods to make the forum compatible with that app because its much more comfortable with that app than watching the forum through safari!
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I'm probably going to join iCloud just so I can upgrade and legalize all of the old music that I pirated back in the day.
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Is there possibility that it could increase/decrease bitrates?
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Yes, all your songs will be 256 kb/s AAC. (at least all those already in the iTunes library... Those that get uploaded, I have no idea)
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I'm probably going to join iCloud just so I can upgrade and legalize all of the old music that I pirated back in the day.
can you explain how this works?
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I still have no idea where tj gets the 256 aac = 320 mp3 idea. Totally not true.
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I'm probably going to join iCloud just so I can upgrade and legalize all of the old music that I pirated back in the day.
can you explain how this works?
Just read what tjanuranus posted on the previous page.
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I still have no idea where tj gets the 256 aac = 320 mp3 idea. Totally not true.
It's not that it equals but some prefer the quality of the AAC over 320 mp3. I don't hear a difference personally but the AAC is a smaller file which is nicer. I have a ton of things ripped as 320 mp3s and also a ton ripped as 256k AAC and honestly they sound about the same. That's why I said that.
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It's a matching service. Any songs you have in your library that are also on the itunes store (There are over 15 million) will be matched as if you bought them from the itUnes store. So if you ripped them from a cd, bought them from somewhere else or pirated them it doesn't matter. The cloud knows all of your music and it's available everywhere without uploading. So every time you open iTunes it scans your library and updates the cloud, once again no uploading. You can stream and or download the music anywhere, including windows PC's. For 2 bucks a month. It also uploads any music that you have that isn't on the itunes store, like music you made yourself.
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I still have no idea where tj gets the 256 aac = 320 mp3 idea. Totally not true.
It's not that it equals but some prefer the quality of the AAC over 320 mp3. I don't hear a difference personally but the AAC is a smaller file which is nicer. I have a ton of things ripped as 320 mp3s and also a ton ripped as 256k AAC and honestly they sound about the same. That's why I said that.
What? AAC is a smaller file because it's a LOWER bitrate. If you were to find a song with the same bitrate as an AAC, the AAC would be bigger because each file contains information about who purchased it, when, etc.
I mean, obviously I don't hear a difference between them either since they are very similar in bitrates, but technically 320 should sound "better"
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I still have no idea where tj gets the 256 aac = 320 mp3 idea. Totally not true.
It's not that it equals but some prefer the quality of the AAC over 320 mp3. I don't hear a difference personally but the AAC is a smaller file which is nicer. I have a ton of things ripped as 320 mp3s and also a ton ripped as 256k AAC and honestly they sound about the same. That's why I said that.
What? AAC is a smaller file because it's a LOWER bitrate. If you were to find a song with the same bitrate as an AAC, the AAC would be bigger because each file contains information about who purchased it, when, etc.
I mean, obviously I don't hear a difference between them either since they are very similar in bitrates, but technically 320 should sound "better"
But AAC is supposed to have better compression, so they're not directly comparable by just the bitrate, because they're not the same codec.
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Personally I just think it's apple fanboys, but whatever.
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Yes but they are encoded differently so it's perfectly possible for a 256 kb/s AAC to have a better quality than a 256 kb/s MP3. Obviously they'll be the same size.
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Personally I just think it's apple fanboys, but whatever.
Apple did not create AAC. It's not an apple thing.
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Personally I just think it's apple fanboys, but whatever.
Apple did not create AAC. It's not an apple thing.
Well yeah, but Apple uses the codec, therefore it is the best thing ever.
See how that works?
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Personally I just think it's apple fanboys, but whatever.
Apple did not create AAC. It's not an apple thing.
Well yeah, but Apple uses the codec, therefore it is the best thing ever.
See how that works?
Alright check this out, (From wiki...)
Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) is a standardized, lossy compression and encoding scheme for digital audio. Designed to be the successor of the MP3 format, AAC generally achieves better sound quality than MP3 at similar bit rates.[2]
AAC was developed with the cooperation and contributions of companies including AT&T Bell Laboratories, Fraunhofer IIS, Dolby Laboratories, Sony Corporation and Nokia. It was officially declared an international standard by the Moving Picture Experts Group in April 1997. It is specified both as Part 7 of the MPEG-2 standard, and Subpart 4 in Part 3 of the MPEG-4 standard.[5]
AAC's improvements over MP3
Advanced Audio Coding is designed to be the successor of the MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3, known as MP3 format, which was specified by ISO/IEC in 11172-3 (MPEG-1 Audio) and 13818-3 (MPEG-2 Audio).
Blind tests show that AAC demonstrates greater sound quality and transparency than MP3 for files coded at the same bit rate.[2]
Improvements include:
More sample frequencies (from 8 to 96 kHz) than MP3 (16 to 48 kHz)
Up to 48 channels (MP3 supports up to two channels in MPEG-1 mode and up to 5.1 channels in MPEG-2 mode)
Arbitrary bit-rates and variable frame length. Standardized constant bit rate with bit reservoir.
Higher efficiency and simpler filterbank (rather than MP3's hybrid coding, AAC uses a pure MDCT)
Higher coding efficiency for stationary signals (AAC uses a blocksize of 1024 or 960 samples, allowing more efficient coding than MP3's 576 sample blocks)
Higher coding accuracy for transient signals (AAC uses a blocksize of 128 or 120 samples, allowing more accurate coding than MP3's 192 sample blocks)
Can use Kaiser-Bessel derived window function to eliminate spectral leakage at the expense of widening the main lobe
Much better handling of audio frequencies above 16 kHz
More flexible joint stereo (different methods can be used in different frequency ranges)
Adds additional modules (tools) to increase compression efficiency: TNS, Backwards Prediction, PNS etc... These modules can be combined to constitute different encoding profiles.
Overall, the AAC format allows developers more flexibility to design codecs than MP3 does, and corrects many of the design choices made in the original MPEG-1 audio specification. This increased flexibility often leads to more concurrent encoding strategies and, as a result, to more efficient compression. However, in terms of whether AAC is better than MP3, the advantages of AAC are not entirely decisive, and the MP3 specification, although antiquated, has proven surprisingly robust in spite of considerable flaws. AAC and HE-AAC are better than MP3 at low bit rates (typically less than 128 kilobits per second)[citation needed]. This is especially true at very low bit rates where the superior stereo coding, pure MDCT, and better transform window sizes leave MP3 unable to compete. However, as bit rate increases, the efficiency of an audio format becomes less important relative to the efficiency of the encoder's implementation, and the intrinsic advantage AAC holds over MP3 no longer dominates audio quality[citation needed].
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Personally I just think it's apple fanboys, but whatever.
If I say it, then you can guarantee it's not an apple fanboy thing. :lol
256kb/s does not sound the same with every codec, because the bitrate only refers to the filesize, NOT the audio quality. The bitrate is only an accurate comparison of sound quality when comparing two files of the same codec. But AAC and MP3 are not the same codec.
I don't know if 256 AAC will sound as good as 320 MP3. I haven't compared them. But there's no reason why it couldn't be true, and that has nothing to do with Apple.
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"More sample frequencies (from 8 to 96 kHz) than MP3 (16 to 48 kHz)"
Humans can hear 20hz to 20khz so who cares.
"Up to 48 channels (MP3 supports up to two channels in MPEG-1 mode and up to 5.1 channels in MPEG-2 mode)"
Who the hell needs 48 channels?
"Much better handling of audio frequencies above 16 kHz"
Do you know how hard it is to hear 16khz frequencies and above?
The rest of it I obviously won't argue with. I guess I just don't like it because Apple always makes all the files bigger by adding DRM and personal information to it, and they're the only ones who use the codec.
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"More sample frequencies (from 8 to 96 kHz) than MP3 (16 to 48 kHz)"
Humans can hear 20hz to 20khz so who cares.
A higher sample rate means more accurate reproduction of sounds, including ones below 20Khz. Also keep in mind that to create a waveform requires a file of a sample rate of at least double that. So to create a basic sound of 20Khz requires a sample rate of at least 40Khz. And that's just for a basic sine wave. If you want quality in those higher frequencies, you'd want higher frequency. I don't even know why you're arguing that supporting higher quality is anything but good. Bluray supports up to 96Khz. So does DVD-Audio. Got a problem with those too?
"Up to 48 channels (MP3 supports up to two channels in MPEG-1 mode and up to 5.1 channels in MPEG-2 mode)"
Who the hell needs 48 channels?
At this stage, probably nobody. But what's wrong with supporting the option for expansion? It could mean a full multi-track recording in one file. The option is there. DVD supports up to 8 separate audio tracks. Who the hell needs that? The NTSF file system supports up to 256 TB drives. Who the hell needs that? 64 bit computers support addressing up to 16 exabytes of RAM. Who the hell needs that? It supports more than it needs. That's not something to complain about.
"Much better handling of audio frequencies above 16 kHz"
Do you know how hard it is to hear 16khz frequencies and above?
And yet when low quality MP3s discard those frequencies, it sounds like shit. Just because you can't hear a tone of 16Khz, doesn't mean those frequencies aren't important to the audio you can hear. It affects the accuracy of all frequencies.
None of this has anything to do with Apple.
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I'm probably going to join iCloud just so I can upgrade and legalize all of the old music that I pirated back in the day.
can you explain how this works?
Say I pirated DT's BC&SL a couple years ago. I sign up for iCloud and it recognizes BC&SL in my iTunes on my laptop, so it adds it to my iCloud playlist or whatever it is. I link my desktop coputer to my iCloud account and have it download all of the music I have on there. It downloads BC&SL in 256mps AAC to my desktop computer, completely legit and legal. I then replace my pirated version of BC&SL on all my other devices with the legit iTunes version.
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None of this has anything to do with Apple.
I know I know I know
I just like having something to bitch about and Apple will probably always be there :P
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None of this has anything to do with Apple.
I know I know I know
I just like having something to bitch about and Apple will probably always be there :P
Trust me, if there was something to bitch about when Apple is concerned, I am right here with you. :lol
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"More sample frequencies (from 8 to 96 kHz) than MP3 (16 to 48 kHz)"
Humans can hear 20hz to 20khz so who cares.
You're confusing frequency response with sample rate.
"Up to 48 channels (MP3 supports up to two channels in MPEG-1 mode and up to 5.1 channels in MPEG-2 mode)"
Who the hell needs 48 channels?
"Who needs more than a 5 MB hard drive?" - some guy in the 80's.
"Much better handling of audio frequencies above 16 kHz"
Do you know how hard it is to hear 16khz frequencies and above?
That probably has more to do with your sound equipment than your hearing. And not every person has blasted their eardrums to the point where higher frequencies are inaudible.
Personally, I still use mp3 because it's universally supported and I play my music on a variety of devices. But that doesn't mean that AAC does not have its merits.
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I'm probably going to join iCloud just so I can upgrade and legalize all of the old music that I pirated back in the day.
can you explain how this works?
Say I pirated DT's BC&SL a couple years ago. I sign up for iCloud and it recognizes BC&SL in my iTunes on my laptop, so it adds it to my iCloud playlist or whatever it is. I link my desktop coputer to my iCloud account and have it download all of the music I have on there. It downloads BC&SL in 256mps AAC to my desktop computer, completely legit and legal. I then replace my pirated version of BC&SL on all my other devices with the legit iTunes version.
Just to clarify this is not the iCloud service. iCloud is free. This is itunes match but yes you are correct about the pirated stuff.
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"More sample frequencies (from 8 to 96 kHz) than MP3 (16 to 48 kHz)"
Humans can hear 20hz to 20khz so who cares.
Also keep in mind that higher frequency sounds can interfere with those at wavelengths we can hear. So when you cut off those higher frequencies it does influence the sound in a way we can hear.
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"More sample frequencies (from 8 to 96 kHz) than MP3 (16 to 48 kHz)"
Humans can hear 20hz to 20khz so who cares.
Higher frequency components can still contribute to the overall waveform and therefore influence the pitch/tone humans hear.
https://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/timbre.html#c2
Plus when it comes to digital sampling you can easily introduce spurious frequency components. Its why all audio has to be sampled at at least 42khtz otherwise your high frequency components get destroyed. Generally the higher the sample rate the better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist_frequency
"Up to 48 channels (MP3 supports up to two channels in MPEG-1 mode and up to 5.1 channels in MPEG-2 mode)"
Who the hell needs 48 channels?
Professionals?
"Much better handling of audio frequencies above 16 kHz"
Do you know how hard it is to hear 16khz frequencies and above?
See point one.
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ok ok ok ok ok ok I get it
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To me this just goes to show that apple haters can be just as ignorant as apple worshippers. Tj for example takes a LOT of crap for not even being half as ignorant as you just were letters, even though you admitted it.
This is definitely not meant as a personal insult or something, it's just what I observed.
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tj won't admit anything :lol
The cover songs thread comes to mind.
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Yeah, I'm not saying he doesn't get what's coming to him from time to time, but sometimes it's just because he loves Apple so much and not what he's actually trying to convey.
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tj won't admit anything :lol
The cover songs thread comes to mind.
Dude, if you want to bother him about what he said in another thread do it there. You have only whined here because it's related to Apple... we get it, but please stop posting here if you don't have anything to contribute to the thread.
I wonder if I suscribe to the iCloud service Apple is going to send some cents to that obscure band (and label) in Spain or wherever. :lol
Yeah, I have pirated music in the past and have a reasonable amount of mp3s in low 128 192/kbps. At least I'll be able to download it in the much better AAC 256/kbps. Now, I guess Apple won't dare to change a file that, say, I have in mp3 320/kbps and lower it to the AAC 256/kbps. If it does to the lower bit rates I mentioned I wouldn't care.
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Yes they will. They won't actually change the file on your hard drive of course, but the one you will download to your iPhone for example will be a 256 kb/s AAC version.
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Yes they will. They won't actually change the file on your hard drive of course, but the one you will download to your iPhone for example will be a 256 kb/s AAC version.
Bastards.
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tj won't admit anything :lol
The cover songs thread comes to mind.
Dude, if you want to bother him about what he said in another thread do it there. You have only whined here because it's related to Apple... we get it, but please stop posting here if you don't have anything to contribute to the thread.
I wonder if I suscribe to the iCloud service Apple is going to send some cents to that obscure band (and label) in Spain or wherever. :lol
Yeah, I have pirated music in the past and have a reasonable amount of mp3s in low 128 192/kbps. At least I'll be able to download it in the much better AAC 256/kbps. Now, I guess Apple won't dare to change a file that, say, I have in mp3 320/kbps and lower it to the AAC 256/kbps. If it does to the lower bit rates I mentioned I wouldn't care.
Yeah but really listen to a 320 mp3 and a 256k AAC and see if there is a difference to your ear. Some actually think the AAC sounds better some don't but really it's not that much of a difference.
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As far as ignorance goes...
I don't think i've very ignorant to be honest. I don't have a problem with any file formats, computers, whatever. My cousin who is also one of my best friends is trying to work for google and is developing for android. We talk about it a lot and I fully support his goals as he does mine. He helps me in school because he just got his degree in what I am trying to get. He's also a Linux guy and teaches me about that. I show him some mac stuff and it's all good. Just because i prefer one thing over another doesn't mean i'm ignorant of the others.
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Ignorant probably isn't the right word but you're not going to tell me you don't know what I meant.
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Ignorant probably isn't the right word but you're not going to tell me you don't know what I meant.
It's been well established i've been an Apple lover since 2000. Other than that i don't know what else to say. I don't go into the android thread and start bashing shit because I don't care if people use it or not, that's up to them. Same goes for other companies as well. I would work for google in a heart beat if I could get a good job there, or Microsoft.
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Hating on Apple is just the cool thing to do these days. I realize it may not be worth the limitless praise that (a very select few) crazy fanboys give it, but what computer company IS?
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I don't like their products at all, but I don't really have a problem with the company itself because I don't give 3 flying duckfuckers about what they do
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A higher sample rate means more accurate reproduction of sounds, including ones below 20Khz. Also keep in mind that to create a waveform requires a file of a sample rate of at least double that. So to create a basic sound of 20Khz requires a sample rate of at least 40Khz. And that's just for a basic sine wave. If you want quality in those higher frequencies, you'd want higher frequency. I don't even know why you're arguing that supporting higher quality is anything but good. Bluray supports up to 96Khz. So does DVD-Audio. Got a problem with those too?
NYQUIST-SHANNON SAMPLING THEOREM.
Wow, I actually did learn something at university.
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This is interesting
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/02/icloud_runs_on_microsoft_azure_and_amazon/ (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/02/icloud_runs_on_microsoft_azure_and_amazon/)
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If in the past I ripped a burned CD onto my PC (those songs were low quality and with no id3v tags) and I acquire the iCloud service, will Apple organize automatically those songs to their respective albums, year, track number, genre etc.? That would be really cool.
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If in the past I ripped a burned CD onto my PC (those songs were low quality and with no id3v tags) and I acquire the iCloud service, will Apple organize automatically those songs to their respective albums, year, track number, genre etc.? That would be really cool.
Is the artist and album listed for the songs?
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It was a mix CD.
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It was a mix CD.
I "Think" As long as there is the song name and artist you will have a good chance of getting it matched. Album would help more obviously.
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So I installed itunes on my parents' computer so my mom could load stuff on her ipod, and it somehow deleted the WMP mp3 encoder, so you can't rip CDs into mp3 format anymore. lol.
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So I installed itunes on my parents' computer so my mom could load stuff on her ipod, and it somehow deleted the WMP mp3 encoder, so you can't rip CDs into mp3 format anymore. lol.
Task completed then. ;)
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So I installed itunes on my parents' computer so my mom could load stuff on her ipod, and it somehow deleted the WMP mp3 encoder, so you can't rip CDs into mp3 format anymore. lol.
Yep, they do that. It rips them automatically in AAC. Yet iTunes has the option to make MP3 CDs... sense, it makes none.
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You can change it though, I just used iTunes to re-rip all my CDs to MP3 320 because my car stereo doesn't read AAC.
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May have been posted before....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=GdIanqM_RZ8
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Question: I have an iMac Version 10.6.8, and I am having a slight problem with a plug-in failure. Like, if I want to watch something on youtube, for example. It works for a while, but then the flash fails. Granted, if I restart the computer, it is fine again for a while, and then the same thing happens, but I shouldn't have to do that. Is there an easy to way to fix that? I use Safari, in case that could be a part of the problem.
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I'll assume you've got Safari and Flash player updated to the latest version. Have you tested in other browsers to see if you have the same problem over time? It sounds like a Flash Safari plugin issue to me.
I recently had some Flash player problems (it was crashing my entire computer) and I managed to fix it by disabling hardware acceleration for Flash player (right click the flash player window and go to the settings). Might not do a damn thing for your problem, but it couldn't hurt to try if you're out of other options.
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I always do every update, so, yes to that. I am not having problems with crashing or anything, and like I said, the plug-in failure might not happen for a day or so after a restart (depending on how much I am online), but it always happens eventually, and is always fine once I restart the iMac. I don't have any other browsers on here, but I guess I can download one and find out.
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My guess is something else is triggering the failure. After your restart, some other task or software through your daily/weekly routine causes an issue. Maybe try to track what you normally do while testing and see where the brake occurs?
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Turns out it is a problem with Safari. I downloaded Firefox, waited until a plug-in failure happened again, and then tried to watch the same thing in Firefox. And it worked just fine. So, the problem is with Safari. Any way to fix that, or should I just use Firefox all of the time now?
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So I've finally gone Mac. Got a MacBook Pro 15", and it's AWESOME.
Hey guys, tell me cool stuff that Macs can do
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Suck.
/troll
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So I've finally gone Mac. Got a MacBook Pro 15", and it's AWESOME.
Hey guys, tell me cool stuff that Macs can do
Well what are you interested in?
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So I've finally gone Mac. Got a MacBook Pro 15", and it's AWESOME.
Hey guys, tell me cool stuff that Macs can do
Wait, so you're telling me that you went out and bought an expensive laptop without knowing the reason you wanted it?
If not, please correct me because that's what the post makes it sound like.
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You could have had the baddest ass desktop for the price you paid for a mac
laptops :(
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Not a fan of laptops myself. I have a netbook for travelling but that's about it.
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I know someone who bought a 900 dollar laptop "for school", and he's mad he can't game on it. I told him he could have built a good gaming desktop and bought a decent laptop for note taking/light internet for that price.
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Interesting news. looks like adobe blinked first, you can now stream flash videos to iPads , flash games still don't work though
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Interesting news. looks like adobe blinked first, you can now stream flash videos to iPads , flash games still don't work though
Thing is you have been able to do this for a couple years now with iOS using other browsers on the app store besides safari. But its cool adobe is getting into it.
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So I've finally gone Mac. Got a MacBook Pro 15", and it's AWESOME.
Hey guys, tell me cool stuff that Macs can do
Wait, so you're telling me that you went out and bought an expensive laptop without knowing the reason you wanted it?
If not, please correct me because that's what the post makes it sound like.
Oh no, I bought it because I'm starting a degree in Music Production in a couple of weeks and I'm going to need it for recording and mixing in Logic. I just wanted to know some nice little touches that Apple have added, or some cool apps, or little things of that ilk.
You could have had the baddest ass desktop for the price you paid for a mac
laptops :(
I'm going to need to take it to college, so I'd rather have the laptop.
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Learning a master key commands will make your life much better and work faster on OSX. I would start there! But the Mac app store is great. VLC is a must. What kinds of things do you want to do that you don't know how to do on the mac? Maybe we can start there.
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Wait please don't tell me you have to pay for VLC on a mac.
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lol no. :omg:
Oh also get handbrake. That's an essential freebie as well.
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the Mac app store is great. VLC is a must.
Okay, I just saw these two together and got afraid.
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Oh I was thinking about Handbrake. What's so good about VLC? I'm using iTunes for my iPod, and that probably won't change
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VLC is the best video player ever. Plays any format and it will even play broken videos.
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VLC is the best video player ever. Plays any format and it will even play broken videos.
YYUP. It runs insanely fast, opens every media format known to man, repairs broken files, and doesn't have any of the bullshit DRM that itunes has.
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Sounds prty kwl. Might have to get that.
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VLC is the best video player ever. Plays any format and it will even play broken videos.
Meh. It's alright. It's freeze frame is completely useless garbage, the shortcut keys you set don't stick half the time, and the video player size is often weird when you first open it (and when it finishes playing a video).
But it is great for playing every format without messing around with codecs, and great for broken/incomplete videos. It also has a lot of great options for cropping/stretching/deinterlacing/colour adjustment etc.
It's probably the best thing you'll find for Mac though. Didn't even know there was a Mac version.
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Is it worth me buying Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac (I can get it for Ł38 from https://www.software4students.co.uk/), or will textedit be fine for now? Or should I get the Apple equivalents? Considering I'm starting college soon
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Is it worth me buying Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac (I can get it for Ł38 from https://www.software4students.co.uk/), or will textedit be fine for now? Or should I get the Apple equivalents? Considering I'm starting college soon
Go with iWork you won't regret it. I have both actually and stopped using office. Coming in a month or so iWork will be available for iCloud which will be awesome. Basically anytime you create and iWork file it will auto upload to the cloud in the background and you will have access to it from anywhere and any device that can read that format. You can also save as Doc files if the school requires that, and Pdfs of course.
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Also each application is only 20 bucks. So you can pick and choose which ones you need or buy them all. They are...
Pages (which is similar to word.)
Numbers (similar to excel)
and Keynote (which is vastly superior to power point imo.)
Like I said you can actually save as the office files from iWork if needed.
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Sounds awesome. And iWork can read Office files?
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Sounds awesome. And iWork can read Office files?
Yes.
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Awesome :) Thanks man
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my iphone is not connecting to my computer and is charging really slowly in the wall outlet + not doing the big battery display thing like it usually would
there are no apple stores around me where i could talk to a tech support person or something
GODDAMN TYPICAL OF STEVE JOBS TO SELL ME A MIRACLE PHONE AND IT GOES TO SHIT AFTER A YEAR
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I was this close to getting a new Mac. But I'm tired of reading about how FCPX is mediocre at best. With student loans and education pricing, I can get virtually every Adobe Program (including Premiere and After Effects) as well as a monster PC. Why should I turn down all of that for an editor that might disappear from the professional market in a couple years?
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my iphone is not connecting to my computer and is charging really slowly in the wall outlet + not doing the big battery display thing like it usually would
there are no apple stores around me where i could talk to a tech support person or something
GODDAMN TYPICAL OF STEVE JOBS TO SELL ME A MIRACLE PHONE AND IT GOES TO SHIT AFTER A YEAR
Can you just call apple tech support?
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I was this close to getting a new Mac. But I'm tired of reading about how FCPX is mediocre at best. With student loans and education pricing, I can get virtually every Adobe Program (including Premiere and After Effects) as well as a monster PC. Why should I turn down all of that for an editor that might disappear from the professional market in a couple years?
FCPX is the future, it's just a 1.0 release right now give it time. They are selling FCP 7 again though.
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I was this close to getting a new Mac. But I'm tired of reading about how FCPX is mediocre at best. With student loans and education pricing, I can get virtually every Adobe Program (including Premiere and After Effects) as well as a monster PC. Why should I turn down all of that for an editor that might disappear from the professional market in a couple years?
FCPX is the future, it's just a 1.0 release right now give it time. They are selling FCP 7 again though.
FCP7 is too expensive relative to what I'm trying to do. I was originally going to get the express version, which had a couple less features but was essentially the same program for 200 dollars. I have around 3000 dollars in student loan money to work with, and a 2000 dollar Mac, to me, isn't worth getting a 1000 dollar FCP7. I can get a 2000 dollar PC (way beefier specs, even if the numbers don't necessary 100% translate into performance) as well as the entire Adobe suite for 1000 dollars (thank you education pricing). I can either pay 3000 dollars for a very very expensive computer and a barely adequate editor, or 3000 dollars for a well priced and very nice computer with virtually all of Adobe CS5.5. I don't see how I go with Apple.
Right now, I have no reason to believe FCPX is the future. The professional editing market is absolutely killing it. I don't see why they would make the choice to switch over.
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More power to you then.
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I was this close to getting a new Mac. But I'm tired of reading about how FCPX is mediocre at best. With student loans and education pricing, I can get virtually every Adobe Program (including Premiere and After Effects) as well as a monster PC. Why should I turn down all of that for an editor that might disappear from the professional market in a couple years?
FCPX is the future, it's just a 1.0 release right now give it time. They are selling FCP 7 again though.
FCP7 is too expensive relative to what I'm trying to do. I was originally going to get the express version, which had a couple less features but was essentially the same program for 200 dollars. I have around 3000 dollars in student loan money to work with, and a 2000 dollar Mac, to me, isn't worth getting a 1000 dollar FCP7. I can get a 2000 dollar PC (way beefier specs, even if the numbers don't necessary 100% translate into performance) as well as the entire Adobe suite for 1000 dollars (thank you education pricing). I can either pay 3000 dollars for a very very expensive computer and a barely adequate editor, or 3000 dollars for a well priced and very nice computer with virtually all of Adobe CS5.5. I don't see how I go with Apple.
Right now, I have no reason to believe FCPX is the future. The professional editing market is absolutely killing it. I don't see why they would make the choice to switch over.
Go with the PC/Adobe. Then you've got free tech support from this guy. :biggrin:
Also if you're doing any kind of editing, go for the beefiest setup you can for your money, ie PC. Sorry to say that in an Apple thread, but it's totally true.
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Question related to iTunes.... TJ, maybe you could help me out.
I purchased ADTOE this morning with my iPad. I'd like to put it on my iPod as well. I currently do not have a computer with iTunes. I went to the iTunes store on my iPod figuring that based on my account info it would recognize the album as already purchased and just let me download it. This is not the case. Is there anyway I can get an album on both devices without using a computer as an intermediary as well as not having to pay for the album twice?
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Wait for TJ, but I'm pretty sure if you click "buy" on your iPod, a dialog box will pop up informing you that you've already purchased it and if you want to download it again.
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Wait for TJ, but I'm pretty sure if you click "buy" on your iPod, a dialog box will pop up informing you that you've already purchased it and if you want to download it again.
Yeah, I got thatnfar but figured it was going to charge me again. There are some apps I bought for my iPod, when I went to them for my iPad the 'buy' button was replaced with an 'install' button automatically. I assumed iTunes would work the same way.
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Hey TJ, the Handbrake for Mac OS download here (https://handbrake.fr/downloads.php) doesn't mentioned 10.7. Will it work with Lion?
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Most likely. I'm actually using snow leopard until 10.7.2 is released so i'm not sure but I would give it a try it's not going to hurt anything.
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Question related to iTunes.... TJ, maybe you could help me out.
I purchased ADTOE this morning with my iPad. I'd like to put it on my iPod as well. I currently do not have a computer with iTunes. I went to the iTunes store on my iPod figuring that based on my account info it would recognize the album as already purchased and just let me download it. This is not the case. Is there anyway I can get an album on both devices without using a computer as an intermediary as well as not having to pay for the album twice?
I've been using the ios5 beta for a few months now so I kind of forget how it works on 4 but There is a purchased music section where you can re download songs you've already purchased. Do you see that? It should be a tab in the itunes store section of your device. If not than it's an iOS 5 thing. Let me know either way, i'm sure there is another way.
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I have a 64GB iPod Touch 4th Gen that I don't really use much anymore. My friend has the 8GB version and has offered to swap plus pay me $120. Good deal?
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I have a 64GB iPod Touch 4th Gen that I don't really use much anymore. My friend has the 8GB version and has offered to swap plus pay me $120. Good deal?
Sure, you get $120 for something you don't use very much anymore and something to replace it with. Can't see how this is a bad deal at all. Though out of principle tell him you'll take $150.
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I have a 64GB iPod Touch 4th Gen that I don't really use much anymore. My friend has the 8GB version and has offered to swap plus pay me $120. Good deal?
I mentioned to my dad the other day that I wish I got the 64gig iPad instead of the 16. He offered me 250 for mine... Decisions decisions
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Holy mother of god Apple hit 422 today! :hefdaddy
Can't imagine where it's going to be by the end of the year.
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OVER 9000!?!?!?
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https://www.engadget.com/2011/09/21/report-apple-to-hold-media-event-on-october-4th-tim-cook-to-un/
Report: Apple to hold media event on October 4th, Tim Cook to unveil iPhone 5
We have yet to receive official word on this, but All Things Digital is reporting today that Apple's next big media event will be held on October 4th, where freshly minted CEO Tim Cook is expected to unveil the iPhone 5. Sources close to the situation say Cook will be the main presenter at the event, with execs Phil Schiller, Scott Forstall and Eddy Cue playing supporting roles. This would mark the first time that Cook has actually led an Apple event, adding an extra wrinkle of significance to an already highly anticipated occasion. The site's sources went on to say that the next-gen iPhone will be available for purchase "within a few weeks" of the announcement, though All Things Digital acknowledges that the exact date of its unveiling is still subject to change. As always, we'll be sure to keep you posted as soon as we hear more.
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Why they haven't announced it already is beyond my mind. I think it will be a flop.
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Nah. The biggest thing here is Steve Jobs not presenting it. (And I don't want it to be a flop, it's going to be my first iPhone)
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Why they haven't announced it already is beyond my mind. I think it will be a flop.
Seriously? Projections on this are it's going to be the biggest selling iphone yet world wide.
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Hopefully iOS5 will come with it too! I've been waiting for it to go on my iPhone since its announcement!
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Hopefully iOS5 will come with it too! I've been waiting for it to go on my iPhone since its announcement!
Been beta testing it for a few months now. You will love it.
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Why they haven't announced it already is beyond my mind. I think it will be a flop.
Seriously? Projections on this are it's going to be the biggest selling iphone yet world wide.
Sure, but with flop I mean that it's not going to live up to the hype feature-wise. Meaning if it was any other company people would just buy another phone. But Apple is just so cool now.
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Hopefully iOS5 will come with it too! I've been waiting for it to go on my iPhone since its announcement!
Been beta testing it for a few months now. You will love it.
Whats your favourite feature on the iOS? The notifications were the thing that attracted me the most, along with iMessage
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Having a strange issue with my macbook. After doing updates a few days ago, firefox is unresponsive when I open up my computer. I click on a different tab and it takes at least a minute before it actually goes to it. After the initial issue, it works fine. Help please?
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Yeah, same here with Safari. Weird. When I start it up with Safari in front when I shut it down it tries to reload to the tabs I had when I shut down and that causes it to freeze sometimes.
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Having a strange issue with my macbook. After doing updates a few days ago, firefox is unresponsive when I open up my computer. I click on a different tab and it takes at least a minute before it actually goes to it. After the initial issue, it works fine. Help please?
Get Chrome. It's just better.
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Yeah, same here with Safari. Weird. When I start it up with Safari in front when I shut it down it tries to reload to the tabs I had when I shut down and that causes it to freeze sometimes.
Ah I haven't tried to see if I have the same problem with safari. Did it work find previously? I don't know what change could affect how things operate in the first minutes of opening the computer.
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Having a strange issue with my macbook. After doing updates a few days ago, firefox is unresponsive when I open up my computer. I click on a different tab and it takes at least a minute before it actually goes to it. After the initial issue, it works fine. Help please?
Maybe a bad install? Try downloading the OS combo update from apple to the newest one. And re installing. First try this though.. I know it might seem weird but sometimes this works...
at the top of your desktop go to.. "go" then "utilities." then "disk utility" Then select your HD and click repair disk permissions. That sometimes will fix strange issues.
If that doesn't work trying download the combo update.
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Thanks TJ, will try that when I get home from work and let you know how it goes.
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Hopefully iOS5 will come with it too! I've been waiting for it to go on my iPhone since its announcement!
Been beta testing it for a few months now. You will love it.
Whats your favourite feature on the iOS? The notifications were the thing that attracted me the most, along with iMessage
Notifications are great but I really Love iMessage. For iPad I love AirPlay mirroring and the split keyboard that's moveable. Way easier to type on for me. There are many minor improvements and some major. Oh and of course wifi sync. That's been a looooong time coming. Works way better than the old jailbreak version.
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Thanks TJ, will try that when I get home from work and let you know how it goes.
Ok cool also restart after you repair permissions.
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at the top of your desktop go to.. "go" then "utilities." then "disk utility" Then select your HD and click repair disk permissions. That sometimes will fix strange issues.
This worked! Thanks!
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Happily using my new computer.
It's a PC.
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Happily using my new computer.
It's a PC.
I'm a PC guy too, but isn't posting this in an Apple thread just being a troll?
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Happily using my new computer.
It's a PC.
And that's relevant to this thread.. how?
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at the top of your desktop go to.. "go" then "utilities." then "disk utility" Then select your HD and click repair disk permissions. That sometimes will fix strange issues.
This worked! Thanks!
oh nice! Glad i could help.
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Can't wait for tabbed web browsing and split keyboard for my iPad !
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I hope they at least try to resolve the Flash issues/battles. But then again, if they make the future IOS devices fully HTLM5 compilable then I suppose there won't be a need to resolve Flash issues.
I know they already have HTLM5 but I mean replace Flash as a whole, because thats the only thing which is stopping me from getting an iPad.
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I hope they at least try to resolve the Flash issues/battles. But then again, if they make the future IOS devices fully HTLM5 compilable then I suppose there won't be a need to resolve Flash issues.
I know they already have HTLM5 but I mean replace Flash as a whole, because thats the only thing which is stopping me from getting an iPad.
I will admit that the flash thing bugs me a lot more than I thought it would. I never realalized how many sites I visitnrequire flash. I really hate having to use YouTube mobile.
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If you really want it, why not just JB and install Frash? I had it on my iPHone for a while and used it one time. Eventually I got tired of Jailbreaking and i don't miss it but if you do then just do that. It's free.
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Just popping in here to say iOS 5 and iCloud are really nice!
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If you really want it, why not just JB and install Frash? I had it on my iPHone for a while and used it one time. Eventually I got tired of Jailbreaking and i don't miss it but if you do then just do that. It's free.
Never really thought about that. Im not sure I trust myself.
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Nothing to trust really you just follow the directions!
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I'm all giddy for this new release. My first iPhone! :caffeine:
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I don't even own an iphone and this pisses me off. I must have heard/read 50+ times in the last week crap about iphone users just getting an iphone 4 and will be buying the iphone 5 immediately just because it is Apple. While this does apply to many, it doesn't apply to all. No where near all. The iphone 4 came out 15 months ago. If someone got one at or around launch, I don't see anything wrong with them upgrading. I got my droidX last Halloween and I can't wait to upgrade to another phone. Sure everyone that has an iphone has a 4th gen now, but when it came out it took many users months if not a year+ to make the switch. I don't really know what I'm trying to say here, but the radio was blasting the iphone 5 and apple users this morning and it made me angry.
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As someone who's had the same Nokia flip phone for three years, the idea of buying a new smartphone every year is pretty absurd to me, regardless of the brand.
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I don't even own an iphone and this pisses me off. I must have heard/read 50+ times in the last week crap about iphone users just getting an iphone 4 and will be buying the iphone 5 immediately just because it is Apple. While this does apply to many, it doesn't apply to all. No where near all. The iphone 4 came out 15 months ago. If someone got one at or around launch, I don't see anything wrong with them upgrading. I got my droidX last Halloween and I can't wait to upgrade to another phone. Sure everyone that has an iphone has a 4th gen now, but when it came out it took many users months if not a year+ to make the switch. I don't really know what I'm trying to say here, but the radio was blasting the iphone 5 and apple users this morning and it made me angry.
Haters gonna hate basically. Most likely I will be waiting until the iPhone 6 because I am happy with the 4 but... if the Iphone 5 is really that awesome I may consider selling mine and getting the 5.
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more iPhone 5 goodness...
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/03/why-assistant-needs-an-a5-and-how-it-was-many-iterations-ahead-of-its-competitors/
Why Assistant Needs an A5 and How it Was 'Many Iterations' Ahead of its Competitors
Siri co-founder Norman Winarsky provides some details and impressions of their original Siri Assistant technology in an interview with 9to5Mac. Siri was a virtual assistant application that was released for the iPhone back in February, 2010. While the app still remains in the App Store, the company was acquired by Apple back in April, 2010.
Apple is expected to finally launch their own version of this intelligent assistant interface alongside the new iPhone at tomorrow's media event. The new feature is expected to be exclusive to the new iPhone which carries a faster A5 processor.
Winarsky provides some details about why the software would require so much processing power. While the original version of the software does run on the iPhone 3GS, he says that "all kinds of optimizations and shortcuts" were done to get it to work on the device. Winarsky reports that it will likely run "much better" on a faster phone.
Winarsky is also not bashful about what the significance of Apple's adaptation of Siri technology would mean, calling it a "World-Changing" event:
Make no mistake: Apple’s ‘mainstreaming’ Artificial Intelligence in the form of a Virtual Personal Assistant is a groundbreaking event. I’d go so far as to say it is a World-Changing event. Right now a few people dabble in partial AI enabled apps like Google Voice Actions, Vlingo or Nuance Go. Siri was many iterations ahead of these technologies, or at least it was two years ago. This is REAL AI with REAL market use. If the rumors are true, Apple will enable millions upon millions of people to interact with machines with natural language. The PAL will get things done and this is only the tip of the iceberg. We’re talking another technology revolution. A new computing paradigm shift.
Many have compared the technology to Google's Voice Actions for Android, but Winarsky believes their technology was much more advanced.
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I have never used a voice command on my phone.
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Me neither. But hey, Apple seems to change trends.
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18 minutes. ;D
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I'm due for an upgrade...My Droid X has been great the past year but I may just be wooed away by Apple.
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I'm curious to see what will happen to the iPod Touch.
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live ts show covering the event. Watching this...
https://live.twit.tv/ (https://live.twit.tv/)
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I think CNN will put out a live stream that is a few minutes behind: https://live.cnn.com/
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So the Japanese have announced that there is an iPhone 4s?
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Waiting like a true Mac Geek for all the live blogs to begin. Really hoping for a surprise but expecting a low key upgrade.
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https://www.ustream.tv/channel/applelivekeynotes
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I need a live stream!!!
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just popping in to say: Android.
... I hate how Apple gets all this media coverage. they release a new product every year, the last product slightly better than the last but with the Apple name on it meaning they can sell it for Ł200 more. REALLY. most of the technology that is in the iPhone 5, unless it's something "revolutionary" (which is claimed about every bloody year), can already be found in most of the top end smartphones. yet still, it's Apple, the average consumer leaps at the brand name and there's another Ł200 in profit... thank you very much!
/rant
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jesus cook nobody gives a shit about any of this stuff
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just popping in to say: Android.
... I hate how Apple gets all this media coverage. they release a new product every year, the last product slightly better than the last but with the Apple name on it meaning they can sell it for Ł200 more. REALLY. most of the technology that is in the iPhone 5, unless it's something "revolutionary" (which is claimed about every bloody year), can already be found in most of the top end smartphones. yet still, it's Apple, the average consumer leaps at the brand name and there's another Ł200 in profit... thank you very much!
/rant
If i did this in the android thread I would be killed BTW.
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jesus cook nobody gives a shit about any of this stuff
They give numbers like this at EVERY keynote.
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jesus cook nobody gives a shit about any of this stuff
They give numbers like this at EVERY keynote.
SHOW ME DA FONE
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jesus cook nobody gives a shit about any of this stuff
They give numbers like this at EVERY keynote.
SHOW ME DA FONE
iOS 5 first. Which is very important.
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SHO ME DA FONE
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just popping in to say: Android.
... I hate how Apple gets all this media coverage. they release a new product every year, the last product slightly better than the last but with the Apple name on it meaning they can sell it for Ł200 more. REALLY. most of the technology that is in the iPhone 5, unless it's something "revolutionary" (which is claimed about every bloody year), can already be found in most of the top end smartphones. yet still, it's Apple, the average consumer leaps at the brand name and there's another Ł200 in profit... thank you very much!
/rant
GET THE HELL OUT OF MY THREAD!
SHOW IT TO ME!!! I WANT TO SEE IT LIVE!!! NOT TONIGHT ON YOUTUBE!!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
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Hallmark just got served!
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yeah...can't wait to mail some cards
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Just gotta say the Notification system is superb. An improvement over the old one and I would say android and web os. And that's not trying to flame that's from using each one.
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ios5 GM TODAY! NICE!
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Where the hell are you watching this? Even Engadget is down :lol
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Where the hell are you watching this? Even Engadget is down :lol
https://live.twit.tv/
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dear god this is so boring
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dear god this is so boring
They are usually 2 hours long.
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iPhone 4S
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So 4g speed. That was expected of course.
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Did they really say that the 4S is faster than a computer?
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First phone with Video IS built in. That's pretty cool.
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Air play mirroring from iphone now which means all games apps etc.. on your big screen with the audio. That's awesome.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW they weren't kidding with this SIRI thing. There isn't anything this advanced on the market right now. This really makes me want it now!
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Sorry to go back to the iPods, but they didn't mention the classic. Does that mean it's been dropped?
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Sorry to go back to the iPods, but they didn't mention the classic. Does that mean it's been dropped?
They didn't say either way.
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Air play mirroring from iphone now which means all games apps etc.. on your big screen with the audio. That's awesome.
what? don't I already get games and apps on my screen with audio?
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He means on your TV. (I assume)
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Air play mirroring from iphone now which means all games apps etc.. on your big screen with the audio. That's awesome.
what? don't I already get games and apps on my screen with audio?
I think he meant like a TV or monitor.
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soooo like pay for a $60 HDMI chord adapter?
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soooo like pay for a $60 HDMI chord adapter?
What? It's air play mirroring. So let's say you are playing a game on your iphone, it will mirror on your TV instantly. Essentially using your iphone/ipad as a gaming controller. So this adds games and apps to the apple TV and web browsing.
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Only if my tv has wifi then? Because I'm pretty sure my tv wouldn't do that.
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Only if my tv has wifi then? Because I'm pretty sure my tv wouldn't do that.
You have to have that Apple TV thingy.
soooo like pay for a $60 HDMI chord adapter?
What? It's air play mirroring. So let's say you are playing a game on your iphone, it will mirror on your TV instantly. Essentially using your iphone/ipad as a gaming controller. So this adds games and apps to the apple TV and web browsing.
Right. And that's what I've alwayed like about Apple products. Everything works with everything forever.
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yes if you have the 99 dollar apple TV. this adds some incredible functionality to it on top of what it already does for 99 bucks.
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If i did this in the android thread I would be killed BTW.
Kill him then. He was being an idiot.
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So my friends and I were talking on lunch hour that since this isn't a big update (say from 4 to 5) and the iPhone 4 is REALLY good, it's better business to buy the 4 instead of the 4S because it would be cheaper.
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Then again Siri looks AMAZING.
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But my question is... with IOS5, do you get the new improved Siri or do you HAVE to have teh 4S hardware for that? ???
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IPHONE 4S VIDEO!!!!
https://www.apple.com/iphone/#video-4s (https://www.apple.com/iphone/#video-4s)
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I dunno after watching that video and seeing the SIRI demo earlier.... This is a bigger update than people are leading on. It's basically iphone 5 but without a form change. If an iphone 5 was released the only difference I could see would be a form change so it's pretty awesome.
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iPod Classic $249.
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I dunno after watching that video and seeing the SIRI demo earlier.... This is a bigger update than people are leading on. It's basically iphone 5 but without a form change. If an iphone 5 was released the only difference I could see would be a form change so it's pretty awesome.
Nah, I'm still underwhelmed. Look at the changes, it's almost nothing big.
(https://i.imgur.com/tjBjr.png)
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Does the 4 only come in 8GB now?
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My wife is going to be upset. She's been waiting to get an iphone because she doesn't like the look/feel of the 4. :( She's been waiting for the 5 to come out for some time, now, because of that. With the rumors turning into this announcement she could have just gotten her phone half a year ago.
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but i think the changes are pretty big to be honest.
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Does the 4 only come in 8GB now?
Not if you want to buy mine!
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I agree - double processor power and much better camera is nice features.
I have an iPhone 3GS and I think I'll upgrade now, since I never did it for the iPhone 4. :)
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Does the 4 only come in 8GB now?
Not if you want to buy mine!
Oh I have no interest in an iPhone, I have an iPod Touch (3rd gen) that I really like and allows me to play the fun games that Apple have a massive advantage over Android with. For phone purposes I'm very much sticking with Android for now on I think.
I was just asking out of curiosity really. Seems a bit of a lame thing for them to do, but good business sense I guess.
Thing is, I'm surprised that they still don't appear to be developing a setting for the phone to vibrate slightly when you press the buttons, particularly when typing. It's one of my favourite features on my phone because typing on a touchscreen without the vibration I just really hate, and it's one of the reasons I have zero interest in an iPhone at present.
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I agree - double processor power and much better camera is nice features.
What actually is the processing power of the 4 and the 4S? Those comparisons emin posted don't really give anything useful on processing.
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Well, it's twice as fast (A5 processor) what you have with the iPhone 4. Of course it's going to be great that apps will work better and pages will load faster on Safari. But is that + Siri worth the change? (To people that have iPhone 3GS I would say yes). I have a piece of shit BB Curve, so it's also appealing... but I'm still underwhelmed.
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I'm definitely going to have to do some research on the latest Android phones, but the new iPhone looks very tempting.
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Well, it's twice as fast (A5 processor) what you have with the iPhone 4.
I don't know what A5 and A4 mean, they're just model numbers. I meant some kind of actual specs.
I'm definitely going to have to do some research on the latest Android phones, but the new iPhone looks very tempting.
The Galaxy S II is rather sexy. My mum has one (rather upsettingly she now has the coolest phone in the house) and it's gorgeous.
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I can't actually find a good comparison between the two chips, just news stories about what Apple's said about it.
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So I've been in the library the last 4 hours... was there no iphone5?
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I'm definitely going to have to do some research on the latest Android phones, but the new iPhone looks very tempting.
The Galaxy S II is rather sexy. My mum has one (rather upsettingly she now has the coolest phone in the house) and it's gorgeous.
https://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/iphone-4s-vs-the-smartphone-elite-galaxy-s-ii-bionic-and-tita/
Now that we know how the iPhone 4S stacks up against the iPhone 4, let's take a look at how Apple's latest smartphone compares to its mightiest competitors on the other major platforms -- Android and Windows Phone. In Google's camp we chose the superlative Samsung Galaxy S II models (focusing on the announced US variants) along with the Motorola Droid Bionic for its qHD and LTE chops. We then picked the upcoming HTC Titan to bat for Microsoft's team. RIM's not included here since it's still stuck in the junior leagues. We left out the intriguing Nokia N9 because it's a niche player. Check out the fancy table after the break -- the results are pretty clear cut!
(https://i.imgur.com/w8CzT.png)
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Galaxy S II: Still reigning.
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Thanks for that, emin, very informative! :tup
Interesting, so it seems the actual detailed specs aren't known yet. If the "likely" RAM and processing according to engadget are accurate then even if they're slightly behind the Galaxy S II they're still rather good.
EDIT: Oh also one more question - what is this SIRI thing that people have been talking about?
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Too bad that everyone I know with a Samsung has been regretting buying it, and I never had a problem with any Apple product ever.
Still going for the 4S in about a month time, although I would've hoped for a totally new v5.
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one more question - what is this SIRI thing that people have been talking about?
Check this short video, it gives a really good insight https://www.apple.com/iphone/#video-4s (the video does not show it, but it has embedded Wikipedia and Wolfram Alpha features)
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Galaxy S II: Still reigning.
A la hora de la verdad, specs are not everything. Galaxy may have a bigger screen but it does not touch the Retina Display. A5, for example, is designed specifically for the iPhone 4S so it really doesn't matter if it has a RAM of 512mb vs. the 1 GB Galaxy has, etc.
These kind of things must be taken into consideration as well.
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Galaxy S II: Still reigning.
A la hora de la verdad, specs are not everything. Galaxy may have a bigger screen but it does not touch the Retina Display. A5, for example, is designed specifically for the iPhone 4S so it really doesn't matter if it has a RAM of 512mb vs. the 1 GB Galaxy has, etc.
These kind of things must be taken into consideration as well.
True and we don't know how much ram is actually in it and we don't know the speed and it really shouldn't matter as long as it works well.
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Spoken like a true Mac user.
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RAM != processing power
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Maybe not directly, but it certainly can save a processor a lot of work in slow secondary memory calls.
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Spoken like a true Mac user.
:rollin :rollin
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https://www.fastcompany.com/1785071/apples-iphone5-october-4-with-ios5?partner=rss
Meet The iPhone 4S--It's What's Inside That Counts
BY Kit EatonToday
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It's here, Apple's iPhone 5, or rather the iPhone 4S--ending a ton of speculation about its name, and spurring hundreds of "what, no iPhone 5?" comments from webizens who'd been hoping for that exciting-sounding re-design to surface. The thing is, though, the iPhone for 2011 is very similar in external design to the iPhone for 2010, but its real selling power is what's inside. Apple honed, polished, boosted, adjusted, extended, and pushed the capabilities of the iPhone 4S to the max.
There's a good reason Apple kept the iPhone 4's chassis design the same: It works. Apple's been making these things (or at least its Eastern suppliers have) by the tens of million for well over a year now, and the process will have been optimized to the point that the cost of building them is tailing off fast--boosting profits. The decision also makes for improved reliability, allowing Apple to dodge any re-run of "antennagate" (which was, in any case, somewhat overblown) and learn the lessons about making the radio system of the iPhone 4S "just work." In fact, Apple made a point of mentioning the antenna in the presentation, saying it now does intelligent antenna switching to maximize the way it handles incoming and outgoing signals. Plus, there's all the peripherals out there that third-party firms sell, which will now remain compatible.
Then there's the fact that by combining the experience from the iPhone 4 and the CDMA edition, Apple's now made the 4S a world phone, with both CDMA and GSM capabilities--requiring some clever antenna action as well as some tweaked internals. As well as ensuring good performance, from a year of field experience, this means Apple can control production costs downwards, since they're only making one device. Apple even said the radio systems of the new phone can cope with 14 Mbps download data rates, meaning that it's almost approaching some 4G speeds--even though it's definitely a 3G-tech device.
So what Apple's done, primarily, is to make over the inside of the iPhone. The new 4S has an A5 processor, as expected, bringing the same dual-core processing power the iPad 2 sports to the iPhone. Alongside that comes a better graphics processing unit, which Apple says provides "up to 7x faster graphics"--a fact they used to demonstrate the game Infinity Blade 2, an almost game-console quality advancement on one of the games they used to promote the iPhone 4.
The camera inside the 4S was also given some attention by Apple, and whoever chose the hardware has proved they really understand what the photography game is all about--it's not the megapixels. Phil Schiller even said the pixel count was just a part of the game, and the optics and other aspects of the camera--like Apple's choice of a back-illuminating sensor, with a design that means 75% boost in light performance--matter most. The tiny lens on the unit now has five optical elements, welded together to optimize performance so that Apple says it has "30% more sharpness" over the iPhone 4, with an improved IR filter for better color reproduction. The physical changes mean the iPhone 4S's camera can handle low-light situations much better than its predecessor (including incorporating a dynamic noise suppression system).
Apple's also tweaked the hardware-software interface for the device, meaning image captures take 33% less time, and takes just 1.1 seconds after activating the camera app to allow you to take a photo. Compared it to its peers, the Samsung Galaxy S2 takes 2.0 seconds, and the Droid Bionic a huge 3.7, Apple reported. The iPhone 4S also has improved image data transport and processing time, so it takes just 0.5 seconds to take the next image, compared to the S2's 1.3 seconds, and the Bionic's 1.6 seconds. Add in 1080p video capture, image stabilization in video-mode, face recognition--a whole kettle-full of excitement all by itself--and the camera really threatens your traditional point-and-shoot cameras. The process to tweet out new images is just a single tap at the screen, and with iCloud the photos are automatically shared to a backup, features most cameras can't match.
Then there's Siri--the amazing personal assitant app we profiled a while back, then guessed would transform the iPhone. Siri (not "Assistant," as persistent rumors had suggested for the name) will only work on the iPhone 4S and it's a beta-install for now, with the beta meaning something akin to "expect more development imminently."
Though Apple didn't mention the reasons for the current limitations of Siri, they're likely due to the upgraded internals of the 4S over earlier iPhones, particulary the RAM available for the A5 chip. Siri's voice processing happens in the phone, unlike Google's equivalent services, which send samples of sound off to the cloud for processing...something that takes time, requires a good 3G connection and which will hit users on limited data tarrifs. It's hard to overstate exactly how transformational Siri is to the smartphone experience, and it's possible it may become one of the biggest draws to the new iPhone 4S.
As for the iPhone 4S's peer devices, check out our comparison chart below--the Galaxy S2 and HTC Amaze are likely to be its biggest high-profile competitors for the key holiday season sales.
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While iOS 5 and software bonuses like Siri are impressive, the hardware-software synergy of the iPhone 4S is what Apple's been working on the most. The new tapered chassis that was the subject of so many rumors is probably still on tap, but by polishing the design and keeping the price point controlled, it's managed to keep the iPhone at the top of the smartphone market.
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Spoken like a true Mac user.
Give me a break. I have 8 gigs of ram in my laptop. We are talking about an iPhone. Plenty of horse power in it.
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It is rather strange to on one hand praise it for having a faster processor, but then claim that specs don't really matter.
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It is rather strange to on one hand praise it for having a faster processor, but then claim that specs don't really matter.
It's not praise, each new phone is going to continue to have faster processors. How well does that phone work? That's all that should really matter. It it works much better with a faster processor than great. I will save iOS5 makes the iPhone 4 run better and no processor upgrade required. Iphone 4 users are going to really like the new software.
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Ok so the real test came tonight when I showed my wife the iphone 4s part of the keynote. (She's not a tech geek at all.) She went from not caring about it to saying... so when I am getting this? I said in a while i guess and she said.. "No i REALLY want this!" So it looks like i'm going to buy here one if i can sell her iphone 4 which shouldn't be a problem.
She's the average consumer who doesn't care about the shit I care about but was blown away by the camera and the siri demonstration.
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What? The average consumer is wowed by an Apple presentation? Never! Apple have done it again! Huzzahs all round!
I'm really not seeing what that proves. The hype machine keeps on turnin'.
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What? The average consumer is wowed by an Apple presentation? Never! Apple have done it again! Huzzahs all round!
I'm really not seeing what that proves. The hype machine keeps on turnin'.
It just goes to show that people want features, improvements, speed, and ease of use. They could care less how much ram is in it. Every time there is an announcement the tech world always bitches about it. It doesn't matter what the product is. But the consumer will decide the success not bloggers or message boards. Just the fact that my wife actually cared enough to say that is a big deal because usually she doesn't give a shit about these kinds of things. I have a feeling they are going to sell an insane amount of these. Sprint, ATT and Verizon and it's GSM and CDMA in one phone.. World wide success.
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Disregard this
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What? The average consumer is wowed by an Apple presentation? Never! Apple have done it again! Huzzahs all round!
I'm really not seeing what that proves. The hype machine keeps on turnin'.
It just goes to show that people want features, improvements, speed, and ease of use. They could care less how much ram is in it. Every time there is an announcement the tech world always bitches about it. It doesn't matter what the product or company is. But the consumer will decide the success not bloggers or message boards.
To me it goes to show that the average person is easily impressed by what looks neat, regardless of whether they'll ever use the features. I don't watch a presentation and then impulsively decide I want something without researching it further or having any need for things in the first place.
And your wife wanting an Apple product isn't that meaningful to me considering who she lives with. :lol
(I don't mean that as a dig, I just mean she's not exactly free from bias in your household)
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Find My Friends scares the hell out of me. Like, really hard.
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I'm definitely going to have to do some research on the latest Android phones, but the new iPhone looks very tempting.
The Galaxy S II is rather sexy. My mum has one (rather upsettingly she now has the coolest phone in the house) and it's gorgeous.
https://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/iphone-4s-vs-the-smartphone-elite-galaxy-s-ii-bionic-and-tita/
Now that we know how the iPhone 4S stacks up against the iPhone 4, let's take a look at how Apple's latest smartphone compares to its mightiest competitors on the other major platforms -- Android and Windows Phone. In Google's camp we chose the superlative Samsung Galaxy S II models (focusing on the announced US variants) along with the Motorola Droid Bionic for its qHD and LTE chops. We then picked the upcoming HTC Titan to bat for Microsoft's team. RIM's not included here since it's still stuck in the junior leagues. We left out the intriguing Nokia N9 because it's a niche player. Check out the fancy table after the break -- the results are pretty clear cut!
(https://i.imgur.com/w8CzT.png)
Can't wait to upgrade my Galaxy S to II S
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How well does that phone work? That's all that should really matter.
And ironically, this is something that is basically an afterthought in today's world of cell phones :lol
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How well does that phone work? That's all that should really matter.
And ironically, this is something that is basically an afterthought in today's world of cell phones :lol
It's neither ironic nor a trivial issue. Why should people not find something they buy appealing in look? You[ll be looking at it an awful lot more than you use most of its features and power. The need for the newest or or best technology is silly in it's own right. Most of us don't need it and wouldn't miss many features if we had never heard of them before. If you don't like the way a phone looks it doesn't have anything so essential you can't get it in a different one.
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After watching the keynote for the 4s people are really downplaying the new features and AI technology. It's incredible. IF they changed the look a little bit and called it the iphone 5 people would be flipping out.
I highly suggest checking out the keynote if you really want to be informed. Just skip past the first 40 minutes.
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Galaxy S II: Still reigning.
A la hora de la verdad, specs are not everything. Galaxy may have a bigger screen but it does not touch the Retina Display. A5, for example, is designed specifically for the iPhone 4S so it really doesn't matter if it has a RAM of 512mb vs. the 1 GB Galaxy has, etc.
These kind of things must be taken into consideration as well.
True and we don't know how much ram is actually in it and we don't know the speed and it really shouldn't matter as long as it works well.
I'm sure you would be singing a different tune if it was the iphone that had more ram and the android with less.
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Galaxy S II: Still reigning.
A la hora de la verdad, specs are not everything. Galaxy may have a bigger screen but it does not touch the Retina Display. A5, for example, is designed specifically for the iPhone 4S so it really doesn't matter if it has a RAM of 512mb vs. the 1 GB Galaxy has, etc.
These kind of things must be taken into consideration as well.
True and we don't know how much ram is actually in it and we don't know the speed and it really shouldn't matter as long as it works well.
I'm sure you would be singing a different tune if it was the iphone that had more ram and the android with less.
No, I could really care less. From the keynote it's super fast is improved over the iphone 4 which i think works well.
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No, I could really care less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
IN any case, the SIRI stuff looks pretty awesome, assuming it works properly (a big IF currently). Otherwise it seems to be apples usual method of spit and polish.
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I checked out that SIRI thing, and I have to say it sounds completely pointless to me. It would be cool if I knew it would always work perfectly, but as I wouldn't trust it, I would just keep checking that it did it right which would defeat the point.
I've never used voice commands on phones. It's not like the things that SIRI does are complex or time consuming to just do ourselves. :lol
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This is the future of technology. This just happens to be the first of its kind put into a phone. It's not phrases that you have to remember to say but it actually understands what you mean when you speak and understands a conversation in context. The future is now with this technology. Imagine being able to say to your tv.. Turn on and switch to Monday night football, etc. this is a really big deal.
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Yeah it does take me hours to turn my TV on and find the channel I want. :P
Like I said, it's a pretty cool idea, but I'm sceptical about how well it will actually work.
Plus, I find the whole idea of it a little depressing. That people are really so lazy and incompetent these days that they need AI to do everything for them. I feel like we're heading towards the future civilisation seen in Wall-E.
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Check out the Ricky Gervais show episode where Karl Pilkington explains why using a GPS is "Lazy."
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I love my Samsung Galaxy S2 :heart
that also has voice controlling software so I'm really not sure what's so "revolutionary" about Siri. I guess it's probably easier to use/nicer UI but meh, for me anyway, the SGS2 is at the top. Apple are just playing catch up at the moment.
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RAM != processing power
Memory IS RAM!
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Memory IS RAM!
:neverusethis:
one of the best IT Crowd moments :rollin
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DID SOMEBODY SAY "IT Crowd"?!?!?!
"But it's an iPhone, Jen. I might be able to get an iPhone without giving any money to Apple. I'll be living the dream."
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Check out the Ricky Gervais show episode where Karl Pilkington explains why using a GPS is "Lazy."
That's not the same thing at all. GPS means you don't have to look things up in advance or print out maps, and best of all actually tells you where you are and what direction you're going in, which is entirely unique.
Whereas SIRI will simply save some button presses.
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Much like touch/motion controls, I don't see the point of voice commands for most everyday applications.
DID SOMEBODY SAY "IT Crowd"?!?!?!
"But it's an iPhone, Jen. I might be able to get an iPhone without giving any money to Apple. I'll be living the dream."
:lol
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Much like touch/motion controls, I don't see the point of voice commands for most everyday applications.
DID SOMEBODY SAY "IT Crowd"?!?!?!
"But it's an iPhone, Jen. I might be able to get an iPhone without giving any money to Apple. I'll be living the dream."
:lol
I haven't been following TOO closely on this whole iPhone 4S cheese...is it really worth it to upgrade from my iPhone 4 to this new jazz? Because if not, I would much rather use that money to feed myself and my dog!
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I welcome any advancement in technology. It's not lazy it's innovative and advances the human race. All new technology does.
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Check out the Ricky Gervais show episode where Karl Pilkington explains why using a GPS is "Lazy."
That's not the same thing at all. GPS means you don't have to look things up in advance or print out maps, and best of all actually tells you where you are and what direction you're going in, which is entirely unique.
Whereas SIRI will simply save some button presses.
Which it still make it more productive. Also, we can't be that limited with what this technology will do: "Siri, take this note" and then you blab the many ideas you have every day. Sure, people also do that with recorders, and somewhat with new phones, but I can see how this could be more convenient.
It's in BETA, though, which is cool. Imagine what will happen when Siri is integrated with more software. Not only Google maps, but Waze or other apps. I see a lot of potential.
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I welcome any advancement in technology. It's not lazy it's innovative and advances the human race. All new technology does.
Is it an advancement? Sure. Is it innovative? Not at all. Voice control has existed as an idea for almost as long as computers have, the only hurdle has been technological.
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Steve Jobs is dead.
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I completely forgot he had cancer. Wow...
Apple (AAPL) has announced that former CEO Steve Jobs has died.
Word of Jobs' death came several months into a medical leave that began in mid-January, his third absence since 2004 when he announced to Apple employees that he'd undergone a successful surgery for a rare, treatable form of pancreatic cancer. In January 2009, Jobs took a six-month break during which he underwent a liver transplant. Then early this year, he left the helm of the company once again, this time for an open-ended period, raising speculation about his continuing struggle with cancer.
Jobs did make occasional appearances in recent years, including the unveiling of the iPad touch-screen tablet in early 2010, and this past summer he showed up at a Cupertino City Council meeting to present his plans for a new Apple campus.
Then, on Aug. 24, Jobs announced that he would resign his post as CEO, asking that he remain as chairman of the board and be replaced as chief executive by interim CEO Tim Cook.
Cook, who handled day-to-day operations of the company while Jobs was on leave in 2009, had impressed analysts. And during that time Apple released the wildly successful iPhone 3GS, while the iPad was under development.
Even as Apple's stock soared along with a nonstop parade of hits from its product pipeline, a phenomenal business story that saw the company grow into the most valuable tech firm on the planet, worries mounted over Jobs' lingering health problems. And with each new medical leave, concerns mounted that Jobs' days as head of the company he co-founded in 1976 would soon be over. A recent report in Fortune magazine said that Jobs started thinking seriously about stepping down as CEO in late July, according to people close to him, because returning full time to Apple was increasingly doubtful.
"These people say that Jobs suffers ups and downs," the report said. "Some days he is able to hold meetings and weigh in on decisions. Some days he remains housebound and cancels appointments. While he could have chosen the status quo -- remaining CEO, with Cook leading day-to-day operations -- Jobs decided to take the next step in the transition."
In public sightings and tabloid photos, Jobs looked increasingly frail and gaunt, a condition complicated by the company's own obsession with secrecy around its leader. It was a troubling image, especially compared with the sort of youthful exuberance that Jobs had exuded for so many years. With the CEO's boyish all-in-one personality of product guru, gung-ho showman and salesman extraordinaire, it was often hard to tell where the line between the man and his shimmering creations really lay.
Yet through it all, analysts as well as longtime colleagues insisted that Jobs had assembled a brilliant management team and that Apple, at least for the next three to five years, would remain on solid footing.
"The Apple culture is bigger than any one individual," Jobs' longtime friend and valley marketing pioneer Regis McKenna said recently. "There's a DNA in Apple that Steve helped nurture and it will carry on in the enthusiasm of the people he's put in place there.
"It was an enthusiasm that Steve always had," McKenna said. "He'd get really lost in a new product and he'd pause and say, 'Oh, that's so cool.' Even in the dark days, he once said to me 'I love what I'm doing and I want to keep doing it.'"
https://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19048810
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I welcome any advancement in technology. It's not lazy it's innovative and advances the human race. All new technology does.
Is it an advancement? Sure. Is it innovative? Not at all. Voice control has existed as an idea for almost as long as computers have, the only hurdle has been technological.
The ai in it is innovative. Very.
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Just saw this on Tumblr. Thought it was fake. Came here to check. Holy shit.
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Just saw this on Tumblr. Thought it was fake. Came here to check. Holy shit.
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RIP Steve :(
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Wow I really wasn't expecting it to happen that fast, would have given him at least another six months.
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Rip Steve. No one can ever replace you to me. Sad that I never got work for him but I hope he died a happy man. You will be missed greatly. :(
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https://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
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RIP
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https://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
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What a sad day for all of us who loved this mans creativity and invention. Steve Jobs has passed away. https://ow.ly/6OMWC
That's from Jordan rudess on twitter
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RIP Steve. :(
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Holy shit, I thought my friend was joking :C
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RIP Steve
Typing from my MBP.
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Just saw this on Tumblr. Thought it was fake. Came here to check. Holy shit.
DTF. More reliable than the AP since 2009.
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inb4 tjanuranus eulogy
I didn't hate the guy, but i hated his company.
Rest in peace man
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Just saw this on Tumblr. Thought it was fake. Came here to check. Holy shit.
Really, fake? He has been rail thin since his second leave. And the tabloid photos since his third leave made him appear as looking extremely sick. I always thought it was a matter of time he stepped down and passed since coming back (and not gaining weight) after his second leave.
More shocking I think that how quickly he passed since he stepped down.
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Rest in peace... Too young age for anyone to die in my opinion.
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So what about the other thread?
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So what about the other thread?
Merge it?
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Say what you like about apple, the guy helped shape the personal computer, every step of the way. Rest in peace Steve.
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I can't imagine what it might've been like to step down from Apple knowing how little time he had left. It's like stepping away from one of his biggest distractions. I wonder what it's like...knowing that you are on your way out. How do you even spend those last few weeks?
And I was under the impression that this thread is about the person, and the other thread is more about the company.
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Say what you like about apple, the guy helped shape the personal computer, every step of the way. Rest in peace Steve.
My thoughts exactly. I will remember my Apple II with fondness. RIP
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I was in a really good mood today, and then I saw this. :'( I think I might get a Mac Book Pro in his honor.
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That sucks to hear.
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I feel pretty down right now. :'(
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Rest in peace.
We'll see how apple does without him now.
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And I was under the impression that this thread is about the person, and the other thread is more about the company.
I agree. We can have a thread about Pink Floyd and a thread about Roger Waters, or MSoft and Gates... they are known for the band or company, but are separate people from their entities.
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sad faic
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He's in iCloud now.
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inb4 tjanuranus eulogy
I didn't hate the guy, but i hated his company.
Rest in peace man
All of this. RIP.
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EDIT: I was beaten to the iCloud joke.
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iDead.
RIP Mr. Jobs.
But, lol at this status from a girl who apparently hadn't found out...this was on my news feed:
Well....guess who is NOT getting the new IPhone?
Just getting my button fixed. I don't need that new thing.
Stupid apple >.<
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Certainly some sad news. Rest in peace Steve.
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This has struck me more than I thought it was going to. The man did more for humanity than we can imagine.
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Tried to dial 911 but he still had AT&T. R.I.P.
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Cancer takes a lot of people too early. Steve Jobs is no exception. You did a lot of good in your time here.
RIP
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Wow idead? Really?
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Man, this sucks. If it happened yesterday, I wonder if Apple would have still had their conference.
I'm flipping through news stations and I can't believe some of the montage videos that they got together this fast. I'm convinced that they must have had these videos already made waiting for this day.
Either way.... RIP Steve Jobs
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Tried to dial 911 but he still had AT&T. R.I.P.
Not cool.
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I'm not a fan of most apple products, but Steve Jobs was a very important figure in both the tech world and business in general (not to mention Pixar!). It will be a very interesting time watching what happens to Apple now. RIP. lolmacs
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Not too keen on Apple but still...
Godspeed, Steve.
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Anyone know what his status was yesterday health wise?
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I have quite a few things I'd like to write but I will wait until I get home. Need to let this all sync in.
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What is it with people desperately trying to crack jokes on the expense of a man immediately after his death and not being funny while doing so? Sad stuff.
R.I.P. Steve Jobs. A visionary in his department. Cancer shouldn't take anyone at that age...
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I have quite a few things I'd like to write but I will wait until I get home. Need to let this all sync in.
Not sure if clever, or just accident.
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What is it with people desperately trying to crack jokes on the expense of a man immediately after his death and not being funny while doing so? Sad stuff.
R.I.P. Steve Jobs. A visionary in his department. Cancer shouldn't take anyone at that age...
If you are referencing TJ's sync comment, you can't get mad at that. That not a crack at Jobs, nor is it negative toward him in any way. Cut him some slack, it's TJ.
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What a visionary. What loss.
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What is it with people desperately trying to crack jokes on the expense of a man immediately after his death and not being funny while doing so? Sad stuff.
R.I.P. Steve Jobs. A visionary in his department. Cancer shouldn't take anyone at that age...
If you are referencing TJ's sync comment, you can't get mad at that. That not a crack at Jobs, nor is it negative toward him in any way. Cut him some slack, it's TJ.
I know he wasn't trying to be sarcastic or anything and I am not trying to get on anyone's case.
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The world has lost something valuable today. RIP.
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Not a big fan of Apple, never got an iPhone or a Mac, but I can respect his contributions to modern technology but especially the early days of personal computers and the NeXTSTEP platform.
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Wow idead? Really?
I think it was more inappropriate the comment that clearly was baiting you for an emotional response.
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What? I am trying to let the news sync in. It's not a joke but an expression. This may seem odd but it's making me think about my own and my family's mortality and I'm just thinking.
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oops. double post.
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Love my iMacs..Love my iPod.
RIP Steve
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What? I am trying to let the news sync in. It's not a joke but an expression. This may seem odd but it's making me think about my own and my family's mortality and I'm just thinking.
They were pointing out the word "sync" is in reference to two electronic devices transferring information. The phrase you're referring to is "sink in".
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Oh I see now. Habit of writing it that way. Wasn't trying to joke.
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What? I am trying to let the news sync in. It's not a joke but an expression. This may seem odd but it's making me think about my own and my family's mortality and I'm just thinking.
I didn't mean you in the first place, sorry if that came out wrong. As emindead pointed out, it's the "iDead."-comment I was referring to.
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Not a fan of the Apple cult, but the guy certainly was a visionary. He and Wozniak* certainly did a great deal to change the world we live in.
*spellcheck recognizes Wozniak--far out
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The world lost a great innovator and businessman today. RIP
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Tried to dial 911 but he still had AT&T. R.I.P.
Not cool.
My humor isn't cool.
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Man, this sucks. If it happened yesterday, I wonder if Apple would have still had their conference.
I'm flipping through news stations and I can't believe some of the montage videos that they got together this fast. I'm convinced that they must have had these videos already made waiting for this day.
Either way.... RIP Steve Jobs
News organizations tend to have these things ready to go long in advance, often even for people that show no sign of being near the end.
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Oh I see now. Habit of writing it that way. Wasn't trying to joke.
Awww. I got a chuckle out of it. I figured coming from you, you planned that.
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Just heard. So sad :( RIP, Steve Jobs!
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"I guess an Apple a day doesn't keep the doctor away..."
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Just saw this on Tumblr. Thought it was fake. Came here to check. Holy shit.
My friend sent me a text saying "turn on a news station". I came here before turning on a TV.
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Though I am not a an Apple fan, their products have done their fair share of good in my day-to-day life, as they have in many's, and Steve Jobs clearly played one of the greatest roles in the history of the personal computer, shaping what we use to compute and how we do it today.
Though Jobs is no longer, I think it's safe to bet that his company and contributions will be here to stay for quite some time.
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Shit man, pancreatic cancer? I'm sorry to say this, but Pancreatic cancer is one, if not the most lethal tumor someone can have. Life expectancy in 5 years is almost 0%, so the fact that he survived more than 5 years is almost admirable.
I might not be the biggest Apple fan (At all), but the dude was an excellent company leader, administrator, businessman and CEO. Admired or despised, he will be remembered as an Icon, and as an extremely important person in technology history. May he Rest in Peace.
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The man was a revolutionary. May he rest in peace.
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https://www.thegatesnotes.com/Personal/Steve-Jobs
I’m truly saddened to learn of Steve Jobs’ death. Melinda and I extend our sincere condolences to his family and friends, and to everyone Steve has touched through his work.
Steve and I first met nearly 30 years ago, and have been colleagues, competitors and friends over the course of more than half our lives.
The world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact Steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come.
For those of us lucky enough to get to work with him, it’s been an insanely great honor. I will miss Steve immensely.
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Not a fan of the Apple cult, but the guy certainly was a visionary. He and Wozniak* certainly did a great deal to change the world we live in.
Well said
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This really sucks.
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I wonder what it feels like to have such a profound effect on a culture. Rest in peace.
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I wonder what it feels like to have such a profound effect on a culture.
Feels good man.
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RIP Steve Jobs. One of my greatest inspirations. I am actually pretty sad even though I never met him personally.
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iRonic.
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iRonic.
*snip*
This is just... there are no words.
Rest in peace, Mr Jobs.
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I'm not an Apple maniac but I've had an 80gb classic iPod for the last 5 years that I sincerely can't see myself living without.
R.I.P Mr. Jobs.
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Well before I post my thoughts I will share some of the sentiment I see on my twitter feed. Some great stuff on here!
Jordan Rudess
What a sad day for all of us who loved this mans creativity and invention. Steve Jobs has passed away.
Steve Duda (Works with NIN and Deadmau5)
RIP Steve Jobs.. You undeniably changed the world.
Damon Lindelof
Steve Jobs. On behalf of every dreamer sitting in his or her garage who is crazy enough to try to change the world, you will be missed.
Jeff Goldsmith (Editor of Creative Screenwriting magazine)
Very sad about Steve Jobs, I have never in my life bought a PC, I was supportive of all he did. He'll be greatly missed. #fb
Peter Sceretta (Owner Slashfilm.com)
Steve Jobs has changed the world. He is a visionary who will be forever remembered.
Patton Oswalt
RIP Steve Jobs. Closest thing we had to Tony Stark.
Joe Rogan
Steve Jobs has died and left behind the greatest computer company the world has ever known. A vision reached, a dream fulfilled
Kevin Smith
Steve Jobs! Thanks for never settling for the way things were during a life you spent showing us how things could be. O Captain! My captain!
Our parents had JFK, we had Steve Jobs. Edison gave us electricity, Jobs gave us the Jetsons in real life. We lost an icon today. Mourn him.
Howard Stern
Steve Jobs was a true original. So Sad. A tremendous loss.
Here is a great quote from the Man himself..
""Remembering that you're going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. Follow your heart."
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Nice montage, tj. ;)
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Nice montage, tj. ;)
thanks. Forgot one of the most important ones for me!
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Wow. I did realise he was that ill. Jeez.
RIP
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Very sad - I have and frequently use a MacBook, an iMac and an iPhone 3GS and plan to upgrade to iPhone 4S. I love every one of those products.
RIP Steve Jobs. May the 4S be with you.
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Much like touch/motion controls, I don't see the point of voice commands for most everyday applications.
I agree. Voice control has been around forever, and it's never caught on because it's mostly unnecessary and impractical. If you're doing something simple, chances are it's quicker to just do it by pressing a button. If it's something complex, chances are that it's not something you should be using and relying on voice commands for.
And it's not really practical when you're in public, or it's night and people are sleeping, or if you're just generally trying to be considerate in a lot of places.
It's another case of Apple sticking an existing technology in a product, making it shinier, dumbing down technology another notch, and Apple fans pretending it's revolutionary and the future of the world.
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I own a Macbook Pro, an iPod Classic, and an iPhone 4, and I absolutely love all three products and use them every day. So I feel like I should be really sad right now, but...I'm not. It's just such a damn shame that someone as brilliant as he was had to die so soon. If he had lived a longer life, who knows what else he could have accomplished? But, what he did accomplish while alive changed the world. Rest in peace.
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Just like tablets were around forever but they had no purpose so no one used them. Heard that one before.
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and wait.. excuse me? DUMB IT DOWN? there is no AI like this in a mobile device anywhere. It's the opposite of dumbed down. I get really fucking sick of the ignorant apple hate posts on here. It's the same bullshit arguments that end up being wrong time and time again.
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iRonic.
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They're still around? Ugh
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I heard you can't right click on a Mac :neverusethis:
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I heard you can't right click on a Mac :neverusethis:
:hefdaddy
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You don't need to jump on everyone with double and triple posts whenever you disagree with something slightly less than praise and devotion for Apple. Makes it really hard to reason with you. There is no need to get so angry and confrontational whenever someone posts a reasonable criticism. Even in one post you're accusing my of ignorant Apple hate and bullshit arguments when I have posted a reasonable argument that wasn't even specific to Apple. Was that much swearing really necessary just because I disagree with something Apple did? You do this constantly.
And it is the exact definition of dumbed down. It requires less and less knowledge from the user, and becomes more imprecise in what it is doing due to the extra level of abstraction between the user and the interface. Complexity of the technology has nothing to do with whether or not it is dumbed down. Dumbing down is all about the user interaction and interface. You really should know that.
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....That cunt actually has Twitter followers? Really? :lol
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I've never own any Apple product, and I have always looked upon Apple as sort of an "brainwasher"..
But, I will shure as hell miss Steve Jobs, and remember all the important things he has done for technology.
Hmmm.... It's a bit ironic when I think about it.. I hate Apple, but I love Jobs for everything he has made, and done for technology.. :-\ ???
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I've never own any Apple product, and I have always looked upon Apple as sort of an "brainwasher"..
But, I will shure as hell miss Steve Jobs, and remember all the important things he has done for technology.
Hmmm.... It's a bit ironic when I think about it.. I hate Apple, but I love Jobs for everything he has made, and done for technology.. :-\ ???
maybe the brainwashing goes both ways then?
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Completely gutted by this news today. As a musician and an iTard (proud to say), Apple really made a difference in my life over the years. My first iPod was the greatest piece of tech that ever happened to me. Garageband was a joy the first time I used it and moved away from my old ways. One of a kind genius in the industry. When Steve talked about Apple being at the intersection of liberal arts and technology I really thought about all the ways their technology has changed my everyday life. I feel truly blessed to have been alive in his era to appreciate what a difference he made and will make beyond his years. A relentless passion. Peace and prayers for Steve and his family.
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“Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life,”
“Don’t be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results
of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions
drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to
follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you
truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.”
"Remembering that I’ll be dead soon is the most important tool I’ve ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart."
These quotes from Steve's 2005 Stanford University commencement speech, posted all over the net, really hit home today. Great wisdom.
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I've never own any Apple product, and I have always looked upon Apple as sort of an "brainwasher"..
But, I will shure as hell miss Steve Jobs, and remember all the important things he has done for technology.
Hmmm.... It's a bit ironic when I think about it.. I hate Apple, but I love Jobs for everything he has made, and done for technology.. :-\ ???
maybe the brainwashing goes both ways then?
Hmm... frightening thought.. Proves that Jobs was (still is?) a genius then? :-\
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Blob, stop making sense.
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I can't help but wonder what was going in Tim Cook's head when he was giving the keynote. Surely he knew how close to death Jobs was.
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I've never owned anything by Apple so I'm very neutral about all that but the man had an impact on technology.
R.I.P
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A very talented man taken way too soon :'(
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I'm really surprised by how soon after his retirement this was, really. I hope he went off peacefully.
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I'm mean this in most most non disrespectful way...
I bet Apple with make out good from this. I know everyone knows about apple and their products, but I don't think a lot of people know anything more than what they here by word of mouth. Apple, over the last 18 hours, has got nothing but free non stop commercials. My mom certainly has a different images of Apple now. She still knows jack shit about the products, but the first thing she said when I talked to her this morning was "I want an iPad".
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I sorta know what you mean. Lots of negative things can be legitimately said about Steve Jobs and Apple. His death didn't make those things go away, but it does shift the perspective of things a lot. The history of Steve Jobs is basically done at this point. While we haven't seen the effects of everything he's done in the long term, he's done everything he was ever going to. So when you look at his actions, do you care about the bad things he did, or the good things? People are, probably wisely, choosing the good things.
In a practical sense, a lot of what fed the perception of Apple as a cult just went away.
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(https://i.imgur.com/9ZwJt.jpg)
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That was strangely poignant.
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That's kinda what I was thinking.
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Gosh...seriously.
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I might not be the biggest Apple fan (At all), but the dude was an excellent company leader, administrator, businessman and CEO. Admired or despised, he will be remembered as an Icon, and as an extremely important person in technology history. May he Rest in Peace.
Certainly.
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Statements and Reactions
Steve Jobs' family has issued a statement:
Steve died peacefully today surrounded by his family.
In his public life, Steve was known as a visionary; in his private life, he cherished his family. We are thankful to the many people who have shared their wishes and prayers during the last year of Steve's illness; a website will be provided for those who wish to offer tributes and memories.
We are grateful for the support and kindness of those who share our feelings for Steve. We know many of you will mourn with us, and we ask that you respect our privacy during our time of grief.
Tim Cook
Apple has lost a visionary and creative genius, and the world has lost an amazing human being. Those of us who have been fortunate enough to know and work with Steve have lost a dear friend and an inspiring mentor. Steve leaves behind a company that only he could have built, and his spirit will forever be the foundation of Apple.
We are planning a celebration of Steve’s extraordinary life for Apple employees that will take place soon. If you would like to share your thoughts, memories and condolences in the interim, you can simply email rememberingsteve@apple.com.
No words can adequately express our sadness at Steve’s death or our gratitude for the opportunity to work with him. We will honor his memory by dedicating ourselves to continuing the work he loved so much.
Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife Laurene and his children during this difficult time.
President Barack Obama
Michelle and I are saddened to learn of the passing of Steve Jobs. Steve was among the greatest of American innovators - brave enough to think differently, bold enough to believe he could change the world, and talented enough to do it.
By building one of the planet’s most successful companies from his garage, he exemplified the spirit of American ingenuity. By making computers personal and putting the internet in our pockets, he made the information revolution not only accessible, but intuitive and fun. And by turning his talents to storytelling, he has brought joy to millions of children and grownups alike. Steve was fond of saying that he lived every day like it was his last. Because he did, he transformed our lives, redefined entire industries, and achieved one of the rarest feats in human history: he changed the way each of us sees the world.
The world has lost a visionary. And there may be no greater tribute to Steve’s success than the fact that much of the world learned of his passing on a device he invented. Michelle and I send our thoughts and prayers to Steve’s wife Laurene, his family, and all those who loved him.
Microsoft Cofounder Bill Gates
I’m truly saddened to learn of Steve Jobs’ death. Melinda and I extend our sincere condolences to his family and friends, and to everyone Steve has touched through his work.
Steve and I first met nearly 30 years ago, and have been colleagues, competitors and friends over the course of more than half our lives.
The world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact Steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come.
For those of us lucky enough to get to work with him, it’s been an insanely great honor. I will miss Steve immensely.
Warren Buffett
He was one of the most remarkable business managers and innovators in american business history.
Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg
Steve, thank you for being a mentor and a friend. Thanks for showing that what you build can change the world. I will miss you.
Disney President Bob Iger
Steve Jobs was a great friend as well as a trusted advisor. His legacy will extend far beyond the products he created or the businesses he built. It will be the millions of people he inspired, the lives he changed, and the culture he defined. Steve was such an "original," with a thoroughly creative, imaginative mind that defined an era. Despite all he accomplished, it feels like he was just getting started. With his passing the world has lost a rare original, Disney has lost a member of our family, and I have lost a great friend. Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife Laurene and his children during this difficult time.
Google Chairman Eric Schmidt
Steve Jobs is the most successful CEO in the U.S. of the last 25 years. He uniquely combined an artists touch and an engineers vision to build an extraordinary company... one of the greatest American leaders in history.
California Governor Edmund Brown
Steve Jobs was a great California innovator who demonstrated what a totally independent and creative mind can accomplish. Few people have made such a powerful and elegant imprint on our lives. Anne and I wish to express our deepest sympathy to Steve's wife, Laurene, and their entire family.
Dell Founder Michael Dell
Today the world lost a visionary leader, the technology industry lost an iconic legend and I lost a friend and fellow founder. The legacy of Steve Jobs will be remembered for generations to come. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and to the Apple team.
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Steve lived the California Dream every day of his life and he changed the world and inspired all of us.
Former Yahoo and Autodesk CEO Carol Bartz
It’s the ultimate sadness. First of all, it’s a young person who was revered, sometimes feared, but always revered. In a way, it’s kind of prophetic; everyone was hoping he could be on stage yesterday. He was a very special person, and he didn’t get to where he was by having people like him all the time. He got to where he was because he had a vision and a purpose. It’s easy to try and please everyone, but he kept to his principles.
Google Cofounder Larry Page
I am very, very sad to hear the news about Steve. He was a great man with incredible achievements and amazing brilliance. He always seemed to be able to say in very few words what you actually should have been thinking before you thought it. His focus on the user experience above all else has always been an inspiration to me. He was very kind to reach out to me as I became CEO of Google and spend time offering his advice and knowledge even though he was not at all well. My thoughts and Google’s are with his family and the whole Apple family
NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg
Tonight, America lost a genius who will be remembered with Edison and Einstein, and whose ideas will shape the world for generations to come. Again and again over the last four decades, Steve Jobs saw the future and brought it to life long before most people could even see the horizon. And Steve's passionate belief in the power of technology to transform the way we live brought us more than smart phones and iPads: it brought knowledge and power that is reshaping the face of civilization. In New York City's government, everyone from street construction inspectors to NYPD detectives have harnessed Apple's products to do their jobs more efficiently and intuitively. Tonight our City – a city that has always had such respect and admiration for creative genius – joins with people around the planet in remembering a great man and keeping Laurene and the rest of the Jobs family in our thoughts and prayers.
New York Times Publisher Arthur Sulzberger, Jr.
Steve Jobs was a visionary and a wonderful friend of The New York Times. He pushed the boundaries of how all providers of news and information interact with our users. I am among the many who deeply regret his passing.
AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson
We are saddened by the passing of Steve Jobs. Steve was an iconic inventor, visionary, and entrepreneur, and we had the privilege to know him as partner and friend. All of us at AT&T offer our thoughts and prayers to Steve’s wife, family, and his Apple family.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
Steve Jobs was a visionary who changed the way we live, an innovator whose products brought joy to millions, a risktaker who wasn’t afraid to challenge the status quo, and an entrepreneur who led one of the most creative companies of our time.
His sage advice was respected by policymakers on both sides of the aisle. His courageous fight against cancer brought strength to many. I hope it is a comfort to those who loved him, especially his family, that so many grieve his loss and are praying for them at this sad time.
News Corp. CEO Rupert Murdoch
Today, we lost one of the most influential thinkers, creators and entrepreneurs of all time. Steve Jobs was simply the greatest CEO of his generation. While I am deeply saddened by his passing, I’m reminded of the stunning impact he had in revolutionizing the way people consume media and entertainment. My heart goes out to his family and to everyone who had the opportunity to work beside him in bringing his many visions to life.
Google Cofounder Sergey Brin
From the earliest days of Google, whenever Larry and I sought inspiration for vision and leadership, we needed to look no farther than Cupertino. Steve, your passion for excellence is felt by anyone who has ever touched an Apple product (including the macbook I am writing this on right now). And I have witnessed it in person the few times we have met.
On behalf of all of us at Google and more broadly in technology, you will be missed very much. My condolences to family, friends, and colleagues at Apple.
Softbank CEO Masayoshi Son
I am deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Steve Jobs. Steve was truly a genius of our time, a man with a rare ability to fuse art and technology. In centuries from now, he will be remembered alongside Leonardo da Vinci. His achievements will continue to shine forever.
Ed Catmull, Steve Jobs, John Lasseter
John Lasseter, Pixar and Ed Catmull, Disney
Steve Jobs was an extraordinary visionary, our very dear friend and the guiding light of the Pixar family. He saw the potential of what Pixar could be before the rest of us, and beyond what anyone ever imagined. Steve took a chance on us and believed in our crazy dream of making computer animated films; the one thing he always said was to simply 'make it great.' He is why Pixar turned out the way we did and his strength, integrity and love of life has made us all better people. He will forever be a part of Pixar’s DNA. Our hearts go out to his wife Laurene and their children during this incredibly difficult time.
George Lucas
The magic of Steve was that while others simply accepted the status quo, he saw the true potential in everything he touched and never compromised on that vision. He leaves behind an incredible family and a legacy that will continue to speak to people for years to come.
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(https://i.imgur.com/9ZwJt.jpg)
That's probably the most emotional thing I've seen since he's passed.
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Here's another one (Randall posted on a Thursday!):
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/eternal_flame.gif)
"There's always the hope that if you sit and watch for long enough, the beachball will vanish and the thing it interrupted will return."
https://xkcd.com/961/
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I just watched the unveiling of the iPhone in 2007 on Youtube. not sure why, I just did.
I don't think I'd really appreciated how much that product completely changed not just the phone market, but the business/communication market as well. And what a fantastic presentation by him as well.
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I just watched the unveiling of the iPhone in 2007 on Youtube. not sure why, I just did.
I don't think I'd really appreciated how much that product completely changed not just the phone market, but the business/communication market as well. And what a fantastic presentation by him as well.
Thats such a good presentation. We expect all phones to be connected to the net, I often for get how little time has gone by since the iphone redefined that. He described it as an ipod, a phone, and an internet communication device. The device really redfined what could be done in your hand. I really enjoy the original ipod unveil. "It can hold A THOUSAND songs"
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I just watched the Stanford address he did in 2005 and I couldn't stop crying. Over the years I have learned that it is possible to do things your way and yours alone and still get away with it. What a fine example Steve Jobs was.
I've never owned an Apple computer and most likely never will. The only product of that company I have had is the iPod (and very soon the iPhone). From Pixar, on the other hand, I have directly benefited immensely. From Apple all of us have indirectly benefited immensely (this point applies to everyone in the computer spectrum - insert the CEO of your choice, it still conveys the point).
Generations have had their great thinkers, their great innovators. Humankind has received more than we can thank from Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas; Leonardo da Vinci, Michael Angelo; William Shakespeare, Miguel de Cervantes; Johann Sebastian Bach, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart; Victor Hugo, Fyodor Dostoyevsky; Nikola Tesla, Thomas Alva Edison; Marie Curie, Albert Einstein; William Henry Gates III, Steven Paul Jobs.
These few examples of heroes have made the world a better place... seeing how I had the opportunity to live and benefit directly and indirectly from two contemporary geniuses is breathtaking and an honour. Reading the news that one person in the previous list I made died, considering the great impact he had to my life and millions of others, made me cry.
Thank you and well done, Steve Jobs, well done.
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Where the hell is Tim Berners-Lee in that list emin?
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www.HowManyUnsungGeniusWereBornIn1955-1956?.com/damn!.html
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So iOS 5 GM is available for everyone even if they don't have a developer account, TJ do you think its worth it?
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So iOS 5 GM is available for everyone even if they don't have a developer account, TJ do you think its worth it?
What do you mean? It's FREE!
But it's a SIGNIFICANT improvement over iOS4.
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So if I plug my iPhone into iTunes right now, I can upgrade to iOS5 for free?
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So if I plug my iPhone into iTunes right now, I can upgrade to iOS5 for free?
It's not available to the public until the 12th. Then it will be free the way you described. Right now you can get it thought other sources on the net free.
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Eh, ok. I can be patient.
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iphone 4s now available for pre order.
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I'm excited about iOS5. It will be a nice preview of the iPhone 4S, which I will be getting when it arrives in Sweden.
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Ok, here's a top comment on a Steve Jobs Youtube video.
"Argentine people woke up sad this morning
I have seen tears in the eyes of my little sister when I told her that the man who invented the iPad has died
Has increased in tears when I told her his story
My mother said: Steve Jobs went and went with him half creativity
My uncle said:
I hated America because of George Bush, and I loved because of Steve Jobs
I say:
Jobs died and his mind still work"
I...uhhh....what?
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:lol
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LOL. These are so funny, yet heart warming.
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10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash. Now we have no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTg00wIijNY
:lol :rollin :lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTg00wIijNY
:lol :rollin :lol
:metal :metal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTg00wIijNY
:lol :rollin :lol
:lol :lol :lol
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"Also, GLaDOS may try to kill you." :lol
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Damn, Colbert. Just... Damn.
https://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/399182/october-06-2011/tribute-to-steve-jobs?xrs=synd_facebook
I didn't even care for Jobs all that much (didn't dislike him either), but the last ten seconds... talk about an emotion inducing delivery.
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Some of you maybe saw this already but I'll post it anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42BjJ7jLgK8&feature=feedu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42BjJ7jLgK8&feature=feedu)
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An article explaining why the iPhone will always have a 3.5" screen: https://www.redmondpie.com/ever-wondered-why-the-iphone-has-a-3.5-inch-screen-this-might-be-an-appropriate-answer/
This Is The Reason Why The iPhone Will Always Have A 3.5-inch Screen
By Oliver Haslam | October 9th, 2011
Here’s a little tidbit that we just discovered, and it’s all about the size of the iPhone’s screen. More specifically, it’s all about why the iPhone’s screen is still 3.5-inches across its diagonal, while most Android, and even Windows Phone 7 (ultimate special super duper series edition 7) handsets are sporting ever increasing screen dimensions.
The revelation comes from Dustin Curtis, a designer who has been spending a little time with a Samsung Galaxy S II Android phone, complete with its huge 4.21-inch screen. Apparently, the reason Apple’s iPhones are smaller is all down to how you use the device with one hand, and more to the point, where your thumb reaches.
(https://i.imgur.com/TX5Pu.png)
"When you first see a phone with a 4-inch or larger screen, it seems like a much better experience. I thought it was a technical decision, and it could be, but since switching to an Android phone — a Samsung Galaxy S II, the “best Android phone you can buy, anywhere” — 15 days ago, I have realized another huge downside of larger screens: when holding the phone with one hand, I can’t reach the other side of the screen with my thumb."
By contrast, Curtis notes that when using an iPhone, he has no trouble reaching across its screen, and can happily tap away on the far side to where his palm lays. This does actually make perfect sense, and gels well with my own personal experience with smartphones.
Over the last few months I’ve been lucky enough to get my hands on a few different handsets to have a play with, and two of those sported considerably larger screens than my iPhone 4. The two smartphones I’m thinking of are the Samsung Nexus S, and the HTC HD7 (Windows Phone 7).
Both screens are pretty expansive – the Nexus S comes with a 4-inch display, while the HD7 is even larger at a whopping 4.3-inches.
In the case of both handsets, I struggled to use their massive screens properly. Simply reaching up to the notification drawer on the Nexus S proved hard work for me, though I must confess, I do have rather small hands considering I’m a 29-year old male. Still, the point still stands.
The HD7, well, that just felt too big in general. The creaky case construction didn’t really help here, either.
But I digress. Did Apple choose to go with a 3.5-inch screen because of ergonomics, instead of following the lead of the competition who clearly believe that big is better?
It’s possible, and if true, don’t expect to see a larger screen coming to the iPhone any time soon.
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Well that's not so much explaining, as just guessing.
I find the iPod/iPhone screen just small enough to reach across entirely with my thumb, and it's a bit of a stretch, so I'd imagine it would be hard on a larger screen (never used any of the devices mentioned).
But that said, I find it's actually really goofy using the thumb for anything but the most basic tasks anyway. Typing like that is a pain, and I always have to use my index finger.
So while it may be a factor, I don't see it as a an important factor to holding back the screen size, although I also can't say it really needs to be any bigger for its purpose either.
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My wife decided to get an Android after waiting for the iPhone 5 all this time. She really doesn't like the look of the iPhone 4.
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I think that the first iPhone that really sold me the idea of how good the overall design is was the iPhone 4. I like its design, its look is really slick, factor that I really consider when making a big purchase (I usually only spent huge amount of money on concerts and trips, but when it comes to gadgets it REALLY has to make me want it. The iPhone 4 was that phone, and I didn't buy it immediately because I had recently acquired the BlackBerry Curve. I have now exceeded the use of that phone and I'm ready to making my first big (phone) purchase).
Talking about sold, the iPhone 4s has broken its own record and as the pre-orders exceed the one million in first 24 hours: https://www.engadget.com/2011/10/10/apple-iphone-4s-pre-orders-exceed-one-million-in-first-24-hours/
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well I've got a Samsung Galaxy S2 and I can quite comfortably reach the top with my thumb. My hands are average size as well so I'm not sure what that guy is on about.
Such a coincidence though - my friends were saying today how big my screen was compared to theres. and I have to say, I absolutely love it :)
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I prefer ppi over screen size, and the iPhone wins at that.
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I've never understood why a person would want a giant phone. It feels funny against your face when you're talking (though admittedly most people don't seem to actually talk on their phones anymore) and it doesn't fit terribly well in your pocket. it's funny that we went through a "smaller is better" phase with cell phones and now that we're onto so-called smart phones, bigger is better.
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You'll notice most of the bigger trend is associated with phones where the entire face is the screen. If you're going to push video capable and game capable devices it makes sense to market options with bigger screens.
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I want the largest screen that can fit in my pocket.
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If you're going to push video capable and game capable devices it makes sense to market options with bigger screens.
This would be true if those devices would have the Retina Display Apple does have; bigger in this case is not better.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/10/ipad-surpasses-iphone-in-u-s-internet-traffic-nabs-97-share-of-tablet-traffic/
iPad Surpasses iPhone in U.S. Internet Traffic, Nabs 97% Share of Tablet Traffic
Monday October 10, 2011 12:08 pm PDT by Eric Slivka
Research firm comScore today announced the results of its latest study of digital media consumption in the United States, perhaps unsurprisingly finding that the iPad has continued to dominate the tablet industry and has even quickly overcome the iPhone's headstart to lead it in total traffic. Among iOS devices, the iPad is now responsible for more U.S. Internet traffic than the iPhone, taking the title by a margin of 46.8% to 42.6%.
Perhaps most notably, the iPad continues to dominate the U.S. tablet industry even as numerous high-profile competitors have introduced (and in some cases already discontinued) their own tablet products to take on the iPad. According to comScore, the iPad accounted for 97.2% of U.S. Internet traffic, as measured by browser-basd page views, from tablet devices over the June-August period.
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Looking at the broader tablet and smartphone market, iOS as a whole represented 43.1% of the installed user base for connected devices in the United States over the study period, with Android placing second at 34.1%. But in looking at traffic from those devices as a gauge for how much they are being used, iOS takes a commanding 58.5% of the market while Android dips to 31.9%.
Apple fans have frequently pointed to the company's strong performance with the iPad and iPod touch as data that should be included when comparing the relative adoption of iOS versus Android. And given that Android has yet to take off in the tablet and non-phone connected device markets, iOS continues to hold a sizable lead in overall platform comparisons despite Android's rapid ascent in the smartphone portion of the market.
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Damn. It's popular; it must be so good.
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The iPad is amazing. I'm on it right now.
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The iPad is amazing. I'm on it right now.
If this were facebook I'd like this comment. I definitely agree with this
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On the day jobs died, my status was "posted from an iPad2" I got 1 like
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If you're going to push video capable and game capable devices it makes sense to market options with bigger screens.
This would be true if those devices would have the Retina Display Apple does have; bigger in this case is not better.
Quality of display never stopped people getting massive SD projection units,
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On the day jobs died, my status was "posted from an iPad2" I got 1 like
But that's because FB is stupid, not the iPad.
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Got a big smile from reading this. Morons on the net were calling the 4s under powered and weak compared to android phones. ROFLCOPTER.
iPhone 4S CPU slower than iPad 2, still faster than all Android phones
October 11, 2011 | Devindra Hardawar1 Comment
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Apple’s upcoming iPhone 4S will be a reminder that CPU clock speed isn’t everything.
Even though the iPhone 4S runs the same dual-core A5 CPU as the iPad 2, Apple has apparently reduced the chip’s speed from 1 gigahertz to around 800MHz, reports Anandtech. But that doesn’t stop the iPhone 4S from blazing past all other phones — many of which have CPUs well over 1GHz — in benchmark tests.
In the SunSpider Javascript benchmark, the iPhone 4S is almost twice as fast as the iPhone 4, achieving a score of 2222ms vs 3921ms (lower is better). It’s only bested by the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9. The iPhone 4S trounces all others in the Rightware BrowserMark test, achieving a score of 89,567, while the Samsung Galaxy S II only hits 55,144. Compared to the iPhone 4, the Geekbench test found that the iPhone 4S is just about twice as fast.
Just as it did with the iPhone 4, which runs a slower A4 processor than the original iPad, Apple likely reduced the CPU’s speed to conserve battery life.
And as Anandtech writes, there are plenty of other benefits:
A lower clock not only means higher yields from the factory, but likely a lower operating voltage as well. Dropping a CPU’s core voltage, yields a greater-than-linear decrease in power consumption, making the marginal loss in clock speed a good choice. At a lower operating frequency than its Android competitors, Apple does have to exploit its strengths in software to avoid any tangible performance penalties. Apple has traditionally done this very well in the past, so I don’t expect the loss of frequency to be a huge deal to the few who do cross-shop iOS and Android.
When it comes to gaming, the iPhone 4S is no slouch either, achieving FPS speeds twice as fast as Samsung’s Galaxy S II.
Overall, while the iPhone 4S may appear to be just a slight upgrade over the iPhone 4, its new A5 chip makes it a different beast entirely.
(https://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/iphone-4s-bench.png?w=600&h=600)
https://venturebeat.com/2011/10/11/iphone-4s-cpu-slower-than-ipad-2-still-faster-than-all-android-phones/
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The Galaxy tab barely edges it out there but your point still stands.
What can you expect though? iOS has tight hardware integration where as Android is built to work on pretty much anything.
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Exactly. That's why I was saying who cares how much ram it has. Its well optimized and can take up less battery.
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I would say Android's main loss in battery (compared to iOS) is down to its full multitasking capabilities.
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I would say Android's main loss in battery (compared to iOS) is down to its full multitasking capabilities.
I find mine constantly downloading/updating/uploading shit all the time... even though I have dissabled all that stuff. The widgets eat battery life. I have to turn all of them off if I want to make it through the school day. I love my DroidX, but the battery life really makes me limit its use. If I'm on campus 12 hours, and only use it to send say 30 text messages and nothing else. I still only have 60% or so by the time I get back to my car. If I use the net for a few things here and there, that number drops to 30% or lower by the end of the day. It can be 100% before I go to bed. When my alarm goes off 8 hours later, it's down to 80% already. It's pretty shitty.
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All my droids have lasted me about a day on a full charge which is pretty average for smart phones
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The battery on my droid is great. It lasts all day unless I'm using it constantly.
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All my droids have lasted me about a day on a full charge which is pretty average for smart phones
I demand more.
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Get a dumb phone then because iPhones aren't much better.
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My Nokia flip phone lasts days. Feels good man.
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My Nokia flip phone lasts days. Feels good man.
That's it? I know times have changed, but my first phone (nokia stick, green/black screen) used to last literally 5-6 days on a charge. I figured a basic phone, even with new hardware would be able to come closer to that given the new types of batteries.
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My Nokia flip phone lasts days. Feels good man.
That's it? I know times have changed, but my first phone (nokia stick, green/black screen) used to last literally 5-6 days on a charge. I figured a basic phone, even with new hardware would be able to come closer to that given the new types of batteries.
...that's what I said: days. Five to six days sounds about right, though I can never remember when I charged it last to actually count.
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My Nokia flip phone lasts days. Feels good man.
That's it? I know times have changed, but my first phone (nokia stick, green/black screen) used to last literally 5-6 days on a charge. I figured a basic phone, even with new hardware would be able to come closer to that given the new types of batteries.
I don't know why you think 'days' must not come close to 5-6 days? How would you shorten 5-6 days? An almost week?
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Who really cares? The point is it lasts a long time...
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On average I charge my iPhone 4 every other night. I use it daily. Of course there are times when I charge it more but on average it's not daily.
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My Droid X used to be better on battery but it doesn't last me a whole day anymore.
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I charge my Galaxy S2 about every night.
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On average I charge my iPhone 4 every other night. I use it daily. Of course there are times when I charge it more but on average it's not daily.
Same here. Although lately, the battery seems to have gotten worse.
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I plug in my iPhone 4 every night because I use an alarm clock app.
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I plug in my iPhone 4 every night because I use an alarm clock app.
I use the alarm as well but do not plug it in every night. Why do you need to?
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...why would anyone not plug their phone in at night? It's probably just sitting right next to your charger... just plug it in.
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I'm not sure if I have uber-outdated information but I remember the battery lasts longer if you charge it from 0 rather than if it's half-full or something... Am I still in 1998 or this has some truth in it? :P
Also, both my previous (Samsung U800) and current (Galaxy Mini) seems to last two days with me writing tons of sms every day. Haven't had a chance to try it with the new one, but the U800 could last even something like 4-5 days if I didn't write or call much.
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I'm not sure if I have uber-outdated information but I remember the battery lasts longer if you charge it from 0 rather than if it's half-full or something... Am I still in 1998 or this has some truth in it? :P
Depends on the type of battery, but in general this isn't true (in general meaning everything that isn't a NiCad battery). It's more the case that batteries simply lose capacity over repeated charge/discharge cycles.
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I plug in my iPhone 4 every night because I use an alarm clock app.
I use the alarm as well but do not plug it in every night. Why do you need to?
I don't use the one that comes on the phone. I got an app that displays the time all night, and plays music from the iPod when the alarm goes off. I only plug it in to keep it on all night. And before you ask, if for some reason the phone is unplugged the alarms on the app still work, but they don't play songs.
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My Nokia flip phone lasts days. Feels good man.
That's it? I know times have changed, but my first phone (nokia stick, green/black screen) used to last literally 5-6 days on a charge. I figured a basic phone, even with new hardware would be able to come closer to that given the new types of batteries.
...that's what I said: days. Five to six days sounds about right, though I can never remember when I charged it last to actually count.
:facepalm
I read it as " a day"
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For the battery of the iPhone 4(S), which strategy is the best to make it last in the long run?
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For the battery of the iPhone 4(S), which strategy is the best to make it last in the long run?
Yeah, I'd like to know the same thing but for a Macbook Pro.
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Okay, it's the 12th. How do I get ios5 on my ipad?
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Okay, it's the 12th. How do I get ios5 on my ipad?
Wait until they release it on itunes basically. Hook up your ipad and check for update.
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Okay, it's the 12th. How do I get ios5 on my ipad?
Wait until they release it on itunes basically. Hook up your ipad and check for update.
Anyway to do it without connecting to a PC or Mac?
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"The 4S is more than capable of going through a full business day without needing a charge, and if you’re a lighter user, you’ll rarely have to worry about it."
- On Siri, "The software even has a good sense of humor. Asking it “what is the meaning of life?” will bring up a number of responses, both serious and not so serious. The first time I asked, Siri simply said “42.”
Several amusing examples of Siri responses including 'I'm Drunk' (Here's a list of cab companies)
- More praise for Siri: "Siri is not your typical voice recognition technology. You don’t dictate to Siri, you interact and have a conversation with Siri. It’s difficult to explain how good Siri is, but you’ll find out soon enough."
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Okay, it's the 12th. How do I get ios5 on my ipad?
Wait until they release it on itunes basically. Hook up your ipad and check for update.
Anyway to do it without connecting to a PC or Mac?
I don't believe so. Once you have ioS 5 on your ipad you will never have to connect it again though. EVerything will be wireless.
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Okay, it's the 12th. How do I get ios5 on my ipad?
Wait until they release it on itunes basically. Hook up your ipad and check for update.
Anyway to do it without connecting to a PC or Mac?
I don't believe so. Once you have ioS 5 on your ipad you will never have to connect it again though. EVerything will be wireless.
There has to be. What about people that buy an ipad because they don't have a computer? I could connect it later tonight when I'm home, but I'm impatient.
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Okay, it's the 12th. How do I get ios5 on my ipad?
Wait until they release it on itunes basically. Hook up your ipad and check for update.
Anyway to do it without connecting to a PC or Mac?
I don't believe so. Once you have ioS 5 on your ipad you will never have to connect it again though. EVerything will be wireless.
There has to be. What about people that buy an ipad because they don't have a computer? I could connect it later tonight when I'm home, but I'm impatient.
With iOS 4 you HAVE to connect to a computer because it does not do OTA updates or wireless syncing. That's one of the main advantages of iOS 5. No computer required. Everyone buying an iPad now will have it pre installed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq-e0getf4M
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq-e0getf4M
Seriously are you going to post a video showing how badly Android has ripped off iOS or how pretty much every smart phone out there right now is a "rip off" of the iPhone? It's nonsense both ways.
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Honestly I'm not all that happy with my andriod phone. It seems like it's a lot worse than the iPhone. I kinda regret not paying the little bit of extra.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq-e0getf4M
Seriously are you going to post a video showing how badly Android has ripped off iOS or how pretty much every smart phone out there right now is a "rip off" of the iPhone? It's nonsense both ways.
lol you didn't even watch it.
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Okay, it's the 12th. How do I get ios5 on my ipad?
Wait until they release it on itunes basically. Hook up your ipad and check for update.
Anyway to do it without connecting to a PC or Mac?
I don't believe so. Once you have ioS 5 on your ipad you will never have to connect it again though. EVerything will be wireless.
There has to be. What about people that buy an ipad because they don't have a computer? I could connect it later tonight when I'm home, but I'm impatient.
With iOS 4 you HAVE to connect to a computer because it does not do OTA updates or wireless syncing. That's one of the main advantages of iOS 5. No computer required. Everyone buying an iPad now will have it pre installed.
balls
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq-e0getf4M
Seriously are you going to post a video showing how badly Android has ripped off iOS or how pretty much every smart phone out there right now is a "rip off" of the iPhone? It's nonsense both ways.
lol you didn't even watch it.
yes i did.
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They've stolen a lot of features from each other. Let's just leave it at that.
Also, lol at how much Samsung and Apple hate each other right now. As well as them suing each other all over the place, Samsung's now done a similar thing to what Adobe did with their video editing products:
Can't say we didn't see this catfight coming after Apple boldly rejected Samsung's settlement offer in Australia, but man, the latter certainly isn't afraid of striking back in its enemy's front yard. According to The Sydney Morning Herald, Sammy's set up a pop-up store merely meters away from Apple's Sydney store, all for just stealing the thunder from the iPhone 4S launch this Friday. The campaign? For the first ten customers each day up to Friday, the Korean giant's offering its Galaxy S II for just $2 sans contract -- no wonder the line's already longer than Apple's, according to the Herald. But of course, Samsung's also effectively funding some of these folks for their iPhone 4S from next door, so it's pretty much a win-win situation for both companies. See? There's always a happy ending, and let's hope that the upcoming Nexus Prime won't add fuel to the ongoing patent dispute.
https://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/samsung-crashes-iphone-4s-block-party-lures-aussie-buyers-with/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq-e0getf4M
Seriously are you going to post a video showing how badly Android has ripped off iOS or how pretty much every smart phone out there right now is a "rip off" of the iPhone? It's nonsense both ways.
lol you didn't even watch it.
yes i did.
That video was stupid. Go back two years and you could have made an hour long video on how everyone copied Apple.
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installing IOS 5 brb
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For the battery of the iPhone 4(S), which strategy is the best to make it last in the long run?
Yeah, I'd like to know the same thing but for a Macbook Pro.
In general I've read that the best thing to do for rechargeable batteries is to charge them approximately 80% full and then run them to about 20% full. Obviously this is difficult to do, but it supposedly will result in the least amount of loss of capacity over time.
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Anyone else get the error when trying to update to iOS 5?
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What error are you getting? And when?
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Network error. After halfway point in downloading the update.
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It just means that everyone at the same time is accessing the servers and they can't handle it. It will work later I'm sure.
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Awesome!
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Downloading now!
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Error 3200.
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As I've gone from zero-iFamily in a few months I'm excited for the update.
iPhone 4 x2
iPod touch 4g
iPad 1.
I printed out all the new features.
Very cool stuff.
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8 hours to download iPad software update! Wtf
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Everyone's been bitching about how long it took to update to iOS 5, but it only took me about 30 minutes. Did I just get lucky?
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Took me 20 Mins to download the software around 1 oclock PST and about 3 tries due to errors to install it, it took me about 30 mins
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I was over at a friend's house who was downloading the iOS 5 for his iPhone 4 and it was a pain. First, the download took about an hour and a half and then he kept getting the 3200 Error everytime he tried to install it. After about 45-50 minutes of trying, we figure that maybe restarting the phone might work and it finally installed the software.
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That's the universal solution to anything electronic! :lol
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Took me a bit longer since I've missed a few updates on my macbook as well, that needed to be installed before the new itunes could be downloaded, and that need to be installed to installed IOS 5 (I though apple hated all those updates, well...)
But it's awesome. I like the new notifications, and the better visuals on the home screen and stuff. Other than that I haven't found much really new stuff. (I don't care for the kiosk, or the seperate video thingy)
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I have it now as well. And I have to say, my phone is responding a lot faster now.
I have a 3GS that I bought right around when it came out, and only recently have I noticed that it's really slow. Opening up the camera app takes forever, for instance.
This update solved it! I don't know if it cleared any files hogging up the memory or something, but I'm happy about it.
Anyway, the new notification system is worth it alone. Haven't had much time to check out anything else though.
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Ok.
iOS 5.
Spiders issues log:
I have one iTunes account, one email associated to that account.
4 devices registered under that account. Each device has their own specific save files for
various apps. The biggest being Smurf Village.(4 villages)
- plugged each device in to update to iOS 5.0, each one went through the back up process,
each one said there are paid apps that need to be back up to iTunes. Clicked yes.
- once each device was restarted I had to log into the ONE iTunes account registered to
the one email.
Issues:
- only the original first smurf village is present on ALL devices.
- only the original GAME CENTER profile is present on ALL devices.(though I think I can
log into the other profiles--haven't tried yet--but looks like I can)
- paid apps are missing on devices they were bought on (but appear in iTunes on the PC)
- calendars are no longer sync'd on phones
- do I want to back up to cloud or to pc....cloud seems to complicate the shit out of
everything.
any thoughts or assistance would be appreciated. yes I'm an iNoob please be patient.
alot of, if not all of these seem to be iTunes related and not OS5 related though some thoughts on the Cloud would be welcomed as well.
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Mine updated in a very weird way. I kept getting error 1303 that I didn't have space on my computer when I had tons. Anyways it would give me an error that it couldn't proceed with the installation and was trying to restore back to the previous state from backup.
It failed doing that as well yet I kept retrying to do the restore, at that point I thought the phone was bricked.
Weird thing was when it finally did come up it had ios 5 on it and said restore to ios 5 was successful. Weird.
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OK.
Game Center issue mostly solved, signed out, signed back in with right names on devices and Smurf Village restored.
Still not sure about why some games were gone, and calendar was unsynced.
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Well, I woke up this morning to an updated iPad. Haven't really had a chance to explore yet. I am upset about something though. Everything on it got backed up. My apps went to the cloud, my images were saved, my bookmarks and last pages visited were saved, my wallpaper stayed the same.... But I lost all my music. The only stuff I was abe to get back was the stuff purchased in iTunes. My computer that had all my music on it shit the bed a few weeks ago. I had to borrow my moms laptop and install iTunes on it so I could do the update. I thought it would have backed all my music files up on her machine, but apparently not. Now I am sad. Luckily my iPod still has everything, but I haven't updated it yet. I'm afraid if I try to do that, I will lose all my stuff for good.
I am really liking this split keyboard. I can actually put spaces between the word without constantly hitting the N key by mistake!
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You can get software that lets you transfer music from your ipod back onto your PC, you want to get that if you're worried.
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I purchased the new 3 album on iTunes the other day. It didn't even ask me for my password for some reason, it just started downloading and charged me for it. I get an email from iTunes later in the day saying that I had purchased something from a computer that iTunes did not previously have associated with my account (not sure why... I've downloaded on it before with no issue) and wanted to make sure it was legit. Ummm.... if you had concerns about whether it was a legit purchase, you should have made me use my password to make the purchase! I'm glad iTunes is concerned about the legitimacy of purchases on my account, but do it before you allow the purchase, not after!
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Ok.
iOS 5.
Spiders issues log:
I have one iTunes account, one email associated to that account.
4 devices registered under that account. Each device has their own specific save files for
various apps. The biggest being Smurf Village.(4 villages)
- plugged each device in to update to iOS 5.0, each one went through the back up process,
each one said there are paid apps that need to be back up to iTunes. Clicked yes.
- once each device was restarted I had to log into the ONE iTunes account registered to
the one email.
Issues:
- only the original first smurf village is present on ALL devices.
- only the original GAME CENTER profile is present on ALL devices.(though I think I can
log into the other profiles--haven't tried yet--but looks like I can)
- paid apps are missing on devices they were bought on (but appear in iTunes on the PC)
- calendars are no longer sync'd on phones
- do I want to back up to cloud or to pc....cloud seems to complicate the shit out of
everything.
any thoughts or assistance would be appreciated. yes I'm an iNoob please be patient.
alot of, if not all of these seem to be iTunes related and not OS5 related though some thoughts on the Cloud would be welcomed as well.
Run everything through the cloud. Don't back up to your computer anymore and select EVERYTHING to back up in the iOS software. This should fix your issues or most of them.
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Took me a bit longer since I've missed a few updates on my macbook as well, that needed to be installed before the new itunes could be downloaded, and that need to be installed to installed IOS 5 (I though apple hated all those updates, well...)
But it's awesome. I like the new notifications, and the better visuals on the home screen and stuff. Other than that I haven't found much really new stuff. (I don't care for the kiosk, or the seperate video thingy)
https://www.apple.com/ios/
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So, I was wondering, what has happened with Thunderbolt lately?
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So, I was wondering, what has happened with Thunderbolt lately?
More and more HDs are coming with it installed.
Example.
https://store.apple.com/us/product/H7150ZM/A/lacie-little-big-disk-thunderbolt-series-hard-drive (https://store.apple.com/us/product/H7150ZM/A/lacie-little-big-disk-thunderbolt-series-hard-drive)
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Got a cool Apple story that just happened to me...
My wife's macbook needed a repair and it was out of warranty. So I took it to the apple store because I could not diagnose the issue myself after trying. I thought she needed a new inverter board or a new display. The mac genius told me the same thing and said that because the casing was starting to crack they would replace the outer casing for free and not charge me for the labor at all! It turned out to be the display so the entire job to fix would be 350, less the labor and casing so the job would be 230 dollars. I agreed and they fixed it. I went in to pay and they rang me up and said.. hold on. I waited a few minutes and he came back and said it's free. I was shocked and said... "REALLY?" He said yeah, we are doing the repair for free. He gave me the paper work and the computer.
Free repair. NICE!!!!!!! :metal
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tj as you seem to be the resident expert...am I screwed?
I had multiple Game Center NAMES on one iTunes ID. These names were on different devices, wife's phone, son's iPod, family iPad.
so....now...they cannot log into their game centers any more only one original NAME exists associated with that iTunes ID. I've attempted password resets through game center, but what I feel Im doing is just re-setting the iTunes ID(associated with the single e-mail) password.
ughhhh
I can still see them in my game center on my phone...the reason being is I associated my GC id with a different email addy. I forget why I did it that way on mine.
thoughts?
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Nice. I bought my first iPod touch at Costco. It bricked after a year or so. I brought it to a Mac store and they ran a diagnostic. The Mac genius told me that the diagnostic tool couldn't read anything, therefore the problem could not be diagnosed. He said "three in stock, I can give you one if you want a new one". I was in and out in 15 minutes, and got a new iPod free of charge. I was shocked seeing as I didn't buy it there and had no proof of purchase of any kind.
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tj as you seem to be the resident expert...am I screwed?
I had multiple Game Center NAMES on one iTunes ID. These names were on different devices, wife's phone, son's iPod, family iPad.
so....now...they cannot log into their game centers any more only one original NAME exists associated with that iTunes ID. I've attempted password resets through game center, but what I feel Im doing is just re-setting the iTunes ID(associated with the single e-mail) password.
ughhhh
I can still see them in my game center on my phone...the reason being is I associated my GC id with a different email addy. I forget why I did it that way on mine.
thoughts?
Honestly i have ZERO experience with Game Center so i'm not going to act like I know what i'm talking about. But they cannot create new names? I will try to help the best i can.
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Nice. I bought my first iPod touch at Costco. It bricked after a year or so. I brought it to a Mac store and they ran a diagnostic. The Mac genius told me that the diagnostic tool couldn't read anything, therefore the problem could not be diagnosed. He said "three in stock, I can give you one if you want a new one". I was in and out in 15 minutes, and got a new iPod free of charge. I was shocked seeing as I didn't buy it there and had no proof of purchase of any kind.
nice! I'm currently trying to get a Mac Genius job and I hope to be the coolest one. ;D
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They need to put an apple store in my city :( I know so much stuff about all sorts of apple products, I'm pretty much everyones tech guy when it comes to apple stuff anyway, It'd be sweet if that was my job. I'd love to work there.
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Just had a conversation with James Labries solo album keyboardist Matt Guillory, we ended up having an hour long conversation about Apple Products, I found out he works for Apple on their audio programs and develops it for them, and no he doesnt work on Garage band, he works on the more higher end stuff :) It's pretty cool that some of my favourite musicians are just as into this awesome technology as I am.
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He probably works on logic which i've been using since 2000. Nice!
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Leaving now to get in line for the 4s! Siri here i come baby! :heart
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That guy commenting on your status is quite the tool.
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That guy commenting on your status is quite the tool.
Lol I get it from everywhere!
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It's not so much the stupid shit like: "I hope Steve Jobs dies again." but more about how he doesn't have a clue about technology altogether.
WHY DON'T THEY JUST MAKE A PRODUCT THAT LAST FOR DECADES? OLOL!
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"But, most folk are too poor to buy the next product every week. Hell, most companies, including Apple, actually program their products to break down."
:facepalm:
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:millahhhh
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Run everything through the cloud. Don't back up to your computer anymore and select EVERYTHING to back up in the iOS software. This should fix your issues or most of them.
May I ask why? What exactly is the cloud?
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The cloud is the most amazing invention created by apple in a long line of creating only amazing products, it can do so much that your amazement from this amazing product will leave you awestruck with magic and.... sorry got carried away.
It's an online storage bin which should allow you to backup your data, music, reminders, email, kitchen sink, etc..
It's a good concept for those who need it.
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Run everything through the cloud. Don't back up to your computer anymore and select EVERYTHING to back up in the iOS software. This should fix your issues or most of them.
May I ask why? What exactly is the cloud?
Because if you start mixing the itunes backups with the icloud backups some funny things seem to happen. Just set icloud for everything and every time you plug your phone into the wall to charge it, it will automatically back up to the cloud. You never actually have to hook your phone up to itunes because of the wifi syncing. When you update a calendar, contact, bookmark, email, etc.. it will automatically send that info to all of your icloud devices. So add an event, boom it's on your computer, etc. It's not storage which you can select, everything is automatically. It also auto saves your documents and pushes them to your devices as well. So if you create a document on your ipad, when you go to your computer it will be there and vice versa.
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The cloud is the most amazing invention created by apple in a long line of creating only amazing products, it can do so much that your amazement from this amazing product will leave you awestruck with magic and.... sorry got carried away.
Cloud computing has been around for quite a while, mate :lol
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Eh, I figured it was something like that, and I don't really like the idea of cloud computing. I'll stick with plugging my iPod into iTunes.
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Wireless syncing can be useful occasionally (I sometimes do it just for the novelty factor with my Zune) but I usually just stick with the cable.
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I do it for Spotify on my iPod, but it goes wrong a lot.
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I haven't had any issues with it going wrong so far... We'll see.
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Couple crazy things i just found out...
If you tell Siri you want to have sex it finds escort services around your location.
If you tell Siri you are drunk it finds local cabs for you.
If you ask it what the meaning of life is..... so far i got these answers.
42
Watching a Movie,
And then some really philosophical answer. LOL
I would imagine it keeps changing to make it fun.
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Yeah I read about that last one, quite amusing.
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The cloud is the most amazing invention created by apple in a long line of creating only amazing products, it can do so much that your amazement from this amazing product will leave you awestruck with magic and.... sorry got carried away.
Cloud computing has been around for quite a while, mate :lol
Hush now what in the world are you talking about, Apple created everything that is magical in this world.
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Oh, okay.
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I hope that my sarcasm was detected.
/not an apple hater.
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Didn't catch it in the first post. Got it in the previous one though :lol
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Sarcasm? Where? ???
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The cloud is the most amazing invention created by apple in a long line of creating only amazing products, it can do so much that your amazement from this amazing product will leave you awestruck with magic and.... sorry got carried away.
Cloud computing has been around for quite a while, mate :lol
Everything that has been around for quite a while is automatically regarded as an invention created by apple :)
So, I've never had an Apple product (hey, I even own a Zune :lol) but the one I'd really like to have is the iPad. Too bad it's very expensive in my country, but I've tried it and really liked it.
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sigh...did all of iTunes get re-set or something.
My wife and now have ALL each other's contacts in our phones.
Including my mistress.
LOL
kidding but...seriously.
**edit****the damn cloud did it***
Turned that off.
Sheesh.
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Dagnammit, this iOS5 upgrade to my iPod is the slowest thing ever. Looks like I'll have to just go out and leave it going. >:(
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Is that voice thing part of the upgrade on the iPad? Or is it iPhone only?
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Only on the 4S.
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https://thisismynext.com/2011/10/12/siri-weird-things-iphone-4s/
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:lol
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So, Siri kind of has some big limitations outside of the US...
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The iPhone 4S' Siri integration may be a potential game changer, but she's not quite the world traveler some of us would like her to be. In fact, it seems she's as lost outside of US borders as any unprepared tourist. Looking for a pub in London? Better find a traditional map. Need to know the time of day in Canada? Siri admits she has no idea, go buy a watch. Business search (via Yelp), directions, traffic data, and Wolfram Alpha search all appear to be US-only features for now. The automated assistant's international failings aren't too big of a surprise, however -- Apple's own Siri page outs the service as a beta, noting that some features may vary by area. Stuck with sub-par international support? Sit tight, it's coming: Apple's Siri FAQ states that additional language support (including Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Italian and Spanish), maps and local search content are set to go international in 2012.
https://www.engadget.com/2011/10/15/siri-gets-lost-internationally-promises-to-do-better-next-year/
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My Siri has a male voice, apparently because I'm in the UK. I prefer it though, as it sounds exactly like the voice in Blood Sugar by Pendulum. :biggrin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_5zvV0btCo
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Siri is still in beta and will be coming to more places with more languages in the future. They mentioned that in the beta.
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am I going to be able to get one of these bad boys any time soon?
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Update on my wife, who was upset aoout not getting a new iPhone body design (dislikes the look of 4) and decided to get an Android. She changed her mind since the Androids she wanted were more expensive and we are getting her a 4S whenever the store gets more in. ...I'm getting a BB Bold 9930.
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From a few status updates I'm seeing on Facebook, Siri seems to be having a problem understanding Scottish accents :lol
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Love the design of the 4s. Especially the white one! Got a white one this time and it's beautiful.
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From a few status updates I'm seeing on Facebook, Siri seems to be having a problem understanding Scottish accents :lol
Get t'fuck SIRI
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Siri, fit like? I dinnae like skirlie, yeh ken? Fit ye recommend instead, like?
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It seems to have trouble with most accents. My friend speaks perfectly clearly but has an east London accent, and half the time SIRI misunderstands the question.
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Speak properly then.
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Speak AMURREEKA!
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lol (https://gizmodo.com/5850306/the-situation-got-kicked-out-of-the-apple-store-for-trying-to-cut-in-line)
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Damn. I can't update my iPhone. When it's backing it so it can update it comes across an error. And it says that if I continue to update, I'll lose all the data on it. So no iOS 5 for now I guess.
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What error exactly?
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Siri: 1 Japanese guy: 0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiU8GPlsZqE&feature=youtu.be&a
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Ahahah. "I don't know what you mean by 'fuck.'"
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What error exactly?
It doesn't say. A dialogue box just comes up saying something to the effect of, "iTunes has encountered an error when backing up your iPhone. If you continue to update, all data on your iPhone will be lost."
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You can't back it up manually?
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Well it's not like I'll lose all my files forever. I still have all my music on my computer. I could probably save all of my photos contacts manually. I'll do that eventually.
Edit: Blargh. It still gives this error after backing up manually. Looks like I'll have to put everything back on manually.
(https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/QWERTYkid911/Untitled-1.png)
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I'll try to help you. I'll be back on in a bit.
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Ok instead of clicking update trying clicking restore. This should backup, restore and update. See if that works,.
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This sounds better. It's going well so far. Thanks.
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This sounds better. It's going well so far. Thanks.
let me know if you need any more help.
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WOW! To think this camera tech is in a freaking phone!
iPhone 4S / Canon 5d MKII Side by Side Comparison
https://vimeo.com/30606785
Loving my 4s! :metal
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Well everything was saved except the music, which I was expecting because I stopped using iTunes to sync my iPod a bit ago. No big deal. It was mainly the apps and contacts I was worried about. Thanks for your help!
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no problem glad I could help!
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WOW! To think this camera tech is in a freaking phone!
iPhone 4S / Canon 5d MKII Side by Side Comparison
https://vimeo.com/30606785
Loving my 4s! :metal
Google says that's a 2000euro camera.
Oh my god, I need that phone too!
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Awesome camera. Too bad when it focus on a screen.
https://news.yahoo.com/cheating-heart-iphone-app-finds-wife-another-man-140300843.html
Your Cheating Heart: iPhone App Finds Wife With Another Man
By NED POTTER | ABC News – Mon, Oct 17, 2011
When Apple released its new iOS 5 operating system to go with its iPhone 4S, it touted a new app called "Find My Friends" as a great way to track and meet up with friends. If they agree, you can see their locations on a map on your screen.
But the app's enterprising customers are apparently already finding other uses. If the online posts appearing on a chat forum at MacRumors.com are for real, "Find My Friends" may have already claimed its first marriage.
Saturday night on MacRumors, a man saying he lived in New York City posted this:
"Divorcing wife. Thanks iPhone 4s and Find My Friends.
"I got my wife a new 4s and loaded up find my friends without her knowing. She told me she was at her friends house in the east village. I've had suspicions about her meeting this guy who live uptown. Lo and behold, Find my Friends has her right there.
"I just texted her asking where she was and the dumb b---- said she was on 10th Street!! Thank you Apple, thank you App Store, thank you all. These beautiful treasure trove of screen shots [sic] going to play well when I meet her ... at the lawyer's office in a few weeks.
"thankfully, she's the rich one." [Read more by clicking on the link above]
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YES. You can finally have the phone check spelling without autocorrect. iOS5 is a success with that alone.
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YES. You can finally have the phone check spelling without autocorrect. iOS5 is a success with that alone.
Umm, you could turn that off even before iOS4 was release...
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You could only have spell check on with autocorrect.
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Oh, I see what you mean now.
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On a bathroom wall today, I had noticed that someone had written, "They took our Jobs" and then I regretted not thinking of something so clever.
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They most likely heard that from somewhere else.
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Just put this up for sale if anyone is interested.
https://cnj.en.craigslist.org/mob/2660865931.html
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I'm looking forward to buy that Steve Jobs Biography.
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I'm looking forward to buy that Steve Jobs Biography.
Thats gonna sell and assload of copies.
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But then they'll just release a new version of the biography the next year with stuff they left out of the first release!
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biography shall be interesting.
as a sidenote:
I love my Galaxy S2 - https://t.co/GTEJAsNn - :heart :heart :heart
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sold my iPhone 4 this morning. paid for my 4s!
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So recently my Macbook seems to overheat relatively easily. I watch a video, fan goes on max. I have a couple apps open, max is running pretty high.
It didn't previously run so high or noisily... any thoughts?
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What operating system are you running? Did you recently update?
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7385704n&tag=contentMain;contentAux
Highly recommend watching the 60 Minutes special on Jobs with his biographer. Very interesting.
Unreal story about his real father.
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What operating system are you running? Did you recently update?
10.6.8
And I do think I updated not too long ago.
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Planning on getting an iTouch soon my iPod video broke a few years ago. Can't wait to bring my love of DT anywhere I want especially on walks at night. Back then I wasn't even into DT, now I can't go a day without thinking or listening to them.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7385704n&tag=contentMain;contentAux
Highly recommend watching the 60 Minutes special on Jobs with his biographer. Very interesting.
Oh my God. There's this guy in class who has Asperger Syndrome and it's really difficult to cope with him; he stutters a lot. He's smart but he has a very difficult time communicating with others. There was this time last year when I was talking about the new Nobel Laureates and I made a mistake, I confused Sweden with Switzerland and he made a very cold reproach towards me, pointing out my mistake. I didn't take it personally, just thought "what a weird man". Then I discovered that he acted like that because he had the disease. The curious thing, and the reason I'm telling this story, is that he always carries his iPad everywhere. He has an amazing memory and God knows how much benefit he has taken from this gadget.
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What operating system are you running? Did you recently update?
10.6.8
And I do think I updated not too long ago.
Try going to apple.com and finding the combo update for 10.6.8 and reinstalling it.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7385704n&tag=contentMain;contentAux
Highly recommend watching the 60 Minutes special on Jobs with his biographer. Very interesting.
Oh my God. There's this guy in class who has Asperger Syndrome and it's really difficult to cope with him; he stutters a lot. He's smart but he has a very difficult time communicating with others. There was this time last year when I was talking about the new Nobel Laureates and I made a mistake, I confused Sweden with Switzerland and he made a very cold reproach towards me, pointing out my mistake. I didn't take it personally, just thought "what a weird man". Then I discovered that he acted like that because he had the disease. The curious thing, and the reason I'm telling this story, is that he always carries his iPad everywhere. He has an amazing memory and God knows how much benefit he has taken from this gadget.
I've got a friend like that too. The mega-memory doesn't always translate into actual intelligence, though. One friend of mine with it seems to have real issues understanding new ideas. Of course, once he understands and accepts something, he doesn't get off it for months. :lol
Anyway, that has nothing to do with iPads.
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What operating system are you running? Did you recently update?
10.6.8
And I do think I updated not too long ago.
Try going to apple.com and finding the combo update for 10.6.8 and reinstalling it.
I'm very new to all of this...
So download this?
https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1399
Do I need to uninstall before doing anything?
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That's it. Try that, and see if the problem is any better. No need to uninstall. Also try installing the newest version of flash if that solution doesn't work. Maybe the flash install isn't working properly.
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That's it. Try that, and see if the problem is any better. No need to uninstall. Also try installing the newest version of flash if that solution doesn't work. Maybe the flash install isn't working properly.
Thanks for the help, will do when I get home from work.
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Took some photos today at a local church. Tested out the camera. So nice out today!
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/tjanuranus/iphone%204s/IMG_0071.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/tjanuranus/iphone%204s/IMG_0079.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/tjanuranus/iphone%204s/IMG_0055.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/tjanuranus/iphone%204s/IMG_0065.jpg)
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That's it. Try that, and see if the problem is any better. No need to uninstall. Also try installing the newest version of flash if that solution doesn't work. Maybe the flash install isn't working properly.
Updated flash and did the update... still have fan issue.
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Ok I should have suggested this first
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964
But it's not bad to do what I suggested. Try that. If that doesn't work.... Something may be wrong. But that will reset the system that controls the fan.
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I just read this on CNN and I'm dumbfounded by it:
When his pancreatic neuroendocrine tumor was first discovered in October 2003, doctors said he was lucky that it had been detected so early, and it could be removed before definitely spreading. But, in Jobs' own words, "I really didn't want them to open up my body, so I tried to see if a few other things would work." Those "other things" included a strict vegan diet, acupuncture, herbal remedies, and other alternative techniques – even consulting a psychic.
His family pleaded with him, but it wasn't until June 2004, when a CAT scan revealed that the tumor had grown and perhaps spread, that he had to realize he couldn't successfully will his own cancer treatment.
Source (https://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/25/steve-jobs-a-difficult-patient/?&hpt=hp_c2)
I have never been a huge Apple fan, although I do own (or have owned) my share of their products. Love my iPod, use my iPad once in a while, I guess. Don't currently own a Mac, I had one, but found it mostly useless for my personal computing needs so I sold it. With that said, I have always thought of Steve Jobs as a brilliant entrepreneur and an extremely intelligent person. So I was astonished to read what I read in the quote above. Vegan diet? Acupuncture? Herbal remedies? A fucking psychic?
:facepalm:
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Well his thinking differently made him great and ended up killing him possibly. But you can't change who you are.
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LOL
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Well his thinking differently made him great and ended up killing him possibly. But you can't change who you are.
I'm pretty sure whatever made him choose a psychic over a doctor wasn't the same set of logic that made him an innovator. In fact, I'm pretty sure he changed over time, as well. He wasn't always God, tj.
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I'm just saying he's always been eccentric and out of the box. And you are who you are and it leads to good decisions and bad. In this case obviously terrible.
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Just saw this, thought I'd post it.
https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/032411jobsa
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Big shock, he was a human being. Nice sometimes, a dick other times, who made mistakes and also great accomplishments. I'm sure he had a big ego like most people in his position probably do and that leads to assholeish behavior. But he is dead now and to me it's sad a great visionary is gone.
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"Bill [Gates] is basically unimaginative and has never invented anything, which is why he's more comfortable in philanthropy than technology," Jobs sneeringly told Isaacson.
Heh.
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Just saw this, thought I'd post it.
https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/032411jobsa
If I could afford it I would do dumb shit like drive around without a license plate. The comment about everyone being replacable... His business/work was his life, every decision that he made he weighed against the greater good of Apple. When your only goal in life is to make your company number one, people have to be replacable. No business makes it huge by keeping dead weight around.
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Just saw this, thought I'd post it.
https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/032411jobsa (https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/032411jobsa)
Yeah, not much of that is really news. His arrogance was well known as was his poor treatment of the people who worked with/for him.
I'm just kind of :omg: at the fact that such an intelligent person would be so, well, stupid. Just goes to show you that arrogance can be very, very dangerous, because it's pretty clear that Job's massive ego likely got him killed.
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Just saw this, thought I'd post it.
https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/032411jobsa (https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/032411jobsa)
If I could afford it I would do dumb shit like drive around without a license plate. The comment about everyone being replacable... His business/work was his life, every decision that he made he weighed against the greater good of Apple. When your only goal in life is to make your company number one, people have to be replacable. No business makes it huge by keeping dead weight around.
RIGHT! Who gives a shit about a $50 parking ticket when you are worth hundreds of millions?
The problem is, this kind of doucebaggery really sort of urinates on his legacy. Which is a shame.
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I heard today Sony has bought the rights of the biography to make a movie. Aaron Sorkin (The Social Network, The West Wing) will write the screenplay.
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I'm just saying he's always been eccentric and out of the box. And you are who you are and it leads to good decisions and bad. In this case obviously terrible.
Agree completely. His own stubbornness and pride undid him, even though it's also what also made him such a fierce competitor in the market.
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Love my iPhone.
Love my iProducts that my family owns.
love having my ass handed to me at Archetype.
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Just saw this, thought I'd post it.
https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/032411jobsa (https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/032411jobsa)
If I could afford it I would do dumb shit like drive around without a license plate. The comment about everyone being replacable... His business/work was his life, every decision that he made he weighed against the greater good of Apple. When your only goal in life is to make your company number one, people have to be replacable. No business makes it huge by keeping dead weight around.
RIGHT! Who gives a shit about a $50 parking ticket when you are worth hundreds of millions?
The problem is, this kind of doucebaggery really sort of urinates on his legacy. Which is a shame.
Seinfeld goes to the same coffee shop every morning, and parks in the same handicapped spot day in and day out. The same cop waits for him every morning with a ticket waiting.
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I'm in the library on campus right now, and after gazing around I felt that I had to come to this thread. There are 23 people around me with laptops, I'm counting 17 Macs.... Maybe it's just CT, but Macs have taken this campus by storm. Posting from my iPad btw.
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I'm in the library on campus right now, and after gazing around I felt that I had to come to this thread. There are 23 people around me with laptops, I'm counting 17 Macs.... Maybe it's just CT, but Macs have taken this campus by storm. Posting from my iPad btw.
Depending on the school and the region we see them quite a bit as well in our work. (I do a lot of work in Boston at several of the colleges) For example, Harvard Business School is like Macintosh Central. Most of the kids there have Macbooks. On the other hand, Olin College (a much smaller, less expensive school) is dominated by PCs. Money has a lot to do with it, given the fact that an average Windows-based laptop is around $400 or $500 these days and the Macbooks start at twice that cost.
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I'd say it's maybe 50/50 here, if not a little less in favor of PCs.
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I'd say it's maybe 50/50 here, if not a little less in favor of PCs.
Forgive my ignorance, but where are you?
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I'd say it's maybe 50/50 here, if not a little less in favor of PCs.
Forgive my ignorance, but where are you?
University of California, Santa Barbara
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:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:
2001: A Space Odyssey’-Inspired IRIS 9000 voice control module for iPhone & Siri
(https://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ6FBE0613-550x424.jpg)
One of the killer features in Apple’s new iPhone 4S is a virtual personal assistant program named Siri. The new software, which is built into the core operating system, allows users to ask questions or create tasks using natural speech. Before the phone was released, someone created a video we previously posted which replaced the iPhone 4S’s Siri with Hal 9000 from Stanley Kubrick‘s classic film 2001: A Space Odyssey. We later discovered that the Apple engineers hid a bunch of funny easter eggs for Siri’s possibly responses, including yes, references and responses to 2001 dialogue cues.
(https://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ4CBDF440-550x743.jpg)
Here is the official product description from ThinkGeek:
Control Siri from across the room… perfect for deep space missions. Having an artificially intelligent computer at our beck and call has long been the fantasy of every green blooded sci-fi fan amongst us. Finally Siri on the iPhone 4s has given us a tantalizing taste of this promised future… and we’re lapping it up. However it’s not all roses in our 2011 A.I. future tech fantasy. Sure Siri can schedule appointments, make funny quips and answer inane trivia questions with the help of Wolfram Alpha but she has one failing… to get her to listen you’ve got to have your hands on your phone and push a button. Somehow when we imagined the future of smart computer companions we assumed that shouting at them from across the room to do our bidding was part of the package. Apparently not.
Therefore you can see why we were forced to create the Iris 9000 voice control module for iPhone & Siri. Simply place your iPhone into the Iris 9000 cradle and use the included micro remote to trigger Siri up to 50 feet away. Just tap the Iris 9000 remote button once, listen for the Siri chime, and speak your command. The built in mic on the Iris 9000 picks up your voice from across the room and the embedded speaker amplifies Siri’s spoken responses. You can also make and receive calls using the Iris 9000 like a standard speakerphone. Oh and did we mention that Iris 9000′s glowing eye flickers along with Siri’s voice? How’s that for amazing Buckaroo Banzai future tech?
Product Features
Control your iPhone 4S and Siri from across the room
Classic Sci-fi styling. Aluminum accents.
Included micro remote triggers Siri with a single button press
Built-in mic picks up your voice at a distance
Embedded speaker amplifies Siri’s responses
Use as a standard speakerphone to make and receive calls
Glowing LED eye flickers along with Siri’s voice
Powered by included 120-240V AC adapter
ONLY COMPATIBLE WITH iPhone 4S
Patent pending technology
Exclusive product designed and manufactured by ThinkGeek
Teaser trailer:
https://youtu.be/0Q0kd5LlANk (https://youtu.be/0Q0kd5LlANk)
IRIS 9000 won’t be released until sometime in 2012 (likely sometime in April), but you can sign up to be notified on the ThinkGeek website. The product will be sold for $59.99.
https://www.slashfilm.com/lol-2001-space-odysseyinspired-iris-9000-voice-control-module-iphone-siri/
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That's AWESOME.
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Welcome to something I read something a few hours before you.
Yeesh, so far behind the times.
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Welcome to something I read something a few hours before you.
Yeesh, so far behind the times.
Clearly it's because he's on a Mac.
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Yeah because it's slower than my ULTRA POWERFUL PC THAT I BUILT WITH MY OWN TWO HANDS.
Also, my internet is so fast that I receive articles ahead of them being published.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
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I knew about it yesterday
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/chknptpie/ThinkGeek.jpg)
:neverusethis:
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Don't you need to press the microphone in order to activate it? So how can you use it from across the room?
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It has the little one button remote to activate it.
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Ah yeah, must have glossed over that part!
Very cool idea, but ultimately it's still SIRI, so she'll still just misunderstand everything. :lol
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They should definitely have a "Siri" built into Windows 8 and whatever Mac has next.
Next stop: New from Apple, the iHouse!
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I knew about it yesterday
(https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/chknptpie/ThinkGeek.jpg)
:neverusethis:
:hefdaddy
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@ That article: He was a human being, big deal. And I'm not denying that he might actually have been an asshole, it's hard to deny he was given everything that article mentions. But hey, I've done terrible things too, and so have you. Everyone ever associated with Steve Jobs has done things that might qualify them as an asshole too.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
https://i.imgur.com/skt6m.png
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The loltjanuranus Thread?
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University of Toronto seems to be about 65/35 in favour of Apple.
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The loltjanuranus Thread?
Glad you noticed but the article time was more important.
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Question:
in safari on my phone when I go to yahoo then click mail Im already logged in from "one time" many days ago. I don't want this. I want to have to put the id and password in everytime. How do get it to forget. It is not the email account associated to my phone, I'm getting to it by browsing in safari. I have auto fill turned off in safari but it doesn't seem to matter.
thoughts?
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I'd say it's maybe 50/50 here, if not a little less in favor of PCs.
Forgive my ignorance, but where are you?
University of California, Santa Barbara
Ahh, yes, I love that town. I've got a few friends living there. Used to live in Modesto myself, and Merced too
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The loltjanuranus Thread?
what does that mean?
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Pics or it didn't happen.
https://i.imgur.com/skt6m.png
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They should definitely have a "Siri" built into Windows 8 and whatever Mac has next.
Next stop: New from Apple, the iHouse!
I want an apple TV with real time linking and displaying of any apple product. I want the TV to rotate 90 degrees automatically to mimic my iPad in portrait mode. Also, I want the next iPad to be able to sense where my fingers are in relation to the ipad so I can operate it on the TV without having to look down to see where my fingers are.
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The loltjanuranus Thread?
what does that mean?
It means you're the go-to guy for Apple stuff on the forum. Nothing wrong with that.
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The loltjanuranus Thread?
what does that mean?
It means you're the go-to guy for Apple stuff on the forum. Nothing wrong with that.
oh lol. It's been that way in my regular life for a decade now. No reason it shouldn't be here as well i guess. I've gotten a lot of pm's asking me questions as well and I don't mind helping anyone at all.
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https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/11/02/the-easytheft-do-it-yourself-apple-store-goes-live-thursday/
Apple (AAPL) has two problems its competitors would kill for: 1) It can't build new product fast enough to meet demand and 2) its stores are over-crowded with customers clamoring for attention.
On Thursday, according to several reports, it aims to address the second problem with a new version of its Apple Store app.
This free app for the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch has been around for some time but in its current incarnation it doesn't bring much to the party. You can search for products, read reviews and order an item for shipment or pick-up at an Apple Store. But when you get to the store you're thrown into the maelstrom with everybody else.
The new version, according to the Boy Genius Report, does a whole lot more:
If you order an in-stock product, pick up will be available in approximately 12 minutes
If the product is out of stock or requires engraving or gift-wrapping, you'll be sent a push notification 12 minutes before it's ready
Customers who order through the app will be given priority treatment when they arrive at the store
Most surprising of all, if BGR's account is to be believed, Apple will supposedly allow customers to scan items on display, pay for them through the app, and walk out of the store without their bags being checked. According to 9to5Mac, concerned staffers have dubbed this feature EasyTheft, a play on the company's EasyPay service. We'll see if it happens.
Why is Apple doing any of this? Because building new stores is expensive. In the 10-K form it filed last week, the company has set aside $900 million for new retail outlets in fiscal 2012, nearly 9% of its $8 billion budget for capital expenditures.
I think it's a good idea. We'll see how they'll solve the EasyTheft dilemma.
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I tend to hate Apple marketing, and the almost cult like vibe that goes with it can be downright creepy. That said, their marketing is also fucking brilliant. They have people almost competing against each other to buy their products. They literally just have to announce a product at this point, and large numbers of people will clamor to buy it.
I've actually been reading Steve Jobs' biography lately. The guy is pretty fascinating. I do like as well how unfiltered it is, in the sense that they leave in things that make him come across as a complete asshole at times. He had plenty of flaws, which I've always felt are key to what makes someone interesting; their flaws and how they deal with them. I may not be a fan of his company, but I really like his general approach to the whole thing.
I like one account fairly early on in the book where his friend's ex girlfriend joined a cult that required her to cut off contact with everyone she knew. Jobs literally walked into their compound, found her, told her that they were leaving, and drove her home (making her drive half way, in spite of her not being able to drive a manual, which the car was).
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YES YES YES YES
https://money.cnn.com/2011/11/10/technology/adobe_flash/index.htm
Adobe is moving away from its 15-year-old technology to instead embrace a universal standard for displaying rich media on the Web. Shifting to HTML5 -- the new, broadly accepted Web standard -- is a bold move for Adobe. Many smartphone and tablet owners, particularly those with iPhones and iPads, have not been able to view media coded for Flash on their mobile devices.
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Why is that "YES"?
Flash isn't going anywhere. HTML5 can't do a fraction of what Flash can, nor is it even designed to.
Flash is a lot more than just displaying video, and that is the only area where it's going to lose ground here. HTML5 video is currently still a mess compared to implementing Flash anyway.
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This is just for mobile phones.
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Flash can't bugger off fast enough as far as I'm concerned.
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This is just for mobile phones.
I know, but the article is trying to spin it into something much bigger than it is. Just look at the headline. Flash has never been great on mobile devices for various reasons. But in the PC market, it's not going anywhere.
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This is just for mobile phones.
I know, but the article is trying to spin it into something much bigger than it is. Just look at the headline. Flash has never been great on mobile devices for various reasons. But in the PC market, it's not going anywhere.
All I know is that this will open up a whole new realm of porn on my ipad. :corn
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Apple should get into assisting law enforcement next. So much of their stuff works seemlessly together cops could benefit from it big time.
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Also:
16 gig iPad 2 wi-fi in USA - 488$ 7% tax (florida price)
16 gig iPad 2 wi-fi in Canada - 549$ + 13% tax, plus eco fee for electronics, plus copywright fee for a device that can listen to digital music.
Canada.
Don't shop here, even if you live here.
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Yeah, buying electronics here is bullshit. All of the extra fees are annoying enough, but still typically being charged significantly higher prices than Americans at this point even before that is bullshit. Our dollar has been around par with the US dollar for years now, at several points being worth more. Yet, prices still seem based on what our dollar was worth ten to fifteen years ago.
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Weird, Steve Jobs was right AGAIN years ahead of his time. Haters can fuck off now.
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:lol
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Can some iPhone users give me some guidance? My wife just got a 4s and I have a BB Bold 9930. I use wireless data more than her, but her usage is 10x my own. The only notable thing she's done is listen to Pandora for a few hours and upload a couple of pictures... to the amount of almost 300mb of usage in a week. What's going on? I stream more than her and have uploaded more pictures, but I'm only around 30 mb.
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Can some iPhone users give me some guidance? My wife just got a 4s and I have a BB Bold 9930. I use wireless data more than her, but her usage is 10x my own. The only notable thing she's done is listen to Pandora for a few hours and upload a couple of pictures... to the amount of almost 300mb of usage in a week. What's going on? I stream more than her and have uploaded more pictures, but I'm only around 30 mb.
That doesn't sound right at all. I would contact ATT and see if there is something wrong on their end.
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I've used my iPhone semi-regularly on 3G for a week nog and I have about 35 MB of usage...
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FYI: We're on Verizon, not ATT, although I doubt that makes a difference.
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^makes a HUGE difference in coverage with Verizon having a vastly superior network, but I think network data transfer volume is similar if not identical.
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^makes a HUGE difference in coverage with Verizon having a vastly superior network, but I think network data transfer volume is similar if not identical.
Superior in coverage maybe but my ATT coverage is perfectly fine where I live. I don't get why people complain about ATT. The speeds are very fast as well.
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^makes a HUGE difference in coverage with Verizon having a vastly superior network, but I think network data transfer volume is similar if not identical.
Superior in coverage maybe but my ATT coverage is perfectly fine where I live. I don't get why people complain about ATT. The speeds are very fast as well.
People complain about it because their coverage is inferior. My brother can't even make a phone call from my house with his iPhone (AT&T) but my wife CAN make calls with her iPhone (Verizon).
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^makes a HUGE difference in coverage with Verizon having a vastly superior network, but I think network data transfer volume is similar if not identical.
Superior in coverage maybe but my ATT coverage is perfectly fine where I live. I don't get why people complain about ATT. The speeds are very fast as well.
People complain about it because their coverage is inferior. My brother can't even make a phone call from my house with his iPhone (AT&T) but my wife CAN make calls with her iPhone (Verizon).
I'm not saying that's not true. Maybe it's the area I am in that's fine. I live in central NJ and the only time I ever have issues is when I go into manhattan. Sometimes it's slooooow. Other than that ATT is fine.
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That's because AT&T is just implementing service upgrades to their NYC cell sites.
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According to the biography Jobs "solved" the TV problem. Pretty interesting.
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As in Apple TV?
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As in the device itself, screen plus body.
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Weird, Steve Jobs was right AGAIN years ahead of his time. Haters can fuck off now.
LOL. You're hilarious.
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The best comedy is truth.
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As in the device itself, screen plus body.
I didn't realize there was a problem. Any hints on what he had planned? Eliminate the body altogether and find a project able area for the screen or something? I only say this because I believe the Japanese have been developing paper thin, flexible portable screen type things for some time and maybe that was the road he was thinking of heading down.
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As in the device itself, screen plus body.
I didn't realize there was a problem. Any hints on what he had planned? Eliminate the body altogether and find a project able area for the screen or something? I only say this because I believe the Japanese have been developing paper thin, flexible portable screen type things for some time and maybe that was the road he was thinking of heading down.
I think maybe he is talking about a simple interface where everything you would want to do is built in. Maybe siri, netflix, hulu, iTunes, streaming etc would all be built in. With siri the possibilities could be great. Plus the hardware design would be great of course with Jon Ives designing it. I have no idea really but i'm just guessing like everyone.
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As in the device itself, screen plus body.
I didn't realize there was a problem. Any hints on what he had planned? Eliminate the body altogether and find a project able area for the screen or something? I only say this because I believe the Japanese have been developing paper thin, flexible portable screen type things for some time and maybe that was the road he was thinking of heading down.
I think maybe he is talking about a simple interface where everything you would want to do is built in. Maybe siri, netflix, hulu, iTunes, streaming etc would all be built in. With siri the possibilities could be great. Plus the hardware design would be great of course with Jon Ives designing it. I have no idea really but i'm just guessing like everyone.
Yeah, pretty much this. Pure speculation on what it could be, mean, etc. There was a suggestive NYTimes article that stated how Siri could be a major key in this whole integration. According to the author this productive would be launch around this date in 2012 or first quarter of 2013.
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Weird, Steve Jobs was right AGAIN years ahead of his time. Haters can fuck off now.
According to Adobe, it's Apples fault that they're not going to continue with Flash for mobiles.
https://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/adobe-product-manager-fingers-apple-for-death-of-flash-player-fo/
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Weird, Steve Jobs was right AGAIN years ahead of his time. Haters can fuck off now.
According to Adobe, it's Apples fault that they're not going to continue with Flash for mobiles.
https://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/adobe-product-manager-fingers-apple-for-death-of-flash-player-fo/
HATER! Fuck off now!!!
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I guess I better.
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Good If you know the history of Adobe and Steve Jobs it's awesome that apple is the cause. Adobe fucked Steve Jobs about a decade ago and Steve never forgot it.
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Weird, Steve Jobs was right AGAIN years ahead of his time. Haters can fuck off now.
>says the kindle will fail because "people don't read anymore"
>markets the ipad as an ebook reader a year later.
>WHAT A VISIONARY
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Weird, Steve Jobs was right AGAIN years ahead of his time. Haters can fuck off now.
>says the kindle will fail because "people don't read anymore"
>markets the ipad as an ebook reader a year later.
>WHAT A VISIONARY
First of all you are taking one thing out of 35 years and also he is right. People don't read as much anymore. I used to read a lot but I don't have as much time anymore so I listen to a lot of audiobooks. Being an eReader is just one part of the iPad. How did he market the iPad as an eReader? Watch an iPad commercial and see how that statement is false. Here is a one...
https://youtu.be/tyEpaPEbjzI
and here is another...
https://youtu.be/Um4gLMZDXkA
and another...
https://youtu.be/btfbIVGES1I
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I actually read more because of my Kindle.
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I actually read more because of my Kindle.
Between school work and everything else I don't much time to read anymore. Borders went out of business and Barnes and Nobles is not doing well. HE was right, people don't read as much anymore. It's getting worse the more social media is advancing.
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It couldn't be anything to do with online retailers like Amazon selling books at much cheaper prices and the fact that ebooks are actually outselling physical books now...could it?
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It couldn't be anything to do with online retailers like Amazon selling books at much cheaper prices and the fact that ebooks are actually outselling physical books now...could it?
No, it couldn't. Steve's crystal ball says so.
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It's more than just online retailers and ebooks, it's department stores running price wars in the last few years. It used to be book stores made good money on new releases, but then department stores started putting huge reductions on new releases as a way to lure customers. It's hard to profit when you have competitors that can take a loss on your best products. Book stores have just been getting attacked from too many fronts.
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It couldn't be anything to do with online retailers like Amazon selling books at much cheaper prices and the fact that ebooks are actually outselling physical books now...could it?
No, it couldn't. Steve's crystal ball says so.
Good one.
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It couldn't be anything to do with online retailers like Amazon selling books at much cheaper prices and the fact that ebooks are actually outselling physical books now...could it?
No probably not. It's probably because people would rather spend their time on Facebook or tweeting than reading books. I see it all the time. People definitely read a lot but books.. i don't know.
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It couldn't be anything to do with online retailers like Amazon selling books at much cheaper prices and the fact that ebooks are actually outselling physical books now...could it?
No, it couldn't. Steve's crystal ball says so.
Good one.
...so you two are claiming the brains behind Apple was actually an inanimate object?
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It couldn't be anything to do with online retailers like Amazon selling books at much cheaper prices and the fact that ebooks are actually outselling physical books now...could it?
No, it couldn't. Steve's crystal ball says so.
Good one.
...so you two are claiming the brains behind Apple was actually an inanimate object?
He is. I was just congratulating him on his epic joke.
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It couldn't be anything to do with online retailers like Amazon selling books at much cheaper prices and the fact that ebooks are actually outselling physical books now...could it?
No, because Steve Jobs is NEVER wrong!
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He is. I was just congratulating him on his epic joke.
Oh, I thought the two of you really believed a crystal ball ran Apple for all those years.
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It couldn't be anything to do with online retailers like Amazon selling books at much cheaper prices and the fact that ebooks are actually outselling physical books now...could it?
No, because Steve Jobs is NEVER wrong!
No one is saying that. He was wrong about the iPhone 4 antenna. That's one example.
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I actually read more because of my Kindle.
Between school work and everything else I don't much time to read anymore. Borders went out of business and Barnes and Nobles is not doing well. HE was right, people don't read as much anymore. It's getting worse the more social media is advancing.
It couldn't be anything to do with online retailers like Amazon selling books at much cheaper prices and the fact that ebooks are actually outselling physical books now...could it?
Tjanarus, book stores are suffering the same consequences that Tower Records and Blockbuster did. They couldn't adapt fast enough (or at all) to the new demands. This does not mean that people are reading less but are turning to alternative retailers. The fact that Tower Records is out business worldwide means that people don't listen to music anymore? No, look at iTunes. Since Blockbuster has gone out of business means that people don't rent or watch movies anymore? No, look at Netflix and the millions of people that (illegally) download the movies and still go to the cinema to watch one with some friends.
E-book readers are growing exponentially worldwide, but this does not mean that readers are decreasing. That is just false. What the correction of the market is showing is that Book Stores need the complimentary e-book market in order to survive. It has been shown that more people have bought new physical books because they have had the chance to read them first (be it the whole book or just some chapters) in a digital form.
To tie it more with Apple for the sake of this thread, Jobs made a mistake when saying that people are reading less -like Sigz correctly pointed out. However, he did correct his mistake, not by saying out loud "lol, I was wrong", but by introducing the iPad and the iBooks app so millions of customers could turn to a market that was begging to be exploited.
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I think it is a combination of people reading less as well as readers switching to e-books.
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Someone on /r/AskScience did the math on the retina display: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/m9bro/what_resolution_does_a_human_eye_see_at/c2z7spb
It turns out there’s a magic number right around 300 pixels per inch, that when you hold something around to 10 to 12 inches away from your eyes, is the limit of the human retina to differentiate the pixels”
-Steve Jobs
Let's disprove this
-The retina's diameter is about 22mm.
-Each degree of retinal angle is about 22mm*pi/360 = 190 um.
-The fovea centralis has a cone density of about 50 cones per 100 um. Or 95 / 190 um.
So, we have about 95 cones per degree of visual angle. Studies have shown the we can detect 50 black-white cycles per degree, which corresponds to 100 detectors, so these numbers match.
-At 12 inches away, one degree of visual angle is 0.2 inches
-The iphone has 326 pixels per inch * 0.2 inches = 65 pixels per degree
-We can detect 100 which is more than 65.
QED
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First of all you are taking one thing out of 35 years and also he is right. People don't read as much anymore. I used to read a lot but I don't have as much time anymore so I listen to a lot of audiobooks.
Oh ok, you're all people. Makes sense.
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Someone on /r/AskScience did the math on the retina display: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/m9bro/what_resolution_does_a_human_eye_see_at/c2z7spb
It turns out there’s a magic number right around 300 pixels per inch, that when you hold something around to 10 to 12 inches away from your eyes, is the limit of the human retina to differentiate the pixels”
I wonder if Apple will wait for the iPhone 5 or the iPad 3 to release a much higher or a real Retinda display. Another link supporting Sigz contribution to the Retina display debate: https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364871,00.asp#fbid=jf6SKDW0ZtT
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Just bought myself a brand new black 32GB iPod Touch 4th generation. I thought they would release a 5th model because they did yearly for the previous ones.
They better not release a new one too soon.
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They just released new iPod Touches...
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Disregard this, wrong thread.
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They just released new iPod Touches...
All it has is iOS 5 now. I meant upgrading its hardware like camera and ram everything comparable to the iPhone 4S. The iTouch has always been an iPhone but without phone capabilities at least that's what I've always expected of it. Oh well I'm still dam excited about getting an iTouch.
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Yeah, I know that that's what you meant. But since they've just "upgraded" them (basically lower the price and out iOS 5 on them, as well as add a white model), they're not going to release new ones soon. That's what I was saying. :)
Also: Maybe you already know this but if you're ever wondering if you're buying an Apple product will be upgraded in the recent future you can check this page: https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
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According to the biography Jobs "solved" the TV problem. Pretty interesting.
I want a TV that comes with Siri. I want to be able to say "Record Mythbusters Tonight" or "Let me know when Punkin Chunkin is on"
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First of all you are taking one thing out of 35 years and also he is right. People don't read as much anymore. I used to read a lot but I don't have as much time anymore so I listen to a lot of audiobooks.
Oh ok, you're all people. Makes sense.
:yarr
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After three years of using my Dell Inspiron laptop it finally gave up. I can't shake that fucking Blue Screen of Death Screen. I'm currently running it some tests to see how to address the issue. This is my last week of classes (I'm finally getting my diploma, yey!) and the next two weeks are the final exams. I hope I can save all my info in a Hard-Drive very soon so I can write my essays (hell, I can use my mum's laptop but I just want to save my Music!).
So I'm finally going to settle for a Mac Book Air (or maybe Pro, who knows). That's the good news. The bad news: https://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/14/apples-15-ultra-thin-notebook-due-in-march-2012/ That rumour. Three more months for a better computer at the same price? (Also, my graduation ceremony is in March, so that could be a gift... hmmm... but I have already started my Masters Diploma Programme and I really need a computer! FUCK!!!!)
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Jeez Troy. Does Steve Jobs always have to be right? It's like you wish people would just stop reading just so you could prove Steve Jobs was right about something else, even if that something was just another one of his of his many arrogant and empty dismissals of things he never understood.
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HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE GENIUS THAT IS STEVE JOBS!!!!
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I feel like you guys and him thrive off each other. You guys can keep mocking tj and making inflammatory comments about Jobs and Apple to which he can continue to offer ridiculous and overblown defenses. It's like the circle jerk that wasn't. :lol
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Jeez Troy. Does Steve Jobs always have to be right? It's like you wish people would just stop reading just so you could prove Steve Jobs was right about something else, even if that something was just another one of his of his many arrogant and empty dismissals of things he never understood.
WTF? I said a few posts ago that of course Steve Jobs wasn't always right. Nobody is perfect. I then cited an example of when he was wrong about something.
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I feel like you guys and him thrive off each other. You guys can keep mocking tj and making inflammatory comments about Jobs and Apple to which he can continue to offer ridiculous and overblown defenses. It's like the circle jerk that wasn't. :lol
Welcome to the underlying framework of 99% of the Internet.
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No
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https://youtu.be/ljFhv2L4XYg (https://youtu.be/ljFhv2L4XYg)
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Cooler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN6wy0keQqo&feature=player_embedded
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Funnier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yLuqCXXutY
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FunniEST: https://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone
(possibly NSFW)
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I used to own the E70 :lol
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Browsing DTF on my brand new iTouch while listening to ITPOE! :metal
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Browsing DTF on my brand new iTouch while listening to ITPOE! :metal
Part 1 or 2?
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So is iTunes Match basically like Spotify?
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So is iTunes Match basically like Spotify?
not really even close.
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Browsing DTF on my brand new iTouch while listening to ITPOE! :metal
Part 1 or 2?
Was the Pt. 2 when I posted I listened, started with Pt. 1
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(https://cdn2.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/11/afterbreak9to5.png)
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/23/apples-2011-black-friday-discounts-for-ipad-2-macbook-air-macbook-pro-imac-and-more/
9to5Mac reveals the prices for Apple's 2011 Black Friday sales. The discounts are in line with last year's prices, with only modest discounts on the company's products. Price drops for Apple's core products are as follows:
iPad 2 - $41 to $61 Off
iPod nano - $11 off
iPod Touch - $21 to $41 off
MacBook Air - $101 off
MacBook Pro - $101 off
iMac - $101 off
Meanwhile, 3rd party accessories are also seeing some small discounts ranging from $11-$101.95 in savings for accessories such as iPad Smart Covers, iPhone battery packs and external hard drives.
These prices should be available for both online and local retail Apple store locations. For those who were planning to purchase from Apple retail anyway, it makes sense to wait until Friday. Customers eligible for Apple's educational pricing on Macs may also want to compare prices, as some models have better standard educational pricing while others have better Black Friday pricing.
For those looking for more savings, other online retailers frequently have their own Black Friday sales on Apple products as well. Depending on your location, those other online retailers may provide the added advantage of not charging sales tax on online orders. Apple's online store does charge local sales tax on all orders when applicable.
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Is it fake? I still lol'd, good pun.
(https://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/tell-me-a-holocaust-joke-siri-wtf.jpg)
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Apple's Siri vs Microsoft's Tell-Me
Apparently, Tell-Me doesn't support Australian accents. Sorry, Blob.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=SHoukZpMhDE
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Apple's Siri vs Microsoft's Tell-Me
Apparently, Tell-Me doesn't support Australian accents. Sorry, Blob.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=SHoukZpMhDE
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
What a joke Tell me is. Are they KIDDING?
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And Siri hates the Japanese, so both are racists! :lol
But that "teen anal" thing, just priceless!!! :rollin :rollin
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From what I've heard, Siri really struggles with Scottish accents as well.
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Siri struggles with my friend who has an east London accent. I'm pretty sure all voice command systems will have an issue with not understanding people.
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Get t' fuck pal
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One of my friends in London who's a massive Apple fanboy said Siri is pretty much just useless gimmick - the only thing he uses for is to set his alarm :lol
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Useless gimmick? Ok. I guess using it every day for most tasks counts as useless. I use it literally every day.
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Useless gimmick? Ok. I guess using it every day for most tasks counts as useless. I use it literally every day.
Like driving to work, making lunch, playing a game, watching a movie, or putting up a Christmas tree? Most tasks don't involve the phone; a minority of them do.
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All I am telling you is that I use it daily and would hate not to have it. It's like anything, once you get used to new tech you wondered how you lived without it.
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Useless gimmick? Ok. I guess using it every day for most tasks counts as useless. I use it literally every day.
Consider their perspective. It does not recognize Sigz's friend's voice, who lives in London. Based on what others have said, I reckon Sigz's friend has other friends in London who may be having the same problem.
So what does this lead them to believe? That it is their fault, and this wonderful program they cannot even use is not working on their error?
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I wish I had Siri on my iPad.
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Ok so the drama since yesterday has been an app released in the app store called iTether which allows free lifetime tethering. The app was a onetime fee of 15 bucks. It immediately went to number 1 in the app store. Apparently Apple had asked for a demo of it before approving it so they knew exactly what they were doing when they approved it. I thought this was awesome of them to let this app through and give the people what should be free anyway instead of getting robbed by the networks. Especially now that iPhone data is now capped on ATT and Verizon.
Anyway ATT/Verizon must have flipped and Apple caved in and removed it today. Here is an article about it...
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/29/tether-says-apple-pulled-itether-app-over-carrier-burden/
but reading the comments I came across this. This has to be the biggest failure of a forum post ever written.
"I bet it was pulled cause Jobs got mad. How could an app this useful make it in the app store?"
link... https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1284043
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What do you mean "free tethering"?
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You buy the app and from there on you can share your Internet with your computer or iPad via USB.
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You buy the app and from there on you can share your Internet with your computer or iPad via USB.
I see. I'd bet anything that the network providers had everything to do with that.
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"I bet it was pulled cause Jobs got mad. "
That's probably the reason.
COULDN'T BE THAT MOBILE PHONE CARRIERS ARE ALL DICKS...COULD IT?!
We're slightly better off in the UK (no tethering charges for a start) BUT THEY STILL SUCK
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I'd be cool with paying $7.99 a month to turn my phone into a mobile hot spot, $19.99 is not worth it to me. I don't understand why it's so expensive to begin with. The data is already getting transferred to my phone, is it really that much more to transmit it to my ipad?
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I have free tethering and didn't even had to pay for an app. :)
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I'd be cool with paying $7.99 a month to turn my phone into a mobile hot spot, $19.99 is not worth it to me. I don't understand why it's so expensive to begin with. The data is already getting transferred to my phone, is it really that much more to transmit it to my ipad?
The only reason: mobile carriers want to rip you off.
JAILBREAK YOUR PHONE (let's you tether for free)
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I'd be cool with paying $7.99 a month to turn my phone into a mobile hot spot, $19.99 is not worth it to me. I don't understand why it's so expensive to begin with. The data is already getting transferred to my phone, is it really that much more to transmit it to my ipad?
The only reason: mobile carriers want to rip you off.
JAILBREAK YOUR PHONE (let's you tether for free)
But I feel like they'd make more money at a cheaper price
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They shouldn't be making money from tethering at all.
It's daylight robbery.
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They shouldn't be making money from tethering at all.
It's daylight robbery.
This. They're basically charging for something they are already charging you for!
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The data is already getting transferred to my phone, is it really that much more to transmit it to my ipad?
It costs nothing more. The transfer from phone to ipad is entirely done by the phone, they have nothing to do with it. Charging for tethering is a scam, pure and simple. It's the equivalent of your ISP charging you to turn your laptop into an ad-hoc network.
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I also rooted my phone to tether for free, but the reality is that it DOES cost more. I've compared my data usage using just my phone and tethering to a laptop. It was at least a 10 fold increase in data transfer. There are a variety of factors that contribute to this I think, but the fact remains, while you're still using the same line you're paying for, you're putting a much larger strain on their network. How else would they be able to tell that you're tethering vs. simply using your phone?
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I also rooted my phone to tether for free, but the reality is that it DOES cost more. I've compared my data usage using just my phone and tethering to a laptop. It was at least a 10 fold increase in data transfer. There are a variety of factors that contribute to this I think, but the fact remains, while you're still using the same line you're paying for, you're putting a much larger strain on their network. How else would they be able to tell that you're tethering vs. simply using your phone?
Why would it matter? If you're paying for unlimited data, you're paying for unlimited data. If you're not, then you're going to be paying more simply from the additional data use.
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They shouldn't be making money from tethering at all.
It's daylight robbery.
Aye.
I have been using that other OS since the end of 2009. I downloaded PDAnet shortly after, and paid the one time charge of $19.99 on my honeymoon for access to secure sites. Sure as heck beat the $10 a day charge for WiFi at the upper end hotels.
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I also rooted my phone to tether for free, but the reality is that it DOES cost more. I've compared my data usage using just my phone and tethering to a laptop. It was at least a 10 fold increase in data transfer. There are a variety of factors that contribute to this I think, but the fact remains, while you're still using the same line you're paying for, you're putting a much larger strain on their network. How else would they be able to tell that you're tethering vs. simply using your phone?
Why would it matter? If you're paying for unlimited data, you're paying for unlimited data. If you're not, then you're going to be paying more simply from the additional data use.
True, and that's why I don't feel guilty rooting my phone and getting a free mobile hotspot. From their standpoint though, the term "Unlimited Data" was used when the ONLY way to access the network was through their device. The carrier had a realistic expectation for the amount of bandwidth would be used. Once phones had the capability of sharing their connection, they had to figure out a way to recoup the extra cost. Some may argue it's too much, and I'd agree. But the basic premise for their reasoning can't be overlooked. Besides, I think the real crime is the amount they charge for texting. The cost/bandwidth ratio is so much higher than even the most outrageous tethering plan.
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How else would they be able to tell that you're tethering vs. simply using your phone?
https://www.tradetechsports.com/how-does-att-know-you-are-tethering/
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How else would they be able to tell that you're tethering vs. simply using your phone?
https://www.tradetechsports.com/how-does-att-know-you-are-tethering/
Interesting read, thanks! It also says that they can't determine whether an Android phone is tethering or not because it does use the same APN. I wonder if the situation is similar with Verizon.
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why is there news about steve jobs dead in the thread title, old news???!
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I'll keep it like that, at least for 2011, thank you.
I've read Zeraphex posts and they seem not to contribute much to DTF.
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Obvious troll is obvious.
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why is there news about steve jobs dead in the thread title, old news???!
...dude
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Well, that was quick.
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Oh dear people reported that? Come on...
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Oh dear people reported that? Come on...
Have you read the rest of his posts? Go on, take a look.
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Oh OK, I had no idea. :lol
Nice song he posted BTW.
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This has been getting some likes on Facebook. Our gym teacher did our chapel today discussing the importance we place on figures in the world when it should be placed on God. Religion aside, its well known that the teacher resembles Steve Jobs, today, he acknowledged it. I took this this morning with my iPhone 4S
(https://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380392_2275315405511_1327484136_31930159_680017991_n.jpg)
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Siri has got a little something for the haters it seems at the end! :rollin
https://youtu.be/qLScccenNaE (https://youtu.be/qLScccenNaE)
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https://www.macrumors.com/2011/12/22/amd-announces-new-mac-pro-suitable-radeon-hd-7970-graphics-card/
Earlier this month, we noted that developer builds of OS X 10.7.3 were showing evidence of AMD's forthcoming "Tahiti" graphics card family, the first to be built using 28-nanometer technology.
(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/12/amd_radeon_hd_7970.jpg)
In the wake of those findings, AMD today officially announced the high-end Radeon HD 7970 from the Tahiti line, billing it as the world's fastest single-chip graphics card.
With the arrival of the AMD Radeon HD 7970, AMD has unleashed its revolutionary new Graphics Core Next Architecture that enables new levels of gaming and compute capabilities – realizing an improvement of over 150% in performance/sq mm over the prior generation. Engineered with support for PCI Express 3.0 and AMD CrossFire technology, the AMD Radeon HD 7970 graphics card arrives prepared for the next level of gaming.
Engadget has a nice roundup of reviews of the new card, with testers generally reporting significantly improved performance over the current generation of equivalent AMD cards and other high-end competitors such as NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 580. On the negative side, reviews cited the card's $549 price tag and significant noise under high load.
The Radeon HD 7970 will launch on January 9th, and AMD is also reported to be preparing to launch a slightly scaled-down model in the form of a Radeon HD 7950 card.
With new Xeon processors from Intel launching in the first quarter of 2012 and AMD's new graphics card offerings lining up for a January launch, parts do appear to be coming together for a significant upgrade for the Mac Pro, which has not been updated since July 2010.
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I love how the article shows a desktop card when talking about a mobile card. :lol
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Mobile card?
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Laptop.
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A Mac Pro is a desktop computer.
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I read Macbook Pro. :facepalm: Carry on.
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Yeah I thought so upon re-reading. I sometimes have that too. :lol
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Free version of Log Me In released.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/logmein/id479229407?mt=8
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Untethered Jailbreak 5.0.1 for up to iPhone 4 is available, https://www.iclarified.com/
https://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=18991 (Mac)
https://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=18989 (Windows)
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No thanks.
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Free version of Log Me In released.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/logmein/id479229407?mt=8 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/logmein/id479229407?mt=8)
BIG BIG BIG honking piece of shit. Do not install. It's got bugs upon bugs. I've already had to remove it from 5 iPhones here in my office. The PRO version (PAID version) is stable, this one is not.
Sorry, TJ, I know you were just trying to be helpful. But so am I :)
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Good, I've never used it but saw that it was free so I wanted to pass the info along. If it's not any good then screw it.
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Fellow iPad owners I have been wrecking my brains and the internet for the last couple of days trying to find out how to play songs from my laptop itunes on my iPad, what this guy explains what I want here (https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-use-home-sharing-2011-3#using-itunes-102-and-ios-43-navigate-to-the-advanced-tab-within-itunes-and-click-turn-on-home-sharing-then-tap-settings-on-your-device-and-navigate-to-the-ipod-settings-enter-in-your-apple-id-as-you-did-on-your-computer-1) but it doesn't work nor does the menus even look like that on my itunes both on the laptop and on the iPad.
To be clear; I just wanna be able to listen to music on my iPad wirelessly from my laptop instead of putting the music on the iPad. Inside the house of course.
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Siri has got a little something for the haters it seems at the end! :rollin
https://youtu.be/qLScccenNaE (https://youtu.be/qLScccenNaE)
This is awesome. I never knew Siri was a hood rat.
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Fellow iPad owners I have been wrecking my brains and the internet for the last couple of days trying to find out how to play songs from my laptop itunes on my iPad, what this guy explains what I want here (https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-use-home-sharing-2011-3#using-itunes-102-and-ios-43-navigate-to-the-advanced-tab-within-itunes-and-click-turn-on-home-sharing-then-tap-settings-on-your-device-and-navigate-to-the-ipod-settings-enter-in-your-apple-id-as-you-did-on-your-computer-1) but it doesn't work nor does the menus even look like that on my itunes both on the laptop and on the iPad.
To be clear; I just wanna be able to listen to music on my iPad wirelessly from my laptop instead of putting the music on the iPad. Inside the house of course.
Just use the remote app made by apple it's free and works great.
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Remote will let you use your device as a remote, so the music will still play on your computer. I have no idea how to have it play on your device instead, but it's a very good question!
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Exactly, what I want is almost the opposite of what this app does. It seems like it's possible according to the guy I posted the link to on my previous post.
I might go down to the Apple store tomorrow and ask the people over there although I doubt they would know.
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https://iphone.appstorm.net/reviews/music/stream-music-from-your-computer-to-your-iphone-with-wifi2hifi/
this seems like it could work, it's not free though.
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For .99$ it's not bad, I'll read more on it and see. Thanks Ruben :)
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I use VLC Streamer for video, I guess it works for audio too and it's free.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vlc-streamer/id410031728?mt=8
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Pretty cool, how's it working out for you? Do you just get a duplicate screen of what plays on your laptop or can you open and close files? Is it limited to mp4?
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I haven't really used it that much, I've just watched a couple of movies in my IPad when at home. It doesn't open any window in the computer, you just run the program and leave it there in the background, acting like a sort of server daemon. Then you can open the app in the IPad and see the files in your computer (as in a file browser), select one file and the streaming quality and just start watching.
I'm not home until the weekend but if you want more details let me know and when I get home I'll try it with music to see if it works and how comfortable it is.
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Trying the free version now, pretty good! Let's you choose the streaming bandwidth/quality too.
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The VLC Streams works great for me! It's does what I wanted. And if you could live with an ad bar at the bottom of the iPad screen; you can use the free version and do everything the full version does.
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AppleApple announces iBooks 2, a 'new textbook experience for the iPad' and iTunes U App. They are aiming towards improving education. Cool.
https://www.theverge.com/2012/1/19/2718324/apple-announces-textbook-deals
https://www.engadget.com/2012/01/19/live-from-apples-education-event/
Video: https://www.apple.com/education/#video-textbooks
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I think this is a brilliant move by Apple. I know a lot of people think this is absurd, and that it won't work because you are adding the cost of an iPad to the cost of books, but I am sure Apple has thought of that. Apple has been gaining ground in the computer industry at a rediculous pace. I am sure the cost to Apple to put iPads in the hand of a few hundred thousands kids (assuming they go that route) will be far outweighed by the revenue generated by their customer loyalty in the future. It is inevitable that education will be done digitally within the coming decades. This might not show promise within the next few years, but by Apple being the first out of the gate will put them at a huge advantage later on.
I use my iPad for a lot of things. I manage my schedule as well as every assignment that I am responsible for. I use it to take notes, do research, and type up papers. I use it as a Spanish dictionary, financial calculator, data logger, etc... My biggest problem with it is that professors give me shit for having it out all the time. I'm sorry that I don't want to spend 40 dollars on notebooks and can just as easily take notes on my "toy". I lost my graphing calculator and have an app that is a million times easier to use at a fraction of the price. I can understand them being iffy on my use of it during an exam, let's face it, I could basically ace any exam for any class if I were allowed to use it, but to not let me have it out during lecture in fear I am on Facebook is just annoying.
If Apple does go the route of distributing them to schools, they are going to have to release an education version with a modified OS. Something that gives teachers easy control over what the device can be being used for. That's how all the digital classroom are on my college campus. A professor can see anyone's screen at any time, and restrict the class as a whole to limited access.
The biggest problem I see with this is the teachers and professors themselves. I have college professors that still can't understand what a domain for log in is, or how to save files to a flash drive. One professor said he did not have a syllabus for us because he couldn't figure out how to use the newest addition of Word. Give it another decade, once many of the technology illiterate faculty start getting phased out, and you will see stuff like this really take off.
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More than anything else I'm resistant to the idea simply because reading a textbook on an LCD screen sucks massive cock. E-readers make infinitely more sense for this application.
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iTunes question?
On my old pc when I plugged in a device (no matter phone, or pad) I could drag and drop things from my iTunes library onto the device. Now, I get a black circle no-no and can't.
HELP.
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More than anything else I'm resistant to the idea simply because reading a textbook on an LCD screen sucks massive cock. E-readers make infinitely more sense for this application.
ROFL, good one.
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I don't see anything wrong with what Sigz said.
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If you're talking about just transferring text from the books to the screen, sure, e-readers are great. I have several classmates in my Masters program doing just that. Better for your eyes and just as convenient.
The difference here is the ability to interact with media. You can't really do that with an e-reader.
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I don't see anything wrong with what Sigz said.
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I'm curious how long the $15 price is going to last, the $.99 song didn't last too long.
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I bet Sigz doesn't have an iPad yet he comments on it like he does. Also i've been using my iPad since march for school work virtually every day. I've done book reports, taken notes and have read numerous books on it. The idea that in the future i can get my textbooks on it as well will be amazing. Just one device to bring everywhere. Anyway reading on it is great especially in sepia. Also i love being able to highlight and take notes for doing reports, very helpful.
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I'm not talking about the ipad, I'm talking about LCD screens in general. They're simply not pleasant to read on.
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Is there other way to see the Keynote differently from the Apple website? Quicktime sucks COCK. It's *sigh*
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Maybe if you hack your computer so you can take out Quicktime :neverusethis:
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I think there are some alternative Quicktime players out there that let you play all the Quicktime stuff but it's all open source.
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I'm not talking about the ipad, I'm talking about LCD screens in general. They're simply not pleasant to read on.
I get what you are saying. I'm the guy who knows that his vision has deteriorated since the day he started to play for hours in front of a television screen and now spends insanely amount of time in front of a monitor (laptop display). I use an e-reader to read as well as books and for long period of hours, and taking into account one never uses the proper amount of light etc., my eye-sight is still going down.
However, concerning solely with LCD displays, how much will it help in the long run if the iPad 3 implements the Retina Display (or maybe a higher resolution?) to its screen. Will the eye will not get tired as quickly? (Yeah, I remember my ophthalmologist telling me to remember to blink, one simply does not do it when reading on a screen.)
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I find that by keeping my brightness on the lowest setting (most of the time), my eyes never feel strained.
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I find that by keeping my brightness on the lowest setting (most of the time), my eyes never feel strained.
I don't know about the iPads, but the latest iPhones have damn bright screens, and I wouldn't want to read on that at full brightness for an extended period of time. I only have an old iPod Touch and I keep the screen on the lowest brightness, so I haven't noticed any problems. Not practical for outdoors, but I only stay indoors anyway.
There are many variables to eye strain though.
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Apparently the distributors agreement for their ebook authoring program is insanely fascist:
The nightmare scenario under this agreement? You create a great work of staggering literary genius that you think you can sell for 5 or 10 bucks per copy. You craft it carefully in iBooks Author. You submit it to Apple. They reject it.
Under this license agreement, you are out of luck. They won’t sell it, and you can’t legally sell it elsewhere. You can give it away, but you can’t sell it.
However, concerning solely with LCD displays, how much will it help in the long run if the iPad 3 implements the Retina Display (or maybe a higher resolution?) to its screen. Will the eye will not get tired as quickly? (Yeah, I remember my ophthalmologist telling me to remember to blink, one simply does not do it when reading on a screen.)
Well, the retina display as it stands now is still bullshit, but either way, the resolution is only part of the problem. Backlighting is a mjaor issue as well.
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A bigger issue is that while books are only $15, they're registered to the student not the iPad. So as each year rolls around a new user account must be created. This makes the 5 year cost of a digital book the same $75 as the 5 year lifespan of a printed copy.
I don't think many books will be rejected by Apple though. If they want this to take off, they need as many publishers and subjects to make this a viable option for schools.
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I don't think many books will be rejected by Apple though. If they want this to take off, they need as many publishers and subjects to make this a viable option for schools.
The bigger issue is that you can't sell it on any other platforms. What's the point in taking all the time to format an ebook in iBook author when you're going to have to do it all over again in another program if you want to sell on another platform?
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True, but that doesn't sound much different than developing games for different consoles. Besides, Apple seems to be the only player in this market right now.
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If I buy an iPhone 4 with AT&T in the US and move to France permanently would I still be able to tie it with a French carrier contract or would I need to buy a Verizon one?
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I thought that this was pretty cool.
https://money.cnn.com/video/technology/2012/01/23/t-ts-kogeto-apple.cnnmoney/
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That is cool indeed.
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Is it possible to view a Windows notepad .txt file on ipad or do I have to convert it to something else?
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The problem with the ipad is that properties of the display that make it a good touch screen interface (high gloss, bright) also make it crap for reading.
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Beatdown Hazard
COOL APP!!
It's like asteroids, better graphics, takes your iPod, or iPhone music and creates levels based on the intensity of the song. Photostrobe effects may cause seizures.
So far: A Nightmare To Remember - DreamTheater (holy INTENSE)
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Is it possible to view a Windows notepad .txt file on ipad or do I have to convert it to something else?
You can view TXT files.
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I'm really looking forward to the iPad3 announcement. If it's a good enough upgrade, I plan on buying one. My mom is dying to get an iPad. If this new one is good enough, I'll sell her my iPad2 for like $200 or $250, then buy the third edition.
My wishlist for iPad3
- Better cameras (I skype a lot)
- Higher resolution
- A faster processor and better graphics
- A wireless game controller with at least 12 buttons
- A USB port that will read files off of, and save to a flash drive
I predict Apple will get into the console war without having to release a system. If they could make an iPad with enough power to contend with the 360 or PS3, they could do it with ease. With a wireless controller and an Apple TV unit, you could play on a big screen. I've never used an iPad through an Apple TV, is there lag? If so they would have to resolve that. Not to mention the fact you could game on the go. I think it would be sweet if you and a few buddies had iPads and could all congregate and game together. Kind of like the LAN parties I used to attend way back in the day. Except now I wouldn't need to lug a huge tower and a monitor around with me.
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My wishlist for iPad3
- A wireless game controller with at least 12 buttons
- A USB port that will read files off of, and save to a flash drive
Dude, we all know that this is not going to happen :lol
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My wishlist for iPad3
- A wireless game controller with at least 12 buttons
- A USB port that will read files off of, and save to a flash drive
Dude, we all know that this is not going to happen :lol
I don't understand why a gaming controller would be so hard to imagine, not to mention I think it would be a brilliant move by Apple. I got GTAIII for 5 bucks, and it is amazing. It runs better than it did on my PS2, the only problem is the touch screen controls can make it a bitch to play. I have apps that already allow me to use my iPod as a game controller. It's pretty sweet, but the lack of tacticle feedback really blows.
A USB port, while unlikely, would also be a great move by Apple. They are marketing it as a tablet computer. I can't consider it that until I can import and export media with ease. I hate having to email everything and hosting a million images on imageshack.
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Lots of things have already been "confirmed" Like it will be a quad processor. It will have retina display (which will be insane.) Also it's been confirmed that it will be 4g LTE.
I just hope that will the retina display and LTE the battery won't suffer too much. I LOVE that about my ipad2. Battery lasts so long!
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The iPad is not, primarily, a gaming device. So if you want a controller you'll need to get it (like this one https://www.touchplaytap.com/ which I guess you'll love) from a third party.
Apple is aiming at their own Thunderbolt port, not the USB port. So... even if I still think it is very unlikely that Thunderbolt will appear on the iPad 3 they would go first with this option rather than a USB port.
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The iPad is not, primarily, a gaming device. So if you want a controller you'll need to get it (if available) from a third party.
I can't see Apple not acknowledging it as a gaming device. There are thousands of games on the app store that rake in tons of money. A controller would convince me to buy $30+ titles, not all this $1.99 crap. I feel like it would be foolish of them to not implement a controller specifically for gaming. They would make bank off of the hardware sales, as well as the money generated in the app store.
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Their are controllers out there though. Why do you need one from Apple? I highly doubt they would make a gaming controller themselves. Not their style.
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Their are controllers out there though. Why do you need one from Apple? I highly doubt they would make a gaming controller themselves. Not their style.
I couldn't find any that didn't require jail breaking. Even if they made it easy accept thrid party controllers, I'd be perfectly happy with that.
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The iPad is not, primarily, a gaming device. So if you want a controller you'll need to get it (https://www.touchplaytap.com/) from a third party.
I can't see Apple not acknowledging it as a gaming device. There are thousands of games on the app store that rake in tons of money. A controller would convince me to buy $30+ titles, not all this $1.99 crap. I feel like it would be foolish of them to not implement a controller specifically for gaming. They would make bank off of the hardware sales, as well as the money generated in the app store.
Primarily it is not. Check my edit and see if that helps what you need.
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The iPad is not, primarily, a gaming device. So if you want a controller you'll need to get it (https://www.touchplaytap.com/) from a third party.
I can't see Apple not acknowledging it as a gaming device. There are thousands of games on the app store that rake in tons of money. A controller would convince me to buy $30+ titles, not all this $1.99 crap. I feel like it would be foolish of them to not implement a controller specifically for gaming. They would make bank off of the hardware sales, as well as the money generated in the app store.
Primarily it is not. Check my edit and see if that helps what you need.
But I don't want screen attachments. I don't want to have to hold the iPad at all. I want something that results in me knowing where my fingers are at all times, with pressure sensitivity.
Their are controllers out there though. Why do you need one from Apple? I highly doubt they would make a gaming controller themselves. Not their style.
I don't need one from Apple per say, but an Apple one would work flawlessly with their devices. Who's to say what their style is. They are a company that would do anything if it would make them enough money. You couldn't call Apple a television company, but if they were to release one, it wouldn't be that big of a surprise. Fifteen years ago, if you said Apple would have the most popular cel lphone in the year 2012, people would have said you were nuts. Apple knows what people want, and what they will use. If two or three years from now the 16-25 age group is dominated my iPads rather than Laptops or Computers, I can assure you they will value the gaming market greatly.
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Beatdown Hazard
COOL APP!!
It's like asteroids, better graphics, takes your iPod, or iPhone music and creates levels based on the intensity of the song. Photostrobe effects may cause seizures.
So far: A Nightmare To Remember - DreamTheater (holy INTENSE)
I searched for Beatdown Hazard in app store and didn't find it. :(
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I strongly disagree that they would make anything if they though it would make them money. Their are a million things they could make that people would buy but the have a very specific plan and style when it comes to their products. It is the "Apple" way. It's one of the things that makes them unique. Some people don't like the Apple way and that's fine but apparently a hell of a lot of people do.
Anyway, just going by their track record... making a gaming controller doesn't seem like something they would do. One because they don't make many accessories for their products. They usually leave that up to third parties. Also it probably wouldn't work with a lot of games and people would be pissed because it would work with some and not others and they like to make products that work universally with their own stuff. This is why they usually leave that kind of stuff up to third parties.
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It's mindblowing to me that the ipad has yet to get a USB port.
Beatdown Hazard
COOL APP!!
It's like asteroids, better graphics, takes your iPod, or iPhone music and creates levels based on the intensity of the song. Photostrobe effects may cause seizures.
So far: A Nightmare To Remember - DreamTheater (holy INTENSE)
I searched for Beatdown Hazard in app store and didn't find it. :(
I'm pretty sure it's called Beat Hazard.
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It is.
That game destroys my eyes.
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sorry..my bad...close enough.
Yes.
It's an eye destroyer for sure. They have visual settings...75% - 100% - and 150%(WTF!)
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Yeah, I can only play it for a few songs before I have to shut it off.
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Also it probably wouldn't work with a lot of games and people would be pissed because it would work with some and not others and they like to make products that work universally with their own stuff. This is why they usually leave that kind of stuff up to third parties.
Well that's just something users will have to deal with. There are many apps that don't run well on the original iPad, but run perfectly on the iPad2. If Apple came out with a controller, the market would cater to it, believe me. Every game update and every new title will be designed with that in mind.
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This is exactly what I want, but with way better graphics, dual analog sticks, and atleast 4 triggers.
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It's mindblowing to me that the ipad has yet to get a USB port.
Well, yeah, you're right, there's no USB port on the iPad or iPad2, but you can actually use the Camera Connection Kit (https://www.apple.com/ipad/accessories/)as a USB adapter and there's lots of stuff you can connect with it (https://www.pcworld.com/article/195013/ipad_camera_connection_kit_connects_other_things_too.html), not just your camera.
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It's mindblowing to me that the ipad has yet to get a USB port.
Well, yeah, you're right, there's no USB port on the iPad or iPad2, but you can actually use the Camera Connection Kit (https://www.apple.com/ipad/accessories/)as a USB adapter and there's tons of stuff you can connect with it (https://www.pcworld.com/article/195013/ipad_camera_connection_kit_connects_other_things_too.html), not just your camera.
Even taking that into account, I agree with Sigz. It is crazy that anything claiming to be a legitimate computing device (or an alternative) lacks the most basic of connections that has been standard on every single computer and laptop since the late '90s.
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crazy? Maybe.
It's Apple. You can draw a straight line from the reason they do things directly to the massive pile of cash they're sitting on :lol
I'd love a USB port on my iPad, but it's not killing me that it doesn't have one.
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It's mindblowing to me that the ipad has yet to get a USB port.
Well, yeah, you're right, there's no USB port on the iPad or iPad2, but you can actually use the Camera Connection Kit (https://www.apple.com/ipad/accessories/)as a USB adapter and there's tons of stuff you can connect with it (https://www.pcworld.com/article/195013/ipad_camera_connection_kit_connects_other_things_too.html), not just your camera.
Yeah, but I don't want to have to carry around an extra wire connector all day in the event I need it. I want all the capabilities of a flash drive in a PC to be the same in my iPad.
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I'm just curious as to what you really need it for though since iCloud has come out there is less a need for a physical device. Also you can use drop box with it.
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The reason is because carrying 32GB of data, music, movies, files, etc. is faster and more convenient than waiting for a cloud service to sync, especially if you're in an area where you're unable to connect (No Wifi or 3G).
They're never going to add this functionality for several reasons:
Potential for piracy
Requiring the user to manage storage options/Giving user too much control
All models are priced with respect to their storage size, this would eliminate multiple price points
Lack of physical room (could use an adapter, but that would be a hassle with flash drives)
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The reason is because carrying 32GB of data, music, movies, files, etc. is faster and more convenient than waiting for a cloud service to sync, especially if you're in an area where you're unable to connect (No Wifi or 3G).
They're never going to add this functionality for several reasons:
Potential for piracy
Requiring the user to manage storage options/Giving user too much control
All models are priced with respect to their storage size, this would eliminate multiple price points
Lack of physical room (could use an adapter, but that would be a hassle with flash drives)
I would be perfectly happy with just larger hard drive for cheaper prices. My iPad is only 16 gig, and that is far too small. I couldn't get myself to spend $700 for the 64 gig. I not an expert on the topic, but is hard drive space really that expensive? If I could get even a 32 gig for the price of a current 16 gig, or a 64 gig for $600, I'd buy one in a second without being upset about not having additional storage options.
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Apple is notorious for hideously overcharging for hard drives.
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Apple is notorious for hideously overcharging for hard drives.
I know, but they'll have to give more for less eventually, it happened with the iPods.
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Keep in mind this is solid state memory, not hard disk drives.
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The reason is because carrying 32GB of data, music, movies, files, etc. is faster and more convenient than waiting for a cloud service to sync, especially if you're in an area where you're unable to connect (No Wifi or 3G).
They're never going to add this functionality for several reasons:
Potential for piracy
Requiring the user to manage storage options/Giving user too much control
All models are priced with respect to their storage size, this would eliminate multiple price points
Lack of physical room (could use an adapter, but that would be a hassle with flash drives)
This. Getting data onto these devices either requires funneling everything through Apple somehow, either through iTunes/iCloud, or some roundabout method of emailing or storing online. Not a single one of these methods is as simple and convenient as just sticking files on a USB stick. And Fiery Wind's reasons are exactly why Apple don't want it simple and convenient. Because then people would use it to avoid some or all of Apple's restrictive practices.
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I'm currently jail breaking my iPad as I type this. I have never JB'd anything before. Fingers crossed!!
*edit* SUCCESS! (I think)
now time for my pokemans
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Fun fact: Jay Freeman, the guy who develops Cydia, lives like three blocks away from me. I met him at a reddit meetup last year.
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Nice, I can't quite figure Cydia out. I'm afraid to download anything lol
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Keep in mind this is solid state memory, not hard disk drives.
SSD isn't exactly ground breaking technology anymore. There's just no way to justify Apple's pricetag.
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Keep in mind this is solid state memory, not hard disk drives.
SSD isn't exactly ground breaking technology anymore. There's just no way to justify Apple's pricetag.
Everything Apple sells is ridiculously overpriced. It's always been that way. And yet, they remain one of the most successful technology companies in history, if not THE most successful. Their new CEO made a comment the other day that I thought was interesting:
From this thing on CNN.com (https://www.cnn.com/2012/02/14/tech/innovation/apple-cook-china-plants/index.html?hpt=hp_bn6)
"Price is rarely the most important thing," he said. "A cheap product might sell some units. Then they get home and use it and the joy is gone."
The products really are quite elegant in design. And I have to be honest....I've tried a bunch of different tablets. I don't have to pay for them, my job buys them. It's part of my job to evaluate these products. I've had the Blackberry playbook, Archos9 PCTablet, HP Slate, Samsung Galaxy and one other one that slips my mind atm. I've gotta tell you, the iPad, even with its ridiculously proprietary interface and lack of USB connectivity is just a vastly superior device.
And the people who know me here know that I am no Apple fanboy. Apple fanboyism drives me nuts. But as a person who has objectively evaluated their products, I am really starting to understand why they enjoy such fierce customer loyalty. Their stuff is definitely premium quality. It's 100% undeniably proprietary, yes, but the quality is there....and that's a big part of why they get away with their absurdly high pricing model.
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Keep in mind this is solid state memory, not hard disk drives.
SSD isn't exactly ground breaking technology anymore. There's just no way to justify Apple's pricetag.
I agree, but there is still a large gap between prices of SSDs and disk drives so I wanted to make that distinction.
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Keep in mind this is solid state memory, not hard disk drives.
SSD isn't exactly ground breaking technology anymore. There's just no way to justify Apple's pricetag.
Everything Apple sells is ridiculously overpriced. It's always been that way. And yet, they remain one of the most successful technology companies in history, if not THE most successful. Their new CEO made a comment the other day that I thought was interesting:
From this thing on CNN.com (https://www.cnn.com/2012/02/14/tech/innovation/apple-cook-china-plants/index.html?hpt=hp_bn6)
"Price is rarely the most important thing," he said. "A cheap product might sell some units. Then they get home and use it and the joy is gone."
The products really are quite elegant in design. And I have to be honest....I've tried a bunch of different tablets. I don't have to pay for them, my job buys them. It's part of my job to evaluate these products. I've had the Blackberry playbook, Archos9 PCTablet, HP Slate, Samsung Galaxy and one other one that slips my mind atm. I've gotta tell you, the iPad, even with its ridiculously proprietary interface and lack of USB connectivity is just a vastly superior device.
And the people who know me here know that I am no Apple fanboy. Apple fanboyism drives me nuts. But as a person who has objectively evaluated their products, I am really starting to understand why they enjoy such fierce customer loyalty. Their stuff is definitely premium quality. It's 100% undeniably proprietary, yes, but the quality is there....and that's a big part of why they get away with their absurdly high pricing model.
I dunno, it's creating this notion that the most expensive automatically means the best quality. There are so many cheaper options that offer comparable product quality whether it be in user interface, durability or longevity. Just because there are a plethora of cheaper options doesn't mean they're all crap. It goes along with the mindset that your average consumer would hesitate before trying a free but very solid anti-virus software like Avast or MSE and instead drop $100 on Norton or similar because that pricetag means "I'm paying for something good and worth it".
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So how can I go about unjail breaking an iPad? I can't use Skype or my optimum online app anymore :'(
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:lol That was quick.
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So how can I go about unjail breaking an iPad? I can't use Skype or my optimum online app anymore :'(
Just hit restore in iTunes.
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Everything Apple sells is ridiculously overpriced.
It may not be the case anymore, but I remember reading when other tablets starting coming out after the first iPad was released that other companies were having a hard time meeting Apple's price point. Are there comparable tablets out there that are cheaper? I know there are smaller, more stripped down ones that are cheaper.
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Everything Apple sells is ridiculously overpriced.
It may not be the case anymore, but I remember reading when other tablets starting coming out after the first iPad was released that other companies were having a hard time meeting Apple's price point. Are there comparable tablets out there that are cheaper? I know there are smaller, more stripped down ones that are cheaper.
I just did a very quick check online for the store I go to, and there seem to be several that are at least comparable or better than the iPad on paper, and up to several hundred dollars cheaper.
Keep in mind that was only a rough check of processor, storage capacity, screen size/res, and basic capabilities of camera/wifi/3G, not a nitty gritty comparison of every little detail to see which would be the "better". But they didn't appear to be stripped down.
The alternative options seem to have fallen in line to be cheaper, as is the case with everything Apple does.
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Yeah the iPad was cheap in comparison when it came out but now other companies have caught up on both capabilities and price.
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Ah, but the convenience of the App store is amazing. And that's the whole point of an integral system. Sure, you will always have the guy who wants to build his system from scratch, choose every single detail, they want it tailor-made. They spend (I think waste) hours trying to choose, trying to find "the best" -in this case- tablet. I've tried to play with many, the Kindle Fire, Samsung and other ones which I don't know the brand, and what I can do with them if I'm a first time user? Not much. What can I do with an iPad if I'm a first time user? You know there's a store, you download a free high-rated game o app and you're done. Buying through the iTunes store is much more convenient than any other service available today. Shit, Apple took it out of the park (and two years ago I was criticizing it because I didn't know the potential of this product (with the integrity of its iOS.)
In the long run I think the iPad is still cheaper.
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What can I do with an iPad if I'm a first time user? You know there's a store, you download a free high-rated game o app and you're done. Buying through the iTunes store is much more convenient than any other service available today.
How is this different from any other tablet?
Also, you can use the Android Market website which automatically starts the app download on your phone/tablet.
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What can I do with an iPad if I'm a first time user? You know there's a store, you download a free high-rated game o app and you're done. Buying through the iTunes store is much more convenient than any other service available today.
How is this different from any other tablet?
Also, you can use the Android Market website which automatically starts the app download on your phone/tablet.
I also find the apple store to be vastly superior to the android marketplace.
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Not to say that the Apple marketplace isn't better than Android's but you also think that Avatar is vastly superior to pretty much every other movie out there.
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Not to say that the Apple marketplace isn't better than Android's but you also think that Avatar is vastly superior to pretty much every other movie out there.
That's just a cheap shot and a completely irrelevant point.
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:lol
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Not to say that the Apple marketplace isn't better than Android's but you also think that Avatar is vastly superior to pretty much every other movie out there.
That's just a cheap shot and a completely irrelevant point.
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Keep in mind this is solid state memory, not hard disk drives.
SSD isn't exactly ground breaking technology anymore. There's just no way to justify Apple's pricetag.
Everything Apple sells is ridiculously overpriced. It's always been that way. And yet, they remain one of the most successful technology companies in history, if not THE most successful. Their new CEO made a comment the other day that I thought was interesting:
From this thing on CNN.com (https://www.cnn.com/2012/02/14/tech/innovation/apple-cook-china-plants/index.html?hpt=hp_bn6)
"Price is rarely the most important thing," he said. "A cheap product might sell some units. Then they get home and use it and the joy is gone."
The products really are quite elegant in design. And I have to be honest....I've tried a bunch of different tablets. I don't have to pay for them, my job buys them. It's part of my job to evaluate these products. I've had the Blackberry playbook, Archos9 PCTablet, HP Slate, Samsung Galaxy and one other one that slips my mind atm. I've gotta tell you, the iPad, even with its ridiculously proprietary interface and lack of USB connectivity is just a vastly superior device.
And the people who know me here know that I am no Apple fanboy. Apple fanboyism drives me nuts. But as a person who has objectively evaluated their products, I am really starting to understand why they enjoy such fierce customer loyalty. Their stuff is definitely premium quality. It's 100% undeniably proprietary, yes, but the quality is there....and that's a big part of why they get away with their absurdly high pricing model.
I dunno, it's creating this notion that the most expensive automatically means the best quality. There are so many cheaper options that offer comparable product quality whether it be in user interface, durability or longevity. Just because there are a plethora of cheaper options doesn't mean they're all crap. It goes along with the mindset that your average consumer would hesitate before trying a free but very solid anti-virus software like Avast or MSE and instead drop $100 on Norton or similar because that pricetag means "I'm paying for something good and worth it".
The cost is what it is. It doesn't seem to be hurting Apple's sales one bit. And I think a big part of that is the quality of the products. They're not good because they're expensive. They're expensive because they're good. In my direct, hands-on experience using several tablets, nothing touches the iPad. That's a subjective opinion, sure, but it IS based on several months of using each of the ones I've mentioned.
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Everything Apple sells is ridiculously overpriced.
It may not be the case anymore, but I remember reading when other tablets starting coming out after the first iPad was released that other companies were having a hard time meeting Apple's price point. Are there comparable tablets out there that are cheaper? I know there are smaller, more stripped down ones that are cheaper.
The Samsung Galaxy Tab (https://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=12890186&cac=Result) was BY FAR the best thing I encountered compared to the iPad. Feature to feature and config to config, it's probably the closest competitor.
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What can I do with an iPad if I'm a first time user? You know there's a store, you download a free high-rated game o app and you're done. Buying through the iTunes store is much more convenient than any other service available today.
How is this different from any other tablet?
Also, you can use the Android Market website which automatically starts the app download on your phone/tablet.
I also find the apple store to be vastly superior to the android marketplace.
The thing with the Apple app store that makes it better is there is a LOT less buggy shit there than in the Android marketplace, which is kind of like the wild west of app stores. Apple is extremely constrictive in what they'll accept in that app store and I think that policy has served them well.
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https://www.loopinsight.com/2012/02/28/apple-announces-ipad-event-for-march-7-in-san-francisco/
Apple announces iPad event for March 7 in San Francisco
Posted on Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 at 9:05 am. PT
Written by Jim Dalrymple
As expected, Apple on Tuesday announced an event to show off the company’s next generation iPad. The invitation, sent to me by Apple, says the event will take place at 10:00 am on Wednesday, March 7, 2012 at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco.
While nobody knows for sure what changes the iPad 3 will have, it is widely expected the device will have a faster processor, improved graphics processor and a Retina Display.
I will be at the event and will publish a live update on The Loop.
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I want it.
Side note... Apple's market value now exceeds 500 billion dollars.... Apple is now worth more than Poland.
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From what I've heard of it, there's not much of an incentive to upgrade from an iPad2 so I'll be passing on the iPad3 until one of my vendors sends me a free one.
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How long until the next iPhone? I need to switch services.
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From what I've heard of it, there's not much of an incentive to upgrade from an iPad2 so I'll be passing on the iPad3 until one of my vendors sends me a free one.
But... but... it is an upgrade! The number at the end of the name is one greater than on the current version, thus making the current one obsolete! :justjen
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From what I've heard of it, there's not much of an incentive to upgrade from an iPad2 so I'll be passing on the iPad3 until one of my vendors sends me a free one.
But... but... it is an upgrade! The number at the end of the name is one greater than on the current version, thus making the current one obsolete! :justjen
:lol I know, right? One thing I AM going to upgrade pretty soon is my iPod. My niece had hers stolen from her car so I'm going to give her my 80GB iPod Classic and get myself a 64GB iPod Touch (4Gen) so I will be getting a new Apple toy here pretty soon, just not a new iPad.
Edit: By the way, it's kind of tripping me out to have Khan and Kirk conversing in such a nice way, so, um, er, well, BITE ME or something :P
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It hasn't even been announced yet! How do you know if it's worth an upgrade or not?
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If it has a faster processor and a better screen, I'm buying one for sure. I already have and offer of $300 for my current iPad2. The $200 dollar difference will easily be covered by what I got back in taxes this year. I use my iPad at least 5 hours a day. Over the course of the next year I'll only be spending 10 cents per hour of use. Thats pretty cheap entertainment when compared to other shit I have.
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Edit: By the way, it's kind of tripping me out to have Khan and Kirk conversing in such a nice way, so, um, er, well, BITE ME or something :P
I know, I always feel like replying to one of your posts even if I have nothing to say.
I already have and offer of $300 for my current iPad2. The $200 dollar difference will easily be covered by what I got back in taxes this year.
That makes sense, didn't occur to me what sort of secondary/used market there is for Apple's products. Seems like it should be huge with such a frequent turnover. I guess my implied question was Is a faster processor going to make hundreds of dollars of difference in whatever people use this for? Are people shouting 'Dammit, my iPad2 is just too damn slow!'
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It won't, but then again a lot of people will buy just because it says Apple.
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I just mainly want a newer screen. Fingers crossed for a larger one too!
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My brother has owned the two iterations of iPad and always gets the new one. He always sells the one he currently owns for a very good price. He says it is absolutely worthy to buy immediately the new one.
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The way I see it, due to Moore's law, each iPad will begin to be significatnly more powerful than the prior generation from a year earlier. If the iPad3 has a processor twice as fast as the second generation, it will have four times as much power as the first generation. I feel like we are soon going to see apps, mainly games, that will only be able to run well on the latest generation of iPad. Its not to hard to imagine that the iPad3 will be able to do things that the first iPad simply won't be able to do. I like to be on top of that curve.
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It hasn't even been announced yet! How do you know if it's worth an upgrade or not?
Because my iPad2 does everything I need it to do.
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/small-business/digital/biz-categories-technology/10-reasons-not-to-give-up-on-blackberry/article2354189/
some good points here.
just sayin....
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I wouldn't trust that article.
Mr. Levy
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Nothing can beat a good QWERTY keyboard.
To me that reason alone is reason enough to never get an iphone (or any other touch-only device). I fucking hate touch screens.
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get with the times grandpa
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GET OFF MY LAWN JOE
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I won't get phone without a physical keyboard because I'm afraid of touching the ghosts on the screen.
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Nothing can beat a good QWERTY keyboard.
To me that reason alone is reason enough to never get an iphone (or any other touch-only device). I fucking hate touch screens.
To me, having a killer screen outweighs any draw backs that come with a touch keyboard.
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I had a Blackberry for 5 years. I still support 130 of them, but we've already decided as a company that we're switching over to iPhones as the Blackberry phone contracts expire, mostly because -and I never thought I'd ever write this- the cost of using the Blackberry is much higher than the cost of using the iPhone. In an enterprise setting like ours, you have to have the Blackberry Enterprise Server and that means an extra piece of server hardware as well as the cost of licensing and support contracts each year. With the iPhone, we connect directly to our Microsoft Exchange server via IMAP. Bye bye Blackberry Enterprise Server. Savings to my company: About $6000 per year when you include software, support and the labor involved in maintaining the server.
As far as the keyboard goes, the only difference is it's not a mechanical keyboard. It's on-screen. But the layout is basically the same: QWERTY The adjustment was simple and I've gotta be honest, I've never been a big Apple fan, but they've won me over with the iPhone. There's no comparison to a Blackberry. The iPhone is a vastly superior smartphone.
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So... when will iphone 5 be released? Because I am going back and forth on purchasing a 4S or waiting for the 5 to come out.
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Saw videos or supposed iPad3 = full screen, no black bars, magnetic linking to another iPad... and then it showed holographic video game technology. No idea if this is legit.
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Saw videos or supposed iPad3 = full screen, no black bars, magnetic linking to another iPad... and then it showed holographic video game technology. No idea if this is legit.
:lol
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THE HOLODECK HAS ARRIVED
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:lol yeah I kinda figured the last part wasnt gonna happen. And the full screen doesn't leave space for the camera and button, so not sure that would happen either. The magnetic thing would be awesome though!
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:lol yeah I kinda figured the last part wasnt gonna happen. And the full screen doesn't leave space for the camera and button, so not sure that would happen either. The magnetic thing would be awesome though!
I'm pretty sure you'll find that the iPad 3 will be identical to the iPad 2 except with ever so slightly better specs a new hat.
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We don't even know of its going to be the ipad3. We could be looking at the iPad2S.
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We don't even know of its going to be the ipad3. We could be looking at the iPad2S.
Does the name really matter? Kind of trivial.
Although I'd assume if they're calling it the 2S it would be because it's not a big upgrade, which would support my prediction of a new hat.
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Nothing can beat a good QWERTY keyboard.
To me that reason alone is reason enough to never get an iphone (or any other touch-only device). I fucking hate touch screens.
I used to but you do get used to them after a while, though a physical keyboard is better obviously.
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The iPad 3 will come with an attached keyboard base, with additional hardware stored in the base to provide innovative new features and improved functionality, as well as disc playback and additional connection ports.
They've released this screenshot;
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It won't catch on.
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It won't catch on.
But wait! I think you'll change your mind once you see the back of it.
SPOILER ALERT
There's an Apple logo on it.
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...oh my God.
That sounds amazing. It'll help people know how much money I have.
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I got a Mac so that when I use Windows on it people will get confused and go "WTF"
And then I'm like yeah, I have two computers in one. Where's your God now?
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Nothing can beat a good QWERTY keyboard.
To me that reason alone is reason enough to never get an iphone (or any other touch-only device). I fucking hate touch screens.
What about haptic technology?
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It's still not the same, feedback when you hit a key is only one element of using a keyboard.
I'm sure I'd get used to it if I used one for an extended period of time, but I see no reason to when I can just have a keyboard.
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I see what you mean.
Yet again, we're still not sure if that kind of technology will be adopted by Apple. Though that part in the invitation that says "And touch" is quite intriguing.
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The "see and touch" is interesting. Maybe the "see" is to throw us a curve ball. Why would they emphasize on "see". We obviously see (literally) all their devices as they are. The new iPad doesn't really cover the "see" part. We have already seen the iPad, just not it's newest form. I'm hoping for an entirely new product, or at least a really new never before seen feature, something like a 3D display. Maybe the "see" hints at the speculated television that many people have talked about, some how integrating it's use through touch via all iDevices. I know many here disagree with me, but maybe the "touch" could be a peripheral for gaming. Perhaps this will be Apple's first step into the gaming industry with a "touch" controller.
Apple needs a huge event. This could potentially be their first big conference (not including iPhone 4S) in which something NEW iis unleashed on the world withough Steve Jobs as the deliverer. They need to make a statement that says "we are not just staying on top of the current market, but are here to dominate another one". That's were a TV would make sense. A powerful television, with access to the app store, that you could play quality multiplayer games on without a separate console would be AWESOME!
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The "see" thing could just be referencing the fancy new display they've got on it.
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The "see" thing could just be referencing the fancy new display they've got on it.
I think that's too simple. That one sentence teaser needs to encompass something more than a screen upgrade. We are going to see the new screen whether we want to or not. The part about "need to see" makes me think that it is something brand new that no one sees coming.
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The "see" thing could just be referencing the fancy new display they've got on it.
I think that's too simple. That one sentence teaser needs to encompass something more than a screen upgrade. We are going to see the new screen whether we want to or not. The part about "need to see" makes me think that it is something brand new that no one sees coming.
I'm going to put my guess on it just being a higher res screen, although having a DS style 3D display wouldn't really surprise me either.
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The "see" thing could just be referencing the fancy new display they've got on it.
I think that's too simple. That one sentence teaser needs to encompass something more than a screen upgrade. We are going to see the new screen whether we want to or not. The part about "need to see" makes me think that it is something brand new that no one sees coming.
To be fair, Apple quite often hype up a lot of simple things. Like they made a big thing about the latest iOS had folders a while back.
The rumoured screen for the new iPad (2,048 x 1,536 IPS LCD) is a lot better than any on any other tablets right now so I wouldn't be surprised if that was it.
I doubt Apple would adopt autostereoscopic 3D while it still has very poor viewing angles.
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The "see" thing could just be referencing the fancy new display they've got on it.
I think that's too simple. That one sentence teaser needs to encompass something more than a screen upgrade. We are going to see the new screen whether we want to or not. The part about "need to see" makes me think that it is something brand new that no one sees coming.
To be fair, Apple quite often hype up a lot of simple things. Like they made a big thing about the latest iOS had folders a while back.
The rumoured screen for the new iPad (2,048 x 1,536 IPS LCD) is a lot better than any on any other tablets right now so I wouldn't be surprised if that was it.
I doubt Apple would adopt autostereoscopic 3D while it still has very poor viewing angles.
But the folders, while simple, we're actually a huge thing. It added a whole new level of organization to their devices. While a better screen is awesome, it's nothing revolutionary, it's just an improvement. I don't think autostereoscopic is in the cards, but the iPad doesn't have that many viewing angles, it could work for sure. I'd imagine if they did go 3D , it would require glasses.
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Apple's way too trendy to make their customers wear tacky glasses to use their product.
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Also, the iPad is far too big to hold at a certain angle for a long time. I mean, you can't even move it an inch without the 3D image splitting up.
I would say that folders is just an improvement as well. They weren't necessary.
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I think it's going to be a higher resolution screen, faster processor and they may have improved the cameras. Like most Apple updates it will be mostly an incremental update. This is what I'm reading on most of the tech blogs I keep an eye on.
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I think it's going to be a higher resolution screen, faster processor and they may have improved the cameras. Like most Apple updates it will be mostly an incremental update. This is what I'm reading on most of the tech blogs I keep an eye on.
The cameras from the 4S would be sweeeeeet. It would be even sweeter if we had the front facing camera of the 4S face front and back.
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I think it's going to be a higher resolution screen, faster processor and they may have improved the cameras. Like most Apple updates it will be mostly an incremental update. This is what I'm reading on most of the tech blogs I keep an eye on.
The cameras from the 4S would be sweeeeeet. It would be even sweeter if we had the front facing camera of the 4S face front and back.
It wouldn't quite be enough of a reason for me -personally- to upgrade, but yeah, that would be a sensible upgrade path. The thing I've been hearing, though, about the possible increase in screen resolution is that in terms of application performance it won't make much of a difference, especially at first, because the developers would all need to re-write their apps to take advantage of the higher resolution.
The only place you'd really experience any major difference would be with the stuff that comes with it. Third party apps would be "dummied down" to the iPad2 screen resolution until the developers could write updates.
And by that time the iPad 4 will be out :P
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I think it's going to be a higher resolution screen, faster processor and they may have improved the cameras. Like most Apple updates it will be mostly an incremental update. This is what I'm reading on most of the tech blogs I keep an eye on.
The cameras from the 4S would be sweeeeeet. It would be even sweeter if we had the front facing camera of the 4S face front and back.
It wouldn't quite be enough of a reason for me -personally- to upgrade, but yeah, that would be a sensible upgrade path. The thing I've been hearing, though, about the possible increase in screen resolution is that in terms of application performance it won't make much of a difference, especially at first, because the developers would all need to re-write their apps to take advantage of the higher resolution.
The only place you'd really experience any major difference would be with the stuff that comes with it. Third party apps would be "dummied down" to the iPad2 screen resolution until the developers could write updates.
And by that time the iPad 4 will be out :P
Wouldn't all video content look better as a result?
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I think it's going to be a higher resolution screen, faster processor and they may have improved the cameras. Like most Apple updates it will be mostly an incremental update. This is what I'm reading on most of the tech blogs I keep an eye on.
The cameras from the 4S would be sweeeeeet. It would be even sweeter if we had the front facing camera of the 4S face front and back.
It wouldn't quite be enough of a reason for me -personally- to upgrade, but yeah, that would be a sensible upgrade path. The thing I've been hearing, though, about the possible increase in screen resolution is that in terms of application performance it won't make much of a difference, especially at first, because the developers would all need to re-write their apps to take advantage of the higher resolution.
The only place you'd really experience any major difference would be with the stuff that comes with it. Third party apps would be "dummied down" to the iPad2 screen resolution until the developers could write updates.
And by that time the iPad 4 will be out :P
Wouldn't all video content look better as a result?
Video content? You mean videos? Would depend on the resolution of the actual video content.
If you just mean on-screen content, then no, the apps have to be reworked to take advantage of the higher screen resolution. What you'll end up with is similar to what happens when you set a 16:9 (1920x1080 for example) widescreen aspect ratio monitor to 4:3 (1024x768)
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I think it's going to be a higher resolution screen, faster processor and they may have improved the cameras. Like most Apple updates it will be mostly an incremental update. This is what I'm reading on most of the tech blogs I keep an eye on.
The cameras from the 4S would be sweeeeeet. It would be even sweeter if we had the front facing camera of the 4S face front and back.
It wouldn't quite be enough of a reason for me -personally- to upgrade, but yeah, that would be a sensible upgrade path. The thing I've been hearing, though, about the possible increase in screen resolution is that in terms of application performance it won't make much of a difference, especially at first, because the developers would all need to re-write their apps to take advantage of the higher resolution.
The only place you'd really experience any major difference would be with the stuff that comes with it. Third party apps would be "dummied down" to the iPad2 screen resolution until the developers could write updates.
And by that time the iPad 4 will be out :P
Wouldn't all video content look better as a result?
Video content? You mean videos? Would depend on the resolution of the actual video content.
If you just mean on-screen content, then no, the apps have to be reworked to take advantage of the higher screen resolution. What you'll end up with is similar to what happens when you set a 16:9 (1920x1080 for example) widescreen aspect ratio monitor to 4:3 (1024x768)
I mean videos on YouTube and Netflix.
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I think it's going to be a higher resolution screen, faster processor and they may have improved the cameras. Like most Apple updates it will be mostly an incremental update. This is what I'm reading on most of the tech blogs I keep an eye on.
The cameras from the 4S would be sweeeeeet. It would be even sweeter if we had the front facing camera of the 4S face front and back.
It wouldn't quite be enough of a reason for me -personally- to upgrade, but yeah, that would be a sensible upgrade path. The thing I've been hearing, though, about the possible increase in screen resolution is that in terms of application performance it won't make much of a difference, especially at first, because the developers would all need to re-write their apps to take advantage of the higher resolution.
The only place you'd really experience any major difference would be with the stuff that comes with it. Third party apps would be "dummied down" to the iPad2 screen resolution until the developers could write updates.
And by that time the iPad 4 will be out :P
Wouldn't all video content look better as a result?
Video content? You mean videos? Would depend on the resolution of the actual video content.
If you just mean on-screen content, then no, the apps have to be reworked to take advantage of the higher screen resolution. What you'll end up with is similar to what happens when you set a 16:9 (1920x1080 for example) widescreen aspect ratio monitor to 4:3 (1024x768)
I mean videos on YouTube and Netflix.
If they're HD they'll look better, yeah.
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Awesome!
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And when he means HD, he's talking about 1080p.
720p videos won't look any better.
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Correct, AcidLameLTE
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At first I thought that was a jab and then I remembered he had his username changed :lol
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Yeah and you better remember than, antiGOON
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What time is the event tomorrow? Will it be streamed live anywhere?
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1. I don't know
2. It always is
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1. I don't know
2. It always is
I don't think it always is. I remember one of them (possibly the iPad2) I had to follow a blog that was constantly being updated by someone at the event.
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Oh wait. I don't remember watching the iPad 2 one, either. My B.
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1. I don't know
2. It always is
I don't think it always is. I remember one of them (possibly the iPad2) I had to follow a blog that was constantly being updated by someone at the event.
If you have the CNN app then according to this site (https://www.shallownation.com/2012/03/05/apple-event-mar-7-2012-10-a-m-pt-live-coverage-ipad-3-press-conference-announcement/) you will be able to stream the even live. I don't know how reliable of a source that is and I don't see anything on the CNN iPad app yet.
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Like I said in my twitter:
"Anyone else think the thing 'you have to see' on the invite was the Apple TV, and to 'touch' is the new iPad?"
It makes sense. 98% of US Apple retail stores are out of stock of Apple TV. https://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/06/98-of-u-s-apple-retail-stores-out-of-stock-of-apple-tv/
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My success in my high school business class depends on this thing doing well.
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Stock market game?
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My success in my high school business class depends on this thing doing well.
Will your class take into account today's terrible world stock market performance? :lol
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The "see" thing could just be referencing the fancy new display they've got on it.
I think that's too simple. That one sentence teaser needs to encompass something more than a screen upgrade. We are going to see the new screen whether we want to or not. The part about "need to see" makes me think that it is something brand new that no one sees coming.
To be fair, Apple quite often hype up a lot of simple things. Like they made a big thing about the latest iOS had folders a while back.
Wait, really? I doesn't really surprise me though since Apple finds ways to market common-sense technology and technology that has been around forever as something fresh and innovative.
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Like I said in my twitter:
"Anyone else think the thing 'you have to see' on the invite was the Apple TV, and to 'touch' is the new iPad?"
It makes sense. 98% of US Apple retail stores are out of stock of Apple TV. https://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/06/98-of-u-s-apple-retail-stores-out-of-stock-of-apple-tv/
I posted this earlier:
Maybe the "see" hints at the speculated television that many people have talked about, some how integrating it's use through touch via all iDevices. ...
Apple needs a huge event. This could potentially be their first big conference (not including iPhone 4S) in which something NEW iis unleashed on the world withough Steve Jobs as the deliverer. They need to make a statement that says "we are not just staying on top of the current market, but are here to dominate another one". That's were a TV would make sense. A powerful television, with access to the app store, that you could play quality multiplayer games on without a separate console would be AWESOME!
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https://www.engadget.com/2012/03/07/ipad-rumor-tactile-display/
Remember Senseg's tactile touchscreen displays? Well, last December the company showed off a screen that used an electrostatic field to simulate friction and textures on the glass. Such technology was a couple of years away from being commercially viable, but there's a tiny glimmer of a chance it might be the new killer iPad feature. Pocket-lint spoke to a company rep who cryptically said that the company wasn't making any statements until "after Apple's announcement." Why would they issue any statement tied to today's Apple news? Could it connect with a remark made back in June 2011 to Trusted Reviews, that Senseg had partnered with a "certain tablet maker based in Cupertino?" Maybe that line in Apple's invitation to today's event is another clue: "We have something you really have to see. And Touch." After all, Siri was announced at the "Let's talk iPhone" event, so it wouldn't be the first time the company places vague hints under our noses. Still, we have but a few hours left to wait until we really know what's coming, so join us for the live announcement later today.
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That's what I was talking to Sigz regarding the Haptic technology. Is this technology still too new, too soon to become commercially profitable? Has it reached the point where it is now good enough to be offered in a company like Apple?
Just a few hours away. (If it is, I think Apple will now change the way they send hints through their invitations)
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What time is this thing at today?
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10 AM PST, 1 PM my time (-5 GMT).
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1. I don't know
2. It always is
I don't think it always is. I remember one of them (possibly the iPad2) I had to follow a blog that was constantly being updated by someone at the event.
If you have the CNN app then according to this site (https://www.shallownation.com/2012/03/05/apple-event-mar-7-2012-10-a-m-pt-live-coverage-ipad-3-press-conference-announcement/) you will be able to stream the even live. I don't know how reliable of a source that is and I don't see anything on the CNN iPad app yet.
I'm trying to watch live tv on that app now, I keep getting an error while trying to connect to CNN :(
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Does anyone think it's possible that we see the unveiling of 2 new iPads, or a new iPad as well as something along the lines of a phone/hybrid device? Perhaps a new version on the current iPad, as well as a smaller version? Something along the lines of a 6 or a 7 inch display.
I think Samsung is onto something with their newest gadget, the Note. It's it's the first device to bridge the gap between a smartphone and a tablet. The Note is a phone with a 5.5 or 6 inch screen. I think it's a cool concept. It's something that allows business folk to have a device with many of the perks that a tablet provides, but doesn't take up much room and can still function as a phone. The device can still fit in a jacket pocket with ease.
I don't think a 7 inch version of the iPad, an iPad lite or an iPad mini if you will, would be a terrible move by apple. They could do away with the cameras as well as use smaller batteries when compared to those in the current iPads. I would imagine that such a device could be priced somewhere in the $325-$350 range. Granted the Kindle Fire is still less than that, but a $150 price gap would be much easier for people to swallow than a $300 one. It would be a whole new market for apple, one that I think would do very well. I read the other day that the fire currently makes up almost 18% of tablet users (the iPad is 52% give or take), I'm sure Apple would love to steal some of that market for themselves. Not to mention the fact it would be a great way to attract new customers and get them to buy more expensive products in the future.
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1. I don't know
2. It always is
I don't think it always is. I remember one of them (possibly the iPad2) I had to follow a blog that was constantly being updated by someone at the event.
If you have the CNN app then according to this site (https://www.shallownation.com/2012/03/05/apple-event-mar-7-2012-10-a-m-pt-live-coverage-ipad-3-press-conference-announcement/) you will be able to stream the even live. I don't know how reliable of a source that is and I don't see anything on the CNN iPad app yet.
I'm trying to watch live tv on that app now, I keep getting an error while trying to connect to CNN :(
Try it on a PC :P
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1. I don't know
2. It always is
I don't think it always is. I remember one of them (possibly the iPad2) I had to follow a blog that was constantly being updated by someone at the event.
If you have the CNN app then according to this site (https://www.shallownation.com/2012/03/05/apple-event-mar-7-2012-10-a-m-pt-live-coverage-ipad-3-press-conference-announcement/) you will be able to stream the even live. I don't know how reliable of a source that is and I don't see anything on the CNN iPad app yet.
I'm trying to watch live tv on that app now, I keep getting an error while trying to connect to CNN :(
Try it on a PC :P
I don't feel like walking across campus to the computer lab. I need to stay in the library.
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10 minutes! Many places online are saying that Apple is not streaming this event. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
*edit* I'm hoping this is it!
https://www.ustream.tv/ltktv
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Nope. Live now.
https://live.arstechnica.com/Event/Apple_iPad_3_Event
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That link ^ is resulting in an error.
Live updates on CNN's Twitter (https://twitter.com/?hpt=hp_t1#%21/cnntech)
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New iPad resolution: 2048 X 1536. That's 3.1 million pixels on the device. 264 pixels per inch.
New Apple iPad will have a quad-core chip, the A5X. "It is a graphics powerhouse," Phil Schiller says
New iPad will record video in 1080p. Camera has a 5 megapixel sensor.
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New iPad (for lack of a better term) will include voice dictation.
New iPad will have 4G LTE connection.
The voice dictation feature only works in English, French, German and Japanese btw...
New iPad works as a personal hotspot, if your carrier (ahem) supports that..
Despite faster wireless connection, the new iPad runs for 9 hours on a 4G connection, Schiller says.
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New iPad resolution: 2048 X 1536.
This was easily one of the worst kept secrets about the new iPad.
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yeah, none of this is too surprising, nor is it all that revolutionary. Lots of over-the-top hyperbole as usual.
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Apple's new iPad will cost $499 to $829, depending on storage size and connection. That's the same as before. It's available March 16.
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Another iPad? My God, they've done it again. Genius.
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A quite nice upgrade in specs, but nothing hype worthy considering this is all as expected. Is there more to come?
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LTE radios in the iPad all but confirm the iPhone 5 will finally have 4G connectivity. What I'm finding interesting is that Sprint and T-Mobile are being left by the wayside in terms of 4G connectivity. Sprint has yet to adopt LTE over their WiMax network and T-Mobile's HSPA+ network isn't actually 4G, so Verizon and AT&T are the only US 4G networks on board. I am sure they will continue to sell the iPhone on Sprint, but I highly doubt they will create a dedicated WiMax iPhone. I could be wrong, though.
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BlobVanDam: No sir, I think that's it. Once again, Apple demonstrates an uncanny ability to generate a metric shit-ton of buzz over very little. They never cease to amaze me.
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BlobVanDam: No sir, I think that's it. Once again, Apple demonstrates an uncanny ability to generate a metric shit-ton of buzz over very little. They never cease to amaze me.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Not to downplay that this is quite an upgrade in specs, but it's all routine evolution, far short of the hype I've seen lately about insane new technologies that they might be including. Apple are masters of making people care a lot about a little.
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BlobVanDam: No sir, I think that's it. Once again, Apple demonstrates an uncanny ability to generate a metric shit-ton of buzz over very little. They never cease to amaze me.
Apple doesn't generate a shit ton of buzz. The media does that for them.
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(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/03/apple-ipad-3-ipad-hd-liveblog-2976-1331145433.jpg)
THIS LOOKS FAMILIAR
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BlobVanDam: No sir, I think that's it. Once again, Apple demonstrates an uncanny ability to generate a metric shit-ton of buzz over very little. They never cease to amaze me.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Not to downplay that this is quite an upgrade in specs, but it's all routine evolution, far short of the hype I've seen lately about insane new technologies that they might be including. Apple are masters of making people care a lot about a little.
I think Chino makes a good point, though. A lot of the hype is media-generated.
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BlobVanDam: No sir, I think that's it. Once again, Apple demonstrates an uncanny ability to generate a metric shit-ton of buzz over very little. They never cease to amaze me.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Not to downplay that this is quite an upgrade in specs, but it's all routine evolution, far short of the hype I've seen lately about insane new technologies that they might be including. Apple are masters of making people care a lot about a little.
I think Chino makes a good point, though. A lot of the hype is media-generated.
Apple literally did next to nothing in terms of generating buzz. All they did was announce they had an event scheduled and released a teaser photo.
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There are a few updates to some of the apps that sound pretty cool. If you visit this twitter feed (https://twitter.com/?hpt=hp_t1#%21/cnntech) you can check them out.
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BlobVanDam: No sir, I think that's it. Once again, Apple demonstrates an uncanny ability to generate a metric shit-ton of buzz over very little. They never cease to amaze me.
Apple doesn't generate a shit ton of buzz. The media does that for them.
It's a vicious cycle. Apple are all about hype, and people feed off that and create further hype on their own. It just doesn't merit it from either side.
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The hype leading up to the events is media-generated. However, the hype about the "new" features is all Apple. Theuy went nuts over the "brand new notification system" in iOS 5, which was basically what Android has had since the start. Apple is the king of adding some polish to an existing technology and calling it brand new and innovative.
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I think it's kind of funny and maybe even a bit of a gaffe that Tim Cook never once actually gave the new iPad a name at the event.
:lol
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I think it's kind of funny and maybe even a bit of a gaffe that Tim Cook never once actually gave the new iPad a name at the event.
:lol
I noticed that too. I don't really see the point of calling it anything other than just "iPad". They only sell one generation at a time. It's like saying I drive a mazda3-04 instead of a mazda3-05
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Well, they do preface cars with the model year, e.g. 2008 Mazda 6.
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I think it's kind of funny and maybe even a bit of a gaffe that Tim Cook never once actually gave the new iPad a name at the event.
:lol
I noticed that too. I don't really see the point of calling it anything other than just "iPad". They only sell one generation at a time. It's like saying I drive a mazda3-04 instead of a mazda3-05
But they should distinguish the distinct generations of the product from each other. They did that with the second generation iPad calling it "iPad2" out of the gate. I think that was wise, and they've done the same with the iPhone with "iPhone 3" "iPhone 4" and "iPhone 4s"
This one is kind of a (https://www.kirksnosehair.com/Portals/0/images/smilies/scratchhead.gif)
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I agree with you, Kirk. What are they going to call the next one?
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Well, they do preface cars with the model year, e.g. 2008 Mazda 6.
But if I went into a dealership to buy a new one, I would say "hi, I'm looking for a 2013 mazda3", I'd just say "hi, I'd like to buy a maxda3"
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True enough. But if you were to service, repair or sell it, the model year is an essential piece of information. If you are trying to sell your iPad, it's damn important to the buyer if it's an iPad, an iPad 2 or an iPad 3/HD/whatever.
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It will be un to make a table of rumours that came true and the others that were left like that.
Retina display: True.
A5X Chip: True.
Haptic technology: False.
4G/LTE: True.
8 MP back/front camera: False. It's a 5 MP.
*New* Apple TV: True. Yet nothing like what was implied in Steve Jobs Biography.
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All in all, the end result is the same: I still don't want one. :mehlin
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This sums it up:
(https://imgur.com/vEVsi.jpg)
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Basically the iPhone 4S is still better than the new iPad?
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Following the announcement today of a new 1080p-capable Apple TV, Netflix has announced that it will support 1080p streaming on the new Apple TV. In addition, users will be able to sign up and pay for Netflix service on both the second and third-generation Apple TV models, using their iTunes Store account.
Starting today, you can sign-up for Netflix directly on your Apple TV and pay via your iTunes account. Plus, with the new third generation Apple TV, you’ll also be able to watch thousands of hours of great movies and television streaming on Netflix in 1080p high definition and with room-filling Dolby Digital 5.1 audio.
Now, with a software update on your Apple TV, this seamless sign up and billing experience extends to the second generation Apple TV. The new sign up and payment experience on Apple TV is available wherever Netflix is, including in the U.S., Canada, Latin America, the United Kingdom and Ireland.
Netflix's iOS app is also available free on the App Store for iPhone and iPad.
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The new AppleTv UI is ugly. That's the first time i've said that about an apple designed UI. Coincidence that steve jobs is dead?
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The quad core graphics chip is really awesome. Ed Boon said it's more powerful than the xbox 360. That alone is crazy lol.
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The quad core graphics chip is really awesome. Ed Boon said it's more powerful than the xbox 360. That alone is crazy lol.
That alone means nothing. I can think of at least a dozen ways that comparison is just an apples to oranges comparison that doesn't actually equate to better graphics in anyway, especially as we're dealing with a quad core compared to a single core. The history of graphics chips is full of overblown figures and non real-world comparisons.
Not that I'm saying they're lying or that it won't be great (you'd need a good chipset for that resolution screen, especially if it's using the same method of blending as the older models), but I'll reserve any judgement on that until I see any hard figures or real world applications of it.
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Yeah, I have a really hard time buying that it's "better than a 360", at least in any practical terms. Even most laptops have trouble matching good 360 graphics, let alone a tablet with basically no cooling.
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They didn't say it was better than a 360. Ed boon the creator of Mortal Kombat said it on his twitter. They make games for all systems including the iPad. That's why i thought it was interesting.
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Considering it's a quad core, I'm expecting it's something like "if all 4 cores were theoretically being used to max potential simultaneously, the speed would exceed the 360", which means just about nothing in reality, especially when you take into account how difficult it is to parallelize processes that neatly, or how that even relates to the quality of the graphics.
Not to mention that would chew through battery like an SOB, so hopefully it's a fairly efficient processor. Coming from Apple, I'd expect that was important to them.
They didn't say it was better than a 360. Ed boon the creator of Mortal Kombat said it on his twitter. They make games for all systems including the iPad. That's why i thought it was interesting.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm still interested to know how that is being compared though, as it's an extremely vague and likely misleading comparison.
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Also the 360 is, what, 5-6 year old technology?
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Even older than that. But still, is it at the point where a tablet is going to match it though?
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Different subject, but...
New toy just arrived via UPS:
(https://www.kirksnosehair.com/pics/touch64gb.jpg)
(https://www.kirksnosehair.com/Portals/0/images/smilies/knh.gif)
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And on a completely different topic from that, the Department of Justice is warning Apple (and 5 other companies) that they're about to get sued (https://money.cnn.com/2012/03/08/technology/apple-ebook-price/index.htm?hpt=hp_t1) for price fixing of eBooks.
Apple & Greed
Kinda like Peanut Butter and Jelly or Ham and Cheese or Shits & Giggles
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Also read that Nvidia is taking exception to the A5X being "four times faster than the Tegra 3," mainly because the claim was made at the announcement without one citation to performance benchmarks. They are likening the "misinformation" to when Jobs stood onstage and blatantly lied (or stated a misinformed fact) about the number of available Android apps. Again, it's all marketing.
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Also read that Nvidia is taking exception to the A5X being "four times faster than the Tegra 3," mainly because the claim was made at the announcement without one citation to performance benchmarks. They are likening the "misinformation" to when Jobs stood onstage and blatantly lied (or stated a misinformed fact) about the number of available Android apps. Again, it's all marketing.
The best on-stage Steve Jobs moment was when he outright denied that the iPhone 4 had a dropped call problem :lol I'm too lazy to look for the video, but it was a press conference and he was getting hammered with questions about it and was getting testier and testier by the moment.
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Actually, that incindent was adressed on Steve Jobs Bio - the author explains how much of a brilliant defense strategy Apple adopted. And it's true, that was a brilliant defense.
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Following the announcement today of a new 1080p-capable Apple TV, Netflix has announced that it will support 1080p streaming on the new Apple TV. In addition, users will be able to sign up and pay for Netflix service on both the second and third-generation Apple TV models, using their iTunes Store account.
Finally, a device I can buy to watch stuff on Netflix! All I have now is my laptop, my 360, and my BluRay player.
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ooh look another ipad yay... *sarcarsm*..
:facepalm:
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ooh look another ipad yay... *sarcarsm*..
:facepalm:
Is that like an ironic orgasm in the backseat of a Mustang?
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Also read that Nvidia is taking exception to the A5X being "four times faster than the Tegra 3," mainly because the claim was made at the announcement without one citation to performance benchmarks. They are likening the "misinformation" to when Jobs stood onstage and blatantly lied (or stated a misinformed fact) about the number of available Android apps. Again, it's all marketing.
The best on-stage Steve Jobs moment was when he outright denied that the iPhone 4 had a dropped call problem :lol I'm too lazy to look for the video, but it was a press conference and he was getting hammered with questions about it and was getting testier and testier by the moment.
You could write a novel about Apple's brazen public lies. Understandably, I'm taking any claims about the processor with dash of salt from a gag shaker until I see real figures.
Multi-core processors are a difficult thing to compare fairly in real world applications, because of the nature of programming for them. Being a quad core does not instantly make it 4x faster than a single core processor of the same clock speed across the board.
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Well the Tegra 3 is a quad-core chip. There are simply no benchmarks to substantiate Apple's performance claims.
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Oh, is it? In that case I most definitely don't believe their claim. :lol
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The Tegra 3 is, for now, one of, if not the, fastest chip available to Android smartphone manufacturers. From what I've read, the highest speed available now is 1.5GHz quad-core.
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https://www.engadget.com/2012/03/14/idc-android-tablets-will-overtake-ipad-by-2015/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/03/idc-forecast2.jpg)
Deal with it
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I would at least hope so being as they put their operating system on so many different devices and several different brands.
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Yet the Android tablets will never be better than the iPad.
(https://imgur.com/FrGgZ.gif)
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I think it's kind of funny and maybe even a bit of a gaffe that Tim Cook never once actually gave the new iPad a name at the event.
:lol
I noticed that too. I don't really see the point of calling it anything other than just "iPad". They only sell one generation at a time. It's like saying I drive a mazda3-04 instead of a mazda3-05
But they should distinguish the distinct generations of the product from each other. They did that with the second generation iPad calling it "iPad2" out of the gate. I think that was wise, and they've done the same with the iPhone with "iPhone 3" "iPhone 4" and "iPhone 4s"
This one is kind of a (https://www.kirksnosehair.com/Portals/0/images/smilies/scratchhead.gif)
They don't do this with the iPods.
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https://www.engadget.com/2012/03/14/idc-android-tablets-will-overtake-ipad-by-2015/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.engadget.com/2012/03/14/idc-android-tablets-will-overtake-ipad-by-2015/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/03/idc-forecast2.jpg)
Deal with it
From the link:
The forecasters noted that Apple's worldwide share of the tablet market is shrinking with each new lower-priced Android competitor.
That makes sense to me. There is definitely a market to be exploited for budget-minded folks who just don't want to plunk down the type of money that Apple wants for the iPad. It's really the same dynamic with their laptops and desktops and one of the main reasons they'll probably never achieve market dominance. They're simply too expensive.
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Yup. I simply can't justify spending 600 bucks on what's essentially just a thing to browse the web on my couch.
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Yup. I simply can't justify spending 600 bucks on what's essentially just a thing to browse the web on my couch.
And the other problem is (as I have experienced myself many, many times) there are still a TON of websites that don't work right on the iPad, which gets pretty frustrating (lack of Flash support) and I think besides cost, that is one of the factors that is leading to Android tablets gaining market share.
You walk into any Verizon store and talk to one of the sales guys about the Galaxy tablets (which are pretty sweet) and one of the first things out of their mouth is "and you can view ANY website that you can view on a PC, unlike the iPad"
But with that said, the Apple app store still pwns the Android marketplace.
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Anybody up for a blast from the past?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBsTAsivPa4&feature=BFa&list=PL7D09E2162D0DC0D1&lf=results_main
I always loved that ad.
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Yup. I simply can't justify spending 600 bucks on what's essentially just a thing to browse the web on my couch.
And the other problem is (as I have experienced myself many, many times) there are still a TON of websites that don't work right on the iPad, which gets pretty frustrating (lack of Flash support) and I think besides cost, that is one of the factors that is leading to Android tablets gaining market share.
You walk into any Verizon store and talk to one of the sales guys about the Galaxy tablets (which are pretty sweet) and one of the first things out of their mouth is "and you can view ANY website that you can view on a PC, unlike the iPad"
But with that said, the Apple app store still pwns the Android marketplace.
The flash things is the one thing that always irks my boat. There is a $5 web browser that's suppose to properly display the content of like 95% of flash based sites. if you take the flash thing out of the equation, th iPad is superior in just about every category.
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https://www.engadget.com/2012/03/14/idc-android-tablets-will-overtake-ipad-by-2015/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (https://www.engadget.com/2012/03/14/idc-android-tablets-will-overtake-ipad-by-2015/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
(https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/03/idc-forecast2.jpg)
Deal with it
From the link:
The forecasters noted that Apple's worldwide share of the tablet market is shrinking with each new lower-priced Android competitor.
That makes sense to me.
Yet their stock is still reaching an all time high: https://www.google.com/finance?q=Apple
$600!!! DAYUUUUM! Good business is good.
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Apple's stock has exploded the last 3 days
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Yup. I simply can't justify spending 600 bucks on what's essentially just a thing to browse the web on my couch.
And the other problem is (as I have experienced myself many, many times) there are still a TON of websites that don't work right on the iPad, which gets pretty frustrating (lack of Flash support) and I think besides cost, that is one of the factors that is leading to Android tablets gaining market share.
You walk into any Verizon store and talk to one of the sales guys about the Galaxy tablets (which are pretty sweet) and one of the first things out of their mouth is "and you can view ANY website that you can view on a PC, unlike the iPad"
But with that said, the Apple app store still pwns the Android marketplace.
The flash things is the one thing that always irks my boat. There is a $5 web browser that's suppose to properly display the content of like 95% of flash based sites. if you take the flash thing out of the equation, th iPad is superior in just about every category.
There's Skyfire (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/skyfire-web-browser-flash/id384941497?mt=8)- but it only supports flash video.
I think you're probably referring to Photon (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photon-flash-web-browser-app/id430200224?mt=8)- and it's pretty good, but the only thing I don't like about it is you can't make it the default browser.
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The Verge Review, it's pretty good.
https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/14/2870533/ipad-review
(https://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1005337/compare.jpg)
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With the tablet market, we'll probably see something similar to the personal computer market, just with Google instead of Microsoft;
Android will have a bigger market share than iOS, while Apple will have a bigger market share than most individual Android tablet manufacturers.
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Apple experts, HALP!
Tried updating 3rd gen (I think) iPod Touch to updated OS, and it completely froze and is now stuck on a screen with the Apple logo in the middle and an empty bar below it. No matter what button I press or hold, nothing happens. Try plugging it back into the computer and iTunes and it recognises that the iPod is plugged in, but says all the content is "Other". Try to sync, nothing happens. Try to restore, says it can't because there was an error, although doesn't tell me what the error was.
Nothing useful on Apple website, tried googling but nothing relevant came up. Anyone got any ideas?
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Just to check did you try pressing and holding the home and power button simultaneously for like 10 seconds?
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Yeah I literally just found a site that said to do that in order to turn it off, so am trying it now. :lol Thanks though, hopefully this will work.
EDIT: Having to do a full restore. It finally finished doing my apps, now it's just started on my 10,556 songs. God damn you, Apple.
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Yeah they're pretty good at not addressing problems.
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So the new iPad sold 3 million in four days. DAYYUUUUM.
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Nobody knows why.
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https://news.consumerreports.org/electronics/2012/03/our-test-finds-new-ipad-hits-116-degrees-while-running-games.html
(https://news.consumerreports.org/assets_c/2012/03/electronics_iPadthermal-thumb-598xauto-4312.jpg)
Jesus.
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116 is pretty warm, but if you have one of those leather book-cover type protectors, it's not that bad. One of my vendors is sending me an iPad 3 next week. I'm interested in seeing how bad the heat problem is first hand
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Hardly a surprise when you consider the extra processing power in the thing.
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Yep, that's a shame. Another Antennagate?
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Another new apple product... let's fine something to make a "gate" out of. Give me a break this is nothing. The battery issue to me is actually relevant to talk about. It's not a huge deal to me but if you were going to talk about something that would be it.
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You mean compared the grand total of one "-gate" that they've had? That needs to die as a media term but that's a whole other issue.
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You mean compared the grand total of one "-gate" that they've had?
:lol
But seriously, 116F is pretty goddamned hot for something you're supposed to be holding.
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I'd be fine, I own a dell laptop.
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I'd be fine, I own a dell laptop.
Ah, your hands are made of asbestos then?
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https://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/464547641_7NixC-L-2.jpg (https://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/464547641_7NixC-L-2.jpg)
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Another new apple product... let's fine something to make a "gate" out of. Give me a break this is nothing. The battery issue to me is actually relevant to talk about. It's not a huge deal to me but if you were going to talk about something that would be it.
Something you're supposed to hold or rest in your lap reaching those kinds of temperatures is definitely worth bringing up.
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https://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/464547641_7NixC-L-2.jpg (https://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/464547641_7NixC-L-2.jpg)
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Can someone tell me the appeal to having an Apple Thunderbolt display? My brother got one at his job, which is fine I suppose when someone else picks up the bill.
I asked for monitors as a gift, and targeted and received two 23 inch HP displays. Sure, the Apple monitor has a thunderbolt port and other ports for extensions, speakers, a camera and a better resolution than my monitors.
But the cost of the dual monitors were a little north of $300 apparently. I can daisy-chain off the laptop, and I can have far superior speakers externally. I doubt the Apple Thunderbolt Display has much better speakers than the laptop. The MacBook already has a camera, and now I have an extra display for more windows, and more viewable space (a little too much actually).
This is not meant to be an Apple always costs more thing... I cannot see the utility in some added features at the sacrifice of having 27 inches vs. 46 inches. I go to sit at the desk with external monitors to do work, and an extra monitor allows me to do work better.
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24% of Americans surveyed plan to buy the new iPad
Interesting ...
https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/03/26/24-of-americans-surveyed-plan-to-buy-the-new-ipad/
*apologies for anyone that clicked the porn link I accidentally pasted*
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So this whole heat debate does not lie only on Apple's lap.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/252504/not_so_hot_new_ipad_heat_levels_comparable_to_android_tablets.html
(https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2012/03/ipad3-temp.jpg)
Wired's (https://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/03/new-ipad-versus-5-tablet-competitors-which-runs-hottest/) tests also show it runs hotter than an iPad 2 and an Iconia, but not as hot as a Transformer Prime or Kindle Fire.
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Didn't the previous article say 116 F?
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Running a different game.
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It's going to be interesting to see where tablets go from here. I highly doubt that Apple would ever make the ipad thick enough to allow a some sort of cooling fan, but the device is only going to get more powerful. How are they going to deal with it the unavoidable increase in running temps in the future?
I'm guessing eventually we are going to see the back of the iPad to be made of a non-metal material. In my mind, carbon fiber would be the logical choice. Carbon fiber does not retain heat for anywhere near the amount of time that steal or alluminum does. It would make the device a lot lighter, and in theory could be made to be much thinner than the current back of the iPad. It would allow more stuff to be crammed in it as well.
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I thought the aluminum back was key in dissipating the heat. A plastic back would never dissipate the heat fast enough so it will stay inside of the device and fans will definitely be needed.
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And Apple has never wanted to use a fan, as far as I'm concerned.
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But with the iPad I don't see how they could put in a fan due to how thin it is. They'd have to devise a new way to achieve air flow. Maybe slits at the top and bottom with a spinning drum thats small in diameter and the same width as the device.
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The key is in their component design. They manufacture the processor in house, so they just have to engineer chips that don't produce as much heat to begin with.
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Looks like Apple's use of misleading and hyperbolic advertising is about to take a bite out of them. (https://www.zdnet.com/blog/london/apple-faces-european-rebuke-over-apples-82164g-ipad-claim/3717?tag=nl.e550)
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Meanwhile, a lot of the digital magazine subscribers are saying that magazines look terrible (https://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/tech/gaming-gadgets/ipad-magazine-display/index.html?hpt=hp_bn11) on the new iPad because they're designed for a 1024x768 display, not the 2048x1536 display of the new iPad.
I think these are minor issues that will be ironed out in time.
I should have my iPad 3 today.
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Looks like Apple's use of misleading and hyperbolic advertising is about to take a bite out of them. (https://www.zdnet.com/blog/london/apple-faces-european-rebuke-over-apples-82164g-ipad-claim/3717?tag=nl.e550)
It IS a 4g device. I guess every country has their own version of 4g or whatever but it's not lying saying it's 4g. Also if thats the case then every single company should get in trouble for advertising 4g because NONE of them are actually running 4g. It's more like 3.5g.
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Meanwhile, a lot of the digital magazine subscribers are saying that magazines look terrible (https://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/tech/gaming-gadgets/ipad-magazine-display/index.html?hpt=hp_bn11) on the new iPad because they're designed for a 1024x768 display, not the 2048x1536 display of the new iPad.
I think these are minor issues that will be ironed out in time.
I should have my iPad 3 today.
It's their fault for not updating their resolution.
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Retired my Incipio iPhone case for an Otter Box. Hopefully this one will last longer. It better, because it cost me $43 :millahhhh
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Looks like Apple's use of misleading and hyperbolic advertising is about to take a bite out of them. (https://www.zdnet.com/blog/london/apple-faces-european-rebuke-over-apples-82164g-ipad-claim/3717?tag=nl.e550)
It IS a 4g device. I guess every country has their own version of 4g or whatever but it's not lying saying it's 4g. Also if thats the case then every single company should get in trouble for advertising 4g because NONE of them are actually running 4g. It's more like 3.5g.
The problem is Apple likes to use a bit too much hyperbole in their advertising and it bites them on the ass. That's what's happened here. The iPad 3 is a 4G device -depending on where you are using it and what network you are connected to.
Take it easy, dude, I probably own more Apple shit than you do :)
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Meanwhile, a lot of the digital magazine subscribers are saying that magazines look terrible (https://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/tech/gaming-gadgets/ipad-magazine-display/index.html?hpt=hp_bn11) on the new iPad because they're designed for a 1024x768 display, not the 2048x1536 display of the new iPad.
I think these are minor issues that will be ironed out in time.
I should have my iPad 3 today.
It's their fault for not updating their resolution.
No, actually, it's Apple's fault for not releasing the screen resolution to developers ahead of the release of the device because everything with Apple has to be cloak and dagger. Had Apple released the screen resolution to developers in advance of the release of the product - you know, like practically every other hardware manufacturer on earth does - this would not be an issue.
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Take it easy, dude, I probably own more Apple shit than you do :)
....you haven't seen the pictures of his Apple collection, have you. :lol
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Well, maybe not :lol The point is, I'm not an Apple h8ter - I'm not crazy about a lot of their marketing or business practices, though.
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TJ owns like 5 or 6 copies of every version of the iPhone, approximately 14 Macbooks, and 26 iPads
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(I may be slightly exaggerating for hilarity's sake)
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Looks like Apple's use of misleading and hyperbolic advertising is about to take a bite out of them. (https://www.zdnet.com/blog/london/apple-faces-european-rebuke-over-apples-82164g-ipad-claim/3717?tag=nl.e550)
It IS a 4g device. I guess every country has their own version of 4g or whatever but it's not lying saying it's 4g. Also if thats the case then every single company should get in trouble for advertising 4g because NONE of them are actually running 4g. It's more like 3.5g.
The problem is Apple likes to use a bit too much hyperbole in their advertising and it bites them on the ass. That's what's happened here. The iPad 3 is a 4G device -depending on where you are using it and what network you are connected to.
Take it easy, dude, I probably own more Apple shit than you do :)
I know you are not an apple hater. I'm just saying that every company is currently lying about 4g.
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Many people here have the thing they're known for...
tj: Apple
Chino: Avatar
lonestar: Bacon
If kirk wants to challenge tj for the apple spot, I wonder what the contest would be.
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I know you are not an apple hater. I'm just saying that every company is currently lying about 4g.
That's cool. Most countries just have better advertising standards than America :P
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Especially when it comes to 4G coverage.
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Looks like Apple's use of misleading and hyperbolic advertising is about to take a bite out of them. (https://www.zdnet.com/blog/london/apple-faces-european-rebuke-over-apples-82164g-ipad-claim/3717?tag=nl.e550)
It IS a 4g device. I guess every country has their own version of 4g or whatever but it's not lying saying it's 4g. Also if thats the case then every single company should get in trouble for advertising 4g because NONE of them are actually running 4g. It's more like 3.5g.
The problem is Apple likes to use a bit too much hyperbole in their advertising and it bites them on the ass. That's what's happened here. The iPad 3 is a 4G device -depending on where you are using it and what network you are connected to.
Take it easy, dude, I probably own more Apple shit than you do :)
I know you are not an apple hater. I'm just saying that every company is currently lying about 4g.
This is true. The speeds by the fastest wireless company is still a half off or more of the true 4G standards.
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My government is still in the auction process of liberating spectrum so 4G can be implemented. It will be ready this year, right on time for the next iPhone.
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The problem with '4G' is that it originally meant something, but is now basically meaningless.
It originally indicated a certain standard, but then basically every network provider started calling their shittier, far slower services '4G', to the point where those in charge of the standard basically just said 'fuck it'.
Shit like that is why a country like Canada, which used to be a world leader in internet infrastructure, now has companies advertising shitty 10mbps connections as 'Near Limitless Bandwidth' without being called out on it.
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Well LTE and WiMax are the only true 4G networks, which are Verizon and I believe Sprint. AT&T and T-Mobile use an upgraded 3G service that's more 3.5G than anything so there's a reason why devices on those networks don't move as fast regardless of what the flashy commercials say.
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When the iPhone gets 4G, if I get it with Verizon or Sprint, will I be able to get real 4G then?
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Yep.
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Good. Then I'm still holding out for the next iPhone.
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I'm do for a phone upgrade with Verizon come late June. By then my droidX will be 20 months ago. I want to switch to iPhone, but don't know if I should hold out for the next gen
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Well judging by past release dates, I was hoping for the new iPhone by the end of this year. Late summer or fall would be awesome.
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Any idea when the Iphone 5 is due? I'm switching phones around August.
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My suppliers are telling me the iPhone 5 won't be ready until Q4 2012, meaning September
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The tendency for the iPhone launch in the past two years is October, though.
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The tendency for the iPhone launch in the past two years is October, though.
?
I am pretty sure that iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS were both June announcement and launches, which was par for the usual course set by the first two models. 4S was the first one that broke the iPhone launch pattern.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/iphone-users-disgusted-by-android-instagram
And Apple users wonder why they have such a bad reputation
It's because they like Instagram :neverusethis:
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Is that entire page a joke?
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Nope. You can click on their twitter names and it takes you to their page if you want to check it out.
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My suppliers are telling me the iPhone 5 won't be ready until Q4 2012, meaning September
I read yesterday that certain plants are hiring 18,000+ new employees to begin production in June.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/iphone-users-disgusted-by-android-instagram
And Apple users wonder why they have such a bad reputation
It's because they like Instagram :neverusethis:
This is no different than lolmac or lolapple. But pathetic none the less.
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loltjanuranus
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loltjanuranus
You have a small penis and it's tiny.
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You smell of rotten onions
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iPad 2 users: what's your preferred video conversion specs when converting to mp4? I used a free software called OJOSoft Total Video and it has a lot of options but none for iPad, just for various versions of iPods and iPhones. I'm used to setting it to (Apple iPod 2006 Best Quality H.264, 30 fps, 640*480) and the mp4 outcomes work and look nice on my iPad but they're bigger than the original files and they're taking too much space on the iPad.
I'm pretty sure I can go lower than 640*480 res on the iPad without noticeable quality loss because of the screen size, thoughts?
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iPad 3 WI-FI issues (https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/05/tech/gaming-gadgets/ipad-wi-fi-issues/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
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So does Apple not actually have a name for the new ipad other than "The New iPad?" :lol
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Makes sense to me. It's not like we have the iPod 7 or whatever.
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Makes sense to me. It's not like we have the iPod 7 or whatever.
Me too. I don't understand why it needs to be numbered or named differently.
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So does Apple not actually have a name for the new ipad other than "The New iPad?" :lol
The new box simply says "iPad". Not "The New iPad".
So, I finally played with this new iteration of the iPad and I noticed the following comparing it side by side with the iPad 2:
-It's just a matter of time, but web pages and Apps have to update their resolution. Otherwise the page looks blurry. Catch-up!
-This new RAM is great. Really fast.
-Lines are finally straight; you cannot see the pixels. The retina is just killer (again, most apps and web pages need to update asap). This is the main reason to get an iPad.
-The iSight camera is just like the iPhone 4. The front one (Face Time) is still terrible. Incredibly awkward to take pictures with this device.
-Funny, though, I did feel it to be warm on the back. Not something that burns your skin or your lap, just warm.
-Truer colours in the iPad when compared to the iPad 2; gorgeous.
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Yes, how dare everyone not devote a bunch of time to updates for their websites that most people won't even notice, entirely because one device with a non-standard resolution doesn't scale properly.
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Makes sense to me. It's not like we have the iPod 7 or whatever.
Me too. I don't understand why it needs to be numbered or named differently.
Well, it has different hardware, so people will want to know what they are buying. The iPods are still 1st generation, 2nd generation etc, so I guess that'll be the case for iPads as well, rather than actually naming iPad 3 and so on.
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Most of the places I am reading about the new iPad I see they are parenthetically referring to it as Third Generation.
Meanwhile, it turned out that the 3rd gen iPad my vendor sent me was plagued with the Wifi issue I posted a link about above. I contacted Apple and they asked me if I would mind bringing it over to the Apple store (a few miles from my office) and they'd replace it.
I said that would kind of be a pain in the neck, that I'd rather just send it back to the vendor who provided it, and they sweetened the deal and said if I bring it over to the Apple store, they'll give me a $25 Gift Card for iTunes and a replacement iPad on the spot.
Apparently they are really hot to get their hands on these defective units. I guess they need to test them to find a fix.
Will be interesting to see if the replacement does or does not have the same issue.
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While I was at the Apple store a while ago the kid that helped me referred me to this (https://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/new-mac-malware-epidemic-exploits-weaknesses-in-apple-ecosystem/4726?tag=nl.e539) :eek
So much for Macs "never getting viruses"
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Wow.
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While I was at the Apple store a while ago the kid that helped me referred me to this (https://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/new-mac-malware-epidemic-exploits-weaknesses-in-apple-ecosystem/4726?tag=nl.e539) :eek
So much for Macs "never getting viruses"
Read about this yesterday. I'm surprised there haven't been more incidents like this already.
And this is also why I deleted Java from my PC years ago. Was completely useless for anything but bogging down my system and being exploited for viruses.
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and minecraft :p
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Yuck, that article made me feel gross.
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While I was at the Apple store a while ago the kid that helped me referred me to this (https://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/new-mac-malware-epidemic-exploits-weaknesses-in-apple-ecosystem/4726?tag=nl.e539) :eek
So much for Macs "never getting viruses"
Read about this yesterday. I'm surprised there haven't been more incidents like this already.
And this is also why I deleted Java from my PC years ago. Was completely useless for anything but bogging down my system and being exploited for viruses.
Actually, now that Oracle is the keeper of the x86 branch of the Java code base, it's being extremely well maintained and is relatively safe. Apple's implementation of it, however, is absolute shit.
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The only reason there weren't really any viruses for Macs for so long was that they had such a low market share. For a while, about 2-3% of computers in use were Apple. That's not a big enough target to really be worth it. Now that Apple has a bigger market share, and is much more visible in general in our culture, more viruses and malware are going to be geared toward them.
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The only reason there weren't really any viruses for Macs for so long was that they had such a low market share. For a while, about 2-3% of computers in use were Apple. That's not a big enough target to really be worth it. Now that Apple has a bigger market share, and is much more visible in general in our culture, more viruses and malware are going to be geared toward them.
You are absolutely correct. They've gained enough market share now where it's worth it for the bad guys to go after them.
Apple is going to have to take serious steps to improve the turnaround time for updates/patches, particularly for security vulnerabilities. There have been some glaring security holes they've left un-patched for months and months....they're not going to be able to keep getting away with that.
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I never believed the "low market share" crap because you have to believe that there was at least one guy hellbent on toppling Apple even from years ago.
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I never believed the "low market share" crap because you have to believe that there was at least one guy hellbent on toppling Apple even from years ago.
This surprises me too, although then I realize that this hypothetical man would probably need to buy a Mac to develop said virus on, and would have to learn a lot about them to develop an effective virus. So if your motivation is solely Mac hate, it's almost self defeating in a way. :lol
And if your motives are purely about getting the most gain for your effort, it makes more sense on the surface to go with the vastly more popular OS. Although the fact that the Apple virus market is "untapped" should have made it worth at least a look.
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The guys who make spyware and malware aren't bent on toppling anything, though. This business is about getting credit cards/banking info/SSN's/etc., and until recently, the few people owning Macs weren't worth the many hours it takes to understand and exploit an operating system.
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The guys who make spyware and malware aren't bent on toppling anything, though. This business is about getting credit cards/banking info/SSN's/etc., and until recently, the few people owning Macs weren't worth the many hours it takes to understand and exploit an operating system.
Not true there has been malware before and apple has patched it just like they patched this one. This is nothing new.
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That is true tjanuranus. The point is that that is not an effective way of dealing with viruses and malware when thousands of new ones are created daily as is the case for windows.
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Yeah. I didn't mean that malware was never made for Mac, it's just that there was never an abundance of it because why bother when there is an enormous base of Windows users?
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Well yes. But the point is that that is going to change now, so a better way is needed.
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I just don't see how this is any different than the malware that was out last year and got fixed. It's just one malware, it's happened before and it will happen again. At least they fix it.
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It's easy to fix it when it's only one basic problem like this one. If they had to deal with the same amount of viruses that PCs have targeted at them every day, it wouldn't be so neat and simple at all.
Apple's safety until now has primarily been its obscurity, not its security.
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It's easy to fix it when it's only one basic problem like this one. If they had to deal with the same amount of viruses that PCs have targeted at them every day, it wouldn't be so neat and simple at all.
Apple's safety until now has primarily been its obscurity, not its security.
If you read the article I linked to above, this is pretty much exactly what the guy was saying. Apple has never had "superior security" they've just been such a small player in the worldwide computing market that there was no real incentive to develop malware targeting their platform. Now that they're gaining more market share, they've become a much more popular target. Add the fact that they are extremely slow to patch security flaws and you have a serious problem for Apple users who tend to have this illusion in their minds that Apple computers "don't get viruses" That may have been true 10 or even 5 years ago, but not any more.
From the article I posted:
Older Macs are especially vulnerable. According to the latest Net Market Share data, 17% of Macs worldwide are running Leopard (OS X 10.5) and Tiger (OS X 10.4), older versions of OS X that are no longer officially supported. The Java update that blocks this exploit is available for Leopard, but at least one Leopard user I spoke with says it hasn’t been offered to his Mac via Apple Software Update. The last Java update offered to users of these older Mac versions was in June 2011. If you use any version of OS X before Snow Leopard (10.6) and you have Java installed (all versions of OS X before 10.7 include Java by default), you are vulnerable to this exploit and there is no patch available.
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KNH, don't forget to send me your iPad 2! ;D
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Don't run out dated software... Computers 101. Now if your computer is 6 years old and cant run lion that sucks of course but maybe it's time for a new one anyway. 6 years in computer years is ancient lol
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6 years in computer years is ancient lol
Not really. My desktop is 5 years old and it can still run modern games perfectly (and was really only a mid-range rig when I got it) .
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Sorry TJ but the average computer user isn't exactly clued up on computer security like you or I.
They don't update their computers with the latest security fixes and they don't think twice about installing legit software such as pornvirus.exe.
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I dunno Sigz, 6 years is a long-ass time. Especially considering people don't really upgrade their Macbooks.
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Don't run out dated software... Computers 101. Now if your computer is 6 years old and cant run lion that sucks of course but maybe it's time for a new one anyway. 6 years in computer years is ancient lol
This is an absolute ridiculous comment.
In the PC realm, my employer uses Windows XP machines for the grunts, which came out in 2003? Windows STILL patches and supports the OS. But by your logic TJ, the whole company needs to upgrade to Windows 7 ASAP.
In fact, I know Kirk has spoken on XP in another website's forum, as he is highly experienced in IT.
I HOPE my Mac runs for 6 years, or longer if it wants to. I refuse to upgrade to Lion because I am happy with Snow Leopard, and want optimum performance. The computer was bought in 2009. But I suppose then because I like to have value in what I bought, my computer deserves to be compromised in 3 years? Same as my employer in the PC realm?
The argument of upgrading frequently is one for consumerism. Computers at the home, hobby consumer level should be upgraded frequently only for hardcore gaming, which gets to be very expensive over the years.
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If you choose to run out dated software it will be out dated. It's your choice. Lion will run fine on a 2009 machine. I have a 2008 macbook pro and it works perfectly.
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Sorry TJ but the average computer user isn't exactly clued up on computer security like you or I.
They don't update their computers with the latest security fixes and they don't think twice about installing legit software such as pornvirus.exe.
(https://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmffzl45491qa4lcao1_400.png)
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The argument of upgrading frequently is one for consumerism.
Well yeah, this is Apple. :P
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of course you CAN keep a computer longer than 6 years but i personally wouldn't want to. I plan on keeping my laptop another 2 years and that will be 6 years. If it's still running perfectly fine and working great with the newest software then i'll keep it longer.
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of course you CAN keep a computer longer than 6 years but i personally wouldn't want to. I plan on keeping my laptop another 2 years and that will be 6 years. If it's still running perfectly fine and working great with the newest software then i'll keep it longer.
The only machine I ever owned that worked until the 6 year mark was my first dell tower. I got it 9 years ago and it still works.
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-Apple has a security hole that isn't fixed for older machines.
-Blame the user.
tjanuranus, one day you're going to fit right in as an Apple employee. :lol
ps. My Mac is over 4 years old running Snow Leopard, so I think I'm safe.
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I hope so. lol
anyway, a 4 year old machine can run lion. So imo it's on the user weather or not they want to upgrade. I mean it's 29 dollars and you get 4 licenses or something like that. c'mon.
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I'm just waiting for that Ivy Bridge to come out so I can buy my first MacBook Pro.
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Don't run out dated software... Computers 101. Now if your computer is 6 years old and cant run lion that sucks of course but maybe it's time for a new one anyway. 6 years in computer years is ancient lol
I know you're a hardcore Mac apologist, but did you even read anything I posted before your defenses? People have NO CHOICE but to run "outdated software" when Apple takes as long as 9 months in some cases to issue patches for those security flaws. They SUCK at keeping their stuff updated and need to improve in this area.
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I never said they were perfect by any means and there are a few things i would like them to improve on but what company is perfect? All i'm saying is it seems like every couple years a malware comes up and they fix it. Could be a LOT worse.
I understand your point but some people are saying they will run out dated software even when the fix is available, in that case it's on the user imo. That's all i was saying.
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tjanuranus please open you eyes for once and comprehend what we are saying... Apple needs to change the way they handle the malware/viruses/whatever because it won't be long before they'll start appearing way more frequently than "every couple of years". Like several new ones each day. Even a weekly security update wouldn't be effective in that case.
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tjanuranus please open you eyes for once and comprehend what we are saying... Apple needs to change the way they handle the malware/viruses/whatever because it won't be long before they'll start appearing way more frequently than "every couple of years". Like several new ones each day. Even a weekly security update wouldn't be effective in that case.
(https://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/1773/04/1773_1333987793.jpg)
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tjanuranus please open you eyes for once and comprehend what we are saying... Apple needs to change the way they handle the malware/viruses/whatever because it won't be long before they'll start appearing way more frequently than "every couple of years". Like several new ones each day. Even a weekly security update wouldn't be effective in that case.
(https://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/upload/2011/02/open_wide_what_do_you_mean_my/ccc42-05---Eyes-Wide-Open.jpeg)
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I don't think that's you. Your eyebrows are much thicker than that.
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tjanuranus please open you eyes for once and comprehend what we are saying... Apple needs to change the way they handle the malware/viruses/whatever because it won't be long before they'll start appearing way more frequently than "every couple of years". Like several new ones each day. Even a weekly security update wouldn't be effective in that case.
There's a pretty short and to-the-point write up about the exact issue I am referring to above right here. (https://www.macworld.com/article/1140704/java_vulnerability.html)
Apple needs to improve in this area because as they become more and more popular in the business desktop computing market, I know for a fact that I.T. Directors like me are going to put up some pretty strong objections to embracing the platform.
There's a cultural problem at Apple that I believe can be traced back to Steve Jobs. They do not like to admit to any kind of flaws in their products. I can still remember Steve Jobs on the stage asserting that the iPhone 4 "does not have a dropped call problem" when it had been demonstrated as an unmitigated fact that it DID have a dropped call problem.
This kind of mentality is what got Microsoft into so much hot water over their browser security problems and they have only recently started to become more proactive about it.
Apple needs to do the same. Leaving a glaring critical security hole in your software for 9 months is just not acceptable.
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Everyone in this thread but tjanuranus agrees with you kirk.
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Everyone in this thread but tjanuranus agrees with you kirk.
This.
Apple's usual denial strategy won't work here.
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https://money.cnn.com/2012/04/11/technology/apple-doj-ebooks/index.htm?iid=Lead
The U.S. Department of Justice on Wednesday brought a lawsuit against Apple and several publishing companies over a scheme to fix e-book prices
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That's been going on for a while now.
And also, on the topic of ebooks, I refuse to pay for ebooks which cost more than their hardback copies. I mean, Ł7 or 8 for an ebook with the hardback is Ł3.49? JESUS
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I don't mind paying a little more for an eBook because I see it as paying for a convenience. When we go on vacation now, we can take 50 books with us and carry them all in our pocket. To me, it's worth a couple of extra bucks to have that capability.
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I don't mind paying a little more for an eBook because I see it as paying for a convenience. When we go on vacation now, we can take 50 books with us and carry them all in our pocket. To me, it's worth a couple of extra bucks to have that capability.
I agree with what you're saying. But what if you had to decide whether to pay $80 for a TI-84 calculator, or $120 for the TI-84 app that did the same exact thing?
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This reminds me of when Ticketmaster still had ridiculously shady pricing schemes. It used to cost a few bucks more to print out your ticket than to have it mailed to you standard. Seriously? Shouldn't my printing out my ticket cost Ticketmaster less money?
It makes sense that the Department of Justice is attacking the ebook industry in this way. It wouldn't surprise me if these prices were artificial.
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Alright you guys I give up. I'm switching to windows so I never have to worry about malware again.
(https://images.wikia.com/callofduty/images/c/cf/Trollface.jpg)
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Alright you guys I give up. I'm switching to windows so I never have to worry about malware again.
And if that doesn't work, you could always buy a kickass virus scanner for said PC for $50 with the $1000 you saved from not buying the equivalent Mac. :tup
does that count as a double troll or something?
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They day that I actually have to install a virus scanner or any kind of norton product will be the day I seriously consider not using a Mac. That is not trolling either.
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You realize there's plenty of effective free and paid-for virus scanners that aren't Norton right?
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They day that I actually have to install a virus scanner or any kind of norton product will be the day I seriously consider not using a Mac. That is not trolling either.
So you'd just give up on computing altogether and join the Amish?
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Alright you guys I give up. I'm switching to windows so I never have to worry about malware again.
I'd recommend Ubuntu personally. Free security updates every day, and lots of free software to use.
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I'd just use my iPad and switch to Linux on my computer. My cousin is like a Linux guru he says he's never had to install any of that bullshit just like I never had to.
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I don't really see why it's that big of a deal. You download Avast, install it, and... that's it.
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I'd just use my iPad and switch to Linux on my computer. My cousin is like a Linux guru he says he's never had to install any of that bullshit just like I never had to.
I'm guessing you don't actually use a computer for much then, because you're basically shutting yourself off to most big software packages.
Pretty big overreaction to inconvenience yourself that much for such a minor thing as installing one extra program that hides away in the background. ;)
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This is a seriously bad reason to switch OS's.
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For the last 12 years I've never had to worry about what website I go to or what I'm downloading anything on the Internet. I've never had to install antivirus program I never had to deal with any bullshit or headaches and it's amazing and it's true Internet freedom. If the Mac eventually loses that then I will go to another platform that has it.
As far as what I do on the computer.... I write code make music surf the web etc. Honestly if this continues I could see Apple going toward a more closed system like iOS is now but for the Mac. Some people may hate it but it probably will be a much more beneficial system for the user. If that's the case maybe I will stay.
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So you'd rather learn an entire new OS than adapt your browsing behavior a tad? Sorry, but that seems silly.
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So you'd rather learn an entire new OS than adapt your browsing behavior a tad? Sorry, but that seems silly.
Yup.
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What an irrational amount of sacrifice vs the extremely minor inconvenience of installing one program that requires zero user interaction. Any OS is a potential target for viruses, but obviously only popular systems are going to be targeted, so really you're just choosing to intentionally doom yourself to computer obscurity out of principle, and a very weak one at that.
I hope malware programmers go after iOS next.
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I don't mind paying a little more for an eBook because I see it as paying for a convenience. When we go on vacation now, we can take 50 books with us and carry them all in our pocket. To me, it's worth a couple of extra bucks to have that capability.
The opposing argument would be of course that they don't have to pay production or distribution costs, and in theory, that should mean a less expensive product.
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I use the free Microsoft Security Essentials.
No hiccups so far. *crosses fingers*
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I haven't seen a virus or bit of spyware in a LONG time.
So I also don't have to worry about it.
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You guys think that I'm some apple fanboy who thinks they can do no wrong. That's not the case at all. They have problems just like everyone they are human beings. Now that Steve has left honestly I'm not as confident as I once was in the future. I mean a ton of talented people are still there but little things are coming out that I don't think would ever be out if Steve was alive, like the new appletv GUI.
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We don't think you're an Apple fanboy. We think you're overreacting when it comes to the prospect of Apple malware.
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a lot of people think he's an apple fanboy
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He IS an apple fanboy.
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Well I don't really know the guy. You're probably right.
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I just don't understand why anyone would think antivirus software is such a hassle. I don't think I've even touched Avast in close to two years.
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I'm an apple fanboy for the most part but I'm not someone who thinks they can do no wrong. That's pretty much what i was saying. The new appletv Ui for example is ugly and not slick looking or appealing which would NEVER happen if steve jobs was alive. Actually the story is that interface was rejected by Jobs a few years ago. The old interface was much nicer looking.
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I just don't understand why anyone would think antivirus software is such a hassle. I don't think I've even touched Avast in close to two years.
*forgets to turn volume down*
"VIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED!"
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I just don't understand why anyone would think antivirus software is such a hassle. I don't think I've even touched Avast in close to two years.
*forgets to turn volume down*
"VIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED!"
Turn on silent/gaming mode and you'll never heard it again.
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You'll never heard it again
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I just don't understand why anyone would think antivirus software is such a hassle. I don't think I've even touched Avast in close to two years.
Open it once, and it'll never be open again.
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(https://i.imgur.com/aYwqP.jpg)
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Rumor on the street is that Apple has a 7 inch iPad ready to hit the market around the $300 range. Wouldn't surprise me if it's true and will probably be released along side with the iPhone5
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New malware for macs. This one spreads through Microsoft Office documents and allows the developers of the trojan to access your machine remotely and manually search through all your data.
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Rumor on the street is that Apple has a 7 inch iPad ready to hit the market around the $300 range. Wouldn't surprise me if it's true and will probably be released along side with the iPhone5
Chino, come on. How many times have you heard this rumour and spread it here?
The only thing I want to see right now is the new macbookpro and macbook air line.
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My Macbook Pro had an incident yesterday with a bit of Coca-Cola. The CPU came out completely unscathed (to my surprise/joy), but a few keys are now all sticky. Tips?
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Remove as much hardware as you can, shut down the computer, and clean with a wet paper towel. that should work. Be sure to shut it down first though.
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And remove the battery.
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My Macbook Pro had an incident yesterday with a bit of Coca-Cola. The CPU came out completely unscathed (to my surprise/joy), but a few keys are now all sticky. Tips?
Just run it a nice hot bath.
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You can always rely on Rob for useful, practical advice. :tup
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Don't like to brag, but yeah, pretty much! Practical Rob, they call me. Which is alliteration, if you think about it, 'cos a P's just an R with one of its legs chopped off, and if I've learnt nothing else about equal opportunity empoyment I've learnt that you mustn't discriminate just 'cos someone's got a leg off.
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I :heart Steve jobs...
Among the many anecdotes about Steve Jobs included in Ken Segall's new book, Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success, one in particular stands out for its glimpse into Jobs' character, providing evidence of his willingness to engage in playful ideas when the mood suited him. The story takes place relatively soon after the launch of the original iMac, with Jobs wanting to find a high-profile way to celebrate the sale of the millionth one to mark Apple's comeback from the dead.
Steve's idea was to do a Willy Wonka with it. Just as Wonka did in the movie, Steve wanted to put a golden certificate representing the millionth iMac inside the box of one iMac, and publicize that fact. Whoever opened the lucky iMac box would be refunded the purchase price and be flown to Cupertino, where he or she (and, presumably, the accompanying family) would be taken on a tour of the Apple campus.
Steve had already instructed his internal creative group to design a prototype golden certificate, which he shared with us. But the killer was that Steve wanted to go all out on this. He wanted to meet the lucky winner in full Willy Wonka garb. Yes, complete with top hat and tails.
Those in the room with Jobs were amused by his excitement over the idea, but less than enthusiastic about seeing it come to fruition. Fortunately for those looking for a way out of it, California law required that all such sweepstake contests allow entry without requiring a purchase. Given that people would then be able to enter the contest without purchasing an iMac and there in fact being a very good chance that the winner wouldn't be an iMac owner or even an Apple fan, Jobs' pet idea for a Willy Wonka-themed prize was cast aside.
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He then would have offered them a job at Apple only to fire them a week later in the elevator for sneezing asymmetrically.
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true
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I'm out of town and posting from my iPad, most uncomfortable thing to type, only good for browsing IMO.
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I'm out of town and posting from my iPad, most uncomfortable thing to type, only good for browsing IMO.
I'm replying from my iPad, I feel no discomfort, it makes browsing a pleasure.
IMO.
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*Snip - Willy Wonka type idea*
I will say, that is fantastic.
Jobs was definitely a fascinating individual, regardless of what one thought of him. One of my favorite Jobs stories is from his biography;
One of his friends had a girlfriend or something (I'm going entirely on memory here), who had joined a cult. Steve drove to the cult headquarters, marched in, found her, brought her out, and drove her home. But he didn't just drive her home. He switched to the passenger seat half way, because he was tired. She didn't know how to drive a standard, but he showed her, and as soon as she got the car up to 60mph, he fell asleep in the passenger seat, because he was confident that his instruction on how to drive a standard was sufficient. Needless to say, they made it back.
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He then would have offered them a job at Apple only to fire them a week later in the elevator for sneezing asymmetrically.
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKKKKKK.
(https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/194/imagejle.jpg)
You can't really tell by the pic, but about 1/3 of the screen is spider webbed.
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holy fuck how did that happen?
EDIT: I know a buddy who got his screen replaced for $150 so maybe you can shop around and find something similar
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKKKKKK.
(https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/194/imagejle.jpg)
You can't really tell by the pic, but about 1/3 of the screen is spider webbed.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_ODcECzxGQ/T4sMKffGa8I/AAAAAAAAA88/LnQ8Dvynqbg/s1600/michael-scott-no.gif)
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:lol I love that gif
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:lol I love that gif
yeah me too lol.
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKKKKKK.
(https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/194/imagejle.jpg)
You can't really tell by the pic, but about 1/3 of the screen is spider webbed.
Holy shit man, that sucks.
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holy fuck how did that happen?
EDIT: I know a buddy who got his screen replaced for $150 so maybe you can shop around and find something similar
I dropped it on the tile floor whilst taking a shit. I was typing a PM to Barto, so I blame him. Apple wanted $250 to take the broken one and give me a refurbished relacement...... fuck that. I went on ebay and got a new digitizer. After watching several youtube vids, I'm confident I can change it myself.
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110834657375&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:3160
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Wow really? I thought they were more resilient then that - its must have landed the wrong way.
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Wow really? I thought they were more resilient then that - its must have landed the wrong way.
A tile floor is a pretty solid surface to hit, and it looks like it copped the edge right on too.
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Wow really? I thought they were more resilient then that - its must have landed the wrong way.
A tile floor is a pretty solid surface to hit, and it looks like it copped the edge right on too.
Yeah :'( I dropped it once before but it landed on it's back. This time it landed almost directly on the corner.
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Ouch. That happened to my friend's phone (he dropped it pretty hard on concrete).
He refused to replace the screen/get a new phone so he ended up just cutting his fingers all the time while using it. Also, one day, he left his phone's alarm buzzing for ages because he couldn't be bothered to switch it off and when he finally got out of bed to stop it, the phone's screen was in an even worse shape than before and there was tiny bits of glass all over the place because the phone had been vibrating for so long.
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Ouch. That happened to my friend's phone (he dropped it pretty hard on concrete).
He refused to replace the screen/get a new phone so he ended up just cutting his fingers all the time while using it. Also, one day, he left his phone's alarm buzzing for ages once because he couldn't be bothered to switch it off and when he finally got out of bed to stop it, the phone's screen was in an even worse shape then before and there was tiny bits of glass all over the place because the phone had been vibrating for so long.
What the hell
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Damn, Chino, that's a bummer. I actually just came here to post this picture of my iPad3 against the LCD on my laptop and my 26" ViewSonic LCD.
(https://www.kirksnosehair.com/pics/ipad3.jpg)
Even in this crappy compressed JPG you can see the difference in the display quality, which I have to admit is quite a stunning display.
I had this iPad3 side by side with my iPad2 last night and the difference in the display is pretty noticeable there too
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Yeah. I used a thrid generation yesterday in the first time. I was doing a bunch of side by side comparisons with my second generation... the new screen is beautiful.
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Damn, Chino, that's a bummer. I actually just came here to post this picture of my iPad3 against the LCD on my laptop and my 26" ViewSonic LCD.
(https://www.kirksnosehair.com/pics/ipad3.jpg)
Even in this crappy compressed JPG you can see the difference in the display quality, which I have to admit is quite a stunning display.
I had this iPad3 side by side with my iPad2 last night and the difference in the display is pretty noticeable there too
Now old man don't forget I will take the old one of your hands.
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Ouch. That happened to my friend's phone (he dropped it pretty hard on concrete).
He refused to replace the screen/get a new phone so he ended up just cutting his fingers all the time while using it. Also, one day, he left his phone's alarm buzzing for ages once because he couldn't be bothered to switch it off and when he finally got out of bed to stop it, the phone's screen was in an even worse shape then before and there was tiny bits of glass all over the place because the phone had been vibrating for so long.
What the hell
He's an idiot.
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Damn, Chino, that's a bummer. I actually just came here to post this picture of my iPad3 against the LCD on my laptop and my 26" ViewSonic LCD.
(https://www.kirksnosehair.com/pics/ipad3.jpg)
Even in this crappy compressed JPG you can see the difference in the display quality, which I have to admit is quite a stunning display.
I had this iPad3 side by side with my iPad2 last night and the difference in the display is pretty noticeable there too
The retina display is an IPS, isn't it? I know the iPhone 4 screen looks fantastic too. Much better picture than the nasty TN panels that get churned out.
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Yeah, Blob, it's IPS
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Very nice. As you said, even in that pic, the difference is clear. It's much more vibrant in colour, with great contrast.
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The display is nice and I'm sure the apps will catch up with the resolution eventually, but it's pretty annoying that most of my favorite apps look like shit on the new iPad. For example, the CNN app, which looks great on the iPad2 and can be viewed in portrait or landscape mode, looks completely different on the iPad3 and can only be viewed in portrait mode :\
When you first load it, the actual app only takes up about 1/4 of the screen:
(https://www.kirksnosehair.com/pics/ipad3a.jpg)
When you tap the "2x" button, it expands it, but in the process it makes the video and graphics all blocky and shitty looking - hard to tell from this picture how bad it looks
(https://www.kirksnosehair.com/pics/ipad3b.jpg)
It's kind of like viewing non-HD videos on an HD television.
I know the app developers will catch up eventually. Our Apple guy is busy re-tooling our HVAC Controls App as I type this, but if Apple wasn't all cloak and dagger all the time, they could have released the video specs to developers ahead of time so that the apps would be ready when the device was released.
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I've never seen the display do that unless I am using the iphone/ipod version of something.
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If Sam Jackson really does use Siri, do you think he asked it, even just once, what Marcellus Wallace looks like?
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Woohoo! :biggrin:
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Awesome! But the screen is still broken. After you finished the install, the screen appears stuck on an image from a cheap B-movie. ???
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To me, it looks more like a screenshot of a movie that tries to make up for a mediocre everything with good CGI.
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Wow great job!
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I've never seen the display do that unless I am using the iphone/ipod version of something.
Turns out you were right about the CNN app, weird because I don't have that one on my phone, but it was backed up on my computer.
I downloaded the iPad app and it looks fine
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4&feature=related decided to watch the original iPhone unveiling today, pretty neat to watch and see a lot of the mobile advances that we've made and what they thought was groundbreaking and what we see as totally obsolete now, it was just 5 years ago too!
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MacBook Pro stopped working the other day. Turns out my graphics card is fucked, which is attached to the motherboard, so I had to have the whole thing replaced. Going to cost me $310. :(
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Yeah, it's usually good to look for a non integrated card.
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If you're buying a macbook pro, I don't think Apple makes them with non-integrated chips.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4&feature=related decided to watch the original iPhone unveiling today, pretty neat to watch and see a lot of the mobile advances that we've made and what they thought was groundbreaking and what we see as totally obsolete now, it was just 5 years ago too!
That was a great moment. Advanced internet consumption forever with no one seeing it coming. Jobs did a great preservation (& MadTVs parody) of the work that Ive and all those involved laboured on.
I know you are a realistic ERR critical Apple user Kirk /Barry, so cool to see your sentiment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4&feature=related decided to watch the original iPhone unveiling today, pretty neat to watch and see a lot of the mobile advances that we've made and what they thought was groundbreaking and what we see as totally obsolete now, it was just 5 years ago too!
I'd never seen it before, so it was really cool to watch for the first time. Steve Jobs was such a visionary.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4&feature=related decided to watch the original iPhone unveiling today, pretty neat to watch and see a lot of the mobile advances that we've made and what they thought was groundbreaking and what we see as totally obsolete now, it was just 5 years ago too!
I'd never seen it before, so it was really cool to watch for the first time. Steve Jobs was such a visionary.
Definitely one of the most important people of the late 20th century and 21st century! People may not agree with the way he ran his company, but he did one hell of a job and changed the world as we know it, and yes you may believe that is an overstatement but I believe it is true.
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Apple just released their new Macbook Pro and Air line. These are, to me, the best personal computers on earth. Absolutely stunning.
https://www.engadget.com/2012/06/11/apple-wwdc-2012-liveblog/
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Apple just released their new Macbook Pro and Air line. These are, to me, the best personal computers on earth. Absolutely stunning.
https://www.engadget.com/2012/06/11/apple-wwdc-2012-liveblog/
All I'm seeing is a scrolling list of stuff about iPads or something.
What is so great about these new Macbooks? Are they 20% shinier?
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My god, iOS6... Maps looks really awesome. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Another OS X? Blech, I'm still on Snow Leopard.
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Another OS X? Blech, I'm still on Snow Leopard.
Me too, and to be honest don't want to upgrade to Lion at all...
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Apple basically releases a service pack every year to 18 months, but they call it a "new" OS and charge for it.
Microsoft releases a new OS once a decade with service packs in between. They charge more (generally) for the OS, but the service packs between releases are free.
Cumulatively speaking, if you buy all of Apple's upgrades, like just about everything Apple sells, you will pay a premium.
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Apple just released their new Macbook Pro and Air line. These are, to me, the best personal computers on earth. Absolutely stunning.
https://www.engadget.com/2012/06/11/apple-wwdc-2012-liveblog/
All I'm seeing is a scrolling list of stuff about iPads or something.
What is so great about these new Macbooks? Are they 20% shinier?
Its considerably thinner, at the expense of reducing trivial things like firewire, some of the usb ports, wired LAN and an optical drive to external dongles which you have to pay extra for.
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Trivial to some but I don't think sacrificing practicality to meet the "thinner, smaller" mindset is always a good thing. You're basically paying a premium for subtracted features, unless only the Air is the one getting the parts chopped off.
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Don't feel like reading through all of that. Did they announce a release date for the new Iphone?
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Don't feel like reading through all of that. Did they announce a release date for the new Iphone?
What he said.
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Don't feel like reading through all of that. Did they announce a release date for the new Iphone?
What he said.
Of course not. We know iOS 6 is coming out this fall, but no news of any new iPhone. Any news of a new iPhone right now is just pure conjecture based on previous trends.
What was most exciting about this WWDC was, ironically, not software but the new MacBook Pro w/ Retina Display. The display has over 5 million pixels total, 3 million more than an HDTV. It's extremely impressive from any perspective.
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Figured out I get a free phone upgrade in October and that my Mid 2010 White Unibody Macbook can take 8GB of Memory, I will using iOS6 and Mac OSX Mountain Lion to its fullest capabilities possible :) well except for the Retina screen on the new Macbook, but software wise I am! :tup
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Trivial to some but I don't think sacrificing practicality to meet the "thinner, smaller" mindset is always a good thing. You're basically paying a premium for subtracted features, unless only the Air is the one getting the parts chopped off.
I assumed XJDenton was being sarcastic. :|
It can't be anywhere near the "best personal computer on earth" as emindead said when it's lacking basic computer features.
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Trivial to some but I don't think sacrificing practicality to meet the "thinner, smaller" mindset is always a good thing. You're basically paying a premium for subtracted features, unless only the Air is the one getting the parts chopped off.
I assumed XJDenton was being sarcastic. :|
You would be correct. I agree with orcus that they seem to be compromising on features purely for the sake of aesthetic and lightness, which while understandable on the air seems counter-productive on the pro, which is more like a desktop replacement system, and most industry people who would buy it would probably need those features.
Then again I hated the idea of the iPad and that sold a metric fuckton, so I dont think I really represent apple's target audience that well.
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I'm so glad they did this refresh, since my 2009 White Macbook is seriously showing its age.
I had my eye on the Retina Macbook but $2200 is a hard pill to swallow, so I'll probably get that 13 inch Macbook Pro.
Does anybody know if there's a big advantage between the I5 and I7 chip sets?
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If you're not doing professional video editing or something and need to compress stuff all the time then no. i5 will do just fine. Added bonus is less heat and longer battery life if you go for the i5.
You would be correct. I agree with orcus that they seem to be compromising on features purely for the sake of aesthetic and lightness, which while understandable on the air seems counter-productive on the pro, which is more like a desktop replacement system, and most industry people who would buy it would probably need those features.
Then again I hated the idea of the iPad and that sold a metric fuckton, so I dont think I really represent apple's target audience that well.
I see your point on the removed features though as often the case with Apple they are trying to innovate, trying to change the industry. Even in industry surroundings things like ethernet and CDs/DVDs are getting fewer and alternatives are getting easier and cheaper so they are trying to play into that.
I think the 'new generation' MacBook Pro is a great idea but here in Belgium €2280 (yes they just changed the $ to € here and then added some) which is about $2850 for the cheapest model (thus 256 GB storage) and you can't upgrade the cheapest model to 512 GB to so you have to buy the €2900 one which is $3620 for 512GB.
Very, very nice concept but insane pricing.
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As kári said, the i5 is perfectly fine for most people, for gaming or normal usage.
Unless you do rendering and video work (or something similarly ridiculously CPU intensive), then it's probably best to put that extra money to better use and go with the i5.
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nvm I misread :)
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On the subject of the macbook pro, someone broke one open:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display-Teardown/9462/3
Explains why the upgrades are so expensive. Everything is proprietary, and everything up to and including the ram is soldered to the motherboard, so each model is a different motherboard. It also makes future upgradesor repairs on the system pretty much impossible.
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everything up to and including the ram is soldered to the motherboard, so each model is a different motherboard.
WTF
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everything up to and including the ram is soldered to the motherboard, so each model is a different motherboard.
WTF
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Its not an uncommon practice in ultraportable systems which have a premium of space, but IMO the pro shouldn't be an ultraportable so shouldnt really have this problem.
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I think the Air was the ultraportable. What the hell, man.
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i was planning to get a mac for college, and when i first heard about the new pro i was excited, but the price and lack of a disc drive ruins it for me. hoping therell be some nice price cuts on the regular pro, though not sure what to do regarding processor and hard drive size, but i guess ill figure it out..
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I don't understand why apple didn't put an optical into the new Pro. Stupid move, IMO. I know we're in the digital age, where everyone downloads stuff from the internet, but I like to rip my CDs to iTunes and watch DVDs on my macbook pro and I'm sure other people do too.
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I don't understand why apple didn't put an optical into the new Pro. Stupid move, IMO. I know we're in the digital age, where everyone downloads stuff from the internet, but I like to rip my CDs to iTunes and watch DVDs on my macbook pro and I'm sure other people do too.
Then you can get a "regular" MBP which are exactly the same as before except for a spec bump. The only MBP without an optical drive is the "Next generation MBP" which is the thinner one with the retina screen.
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I know that. It just seems like a bad idea, that's all.
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Orbitz Worldwide Inc. has found that people who use Apple Inc.'s Mac computers spend as much as 30% more a night on hotels, so the online travel agency is starting to show them different, and sometimes costlier, travel options than Windows visitors see. (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/orbitz-mac-users-steered-pricier-040100900.html)
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LOL
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Orbitz Worldwide Inc. has found that people who use Apple Inc.'s Mac computers spend as much as 30% more a night on hotels, so the online travel agency is starting to show them different, and sometimes costlier, travel options than Windows visitors see. (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/orbitz-mac-users-steered-pricier-040100900.html)
DAMNIT.. i was JUST about to post this >:|
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Dear Apple,
Fuck off.
Sincerely,
Everyone who doesn't think you can patent everything
https://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/tech/gaming-gadgets/judge-apple-stops-samsung-galaxy-sales/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 (https://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/tech/gaming-gadgets/judge-apple-stops-samsung-galaxy-sales/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
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Apple do love to throw their weight around.
All of these patent lawsuits between companies are crazy right now, and not just from Apple's side either. The patents that Apple are arguing seemed to be pretty trivial though (from what little the I could gather from the links), so I suspect they're just fishing.
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Given that the judge stopped the sales of the Samsung tablet, there's actually got to be something legit to this lawsuit.
The real problem is not companies suing over seemingly trivial patents, it's that they are allowed to obtain patents on trivial things. If I was granted a patent, I'd sue my competitor who was infringing on it, no matter how trivial it may seem. I wouldn't give my competitor a break.
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Whats the best method to unlock an iPhone 3GS on iOS 5.1.1? Go Go Go :tup
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:rollin
Whats the best method to unlock an iPhone 3GS on iOS 5.1.1? Go Go Go :tup
I used cydia on my iPad. It was very simple and I could play my pokemans.
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Thats Jailbreaking right? I'm looking for a Carrier unlock. I sold my friend a phone and she's not on the same carrier I'm on so I need a good unlock tool to do it.
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Does anyone know how to set up an iPhone on a new computer?
I just got a new computer. I already authorized iTunes and transferred the purchases from my iPhone, but when I hit sync nothing really happens. Everything is still on there and uneditable. I thought syncing it would basically clear the iPhone. Do I have to completely restore it? Would that delete the contacts off the phone as well?
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Whats the best method to unlock an iPhone 3GS on iOS 5.1.1? Go Go Go :tup
Quite my problem too. Are you on AT&T? They now offer unlocks.
Afaik, the current ultrasnow unlock for the 3gs requires the iPad baseband, which will brick the phone's GPS. As of now, I'm waiting for a jailbreak that will downgrade the phone to the original baseband.
Or you can buy one of those IMEI unlocks. They're quite costly though.
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Does anyone know how to set up an iPhone on a new computer?
I just got a new computer. I already authorized iTunes and transferred the purchases from my iPhone, but when I hit sync nothing really happens. Everything is still on there and uneditable. I thought syncing it would basically clear the iPhone. Do I have to completely restore it? Would that delete the contacts off the phone as well?
it has to do with it being a different xml file for you iTunes library. If you are running iOS5 your contacts are automatically backed up to the cloud. Best thing to do is go to Settings - iCloud - back up now. on your iPhone. Just to make SURE everything is backed up properly. Then restore it to factory defaults installing the newest OS. When it gives you the option in iTunes select - Restore from iCloud backup. That should fix everything assuming you are on iOS 5.
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Thanks! I guess I'll make that my project for this weekend.
Restoring factory settings won't mess up anything having to do with the phone functionality part, right?
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No just make sure you back up to iCloud like i mentioned. When you restore it, it installs the newest OS so you won't miss any features.
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Just installed Mountain Lion on my 2010 White Unibody Macbook, It's running surprisingly well. I'm really loving this actually. Much nicer than Snow Leopard. I can't wait to quadruple the RAM in this thing to make it run even better :tup
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iPhone 5 ???
https://gizmodo.com/5929914/alleged-iphone-5-parts-assembled-is-this-the-new-iphone
If so, it's quite sexy.
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Looks like an iphone 4.
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Balls Balls Balls... shattered my digitizer again. This time I drove away with the iPad on the roof of my car :facepalm:
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WHAAAAAT?
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Still no word on the release of the IPhone5?
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Balls Balls Balls... shattered my digitizer again. This time I drove away with the iPad on the roof of my car :facepalm:
Guess it needed more iPadding.
Sorry.
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WHAAAAAT?
I'm a fucking idiot
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iPhone 5 ???
https://gizmodo.com/5929914/alleged-iphone-5-parts-assembled-is-this-the-new-iphone
If so, it's quite sexy.
Balls Balls Balls... shattered my digitizer again. This time I drove away with the iPad on the roof of my car :facepalm:
I really like the look of that actually, yeah It looks slightly different, but I do really enjoy the look of the 4 and the two tone matte metal look is quite something and the 4" screen is the perfect size for me. I wouldn't want much bigger
and dude that sucks :( When lifeproof gets these released I recommend investing in one of these. It's a waterproof, shockproof, snow proof and dirt proof case. It's not bulky at all compared to other good cases and i know from experience they are totally waterproof https://www.lifeproof.com/ipad (https://www.lifeproof.com/ipad)
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I'm surprised they're changing the aspect ratio (if this is legit). At least with the upgrade to the Retina Display, it was only a matter of pixel density. Having black bars on the bottom and top of every legacy app doesn't seem like an Apple design.
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Still no word on the release of the IPhone5?
There'll be no official word until like a week before the event probably in October.
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For the record I hate these new apple ads. Steve was a genius when it came to marketing. It's clear he is missed right now watching these ads.
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I miss the mac vs pc ad's with Justin Long
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Still no word on the release of the IPhone5?
There'll be no official word until like a week before the event probably in October.
Damnit. I want to get a new phone when I move.......you know, tomorrow, but I want the new Iphone. Damnit.
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Everyone knows there will be a new phone in september/october. Just like last year.
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Everyone knows there will be a new phone in september/october. Just like last year.
If there isn't one announced by September TJ, I am coming after you.
Ipromise.
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On October 4, 2011, in Cupertino, California, Apple announced the iPhone 4S. On October 7, 2011, it became available for preorder in seven initial countries (United States, Canada, Australia, United Kingdom, France, Germany and Japan) with the first delivery date set for October 14, 2011 and available on that same day for direct in-store sales in those countries.
So expect a similar time frame i would guess.
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For the record I hate these new apple ads. Steve was a genius when it came to marketing. It's clear he is missed right now watching these ads.
I doubt he had a direct hand in the commercials.
As for the latest batch, they were pretty terrible. The one on the airplane was all right, because it actually showed how simple macs are supposed to be without treating their users like COMPLETE fuckwads. The other two...didn't.
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Crap, I wanted to download Lion, and it is just Mountain Lion that is available. My computer can run 10.8, but it is on the bottom of the spec food chain.
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For the record I hate these new apple ads. Steve was a genius when it came to marketing. It's clear he is missed right now watching these ads.
I doubt he had a direct hand in the commercials.
As for the latest batch, they were pretty terrible. The one on the airplane was all right, because it actually showed how simple macs are supposed to be without treating their users like COMPLETE fuckwads. The other two...didn't.
Reading his biography, it sounded like, especially after his return, he was pretty heavily involved, and more or less had final say over what ads they would run.
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https://www.pcworld.com/article/260304/apple_patent_application_reveals_ipad_smart_cover.html
Apple Patent Application Reveals iPad Smart Cover
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I miss the mac vs pc ad's with Justin Long
You're the only one. The amount of false information in those ads was incredible.
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I miss the mac vs pc ad's with Justin Long
You're the only one. The amount of false information in those ads was incredible.
I give them credit for creating one of the most memorable ad campaigns of recent times, but the lies in those ads got more and more blatant as they wore the idea out.
If those ads were to believe, then PC users are all businessmen still on 286s creating spreadsheets in DOS inbetween error messages, while fending off viruses with our 8" floppy disks.
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Looks like an iphone 4.
That's what I thought.
Cool, it's a bit bigger, but its not going to make me hate my iPhone 4S like I thought it was.
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Looks like an iphone 4.
That's what I thought.
Cool, it's a bit bigger, but its not going to make me hate my iPhone 4S like I thought it was.
What if it has a battery comparable to the droid razr max? That's more of a selling point to me than the screen size.
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Jeez, the 4s already borders on being too big for my tastes, will be avoiding this new one for as long as possible if it really is bigger
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Really? The iPhone is one of the smallest smart phones out there. That's the best part about it. It seems like everyone else is trying to have a huge screen.
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Just got a MacBook pro, and I've been trying to use the migration assistant, but the first time I tried it stopped after about 5 hours, with my pc saying it had blocked the software for whatever reason. I unblocked it and waited for it to reconnect, but it never did. Anyone know what's up with that? I restarted it and it's been going so far, just hoping it doesn't do it again.
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What if it has a battery comparable to the droid razr max? That's more of a selling point to me than the screen size.
To be perfectly honest, I don't have many issues with the battery. It lasts me the entire day for the most part. Could it be better, yeah, but if iPhone 5 has better battery life, it won't hurt my feelings.
And I echo what KNH said. I don't really like the bigger screens. Though from what I heard, it's taller, not wider.
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What if it has a battery comparable to the droid razr max? That's more of a selling point to me than the screen size.
To be perfectly honest, I don't have many issues with the battery. It lasts me the entire day for the most part. Could it be better, yeah, but if iPhone 5 has better battery life, it won't hurt my feelings.
And I echo what KNH said. I don't really like the bigger screens. Though from what I heard, it's taller, not wider.
https://mashable.com/2012/08/03/iphone5-screen/
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Really? The iPhone is one of the smallest smart phones out there. That's the best part about it. It seems like everyone else is trying to have a huge screen.
I'm OK with the size of the 4s. I don't want a bigger phone. Thinner is fine, but if it's vertically or horizontally larger, I won't be interested in getting one until I absolutely have no choice. The weight of the device is not what I am concerned about, but the bigger these devices become, the less convenient they are to carry. I held out as long as I could with my flip-phone because it was small enough to fit in my shirt pocket, very light and all I really use my phone for is.......
wait for it.....
Phone calls :lol
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"She was born in the 80s - she still uses her phone as a phone!" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8uJswc2Tc&t=17s)
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"She was born in the 80s - she still uses her phone as a phone!" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8uJswc2Tc&t=17s)
greatest show in the world.
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Remember, Macs can’t do real work, they’re only for useless artsy stuff like landing on Mars. https://t.co/1JWV5J6D
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Considering how many people were in that room for different tasks, they could have been doing anything though. Get back to me when there's a shot of what's on the screen. For all we know, they were just watching the live feed. :lol
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in b4 they were just making all the facebook/twitter postings.
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in b4 they were just making all the facebook/twitter postings.
Lol!
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https://upstart.bizjournals.com/news/technology/2012/08/07/apple-pulls-youtube-app-from-ios-6.html
Youtube will no longer be a pre installed app on iOS6
The rivalry between Apple (NASDAQ: APPL) and Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) has been getting progressively worse for a while, but now it is getting ugly.
Apple pulled the built-in YouTube app from its new version of iOS 6, the software that runs the newest versions of the iPhone and iPad set to release this fall. On Monday, Apple released a test version of iOS 6 to a select group of developers, and they quickly realized the YouTube app was not pre-installed.
The YouTube app has been built into Apple mobile products since 2007—why change now? Apple’s official response to The New York Times:
Our license to include the YouTube app in iOS has ended. Customers can use YouTube in the Safari browser and Google is working on a new YouTube app to be on the App Store.
AllThingsD promptly pointed out because anyone can create an YouTube app using YouTube’s API so Apple's response is ominous at best :
So something’s broken here: Either Apple really doesn’t want to make its own version of a YouTube app, or Google really doesn’t want Apple to make one.
The relationship between Apple and YouTube parent company Google has deteriorated since the YouTube partnership with the iPhone began in 2007. Google launched Android, Steve Jobs threatened everything up to “thermonuclear war” to destroy it, and Apple confirmed the replacement of Google Maps with its own maps app for the upcoming iOS6.
Though the souring relationship undoubtedly had a role to play, a source — an industry executive who works with both Apple and Google— told AllThingsD YouTube seeks more control over how its app is used and over the ability to show ads through the app:
YouTube [has] decided they didn’t want third-parties building apps,” says my source. “Their strategy has changed. They want to control their destiny more.”
Without the YouTube app built in, iPhone and iPad users desiring an app to access YouTube video content will have to download the HTML web app Google released in 2010 or download the VEVO app. Both are powered by Google.
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Not that this is a huge deal...but somehow now I feel like a Google phone might do better than an iPhone if they made one.
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Considering how many people were in that room for different tasks, they could have been doing anything though. Get back to me when there's a shot of what's on the screen. For all we know, they were just watching the live feed. :lol
Since OSX is pure unix, they probably had 14 command prompts open. There's a nice Kernal underneath all the shiny stuff on top.
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Not that this is a huge deal...but somehow now I feel like a Google phone might do better than an iPhone if they made one.
Google made a phone already.
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So Conan got into the Samsun vs Apple Debate. I remember a while way back he made a video mocking apple a bit. Nice to see he always calls it like he sees it.
https://youtu.be/YciM_54HzZk
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The lawsuits on all sides are complete bull. All companies take good ideas from every other company, they should just admit that and move on.
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To quote Steve Jobs quoting Picasso; "Good artists copy, great artists steal".
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The lawsuits on all sides are complete bull. All companies take good ideas from every other company, they should just admit that and move on.
Companies make millions of dollars on IP suits, I don't think they could afford to just move on.
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I'd be willing to guess that on average, each company is suing each other enough that any wins are offset by the losses.
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What if it has a battery comparable to the droid razr max? That's more of a selling point to me than the screen size.
To be perfectly honest, I don't have many issues with the battery. It lasts me the entire day for the most part. Could it be better, yeah, but if iPhone 5 has better battery life, it won't hurt my feelings.
You iPhone users are spoiled speaking of even better battery life. Us Android users can have our phone screen turned off, and believe nothing is running in the background; three hours later, 40% of the battery GONE!
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Considering how many people were in that room for different tasks, they could have been doing anything though. Get back to me when there's a shot of what's on the screen. For all we know, they were just watching the live feed. :lol
Since OSX is pure unix, they probably had 14 command prompts open. There's a nice Kernal underneath all the shiny stuff on top.
Oh, yes. For me, as a comp sci student, OSX's Unix architecture and terminal alone make it better and far more useful than any Windows OS.
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any of you Apple people out there know a good way to host an iWeb site for free?
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What if it has a battery comparable to the droid razr max? That's more of a selling point to me than the screen size.
To be perfectly honest, I don't have many issues with the battery. It lasts me the entire day for the most part. Could it be better, yeah, but if iPhone 5 has better battery life, it won't hurt my feelings.
You iPhone users are spoiled speaking of even better battery life. Us Android users can have our phone screen turned off, and believe nothing is running in the background; three hours later, 40% of the battery GONE!
Except that there are a ton of different phones and tablets that use the Android OS, so all that means is that the specific phone you own is shitty. There are many Android devices that have great battery life.
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What if it has a battery comparable to the droid razr max? That's more of a selling point to me than the screen size.
To be perfectly honest, I don't have many issues with the battery. It lasts me the entire day for the most part. Could it be better, yeah, but if iPhone 5 has better battery life, it won't hurt my feelings.
The Droid Razr Maxx has like 22 hours of talk time and 15 days of stand by. That's pretty impressive in my books.
You iPhone users are spoiled speaking of even better battery life. Us Android users can have our phone screen turned off, and believe nothing is running in the background; three hours later, 40% of the battery GONE!
Except that there are a ton of different phones and tablets that use the Android OS, so all that means is that the specific phone you own is shitty. There are many Android devices that have great battery life.
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What if it has a battery comparable to the droid razr max? That's more of a selling point to me than the screen size.
To be perfectly honest, I don't have many issues with the battery. It lasts me the entire day for the most part. Could it be better, yeah, but if iPhone 5 has better battery life, it won't hurt my feelings.
You iPhone users are spoiled speaking of even better battery life. Us Android users can have our phone screen turned off, and believe nothing is running in the background; three hours later, 40% of the battery GONE!
Except that there are a ton of different phones and tablets that use the Android OS, so all that means is that the specific phone you own is shitty. There are many Android devices that have great battery life.
I have used three different Android devices, two were mine day in, day out. Crappy battery life across all three. It is the nature of the OS I think.
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What if it has a battery comparable to the droid razr max? That's more of a selling point to me than the screen size.
To be perfectly honest, I don't have many issues with the battery. It lasts me the entire day for the most part. Could it be better, yeah, but if iPhone 5 has better battery life, it won't hurt my feelings.
You iPhone users are spoiled speaking of even better battery life. Us Android users can have our phone screen turned off, and believe nothing is running in the background; three hours later, 40% of the battery GONE!
Except that there are a ton of different phones and tablets that use the Android OS, so all that means is that the specific phone you own is shitty. There are many Android devices that have great battery life.
I have used three different Android devices, two were mine day in, day out. Crappy battery life across all three. It is the nature of the OS I think.
No. I know plenty of people who use Android devices, and they've all had good experiences as far as battery life goes. You've just had bad luck.
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So after seeing the parts of this iPhone show up in many different areas it seems as it's pretty much a given that the two tone, liquid metal 6th generation iPhone will look like this. I'm kind of excited because this look has really grown on me, especially the black, and my contract expires in October. I'm an iPhone loyalist and always will be, so the question I have now is, Black or White?
(https://www.tech2date.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/white-iphone.jpg)
(https://gdeluxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/New-iPhone-5-unibody.jpg)
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ARe you a girl? If no, black.
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wat
I like the white one :(
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I don't know. It looks so womanly.
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I'm leaning towards black, mostly due to the black around the edges. the reason I didn't get a black 4 was because I didn't like the contrast of the brighter aluminum around the edges vs. the black. I personally really dig the white phone, although it is somewhat womanly, guys can have the phone for sure! I know as many guys with the white one as I do girls. But for me I'm leaning towards black mostly due to the continuity it has being all black.
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I don't know a single guy with a white iphone.
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They're all married?
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:lol
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I don't know a single guy with a white iphone.
I have a white iPad.
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Me too, I bought it for my wife but I preferred the white one.
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I had all black iphones until the 4s. I love the white 4s! The white really looks slick.
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I have the white iPhone 4, maybe it's more of a teenager thing but a lot of guys I know have iPhones and its pretty even between black and white. I really love the look of the white iPhone 4, but the black sixth generation one looks really, really nice.
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I'm surprised they're changing the aspect ratio (if this is legit). At least with the upgrade to the Retina Display, it was only a matter of pixel density. Having black bars on the bottom and top of every legacy app doesn't seem like an Apple design.
I haven't seen any tech site mention this at all. Is this really not an issue for anyone else?
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check this out...
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/07/ios-6-automatically-scales-to-fit-taller-1136x640-iphone-display/
iOS 6 Automatically Scales to Fit Taller 1136x640 iPhone Display
9to5Mac reports that it has discovered through some testing with Apple's official iOS simulator that iOS 6 is capable of automatically scaling its home screen display to fit a taller 1136x640 display, compared to the current 960x640 display. Numerous rumors and part leaks have indicated that Apple will be including a taller display on the next-generation iPhone to be introduced next month.
Thanks to some tweaks to the iOS Simulator application that is included in the iOS development tools, we were able to run the simulator at the rumored next-generation iPhone display resolution of 640 x 1136. We did this running both the current public release of iOS 5.1 and the upcoming iOS 6.0 The iOS 5.1 simulator displayed the home screen with a stretched set of four rows of icons. On the other hand, iOS 6 displayed five complete rows – as our sources said Apple was testing for taller iPhone displays.
(https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/08/ios_scaling_taller_screen.jpg)
iOS simulator at 1136x640 with five rows of icons under iOS 6 and four rows under iOS 5.1
Notably, setting the iOS simulator to resolutions other than 1136x640 does not result in automatic scaling, with the software instead simply defaulting to an "iPad-like home screen layout" different from what is seen for the iPhone. The observation suggests that there is something special about that 1136x640 resolution that suggests Apple has at least been working on an iOS 6 device supporting that screen size.
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That's fine for the home screen, but how will it handle apps? Three scenarios I can think of:
1) Black bars on top and bottom
2) Stretched to fit (can affect usability for certain apps, and looks bad)
3) Re-code apps
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That's fine for the home screen, but how will it handle apps? Three scenarios I can think of:
1) Black bars on top and bottom
2) Stretched to fit (can affect usability for certain apps, and looks bad)
3) Re-code apps
It could be great for gaming in landscape mode. Your thumbs will be ubstructing your view less.
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That's if the game is coded for the extra horizontal (when in landscape) resolution. Otherwise it's stretched and looks ugly, or there are black bars. Depending on the game, revising the app could be a costly and time consuming process.
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So I 2.5x the amount of RAM in my 2010 White Unibody Macbook. Holy crap is this thing snappy, 5gb instead of 2gb makes a huge difference, and all the features are so much more usable. I'm absolutely loving Mountain Lion now, and I'm figuring out more secrets I can do with this OS. I also got Aperture 3 now that my computer can handle it. Such an awesome program. Loving this upgrade :D
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That's if the game is coded for the extra horizontal (when in landscape) resolution. Otherwise it's stretched and looks ugly, or there are black bars. Depending on the game, revising the app could be a costly and time consuming process.
Or the black bars are no black bars but in fact room for permanent ads.
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That's if the game is coded for the extra horizontal (when in landscape) resolution. Otherwise it's stretched and looks ugly, or there are black bars. Depending on the game, revising the app could be a costly and time consuming process.
Or the black bars are no black bars but in fact room for permanent ads.
Balls. I bet that's exactly what they do :(
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AFAIK, that's a decision made by the app dev's. Though I do wonder how Apple is going to handle the extra real estate. Maybe give dev's a choice to implement ads without much work, or add another resolution option.
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Any new news on the iPad Mini, such as pricing and release timetable? Looking to get one for University as I am on a budget and my course includes application development.
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Any new news on the iPad Mini, such as pricing and release timetable? Looking to get one for University as I am on a budget and my course includes application development.
Nothing official. Supposedly Apple is holding an unprecedented event on Sept 12. Speculation is the unveil of a new iPhone, iPod, iPad Mini, and possibly and Apple TV.
Side Bar**
Apple's stock hit an all time high today.
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Does anyone think they'll either announce a new iPod classic or an iPhone with a bigger capacity? I've been postponing getting a classic cause of the cost, plus I prefer the iPhone layout for music, but my collection is at the point I need something bigger. Thoughts?
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Apple did away with the classic soon. It looks outdated compared to the rest of the Apple product line.
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While I agree, I think they always need something with that capacity. Unless they've made the tech work for iPhones, I think they'll keep them as long as they're selling
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I don't think they've upped the top iphone or ipod touch's capacity in a few years. I would assume they could easily get 500MB in one these days if they wanted to.
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While I agree, I think they always need something with that capacity. Unless they've made the tech work for iPhones, I think they'll keep them as long as they're selling
This. Having those music players with that large capacity really benefits the people like us on the forum, who listen to a wide variety of music, which usually ends up being a lot of music that takes up a lot of storage space. I would go crazy without a classic, personally.
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Same. I know some friends who need to constantly change their entire libraries up but why do that when you can carry your entire music selection on you? Shuffle sometimes reignites old interests.
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But it you made an iPod touch the size of an iPhone, I bet they could squeeze at least 150GB in one due to the lack of all the phone hardware. There's no need to have an iPod touch razor thin. It's nice dont get me wrong, but I really don't think heavy users would mind having a thicker one if it meant having all that storage space.
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You'd be surprised. I've had a slew of devices over the years that the average user considers bricks but are still pocket sized (Creative Zen and Samsung Galaxy Nexus).
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So my home button got stuck on my iPhone, it's a pain in the ass but thankfully to apple's assistive touch feature on the phone I can use an on screen home button! Luckily today I have a friend who fixes iPhone's so my phone won't be home buttonless for long.
EDIT: All fixed :) home buttons good and working better than ever :)
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what was the fix?
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Well he basically had to take the phone apart from the back to the front, it had some sensor underneath the home button that got knocked loose so he had to go back and seal it so that wont happen again
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Bought an Apple TV, Holy crap this is sooo cool!
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Did anyone see on the news the other day that Apple stock closed at an all time high (can't remember the exact dollar value per share) becoming the biggest company of all time surpassing the record held by Microsoft for 10 years. 623 billion dollar company. Wow! Is this old news or off topic or what? Just saying....too bad Steve Jobs isn't around to see it.
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Definitely an incredible feat, but that doesn't account for inflation.
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https://www.theverge.com/2012/8/24/3266391/apple-samsung-patent-damages-verdict
Apple defeated Samsung at this long patent fight. $1 Billion in reparations. Ca-ching!
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Unfortunate.
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It doesn't surprise me, obviously Samsung "infringed" on the patents. What does surprise me is that the judge ruled that parents as valid... https://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57500273-37/apple-v-samsung-the-infringing-device-scorecard/
Some of that stuff should not be able to be patented.
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Most of those are Android OS related, not how Samsung built the phones. And yeah most are way too broad.
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Wow. That's insane.
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It doesn't surprise me, obviously Samsung "infringed" on the patents. What does surprise me is that the judge ruled that parents as valid... https://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57500273-37/apple-v-samsung-the-infringing-device-scorecard/
Some of that stuff should not be able to be patented.
disclosure/ I have not read in depth to the patents. And we all know Apple was first on the scene with a capacitive touch screen, and my next phone will be an iPhone (finally on Sprint).
But completely trying to shut down other phones (Android) can stifle innovation. That was Jobs intentions as he stated from the biography.
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It can easily be argued that Andriod in not innovation if it's simply ripping off iOS. This ruling could actually cause some really good innovation since they'll have to be very unique in order to get around the patents.
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It can easily be argued that Andriod in not innovation if it's simply ripping off iOS. This ruling could actually cause some really good innovation since they'll have to be very unique in order to get around the patents.
Those are my thoughts exactly. Nothing about my droid seems intuitive. Everything about it just seems like an attempt to be as similar to the iPhone as possible. I want to see some cool new shit. Like facial recognition software that recognizes whether it's me or not holding the phone. If its not, restrict access to certain things. Give me facial gestures. Right wink instead of double tap to zoom, left wink to go back, etc...
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Its not over yet.
https://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/google_finally_reacts_apples_105_billion_patent_victory_over_samsung
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From that article, this one does a great job breaking down how terrible a job the jury did:
https://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390
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From that article, this one does a great job breaking down how terrible a job the jury did:
https://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390
ill have to take a look at that when i have time.
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video of what the new screen will be like.
https://youtu.be/IvYya4ZUZH0 (https://youtu.be/IvYya4ZUZH0)
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I don't think they've upped the top iphone or ipod touch's capacity in a few years. I would assume they could easily get 500MB in one these days if they wanted to.
The iPhone 4S finally brought in 64gb. Otherwise it was 32gb for the iphone for awhile...
Agree though, I wish they would have more space via traditional hard disk, but I know they will not. Apple is very much for flash/SS storage (see MB Air and MBPro).
As it is anyway, they overprice the 64 and 32 by double the cost. I have two 32gb micro sd cards, at about 110$ for both. Not surprised, but my next phone will be the next gen iPhone. 200$ more for the 64gb will be hard to swallow.
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The event is now officially scheduled for the
12th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMYtvqS43UA&feature=g-u-u
(https://c414155.r55.cf1.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Apple-event1-535x480.jpg)
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YAY!
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Since I am new to the Iphone game (still using my broken droid until the Iphone5 comes out). Assuming they announce it on the 15th, when do you guys think that means it will actually be released?
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Since I am new to the Iphone game (still using my broken droid until the Iphone5 comes out). Assuming they announce it on the 15th, when do you guys think that means it will actually be released?
All signs point to Sept 21.
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Since I am new to the Iphone game (still using my broken droid until the Iphone5 comes out). Assuming they announce it on the 15th, when do you guys think that means it will actually be released?
All signs point to Sept 21.
That is very cool, thank you. I look forward to using a phone for the first time in a year that doesn't have a totally broken screen.
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Awesome! I haven't had my phone synced since I got my new computer.
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I don't really like the idea of the next iPhone being called iPhone 5. It's the sixth iPhone, so that name doesn't really make sense. Anyway, it's going to be pretty interesting to see what it's going to be like. I'm most likely not going update as I currently have the iPhone 4S, but I'm not going to let it spoil my excitement. Being a fanboy is a lot of fun. :D
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i don't have the money right now... or i would. Maybe for my birthday in march.
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I don't really like the idea of the next iPhone being called iPhone 5. It's the sixth iPhone, so that name doesn't really make sense. Anyway, it's going to be pretty interesting to see what it's going to be like. I'm most likely not going update as I currently have the iPhone 4S, but I'm not going to let it spoil my excitement. Being a fanboy is a lot of fun. :D
We still don't know the name yet. They might just change it to iPhone like they did with iPad.
I hope they drop the word "phone" all together. Call it the "iSmart", "iHand", "iDevice", or something along those lines. The phone feature is the least used function on my DroidX.
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The event is now officially scheduled for the
12th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMYtvqS43UA&feature=g-u-u
(https://c414155.r55.cf1.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Apple-event1-535x480.jpg)
Notice the 5 reflected from the 12... #nuggetz
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The event is now officially scheduled for the
12th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMYtvqS43UA&feature=g-u-u
(https://c414155.r55.cf1.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Apple-event1-535x480.jpg)
Notice the 5 reflected from the 12... #nuggetz
thats why I'm pretty sure it's the iPhone 5 and not the new iPhone
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Looks like a wheelchair to me.
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LOL... sorry guys!:
https://www.techspot.com/news/50053-chinese-company-patents-iphone-5-design-may-sue-apple.html
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I doubt that'll hold up
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LOL... sorry guys!:
https://www.techspot.com/news/50053-chinese-company-patents-iphone-5-design-may-sue-apple.html
I saw this earlier this morning. I doubt anything is going to come from it.
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LOL... sorry guys!:
https://www.techspot.com/news/50053-chinese-company-patents-iphone-5-design-may-sue-apple.html
I saw this earlier this morning. I doubt anything is going to come from it.
Yeah, that won't hold up even if they do try anything. First of all, Apple have managed to bully much bigger companies into submission.
And more importantly, Apple should be able to easily prove that this company infringed on previous Apple designs, and that this company stole the design.
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LOL... sorry guys!:
https://www.techspot.com/news/50053-chinese-company-patents-iphone-5-design-may-sue-apple.html
I saw this earlier this morning. I doubt anything is going to come from it.
Yeah, that won't hold up even if they do try anything. First of all, Apple have managed to bully much bigger companies into submission.
And more importantly, Apple should be able to easily prove that this company infringed on previous Apple designs, and that this company stole the design.
But isn't that the point of getting the patent? If this design was different enough to deserve a newly issued patent, and they patented it before Apple, isn't it technically their design?
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LOL... sorry guys!:
https://www.techspot.com/news/50053-chinese-company-patents-iphone-5-design-may-sue-apple.html
I saw this earlier this morning. I doubt anything is going to come from it.
Yeah, that won't hold up even if they do try anything. First of all, Apple have managed to bully much bigger companies into submission.
And more importantly, Apple should be able to easily prove that this company infringed on previous Apple designs, and that this company stole the design.
But isn't that the point of getting the patent? If this design was different enough to deserve a newly issued patent, and they patented it before Apple, isn't it technically their design?
I don't believe so. I don't know how different the law works in China, but just because you managed to get a patent first, doesn't mean you've automatically got the law on your side, especially when you're dealing with a company as big as Apple that can easily prove it's a derivation of their existing patented designs, and stolen from designs they were working on.
Getting a patent and enforcing a patent are different things, so I doubt this will hold up, and I bet Apple's lawyers will steamroll them if at all possible.
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They probably just throw them a few million just so they don't have to be bothered.
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A patent is supposed to go to the company that invented a technology, not the one who patented it first. Apple should have plenty of documentation showing that it had these designs well before the other company patented it, thus making them the true inventors.
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So I got iOS 6 without a UDiD registration or a hacktivation, for any of you out there wanting to give it a go its quite simple! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiNft6qSd5A here's a video tutorial
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I can wait a week. :)
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Anyone know if there are any rumored updates to Apple TV coming next week? I want to get one, but would wait if a new version is coming out.
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Anyone know if there are any rumored updates to Apple TV coming next week? I want to get one, but would wait if a new version is coming out.
They updated it pretty recently with 1080p and a dual processor. But the rumor is nothing new is coming out for a while because negotiations with the broadcast companies have stalled.
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1 day 17 hours and 40 minutes from this post.
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/09/yerba-buena-stretched-icon/
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That is very clever.
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The only way I am buying this phone is if the battery life is significantly better. I'm talking Droid Razr Maxx status.
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Though I'm a little late to the party, I just started watching an info feed from the presentation. No big surprises so far unless I missed something.
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Nope, nothing outside the rumor mill. Good to see the hardware has been upgraded significantly (camera, A6 Processor, speaker, etc).
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My favorite part about the Iphone 5 is that it will make the price drop on the 4 and I can finally get one. :smiley:
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Nope, nothing outside the rumor mill. Good to see the hardware has been upgraded significantly (camera, A6 Processor, speaker, etc).
It pisses me off that there is never any surprises anymore. I hope next time around, Apple purposely makes a completely bogus but working device and intentionally leaks it.
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Well when was the last time an upgrade to a produce was a huge surprise? Usually the huge deals are when they announce a new product.
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Yawn....my 6 month old iPhone 4S will be fine until it's completely dead. By then the iPhone 12 will probably be here.
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The only iPhone I've owned was the first generation. After experiencing 4G LTE on my HTC Thunderbolt, I will probably pick this up to get the same speeds without the awful battery life. I won't be getting it until December though; not eligible for upgrade until then.
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That's basically the only feature I'm interested in, the LTE. Even though there's nothing revolutionary, that's what I was waiting for. So now I'll upgrade and go back to my old carrier.
EDIT: Foo Fightersss....Do they usually have musical guests at this kind of thing? Seems like they're trying to make up for the lack of excitement in the presentation.
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I do not like the new iphone. I mean, ok it's slightly bigger, lighter and faster but it's not a huge step for 5. Actually, Samsung Galaxy phones and probably new Nokia have better technology.
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy, because I'm not. But from my experience, those companies don't utilize that technology. The line seems to be drawn between Apple, who perfects and squeezes every drop out of a technology, and other companies, who just go for the most horsepower. Lots of power doesn't mean shit if you can't use it well. It's like a Dodge neon SRT4.
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I love posts like this. I get a kick out of watching people get so riled up over a phone. Anyone ever notice that the ones who make the biggest deal out of it/hate on the device and its users the most tend to be very uneducated? Just an observation. Today, the internet is filled with hatred, disgust, hostility, and anger... all over a fucking phone! I don't get why so many people take this shit to heart. It baffles my mind. People go out of there way to belitte and insult another person because of which phone they prefer.... Are other countries like this with phones, or is it just America?
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Glad I got my Galaxy SIII 2 weeks ago instead of waiting for this. The new iPhone looks cool, but I've grown partial to the latest versions of Android anyway.
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My company uses iPhones = free iPhone for me. I have no choice, so I don't complain about it. With that said, I'm still only 6 months into my 4S so I will probably not even own an iPhone 5 since Apple seems to come out with a new phone almost every year now :lol
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https://www.theonion.com/articles/apple-announces-new-iphone-with-nword-on-back-know,29531/
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https://www.theonion.com/articles/apple-announces-new-iphone-with-nword-on-back-know,29531/
:lol
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:lol
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I want the the new iPod touch but mine is not even a year old. I even waited to see if there was going to be upgrades but all that released last year was the iPhone 4S and iPod touch now comes in white.
Fuck you Apple for making significant upgrades after I get mine. Should be a put in your old one towards the new model!
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Won't all new software upgrades be available to older models?
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I care about the hardware upgrades, mainly the camera going from 0.7 to 5.0, having an LED flash and the processor.
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Anyone ever notice that the ones who make the biggest deal out of it/hate on the device and its users the most tend to be very uneducated? Just an observation.
No, and I hope this observation is directed at all hyped phone hatred, and not just Apple. The point about Apple joining the 4inch screen and LTE specs finally is valid. Perhaps it is better to say a lot of people who spew Apple hate about the specs sound uneducated.
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Won't all new software upgrades be available to older models?
Before iPhone 4, no.
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Won't all new software upgrades be available to older models?
Before iPhone 4, no.
Well I have an Ipod touch that I bought in like......2009? 2010? Something like that. Will that have whatever software updates made available? Mine doesn't have a camera anyway so that doesn't bother me.
Also, did they announce a date I can walk into a store and buy the Iphone5? I've had a broken phone for a year or so waiting for this thing to come out.
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Anyone ever notice that the ones who make the biggest deal out of it/hate on the device and its users the most tend to be very uneducated? Just an observation.
No, and I hope this observation is directed at all hyped phone hatred, and not just Apple. The point about Apple joining the 4inch screen and LTE specs finally is valid. Perhaps it is better to say a lot of people who spew Apple hate about the specs sound uneducated.
I meant the cellphone war in general, not just those who bash Apple. There are plenty of "Fandroid" haters out there as well.
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Also, did they announce a date I can walk into a store and buy the Iphone5? I've had a broken phone for a year or so waiting for this thing to come out.
Pre Order starts on Friday and They go on sale on the 21st.
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Won't all new software upgrades be available to older models?
Before iPhone 4, no.
Well I have an Ipod touch that I bought in like......2009? 2010? Something like that. Will that have whatever software updates made available? Mine doesn't have a camera anyway so that doesn't bother me.
Also, did they announce a date I can walk into a store and buy the Iphone5? I've had a broken phone for a year or so waiting for this thing to come out.
Sorry, 3GS onwards would be available for iOS6. Yeah, that model of your iPod is included, too. Pre-order on Friday and it sells on the 19th.
(https://i.imgur.com/jPQeW.png)
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Anyone ever notice that the ones who make the biggest deal out of it/hate on the device and its users the most tend to be very uneducated? Just an observation.
No, and I hope this observation is directed at all hyped phone hatred, and not just Apple. The point about Apple joining the 4inch screen and LTE specs finally is valid. Perhaps it is better to say a lot of people who spew Apple hate about the specs sound uneducated.
In my experience, people seem to hate on Apple more than any other company. Also, in my experience, these people do seem pretty uneducated and/or are just looking for something to hate.
I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy, because I'm not. But from my experience, those companies don't utilize that technology. The line seems to be drawn between Apple, who perfects and squeezes every drop out of a technology, and other companies, who just go for the most horsepower. Lots of power doesn't mean shit if you can't use it well.
This statement illustrates my opinion on Apple vs. everyone else incredibly well.
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My issue with Apple has nothing to do with their actual technology, and everything to do with the fact that it's completely locked down with their proprietary bullshit and horrifically overpriced.
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I've decided to give the iPhone5 a chance. Can I pre-order at a verizon store tomorrow, or can you only pre-order through the website?
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Apple stock of the new iphone sold out in under an hour :lol
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My issue with Apple has nothing to do with their actual technology, and everything to do with the fact that it's completely locked down with their proprietary bullshit and horrifically overpriced.
Pretty much.
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My issue with Apple has nothing to do with their actual technology, and everything to do with the fact that it's completely locked down with their proprietary bullshit and horrifically overpriced.
Pretty much.
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My issue with Apple has nothing to do with their actual technology, and everything to do with the fact that it's completely locked down with their proprietary bullshit and horrifically overpriced.
Pretty much.
I agree with that. However, you get the trade off of everything working flawlessly across the board because every device is identical. There hasn't been a single app that I've downloaded on my droid that hasn't been bug free. At least half of them I delete immediately because they run like absolute shit.
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the hell have you been downloading?
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the hell have you been downloading?
Nothing too crazy.
Games.
Compass apps
Google Chrome
Photo editing apps
Sky Maps
etc...
There are so many apps that I have on both my phone and my iPod/iPad.... There isn't a single one that my idevice isn't far superior with.
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I'm getting the iPhone 5, but I feel like it's what the 4S should've been.
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Yeah me too.
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So I can keep my existing Thunderbolt and unlimited data plan on Verizon.
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I can wait three months to buy the iPhone at a subsidized price and lose my unlimited data plan (paying more money for less data)
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I can buy the iPhone at full price and keep my unlimited data plan.
I use at least 2GB of data a month, more if I tether to my iPad. My max is 15GB in one month, and I really don't want to lose that option.
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AT&T and Verizon suck so bad. I have AT&T. I am still unlimited since the first iPhone. But I know that will end soon.
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So I can keep my existing Thunderbolt and unlimited data plan on Verizon.
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I can wait three months to buy the iPhone at a subsidized price and lose my unlimited data plan (paying more money for less data)
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I can buy the iPhone at full price and keep my unlimited data plan.
I use at least 2GB of data a month, more if I tether to my iPad. My max is 15GB in one month, and I really don't want to lose that option.
First world problems
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AT&T and Verizon suck so bad. I have AT&T. I am still unlimited since the first iPhone. But I know that will end soon.
Verizon is by far the best carrier on the market. It's not even close.
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So I can keep my existing Thunderbolt and unlimited data plan on Verizon.
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I can wait three months to buy the iPhone at a subsidized price and lose my unlimited data plan (paying more money for less data)
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I can buy the iPhone at full price and keep my unlimited data plan.
I use at least 2GB of data a month, more if I tether to my iPad. My max is 15GB in one month, and I really don't want to lose that option.
First world problems
I'm fully aware of that! :lol
AT&T and Verizon suck so bad. I have AT&T. I am still unlimited since the first iPhone. But I know that will end soon.
Verizon is by far the best carrier on the market. It's not even close.
Yup, switched to them and never looked back. Their LTE network is faster and more robust than AT&T.
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I'm going to switch back to sprint. How's their LTE compared to AT&T?
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In the works. My big project at work is their LTE upgrade. Their spectrum sucks though so it's spotty at best.
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AT&T and Verizon suck so bad. I have AT&T. I am still unlimited since the first iPhone. But I know that will end soon.
Verizon is by far the best carrier on the market. It's not even close.
They are both horrifically over priced and now only offer limited data usage for a lot of money a month. They both are shit because of that to me. I've never had an issue as far as coverage with ATT so no complaints there but their pricing for stuff is absurd.
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Overpriced for what? With cell phone technology you pay for what you get. Verizon, and AT&T to a lesser extent, are the best you're going to get as far as data coverage and with the influx of users the price is more a cost to keep up with the demand than anything. Data is going to grow because that is the way technology is headed so stop whining about companies. They're the ones actually making sure you're able to access the data.
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Im not arguing that every cent cellphone companies spend is well spent, but I dont think people realize how expensive those infrastructures are to build an maintain. Not to mention how often they have to develop new ones. The turnover on the technology doesn't give then great profit margins years down the road like many other companies
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I don't understand why people are making it to be a huge deal that the new iPhone isn't revolutionary. People act like it's an atrocity that the new iPhone isn't revolutionary. Not every release has to completely reinvent the product. Sure, Apple is playing it up to be like a revolutionary product, but doesn't everyone do that? It's called marketing.
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I think the worst thing Apple did is change to the Lightning connector. Everything now has that iPod/iPhone dock and Apple will probably charge you $35-45 for an adapter from this new connector to the old.
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True. That will be annoying, but I'll let it slide because I've always hated the old connector.
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I think the worst thing Apple did is change to the Lightning connector. Everything now has that iPod/iPhone dock and Apple will probably charge you $35-45 for an adapter from this new connector to the old.
They had to change them some time. I remember saying the same thing when everything switched to micro-usb. I now have about a dozen USB2.0 cables that are sitting around and good for nothing (with the exception of charging my PS3 controllers). There is going to come a day when TVs no longer come with AV jacks. Adapters are used all the time because technology changes. My dad has one of those auxiliary-to-cassette adapters so he can use his iPod in his truck.
Knock off adapters for under $5 bucks are going to be appearing within a week of the iPhone5 release. People shouldn't be too worried.
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Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but IOS 6 is available now. I've already updated my iPod, iPad and iPhone :hat
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Who the hell uses a Samsung laptop?
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Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but IOS 6 is available now. I've already updated my iPod, iPad and iPhone :hat
My iPad took over a half hour on my school's network.
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It's a 760mb download, so yeah, it takes a bit of time. Even on the ridiculously fast network here in my office it took 20 minutes...plus, the word is out now, so the Apple update servers are getting slammed
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Who the hell uses a Samsung laptop?
....me....
But it's just a simple laptop for school, web browsing, and word processing. Anything that actually takes resources is done on my desktop.
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Does anyone know how Verizon's whole shared data plan works. There's a $50 dollar one for unlimited talk/text and 1gb data. (which is better then the tiered $80 bucks a month)
Is this shared data plan just for family's or can I just go and do this just for myself?
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I don't understand why people are making it to be a huge deal that the new iPhone isn't revolutionary. People act like it's an atrocity that the new iPhone isn't revolutionary. Not every release has to completely reinvent the product. Sure, Apple is playing it up to be like a revolutionary product, but doesn't everyone do that? It's called marketing.
"We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology." - Carl Sagan
So few people actually understand what is going on behind the scenes in that thing they hold in their hand. Innovation doesn't always have to come in the form of a new look or blatantly new features. The amount of software modifications that Apple did for ios6 and the iPhone5 is truly amazing. The device may look similar, but it's a whole new beast (that goes for many new phones out there, not just Apple). #DroidUser
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I don't mean to downplay the hardware upgrades. But you're right. It's amazing how much power they can cram into that small device. I hope heat isn't an issue.
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How do I find the IOS 6 download on my Ipad and Ipod touch?
I went to the Software Update part of General and it says they're both up to date with 5.1 something.
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How do I find the IOS 6 download on my Ipad and Ipod touch?
I went to the Software Update part of General and it says they're both up to date with 5.1 something.
I'm pretty sure Apple is periodically opening access to different regions/deviecs. My buddy finsihed updating his iPhone and my iPad took over hour after that to even detect the update....
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One of the benefits of the iPhone 5 is the improved battery life. Coming from an HTC Thunderbolt 4G that has abysmal battery life (both when using it and on standby), it'll be a huge difference.
Looking at the spec sheet, 4G browsing battery life is better on the 5 than 3G browsing is on the 4S:
iPhone 5 iPhone 4S
3G --- 6hrs
4G 8hrs ---
So while I understand that this phone isn't a huge step up for existing 4 and 4S owners, unless you own a new Galaxy S3 or equivalent Android phone, it's a big step up for current low to mid-range phone owners.
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I don't mean to downplay the hardware upgrades. But you're right. It's amazing how much power they can cram into that small device. I hope heat isn't an issue.
Which is on the reasons I am waiting for at least a few months to get one, as people will review it and bugs will be worked out. I bought the HTC EVO 3d on release day and this was one of the biggest problems with it. The battery would often de-charge slowly while plugged in and using an application.
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I feel like a heat issue is something Apple would never allow. With the amount of press their products get, and the sheer number of iPhones that get into users' hands on day one, something as simple as a heating issue would be way up there "test, test, test, and test again for this problem" list.
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I think the reception problem is way more of an embarrassing miss than an overheating issue.
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Macbooks have had numerous heating issues over the years.
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Macbooks have had numerous heating issues over the years.
I was speaking strictly iPhone. Their macbooks can have defects and go undetected by most of the public. If the iPhone5 ever had a serious flaw, the media would never shut up about it.
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So it's almost 7pm my time and the updates still aren't available.
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Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but IOS 6 is available now. I've already updated my iPod, iPad and iPhone :hat
The installation was one of the fastest I've ever had. My download from itunes at home was 847 MB and finished in less than 5 mins. Installation was another 15 mins and it was all done then.
The OS does seem a bit snappier and the little things done here and there is pretty cool like the options now available when answering calls to reply with a text, etc..
My major gripe is the maps app. They are missing a buttload of information and I'm reading forums where people have posted hundreds if not thousands of instances of getting erroneous information. Things like showing year old closed shops, no re-routing when missing your street, map server access issues(though that could be expected today), search finding 0 fast food chains, etc..
I had trouble getting the dropped pin to work correctly, it wouldn't know the address of the street I would drop and didn't give any option to get to the address when it was the same street I live on. Sure there are going to be issues and it will only get better with time, but right now I wouldn't use it when going out of town.
Here's an article discussing the maps grievances.
https://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/09/19/the-verdict-on-apples-new-map-app-compared-with-google-maps-it-sucks/
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Downloading on my Ipad now. Still not available on my Ipod Touch.
Odd.
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There's definitely not enough space on my phone to upgrade. I'm just going to wait until I get the new one.
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Just curious, are there any perks to updating for my Ipod touch? I only use it to listen to music. And if I remember correctly, the last time I upgraded the software, it deleted all my music.
So is it even worth downloading for the Ipod touch?
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The fuck. No Siri for iPad second gen?
And what the fuck were they thinking with this App Store redesign. Is it not loading info for anyone else?
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Does anyone here have an Apple device with Siri? How often do you use it? I don't see myself using it very often, but maybe that's just because I don't have it yet.
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Does anyone really use Siri regularly though?
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No. I disabled Siri.
Bf is getting an iphone 5. I'm jealous, I have the 4s. I've been teasing him for almost a year now about how much better my phone is than his 3g.
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Does anyone really use Siri regularly though?
I'll ask her when I get my Iphone 5.
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Does anyone really use Siri regularly though?
I hardly ever do. Maybe once or twice a month if I had to say so.
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I think the worst thing Apple did is change to the Lightning connector. Everything now has that iPod/iPhone dock and Apple will probably charge you $35-45 for an adapter from this new connector to the old.
Me and my GF were just discussing that. She's pissed because she already has the old connector for the car and will probably have to buy an adapter when she upgrades next month. This will be my first iPhone so it really doesn't affect me. I understand the frustration though.
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Who the hell uses a Samsung laptop?
My mom.
It's a piece of crap.
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I hear iOS6 maps are fun (https://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/).
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Yea I'm pretty let down with IOS 6 for my Ipad.
The maps are terrible and as of now I can't find any other meaningful changes.
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Yea I'm pretty let down with IOS 6 for my Ipad.
The maps are terrible and as of now I can't find any other meaningful changes.
I think it was just a matter of separating as much as possible from Google.
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Yea I'm pretty let down with IOS 6 for my Ipad.
The maps are terrible and as of now I can't find any other meaningful changes.
I think it was just a matter of separating as much as possible from Google.
That's what I was thinking as well.
The download and installation also took several hours on my iPhone. Did you anyone else have this issue?
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So far the update to the phone app and Siri have been worth upgrading to iOS6 alone. Can't wait until all these companies start using passbook. Will be an awesome feature then.
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So far the update to the phone app and Siri have been worth upgrading to iOS6 alone. Can't wait until all these companies start using passbook. Will be an awesome feature then.
Would be great if those were the only things they changed :-\
The removal of Google Maps is an understandable move by Apple, but they should have waited until they replaced all the features that people have become accustomed to. When I was in Boston for 2 weeks, being able to pull up public transportation directions was invaluable.
I know they are trying to separate themselves from Google given the rise of Android, but what is the Apple alternative to YouTube?
That said, the 3D view on maps is very cool.
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I know they are trying to separate themselves from Google given the rise of Android, but what is the Apple alternative to YouTube?
That said, the 3D view on maps is very cool.
If you mean the Alternative to the Youtube App on the phone, There is a Youtube for download in the App Store and it's far superior to the old native app.
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Facebook status:
"There are about 20 people at the apple store right now and we're all just big chillin. Hunkering down for the next 8.5 hours."
lol
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As silly as it may be, that honestly sounds fun. I love being overly excited about things.
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I know they are trying to separate themselves from Google given the rise of Android, but what is the Apple alternative to YouTube?
That said, the 3D view on maps is very cool.
If you mean the Alternative to the Youtube App on the phone, There is a Youtube for download in the App Store and it's far superior to the old native app.
I'm on the iPad. :-\
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I like the IOS 6 update for the iPod, the music player has a pretty sleek look. Don't really care either way on the iPhone or iPad
According to apple there are 200 new features ??? Where?
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It's as buggy as fuck.
Never EVER upgrade your os week 1.
currently about a dozen people I know can't access any kind of wi-fi with their os device, no matter the type.
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I like the IOS 6 update for the iPod, the music player has a pretty sleek look. Don't really care either way on the iPhone or iPad
According to apple there are 200 new features ??? Where?
Some of those features are little things like the Settings icon is now changed. Boom new feature.
Blob animation when refreshing mail. boom another feature.
I think this release more than others has mostly been under the hood kind of stuff. my phone UI definitely feels a lot more snappier now.
Of course maps has changed and is somewhat of a big deal for me so I might just restore it back to the older version. I'm on the 4 so things like siri and other newer features arent even applicable.
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Got the new iPhone today. I'm liking it so far. Though it might just be the new phone smell since there aren't a lot of huge difference. I'm loving the LTE support though.
I'm just waiting for Google to bring their YouTube app back up to speed and create a new map app.
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I'm feeling kinda lucky! I haven't had one issue with iOS6 Maps, it works way better than the old maps for me. I like it way more.
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My iOS6 maps have been working great as well. I don't know if having a 4s has anything to do with that or not. I still don't really know what people have been complaining about concerning the maps. I just know some people have some problems.
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One of the apps I use the most, a camera monitoring app, still isn't updated for IOS 6 :\
The new maps app.....eh.....used the turn by turn directions last night and it got us promptly lost in Providence, RI :|
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I'm completely happy with Navigon on my iPhone. I guess I should try navigating with the new Apple Maps some day, just for fun. Hopefully I won't get lost.
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Later today, I'll if it can get me from my hometown in Illinois back to school in Iowa.
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I'm completely happy with Navigon on my iPhone. I guess I should try navigating with the new Apple Maps some day, just for fun. Hopefully I won't get lost.
So I use Navigon as well. I've tested the new maps app with siri 5 times now to see how it works. I love it to be honest. You just say.. "take me to blah blah blah" and it starts the navigation and everything. I wish you could do that with Navigon... So far No issues with the navigation. It has worked extremely well each time. Hopefully they can work out whatever issues they are having quickly.
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So I tried using the iPhone 5 for my trip, and the map app created a route quickly and easily. It had no trouble finding my school in Iowa, but a few seconds after the guidance started, the app would crash. I'm not sure if that's due to long route or another bug in the app, but they need to work on that.
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Apparently there is yet another iPhone 5 bug being reported that is resulting in HUGE overages for some users:
https://money.cnn.com/2012/10/01/technology/iphone-5-data-overage/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 (https://money.cnn.com/2012/10/01/technology/iphone-5-data-overage/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)
This is precisely why I never dive on brand new stuff. Like the iPhone 4, which was, basically, shit. The 4s was a huge improvement, due in large part to the wave of bug reports that accompanied the release of the 4.
So, when do you think the 5s will hit? :P
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Actually some people are saying that the next iPhone is going to come out in the spring. Probably not going to happen, but it'd be interesting
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Actually some people are saying that the next iPhone is going to come out in the spring. Probably not going to happen, but it'd be interesting
Not a chance in hell.
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Well, I didn't say it was going to happen. There was just an article about the different patents that Apple has.
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The iPhone 4 came out June 7, 2010 and the 4s dropped in October 2011, so yeah, it's unlikely there will be anything new in terms of phones coming out from Apple before the end of 2013
I think they'll have a few bug fix releases for IOS 6, though.
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Actually some people are saying that the next iPhone is going to come out in the spring. Probably not going to happen, but it'd be interesting
God I hope so!! That would be the funniest thing ever!
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There are rumors about an iPad mini coming out soon.
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Supposedly, on October 10th, invitations are going out for Apple's October 17th iPad Mini event. That's the word on numerous Mac boards.
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Supposedly, on October 10th, invitations are going out for Apple's October 17th iPad Mini event. That's the word on numerous Mac boards.
This wouldn't surprise me. I read a few weeks ago that it has been being manufactured in Brazil for several months now. I guess Foxconn isn't handling this project. I was kind of expecting Apple to unveil the iPhone5 and it iPad mini at different events. This way both products get their spotlight. They can now target the new Kindles and other 7 inch tablets that have come out recently during the unveiling. A late October release is much better for the holiday season than an early/mid September release.
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Man, people internet-wide are going ape shit over this chip in the new lightening charger. I know we have known about its existence pretty much since launch, but I think most people (myself included) assumed it would have been cracked by now. Apparently it's a lot more challenging that many foresaw. I was reading that even if a knock off company manages to get them to work, it isn't cheap. I guess the knock off adapters would still cost in the $20+ dollar range, but who knows...
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What's the point of it? Faster charging?
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It's reversible! Drunk-proof!
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What's the point of it? Faster charging?
It prevents third parties from making something that can steal potential revenue from Apple.
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https://money.cnn.com/2012/10/05/technology/mobile/foxconn-iphone-5-strike/index.html?iid=SF_T_Lead
Thousands of factory workers at Foxconn went on strike Friday to protest their working conditions on the iPhone 5's production lines, according to a report from an independent workers' rights organization.
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https://www.theverge.com/2012/10/10/3479550/apple-expands-patent-coverage-on-slide-to-unlock-feature
I don't even.
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I blame the patent office more than anything. Stuff this broad should not allowed to be patented.
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What's next? Is the US Postal Service going to apply for a patent on licking?
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What's next? Is the US Postal Service going to apply for a patent on licking?
No, the vagina already holds that one.
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(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_77_1319546310.jpg)
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I'm so glad I wasn't drinking something just now. :rollin
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iPad Mini invites are out.
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https://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2012/
It can be streamed live.
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Surprise with a ipad 4th generation announcement along with the ipad mini.
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I'm not sure, but did you you mean that you're surprised that the 4th generation of the iPad is the mini?
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No there's an ipad 4 now along with the ipad mini. There wasnt that much news on an ipad 4 coming out so soon after the 3rd one.
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I'm thinking about selling my iPad2 and getting a mini.
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Why?
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Why?
Not only that, but it has the same processor as the iPad 2, so it's not much of a performance upgrade either.
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I bought my iPad at a time when I didn't have a laptop. I wanted something with a decent screen size when I was at home. I have since purchased a new laptop and now only use the iPad when I'm on the go, hanging out on a couch in the library, or when lying in bed as I wind down for the night. I don't really need the larger screen as much as I used to, and there have been plenty of instances when I wish I had a smaller iPad. I'm not looking for a performance upgrade. The current iPad does everything I need it to.
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(https://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h330/belgarathmth/QuickPhotos%201A/cartooniDeviceCrazy.jpg)
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So is the ipod going to be renamed the ipad nano?
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I think it's kind of odd that Steve Jobs is gone, and now Apple unviels a lackluster Iphone (in terms of upgrades), and then has a new Ipad Mini, and then Microsoft releases the Surface tablet and Windows 8. Quite a war of technology. I think Microsoft is going to make a big impact, along with Samsung, to move Apple down a bit in popularity.
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Samsung's commercials bash he new iPhone for being nothing exciting, but then they say nothing about their phone? Are they doing anything new?
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Samsung's commercials bash he new iPhone for being nothing exciting, but then they say nothing about their phone? Are they doing anything new?
Not really.
The problem with technology is the rate at which it is evolving. You have many companies releasing new phones so often, it's hard to get anything that can really be defined as 'new'. Everything that comes out now is just a more advanced version of a previous technology. Innovations for mobile phones have hit a plateau. Camera's, multi-core processors, the touch screen, multi-touch gestures, facial recognition, and the seamless integration into everything were innovative. What new is there to do with a phone that can be deemed innovative and not just an upgrade? I'm sure there is something, but I can't think of anything really ground breaking off hand.
Maybe things like;
- Controlling the phone with your brain (way off)
- Laser keyboards (possible https://www.utechnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/How-do-laser-projection-keyboards-work.jpg )
- Precise eye-tracking and facial gestures
- 3D camera systems
- Twin touch screens to make a mini tablet (already tried by some manufacturers)
- No physical phone, an earpiece could project the screen onto your hand or any surface (way off)
My point is, there is only so much innovation you can put in your hand. The power and capabilities will continue to improve at an awesome pace, but things that can be considered 'new'... I don't think there is much left. The only area that I can think that phones can still vastly improve is battery life. That lies mostly in the screen technology. If my iPad can run for 8+ hours using wifi, my phone should be able to do the same. I still wouldn't call that an innovation though. It's just another upgrade. A phone that could charge with built in solar panels would be fucking sweet. Maybe even something like charge the battery via shaking motions while walking, something along the lines of an automatic watch winding itself. Granted one is increasing mechanical potential energy and one is increasing electrical potential energy, but it might be possible.
This would make a really good thread topic. I'd love to hear other people's opinion on what else they think can be packed into a smart phone. I'm still waiting for a company to release something without the "phone" title. The phone feature is probably my least used feature on my phone. I think I used a whopping 450 minutes last year, most of which were long conversations with school officials and insurance people.
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I'm still waiting for a company to release something without the "phone" title.
Like the Ipod Touch?
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I bought the iPad 2 yesterday used from a guy on craigslist on the cheap. Great shape, really. I was prepared to buy the new mini, but holy crap - the differences are so minimal it's not even worth it.
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I'm still waiting for a company to release something without the "phone" title.
Like the Ipod Touch?
No. The iPod touch doesn't make phone calls.
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But if it makes phone calls... doesn't that then give ample reason to have phone in the title?
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But if it makes phone calls... doesn't that then give ample reason to have phone in the title?
Not really. Why not call it a portable web browser, a camera, a text machine, a portable gaming system, or a data organizer? It's not really a phone anymore. It's an electronic device with phone capabilities.
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What if that becomes the new definition of phone? Why does the name matter?
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What if that becomes the new definition of phone? Why does the name matter?
I'm just saying if a compnay wants to appear to be innovative. Create a device that they consider to be above what we now know of as a phone.
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Samsung's commercials bash he new iPhone for being nothing exciting, but then they say nothing about their phone? Are they doing anything new?
Not really.
The problem with technology is the rate at which it is evolving. You have many companies releasing new phones so often, it's hard to get anything that can really be defined as 'new'. Everything that comes out now is just a more advanced version of a previous technology. Innovations for mobile phones have hit a plateau. Camera's, multi-core processors, the touch screen, multi-touch gestures, facial recognition, and the seamless integration into everything were innovative. What new is there to do with a phone that can be deemed innovative and not just an upgrade? I'm sure there is something, but I can't think of anything really ground breaking off hand.
Maybe things like;
- Controlling the phone with your brain (way off)
- Laser keyboards (possible https://www.utechnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/How-do-laser-projection-keyboards-work.jpg )
- Precise eye-tracking and facial gestures
- 3D camera systems
- Twin touch screens to make a mini tablet (already tried by some manufacturers)
- No physical phone, an earpiece could project the screen onto your hand or any surface (way off)
My point is, there is only so much innovation you can put in your hand. The power and capabilities will continue to improve at an awesome pace, but things that can be considered 'new'... I don't think there is much left. The only area that I can think that phones can still vastly improve is battery life. That lies mostly in the screen technology. If my iPad can run for 8+ hours using wifi, my phone should be able to do the same. I still wouldn't call that an innovation though. It's just another upgrade. A phone that could charge with built in solar panels would be fucking sweet. Maybe even something like charge the battery via shaking motions while walking, something along the lines of an automatic watch winding itself. Granted one is increasing mechanical potential energy and one is increasing electrical potential energy, but it might be possible.
This would make a really good thread topic. I'd love to hear other people's opinion on what else they think can be packed into a smart phone. I'm still waiting for a company to release something without the "phone" title. The phone feature is probably my least used feature on my phone. I think I used a whopping 450 minutes last year, most of which were long conversations with school officials and insurance people.
I agree with this fully. What really has changed much since the first iPhone to the present? Huge refinements to everything, some new software, but the same innovations remain. Even if the phone can recharge via solar power; it still remains a useful portable computer.
Who knows what is the next thing is; those who will invent it will figure out. I do not understand the flak for updates to everything; only so much they can do.
I think people have bought into Apple's hyperbole too much, expecting each device to truly be revolutionary.
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Samsung's commercials bash he new iPhone for being nothing exciting, but then they say nothing about their phone? Are they doing anything new?
Huh? I'm pretty sure they say, very blatantly, 5 or 6 things about their phone. And since when has Apple ever had ads that talked in depth about their products? Hell, I can't recall a single Mac vs PC ad that actually said something that their computers or OSX did.
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Samsung's commercials bash he new iPhone for being nothing exciting, but then they say nothing about their phone? Are they doing anything new?
Huh? I'm pretty sure they say, very blatantly, 5 or 6 things about their phone. And since when has Apple ever had ads that talked in depth about their products? Hell, I can't recall a single Mac vs PC ad that actually said something that their computers or OSX did.
Those ads were nothing but generalized lies that tried to convince people that PCs were basically still running DOS. :lol
The iPad/iPhone ads don't really say anything about the product. They just spout some pretentious ramble about their products being magical, or defying the laws of physics.
A lot of ads seem to be following Apple's lead, because ads never seem to tell you anything anymore. They just try to make the product look as futuristic and indispensable as possible, without actually telling you anything specific.
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Thats true that ads in general often show little to nothing about the product, but the Samsung commercials do give some info on thier phones, like the tap phones to exchange playlists featured in that one commercial.
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It's probably because I don't watch TV very often. But the commercial I'm talking about was the one where the guys was saving a spot in the iPhone 5 line for his parents. People in line sounded excited for nothing saying things like, "Get this. Headphone jack...on the bottom!" And after the scene, it just said something like, "Why wait for the hype? The new Galaxy S3 is already here." That's it.
EDIT: Okay. I looked up the commercial, and it turns out I saw a short version. In the full version it touts how you can share things by touching phones. There an iPhone app for that. Then it says the S3's screen is bigger, but the iPhone 5 has a higher resolution. And it even uses the fact that they've had 4G for longer as an argument. That doesn't make one phone better than the other.
I'm not trying to say the iPhone 5 is better. But everything they say doesn't matter. Eh. I guess it's just normal marketing right?
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Yeah the hell 4G makes a difference considering it's the new market standard (until real 4G comes out). It wasn't like the technology wasn't available when the 4S came out, Apple just straight up did not include what should've been one of the most important features.
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The "iPad 5" (New iPad) will come out in the regular March/April date, will the New iPad Mini as well?
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Guys, I decided to buy iphone5 but there some doubts in my mind. I've seen and read some problems about it, especially about its stripping matter.
(https://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229876_413547668694194_14758980_n.jpg)
Some says it's because of the first part product, the second ones and the others will be fine. I'm now using Dell Streak Tablet phone but honestly I want to experience ios so wanna buy iphone. Though I can buy iphone4s but I can't resist the lightness and slimness that iphone5 offers to me.
Thoughts?
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What do you mean stripping? I haven't had any problems with mine yet.
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I haven't had issues with mine either, and I don't use any cases or screen protectors. As long as you don't abuse it, I wouldn't expect it to scratch any worse than any other phone.
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Well as the picture serves it definitely has this problem but of course it's matter of using it. I can't say I use phones tenderly but this scratching problem bugs me so much. Some people has this problem some not.
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The apparent scuffs was a slight concern for me, almost to the point where I was going to wait longer until they figured out manufacturing issues.
HOWEVER
I have the white iPhone5, which I guess is more resistant to the wear, and I feel the talk is overblown. I think so many people use the phones, or are used to certain level or something that this has received so much attention. The previous two were glass ones, which really do not scuff, just crack.
Compared to my last phone (HTC Evo3d), the phone is great. I have a case around it, but the build feels solid. And I have not had any of the chips or light leaks. Also, the aluminium back feels the same as the MacBooks, which I feel are pretty durable.
Scratches will happen, and I would return if it came like that out of the box. But I do wonder what the hell people are doing with their phones to get these scratches and chips as others have said. I dropped the Evo3d a lot, and didn't use a case for awhile, and it showed. But stuff that happened to that phone (rim coming off) does not feel like it will happen to iPhone 5's.
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I'm looking for an ipad smart case... but apparently they are only for Gen 2 and up? Is there any similar items for gen 1?
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I'm looking for an ipad smart case... but apparently they are only for Gen 2 and up? Is there any similar items for gen 1?
Well, I believe you could use the Smart Cover for the iPad1, it just will not turn off the screen. My brother has this case for his iPad1.
https://www.amazon.com/Original-Apple-CASE-ZML-MC361ZM-Packaging/dp/B003CGMQ38/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1351985050&sr=8-4&keywords=ipad+1+case
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hmm thanks
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Can I get my iPad to read cbr (comic books) formats?
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Can I get my iPad to read cbr (comic books) formats?
Dunno if this helps, but there are applications for Marvel and DC to buy and read comic books. And on the Ibooks application you can download comics to.
Unless I misunderstood you.
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Can I get my iPad to read cbr (comic books) formats?
Search the App Store for a CBR reader, there has to be a free one there!
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Thanks guys.
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Can I get my iPad to read cbr (comic books) formats?
I use comic flow. Works really well.
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I bought the iPhone 5. It's so beautiful.
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Getting my iPhone 5 tomorrow! :biggrin:
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I want an iphone but there's no way I can justify to myself spending 669 euros for a phone. If the 4S was cheaper I wouldn't mind getting that one, but 569 for an old model is outrageous.
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just got an iPad recently.
What are some of the apps you use all the time and what do you do with them?
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I has got seasonal job at Apple.
Go me.
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I has got seasonal job at Apple.
Go me.
Congrats man! Have fun!
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Congrats man! Have fun!
Thanks! The interview process is interesting, for anyone who wants to apply :P
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just got an iPad recently.
What are some of the apps you use all the time and what do you do with them?
I use an app called "In Class" every day. It makes organizing school very easy.
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Congrats man! Have fun!
Thanks! The interview process is interesting, for anyone who wants to apply :P
When I move east to Alberta for my last few years of University I'm going to apply!
EDIT: Also just picked up my iPhone 5, oh my god, this feels amazing!
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iPhone 5 users! I need input! What good apps are optimized for the 5! :tup
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Anyone's iMessage working? Mine up here in Canada isn't. :(
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Google Maps is finally available. Although I'm now more used to Waze, which is awesome.
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I seemed to be one of the few not bashing Apple Maps, but it seems that both of the Google Apps, that Apple ditched in the iOS 6 release, massively improved now that Google could update them. I love the new Google Maps, but even more so I actually use the new Youtube now because it's so much easier to use.
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Google Maps is finally available. Although I'm now more used to Waze, which is awesome.
Same here. Waze with the social information of traffic and fuzz is unbeatable.
And I do not like this version of Google Maps.
I did use it on Android (until I discovered Waze), and I found this version on iOS not as good. I have no idea to drive to contact's addresses, and driving to a place I searched for takes an extra tap now. Not as intuitive, but I am only speaking of my experience with the Android OS version.
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Speaking of maps.
Apple maps > Google maps.
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Why do you say that?
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???
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Why is Apple Maps better than Google Maps?
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Ohh sorry, drunk here.
I'm not regular user of maps but as a matter of their appearance apple takes the cake for me. It's practical and aesthetics. I failed to find a place with using google maps once but this never happens to me with apple.
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Fair enough! My case is the opposite. Apple Maps kept crashing when I tried to use navigation. Google's app works just fine.
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Anybody here playing the Simpsons Tapped Out game?
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Hey there Apple freaks. Question:
How big a difference does the Retina display make on the iPad and MacBook Pro? Also, will it be available for the MacBook Air soon?
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On the iPad it makes a huge difference. A non-retina iPad just looks a little crappy. On the macbook it's less IN YOUR FACE but you definitely see a big difference.
I think it won't be long for the macbook Air.
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On the iPad it makes a huge difference. A non-retina iPad just looks a little crappy. On the macbook it's less IN YOUR FACE but you definitely see a big difference.
I think it won't be long for the macbook Air.
This, I recently upgraded from an iPad 2 to a 4th Gen and it's such a massive difference!
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Don't mind me guys... Just over here typing on my new wireless keyboard! :)
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Been doing that since '05, wireless mouse too.
Sup
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I bought the Apple wireless keyboard when I bought my iPad. I used it twice in the last two years.
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Not sure If anyone has heard, but Apple Announced a 128gb iPad today!
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Not sure If anyone has heard, but Apple Announced a 128gb iPad today!
I wish it was a wireless game controller instead.
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Not sure If anyone has heard, but Apple Announced a 128gb iPad today!
I just tweeted about this, now I worked for Apple for seasonal work. I don't understand why on Earth anyone would need a 128gb iPad the 64gb ones sold slower than a... I can't think of a metaphor right now, but it was really slow!
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Not sure If anyone has heard, but Apple Announced a 128gb iPad today!
I just tweeted about this, now I worked for Apple for seasonal work. I don't understand why on Earth anyone would need a 128gb iPad the 64gb ones sold slower than a... I can't think of a metaphor right now, but it was really slow!
Possible indication of the 16GB phase out?? Maybe the 128GB will get a price drop to the current 64GB price, and the 32GB will be dropped to the price of the 16GB
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I'm fine with my 16 gig one lol. It does the job.
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Not sure If anyone has heard, but Apple Announced a 128gb iPad today!
I would imagine the people at Microsoft are the ones tearing their hair out right now. The 128GB (83GB actual storage) Surface Pro priced at $100 more than this one. lol. :metal
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Not sure If anyone has heard, but Apple Announced a 128gb iPad today!
I would imagine the people at Microsoft are the ones tearing their hair out right now. The 128GB (83GB actual storage) Surface Pro priced at $100 more than this one. lol. :metal
Nah, the iPad doesn't run OSX. $100 extra to be able to run a full operating system with a lot more potential will be well worth it for a bunch of people.
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Not sure If anyone has heard, but Apple Announced a 128gb iPad today!
I would imagine the people at Microsoft are the ones tearing their hair out right now. The 128GB (83GB actual storage) Surface Pro priced at $100 more than this one. lol. :metal
Nah, the iPad doesn't run OSX. $100 extra to be able to run a full operating system with a lot more potential will be well worth it for a bunch of people.
The added flash drive and mouse support are well worth that extra hundred bucks.
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Not sure If anyone has heard, but Apple Announced a 128gb iPad today!
I just tweeted about this, now I worked for Apple for seasonal work. I don't understand why on Earth anyone would need a 128gb iPad the 64gb ones sold slower than a... I can't think of a metaphor right now, but it was really slow!
Possible indication of the 16GB phase out?? Maybe the 128GB will get a price drop to the current 64GB price, and the 32GB will be dropped to the price of the 16GB
Possible I suppose, apps do seem to be getting more content based and therefore bigger. But then again, since when have Apple ever reduced prices apart from when it is for the most part discontinued (the 16gb iPad 2 for instance)...
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Not sure If anyone has heard, but Apple Announced a 128gb iPad today!
I just tweeted about this, now I worked for Apple for seasonal work. I don't understand why on Earth anyone would need a 128gb iPad the 64gb ones sold slower than a... I can't think of a metaphor right now, but it was really slow!
Possible indication of the 16GB phase out?? Maybe the 128GB will get a price drop to the current 64GB price, and the 32GB will be dropped to the price of the 16GB
Possible I suppose, apps do seem to be getting more content based and therefore bigger. But then again, since when have Apple ever reduced prices apart from when it is for the most part discontinued (the 16gb iPad 2 for instance)...
Since when has Apple just ever randomly dropped a new product on the market without warning? They never used to do that. I think Apple is adapting their business strategy.
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Apple regularly comes out with new models with higher storage, phases out the low end storage of the previous version, and don't increase the price.
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Android continues to completely dominate the Smartphone market:
https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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Android continues to completely dominate the Smartphone market:
https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Dat obvious flame bait
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Android continues to completely dominate the Smartphone market:
https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
I always hear this, but I probably see 3 iPhones for any other phone in my area. I have an Android phone though.
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Android continues to completely dominate the Smartphone market:
https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
I always hear this, but I probably see 3 iPhones for any other phone in my area. I have an Android phone though.
I believe globally it's different. And different areas probably will have different makeups. I do think Apple attracts a higher SES because of their stuff being so expensive in comparison.
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Of course there are going to be more android devices out there, do you know how many devices android is actually on? It's ridiculous. Who cares. The iPhone is still the number 1 selling smartphone, but guess what.. Who really cares about that either. Just use what you use and enjoy it.
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On another note. Mike Mangini just posted this cool pic!
"Putting this iPad up high and in front has been a great move with lots of applications. I wish I had it way back when I had to perform tunes without really learning them by taping tons of small song outlines all over my kit ! There's got to be a lot of you that did that ?? And I can't imagine all the hockey games that I could've watched on stage in my 80's cover band years :)"
https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/tjanuranus/ScreenShot2013-02-17at101739AM_zps7063a1cb.png (https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/tjanuranus/ScreenShot2013-02-17at101739AM_zps7063a1cb.png)
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Android continues to completely dominate the Smartphone market:
https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
I always hear this, but I probably see 3 iPhones for any other phone in my area. I have an Android phone though.
Anecdotal; Around here, you see some iPhones, but Android (especially HTC and Samsung) seems to be the overwhelming majority. You actually see quite a few Blackberry phones around here too (more or less on par with iPhone).
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Android continues to completely dominate the Smartphone market:
https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
I always hear this, but I probably see 3 iPhones for any other phone in my area. I have an Android phone though.
Anecdotal; Around here, you see some iPhones, but Android (especially HTC and Samsung) seems to be the overwhelming majority. You actually see quite a few Blackberry phones around here too (more or less on par with iPhone).
I was with a group of people last night. 7 android devices and 0 iphones.
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What is the purpose of this discussion?
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Android continues to completely dominate the Smartphone market:
https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 (https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)
Dat obvious flame bait
Right, the guy who owns two iPhones, three iPads and a $4000 studio Mac is flame baiting the apple thread :lol
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Android continues to completely dominate the Smartphone market:
https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 (https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/tech/mobile/smartphone-sales-apple-android/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)
I always hear this, but I probably see 3 iPhones for any other phone in my area. I have an Android phone though.
Anecdotal; Around here, you see some iPhones, but Android (especially HTC and Samsung) seems to be the overwhelming majority. You actually see quite a few Blackberry phones around here too (more or less on par with iPhone).
The iPhone is very popular in some places, but facts are facts. From the article:
Android continues to dominate in the battle to be the top smartphone system in the world, thanks in part to Samsung, which reigned as the top phone manufacturer for 2012.
Android grew its already significant chunk of the smartphone market to 68.8% last year, while Apple's iOS operating system stayed comfortably in second place with 18.8% of smartphone shipments, according to new stats from research firm IDC. Together, the two operating systems accounted for 87.6% of all new smartphones in 2012, leaving struggling competitors BlackBerry and Windows far behind.
Now, I've owned both and I prefer the iPhone by quite a wide a margin. Mostly because I think the App market is better. But there are things that annoy me about the iPhone that I think hold it back. The biggest one is the fact that I have use that steaming pile of shit, iTunes, to move any data to/from it. The lack of USB connectivity doesn't help either.
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So what does everyone think about the rumored iWatch? Has it been discussed yet?
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So what does everyone think about the rumored iWatch? Has it been discussed yet?
I love the idea. I bought a Sony smart watch not too long ago for my Android phone. It's really cool, but it seems really underdeveloped and not of the best quality. For $120 bucks though, I can't really complain. It has a lot of cool elements and could be really cool if it evolves a bit down the road. If I had an iPhone, I'd be all over the iWatch when/if it comes out. I really hope someone comes out with a high quality Android one soon.
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I've had an ipod nano watch for a while now. A real one would be cool though lol
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So my iPod Classic lasted a total of 1 month before the headphone jack became screwed up and only played sound out of the left speaker. Then another few weeks before it now switches, pauses, and plays songs at random no matter if it's locked, on a screen where it's literally impossible to interact with the song, or whatever else. Wonderful.
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I ended up buying a Macbook Air to complement my iPad. That iPad is cool, but sometimes I felt too confined by a mobile OS and wanted OS X. I wonder if I am the only one who basically made the iPad take a backseat to a laptop...
The Macbook Air is a spectacular machine. I don't need an optical drive on it as long as I have my iMac. Of course, I could buy a USB optical drive if I needed one...
I have no problem with the screen on the Air. Looks really nice and sharp to me. :tup
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So my iPod Classic lasted a total of 1 month before the headphone jack became screwed up and only played sound out of the left speaker. Then another few weeks before it now switches, pauses, and plays songs at random no matter if it's locked, on a screen where it's literally impossible to interact with the song, or whatever else. Wonderful.
Send it back or take it to the sheep colony, should have a 90 day warranty.
Some people will say "see, HDs suck, flash/SSD!" But iPod classics have sucked and been the forgotten child since at the earliest iPod Mini/Nano, and obviously then iPhone/IPTouch. I'm convinced Apple does nothing with them besides selling them. No improvements really besides minor upgrades a few years. If there wasn't the hardcore music fan base that demands space, they'd be gone.
Mine since day one (6/2009) rebooted at random. Which makes listening to things a challenge if it is long (songs, podcasts and at worst, audiobooks). No problem like that with my wives Nano or my ayephone.
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Gotta be honest, I've enjoyed the iPad, but the lack of compatibility with Microsoft Office is a HUGE bummer.
My company is about to purchase about 120 of these Dell Latitude 10 tablets (running Windows 8) and they're actually pretty sweet because I can run Microsoft Office right on them and they can pretty much do anything the iPad can do and WAY more, because they have USB ports and SD card slots!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55966936/Dell_Tablet1.JPG)
Probably going to be selling my iPad pretty soon.
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I can't stand Outlook. :lol. Those tablets look cool though and you're right, those features definitely makes it a better all-in-one device.
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Well, Outlook's our corporate standard here. The other thing is, these tablets have similar SPECS to the iPad, but they cost about $200 less, plus they can join our corporate domain, access file shares on servers, printers, etc. Frankly, I find them vastly superior to the iPad in just about every conceivable way. The only place that Apple is ahead right now is with apps and I suspect that will change in time.
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Yeah, the last place I worked use Outlook, but it was optional. It was all routed through Google Apps, so we had the option of using web-based (Gmail) or Outlook.
I still have my iPad 3, the "new" one before they introduced the "new"-er iPad with the Lightning connection, and I still love it. I had owned two other Android tablets prior; the Motorola Xoom and the Galaxy Tab 10.1". Both weren't bad, but my #1 priority in a tablet is smoothness (scrolling) and responsiveness to touch (latency, processing), and Android hadn't reached the same level as Apple at that time, so I switched and haven't looked back.
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Actually right now my favorite computing device is my Lenovo ThinkPad UltraBook convertable.
Laptop Mode:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55966936/Lenovo_laptop_mode.jpg)
Tablet Mode:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55966936/lenovo_table_mode.jpg)
Hands-Free-Table-Top-Mode:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55966936/Lenovo_book_mode.jpg)
Nice device. Core i5 CPU, 4GB memory, 512GB Solid State drive......just gotta get used to Windows 8....not quite there yet.
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That's a nice piece of hardware! :tup
I haven't upgraded to Windows 8 yet, which says a lot, considering I got Vista on release day ( :facepalm: ) and a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate for hosting a "Windows 7 Launch Party". :lol I know there are tweaks you can do to make it look more like 7, but I don't really feel like spending money to re-install windows and configure a system that is no better than what already works.
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Yeah, believe me, I don't really want to go down this Windows 8 road, given that I have been extremely impressed with and happy with Windows 7 since it came out, but......I run an I.T. Department at a company with 150 employees and I have no choice but to live on the "bleeding edge" as they say.
My main production laptop (what I am posting this from right now, in fact) is a Lenovo ThinkPad W510 with Windows 7 Pro. It's got 8GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD and it's blazing fast :eek
I have no real NEED to these other devices, but I have to kind of force myself to use them a bit so that when the time comes I can support them.
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Meanwhile, through all of this, we're sticking with iPhones as our mobile phone/email platform because unlikely the Blackberry, they require no middleware (e.g. they're cheaper to operate despite costing more to acquire)
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So no talk about iOS 7? It has been a couple of weeks since reveal...
(https://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/r/story/70/00/016582/screen-shot-2013-06-10-at-14-20-14-v1-620x344.png?hash=L2LlZGZlMw&upscale=1)
https://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/#videos
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I'm using it as my daily driver and loving it so far, even with the few bugs on the beta version it's smooth as hell, just installing beta 2 on my phone as we speak!
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I didn't know you were a developer. :)
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Just started recently :)
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Just started recently :)
nice! Looking for a job in Chicago? I'm hiring for one lol
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At some point - all Apple products will just become " iDevice " .
They'll all just come with the same iOS and you will just choose your 'shape.'
Desktop - Laptop - Tablet , Pod or Smartphone.
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At some point - all Apple products will just become " iDevice " .
They'll all just come with the same iOS and you will just choose your 'shape.'
Desktop - Laptop - Tablet , Pod or Smartphone.
That's how it should be. They're almost there. Microsoft is pulling it off pretty well.
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Just started recently :)
nice! Looking for a job in Chicago? I'm hiring for one lol
Haha if it was possible for me to move I would, just not feasible at the moment!
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Just started recently :)
So is that your job rather than as a personal hobby?
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At some point - all Apple products will just become " iDevice " .
They'll all just come with the same iOS and you will just choose your 'shape.'
Desktop - Laptop - Tablet , Pod or Smartphone.
That's how it should be. They're almost there. Microsoft is pulling it off imitating what Apple does pretty well.
FTFY
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At some point - all Apple products will just become " iDevice " .
They'll all just come with the same iOS and you will just choose your 'shape.'
Desktop - Laptop - Tablet , Pod or Smartphone.
That's how it should be. They're almost there. Microsoft is pulling it off imitating what Apple does pretty well.
FTFY
The OS on the macs and their notebooks is far from the OS on Apple's handheld and tablet devices. Microsofts variance between devices is much smaller and more streamlined.
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Maybe so, but I wouldn't say Microsoft is pulling it off since the are now back peddling with their metro UI. I actually love windows 8 but only on my touch screen laptop, hell no to my desktop.
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Maybe so, but I wouldn't say Microsoft is pulling it off since the are now back peddling with their metro UI. I actually love windows 8 but only on my touch screen laptop, hell no to my desktop.
They didn't really back pedal from what I read. They've brought back the start button. It has the same functionality as the old start button, but with the new UI. I think it was a cool move.
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Yes you are right but the user will have the option to boot to standard windows instead of metro.
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Question for all you Mac junkies:
Should I buy a new computer during tax-free weekend?
My current computer is five years old and can't hold a charge! It can't install a lot of new software (TurboTax for example) and has less than 100GB of space left. I've already had to get it repaired once at the Apple Store, which cost $300!
What's holding me back is that my current computer still gives me everything I really need. If I get a new computer, there won't be a single unique thing I use it for that I couldn't use my current computer for.
What say you?
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My current computer is five years old and can't hold a charge! It can't install a lot of new software (TurboTax for example) and has less than 100GB of space left....
What's holding me back is that my current computer still gives me everything I really need. If I get a new computer, there won't be a single unique thing I use it for that I couldn't use my current computer for.
... Definitely seems to me like a new computer would be able to do things your old computer can't.
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Question for all you Mac junkies:
Should I buy a new computer during tax-free weekend?
My current computer is five years old and can't hold a charge! It can't install a lot of new software (TurboTax for example) and has less than 100GB of space left. I've already had to get it repaired once at the Apple Store, which cost $300!
What's holding me back is that my current computer still gives me everything I really need. If I get a new computer, there won't be a single unique thing I use it for that I couldn't use my current computer for.
What say you?
Sounds like it can wait 'till next year, right? :) Space you can solve by buying an external hard drive. I guess the not holding charge thing is annoying but you seem to be ok with it so... If you really want a new one, just get one. But if you still get by fine I guess you could wait.
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Question for all you Mac junkies:
Should I buy a new computer during tax-free weekend?
My current computer is five years old and can't hold a charge! It can't install a lot of new software (TurboTax for example) and has less than 100GB of space left. I've already had to get it repaired once at the Apple Store, which cost $300!
What's holding me back is that my current computer still gives me everything I really need. If I get a new computer, there won't be a single unique thing I use it for that I couldn't use my current computer for.
What say you?
That's funny that your computer is 5 years old, because I'm in the exact same situation with my 5 year old white Macbook. It does everything I need it to do for the most part, except for its 2 gb's of ram are starting to really show their age and my 120 gb hard drive is almost completely filled up. I'm down to 3 gb's of space which is very annoying.
So yesterday, I ordered a brand new 2013 Macbook Air 11 inch with 8 gb's of Ram and 512 gb's of flash storage and the new Haswell processor which does 12 hours of battery life in the 13 inches and around 9 hours in the 11 inches. Sure it was expensive, but I know it will last me all the way through grad school and probably quite a while after that as well, so I'm happy.
So ultimately I would say it would be worth looking into the current line of Macbook airs and pros and if you were to see anything that you like and that was in your price range then to treat yourself.
P.S. If you are in school then you can get the educational discount upfront and then during Tax time you can write the new computer off as an "educational expense" and get the money back under the American opportunity tax credit for students so that's something to consider too.
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I wonder when they'll add Haswell to the MBPr models. I have a 13 inch 2010 Macbook Air that I might replace with a 13 inch MBPr once they get updated.
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Well, it was Christmas in August today:
(https://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/2D4BB65A-62FF-4BE3-944B-B842AC6DAF73-1309-000001813BD07E88_zpsed4a6fd0.jpg) (https://s1182.photobucket.com/user/phoenix87x/media/2D4BB65A-62FF-4BE3-944B-B842AC6DAF73-1309-000001813BD07E88_zpsed4a6fd0.jpg.html)
Just picked up a new Macbook Air for school this year.
Went with 8 gb's of ram, I7 Haswell, 512 gb SSD hardrive and the 11.6 inch, and so far I'm loving this thing. Definately blows my 2009 white macbook out of the water.
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How do you find the 11" screen? I don't think I could ever get anything done on that.
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How do you find the 11" screen? I don't think I could ever get anything done on that.
That's exactly how I felt too.
I was pretty much dead set on getting the 13 inch, but when I went to the Apple store to check it out, I decided to goof around with the 11 inch for the hell of it. I played with both of them for a while, going back and forth between the two, and ended up falling in love with the 11 inch.
Ultimately, before I got my hands on it, the 11 inch seemed too small, but after using it all day yesterday, It feels perfect.
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Ultimately, before I got my hands on it, the 11 inch seemed too small, but after using it all day yesterday, It feels perfect.
This is so sig-worthy.
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(https://whatwoulddadsay.com/files/2008/09/bow.jpg)
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How much did that set you back?
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With the student discount, the computer itself came to around $1400, but after tax, the total cost was just shy of $1500 dollars. But what was nice is that for students they give a free $100 apple giftcard, which was very appreciated.
Here's the breakdown
(https://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/ScreenShot2013-08-07at101642AM_zpsd6855b61.png) (https://s1182.photobucket.com/user/phoenix87x/media/ScreenShot2013-08-07at101642AM_zpsd6855b61.png.html)
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$1500 for an 11" display :'(
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$1500 for an 11" display :'(
One thing to keep in mind is that I maxed out the specs. You can get a baseline model for $949 if it suits your needs.
But, the beauty of it all is that when tax season you can write it off as an "educational" expense and by using the American Opportunity tax credit for college students, you can re-coup the entire cost. Just something to consider.
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$1500 for an 11" display :'(
>Apple
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How do you find the 11" screen? I don't think I could ever get anything done on that.
That's exactly how I felt too.
I was pretty much dead set on getting the 13 inch, but when I went to the Apple store to check it out, I decided to goof around with the 11 inch for the hell of it. I played with both of them for a while, going back and forth between the two, and ended up falling in love with the 11 inch.
Ultimately, before I got my hands on it, the 11 inch seemed too small, but after using it all day yesterday, It feels perfect.
Cool. :) Enjoy. I like the space I have on my 15" MBP, but granted it is heavy to drag around everywhere.
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iOS7 is almost here!!!
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You know what's better than iOS 7? A version of Android from like three years ago :P
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Dude, friend showed me iOS 7 today, it's actually pretty fucking neato burrito :P
agh, it takes sooooo long, I've gone through CHVRCHES album and closing up on Carcass's Surgical Steel.
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iOS7 is really neato!
The only compaint I have is how it shows huge album art in the music app. Now I have to scroll 3 times as much to get to where I'm going. :(
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^^this. Also it seems my battery life has worsened.
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iOS7 is really neato!
The only compaint I have is how it shows huge album art in the music app. Now I have to scroll 3 times as much to get to where I'm going. :(
I'm really not liking it so far, one of the reasons being what you stated. Apple has wasted space everywhere. I HATE what they've done with the folders. It only shows 9 icons at a time, and you now have to scroll through the folders. I thought the point of the folders (outside of organization) was to not have to scroll left and right so much.
I mean, look at this. SO much wasted space. They could have made that window a little bigger, and 16 icons would have easily fit in it. Stupid.
(https://imageshack.us/a/img69/3394/vbw6.jpg)
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True, but maybe they will update that. You couldn't fit a lot more icons on the iPhone screen.
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True, but maybe they will update that. You couldn't fit a lot more icons on the iPhone screen.
I understand that, but there's got to be at least 100 million iPads out there by now.... I feel like that should have been addressed immediately. I can' t be the only user that feels this way. I'm amazed that Apple didn't see an issue with it.
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I'm completely loving it so far, in fact, my battery life is actually a bit better now, ain't that pretty neat?
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I much prefer the new swipe to cancel app manager.
Also like the new swipe up menu to access torch, music player etc etc. :tup
Oh - and if you have a static wallpaper - tilt your phone and the wallpaper moves with the phone providing a nice 3D effect for your icons. :tup
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I much prefer the new swipe to cancel app manager.
How does that work?
Also, is there a way I can quickly change my brightness setting? I used to be able to just double tap the home icon, now that feature is gone. Do I have to go into my settings each time, or did they change the shortcut?
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Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to get a new menu.
Also - double click home button and then swipe open apps to the top of the screen to cancel them.
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Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to get a new menu.
Also - double click home button and then swipe open apps to the top of the screen to cancel them.
Ugh. I'm sure that works great on a phone when you primarily use your thumb, but that's not very user-friendly on an iPad. I really hope some things get changed.
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No I use my index finger mainly :p
I cant type with two thumbs. Never been able to do it . :dunno:
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iOS7 is really neato!
The only compaint I have is how it shows huge album art in the music app. Now I have to scroll 3 times as much to get to where I'm going. :(
I'm really not liking it so far, one of the reasons being what you stated. Apple has wasted space everywhere. I HATE what they've done with the folders. It only shows 9 icons at a time, and you now have to scroll through the folders. I thought the point of the folders (outside of organization) was to not have to scroll left and right so much.
I mean, look at this. SO much wasted space. They could have made that window a little bigger, and 16 icons would have easily fit in it. Stupid.
I can see the reasoning for it, as I can't tell you how many times I've stared at one of my 16-app folders unable to quickly find the app I want. While increasing empty space makes it look so....empty, it also makes identifying and selecting the correct app a bit easier.
I haven't updated yet, to wait out issues that I know will crop up in the first few weeks.
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iOS7 is really neato!
The only compaint I have is how it shows huge album art in the music app. Now I have to scroll 3 times as much to get to where I'm going. :(
I'm really not liking it so far, one of the reasons being what you stated. Apple has wasted space everywhere. I HATE what they've done with the folders. It only shows 9 icons at a time, and you now have to scroll through the folders. I thought the point of the folders (outside of organization) was to not have to scroll left and right so much.
I mean, look at this. SO much wasted space. They could have made that window a little bigger, and 16 icons would have easily fit in it. Stupid.
I can see the reasoning for it, as I can't tell you how many times I've stared at one of my 16-app folders unable to quickly find the app I want. While increasing empty space makes it look so....empty, it also makes identifying and selecting the correct app a bit easier.
I haven't updated yet, to wait out issues that I know will crop up in the first few weeks.
That's why I alphabetize them all! I want my old iPad back :(
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I like the cover view in Music Player - and being able to close multiple apps at once .
The new " By The Seaside " ringtone is :rollin
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Enjoying iOS 7 a lot on an iPhone 5. As this is my first iOS device, the change is not hard for me. And the borrowing of things from Android is obvious. Now Apple and Google are equal, as Android ripped iOS to begin.
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Ugh... I hate how the got rid of the Google bar next to the URL bar. That was so convenient.
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But the URL bar IS the search bar ?!
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I think he mean a search box that automatically sends you to the Google search engine.
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Yeah, you can just type it in the "URL" bar, like in google chrome. If it's not an URL it will go to google search.
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The new design seems to be made to be more user friendly. I was a bit worried at first, since it wouldn't be the first time Apple would screw up functionality for looks, but I'm really loving iOS 7!
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There goes the fingerprint "security":
https://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/iphone-fingerprint-cracked/
Not really surprising. Mythbusters did a whole episode on breaking into biometric systems, and fingerprints were one of the easiest to break. What's disturbing is that Apple would make those patently false claims about the security of it.
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There goes the fingerprint "security":
https://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/iphone-fingerprint-cracked/
Not really surprising. Mythbusters did a whole episode on breaking into biometric systems, and fingerprints were one of the easiest to break. What's disturbing is that Apple would make those patently false claims about the security of it.
This was inevitable. The iPhone only reads the print, correct? I don't think it has the more advanced biometric systems (temperature monitor, pulse, etc.. ). I was reading that there were firms offering as much as $13k-$14k to the first people to find a work around.
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I would never use that anyway. I don't even put a 4 digit pin on my phone.
I'm extremely careful and always make sure i've got my phone with me.
I've never ever left my mobile anywhere. And i've only ever broken one mobile in my life.
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I don't lock mine either. If I lose it/leave it somewhere. I want someone to be able to contact someone I recently messaged and let them know they found it. I've returned two phones that way. Had they been locked, I wouldn't have even known what to do with them.
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I lock mine, but I think I pulled up the phone/contact list while it was locked, so I'm not too worried.
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I've accidentally dropped my 4S on the floor a few times and there's not a scratch on it whilst I dropped my old Samsung on the the floor once and it totally shattered.
4S are proper tough.
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I've accidentally dropped my 4S on the floor a few times and there's not a scratch on it whilst I dropped my old Samsung on the the floor once and it totally shattered.
4S are proper tough.
My Razr HD Maxx has been dropped on pavement from talking height three times, has been dropped in a toilet twice, and has taken a tumble down an entire flight of stairs. I have no case, and no scratches.
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iOS7 is really neato!
The only compaint I have is how it shows huge album art in the music app. Now I have to scroll 3 times as much to get to where I'm going. :(
So far I don't like it. I'm in the album section of the music app and it's showing the album song order out of sequence like it's on permanent shuffle. Now, it looks like I can't listen to an album from beginning to end. WTF? Is there a way to put the song order back in sequence? Turning shuffle on or off doesn't seem to work.
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Did you try checking the tags on itunes? That's all I can think of.
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I went to Ask.com and others are having the same issue. However, if you sort by "Artist", the songs are in the correct order. ??? Others have said that resetting the settings fixes it, but then you have to redo everything in settings. That's not an option for me. I should've waited to download this upgrade. If they can't get something this simple done right, who knows what other glitches need to be fixed. :\
BTW, I'm experiencing this problem on my iPad 2. Maybe that has something to do with it? Who knows?
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I'm probably going to be picking up a 32GB iPad air. My second gen iPad is becoming outdated, and I've had to start deleting apps I've paid for to fit more music I've paid for. I think it's a pretty nice improvement, but I would have really liked to see Apple bring the price of the 32GB down to what the 16GB has been selling for the last few years. I'm going to put my iPad2 on Facebook for $250 with a $45 case included.
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OS X Mavericks is free and was released today. Looks like it's time for me to move on from Snow Leopard.
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Question for anybody with a MacBook or other Apple desktop: is there a hard drive "cleaner" that you use or recommend? My MacBook is running slow as shit, which is really weird bc I just had the hard drive replaced back in October. Anyway, it's really getting on my nerves. Don't know if something has been wrong since the new drive was installed or if it has a virus or what, but if I can't improve it soon I'm going to break the damn computer myself, lol
Thanks in advance for any replies.
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What could have possibly happened to your hard drive in 5 months to make your Macbook run slowly? I'm almost positive the problem is elsewhere, unless you're truly treating your computer like shit.
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Never was crazy for Macs mostly because they are over priced but my new job gave me a macbook pro and I'm really liking it. They also gave me an iPhone 5 and if I stay for a month I should get an iPad.
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What could have possibly happened to your hard drive in 5 months to make your Macbook run slowly? I'm almost positive the problem is elsewhere, unless you're truly treating your computer like shit.
What do you mean by 'elsewhere' ? No, I have not been treating it like shit, lol. My wife seems to think it has been running slowly ever since we got it back and that maybe something got messed up while they were fixing it. Who knows? Just thought I would see if anyone had any suggestions.
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By elsewhere he means RAM, resource-hogging programs, maybe a virus, things alone those lines.
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While on the subject of Apple issues,
I've had an Iphone 4s for a little over a year now and all of a sudden my battery can't even make it through the day, and that's starting at 100% in the morning. And when I get down to about 30%, the phone just shuts off dead.
Anybody have this happen to them. Any ideas for fixes or is this just normal battery wear.
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That's definitely not normal. You have it for just over a year so that means that the warranty just expired... Which means that you'll probably have to pay for a battery replacement if you want this fixed, either by Apple or third party.
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While on the subject of Apple issues,
I've had an Iphone 4s for a little over a year now and all of a sudden my battery can't even make it through the day, and that's starting at 100% in the morning. And when I get down to about 30%, the phone just shuts off dead.
Anybody have this happen to them. Any ideas for fixes or is this just normal battery wear.
I know there was some recent iOS update that was causing battery drain issues. Worth looking into (I am not an iPhone user so I haven't really paid much attention to what the update was or anything)
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While on the subject of Apple issues,
I've had an Iphone 4s for a little over a year now and all of a sudden my battery can't even make it through the day, and that's starting at 100% in the morning. And when I get down to about 30%, the phone just shuts off dead.
Anybody have this happen to them. Any ideas for fixes or is this just normal battery wear.
This is from the battery meter having an error with its calibration. Try a restore, or "reset all settings".
You can re calibrate the battery by letting it go to 0% and dying and then fully charging to 100% without removing it from the charger.
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Game of War - Fire Age
that is all.
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It's a sad day.....I've been using our departments iPad since December of 12'. I've gotten very used to it....very used to not having to 'pay' for it....very used to all the cool conviniences that it afforded me. I just had to pass it along to someone else in the department. I knew the day would come because it was never really 'mine', I was just testing it out per say...but I had it for so long I just figured no one else really wanted to use it or had any interest in it.
Now it looks like I have to buck up like the rest of the population and get some sort of tablet. I REALLY got used to using that thing for a lot of things other than work.
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It's a sad day.....I've been using our departments iPad since December of 12'. I've gotten very used to it....very used to not having to 'pay' for it....very used to all the cool conviniences that it afforded me. I just had to pass it along to someone else in the department. I knew the day would come because it was never really 'mine', I was just testing it out per say...but I had it for so long I just figured no one else really wanted to use it or had any interest in it.
Now it looks like I have to buck up like the rest of the population and get some sort of tablet. I REALLY got used to using that thing for a lot of things other than work.
I've checked out quite a few tablets over the last couple of years as my company has been slowly, but surely, upgrading our accounting systems. We now give all of our field techs a Windows 8.1 tablet (Dell Venue) and they use our software to write up work-orders and they can actually get a customer signature right on the tablet before they leave the job site. The tablets then automatically synchronize with the office. This has helped us reduce the amount of time it takes us to get a bill for a service call in the mail. It used to take us about 30 days to produce an invoice and now it takes....nothing.
We looked at the iPad first because when we were first setting up the system there were very few tablet options out there. But now, things are much different. Windows 8.1 is taking a HUGE bite out of Apple's share of the tablet market. And I think that trend will continue as Windows tablets get better and better with each generation. The newest ones we have here are smoking fast and packed with all kinds of great features, and the best part is the cost, which in many cases is less than half of what an iPad costs, and it's compatible with...everything.
The iPad is certainly a nice tablet, but like everything else Apple makes, it's massively overpriced, and that's the main reason we went elsewhere. It would have cost us about $15k to equip all of our techs with iPads. Instead, we got them top-of-the-line Windows 8.1 tablets and I'd be surprised if we end up hitting $8k when we're done with deployment.
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It's a sad day.....I've been using our departments iPad since December of 12'. I've gotten very used to it....very used to not having to 'pay' for it....very used to all the cool conviniences that it afforded me. I just had to pass it along to someone else in the department. I knew the day would come because it was never really 'mine', I was just testing it out per say...but I had it for so long I just figured no one else really wanted to use it or had any interest in it.
Now it looks like I have to buck up like the rest of the population and get some sort of tablet. I REALLY got used to using that thing for a lot of things other than work.
I've checked out quite a few tablets over the last couple of years as my company has been slowly, but surely, upgrading our accounting systems. We now give all of our field techs a Windows 8.1 tablet (Dell Venue) and they use our software to write up work-orders and they can actually get a customer signature right on the tablet before they leave the job site. The tablets then automatically synchronize with the office. This has helped us reduce the amount of time it takes us to get a bill for a service call in the mail. It used to take us about 30 days to produce an invoice and now it takes....nothing.
We looked at the iPad first because when we were first setting up the system there were very few tablet options out there. But now, things are much different. Windows 8.1 is taking a HUGE bite out of Apple's share of the tablet market. And I think that trend will continue as Windows tablets get better and better with each generation. The newest ones we have here are smoking fast and packed with all kinds of great features, and the best part is the cost, which in many cases is less than half of what an iPad costs, and it's compatible with...everything.
The iPad is certainly a nice tablet, but like everything else Apple makes, it's massively overpriced, and that's the main reason we went elsewhere. It would have cost us about $15k to equip all of our techs with iPads. Instead, we got them top-of-the-line Windows 8.1 tablets and I'd be surprised if we end up hitting $8k when we're done with deployment.
You know I've noticed near every Vendor Rep. that comes in and tries to sell me thier product cracks open a Windows tablet to show me product information or what not. Hardly any of the major Healthcare Vendors (Siemens/GE/Philips/Steris etc) seem to be carrying iPads. I'm definately in the market for one now and given your endorsment and the fact that I see them used industry wide, the Windows tablet is at the top of the list.
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In the terms of using them for work, windows is still a better option for companies for security and control features, plus easy integration with the MS Office products that most companies use.
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So my Iphone 4s battery is officially toast. Its now just randomly turning off at like 94% battery life. I've tried the full factory restore, a hard restart, power saving options, ect, ect, but the thing is done.
Not a big deal though since its about 2 years old, so its all good. It served me well. I just need to be patient until September, when I can get a newer one and in the meantime I guess I'm going to make good friends with this:
(https://hahaexpress.com/hahaexpress/2013/images/i4cccc.jpg)
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That cable won't fit your 4S though.
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Dumb me.
picture fixed
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According to the main site, looks like something (coughiphone6coughcough) is going to be announced 10am PDT
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Unless I can drag and drop files to it and not have to use iTunes as a transfer medium, I have zero interest in it.
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Come on, let it be an iWatch! Pleeeeease.
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I'd love an iWatch. I've been rocking a Pebble Steel for about 9 months and I love it. However, I'm sure it won't be compatible with Android, so you can count me out.
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I'd love an iWatch. I've been rocking a Pebble Steel for about 9 months and I love it. However, I'm sure it won't be compatible with Android, so you can count me out.
I would think an iWatch would be better than the Galazy Gear at this point. It almost has to be by default given how poorly the Gear was reviewed.
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My favorite thing about people upgrading to the new iphone is that I can now upgrade to last years model :)
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So my company provides us with apple products.... macbook pro, iphone 5, and ipad air. After 6 monthes now, I love my macbook pro. I probably wouldnt dish out the insanely high price for it, but its great for work. Everything works fine and its easy to use now that Ive gotten used to the OS. I wouldnt buy one, just because for that price I should be playing some high performance games as well. The Ipad, I love as well. Thin and light, and great for reading books. My iphone, I hate it. I understand the ipad and iphone are essentially the same, but my iphone feels so limited compared to my personal galaxy S5. Its too small and for my main device, I dont like that I cant do as much customization.
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I'm the same way. As far as tablets go, I wouldn't consider anything other than the iPad (I'm really hoping the 12.9" rumor turns out to be true). In terms of phones, I don't see myself getting an iPhone any time soon. I love Verizon's Droid line. I've owned three of them now and have no complaints whatsoever.
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I'll give it to Apple. That watch is sexy.
However, it is super fucking lame that the smallest/cheapest size available is still only 16GB.
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I love Tim Cook. He's such a fanboy and I love the direction he's taking the company
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I saw a great comment on a news article about the iPhone 6+
"You can tell a guy runs the Apple Marketing Department. Calling the iPhone 6+ when it is really only 5.5 inches."
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Hai gais.
My beloved 27' iMac is about to die, and it's time to buy a new Apple computer. It's to be noted that I work with this computer (I'm an Audio Engineer), so my line of work depends greatly on peripherials, reliable software and stability, etc. I've had no problems whatsoever with Apple so far, so I'm still giving my money to the Cupertino guys. I'm considering in buying a new Mac Pro so it can last longer than the iMac (I love it, but I didn't like the lack of expansion capabilities it has). Anyone here owns a Mac Pro?
Kisses.
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What makes you think it's about to die? Really, it should last a very, very long time.
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I've been having the black screen of death problem for the past 4 months or so. I already took the machine twice to the Apple Store and it has had some parts replaced, etc. to no avail. Upon calling the guys for third time they're telling me that if by that time the computer wasn't fixed already, the problem was from the logic board.
Thing is, that's one expensive part of the computer to replace so for the price they gave me I prefer to put in a few extra bucks and buy a more powerful machine because I might actually put the Mac Pro processor to some good use given the fact that I do use these computers to the max. A lot of processes I run require a lot of horse power, and although the iMac is an amazing computer it did fall short a couple of times.
On a side note, Yosemite is gorgeous. I feel it runs (and looks) smoother than Mavericks, so that's a great thing.
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I'm not really an Apple user, but can someone here explain to me why Apple Pay would succeed, when the same technology (NFC) already didn't work well with Google Wallet? I remember trying it with my HTC One at a CVS store, and quickly realized that if you use a case on your phone, NFC won't really work.
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Because Apple.
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Because Apple.
Basically, yeah.
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I'm not really an Apple user, but can someone here explain to me why Apple Pay would succeed, when the same technology (NFC) already didn't work well with Google Wallet? I remember trying it with my HTC One at a CVS store, and quickly realized that if you use a case on your phone, NFC won't really work.
To elaborate:
1) Ecosystem, Userbase and Partnerships
Though Android has a higher market share than iOS, a lot of that market share is in low-cost smartphones. In terms of top-of-the-line handsets, the iPhone is still king. So, Apple is selling more handsets with NFC than Google is. Apple will very quickly have a large number of users with Apple Pay on their phones, while Google does not. Because of this, the point I'm about to make, more intelligent negotiation, and brand recognition, Apple has already negotiated a set of Apple Pay partnerships with banks and retail chains and has widely publicized these. This will lead to more opportunities for users to use Apple Pay and more uses of it on the whole.
2) Privacy and Security
Google is, to put it quite frankly, a really sketchy company with this kind of thing. Google's revenue model is ad-based, so they make money off of selling user information to advertisers. Because of this business model, in which the real customer for Google is not users but advertisers, they have become completely desensitized to user privacy concerns. In contrast, Apple makes almost all their money off of device sales. Their customer is the user. Therefore, they are more responsive to user privacy concerns, and have recognized that this is a key point on which they can soundly defeat Google.
When Apple introduced Apple Pay, they devoted a significant portion of the time they spent on it talking about privacy. I think people would understandably have worries about putting their credit card or bank account information into a phone and putting an additional third party in the transaction between them and the seller. I think Apple has gone out of their way to address such concerns by stating that they will not store any information about transactions on their servers, instead keeping credit card information stored on the device in a dedicated chip. And, in fact, they've taken things a step further by assigning a device identification number to be used in transactions (along with a unique security code for each transaction) in place of credit card numbers. So beyond just taking steps to make the electronic payment system secure, they have actually made it MORE secure than using your plastic debit/credit card. That's a huge advantage over Google.
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I can see the argument of plain momentum, sure. But I don't see how they would circumvent the plain technological problem that NFC simply only works at *really* near field. If you have a case around your phone, chances are it won't really work.
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We use NFC at work... a Droid Mini and an S4 ... with Otterboxes on them. I guess if it gets popular enough the case manufacturers will start making more cases that work with NFC
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I think putting credit card information on a phone is an awful idea, no matter how secure they try to make it sound.
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I think putting credit card information on a phone is an awful idea, no matter how secure they try to make it sound.
It's almost as bad as those phone wallets. Yes... Put your Phone, ID and Credit Cards all in one convenient to steal package...
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The thing is that such advancements sound logical in terms of technological progress.
We don't live in a safe country/world? Well, that's a whole other story.
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MasterCard is planning on releasing this:
https://venturebeat.com/2014/10/17/mastercards-apple-pay-alternative-a-card-with-nfc-and-a-fingerprint-sensor/
I gotta say, if they can get it right, that would be my favorite choice.
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I think putting credit card information on a phone is an awful idea, no matter how secure they try to make it sound.
I don't really see how it's any better or worse than carrying a physical credit card in your wallet. It's actually probably a bit better, because you can remote wipe the phone if it gets stolen.
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I think putting credit card information on a phone is an awful idea, no matter how secure they try to make it sound.
This. That is my opinion as to why NFC is not really very popular and why Apple pay will also not be very popular. I know for myself, and I am sure I am not the only one, but making your phone similar to a credit card is really not something I am interested in doing. Phones are lost/stolen/borrowed way more than my credit cards are and to me, it feels like you are asking for someone to steal from you.
I have never used NFC so maybe there is some good security features that make my feelings about it null, but from an idealogy, I want my phone separate from my wallet. I have never lost my wallet before, but I have lost a phone. I've also handed over my phone to friends to use before, but I never hand over my wallet to people.
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I'm sure people said the exact same thing about the physical currency to digital currency switch when credit cards first started becoming popular.
I'm more concerned about my bank's security than I am my payment information being on my phone. I'm all for NFC.
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I'm sure people said the exact same thing about the physical currency to digital currency switch when credit cards first started becoming popular.
I'm more concerned about my bank's security than I am my payment information being on my phone. I'm all for NFC.
Except your bank has protection and if it gets stolen then you are able to recover. You are probably right in the long term but I won't be adopting in the near future.
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I'm sure people said the exact same thing about the physical currency to digital currency switch when credit cards first started becoming popular.
I'm more concerned about my bank's security than I am my payment information being on my phone. I'm all for NFC.
Except your bank has protection and if it gets stolen then you are able to recover. You are probably right in the long term but I won't be adopting in the near future.
But so does your phone. In order to use it you have to scan your thumb print. That's way more secure than someone watching you enter a 4-digit pin code and then stealing your card, or going to a register and just selecting "credit" as a payment option. If your credit card gets stolen and someone runs up charges (happened to me) the bank will reimburse you, or it won't process the transactions if you report it stolen. I don't see why this would work any differently. And unlike a credit card, if you lose your phone, you can pinpoint it to within feet via its GPS. Having your credit card on your phone is wayyy more secure and safe than having it on a card that you need to swipe. I remember when buying things on the internet first started taking off and you had people that would still go into stores because they felt their money wasn't safe enough floating around on the internet. Well, look what happened to brick and mortar stores thanks to Amazon. I bet within 5 years more people will use NFC than all other payment methods combined.
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I agree with your point about the future, but that doesn't mean NFC is secure now. Those finger print security on the phones are not that great and already proven to be hacked. Also, anyone who steals a phone now is going to know to turn off GPS and other tracking features if they are able to break into it quickly enough (unless you have one of those paid services that are much tougher to crack). My credit cards stay in my wallet and never go into someone elses hand except a cashier. My phone falls on the floor, gets used by friends/family/coworkers, gets serviced... That is where I see the biggest difference between a physically credit card and using a phone.
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But so does your phone. In order to use it you have to scan your thumb print. That's way more secure than someone watching you enter a 4-digit pin code and then stealing your card, or going to a register and just selecting "credit" as a payment option. If your credit card gets stolen and someone runs up charges (happened to me) the bank will reimburse you, or it won't process the transactions if you report it stolen. I don't see why this would work any differently. And unlike a credit card, if you lose your phone, you can pinpoint it to within feet via it's GPS.
Not only that, but, as I alluded to before, with the iPhone at least you can remote wipe your phone from your iCloud account. So even if someone manages to steal your iPhone and your fingerprint somehow, you can still just log onto your iCloud account and locate the phone and/or turn it into a brick. It's miles more secure than plastic cards. Consider that every time you pay with a card at a restaurant you are basically trusting that the server won't write down or photograph your card information. Fortunately since most people tend to be honorable in those types of situations that system usually works, but if you instead paid by NFC on a phone with a fingerprint reader? That's way more secure.
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Question about unlocked phones and Iphones
I currently have virgin mobile. No contract or anything. If I buy an "unlocked" Iphone on amazon, can I just strait up use it on Virgin mobile. Does anyone know how that works?
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So, they revealed the Apple Watch. Man, $550 for a watch that doesn't even look all that nice. I wonder how many they will sell.
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Apple is not what they used to be :'(
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So, they revealed the Apple Watch. Man, $550 for a watch that doesn't even look all that nice. I wonder how many they will sell.
I could have sworn I saw the price of one of them was $379 - but even that is pretty pricey.
That said, like everything Apple makes, they'll sell a metric shit-ton of these things in a few months.
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I feel like they're really testing their loyal userbase with these prices. I didn't think the iPad was going to take off like it did but at least there is an argument that it is practical and functional in everyday life. A smartwatch is just a glorified toy, unless they've somehow found a way to spin it into being a necessity.
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I feel like they're really testing their loyal userbase with these prices. I didn't think the iPad was going to take off like it did but at least there is an argument that it is practical and functional in everyday life. A smartwatch is just a glorified toy, unless they've somehow found a way to spin it into being a necessity.
This. And actually I stay away from iPads for this reason, because I did not see the point for me as a consumer. If my employer, now or a future one, decides to give me one to use, I will be all for it. But with my own money, no. I bought my wife an iPad, and she used it a lot for awhile. Then her phone got bigger, and the iPad is a spare device now. And to use a tablet as is (no ad ons) for any traditional productive work will lead to time wasted IMO. There is still something to be said for a full size, actual keyboard. Until dictation succeeds touch type speed, I'll stick with my tiny lapper.
I really enjoy the Mac I have, and an iPhone. And the next iPhone I choose may be a phablet or whatever, but I like a traditional computer, and an all in one personal device that can fit in my pocket. Having a watch just complicates it, and I cannot stand wearing a wrist watch. And one needs the phone to power the watch apparently. And that is then two devices to charge every night.
But yup, many Apple devotees will jump on, and somehow it will take it seems. :-/
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So, they revealed the Apple Watch. Man, $550 for a watch that doesn't even look all that nice. I wonder how many they will sell.
I could have sworn I saw the price of one of them was $379 - but even that is pretty pricey.
That said, like everything Apple makes, they'll sell a metric shit-ton of these things in a few months.
It's $550 for the fancier/office one. The sport verion (the one to the left in the image below) is $350. Either way, Pebble just unveiled their new models, the Pebble Time and the Pebble Time Steel. I backed the Time Steel on Kickstarter for $250. It doesn't have all the functionality of the Apple watch, but I think it is a far better product. Not to mention, it has a 10 day battery life and can work on both Android and iOS. I own the current generation Steel and never take it off (it monitors sleep information for me).
(https://media.bestofmicro.com/5/3/483591/original/applewatchpebbletimesteel_comparison.jpg)
There is one thing I haven't seen addressed. I'd like to know how durable this Apple watch is. Every person I know with an iPhone has demolished a screen at one time or another. Is this watchface going to shatter if you bump your wrist too hard into something?
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I feel like they're really testing their loyal userbase with these prices. I didn't think the iPad was going to take off like it did but at least there is an argument that it is practical and functional in everyday life. A smartwatch is just a glorified toy, unless they've somehow found a way to spin it into being a necessity.
This. And actually I stay away from iPads for this reason, because I did not see the point for me as a consumer. If my employer, now or a future one, decides to give me one to use, I will be all for it. But with my own money, no. I bought my wife an iPad, and she used it a lot for awhile. Then her phone got bigger, and the iPad is a spare device now. And to use a tablet as is (no ad ons) for any traditional productive work will lead to time wasted IMO. There is still something to be said for a full size, actual keyboard. Until dictation succeeds touch type speed, I'll stick with my tiny lapper.
I really enjoy the Mac I have, and an iPhone. And the next iPhone I choose may be a phablet or whatever, but I like a traditional computer, and an all in one personal device that can fit in my pocket. Having a watch just complicates it, and I cannot stand wearing a wrist watch. And one needs the phone to power the watch apparently. And that is then two devices to charge every night.
But yup, many Apple devotees will jump on, and somehow it will take it seems. :-/
Well my job gave me an Ipad Air, I never use it. Great device, but I only use it for reading and I havent had time to read like I used to so I dont use it. Like you, Id never buy one at the price point and even given a free one, I dont use it. However, I have two Samsung S5s, a macbook pro, a Sony ultra book, and my PC that I built, so I have enough technology that a tablet just doesn't do anything for me.
Chino, what do you mean your watch monitors your sleep? Id be interested in a smart watch if it looked nice and provided some functionality to make it worth the price.
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Chino, what do you mean your watch monitors your sleep? Id be interested in a smart watch if it looked nice and provided some functionality to make it worth the price.
It's an application called Misfit. I can set a goal for how many hours of sleep I want. The watch somehow detects that you've fallen asleep, and the accelerometer monitors your movements throughout the night and it can detect when you wake up. It graphs my sleeping time throughout the week and even goes as far as telling you exactly how much time you spent in deep sleep. I use it as a pedometer as well.
The new Pebble Time and Pebble Time Steel will have this new accessory called Smart Bands. They allow thrid party developers to make watchbands that add functionality to the watch. This helps keeps the cost of the initial watch down by not including all kinds of hardware that only a fraction of your customers want. A company could make a band with a bigger battery, a gps built in, a blood/sugar reader, etc, and then build an app around it. It's pretty brilliant.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-time-awesome-smartwatch-no-compromises/description
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Very cool, that sounds interesting and Im very curious of my sleep patterns since I work lots of odd hours and hence get poor sleep.
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Very cool, that sounds interesting and Im very curious of my sleep patterns since I work lots of odd hours and hence get poor sleep.
It's still in the infancy stages. I have a similar app on my phone that I've run at the same time as the watch. Both get similar numbers most of the time, but they can sometimes differ by as much as twenty minutes. I don't mind though. Technology has to start somewhere and I think it's cool being, for lack of a better term, a beta tester for it. You'll see this stuff improve greatly over the next five years. Right now the smart watch is kind of a novelty. I use mine all the time, but I wouldn't say my life has necessarily been improved by it. Once you start seeing legitimate health applications built into the watch, their potential is going to really shine.
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BTW, the iPad, to my knowledge, was a rather short-lived thing for Apple to make money on. I read somewhere a while ago that sales have totally collapsed. Partially because a lot of people realized that the use case just isn't really as great as everybody thought it would be.
BTW, this is what you get for $350 in the Android world:
https://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/huawei-watch/
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BTW, the iPad, to my knowledge, was a rather short-lived thing for Apple to make money on. I read somewhere a while ago that sales have totally collapsed. Partially because a lot of people realized that the use case just isn't really as great as everybody thought it would be.
BTW, this is what you get for $350 in the Android world:
https://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/huawei-watch/
That looks pretty nice, and Im an android user over IOS. As for Ipad sales, I also have to think that people who bought them arent looking to upgrade them every year or so like we do with our phones.
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I just can't understand how Apple went for the rectangular design. The first time I saw a circular smartwatch I thought "yup, that's the way to go". Rectangular watches simply look like computers on your arm, or rather, like these guys:
(https://www.watchallwatches.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/casio-calculator-watch-7.jpg)
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:lol totally had one of those as a kid
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So did I. Paid by my own pocket money!
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BTW, the iPad, to my knowledge, was a rather short-lived thing for Apple to make money on. I read somewhere a while ago that sales have totally collapsed. Partially because a lot of people realized that the use case just isn't really as great as everybody thought it would be.
BTW, this is what you get for $350 in the Android world:
https://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/huawei-watch/
The iPad was/is a huge success. People just don't need to upgrade as often as they do phone. I'm not upgrading my iPad2 until it becomes unusable.
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I had one of these
(https://www.toxel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/watchd14.jpg)
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Thought you were blob for a second there. :lol
I have an iPad mini, and I think Chino's right. iPad's were the laughing stock of the tech world when they were unveiled, now everyone uses them; they just don't get replaced as often. I can see the watches going either way to be honest. I can even see them going exactly the same was as the iPad. Why spend that much on a watch when you can use the money to get a better phone? But then in a couple years as the price goes down, more and more people will use them. We'll see.
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I had one of these transformer watches too, so I guess they were universal (I'm from Spain).
I also have an iPad 2 and not thinking about upgrading it until it stops working. When it does I will probably get an Android one, I just don't want to spend so much money again.
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In my opinion, the virtue of the Apple Watch is that it is a huge step down the path to a world that is more technologically integrated. Many of the Apple Watch use cases that Apple has demonstrated apply right now to "only at select stores" or "only at select hotels" or "only if you have this nice new system in your car or house." But as the Apple Watch becomes more popular, more and more of the world will be integrated to work with it. For example, right now it's only a few very nice hotels where you can unlock the hotel room using the Apple Watch, but if the Watch takes off, more and more hotels will invest in the technology.
Apple Pay is huge in this regard. It's huge that they put it on the iPhone, and it will be even bigger once the Apple Watch goes on sale and more infrastructure is built to work with it. Being able to pay without a card from your wrist will be a massive convenience that people will just love. And Apple Pay is PRIVATE. That is a huge selling point for Apple against Google Wallet and other competitors. Apple is among a very few tech companies that takes advanced measures to ensure that they and others do NOT collect user data, while companies like Google want as much user data as they can get their hands on. To me, and to a lot of others, that is a huge selling point in favor of Apple Pay and in favor of the Apple watch.
I probably will get an Apple Watch Sport. To me, $400 (the price for the larger of the two entry-level Sport models) is definitely worth it for the functionality that the Apple Watch brings. It's certainly a bigger step forward technologically and functionally than the iPad (though I love my iPad) and starts at a lower price, so from where I'm sitting it's really a no-brainer.
As for rectangular vs. round screen: I personally think that rectangular is better for a smartwatch. The rounded face of a traditional watch is dictated by the sweep of the hands. It makes sense for that particular category of device. But Apple's design philosophy in 2015 is not to emulate technologies, but to enhance them. A rectangular screen provides more visual real-estate in a smaller form factor and makes a lot more sense for just about any application that is not a clock face.
Edit: Also, I love how whenever Apple announces something new, there's a whole string of people who are just convinced that Apple is out to deceive people through spin and marketing in an attempt to swindle them. I don't know if it's Luddism or straight paranoia, but there's something just bizarre about assuming that a consumer electronics company that produces devices with massive customer satisfaction ratings (99%, I think it was, for the iPhone 6? That's astronomical. That's ridiculous.) is just a set of smoke-and-mirrors charlatans. Especially when the same people do not believe the same of Google and Android manufacturers, who are far less savory with regard to things like user privacy than Apple.
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Who are you and what did you do with tjanuranus?
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But what practicality does a smart watch have over a smart phone? The Apple Pay and checking into a hotel seems like something you can do with an app and isn't smart watch exclusive. To cast aside doubt as Luddism seems a bit silly considering this is really more of a lateral step as far as technology goes. I can't think of a single advantage this would have over having a smart phone.
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To me there's two use cases:
- Measuring (aka FitBit)
- Notifications
For measuring, there are far cheaper and longer-lasting options out there.
For notifications, I think for a lot of people the vibration mode of their smartphone is more than enough. In fact, lately I have configured the shit out of my Android phone to shut up way more.
And last but not least, Apple has virtually no innovative edge when compared to the multitude of existing smartwatches. The Pebble has been around for more than 2 years at this point, and there's little difference to the Apple Watch.
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Who are you and what did you do with tjanuranus?
... I'm a guy who has been around for over a year and has over 1000 posts? It's not like I'm some hobo who just showed up.
As for smartwatches.
I agree that they're not for everybody at this point. I would hardly expect the Apple Watch to be the sensation that the iPhone is, and Apple doesn't seem to expect it either. I think it will sell well but not have astronomical numbers. Of course it is likely to be more integrated further down the road. Rumborak, you're right that for many people, a smartphone is enough. The benefit of notifications on an Apple Watch is to have them and other information available "at a glance"—you can just lift your wrist and see the time and location of the next scheduled event in your calendar. Another advantage is that a smartwatch is far more hands-free than a smartphone. One of the use cases that excited me the most when I saw it is the ability to use Passbook to put boarding passes on the Apple Watch. When I'm going through security at the airport, I'm carrying a suitcase with one hand and handing the agent my ID with my other hand. I don't want to have to also be holding my iPhone. I would much rather just place my wrist on the scanner and have it scan my boarding pass from my watch. There's one valuable use case. Another is Apple Pay. Again, it isn't hard to imagine a situation where largely hands-free payment would be convenient. Several more things I could definitely see myself using it for:
- responding to brief text messages in situations where pulling out my phone would be obtrusive
- controlling the music playing from my iPhone—for example, if my iPhone is plugged into speakers across the room
- controlling my iPhone camera so that I could take a group picture that includes me in it
- any number of other small application uses in situations where pulling out my iPhone would be obtrusive: Shazam, for example, or following a particular sporting event
Of course, to say nothing of the two applications that you named, which are just two additional, highly valuable ones that are wrapped up in the same package as everything else.
As for Pebble, which I found thoroughly unimpressive: Pebble has a pretty hideous screen and I very much doubt that it has the deep level of integration with iPhone that Apple Watch does. For example, I doubt that I can put my boarding passes on a Pebble, and I don't think it has NFC. I would never even consider buying a Pebble, whereas I'm strongly considering the Apple Watch. Part of that has to do with something I think only Apple gets: a smartwatch is extremely personal, more so than a smartphone, because you wear it on your wrist. If the best smartphone in the world was ugly, but was vastly superior to all other options, I would still consider getting it. But I would never get an ugly smartwatch, because I wouldn't want to wear it. The Apple Watch is quite pretty in my opinion and is quite customizable was well.
And last but not least, Apple has virtually no innovative edge when compared to the multitude of existing smartwatches. The Pebble has been around for more than 2 years at this point, and there's little difference to the Apple Watch.
The thing with Apple, and I think this is why people either get them or don't get them at all (and a lot of the people who don't get them are very "techy" types), is that they focus on the experience. The Apple Watch doesn't need to have 15 new and spectacular things that no other smartwatch has if it is by far the best smartwatch experience for iPhone users. That's the market it's trying to hit. And absolutely nothing else compares to it in that regard. And I would dispute that claim anyway. Apple Watch has the Digital Crown and the Force Touch technologies that as far as I know no other smartwatch has. I think those will make it much more pleasant to use. And the Taptic Engine sounds like it has the potential for some pretty incredible applications. I don't think any other smartwatch has that either.
To cast aside doubt as Luddism seems a bit silly considering this is really more of a lateral step as far as technology goes.
Perhaps it's not quite Luddism, but there is definitely, especially regarding Apple, a segment of the population who does not even attempt to understand what Apple is doing or consider the possibility that a device could be useful to other people who are not them. And I notice that the response of that segment is to immediately go to a form of the tried and true "Apple is a religion" argument—saying that the whole thing is a scheme to try to pull the wool over the eyes of their helpless cult followers and, through the power of marketing, get them to buy a device that they won't actually use. It comes up every damn time.
"Apple made a tablet? Haha, it's just a big iPod Touch! Apple is just trying to cash in on its population of devoted fans!"
"Apple made a phone? No one wants a phone without a physical keyboard! The only people who will buy that thing are the mindless Apple followers!"
"Apple made a music player? That thing is way too expensive; it'll never take off except among the deluded Mac fanboys!"
Interesting where history comes down on all of those.
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This biggest issue I see is that watches, in general, are a thing that are really hit or miss with people. Using your examples, pretty much everyone has a phone, there are uses to a very portable computer, and portable music is a nice luxury. But watches? Not everyone cares to use a watch and for the most part it's a flashy accessory instead of a necessity. Perhaps Apple will find a use for it in time but I can't see a justification for the price and the prices just seem to be almost a parody of Apple products instead of an expected norm.
Also I can't also be the one that gets the impression that Apple uses the rest of the tech world as their thinktank. They're great at marketing something that already exists with their own twist but actually coming up with something innovative on their own? Not a chance.
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Who are you and what did you do with tjanuranus?
... I'm a guy who has been around for over a year and has over 1000 posts? It's not like I'm some hobo who just showed up.
Sorry, that was meant to be a joke. He was (is?) a poster here who used to frequent Apple threads and evangelize Apple in a similar manner.
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This biggest issue I see is that watches, in general, are a thing that are really hit or miss with people. Using your examples, pretty much everyone has a phone, there are uses to a very portable computer, and portable music is a nice luxury. But watches? Not everyone cares to use a watch and for the most part it's a flashy accessory instead of a necessity. Perhaps Apple will find a use for it in time but I can't see a justification for the price and the prices just seem to be almost a parody of Apple products instead of an expected norm.
Right, and that's why, as I said, no one expects the Apple Watch to be a rousing success like the iPhone. Including Apple. Apple is not counting on every iPhone user going and buying an Apple Watch. This is clearly intended to be much more of a niche product, like the Apple TV (though they're making a push for wider adoption of that).
As for the prices, I think $350 for the base model is very very reasonable. Keep in mind that the $199 price tag that you see for most luxury smartphones these days (including the base model of the current generation iPhone, the iPhone 6) is not the actual amount you pay for the phone. It's heavily subsidized through your two-year contract with your cell carrier. To buy the $199 model of the iPhone 6 straight-up, it costs $649. The base model Apple Watch is just over half the cost while packing a lot of the same components into a much smaller form factor. The current generation iPad mini starts at $399, $50 more than the base model of the Apple Watch (which, again, packs many of the same components plus some other components into a significantly smaller body).
I don't know what you're expecting. Given the pricing of Apple's most comparable products, $350 is pretty sensible.
As for the higher-priced models, what you're paying for there is luxury, which is what you would do if you were in the market for a nice watch of the traditional sort as well. The good news for people of more limited means is that every model of the Apple Watch has the same functionality. The $350 one does the same thing as the $550 one which does the same thing as the $17,000. The difference is that the $350 one comes in basically the least expensive case they made that is still durable, visually appealing and water resistant, while the $550 comes in a somewhat nice case made from stainless steel and the $17,000 is made of fucking gold.
What were you expecting the price to be? Knowing that Apple makes high-end consumer electronics, and knowing the (actual, not subsidized) prices of their most comparable products—the iPhone and the iPad, I don't see how anyone could imagine the Apple Watch costing much less than $350. And I would argue that for your $350 watch, you're getting more functionality than you get from a $399 iPad (assuming that you own an iPhone and a laptop computer).
Also I can't also be the one that gets the impression that Apple uses the rest of the tech world as their thinktank. They're great at marketing something that already exists with their own twist but actually coming up with something innovative on their own? Not a chance.
The entire tech world uses each other as their think tank. Look at what Samsung does. Samsung copies every Apple phone. Honestly, if you look at the new Samsung Galaxy S6, it is hard to even distinguish from an iPhone. Apple came out with a finger print scanner, Samsung came out with a fingerprint scanner. Apple came out with NFC payments using said scanner, Samsung did the same. Microsoft has done the same thing practically for decades: the personal computer with GUI was first made by Apple. And then Microsoft copied it to make Windows. I'm not denying, of course, that Apple has not at times copied features from Microsoft or Google, I'm simply illustrating that this is what the entire tech industry does (Samsung is just over the line with that shit, though. They copy look and feel to such a degree...).
Apple's primary skill, it is true, is in creating a good user experience. The best example of this is the iPad. Apple didn't invent the tablet. Microsoft made tablets for almost ten years before the iPad came out. But nobody bought Microsoft's tablets. Why? Because Apple advertised better and duped everyone with the mysterious hypnotic power of marketing (by the way, if it's all about marketing, why don't Apple's competitors simply hire better marketing people? Why is it only Apple who has this mystical power of marketing?)? No. Because Microsoft's Windows XP tablets created a truly terrible user experience, while the iPad created a good one. Using a Microsoft tablet from the pre-iPad days would be very frustrating on the whole, while the iPad is easy to use and it works—it creates a quality experience.
But if you look to my preceding post, I did dispute the claim that Apple has place no innovations into the Apple Watch. I named three technologies that I don't believe anyone else has included in a smartwatch yet: Digital Crown, Force Touch and Taptic Engine. Or are those just constructs of marketing that don't actually exist?
Sorry, that was meant to be a joke.
Ah, okay.
He was (is?) a poster here who used to frequent Apple threads and evangelize Apple in a similar manner.
Jesus fucking Christ, not the "Apple is a religion lol" thing again. Honestly, is it that impossible for some folks to believe that people legitimately buy Apple products because they think that those products provide a better experience than those of Apple's competitors? The whole damn religion comparison is really quite rude and dumb and doesn't reflect reality in any way. It's just a cheap way of insulting people who admire a company that you don't like.
Edit: And by the way, I'm not in here like an evangelist asking if you all have heard the Good News about Tim Cook. This is an Apple discussion thread in which people are slagging on the Apple Watch, and I'm taking an opposing position, saying, "hey, I don't think you have it quite right." It's not like I'm commanding people to prostrate themselves before the glory of premium consumer electronics and then commit mass suicide so that we can all go together to the Great Big Apple Store in the Sky.
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He was (is?) a poster here who used to frequent Apple threads and evangelize Apple in a similar manner.
Jesus fucking Christ, not the "Apple is a religion lol" thing again. Honestly, is it that impossible for some folks to believe that people legitimately buy Apple products because they think that those products provide a better experience than those of Apple's competitors? The whole damn religion comparison is really quite rude and dumb and doesn't reflect reality in any way. It's just a cheap way of insulting people who admire a company that you don't like.
Edit: And by the way, I'm not in here like an evangelist asking if you all have heard the Good News about Tim Cook. This is an Apple discussion thread in which people are slagging on the Apple Watch, and I'm taking an opposing position, saying, "hey, I don't think you have it quite right." It's not like I'm commanding people to prostrate themselves before the glory of premium consumer electronics and then commit mass suicide so that we can all go together to the Great Big Apple Store in the Sky.
I understand the word "evangelize" has a religious connotation and given the "religious" element of Apple consumers that exists, it perhaps wasn't the best word choice. You obviously feel strongly about Apple to do quite a bit of research and make several detailed posts promoting their product(s). I don't fault you for that, I own an iPhone 5 and 3rd-gen iPad that I use daily and I agree with several of your points.
Again, my apologies for any offense, it wasn't intended.
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It's quite alright. I may have overreacted, but I've really grown quite tired of the religious stuff. I have long been a user of Apple's products because I believe they are the best ones, but I have not always been (there was a time when I was a member of the anti-Apple peanut gallery). Honestly, I haven't done too much research; a lot of the information I posted is just stuff that I have on recall from years of casually following the company and watching most of the keynotes (including both of the Apple Watch ones).
Not to go down another road of this, but I would strongly dispute the idea that there's any more of a "religious" element of Apple consumers than there are of any other platform. Look at some Android or Linux forums and you will probably find a higher level of zeal (I wouldn't associate it with religion, but w/e) than you would on most Apple/Mac/iOS forums. I think almost any tech brand has its strong adherents. Even Microsoft has IT professionals who still hopelessly cling on to XP and IT professionals who will spend the next 10 years hopelessly clinging on to Windows 7 (I mock you because I love you, Microsoft :-*). But I think the vast majority of consumers of any tech brand are not strong adherents—again, I would argue with relation to Apple that the majority of iOS and Mac users are there because Apple provides the best experience for them. I just dispute the notion that the "religious" thing is unique to Apple when plenty of people like those on /r/AndroidMasterRace on reddit exist for other platforms.
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I'm on my second iPhone and my second iMac...
HOWEVER...
I don't really care about getting the latest Iphone... I didn't get my first Apple Phone til the 4S...And When i upgrade in a years time..I'm probably gonna
stick with the 5S instead of getting a 6 because I don't like the size of them; AND it will be a cheaper phone contract to get an older phone...
ALSO...
I don't care about iPads or this new iWatch. i don't need an iPad for anything. I'd sooner get a laptop.
I chose the iPhone because I liked it. I've tried Android phones and I didn't like them. Same with iMac.
I had PCs for years and as soon as I tried an iMac that was it.
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What is it you like more about the Mac over a PC?
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Almost everything. :biggrin:
But mostly the design . .
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The thing Apple is best at is making things pretty; that's for damn sure.
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...but then I never really liked PCs anyway...even before I was introduced to OSX.
I've not used a PC in a while - but my fave thing on OSX is "hiding" apps. SO it doesn't just minimize to the bottom of the screen - it hides it altogether - thus
not cluttering up your screen.
Genuinely don't know if modern PCs do that too ?
...oh and Windows 8 was fuck ugly.
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Hiding programs just seems like a potential memory clog nightmare but I've never used what you're talking about so perhaps there's abother way to keep track of what's open.
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If Windows had that functionality, I'd never use it. If I have something open, I want it in either the task bar or the system tray where I can see it.
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Yeah. I don't see the point in leaving something running if I'm not using it. Why waste the cpu?
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Agreed, I thought that was the point of minimization, to not clog your screen but still be aware of what is open. To each their own though.
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Maybe the application is being suspended in flash memory and isn't actually open. Isn't that what the iPad does when you swap back and forth between apps?
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Yeah. I don't see the point in leaving something running if I'm not using it. Why waste the cpu?
To get it off screen whilst you're not using it. I'm not hiding it because I no longer want to use it.
For example - Spotify takes a really long time to load up each time so I just hide it from my screen instead of quitting it.
It means it's not cluttering up my screen.
Or - I could move it to a different desktop - but I always forget I have that option.
Or it also means that you can still listen to music in iTunes - but not actually see it on screen. It's just less cluttered - instead of loads of windows at the
bottom of your screen.
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So is it more or less auto-hiding the task bar on a Windows machine? If I'm reading it correctly, all you are doing is minimizing it without seeing it in a toolbar?
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So is it more or less auto-hiding the task bar on a Windows machine? If I'm reading it correctly, all you are doing is minimizing it without seeing it in a toolbar?
Yes. It just hides the app altogether.
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You can achieve that with the system tray. You have the option to have a program visible permanently in the tray if you want, but by default those icons are hidden and brought up only when the little arrow icon (https://www.simplehelp.net/images/win7_tray/img01.png) is clicked. Though some programs might not be able to minimise to the system tray (and thus removed from the task bar) the vast majority can be. Offhand I can't think of a program I use that doesn't have the option, though I turn it on and off depending on how I want a specific program to behave when I minimise it.
I'm pretty sure this first started with XP.
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Almost everything. :biggrin:
But mostly the design . .
I'm in this boat too. I understand that Macs are 30-50% more expensive. But I don't feel like I'm going to break my present and past Macbook, where my PC laptop failed within 6 months. More of a lemon model on that one, but still.
I also like Apple's productivity software (formerly iWork) better. But yeah, Apple made more money off me then Lenovo or HP would of. But I'm cool with it, I like how Macs work.
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I will say, while my down button fell off rather easily, my macbook pro has been a champ. Its for work and I travel a lot with it, its taken its beating including a 7 ft drop (I almost caught it as it fell so it wasnt a flat fall, but it landed hard, I was using it on top of a ladder) and hasnt skipped a beat. My coworker's has some issues, but otherwise is pretty solid for also taking a similar beating.
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https://www.apple.com
So as I looked around the site today after reading about an iPod touch refresh, i noticed that iPods are no longer on the top toolbar. As much as I do not like iPods and iTunes, I do hope Apple is keeping them, as they fill a market. That market is getting smaller, but there still is a need IMO.
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Apple fellas, I need a bit of advice from you, hoping I don't resort to registering in an actual Apple forum to ask it.
I've had my iPad since around 2010 and it has iOS 6.1 which I've never felt the need to move away from, recently I've been getting a lot of "no, you gotta upgrade" on some apps I've been interested in but oh well I can live without them, then one of the apps I use very frequently started constantly crashing, it's an app to stream the old radio show Dragnet and I listen to it in bed, long story short I looked into ways to make it work again and it included soft and hard reset for the iPad and no use, I deleted and redownloaded the app several times and still no use, now another solution is to upgrade the iOS, which I personally don't think will solve the problem since the app used to work on 6.1.
My problem with upgrading to 8.4 is that it requires me to make space on my iPad, which is only 16 gig of capacity and I need the space for my TV shows that aren't available to stream like King of The Hill and The Simpsons, I watched them before falling asleep on weekdays and that's all the TV I get, there's never enough space for an entire season so I have to keep deleting and adding episodes every now and then, so basically I can't afford losing that much more space over an iOS upgrade that's irreversible and might not even solve the problem I have, any ideas?
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While we wait for tomorrow's conference, I thought some of you might find this read interesting.
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/04/former-apple-engineer-gives-behind-the-scenes-look-at-the-original-iphone-introduction/
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I'm really excited to use Live Photo. That seems really cool and having a picture on the lock screen will be really cool with the live photo feature.
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I think i'll be keeping my 64 GB 6 plus for another few years, heck had the iphone 4 for 4 years so I think the 6 + should last even longer
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I have a 64gb 5s and I am more than happy. The new one looks cool though
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Couple new announcements from Apple. A smaller iPad pro... Has Apple given a reason as to why they refuse to make an iPad with mouse support? That's the main reason why I haven't bought a new one yet. I've been waiting since the second generation for them to add that feature.
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I think the iPhone SE was a smart (and overdue) move by them. A (somewhat) cheap entry-level phone with killer technical specs and all the goodies you might expect from a modern iPhone. It's only lacking force touch, but as an owner of an iPhone 6S I don't use force touch that much; so I could really live without it.
Couple new announcements from Apple. A smaller iPad pro... Has Apple given a reason as to why they refuse to make an iPad with mouse support? That's the main reason why I haven't bought a new one yet. I've been waiting since the second generation for them to add that feature.
I think they're really striving into not transforming it into a personal computer. If you add mouse support, it's basically a Mac that runs iOS instead of OS X; although I agree it would be a nice addition given they're aiming at the 'professional' market with that product and people are used to work with a mouse in such markets.
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I think the iPhone SE was a smart (and overdue) move by them. A (somewhat) cheap entry-level phone with killer technical specs and all the goodies you might expect from a modern iPhone. It's only lacking force touch, but as an owner of an iPhone 6S I don't use force touch that much; so I could really live without it.
Isn't that the point of the C iphone? To be cheaper and still be an iphone.
Couple new announcements from Apple. A smaller iPad pro... Has Apple given a reason as to why they refuse to make an iPad with mouse support? That's the main reason why I haven't bought a new one yet. I've been waiting since the second generation for them to add that feature.
I think they're really striving into not transforming it into a personal computer. If you add mouse support, it's basically a Mac that runs iOS instead of OS X; although I agree it would be a nice addition given they're aiming at the 'professional' market with that product and people are used to work with a mouse in such markets.
I think you are right, Apple wants you to buy the ipad and the mac book.
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The smaller iPhone was a good move. I read that last year there were still 30,000,000 older 4" iPhones sold. Not to mention, phone companies are doing away with the 2 year contract and subsidies. Most people can't or aren't willing to shell out $600+ for a new 5" phone.
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Isn't that the point of the C iphone? To be cheaper and still be an iphone.
Kind of, but I think the approach to this phone was very different. The 5C had a very plastic feel to it, and it was basically an iPhone 5 sold in times of the iPhone 5S (which was a huge upgrade from its predecessor). The SE has the same horsepower as the flagship 6S minus the force touch, and it feels just as premium as its older brothers. Also, the introductory price of the 5C was $550, while the introductory price of the SE is $399. You get more bang for the buck, so that's why I think this was a long overdue move by Apple.
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Isn't that the point of the C iphone? To be cheaper and still be an iphone.
Kind of, but I think the approach to this phone was very different. The 5C had a very plastic feel to it, and it was basically an iPhone 5 sold in times of the iPhone 5S (which was a huge upgrade from its predecessor); and the SE has the same horsepower as the flagship 6S minus the force touch, and it feels just as premium as its older brothers. Also, the introductory price of the 5C was $550, while the introductory price of the SE is $399. You get more bang for the buck, so that's why I think this was a long overdue move by Apple.
Ah cool, Does this mean the C class is done? I also agree with the thought the smaller version is good because I know a lot of people really liked the small form factor. Also good point on the price and paying full because it's a tough pill to swallow when you pay full price out of pocket although I know verizon just bundles the cost into your bill which makes it the same as it was before when you had a contract (when you think about it, you were always paying the price of the phone) but a $400 iphone that is as good as the 6S is nice.
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Yeah, you could say this is the new C. I also expect this one to do a lot better in the market than the C.
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Yeah, you could say this is the new C. I also expect this one to do a lot better in the market than the C.
I always thought C was a bad letter to use, just makes me think Cheap
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Yeah, Apple kinda missed that back then. If you had one, you had an iPhone but it was super evident it was the cheap iPhone; and although I'm inclined to say: 'who cares if you have the expensive or the cheap iPhone' ee live in a society that kinda judges everyone based on the clothes they wear and the phones they have. :lol
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So I have a question..
I have to replace my wife's iPhone. Down at the local Sprint store, it's kind of pricey. On Amazon, I am seeing terms like Certified Refurnished and Factory Unlocked. What exactly do these mean?
My usual preference is to buy new on these things.
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Refurnished I am guessing means refurbished. So maybe it had a faulty battery, broken screen etc and was fixed to re-sell. Unlocked is free of any carrier lockdown. So you can use it on any carrier, and I'm guessing that factory unlocked means it was unlocked from the get-go. Or unlocked at least by professionals or something. My iPhone 5 for example is locked to Sprint, 6S locked to Verizon.
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I figured that was what refurbished was.
So if I buy something new, I just want to make sure it says Unlocked, right?
If I buy something new that doesn't say unlocked, then Sprint may not be able to set it up? That doesn't seem right, as in kosher.
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I figured that was what refurbished was.
So if I buy something new, I just want to make sure it says Unlocked, right?
If I buy something new that doesn't say unlocked, then Sprint may not be able to set it up? That doesn't seem right, as in kosher.
If you buy it brand new, they generally are sold by the carrier. There also is an option to buy it SIM free (unlocked), but requires paying off the phone in full. On Apple's site, you can pick which carrier you want the phone from. Or if you go to a store (Apple or otherwise), you pick the carrier. So when I got a 5, I was on Sprint and bought it from Apple.com, selecting Sprint. When I got a 6S+, I went to Costco and got it through Verizon.
If you get it refurbed and unlocked, it can be activated on a carrier that utilizes the same wireless signal. I don't know if this holds true anymore with LTE, but it used to be GSM = ATT and TMobile, and CDMA = Verizon and Sprint. So if you have an unlocked GSM phone, it will need to be on a GSM carrier.
So if you stay on Sprint, and don't want it unlocked, make sure your phone is Sprint. They lock them down to specific carriers.
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Wow, that's interesting. I had no idea. Thank you.
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If future iPhones do away with headphone jacks then i'll just not store any music on them or stick with a 5S
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If future iPhones do away with headphone jacks then i'll just not store any music on them or stick with a 5S
And in 4-6 years you'll finally cave and buy wireless headphones, just like they wanted.
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If future iPhones do away with headphone jacks then i'll just not store any music on them or stick with a 5S
And in 4-6 years you'll finally cave and buy wireless headphones, just like they wanted.
Wireless headphones are great. Bose finally released bluetooth noise cancelling head phones. I really want those to replace my wired ones, but my convincing of my boss to buy them for me has not worked yet.
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If future iPhones do away with headphone jacks then i'll just not store any music on them or stick with a 5S
And in 4-6 years you'll finally cave and buy wireless headphones, just like they wanted.
Wireless headphones are great. Bose finally released bluetooth noise cancelling head phones. I really want those to replace my wired ones, but my convincing of my boss to buy them for me has not worked yet.
A few fathers days ago I bought my dad a pair of the over-ear Bose noise cancelling headphones. They were pricy, but worth it, IMO. He lets me borrow them every time I fly and they are soooo good. Bose gets a lot of shit for not having good quality sound for what their products cost, but I don't hear it. I think their stuff sounds great. I bought me one of the Bose Bluetooth Mini Soundlinks and it rocks. The amount of sound and bass they can get out of that little thing amazes me. I use it constantly.
I also like wireless headphones, even if they lose some sound quality. When I'm out doing yardwork, having a chord dangling around and getting caught on shit is beyond annoying.
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Yea, I probably have the same ones as your father. QuietComfort15 and they are AWESOME. I think the sound is great and the noise cancelling works really well plus they aren't heavy. My only hate on them is the wire because I wear them most of the work day and often knock the wire out (it's loud in the data center and that's why my company bought them for me).
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I got him these. They might technically be considered 'on-ear' not 'over-ear'
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41Ca2KclsOL._SY300_.jpg)
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I got him these. They might technically be considered 'on-ear' not 'over-ear'
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41Ca2KclsOL._SY300_.jpg)
Ah, looks like it's probably the older version of mine since they look close to the same but I know it's not the newer models.
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Do some of the wireless headphones have a mic for talking on the phone? I've started to prefer using the headphones with a mic to actually holding the phone to my head.
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If future iPhones do away with headphone jacks then i'll just not store any music on them or stick with a 5S
And in 4-6 years you'll finally cave and buy wireless headphones, just like they wanted.
Yeah, that's the Apple effect. A controversial decision that will spur hatred in millions that, in due time, will become somewhat a staple in the industry. I can see some 'premium' Android phones ditching the headphone jack as well not long after Apple announces iPhone 7.
Also, I think the whole technological environment is moving towards a no-cables paradigm. In 10 years time, lots of the cables we use to charge stuff/listen to stuff/connect stuff will disappear.
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If future iPhones do away with headphone jacks then i'll just not store any music on them or stick with a 5S
And in 4-6 years you'll finally cave and buy wireless headphones, just like they wanted.
Yeah, that's the Apple effect. A controversial decision that will spur hatred in millions that, in due time, will become somewhat a staple in the industry. I can see some 'premium' Android phones ditching the headphone jack as well not long after Apple announces iPhone 7.
Also, I think the whole technological environment is moving towards a no-cables paradigm. In 10 years time, lots of the cables we use to charge stuff/listen to stuff/connect stuff will disappear.
Fine by me. I can't wait until I can drop my phone anywhere on my coffee table and have it charge.
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Yeah, same here. Also, I have spent some money in buying replacement cables for mi iDevices and that annoys the hell out of me (because they're not good quality cables, of course).
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I actually really like my wireless fast charger, I was surprised with how well it works
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If future iPhones do away with headphone jacks then i'll just not store any music on them or stick with a 5S
And in 4-6 years you'll finally cave and buy wireless headphones, just like they wanted.
or i'll go back to MiniDisc. . .
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If future iPhones do away with headphone jacks then i'll just not store any music on them or stick with a 5S
And in 4-6 years you'll finally cave and buy wireless headphones, just like they wanted.
or i'll go back to MiniDisc. . .
Was that a thing?
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MiniDisc rock.
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A few fathers days ago I bought my dad a pair of the over-ear Bose noise cancelling headphones. They were pricy, but worth it, IMO. He lets me borrow them every time I fly and they are soooo good. Bose gets a lot of shit for not having good quality sound for what their products cost, but I don't hear it. I think their stuff sounds great. I bought me one of the Bose Bluetooth Mini Soundlinks and it rocks. The amount of sound and bass they can get out of that little thing amazes me. I use it constantly.
I also like wireless headphones, even if they lose some sound quality. When I'm out doing yardwork, having a chord dangling around and getting caught on shit is beyond annoying.
I feel that while Bose is not worth their full cost, their product is still great. The same could be argued for this thread name sack, Disney parks and so on. Overpriced sure vs others. But that doesn't mean the product is still not solid. My dad's Wave radio had huge sound for a rather small box.
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Yeah, I have some Bose earphones and although they're not WTFAMAZING they are rock solid. A tad overpriced maybe.
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Expensive but worth every penny if you ask me. You get what you pay for which may be too much for most, but most don't need the quality that Bose provides.
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The new IPhone 7 looks pretty cool. I definitely like that they upped the storage capacity and I also really like that it has stereo speakers now. I don't plan on getting one right away, but maybe when the 7s comes out next year, I will probably look into getting a 7.
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-Bluetooth-like connectivity. What does that even mean? Do I have to buy a Beats speaker because my Bose won't be able to connect?
-No auxiliary port. If you want to use your headphones, you need an adapter for the lightning port. Can you not charge and listen to music at the same time?
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Do some of the wireless headphones have a mic for talking on the phone? I've started to prefer using the headphones with a mic to actually holding the phone to my head.
I'm also still curious to know the answer to the above.
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Looks like they are including an adapter in the box to connect current headphones to the lightning port. Its a fix I can live with, but I would have liked the headphone jack to have stayed.
And I don't know about current wireless headphones, but apple are going to sell their own "air buds" that do have a mic so you can have phone calls.
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I'm interested in the 5SE
I don't like the 6 & 7 round shape. Too slippery for me.
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-Bluetooth-like connectivity. What does that even mean? Do I have to buy a Beats speaker because my Bose won't be able to connect?
-No auxiliary port. If you want to use your headphones, you need an adapter for the lightning port. Can you not charge and listen to music at the same time?
The adapter is included with the phone purchase. My car stereo can charge and play music through the lightning cable so that part is not an issue for me. If I'm at home then no I'll have to choose which one I'm doing but then again I barely ever do both at the same time anyways.
I'm sure it still contains bluetooth connectivity, I'm guessing just for the airpods they might have some specific connectivity. I don't know.
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The iphone 7 looks great but there's no way in hell I'd pay that much just for a phone.
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Looks like they are including an adapter in the box to connect current headphones to the lightning port. Its a fix I can live with, but I would have liked the headphone jack to have stayed.
And I don't know about current wireless headphones, but apple are going to sell their own "air buds" that do have a mic so you can have phone calls.
I read that this is a play by apple to have control and proprietary over devices that use the aux port not named headphones. Such as those nice credit card swipers and other gadgets. Now you will have to buy an apple product to get those to work (not sure if the adapter works on those gadgets). It's bad for the idea of open source and inventing items based on what you have (AUX is old technology) but that is and has been the apple way for awhile. Some of my apple friends have already said they will be switching to Samsung on their next phone. I'll wait and see about that since historically, Apple has been able to get their user base to adapt. Otherwise, I'm sure the phone will be awesome and great for any iphone user looking to upgrade.
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I'm going to hold and see the phone in the store and do some comparing. I think I may be going back to Samsung.
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Good article summing up the headphones discussion around the new iPhone:
https://www.businessinsider.com/airpods-apple-iphone-7-wireless-headphones-explained-faq-2016-9
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You know, I would have bought into this if the iPhone 7 had wireless charging only. Then they could say there's no awkward connectors anymore, your would have a smooth, self-contained unit.
But this way, I don't know, it just looks like change for change's sake.
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You know, I would have bought into this if the iPhone 7 had wireless charging only. Then they could say there's no awkward connectors anymore, your would have a smooth, self-contained unit.
But this way, I don't know, it just looks like change for change's sake.
:lol but seriously, I use the wireless charging for my samsung phone and think it's pretty nice to have the charging stand on my nightstand next to bed. It works pretty well too. I always thought it was just a gimmick
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https://appleplugs.com/
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Never in 1,000,000,000e years will I get wireless in ears.
Wireless over the head phones ? Yep.. Of course.
Plus I don't like the 6 and 7 design. Prefer the feel of the chunky 5.
I've had a 5S for 3 years now with no cracks on it and it still works fine.
If the 5 SE is cheap enough on my next contract I may go for that one.
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I'll just leave this here
https://thenextweb.com/apple/2016/09/30/french-guy-apple-store-steel-ball/ (https://thenextweb.com/apple/2016/09/30/french-guy-apple-store-steel-ball/)
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So not sure where to ask this but I'll post it here and the Android thread. Anyone know why the forum looks so shitty on an Android Chrome? Not going to embed it link's here
https://i.imgur.com/mtXaTXH.png
I have two android devices and looks equally shitty on both. The screenshot above is from a ZTE Zmax 2 using Chrome on 5.1 lollipop and it looks the same on my LG 8.3" VK815 tablet marshmallow 6.0
Compare that to the chrome browser on iOS on my iPhone 6 plus, this is legible.
https://i.imgur.com/CgiHOke.jpg
Any thoughts? ideas? What do android users do for this forum?
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So they updated the macbook pro's today. They added a touch bar at the top
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I feel like the trackpad handles anything I need to do touch related. At this point, I don't see myself using it, but who knows
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A touchbar for emojis? I hope it's customizable. Not that I really care, just got a new (well same older model) macbook pro for work as my lease was up on my old one.
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A touchbar for emojis? I hope it's customizable. Not that I really care, just got a new (well same older model) macbook pro for work as my lease was up on my old one.
It changes based on what you are doing.
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
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A touchbar for emojis? I hope it's customizable. Not that I really care, just got a new (well same older model) macbook pro for work as my lease was up on my old one.
It changes based on what you are doing.
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
I see virtually no added benefit of that outside of an excuse for Apple to charge even more for an already overpriced device.
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A touchbar for emojis? I hope it's customizable. Not that I really care, just got a new (well same older model) macbook pro for work as my lease was up on my old one.
It changes based on what you are doing.
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
I see virtually no added benefit of that outside of an excuse for Apple to charge even more for an already overpriced device.
#StandardAppleCriticismOfVirtuallyEveryNewAppleProductFeaturesSinceTheBeginningOfTime
Yeah, Apple products are kinda overpriced, but you get what you pay for. I, personally, think the addition of that touch bar is quite nice. For casual use it's probably not gonna make much of a difference, but with the use of professional applications I can see the bar enhancing the workflow.
In terms of pricing, doesn't it cost the same as the last generation Retina?
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They also eliminated damn near every port on the device. All it has is Thunderbolt 3, aka USB-C (2 ports on the lesser models, 4 on the pricier ones - gone is the MagSafe adapter, the computer charges over USB-C now). They've effectively forced all consumers, even iPhone 7 users, to purchase adapters to keep their devices useful with the new MacBooks. There is no lightning connector, no USB 3.0 connector, no ethernet connector, and they've eliminated the SD card slot. BGR wrote an article yesterday that said you'd need to spend roughly $260 extra to purchase the necessary adapters required to restore USB, CD, Ethernet, Thunderbolt 2, and Lightning functionality to the laptop.
Out of the box, there is no way to connect a brand new iPhone 7 to a brand new MacBook. Even the Lightning headphones are useless with the new laptops.
That much said, I am in the market for a new MacBook, and given that within the next few weeks I'll be receiving a new Pixel XL, which uses USB-C, I personally wouldn't be tethered to the old ports (with the exception of portable flash drives, really) so it wouldn't kill me. I just find it fascinating that Apple deems it so necessary to "kill off" far from outdated technology. It isn't as if USB 3.0, ethernet, or SD cards are on the way out; they just want to grab as much in licensing fees and extra hardware sales as they can. I do find it somewhat silly that their two flagship devices can't integrate out of the box, though.
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A touchbar for emojis? I hope it's customizable. Not that I really care, just got a new (well same older model) macbook pro for work as my lease was up on my old one.
It changes based on what you are doing.
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
I see virtually no added benefit of that outside of an excuse for Apple to charge even more for an already overpriced device.
#StandardAppleCriticismOfVirtuallyEveryNewAppleProductFeaturesSinceTheBeginningOfTime
Yeah, Apple products are kinda overpriced, but you get what you pay for. I, personally, think the addition of that touch bar is quite nice. For casual use it's probably not gonna make much of a difference, but with the use of professional applications I can see the bar enhancing the workflow.
In terms of pricing, doesn't it cost the same as the last generation Retina?
The old retna without the touchbar was $1299. The new one without the touchbar is $1499. The new one with the touchbar is $1799 (https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/). That's insane for a 13" device. I'm genuinely asking this.. from a professional application standpoint and "enhancing the workflow", what can this touchbar do that couldn't have been done to the same standard and arguably faster with a mouse and keyboard?
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I think the touchbar I would need to see and experience with use on the laptop before I say if I'd like it or not. It seems like a feature thats not necessary, but in real life application, maybe it is useful.
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This article is an interesting take from the pint of view of creative pros and developers: https://bgr.com/2016/10/28/macbook-pro-2016-specs-creative-professionals-developers/
It has been speculated for a while now that Apple would be moving away from the computing space and aligning more with mobile-only. While it might be more lucrative, it will alienate what has been a very loyal, and previously necessary, user base that almost single-handedly kept the company afloat in pre-iPhone history.
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The old retna without the touchbar was $1299. The new one without the touchbar is $1499. The new one with the touchbar is $1799 (https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/). That's insane for a 13" device. I'm genuinely asking this.. from a professional application standpoint and "enhancing the workflow", what can this touchbar do that couldn't have been done to the same standard and arguably faster with a mouse and keyboard?
I think the idea is that if you open up Photoshop, the touchbar automatically shifts to frequently used Photoshop tools that you can touch to activate without really moving your hands from the keyboard, or if you open up InDesign, the touchbar does likewise for that program, etc...etc...
Depending on how it actually functions, it could be useful because it would essentially give you quick access to different options depending on the program. As per the usual with Apple, it's more about the interaction with the device, which I can't speak to because obviously I haven't tried this yet.
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The old retna without the touchbar was $1299. The new one without the touchbar is $1499. The new one with the touchbar is $1799 (https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/). That's insane for a 13" device. I'm genuinely asking this.. from a professional application standpoint and "enhancing the workflow", what can this touchbar do that couldn't have been done to the same standard and arguably faster with a mouse and keyboard?
I think the idea is that if you open up Photoshop, the touchbar automatically shifts to frequently used Photoshop tools that you can touch to activate without really moving your hands from the keyboard, or if you open up InDesign, the touchbar does likewise for that program, etc...etc...
But you can macro that can't you? Now you have to hover your hand over a touch strip with no tactical feedback, find the tool you want and hope you press the right one, just to do what you've been able to do in a split second in photoshop for as long as I can remember.
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The old retna without the touchbar was $1299. The new one without the touchbar is $1499. The new one with the touchbar is $1799 (https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/). That's insane for a 13" device. I'm genuinely asking this.. from a professional application standpoint and "enhancing the workflow", what can this touchbar do that couldn't have been done to the same standard and arguably faster with a mouse and keyboard?
I think the idea is that if you open up Photoshop, the touchbar automatically shifts to frequently used Photoshop tools that you can touch to activate without really moving your hands from the keyboard, or if you open up InDesign, the touchbar does likewise for that program, etc...etc...
But you can macro that can't you? Now you have to hover your hand over a touch strip with no tactical feedback, find the tool you want and hope you press the right one, just to do what you've been able to do in a split second in photoshop for as long as I can remember.
Yup, I'm not sure it'll make the user interaction better at all. I'm just saying I'm guessing they clearly think that it will.
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The old retna without the touchbar was $1299. The new one without the touchbar is $1499. The new one with the touchbar is $1799 (https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/). That's insane for a 13" device. I'm genuinely asking this.. from a professional application standpoint and "enhancing the workflow", what can this touchbar do that couldn't have been done to the same standard and arguably faster with a mouse and keyboard?
I think the idea is that if you open up Photoshop, the touchbar automatically shifts to frequently used Photoshop tools that you can touch to activate without really moving your hands from the keyboard, or if you open up InDesign, the touchbar does likewise for that program, etc...etc...
But you can macro that can't you? Now you have to hover your hand over a touch strip with no tactical feedback, find the tool you want and hope you press the right one, just to do what you've been able to do in a split second in photoshop for as long as I can remember.
Photoshop is only one example. Maybe there are better examples? I'm not sure, I think it's questionable as to how useful this is vs. how cool it is. It's definitely cool.
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The old retna without the touchbar was $1299. The new one without the touchbar is $1499. The new one with the touchbar is $1799 (https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/). That's insane for a 13" device. I'm genuinely asking this.. from a professional application standpoint and "enhancing the workflow", what can this touchbar do that couldn't have been done to the same standard and arguably faster with a mouse and keyboard?
I think the idea is that if you open up Photoshop, the touchbar automatically shifts to frequently used Photoshop tools that you can touch to activate without really moving your hands from the keyboard, or if you open up InDesign, the touchbar does likewise for that program, etc...etc...
But you can macro that can't you? Now you have to hover your hand over a touch strip with no tactical feedback, find the tool you want and hope you press the right one, just to do what you've been able to do in a split second in photoshop for as long as I can remember.
Photoshop is only one example. Maybe there are better examples? I'm not sure, I think it's questionable as to how useful this is vs. how cool it is. It's definitely cool.
What would be really cool would be some kind of eye tracking/gesture to select all of those customizable tools rather than touch configuration. Instead of having the touch strip, just have gesture strip display above or below the main screen, look at the item you want, and right or left eye blink to select it. Your fingers would never have to leave the keys or mouse.
I still don't understand how Apple hasn't released an iPad with a full blown Mac operating system on it. The surface is doing really well, and with the amount of artists that use Mac products, you'd think that monster iPad would be perfect for that.
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I like the idea of the touchbar actually, but I don't like that it replaces the function keys. As far as enhancing workflow or whatever goes, keyboard shortcuts are important, and without a row of function keys someone using the new Mac would have to constantly switch between using the bar's additional functionality over having it simply display the function key shortcuts. Probably not difficult to do, but I imagine it would get tiresome.
I think it would have been a better idea to simply add the touchbar above the function keys, but Apple seems to be making a habit of taking something out of every new device they design these days.
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Of course they announce the new MacBook Pro a month AFTER i decided to finance a 2013 MacBook Pro when my 2009 MacBook Pro died :lol
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Just bought a MacBook Pro with the touchbar as a birthday present to myself. Only have spent a few hours with it so far, but I'm liking it so far. I don't really do much on my laptop except web browsing, writing, and watching YouTube-- so just day to day activities. But having the touchbar is nice for videos on YouTube for fast forwarding through videos. Even as I'm typing this, the touchbar keeps suggesting the next word or acts as a spellcheck. It's a cool feature that will only get better as more developers take it on.
The keyboard is taking a bit to get used to. The fact that they are so flat against the surface is weird to me, but I like the way it sounds--they have that mechanical clacking sound to them.
The other thing that is a huge upgrade for me is the speakers. They sound surprisingly good, something I never really liked on my 2011 MacBook Pro. Overall for me, going from a 2011 MacBook Pro to this is really cool and I feel like I've been missing out. I'm looking forward to playing around with it more.
Oh, and the Touch ID login is really cool too!
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I got to be honest when I say I think it's crazy to spend so much on a laptop for your usage. However, I love my macbook pro (work provided) so I guess I get it. I was interested to see how people felt about the touchbar though, cool to see that it works will with youtube.
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Yeah, I can understand that. I just have always liked the MacBook Pro and didn't feel like going with the Air and was intrigued by the TouchBar. Works well with YouTube, like I said and in iTunes. I've heard people like using it with Final Cut, so I'll check it later.
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Did anyone else watch Apple's event on the 12? Thoughts, opinions on iPhone 8 and iPhone 10?
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I still have an Iphone 5s 64gb. Still running just fine and I don't plan on upgrading any time soon. I wasn't all that blown away by the 8
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I'm going to grab the iPhone X, it's time for an upgrade
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I work in one of the busiest AT&T stores in the state. We have all employees scheduled to work from open to close.
We've been open half an hour and have had two customers.
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^People (like myself) are waiting for the X.
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I’ll also just preorder it, I don’t need it day one.
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^People (like myself) are waiting for the X.
I bet we'll be slow that day, too.
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^People (like myself) are waiting for the X.
I bet we'll be slow that day, too.
Well that would be good, right?
The other variable to keep in mind is that a lot of people have migrated over to the iPhone Upgrade Program in recent years, so rather than getting a new phone the day it comes out, I'll get it in like December at some point when I'm eligible via the program.
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Verizon had their pre-order page for the iPhone X open at about 1:55, so I was able to snag one pretty quick. Mine will be in my hands on November 3rd. Looking forward to it! At least I don't have to wait until next Spring
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Verizon had their pre-order page for the iPhone X open at about 1:55, so I was able to snag one pretty quick. Mine will be in my hands on November 3rd. Looking forward to it! At least I don't have to wait until next Spring
Sweet! I'm not due for an upgrade on my iPhone Upgrade Program till the spring anyway, so I'll be getting mine then.
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Order the x for myself and my gf, should be here sometime in November :)
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Order the x for myself and my gf, should be here sometime in November :)
I coulda sworn you were an Android guy.
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I was for a long time until I got a shitty run of android phones starting with the Note. I then switched over to Apple. I like the iPhone a lot but there are something I don't care for.
I'm thinking of going back to Android next year when we get new corporate phones which will be iPhones.
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Apple users; Is this a good deal?
https://www.amazon.com/Apple-i5-4570S-Quad-Core-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B06XRKZM25/ref=gbps_img_s-3_e761_f24de6c3?smid=A1KWJVS57NX03I&pf_rd_p=9de28e7a-2a50-4581-8452-0dd59381e761&pf_rd_s=slot-3&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=gb_main&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=WDV9WEX1S5QKMSKNGX3H
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I don't know much about the actual computer Brian.....but in case you were nervous about the 'certified refurbished' part of it I can tell you that our kiddos 'big' Christmas gift last Christmas was personal iPad Mini's. We purchased them 'certified refurbished' due to the savings involved and the ipads have functioned flawlessly. Could never tell they've been refurbished.
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Good to know. Thanks :tup
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Does anyone out there own the iPhone X, 256 gb version?
I ask, because I am considering switching from Android over to iPhone, so that I can incorporate my iTunes library with my phone. I am an old iPod classic user, who loves traveling with most, if not all, of my library. But my modified classic iPod has died, and I am using a backup 80 gb one in the car.
I was considering potentially going to the iPhone X, so I can put at least my 80 gb partial library on the phone, and then have my phone and music as one device. Anyone here using that 256 gb version, and if so, how is it?
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Does anyone out there own the iPhone X, 256 gb version?
I ask, because I am considering switching from Android over to iPhone, so that I can incorporate my iTunes library with my phone. I am an old iPod classic user, who loves traveling with most, if not all, of my library. But my modified classic iPod has died, and I am using a backup 80 gb one in the car.
I was considering potentially going to the iPhone X, so I can put at least my 80 gb partial library on the phone, and then have my phone and music as one device. Anyone here using that 256 gb version, and if so, how is it?
Why not convert all of your iTunes files and put them on an android device?
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Does anyone out there own the iPhone X, 256 gb version?
I ask, because I am considering switching from Android over to iPhone, so that I can incorporate my iTunes library with my phone. I am an old iPod classic user, who loves traveling with most, if not all, of my library. But my modified classic iPod has died, and I am using a backup 80 gb one in the car.
I was considering potentially going to the iPhone X, so I can put at least my 80 gb partial library on the phone, and then have my phone and music as one device. Anyone here using that 256 gb version, and if so, how is it?
Why not convert all of your iTunes files and put them on an android device?
The thing is, I rip everything at 256 kbps mp3s, so they are ready already. The problem is, the interface. Nothing is as good as the iTunes interface.
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I don't have one, I have an iPhone 7 Plus 256gb and I moved all the stuff on my ipod over to my phone, it was a great decision to prevent carrying two devices.
My gf has an iPhone X 256 and it's a great device, had a bit of a rough launch but I love it and I plan on getting one myself.
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Does anyone out there own the iPhone X, 256 gb version?
I ask, because I am considering switching from Android over to iPhone, so that I can incorporate my iTunes library with my phone. I am an old iPod classic user, who loves traveling with most, if not all, of my library. But my modified classic iPod has died, and I am using a backup 80 gb one in the car.
I was considering potentially going to the iPhone X, so I can put at least my 80 gb partial library on the phone, and then have my phone and music as one device. Anyone here using that 256 gb version, and if so, how is it?
Why not convert all of your iTunes files and put them on an android device?
The thing is, I rip everything at 256 kbps mp3s, so they are ready already. The problem is, the interface. Nothing is as good as the iTunes interface.
wut I tunes has my most hated interface. Nothing as easy as drag and drop and just works like my android and using my home library with it. I just put it all on a 128GB micro sd card. Speaking of, I just bought a bogo free offer for the S9. Anyway, I guess I'll see my way out as I am not trying to start an apple vs samsung war.
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Nothing is as good as the iTunes interface.
WOW. I never thought I'd hear someone using an Android phone say that. I've been using an iphone since 2010 and have hated that piece of crap software since the day it was invented. This year once my iphone 6 plus dies I'm switching to Anrdoid and not looking back.
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I always thought iTunes had a fine interface, but it ran slow as hell back in 2008. I haven't really used it since though.
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One thing I enjoyed about iTunes was making smart playlists.
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I'm an Apple guy, so I'm probably biased, but I love the iTunes interface.
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Also important to note iTunes runs like crap on Windows.
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I use an android music player on my phone and have my full collection on a 256 gb micro sd card. Works really well for me.
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To explain, I've always been an Android phone guy.
But I absolutely loved my modded iPod, which had 256 gb, and my entire collection. I love that iTunes brings up the art, has everything organized, etc., and then when I plug my iPod into the car, it brings up everything, including the art.
I am looking for a way to do all that. My thought was the iPhone X, 256 gb version. But do you all suggest something else that will do all that? If so, what device, what program on the laptop?
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To explain, I've always been an Android phone guy.
But I absolutely loved my modded iPod, which had 256 gb, and my entire collection. I love that iTunes brings up the art, has everything organized, etc., and then when I plug my iPod into the car, it brings up everything, including the art.
I am looking for a way to do all that. My thought was the iPhone X, 256 gb version. But do you all suggest something else that will do all that? If so, what device, what program on the laptop?
I'm with you, I'm dreading the day my iPod Classic dies...
The iPhone X, 256 GB would definitely do it, as long as you still have enough storage space left for other phone essential stuff.
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To explain, I've always been an Android phone guy.
But I absolutely loved my modded iPod, which had 256 gb, and my entire collection. I love that iTunes brings up the art, has everything organized, etc., and then when I plug my iPod into the car, it brings up everything, including the art.
I am looking for a way to do all that. My thought was the iPhone X, 256 gb version. But do you all suggest something else that will do all that? If so, what device, what program on the laptop?
I'm with you, I'm dreading the day my iPod Classic dies...
The iPhone X, 256 GB would definitely do it, as long as you still have enough storage space left for other phone essential stuff.
That was my thought. My iTunes has 2,075 albums and 197 GB, so I'm pushing it. Because I am sure the other stuff on the actual phone will take up a lot of space. But yeah, I am thinking about pulling the trigger on it. I love my Samsung Note 4, and it runs great, but getting everything on one device would be good.
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That was my thought. My iTunes has 2,075 albums and 197 GB, so I'm pushing it. Because I am sure the other stuff on the actual phone will take up a lot of space. But yeah, I am thinking about pulling the trigger on it. I love my Samsung Note 4, and it runs great, but getting everything on one device would be good.
You should be good. If you stay somewhat minimal with other stuff on your phone, you should have plenty of room. I'd assuming leaving 25 to 30 GB for other stuff (OS, built in apps, other standard apps you'll want to have).
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Apple folks, quick question: I wanna get my wife Bluetooth ear buds for her iPhone 8, any recommendations? I thought it was gonna be a straight forward only-one-product-is-compatible deal but it seems like there's a lot of options.
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Apple folks, quick question: I wanna get my wife Bluetooth ear buds for her iPhone 8, any recommendations? I thought it was gonna be a straight forward only-one-product-is-compatible deal but it seems like there's a lot of options.
Get her the earbuds, those are pretty cool
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I was looking at the Apple ones, but I was hoping you guys may suggest something that I don't have to sell my kidney to buy.