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Title: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on November 23, 2009, 06:33:31 AM
We're still not sure how we're going to allocate songs to people, but to get a jump on things, if you're interested in writing for the project, sign up here.

If you don't know what the project is, we're trying to take a portion of DT's best songs based on the forum's ratings and write about each of them. Then we're going to post them on RYM.

For example: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/atease_top_100_r_e_m__songs

EDIT: Deadline is Sunday, December 6th
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: tri.ad on November 23, 2009, 06:45:14 AM
tri.ad reporting in, sir.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 23, 2009, 06:48:34 AM
I'm in. I enjoy expressing why I like songs, and there are several songs I feel strongly for that I doubt many others here will care as much about.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: ReaPsTA on November 23, 2009, 06:52:04 AM
Right here.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: ZKX-2099 on November 23, 2009, 06:56:07 AM
Not sure what I'm signing up for... but ok...
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: robwebster on November 23, 2009, 06:58:26 AM
Bow chicka wah wah.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on November 23, 2009, 07:01:44 AM
PLM Standing by
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Nick on November 23, 2009, 07:38:30 AM
You know I'm in to help. :D
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: cthrubuoy on November 23, 2009, 07:41:06 AM
o/
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: MykeHavoc on November 23, 2009, 09:14:41 AM
*raises hand*
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: ariich on November 23, 2009, 10:27:30 AM
*raises everything*

By the way, I merged the other thread into the main one, as we don't really need three threads about this. :lol
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 23, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
I'm in, and I want Eve, if nothing else (although I will gladly take something else as well, or instead, if Eve isn't highly ranked enough to make the cut).
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: ddtonfire on November 23, 2009, 05:10:53 PM
I will.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on November 26, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
Here's a bump.

I know some people who said they were interested but haven't signed up. Please do so ASAP!
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Darkes7 on November 26, 2009, 04:56:05 PM
I think you've figured out already I love writing longer posts concerning my love/hate/indifference for songs or albums, right? :D

I'm definitely in.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: skydivingninja on November 26, 2009, 04:57:18 PM
Red 5 standing by!
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 26, 2009, 05:20:33 PM
I'll do a couple.

zomg, we should start a Google Wave about it.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: emindead on November 26, 2009, 05:59:26 PM
ZOMG! I'm in.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Rafael Guerra on November 26, 2009, 06:01:08 PM
Not sure what it is, but if the task is select and write, I´m IN!
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: GuineaPig on November 26, 2009, 06:03:53 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Ultimetalhead on November 26, 2009, 10:52:56 PM
 :hat
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Amoniz on November 27, 2009, 02:43:17 AM
It'd be cool.

I'm IN
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Kartmaze on November 27, 2009, 05:09:12 PM
If you're short on people/song ratio, i can probably contribute.
Only if you guys let a DTF-noob like me join in on something like this, of course... I won't get grumpy if you think that these blurbs shall be written by more experienced members. I understand it too, if you want this to represent this forum in a proper fashion.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: setrataeso on November 27, 2009, 08:16:52 PM
Oh didnt realize there was a separate thread for this.

I'm in for sure.

I just request The Great Debate, sir.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: robwebster on November 27, 2009, 08:35:33 PM
While we're suggesting songs... I'd deliberately injure myself if it were my only song, but I reckon I could do You Not Me justice.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: kirbywelch92 on November 27, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
I'm certainly up for it, I'll take a mid-40 song that no one wants, but I'm definitely interested.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: robwebster on November 27, 2009, 08:55:34 PM
I'm certainly up for it, I'll take a mid-40 song that no one wants, but I'm definitely interested.
Yeah, I'm up for one of these too.

I tend to quite like the toys that the other kids don't want (ugh, just TYPING that gave me diabetes and felt massively condescending, but it reminded me of the Raggydolls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI9rXx88YsA) so I'm keeping it even though it makes me sound like a complete twunt), so I'd rather do one of them than hog something that the vast majority of people would be up for.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 27, 2009, 09:08:05 PM
I'd be happy to take anything out of CM/TDEN/SDOIT/ANTR. I seem to appreciate these ones more than most. For anything else there are probably others who have a much better chance of doing the songs justice.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: orcus116 on November 27, 2009, 09:11:51 PM
Pick me a good one.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: ariich on November 28, 2009, 03:27:59 AM
While we're suggesting songs... I'd deliberately injure myself if it were my only song, but I reckon I could do You Not Me justice.
We'll only be writing blurbs for the top however many (40 maybe?), so no need to worry about YNM :lol
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 28, 2009, 03:52:11 AM
While we're suggesting songs... I'd deliberately injure myself if it were my only song, but I reckon I could do You Not Me justice.
We'll only be writing blurbs for the top however many (40 maybe?), so no need to worry about YNM :lol


Whoa, whoa.............


You Not Me isn't in the top 40? ??? I'd think it was at least top 10
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: ariich on November 28, 2009, 04:09:11 AM
Oh yeah, sorry, it's number 7, right behind Prophets of War.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 28, 2009, 04:50:27 AM
Oh yeah, sorry, it's number 7, right behind Prophets of War.
lol I thought this was the Top 10 Great Songs, not the Top 10 Examples of Nick
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: setrataeso on November 28, 2009, 01:25:58 PM
While we're suggesting songs... I'd deliberately injure myself if it were my only song, but I reckon I could do You Not Me justice.
We'll only be writing blurbs for the top however many (40 maybe?), so no need to worry about YNM :lol

Really?
I thought we would do all of them. I mean REM had the top 100, and DT doesn't even have that many. Would it really be that hard to do all of them?
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on November 28, 2009, 01:44:58 PM
The REM example only wrote for the top 50.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Jamesman42 on November 28, 2009, 01:49:01 PM
Metropolis right here!
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: skydivingninja on November 28, 2009, 02:57:27 PM
Are we requesting songs, or will they be assigned at random and we'll hand them back if we can't say something good about them?  If we're asking for songs, I'd like to request at least Home and These Walls.  Home because it was my first experience with really heavy music that I enjoyed, and These Walls out of sentimental value.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: ariich on November 28, 2009, 02:59:48 PM
The REM example only wrote for the top 50.
This.

They did a top 100, and wrote blurbs for the top 50. We're doing a full ranking for a start, including all the least liked songs, so it makes sense to cut it down to only the however-many most-liked.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: setrataeso on November 28, 2009, 07:13:43 PM
The REM example only wrote for the top 50.
This.

They did a top 100, and wrote blurbs for the top 50. We're doing a full ranking for a start, including all the least liked songs, so it makes sense to cut it down to only the however-many most-liked.

Whoops, missed the "bottom 50 part".
Right, well, then top 50 works for me.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: Genowyn on November 28, 2009, 07:28:35 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on December 03, 2009, 10:53:37 AM
Alright boys. Here's the list so far. Let me know if I missed you. We have 27 people so far.

TheOutlawXanadu
tri.ad
BlobVanDam
ReaPsTA
ZKX-2099
robwebster
PlaysLikeMyung
Nick
cthrubuoy
MykeHavoc
Ariich
hefdaddy42
ddtonfire
Darkes7
skydivingninja
Scurvy!Dreams
emindead
Rafael Guerra
GuineaPig
Ultimetalhead
Amoniz
kirbywelch92
orcus116
Jamesman
setrataeso
Genowyn
Marvellous G
KevShmev

To get this rolling, I'm going to set the deadline for Sunday.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Marvellous G on December 03, 2009, 10:59:16 AM
I'd still be up for some less popular ones.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2009, 11:53:50 AM
Cool, I should have the final rankings done before then, so we can start delegating them out!
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: setrataeso on December 03, 2009, 12:05:50 PM
How should the descriptions go?
Are we taking personal opinion into the mix or just basically breaking it down?
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2009, 12:43:08 PM
Pretty much personal opinion, but descriptive, and about what makes the song good. As in not to say "I like the song", but describe the songs plus points.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Nick on December 03, 2009, 12:53:42 PM
I think it would be smart to give some less popular choices to those people who really like the song.

For example, Under a Glass Moon will make the list most likely, but it's not exactly a fan favorite, so give it to someone who really loves the song. That way while the list is a group consensus the descriptions of all the songs will be positive and helpful.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 03, 2009, 01:04:45 PM
Yeah we're thinking of making sure whoever writes about the song rated it at least a 9 if possible. Obviously we may not be able to do that for every single song, but we'll give it a try!
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on December 03, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
How should the descriptions go?
Are we taking personal opinion into the mix or just basically breaking it down?

The Dark Eternal Night is, according to the DTF, the most controversial song in the Dream Theater catalog, with a standard deviation of 2.491 from the mean. It's probably no coincidence the song is also one of their heaviest, featuring distorted vocals from James LaBrie and an instrumental breakdown that pays homage to classic horror films. However, the main draw of the composition is its chorus, which is undoubtedly one of the hookiest in the band's discography, etc.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Dream Team on December 03, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
Yeah we're thinking of making sure whoever writes about the song rated it at least a 9 if possible. Obviously we may not be able to do that for every single song, but we'll give it a try!

In the other thread I listed UAGM as my 3rd favorite DT song, so I'll take a crack at it if that's OK . . .

Edit: Whoops! Quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote Nick.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: GuineaPig on December 03, 2009, 06:05:51 PM
How should the descriptions go?
Are we taking personal opinion into the mix or just basically breaking it down?

The Dark Eternal Night is, according to the DTF, the most controversial song in the Dream Theater catalog, with a standard deviation of 2.491 from the mean. It's probably no coincidence the song is also one of their heaviest, featuring distorted vocals from James LaBrie and an instrumental breakdown that pays homage to classic horror films. However, the main draw of the composition is its chorus, which is undoubtedly one of the hookiest in the band's discography, etc.
Now we just need to get census data on each DTF member and really break the stats down.
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Darkes7 on December 03, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
As for song requests... I have only one - Home. I can also take anything else, I'd be especially happy with anything SFAM or SC (and I guess I'd better stay away from I&W because it wouldn't really reflect the common DTF opinion, except Wait for Sleep maybe).
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 05, 2009, 03:20:30 PM
These are due tomorrow - have assignments been made? 
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 05, 2009, 03:35:56 PM
These are due tomorrow - have assignments been made? 
I'm pretty sure TOX meant sign-up deadline is tomorrow, rather than submitting reviews :lol
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 05, 2009, 03:46:05 PM
These are due tomorrow - have assignments been made? 
I'm pretty sure TOX meant sign-up deadline is tomorrow, rather than submitting reviews :lol
Whew.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on December 07, 2009, 07:30:34 AM
I'm all like, eager to do something :metal
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: robwebster on December 07, 2009, 08:56:39 AM
Yeah, how are we gonna do this?

It would make sense if it had something to do with our ratings in the other thread.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on December 12, 2009, 02:45:47 PM
Alright. It looks like we're going to give people their pick of songs based on post count. And we're going to do a Top 40.

Does anyone have a problem with that method or the number of songs we're doing?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Marvellous G on December 12, 2009, 03:04:16 PM
Although that means I'm pretty low in choice order it's a fair enough method.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 12, 2009, 06:39:57 PM
We should do the Top 43.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: setrataeso on December 12, 2009, 06:45:05 PM
Fair enough. I just hope I get TGD...
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on December 12, 2009, 06:48:40 PM
Alright. It looks like we're going to give people their pick of songs based on post count. And we're going to do a Top 40.

Does anyone have a problem with that method or the number of songs we're doing?

Nope.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: skydivingninja on December 12, 2009, 10:35:41 PM
No problems here, but if everyone with higher post counts than me wants to save Home for me...that'd be greatly appreciated.  Because it was my first real introduction to heavy metal beyond the stereotype I associated with the genre I think I could write a good review of it.  But if someone feels really strongly about it with a higher post count thats cool too.  I'd be able to find something positive to say about most of the top 40 (or 43 if Hef gets his way :) )
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ddtonfire on December 12, 2009, 11:02:55 PM
::Goes and posts in every thread in order to raise post count and choose earlier::

Or, to prevent a plethora of worthless post-whoring, just save Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence for me  :D
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on December 12, 2009, 11:06:15 PM
I think I could write a lot about any DT song, so I guess I'll just pick randomly when my turn comes around. I'm getting excited.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Darkes7 on December 13, 2009, 05:09:06 AM
Ok, I'm fine with it. I think I can write about anything, except maybe most I&W songs (let's just say I'm not the best representation of DTF opinion :lol). I think I'll do fine with anything else. Although Home, Voices or Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence would be very appreciated.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Marvellous G on December 13, 2009, 05:52:37 AM
I'm hoping for Misunderstood...
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: robwebster on December 13, 2009, 08:55:29 AM
Alright. It looks like we're going to give people their pick of songs based on post count. And we're going to do a Top 40.

Does anyone have a problem with that method or the number of songs we're doing?
Nah, go for it! Time for people to start shotgunning songs, I guess. Post our names in order of post count?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on December 13, 2009, 10:59:10 AM
This is going to make things much less organized for me, but since you guys seem giddy I'm going to let it happen anyway...

Here's the draft order I found very quickly. Please let me know if you see mistakes.

1. BlobVanDam
2. hefdaddy42
3. emindead
4. Nick
5. ariich
6. ReaPsTA
7. tri.ad
8. PlaysLikeMyung
9. TheOutlawXanadu
10. skydivingninja
11. orcus116
12. Genowyn
13. Ultimetalhead
14. Scurvy!Dreams
15. KevShmev
16. setrataeso
17. Darkes7
18. ddtonfire
19. GuineaPig
20. cthrubuoy
21. robwebster
22. Amoniz
23. Rafael Guerra
24. Jamesman
25. Marvellous G
26. kirbywelch92
27. MykeHavoc
28. ZKX-2099

Just send me one song you want, and I'll work out if there's a conflict.

Here's the top 40 songs.

1. Octavarium: 9.623
2. A Change of Seasons: 9.416
3. Metropolis Pt 1: 9.273
4. The Glass Prison: 9.150
5. The Count of Tuscany: 9.082
6. Trial of Tears: 9.077
7. Learning to Live: 9.075
8. In the Name of God: 8.993
9. Voices: 8.917
10. Take the Time: 8.835
11. Lines in the Sand: 8.781
12. Home: 8.773
13. Fatal Tragedy: 8.583
14. Blind Faith: 8.541
15. A Nightmare to Remember: 8.472
16. Finally Free: 8.444
17. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 8.417
18. Under a Glass Moon: 8.363
19. Overture 1928: 8.321
20. In The Presence of Enemies: 8.239
21. The Spirit Carries On: 8.222
22. Disappear: 8.222
23. The Mirror: 8.219
24. The Root of All Evil: 8.201
25. Hell's Kitchen: 8.185
26. Wait for Sleep: 8.130
27. Strange déjà vu: 8.097
28. Pull Me Under: 8.095
29. The Shattered Fortress: 8.095
30. Erotomania: 8.089
31. Raise the Knife: 8.027
32. Surrounded: 8.020
33. Scarred: 8.006
34. Stream of Consciousness: 7.881
35. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream: 7.805
36. Space Dye-Vest: 7.798
37. One Last Time: 7.732
38. Misunderstood: 7.705
39. 6:00: 7.636
40. The Great Debate: 7.618

Why are we only doing the top 40? I have no reasonable explanation. So again, if anyone has a better suggestion for how many we should do, please let me know.

Songs Taken:

1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - BlobVanDam
2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream - hefdaddy42
3. Learning to Live - emindead
4. Octavarium - Nick
5. In the Name of God - ariich
6. Scarred - ReaPsTA
7. The Count of Tuscany - tri.ad
8. Trial of Tears - PlaysLikeMyung
9. Metropolis Pt. 1 - TheOutlawXanadu
10. Home - skydivingninja
11. Take the Time - orcus116
12. Voices - Genowyn
13. The Glass Prison - Ultimetalhead
14. A Change of Seasons - Scurvy!Dreams
15. Space-Dye Vest - KevShmev
16. The Great Debate - setrataeso
17. Finally Free - Darkes7
18. Under a Glass Moon - ddtonfire
19. One Last Time - GuineaPig
20. The Mirror - cthrubuoy
21. The Root of All Evil - robwebster
22. Misunderstood - Amoniz
23. In the Presence of Enemies - Rafael Guerra
24. The Shattered Fortress - Jamesman
25. Lines in the Sand - Marvellous G
26. The Spirit Carries On - kirbywelch92
27. Pull Me Under - MykeHavoc
28. A Nightmare to Remember - ZKX-2099
29. Disappear - BlobVanDam
30. hefdaddy42
31. emindead
32. Hell's Kitchen - ariich
33. ReaPsTA
34. 6:00 - tri.ad
35. PlaysLikeMyung
36. skydivingninja
37. orcus116
38. Genowyn
39. Ultimetalhead
40. Scurvy!Dreams

Again, just send me one song you want and I'll work out if there's a conflict.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Marvellous G on December 13, 2009, 11:50:40 AM
I'd like Misunderstood, but I'm sure someone higher up will nab it because it's AWESOME. But yeah, if nobody else wants it I'll have a go at that.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on December 13, 2009, 11:59:23 AM
I can has Trial of Tears?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on December 13, 2009, 12:00:16 PM
I can has Trial of Tears?

EDIT: Jamesman should be included too. He requested a temp ban for studying
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Darkes7 on December 13, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
Since I'm just 17th on the list, these are seven songs, in order, that I'd be far more than happy to write about:
1. Home
2. Voices
3. Finally Free
4. The Root of All Evil
5. The Mirror
6. A Nightmare to Remember
7. The Shattered Fortress

This is a kind of "priority list" - if Home is taken, I'd like Voices, if it's taken then Finally Free etc. There are three songs I'd also like to write about - The Glass Prison, In The Name of God and Space-Dye Vest - but I feel I have far too little experience to take them, especially in the last case.

Edit: oh, right, skydivingninja wanted Home as well. Then, I'm fine with the rest. :)
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: emindead on December 13, 2009, 02:40:36 PM
I'll take "Learning to Live".
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ZKX-2099 on December 13, 2009, 02:41:02 PM
I can do anything but the demo songs and When Dream and Day Unite songs. Preferred songs being Glass Prison, In The Name Of God and Take The Time.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 13, 2009, 03:07:36 PM
I'll take "Learning to Live".
Damn you emin, that's what I wanted :lol

I'll have to pick something else then...
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Nick on December 13, 2009, 03:32:51 PM
I already messaged TOX, but just so you all know Octavarium will not be available to you.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 13, 2009, 03:44:31 PM
Ok I'll take In the Name of God instead. :)
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: robwebster on December 13, 2009, 04:20:06 PM
I'd really dig Stream of Consciousness if no-one snaps it up. Which, in all probability, they will! Lovely song though, in my top five.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on December 13, 2009, 06:02:30 PM
*Hopes for Glass Prison*
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 13, 2009, 07:42:37 PM
*Hopes for Glass Prison*

I was so close to choosing that song (tied as my favourite) but I figured I could do better justice to SDOIT. Hope you can get it
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on December 13, 2009, 08:01:58 PM
Why are we only doing the top 40? I have no reasonable explanation. So again, if anyone has a better suggestion for how many we should do, please let me know.
I like top 40. Another idea I had was to do a top 25, and then have a few people write blurbs about lower ranked songs that they love.

I'd also love to do a separate list of the Top 10 most loved and hated songs. Basically have 2 people write 2 very different blurbs about the "controversial" songs with high standard deviations. ie, have KevShmev and Blob both write about Scarred. You can organize that too if you like, or I'll lead it.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: tri.ad on December 13, 2009, 11:38:44 PM
When are the blurbs due?
Title: Re: DTF Song Ratings Thread: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Dream Team on December 14, 2009, 07:03:31 AM
Yeah we're thinking of making sure whoever writes about the song rated it at least a 9 if possible. Obviously we may not be able to do that for every single song, but we'll give it a try!

In the other thread I listed UAGM as my 3rd favorite DT song, so I'll take a crack at it if that's OK . . .

Edit: Whoops! Quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote Nick.

TOX, I requested UAGM back on the 3rd . . . still OK?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: skydivingninja on December 14, 2009, 07:11:02 AM
How long should these blurbs be?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on December 14, 2009, 07:26:39 AM
I'll try and post an example of a "blurb" (even though it doesn't necessarily have to be just that. If you have many insights, it can be a few paragraphs) later today.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: orcus116 on December 14, 2009, 07:35:05 AM
Take The Time
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: setrataeso on December 14, 2009, 08:33:39 AM
The Great Debate. Please and thanks.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 14, 2009, 01:09:31 PM
I'd also love to do a separate list of the Top 10 most loved and hated songs. Basically have 2 people write 2 very different blurbs about the "controversial" songs with high standard deviations. ie, have KevShmev and Blob both write about Scarred. You can organize that too if you like, or I'll lead it.
This is a really cool idea :tup
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Nick on December 14, 2009, 01:12:29 PM
And if you have all the info in the right place, finding the standard deviations should not be much trouble for you.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on December 14, 2009, 01:14:32 PM
Top 20 most controversial songs (by standard deviation):
1. The Dark Eternal Night: 2.512
2. Scarred: 2.465
3. Regression: 2.266
4. Space Dye-Vest: 2.127
5. Burning My Soul: 2.123
6. Light Fuse and Get Away: 2.098
7. The Ministry of Lost Souls: 2.016
8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 1.979
9. The Dance of Eternity: 1.966
10. Prophets of War: 1.963
11. A Vision: 1.939
12. The Great Debate: 1.929
13. The Killing Hand: 1.925
14. Only a Matter of Time: 1.917
15. Sacrificed Sons: 1.911
16. The Best of Times: 1.896
17. Anna Lee: 1.890
18. Eve: 1.866
19. Endless Sacrifice: 1.866
20. You Not Me: 1.857

You're right, that wasn't much trouble.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 14, 2009, 01:53:12 PM
:lol
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: orcus116 on December 14, 2009, 02:16:47 PM
1. The Dark Eternal Night: 2.512
2. Scarred: 2.465

FO REAL?!
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on December 14, 2009, 02:22:36 PM
(https://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/OQwerty1/no_wai.jpg)

Anyway, enough hjacking for now. I took ACOS, and am worried about it. I can only imagine everyone picking before me was scared as well.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 14, 2009, 02:39:17 PM
(https://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/OQwerty1/no_wai.jpg)

Anyway, enough hjacking for now. I took ACOS, and am worried about it. I can only imagine everyone picking before me was scared as well.
:lol I thought about it, but decided it was too overwhelming. Good luck!
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on December 14, 2009, 02:42:48 PM
Someone get Gyno to make his choice so I can nab TGP.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 14, 2009, 02:47:37 PM
Top 20 most controversial songs (by standard deviation):
1. The Dark Eternal Night: 2.512
2. Scarred: 2.465
3. Regression: 2.266
4. Space Dye-Vest: 2.127
5. Burning My Soul: 2.123
6. Light Fuse and Get Away: 2.098
7. The Ministry of Lost Souls: 2.016
8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 1.979
9. The Dance of Eternity: 1.966
10. Prophets of War: 1.963
11. A Vision: 1.939
12. The Great Debate: 1.929
13. The Killing Hand: 1.925
14. Only a Matter of Time: 1.917
15. Sacrificed Sons: 1.911
16. The Best of Times: 1.896
17. Anna Lee: 1.890
18. Eve: 1.866
19. Endless Sacrifice: 1.866
20. You Not Me: 1.857

You're right, that wasn't much trouble.
I AM CALLING EVE RIGHT NOW (for a pro, definitely).
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Nick on December 14, 2009, 02:53:32 PM
And I'll be taking The Killing Hand pro.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on December 14, 2009, 02:58:01 PM
Top 20 most controversial songs (by standard deviation):
1. The Dark Eternal Night: 2.512
2. Scarred: 2.465
3. Regression: 2.266
4. Space Dye-Vest: 2.127
5. Burning My Soul: 2.123
6. Light Fuse and Get Away: 2.098
7. The Ministry of Lost Souls: 2.016
8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 1.979
9. The Dance of Eternity: 1.966
10. Prophets of War: 1.963
11. A Vision: 1.939
12. The Great Debate: 1.929
13. The Killing Hand: 1.925
14. Only a Matter of Time: 1.917
15. Sacrificed Sons: 1.911
16. The Best of Times: 1.896
17. Anna Lee: 1.890
18. Eve: 1.866
19. Endless Sacrifice: 1.866
20. You Not Me: 1.857

You're right, that wasn't much trouble.
I AM CALLING EVE RIGHT NOW (for a pro, definitely).
I think Scurv was thinking top 10, but top 20 would work as well.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: robwebster on December 14, 2009, 03:36:02 PM
Top 20 most controversial songs (by standard deviation):
1. The Dark Eternal Night: 2.512
I'd love to try and champion The Dark Eternal Night. God knows I've had enough practice in the last month or so!

Alternatively, I'm fond of Sacrificed Sons, and I reckon I could do You Not Me justice. The rest I don't really have any strong opinions about either way, so that'd be an exceptionally dull read.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Darkes7 on December 14, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
I'd love to write the positive for Regression and/or The Ministry of Lost Souls.

There are no songs I actually dislike for any reason (or have certain reasons for which I could dislike it, like the song-title-of-which-should-not-be-mentioned :P) on the list, so I think there'd be no point in me writing any negative ones.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 14, 2009, 06:42:56 PM
Top 20 most controversial songs (by standard deviation):
1. The Dark Eternal Night: 2.512
2. Scarred: 2.465
3. Regression: 2.266
4. Space Dye-Vest: 2.127
5. Burning My Soul: 2.123
6. Light Fuse and Get Away: 2.098
7. The Ministry of Lost Souls: 2.016
8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun: 1.979
9. The Dance of Eternity: 1.966
10. Prophets of War: 1.963
11. A Vision: 1.939
12. The Great Debate: 1.929
13. The Killing Hand: 1.925
14. Only a Matter of Time: 1.917
15. Sacrificed Sons: 1.911
16. The Best of Times: 1.896
17. Anna Lee: 1.890
18. Eve: 1.866
19. Endless Sacrifice: 1.866
20. You Not Me: 1.857

You're right, that wasn't much trouble.
I AM CALLING EVE RIGHT NOW (for a pro, definitely).
I think Scurv was thinking top 10, but top 20 would work as well.
Oh, poo.

Well, if you want to stick to 10, that's OK with me, Scurv.  But in that case, I don't really want to do one.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Genowyn on December 14, 2009, 07:34:27 PM
When do you want our blurbs by?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 14, 2009, 08:27:22 PM
I'll take pro on TDEN and negative on Scarred :lol
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Scurvy!Dreams on December 14, 2009, 11:13:13 PM
Well, if you want to stick to 10, that's OK with me, Scurv.  But in that case, I don't really want to do one.
I was actually going to stick to 10, but not the top 10. Probably go with the ones that seem like they'll be most interesting. Starting a thread now.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: GuineaPig on December 15, 2009, 08:02:29 AM
List of songs I'd be fine writing about:

Lines in the Sand

Blind Faith
The Mirror
Hell's kitchen
Wait for Sleep
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
One Last Time

Preferences in bold.  Also, to what extent are we doing this?  Top 30, top 40, top 50?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 15, 2009, 09:26:52 AM
Well, if you want to stick to 10, that's OK with me, Scurv.  But in that case, I don't really want to do one.
I was actually going to stick to 10, but not the top 10. Probably go with the ones that seem like they'll be most interesting. Starting a thread now.
:tup
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Amoniz on December 17, 2009, 04:54:40 AM
I already sent a PM.
I want Misunderstood.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Marvellous G on December 17, 2009, 10:47:49 AM
Dagnammit. Could I take Disappear, Lines in the Sand or Surrounded if they're free? (in descending order of preference)
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Darkes7 on December 17, 2009, 02:21:04 PM
So it seems I get Finally Free. I'm very happy about it, I'll probably write it over the weekend :)
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on December 23, 2009, 08:03:56 AM
When are these due? I've got a ton going on this week.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: cthrubuoy on December 23, 2009, 09:06:12 AM
Is there a complete list yet?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Rafael Guerra on December 26, 2009, 08:31:01 AM
Hum...i´ve been out for a week and today I ran to the computer wondering if the proccess already started. It would be nice to know when we should have our paragraphs and maybe post them here for critics, maybe?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Darkes7 on December 26, 2009, 08:37:20 AM
I wanted to write it a week ago but had some work to do and now it's Christmas so I was quite seriously lazy. I'll do it very soon, though.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 26, 2009, 08:40:57 AM
I would guess many people have been pre-occupied with Christmas related stuff recently. If I knew we had to have them in, then of course I'd do it asap, but otherwise I've just had other things going on distracting me.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on January 06, 2010, 10:52:17 AM
I sent some of you e-mails recently about the next few picks. Some replies would be appreciated! :yarr
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: setrataeso on January 10, 2010, 08:51:16 PM
I think people need to get back into this now that the holidays are done.

Because I know my writeup will be appearing first, I figured I'd share what I wrote to give people ideas, and to remind them of what they signed up for.

----------

Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is perhaps Dream Theater’s album that draws the most varying opinions. Split into two vastly different discs (one a 5-song disc of mostly experimental songs, and one a disc featuring a 42 minute song following a more traditional prog metal style), there was sure to be some fans at odds with each other over what songs were “good”. Appropriately enough, The Great Debate is all about split opinions. Detailing one of the great debates of our time, stem-cells, lyricist John Petrucci takes neither side. Instead he opts to simply show both sides of the argument, all the while aided by samples from left and right-wing figures. As a side note: the right wing samples are played through the right speaker, and vice-versa.

The standout player here is easily drummer Mike Portnoy. Delivering what I believe to be his finest work in Dream Theater, Mike does not stop for a moment in this song. The layers of complex cymbal work, the creative fills, and the unconventional time signatures would have made this song a nightmare for any other drummer. James Labrie also proves to be a very adaptive vocalist. The verses are mostly distorted or sung with a sharper edge, while the choruses fit his more traditional high-register style. Jordan Rudess and John Petrucci both get to trade solos, as well.

Despite being among the top 40 Dream Theater songs, The Great Debate has a very split opinion among the fanbase (indeed). Common criticism is that the song becomes very sample-heavy during the intro and outro, which some find drags on for too long. I, for one, enjoy the different feel to the song, which is only heightened by being among the varied songs on the first disc of Six Degrees.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on January 11, 2010, 05:19:21 AM
It looks like I can pick a second song, so I'll do it for 6:00
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: kirbywelch92 on January 14, 2010, 07:25:12 PM
When does this whole thing go down? I just hope that I haven't been expected to turn one in yet because I haven't started writing it yet.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: emindead on January 15, 2010, 03:09:12 PM
I already chose Learning to Live. I pass on doing another one.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 15, 2010, 03:16:02 PM
I can has Trial of Tears?

EDIT: Jamesman should be included too. He requested a temp ban for studying

Oh dude, thanks for catching that for me and watching my back bro, I have The Shattered Fortress. o/
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on January 15, 2010, 03:25:01 PM
*\o

You know I got your back
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 16, 2010, 05:19:25 PM
 :laugh:

I can't wait to write this up, I'll probably do it tonight.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ReaPsTA on January 16, 2010, 05:24:05 PM
I'm not gonna do a second song write-up. One is enough.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Genowyn on January 16, 2010, 07:04:44 PM
I would love to have a submission deadline, or else I'm never going to actually do it :p
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: setrataeso on January 16, 2010, 10:28:06 PM
Ok, its due by February 6th.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: GuineaPig on January 16, 2010, 10:37:01 PM
I'd be down for another.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ZKX-2099 on January 17, 2010, 10:29:52 AM
Are there any rules or limits we should stick to?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Nick on January 18, 2010, 08:29:22 AM
If possible to do another I'd like to do Stream of Consciousness, and if that's not available then Raise the Knife or Strange DejaVu.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Ultimetalhead on January 18, 2010, 08:38:11 AM
Someone let me know when my turn's up.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on January 18, 2010, 03:44:55 PM
Guys, I apologize for being so lazy about this these past few weeks. My goal is to have everyone's assignments finished by Friday.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: cthrubuoy on April 29, 2010, 09:16:37 AM
What happened to this? :(
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: ariich on April 29, 2010, 12:51:46 PM
Oh shit, totally forgot about it :lol
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: setrataeso on May 04, 2010, 03:52:01 PM
Am I the only one who actually did it?
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Darkes7 on May 04, 2010, 04:01:55 PM
I remember I wanted to, but just a few days later I left... if you decide to actually start it again, I'll do it.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: Nick on May 07, 2010, 11:24:22 AM
Am I the only one who actually did it?

I'm reasonably sure I did mine.
Title: Re: DTF Song List Project: Sign-Up Here (Deadline Sunday Dec 6)
Post by: GuineaPig on May 07, 2010, 11:44:27 AM
I did mine.