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General => Archive => Topic started by: Chino on November 15, 2009, 11:15:17 AM
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Who would win in a cage match and why?
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Water is super effective!
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Bowser. This isn't even a contest.
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Water is super effective!
This. Duh.
Unless Bowser has mean Ultra Potion, Blastoise would crush him.
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This thread is amazing.
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Water is super effective!
This. Duh.
Unless Bowser has mean Ultra Potion, Blastoise would crush him.
Totaly. Hydro Pump!
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It's Super Effective!
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Water is super effective!
Irrelevant. Bowser isn't a Pokemon.
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Water is super effective!
Irrelevant. Bowser isn't a Pokemon.
So?
Water >>>>>>>> Fire
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Water is super effective!
Irrelevant. Bowser isn't a Pokemon.
:loser:
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(https://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/6/6e/Blastoise_shoop_woop.JPG)
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(https://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/6/6e/Blastoise_shoop_woop.JPG)
And your infinite supply of picture like this is why you are my favorite poster Gwii!
:rollin :rollin
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Even if Blastoise can't be super effective, Bowser's fire would still be ineffective on Blastoise!
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Even if Blastoise can't be super effective, Bowser's fire would still be ineffective on Blastoise!
I mean, for God's sake! If Bowser can defeat a little Italian man, how can he hope to beat a giant turtle with cannons coming out of his back.
Also, this is a necessity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_phU1coQCU
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I love how at 12 seconds he looks like he's holding a guitar.
:lol :lol
Oh, and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlcqWQVVuU
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Blastoise, because he has motherfuckin' cannons built into him. Also, this thread needs a poll.
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(https://www.mariomayhem.com/fun/mario_parodies/images/bowser_bullets.png)
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:lol
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win
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Blastoise. As mentioned above, Bowser's fire would be ineffective against Blastoise and Bowser can't even beat a midget plumber in a fight.
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Blastoise, he has Hydro Pump.
Oh, and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlcqWQVVuU
Holy shit! I wasn't that excited when I got mine.
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Blastoise, he has Hydro Pump.
Oh, and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlcqWQVVuU
Holy shit! I wasn't that excited when I got mine.
That kid was a guest on Tosh . 0
He's all grown up now.
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Bowser is the most awesome, although blastoise has cannon's sticking out of his back.
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Any pokemon could take Bowser. Thats right. Any.
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Even Magikarp???
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Super Mario Bros. is awesome, while Pokemon is trash, so the decision is very easy. :)
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Super Mario Bros. is awesome, while Pokemon is trash, so the decision is very easy. :)
:omg:
BLASPHEMY!
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Super Mario Bros. is awesome, while Pokemon is trash, so the decision is very easy. :)
I am shunning you for the next 6 weeks.
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Blastoise. As mentioned above, Bowser's fire would be ineffective against Blastoise and Bowser can't even beat a midget plumber in a fight.
You guys are focusing too much on the fire. Bowser has claws, hammers, nimble jumping, and a spiked shell. Blastoise is slow, immobile, and his hydro cannons are his only meaningful weapon.
As for the Mario argument, it's not a worthy comparison. Mario is more nimble and tactically intelligent than both Blastoise and Bowser. Blastoise is less nimble and intelligent than Bowser. Mario beats Bowser because of advantages Blastoise doesn't have, so there's no reason to bring him into this conversation.
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Super Mario Bros. is awesome, while Pokemon is trash, so the decision is very easy. :)
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow was better than any mario game ever.
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Blastoise.
Super Mario Bros. is awesome, while Pokemon is trash, so the decision is very easy. :)
:dammitamanda:
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Blastoise. As mentioned above, Bowser's fire would be ineffective against Blastoise and Bowser can't even beat a midget plumber in a fight.
You guys are focusing too much on the fire. Bowser has claws, hammers, nimble jumping, and a spiked shell. Blastoise is slow, immobile, and his hydro cannons are his only meaningful weapon.
First of all, theres no way Bowser is that much more "nimble" then Blastoise.
Plus, Blastoise doesnt only have Hydro Pump; hes got Skull Bash, Bite, he can use his shell as a shield... And then theres all the TMs and HMs he can learn.
Blastoise has got all kinds of crazy shit goin on.
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Super Mario Bros. is awesome, while Pokemon is trash, so the decision is very easy. :)
I am shunning you for the next 6 weeks.
Shun the non beleiver!
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Blastoise has got all kinds of crazy shit goin on.
This is a good point. You have to establish what attacks Blastoise has going in.
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Super Mario Bros. is awesome, while Pokemon is trash, so the decision is very easy. :)
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow was better than any mario game ever.
truth
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Guys seriously? Bowser isn't all about fire ya'know! Like Reap said, he's got a lot of other tricks up his sleeves. Blastoise would have to have one very good trainer to direct him in order to beat Bowser.
Besides:
(https://i.neoseeker.com/p/Games/Nintendo_64/Role-Playing/Fantasy/papermario_profilelarge.jpg)
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This thread is turning into a warzone. :lol
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Water beats fire. The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective. Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB). None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.
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MEWTWO!
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What about Pikachu, you know he (she?) has something to say!
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What about Pikachu, you know he (she?) has something to say!
Fuck Pikachu, 'nough said.
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What about Pikachu, you know he (she?) has something to say!
Fuck Pikachu, 'nough said.
Already did, but I got burned.
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What about Pikachu, you know he (she?) has something to say!
Fuck Pikachu, 'nough said.
Already did, but I got burned.
Better get yourself checked.
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What if Bowser evolves into GigaBowser?
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(https://www.forevernintendo.com/SmashBrosSeries/Wii/SuperSmashBrosBrawl/FinalSmashes/Bowser.jpg)
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:metal
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Water beats fire. The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective. Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB). None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.
Actually surf would be x6 effective. Because Surf is a water-based move, and Blastoise is a water-type. So that adds x1.5 on top of the x4. And that's without including critical hits.
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Water beats fire. The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective. Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB). None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.
Actually surf would be x6 effective. Because Surf is a water-based move, and Blastoise is a water-type. So that adds x1.5 on top of the x4. And that's without including critical hits.
:coolio
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Water beats fire. The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective. Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB). None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.
Actually surf would be x6 effective. Because Surf is a water-based move, and Blastoise is a water-type. So that adds x1.5 on top of the x4. And that's without including critical hits.
Bowser is not a pokemon, the rules of multipliers and critical hits don't matter.
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Bowser has loads of minions that would help him.
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Bowser has loads of minions that would help him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOcixShtD5o
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Blastoise. Bowser, while one of my favourite SSB characters, is a pussy.
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Bowser has loads of minions that would help him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOcixShtD5o
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Bowser has loads of minions that would help him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOcixShtD5o
HAHAHA
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Bowser has loads of minions that would help him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOcixShtD5o
HAHAHA
So true..... :lol
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Water beats fire. The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective. Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB). None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.
Actually surf would be x6 effective. Because Surf is a water-based move, and Blastoise is a water-type. So that adds x1.5 on top of the x4. And that's without including critical hits.
Bowser is not a pokemon, the rules of multipliers and critical hits don't matter.
I thought we all agreed that those minor technicalities don't apply in this particular fight.
Or maybe we didn't.
Either way, I'm just providing that facts necessary to formulate an educated judgment on the situation.
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Bowser has loads of minions that would help him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOcixShtD5o
:rollin :rollin :rollin
That is... awesome.
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Blastoise. As mentioned above, Bowser's fire would be ineffective against Blastoise and Bowser can't even beat a midget plumber in a fight.
You guys are focusing too much on the fire. Bowser has claws, hammers, nimble jumping, and a spiked shell. Blastoise is slow, immobile, and his hydro cannons are his only meaningful weapon.
As for the Mario argument, it's not a worthy comparison. Mario is more nimble and tactically intelligent than both Blastoise and Bowser. Blastoise is less nimble and intelligent than Bowser. Mario beats Bowser because of advantages Blastoise doesn't have, so there's no reason to bring him into this conversation.
I think it comes down to the attacks Blastoise has equipped, as mentioned above. If he enters the battle with Harden, Hydro Pump, Strength and Surf there's really nothing Bowser can do.
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Guys seriously? Bowser isn't all about fire ya'know! Like Reap said, he's got a lot of other tricks up his sleeves. Blastoise would have to have one very good trainer to direct him in order to beat Bowser.
Besides:
(https://i.neoseeker.com/p/Games/Nintendo_64/Role-Playing/Fantasy/papermario_profilelarge.jpg)
He stole a magic wand? That hardly seems fair.
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He don play by thah rools, bitches.
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He don play by thah rools, bitches.
Well then I'd say he should be disqualified.
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He don play by thah rools, bitches.
Well then I'd say he should be disqualified.
Besides, he's a failure no many how many times he tries.
Blastoise kicks ass no matter what.
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I think it comes down to the attacks Blastoise has equipped, as mentioned above. If he enters the battle with Harden Iron Defense, Hydro Pump, Strength Skull Bash and Surf Rain Dance there's really nothing Bowser can do.
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
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Wow, talk about over-speculating :)
But yeah, Blastoise. Who would win if you would add Mew to the mix though?
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
But the minions don't do anything really.
Just jump on them.
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
But the minions don't do anything really.
They are distractions.Blastoise would have to acknowledge them at some point.
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
But the minions don't do anything really.
They are distractions.Blastoise would have to acknowledge them at some point.
But wouldn't one good surf just take them all out?
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
But the minions don't do anything really.
They are distractions.Blastoise would have to acknowledge them at some point.
But wouldn't one good surf just take them all out?
Not the ghost or sun, they fly.
I just realized something that I am surprised hasn't been addressed yet. Bowser is a fucking turtle! Fire or not, all he has to do it crawl into his shell and take the water. If Blastoise used surf, bowser could probably take it like a champ. Nothing on Bowser is actually fire, unlike the pokemon that had fire on their bodies, (charmander and evolved forms, Moltres, Magmar, etc....) Bowser only exhales hire, much like Gyradose did. At best Blastoise would repel it with water, and that's it. Bowsers fire could at least burn Blastoise, and it would interrupt his vision, allowing Boswer to strike. It would come down to overall strength, and I think Bowser has it.
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Blastoise could turtle as well, if he had to.
In that case, I think it would come down to cannons vs. spikes.
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This is such an epic thread. I love how seriously this is being analyzed.
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This is such an epic thread. I love how seriously this is being analyzed.
Yeah. It's become such a heated debate.
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Well, what are the arguments for both sides up to now?
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
But the minions don't do anything really.
They are distractions.Blastoise would have to acknowledge them at some point.
But wouldn't one good surf just take them all out?
Not the ghost or sun, they fly.
I just realized something that I am surprised hasn't been addressed yet. Bowser is a fucking turtle! Fire or not, all he has to do it crawl into his shell and take the water. If Blastoise used surf, bowser could probably take it like a champ. Nothing on Bowser is actually fire, unlike the pokemon that had fire on their bodies, (charmander and evolved forms, Moltres, Magmar, etc....) Bowser only exhales hire, much like Gyradose did. At best Blastoise would repel it with water, and that's it. Bowsers fire could at least burn Blastoise, and it would interrupt his vision, allowing Boswer to strike. It would come down to overall strength, and I think Bowser has it.
Alright, here's the deal. If Bowser if Fire type, Blastoise gets a x6 damage bonus on hydro pump. With rain dance this is increased even more. If Bowser is normal type, Blastoise' attacks do normal damage. If Bowser is dragon type, Bowser does x0.5 damage, but does normal damage with Skull Bash. If Bowser is dragon/fire type, Bowser does normal damage with both hydro pump and skull bash. Plus he's got the ability to raise his defense. I think Blastoise has got this one.
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
But the minions don't do anything really.
They are distractions.Blastoise would have to acknowledge them at some point.
But wouldn't one good surf just take them all out?
Not the ghost or sun, they fly.
I just realized something that I am surprised hasn't been addressed yet. Bowser is a fucking turtle! Fire or not, all he has to do it crawl into his shell and take the water. If Blastoise used surf, bowser could probably take it like a champ. Nothing on Bowser is actually fire, unlike the pokemon that had fire on their bodies, (charmander and evolved forms, Moltres, Magmar, etc....) Bowser only exhales hire, much like Gyradose did. At best Blastoise would repel it with water, and that's it. Bowsers fire could at least burn Blastoise, and it would interrupt his vision, allowing Boswer to strike. It would come down to overall strength, and I think Bowser has it.
Alright, here's the deal. If Bowser if Fire type, Blastoise gets a x6 damage bonus on hydro pump. With rain dance this is increased even more. If Bowser is normal type, Blastoise' attacks do normal damage. If Bowser is dragon type, Bowser does x0.5 damage, but does normal damage with Skull Bash. If Bowser is dragon/fire type, Bowser does normal damage with both hydro pump and skull bash. Plus he's got the ability to raise his defense. I think Blastoise has got this one.
Bowser is does not have a type, he is not a pokemon, hes a dinosaur. Imagine its Blastoise fighting a T-rex....
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This is such an epic thread. I love how seriously this is being analyzed.
Yeah. It's become such a heated debate.
Next, Yoshi vs. Venusaur!
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This is such an epic thread. I love how seriously this is being analyzed.
Yeah. It's become such a heated debate.
Next, Yoshi vs. Venusaur!
Venusaur within the first 15 seconds
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venusaur deffinatly, im sorry i love Yoshi but venusaur would just brutaly rape him. i mean he has razor leaf, like the single greatest attack ever.
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Magikarp vs Pirahna Plant!
Which one is more incompetent!?!
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Magikarp vs Pirahna Plant!
Which one is more incompetent!?!
Lol :lol
How about Voltorb vs. Bomb-omb?
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How about Voltorb vs. Bomb-omb?
(https://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6931/bobomb.gif) (https://img685.imageshack.us/i/bobomb.gif/)
ftw
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This thread is SO EPIC.
I just mentioned this discussion to my boyfriend just because I thought he would think it was funny, but now were discussing it for ourselves. He's for Blastoise, I'm for Bowser.
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venusaur deffinatly, im sorry i love Yoshi but venusaur would just brutaly rape him. i mean he has razor leaf, like the single greatest attack ever.
Don't forget hyper beam.
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
But the minions don't do anything really.
They are distractions.Blastoise would have to acknowledge them at some point.
But wouldn't one good surf just take them all out?
Not the ghost or sun, they fly.
I just realized something that I am surprised hasn't been addressed yet. Bowser is a fucking turtle! Fire or not, all he has to do it crawl into his shell and take the water. If Blastoise used surf, bowser could probably take it like a champ. Nothing on Bowser is actually fire, unlike the pokemon that had fire on their bodies, (charmander and evolved forms, Moltres, Magmar, etc....) Bowser only exhales hire, much like Gyradose did. At best Blastoise would repel it with water, and that's it. Bowsers fire could at least burn Blastoise, and it would interrupt his vision, allowing Boswer to strike. It would come down to overall strength, and I think Bowser has it.
Alright, lets say Bowser isn't a "fire" type. Then Blastoise doesnt have an "advantage", but its still better than Bowser's fire against Blastoise. That just wont do jack shit.
That leaves it to a straight up fist fight, and honestly, Blastoise would kick his ass if we were looking at it that way.
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
But the minions don't do anything really.
They are distractions.Blastoise would have to acknowledge them at some point.
But wouldn't one good surf just take them all out?
Not the ghost or sun, they fly.
I just realized something that I am surprised hasn't been addressed yet. Bowser is a fucking turtle! Fire or not, all he has to do it crawl into his shell and take the water. If Blastoise used surf, bowser could probably take it like a champ. Nothing on Bowser is actually fire, unlike the pokemon that had fire on their bodies, (charmander and evolved forms, Moltres, Magmar, etc....) Bowser only exhales hire, much like Gyradose did. At best Blastoise would repel it with water, and that's it. Bowsers fire could at least burn Blastoise, and it would interrupt his vision, allowing Boswer to strike. It would come down to overall strength, and I think Bowser has it.
Alright, lets say Bowser isn't a "fire" type. Then Blastoise doesnt have an "advantage", but its still better than Bowser's fire against Blastoise. That just wont do jack shit.
That leaves it to a straight up fist fight, and honestly, Blastoise would kick his ass if we were looking at it that way.
Go to the nearest aquarium and hit a turtle with a flame thrower. Go back in time and spray a hose at a t-rex.... which one would do more damage?
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bowser =/= t rex
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Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.
Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.
But the minions don't do anything really.
They are distractions.Blastoise would have to acknowledge them at some point.
But wouldn't one good surf just take them all out?
Not the ghost or sun, they fly.
I just realized something that I am surprised hasn't been addressed yet. Bowser is a fucking turtle! Fire or not, all he has to do it crawl into his shell and take the water. If Blastoise used surf, bowser could probably take it like a champ. Nothing on Bowser is actually fire, unlike the pokemon that had fire on their bodies, (charmander and evolved forms, Moltres, Magmar, etc....) Bowser only exhales hire, much like Gyradose did. At best Blastoise would repel it with water, and that's it. Bowsers fire could at least burn Blastoise, and it would interrupt his vision, allowing Boswer to strike. It would come down to overall strength, and I think Bowser has it.
Alright, lets say Bowser isn't a "fire" type. Then Blastoise doesnt have an "advantage", but its still better than Bowser's fire against Blastoise. That just wont do jack shit.
That leaves it to a straight up fist fight, and honestly, Blastoise would kick his ass if we were looking at it that way.
Go to the nearest aquarium and hit a turtle with a flame thrower. Go back in time and spray a hose at a t-rex.... which one would do more damage?
Even though I see your point, thats not really a fair comparison.
Why are you comparing Bowser to a flamethrower, and Blastoise to a hose?
And Blastoise gets to stay a turtle, but suddenly Bowser is a fucking T-Rex?
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^This^
The analogies are clearly not working.
I think we may all need to wait until Super Smash Bros 4, where Blastoise will surely be a character, solely for the purpose of figuring out this debate.
We battle 'em. The winner is the superior fighter.
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Since it keeps coming up, lets clear this bit up:
Its fine to not apply Pokemon battle mechanics to Bowser, he's not a Pokemon. So we can't assume water will have any extra effect on him. Blastoise however, IS a Pokemon, and a water type, so fire doesn't do shit to him. That's just one of his natural properties, so no matter what rules we go by, it holds true that fire won't hurt Blastoise (or only hurts a tiny amount, if you wanna get technical here).
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Since it keeps coming up, lets clear this bit up:
Its fine to not apply Pokemon battle mechanics to Bowser, he's not a Pokemon. So we can't assume water will have any extra effect on him. Blastoise however, IS a Pokemon, and a water type, so fire doesn't do shit to him. That's just one of his natural properties, so no matter what rules we go by, it holds true that fire won't hurt Blastoise (or only hurts a tiny amount, if you wanna get technical here).
Agreed.
And if we let Bowser have his minions, and any magic stuff he may possess, then Blastoise is allowed any Pokeperks. So items, trainer logic, and pokemon allies should be allowed on his part.
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Since it keeps coming up, lets clear this bit up:
Its fine to not apply Pokemon battle mechanics to Bowser, he's not a Pokemon. So we can't assume water will have any extra effect on him. Blastoise however, IS a Pokemon, and a water type, so fire doesn't do shit to him. That's just one of his natural properties, so no matter what rules we go by, it holds true that fire won't hurt Blastoise (or only hurts a tiny amount, if you wanna get technical here).
Agreed. Guys, seriously think about it. In Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Bowser swam all the way through an entire ocean and only complained about swallowing a blooper. Obviously water is no match for him. And I would know. After all, I had Goombella as my avatar for over a year here once.
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Still, he's not a T-Rex. And Edan has a valid point. In the Pokemon world, fire does nothing to water.
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Oh, and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlcqWQVVuU
DAAAYYYUUUUM!!!!!!!!!!
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My bad guys, when I was referring to a t-rex I was in the middle of class trying not to break eye contact with my teacher, I was typiin fast and not thinking, for some reason I forgot bowser was a turtle and thought he was a dinosaur.
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:lolpalm:
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(https://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4850/1258421880692.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ew0VtHmik
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ew0VtHmik
:letam:
That's so cool!
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It took me a whole page of this thread before I jumped over to Wikipedia to figure out who/what a Blastoise was. I don’t understand all that Pokemon stuff, so I can’t rule on this battle. But I will say that Bowser has always been a rather undemanding enemy in the Nintendo universe. I mean, seriously, in SMB, all you had to do was run under him when he jumped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOcixShtD5o
And holy shit was this hilarious. I love the voices all the minions have, especially the ghost.
And I always liked SMB2. It wasn’t the best SMB game, but it didn’t suck.
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CLEARLY Blastoise.
More excitingly...
(https://pressthebuttons.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/boo.jpg) vs. (https://www.silalb.com/Giochi/Pokemon/Pokedex/images/gastly.gif)
Oh yes. Bring the noise.
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They can't really hit each other, can they?
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Ghost is super effective against ghost. They can maim each other pretty savagely.
I've got a hunch Boo'd win it at this level, but then if you compare King Boo to this monstrosity (https://fc06.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/009/9/3/Gengar_devours_Pikachu____XD_by_Da_Phase_Meister.jpg), there's not even a contest.
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This thread is archive material
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(https://silverflame757.150m.com/meknux.gif)
VS.
(https://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/9158/552409-028___sandslash_super.png)
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CLEARLY Blastoise.
More excitingly...
*snip*
Oh yes. Bring the noise.
Ghastly by a long shot. He can cause nightmares with his mind.
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But because ghost is super effective against ghost, and Boo doesn't count as a ghost, Ghastly might bite it this time.
However, aren't Boo's attacks physically based? He'd have a hard time damaging Ghastly if that were the case, as I think Ghastly is supposed to be literally a cloud of gas.
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Wouldn't boo just stop and cover his face once the fight started?
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I nominate this thread for thread of the year :hefdaddy
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Gastly has Dream Eater though.
The only thing Boo would win at is tennis. Only because he can do that ballsy make-the-ball-curve-slightly move.
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The only thing Boo would win at is tennis. Only because he can do that ballsy make-the-ball-curve-slightly move.
:lol
This thread turned in an even more awesome direction
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I nominate this thread for thread of the year :hefdaddy
Seconded.
This is the most fun since sliced bread and hookers.
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Gastly has Dream Eater though.
The only thing Boo would win at is tennis. Only because he can do that ballsy make-the-ball-curve-slightly move.
That's why I always chose Boo. Those balls were unbeatable.
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:rollin
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How about:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_06rEawQQvK0/Spv2vsue3zI/AAAAAAAAAA0/p-bhTKBVZyA/s320/ursaring.gif)
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(https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1100/625742450_d186860394.jpg)
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???
How can you fight yourself?
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Mirror move.
*Wild John Petrucci is confused*
*John Petrucci hurt itself in it's confusion*
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I love the direction this thread is taking
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Chain Chomp - Onyx would also be pretty epic.
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Pikachu beat Onix, even back when he was a n00b at the first gym.
Although being chained to something could pose a problem as well.
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Pikachu beat Onix, even back when he was a n00b at the first gym.
Although being chained to something could pose a problem as well.
Well, sort of. He used the sprinklers, and destroyed Brock's gym. Then Brock came by, said "you didn't win, but here's your badge anyway", and then left his father to care for his 86 siblings while he went and had fun. Wasn't really a straightfoward victory.
Since then, I don't think Onix ever lost.
Onix would just have the size on Chain Chomp.
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Chain chomp is made out of metal though, and has pretty big teeth. He would have to be loose from the pole to be able to win though, otherwise Onyx could just keep tossing rocks at him.
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Chain chomp is made out of metal though, and has pretty big teeth. He would have to be loose from the pole to be able to win though, otherwise Onyx could just keep tossing rocks at him.
I still feel like Onix has the pure size on him.
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Pikachu beat Onix, even back when he was a n00b at the first gym.
Although being chained to something could pose a problem as well.
Well, sort of. He used the sprinklers, and destroyed Brock's gym. Then Brock came by, said "you didn't win, but here's your badge anyway", and then left his father to care for his 86 siblings while he went and had fun. Wasn't really a straightfoward victory.
Since then, I don't think Onix ever lost.
Onix would just have the size on Chain Chomp.
This is why I love DTF. :rollin The fact that other people besides myself remember it in such great detail.
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I honestly didnt remember that :lol
Chain Chomp is for sure more high tech. When he gets off the chain, steel with giant teeth beats a couple of boulders with a face.
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Pikachu beat Onix, even back when he was a n00b at the first gym.
Although being chained to something could pose a problem as well.
Well, sort of. He used the sprinklers, and destroyed Brock's gym. Then Brock came by, said "you didn't win, but here's your badge anyway", and then left his father to care for his 86 siblings while he went and had fun. Wasn't really a straightfoward victory.
Since then, I don't think Onix ever lost.
Onix would just have the size on Chain Chomp.
This is why I love DTF. :rollin The fact that other people besides myself remember is in such great detail.
I really feel like watching the series again.
It's been many years, but the classic Pokemon could easily stand the test of time.
What pissed me off is how Ash gave away so many Pokemon!
He gave away Pidgeot, Primeape, Butterfree, Charizard, Squirtle, and tried to let Pikachu go several times. Plus, the very same episode that Togepi finally evolves into Togetic, Misty gives it away to be the Queen of the Togepi.
:therearenowords:
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Chain chomp is made out of metal though, [...]
Let's match it up against Steelix, then. But then again, I don't think that it would make that much of a difference against Chain Chomp.
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Chain chomp is made out of metal though, [...]
Let's match it up against Steelix, then. But then again, I don't think that it would make that much of a difference against Chain Chomp.
Steelix is even bigger than Onix. It would be a blowout.
I can't remember is Steel even effective against Steel?
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Not very effective against each other. And the difference are only 40 centimetres, which is nothing compared to how long Onix and Steelix are.
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Not very effective against each other. And the difference are only 40 centimetres, which is nothing compared to how long Onix and Steelix are.
Well, it may be a deadlock then. It can't see one steel guy fighting another and one clearly winning. It'd just be a lot of clanging, with no real victor.
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What size is our Chain Chomp here? As far as I remember he comes in a variety of sizes, some very large.
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Not very effective against each other. And the difference are only 40 centimetres, which is nothing compared to how long Onix and Steelix are.
Well, it may be a deadlock then. It can't see one steel guy fighting another and one clearly winning. It'd just be a lot of clanging and CC's barking, with no real victor.
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I'm listening to The Dark Nintendo Night right now. Just sayin'...
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(https://www.pokemonelite2000.com/ani122.gif)
vs
(https://website.wlg.nl/whap/luigi.png)
then.
Luigi can be interchangeable with Mario most of the time though. Luigi can throw fire and use drugs (SSBB) but Mr. Mime has the awesome power of being terribly annoying.
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:lol I think we should set these up a bit better; explain the details before we all start debating.
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There was an enormous chain chomp in one of the early levels of Super Mario 64. Many, many times the size of Mario. And if Mario is a short human, it would be a fair fight in terms of size against Steelix.
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Pikachu beat Onix, even back when he was a n00b at the first gym.
Although being chained to something could pose a problem as well.
Well, sort of. He used the sprinklers, and destroyed Brock's gym. Then Brock came by, said "you didn't win, but here's your badge anyway", and then left his father to care for his 86 siblings while he went and had fun. Wasn't really a straightfoward victory.
Since then, I don't think Onix ever lost.
Onix would just have the size on Chain Chomp.
Seriously. Like what is Pokemon teaching us as a society? That it's OK to cheat to win and abandon our families to go party with our friends?
And what about the fact everytime a Pokemon is caught they're imprisoned in Prof. Oak's pedophile farm in the middle of fucking nowhere? And that they're happy about it?
Yep. Pokemon is just the Japanese trying to rape our children.
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Pikachu beat Onix, even back when he was a n00b at the first gym.
Although being chained to something could pose a problem as well.
Well, sort of. He used the sprinklers, and destroyed Brock's gym. Then Brock came by, said "you didn't win, but here's your badge anyway", and then left his father to care for his 86 siblings while he went and had fun. Wasn't really a straightfoward victory.
Since then, I don't think Onix ever lost.
Onix would just have the size on Chain Chomp.
Seriously. Like what is Pokemon teaching us as a society? That it's OK to cheat to win and abandon our families to go party with our friends?
And what about the fact everytime a Pokemon is caught they're imprisoned in Prof. Oak's pedophile farm in the middle of fucking nowhere? And that they're happy about it?
Yep. Pokemon is just the Japanese trying to rape our children.
(https://swordhodingdeer.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/lambtor-1.jpg)
Chain chomp can indeed be HUGE. Not sure how Steelix can do anything against that.
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Pikachu beat Onix, even back when he was a n00b at the first gym.
Although being chained to something could pose a problem as well.
Well, sort of. He used the sprinklers, and destroyed Brock's gym. Then Brock came by, said "you didn't win, but here's your badge anyway", and then left his father to care for his 86 siblings while he went and had fun. Wasn't really a straightfoward victory.
Since then, I don't think Onix ever lost.
Onix would just have the size on Chain Chomp.
Seriously. Like what is Pokemon teaching us as a society? That it's OK to cheat to win and abandon our families to go party with our friends?
And what about the fact everytime a Pokemon is caught they're imprisoned in Prof. Oak's pedophile farm in the middle of fucking nowhere? And that they're happy about it?
Yep. Pokemon is just the Japanese trying to rape our children.
And Ash was FUCKING 11 when he left home.
So it's also teaching parents to abandon their children as early as possible and send them out on dangerous quests.
At least Frodo had a fellowship help him. Ash had two dipshit friends that would come and go on a yearly basis.
EDIT: ninja'd at least 4 times there.
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(https://membres.lycos.fr/Spsty/Persos/Saison3/310/Imag/Chinpokomon.jpg)
I love shoe.
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It's also okay to train animals to fight each other for your amusement.
Shoe!
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I'm amazed PETA wasn't all up in Pokemon's business.
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Let's get back on-topic though.
:neverusethis:
Mario/Luigi or Mr. Mime?
The latter is really annoying, he would probably annoy Mario/Luigi so much that they would give up.
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Let's get back on-topic though.
:neverusethis:
Mario/Luigi or Mr. Mime?
The latter is really annoying, he would probably annoy Mario/Luigi so much that they would give up.
Mr. Mime had invisible wall... he needs nothing else.
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I'm amazed PETA wasn't all up in Pokemon's business.
Good point. Enslaving wild animals and having them do our bidding?
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I'm amazed PETA wasn't all up in Pokemon's business.
Good point. Enslaving wild animals and having them do our bidding?
That would never happen in the real world. :neverusethis:.
O wait, Pokemon is real - my bad.
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It'd be awesome to have a Charizard IRL.
Just sayin'.
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I'm amazed PETA wasn't all up in Pokemon's business.
Good point. Enslaving wild animals and having them do our bidding?
... and betting on it.
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How about:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_06rEawQQvK0/Spv2vsue3zI/AAAAAAAAAA0/p-bhTKBVZyA/s320/ursaring.gif)
NAH NAH NAH NAH. "POKÉMON 5000, ASH'S DARK ONYX CONFUSION" CANNOT BE PART OF THIS GAME. This is about the ORIGINAL 151 Pokémon. No bullshit super evolved na na na huggy bears against the old school Bowser. Let's stay on focus, people!
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Silver/Gold Pokemon were also good!
It went loads downwards after that though.
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How about:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_06rEawQQvK0/Spv2vsue3zI/AAAAAAAAAA0/p-bhTKBVZyA/s320/ursaring.gif)
NAH NAH NAH NAH. "POKÉMON 5000, ASH'S DARK ONYX CONFUSION" CANNOT BE PART OF THIS GAME. This is about the ORIGINAL 151 Pokémon. No bullshit super evolved na na na huggy bears against the old school Bowser. Let's stay on focus, people!
Yeah! The fucks wrong with you?
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(https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7281/missingno.jpg)
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(https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7281/missingno.jpg)
end thread?
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Probably the end of whole DTF. Soon the database will be erased and there will be no possibility to save threads/posts.
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(https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7281/missingno.jpg)
POTY :lolpalm:
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A million rare candies for everyone!
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Nothing doing. You forgot to talk to the caterpie/ratatta/weedle man.
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Nothing doing. You forgot to talk to the caterpie/ratatta/weedle man.
Oh right. I forgot about that.
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(https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7281/missingno.jpg)
POTY :lolpalm:
Thank you :lol.
I caught it once. I could never save again, ruined my whole game :p.
And I hated the old man that would teach you how to catch pokemon.
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....what am I not getting? It's just a blur...
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....what am I not getting? It's just a blur...
It's not a blur. It's missingno. The pokemon that could turn into a level 600 oddish with splash once you caught it.
And then turned into a level 5 abra once you leveled it.
Too bad you could only capture him once, after that you're game was broken :lol.
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....what am I not getting? It's just a blur...
:therearenowords:
And that's weird. Cause I caught him once, and my game isn't borked :neverusethis:
On bulbapedia (such a thing exists, yes. Incredible resource), they detail that there are several types of missingno. I the one I caught turned into a lvl 1 Kangaskhan with water gun, watergun, hyper beam and dizzy punch. The only error I saw were people walking on the roof of the abandoned mansion in Cinnabar.
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^ Yeah, mine always did that too. :lol
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....what am I not getting? It's just a blur...
:therearenowords:
And that's weird. Cause I caught him once, and my game isn't borked :neverusethis:
On bulbapedia (such a thing exists, yes. Incredible resource), they detail that there are several types of missingno. I the one I caught turned into a lvl 1 Kangaskhan with water gun, watergun, hyper beam and dizzy punch. The only error I saw were people walking on the roof of the abandoned mansion in Cinnabar.
Yea, there were always people up there :p. I think it was on the gym though. And you were lucky with your missingno :p.
I forgot he always seemed to have watergun, sometimes multiple times.
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Level 128 Gyrados anyone?
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I never caught one. I found it kinda sketchy, and didnt want to take the chance of ruining my game.
(I still cheated and got 100 rare candies)
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You can do lots of fun shit with a gameshark. I remember strange things happening when you get your mad hax up in there and walk outside of the normal map's boundaries. I found a level 100+ Khangaskan that had the appearance of Prof Oak. :o
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(https://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/7/7d/Goombella.jpg/180px-Goombella.jpg)
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(https://img.epinions.com/images/opti/f9/31/kifmToysAllTiger_Electronics_Pokemon_Pokedex1-resized200.jpg)
I choose Goombella because she not only knew everything about monsters, but also people and areas. Plus she was funny where as the Pokedex was annoying as a mother-fucker.
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Plus, shes an actualy creater, not just an electronic device.
This isnt really a fair fight, is it?
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Plus, shes an actualy creater, not just an electronic device.
This isnt really a fair fight, is it?
Probably not. I just wanted her to win something because she's my favorite game character. :laugh:
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Dexter also had that irritating voice in the show.
The game, on the other hand, had an awesome pokedex.
In the most recent ones, the pokedex was telling you each pokemon's personality, who they took to the prom, balanced your checkbooks, shined your shoes, and saved you %15 or more on car insurance by switching you to Geico.
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Dexter also had that irritating voice in the show.
The game, on the other hand, had an awesome pokedex.
In the most recent ones, the pokedex was telling you each pokemon's personality, who they took to the prom, balanced your checkbooks, shined your shoes, and saved you %15 or more on car insurance by switching you to Geico.
:rollin :clap:
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Dexter also had that irritating voice in the show.
The game, on the other hand, had an awesome pokedex.
In the most recent ones, the pokedex was telling you each pokemon's personality, who they took to the prom, balanced your checkbooks, shined your shoes, and saved you %15 or more on car insurance by switching you to Geico.
/fucking thread.
I vote for the archive.
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(https://www.supermariogames.biz/pics/super-mario-blooper.gif)
VS.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rQMq1b0XzMQ/Sr-n43yd-JI/AAAAAAAAJRI/GaJryx9QqOE/s400/tentacool.png)
Well this might be an unfair match, 'cause tentacool has the poison sting, but still...
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Tentacool actually has attacks. The Mario squid just swims into you. But maybe he is covered in poison, that would explain why Mario dies when touching a squid.
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Dexter also had that irritating voice in the show.
The game, on the other hand, had an awesome pokedex.
In the most recent ones, the pokedex was telling you each pokemon's personality, who they took to the prom, balanced your checkbooks, shined your shoes, and saved you %15 or more on car insurance by switching you to Geico.
/fucking thread.
I vote for the archive.
Seriously. If this thread isn't archived, I'll be disappointed.
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(https://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6126/failnick.jpg) (https://img4.imageshack.us/i/failnick.jpg/)
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THE ULTIMATE BATTLE!
(https://www.golivewire.com/forums/img.cgi?i=19252)
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(https://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/1239730368-astley.jpg)
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Explain to me how Rick Astley is from the Mushroom Kingdom?
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(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8MFEFbXFOc4/Sm_CJ5QVIxI/AAAAAAAACms/8Oc37E7WqJY/S1600-R/pokeball.jpg)
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(https://delfinoplaza.zelda-portal.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/questionmark-block1.png)
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Duh, the pokeball. Who knows what goes on in there?
The block just hold one item inside a cube of bricks, but pokeballs have a living creature just chillin' inside.
Oh, and this thread had better be archived, because if a thread this ridiculous goes for 6 pages and has actual heated debate, it's a success.
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The ? can contain loads of cool stuff as well. Like plants that go up the to clouds, or a feather that makes it possible to fly.
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Like plants that go up the to clouds, or a feather that makes it possible to fly.
To be fair, neither of those are as a. badass or b. large as a massive fuck-off dragon.
(https://194.249.196.220/Splet2008/A13/splet2b13/charizard.png)(https://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/149_dragonite2.jpg)
(https://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/Obi-Ben/gyarados.jpg)
"sup."
PLUS it has to give 'em sustenance. Imagine the amount of raw meat those bastards need.
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Pokemon have one advantage though. They cannot die, only faint :\. The grass everywhere must be full of *fainted* pokemon.
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Pokemon have one advantage though. They cannot die, only faint :\. The grass everywhere must be full of *fainted* pokemon.
Psh, check out Pokemon Tower in Lavender Town. Them's well good at dying. They're just made of sterner stuff than flimsy ol' Bowser in battle.
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Pokemon have one advantage though. They cannot die, only faint :\. The grass everywhere must be full of *fainted* pokemon.
Psh, check out Pokemon Tower in Lavender Town. Them's well good at dying. They're just made of sterner stuff than flimsy ol' Bowser in battle.
(https://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/e3_2001/vg/gamecube/supersmashbrosmelee/ssbm_0518_screen002.jpg)
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(https://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6126/failnick.jpg) (https://img4.imageshack.us/i/failnick.jpg/)
How about I don't lock, I don't archive, and I just ban you instead? :p
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Don't you look like that then? I even drew the majesty pendant :p.
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I have to admit, I really did like that and the drawing in general. :lol
Anyway I will archive this once it turns into complete spam. But as long as you are all discussing possible fictitious matches, then keep it going.
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I have to admit, I really did like that and the drawing in general. :lol
Anyway I will archive this once it turns into complete spam. But as long as you are all discussing possible fictitious matches, then keep it going.
You even have a separate lock button on you keyboard :metal.
But can bowser turn into giga bowser or not? If so, he would definitely win.
(https://www.wiids.nl/files/SSBB_Giga_Bowser_003.jpg)
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Okay, if we're going by the original Bowser and the original Blastoise, than the latter would surely win. And really it's hard to match up the various incarnations of the two after that.
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Okay, if we're going by the original Bowser and the original Blastoise, than the latter would surely win. And really it's hard to match up the various incarnations of the two after that.
But Blastoise is originally a Squirtle.
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Okay, if we're going by the original Bowser and the original Blastoise, than the latter would surely win. And really it's hard to match up the various incarnations of the two after that.
But Blastoise is originally a Squirtle.
And Bowser is originally Baby Bowser.
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Okay, if we're going by the original Bowser and the original Blastoise, than the latter would surely win. And really it's hard to match up the various incarnations of the two after that.
But Blastoise is originally a Squirtle.
And Bowser is originally Baby Bowser.
So then shouldnt their "evolved forms" battle?
Squirtle vs. Baby Bowser
Wartorle vs. Bowser
Blastoise vs. Giga Bowser
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But we've already concluded you can't apply the rules of pokemon to Bowser, only to Blastoise. The point is moot in any case; the terms of the comparison are Blastoise vs. Bowser.
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In what environment are they fighting? Blastoise has the upper hand in a water area, whilst Bowser would prefer fighting in his castle - with all his traps.
He needs to watch out that Blastoise doesn't hit the level to destroy the bridge though.
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That just made me wonder, why didn't Bowser just wait for Mario to get on the bridge and then pull that otherwise entirely useless lever himself?
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Why doesn't he send 500 koopa's at the same time at Mario instead of dividing them over the world? Why doesn't he send 300 bullet bills at Mario, that he can never dodge?
Maybe he isn't as evil as he looks. He should take some lessons from Ganondorf.
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(https://www.buy60574.com/legendary-thread.jpg)
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And that's weird. Cause I caught him once, and my game isn't borked :neverusethis:
On bulbapedia (such a thing exists, yes. Incredible resource), they detail that there are several types of missingno. I the one I caught turned into a lvl 1 Kangaskhan with water gun, watergun, hyper beam and dizzy punch. The only error I saw were people walking on the roof of the abandoned mansion in Cinnabar.
Fuck. Proof reading is sometimes useful. What the hell did you write?
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Oh come on, I see one word that shouldn't be there, the letter that should be capitalized in its place, and a missing word. Not too too bad :lol
Honestly I just type, and expect the grammar and spelling to be right :P
EDIT: Alright, and I shouldn't have started the sentence with "And".
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"borked"? "I the one I caught"? "...with water gun, watergun,"?
I was like... WAT!
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"I" was the word I put in accidentally, T in "the" should have been capitalized, and I missed the space bar on water gun, so sue me :P
And borked is slang son. It means something that's "fucked up".
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Wait wait wait wait. I just thought of something.
Are we assuming Blastoise is being commanded by a trainer? If so, wouldn't it depend on the trainer if Blastoise does well enough against Bowser? And if Squirtle was fighting Baby Bowser, would Baby Bowser have Kamek to help him out? If so, Squirtle is fucked.
(https://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Features/2008/10/Mario%20Bowser%20comparison/Finished/YoshisIslandEnd--article_image.jpg)
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If Blastoise has a trainer, Bowser can just eat the trainer before smashing Blastoise.
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In SSBB though, the trainer is there but he cant be hurt.
I would assume that the trainer would not directly be part of the battle.
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Wait wait wait wait. I just thought of something.
Are we assuming Blastoise is being commanded by a trainer? If so, wouldn't it depend on the trainer if Blastoise does well enough against Bowser? And if Squirtle was fighting Baby Bowser, would Baby Bowser have Kamek to help him out? If so, Squirtle is fucked.
No, that's applying the rules of the pokemon universe the Bowser's status.
If Blastoise has a trainer, Bowser can just eat the trainer before smashing Blastoise.
Not necessarily. Wild pokemon are frequently shown to be capable of combat without a trainer.
And it's arguable that Bowser wouldn't be able to attack the trainer in the first place. It's partly a pokemon battle, and in a pokemon battle, attacks against the trainer are illegal. However this is partly applying Pokemon rules to Bowser. It could go either way.
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But Bowser doesn't listen to the rules, he is bad-ass.
(https://fc07.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/185/b/2/MmP_Bowser_Vs__Blastoise_WIP_by_ev1lempyr.jpg)
Found it on google.
On a side note, I would root for Bowser.
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Wait wait wait wait. I just thought of something.
Are we assuming Blastoise is being commanded by a trainer? If so, wouldn't it depend on the trainer if Blastoise does well enough against Bowser? And if Squirtle was fighting Baby Bowser, would Baby Bowser have Kamek to help him out? If so, Squirtle is fucked.
No, that's applying the rules of the pokemon universe the Bowser's status.
If Blastoise has a trainer, Bowser can just eat the trainer before smashing Blastoise.
Not necessarily. Wild pokemon are frequently shown to be capable of combat without a trainer.
And it's arguable that Bowser wouldn't be able to attack the trainer in the first place. It's partly a pokemon battle, and in a pokemon battle, attacks against the trainer are illegal. However this is partly applying Pokemon rules to Bowser. It could go either way.
Like The Voxyn just said (damn you getting to it before me!) :yeahright , Bowser doesn't play by the rules... So I mean...
That picture is awesome.
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Key points to be determined:
- Is turning into Giga Bowser a possibility?
- Where does the fight take place
- Trainer or no trainer. If so, would Bowser be able to just kill the trainer.
- Any help from the outside? (Minions and stuff)
I'm off to bed now, I shall ponder about this great battle until I fall asleep. I hope to gain some insights in the outcome, and I hope the outcome will be a defeated Blastoise.
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*snip*
:lol Good job on the pic.
Although simply saying "But the guy I'm voting for doesnt have to follow any kinds of rules" isnt really a valid argument. Especially since all kinds of "Pokemon World" rules are being applied to Blastoise.
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Key points to be determined:
- Is turning into Giga Bowser a possibility?
- Where does the fight take place
- Trainer or no trainer. If so, would Bowser be able to just kill the trainer.
- Any help from the outside? (Minions and stuff)
Also, what level and moves does Blastoise have, and what weapons can Bowser use from the Mario universe.
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*snip*
:lol Good job on the pic.
Although simply saying "But the guy I'm voting for doesnt have to follow any kinds of rules" isnt really a valid argument. Especially since all kinds of "Pokemon World" rules are being applied to Blastoise.
We could say that Blastoise follows Pokemon world rules and Bowser follows Mushroom Kingdom rules. Or we take rules out all together and the apocalypse will ensue.
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For that matter, which Bowser are we talking about?
He has so many different games that he's from. Same for Blastoise, right? Or no? I can't recall.
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Name me an instance when Bowser has killed in cold blood. Just cut someone down.
And does Giga Bowser appear in any games besides SSBB's final smash?
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It should be the Blastoise that evolves from the super cool Squirtle with shades from that one episode. Or did that one end up going with Ash?
Either way, he's by far the most badass Squirtle/Blastoise out there.
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I guess both are just the natural and most common form. Bowser didn't change that much, and I don't think Blastoise has either.
Giga Bowser possible = Bowser wins
Giga Bowser not possible = ?
Name me an instance when Bowser has killed in cold blood. Just cut someone down.
And does Giga Bowser appear in any games besides SSBB's final smash?
He would when fighting another fat turtle.
He also appeared in Smash Melee.
There is also a form called Dry Bowser
(https://maaroro.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dry-bowser.png)
Which is how Bowser appears once thrown in the lava (in NSMB).
This thread is actually keeping me from going to bed :lol.
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Name me an instance when Bowser has killed in cold blood. Just cut someone down.
And does Giga Bowser appear in any games besides SSBB's final smash?
He would when fighting another fat turtle.
He also appeared in Smash Melee.
Name me two canon sources where Bowser killed in cold blood, and either transformed or existed as Giga Bowser.
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I was actually just surprised that you were still debating this :lol
Giga Bowser, although he would win, is just not fun to factor into this debate. Both should be in their most simple forms.
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Name me an instance when Bowser has killed in cold blood. Just cut someone down.
And does Giga Bowser appear in any games besides SSBB's final smash?
He would when fighting another fat turtle.
He also appeared in Smash Melee.
Name me two canon sources where Bowser killed in cold blood, and either transformed or existed as Giga Bowser.
Okay, he didn't do it outside of Smash Bros.
But he could let Blastoise *faint* :neverusethis:.
Okay, really bedtime.
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I was actually just surprised that you were still debating this :lol
Giga Bowser, although he would win, is just not fun to factor into this debate. Both should be in their most simple originally proposed forms.
Very well sir, we'll continue this tomorrow :hat
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Okay, original forms then. But then we come to the point of attacks that Blastoise can use. Can he use HM's and TM's? That would change him from his original form imo and not be fair.
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And what of Bowser's various weapons (such as that star rod previously shown by me) can he use? Think about his various armor and weapons from Super Mario RPG.
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I suggest that we say they cannot use any items or TM's/HM's. We still have to set at which level the Blastoise is.
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Well the only two logical ones are the level he evolves at or level 100.
Anything else is just picking a random level, IMO.
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And borked is slang son.
Now that's fucked up!
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Well the only two logical ones are the level he evolves at or level 100.
Anything else is just picking a random level, IMO.
Agree. I vote he is the level he evolves. Level 100 isn't fair, it might be the equivalent of Bowser becoming Giga Bowser.
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So Blastoise is level 36?
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Blastoise needs no TMs or HMs. As I outlined a couple pages back, he has sufficiently powerful moves learned by normal levelup. Iron Defense, Hydro Pump, Rain Dance, Skull Bash.
And as for his level, I disagree. I think there is a third option in the average level of the final boss of the elite four. This would normally be the level Blastoise would be when a player first combats the elite four, and is more representative of his scope of power.
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I agree with XianL an all counts.
Let the debate rage!
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And as for his level, I disagree. I think there is a third option in the average level of the final boss of the elite four. This would normally be the level Blastoise would be when a player first combats the elite four, and is more representative of his scope of power.
Agree :tup. Will he only have those four attacks or all the attacks he would have learned by that level?
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If we judge by Pokemon rules (are we?) only four max. The people on the Blastoise side should pick the four.
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Yeah, four max. The anime would include all, but I think it's been assumed that we're talking the games.
Oh, and I missed a word in my last post. I had meant to say "the average level of the final boss of the elite four's pokemon".
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So what moves should we give him?
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I'm pro-Bowser (anyone with me btw?), so I won't decide on that.
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As I outlined a couple pages back, he has sufficiently powerful moves learned by normal levelup. Iron Defense, Hydro Pump, Rain Dance, Skull Bash.
IMO. I'm open to other opinions, but I feel I've outlined the best possible combination for Bowser excluding TM/HMs
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As I outlined a couple pages back, he has sufficiently powerful moves learned by normal levelup. Iron Defense, Hydro Pump, Rain Dance, Skull Bash.
IMO. I'm open to other opinions, but I feel I've outlined the best possible combination for Bowser excluding TM/HMs
Fine with me. I never chose Squirtle :p.
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Another question:
Is the move set restricted to the Red/Blue days? Or is it fully updated?
If it is the most recent move set, then Blastoise can learn moves like Aqua Tail and Water Pulse.
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Another question:
Is the move set restricted to the Red/Blue days? Or is it fully updated?
If it is the most recent move set, then Blastoise can learn moves like Aqua Tail and Water Pulse.
We have to keep it to red and blue
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Then Bowser can't do anything other than what he could do in the first game he appeared in.
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Then Bowser can't do anything different than Blastoise could do around the time of Red/Blue (which rules out Giga Bowser).
Yeah, it'd be Bowser circa 1998, or whenever the originals were released.
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Changed my post.
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I'm pro Bowser, but...
Hey wait...
Blastoise can't move in Pokemon Red/Blue. Bowser can. How would Blastoise ever reach the axe at the end of the bridge? And how would Bowser ever damage Blastoise with fire?
Good God.
People...
Are they both invincible to each other? :omg:
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Couldn't Bowser also be killed by a thrown hammer? So assuming Blastoise can shoot water with the same force as a thrown hammer, he can win!
Unless like, Bowser is just allergic to hammers or something, and thats why they kill him.
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Bowser is allergic to hammers and to the underside of Mario's shoes.
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Bowser is allergic to hammers and to the underside of Mario's shoes.
Not true. Mario has never been able to jump on Bowser.
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I know fairly certain that it was possible in NSMB (DS).
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I haven't been following this thread, but just thought I'd chime in and say that Bowser would win, because he isn't a pokemon, and therefore isn't completely lame.
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I haven't been following this thread, but just thought I'd chime in and say that Bowser would win, because he isn't a pokemon, and therefore isn't completely lame.
:lol :tup
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I haven't been following this thread, but just thought I'd chime in and say that Bowser would win, because he isn't a pokemon, and therefore isn't completely lame.
:lol :tup
8 pages of heated debate and then this... :|
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Don't you feel silly for wasting 8 pages when the answer was so obvious?
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I think it's rather the fact that a thread that is drenched in awesomeness by wallowing in absurdity gets crushed in one and a half lines.
Oh, well. It was a pleasure while it lasted.
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I haven't been following this thread, but just thought I'd chime in and say that Bowser would win, because he isn't a pokemon, and therefore isn't completely lame.
We have our answer. Since Rich thinks Bowser will win, Blastoise will definitely win.
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Of course.
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:lol
:(
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Sorry aiich, but search you feelings...you know it to be true.
(https://kharminspage.com/pics/sw5vader.jpg)
Blastoise forever!
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Win!! :tup
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:clap:
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Wrong. :loser:
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Wrong. :loser:
no u
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I haven't been following this thread, but just thought I'd chime in and say that Bowser would win, because he isn't a pokemon, and therefore isn't completely lame.
Thanks for ruining the thread, and my evening, dick.
:heart
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After 8 pages of awesomely heated debate, ariich comes in and kills it.
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After 8 pages of awesomely heated debate, ariich comes in and kills it.
With faulty logic no less.
Pokemon is one of the longest standing, most addicting and fun game series EVER!
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Super Mario Bros. > Pokémon.
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Super Mario Bros. = Pokémon.
Fix'd.
Oh, and Bowser <<<<<<<<< Blastoise
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Pokemon = Jack and Daxter > Mario
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Pokemon = Jack and Daxter > Mario
And that's relevant... how? :justjen
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Because Pokemon is way better than Mario. Mario isn't even that great, as proven by my > between Jack and Daxter and Mario.
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But where the fuck does Jak and Daxter come in on any of this? :lol
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Jak and Daxter comes into ANY video game discussion.
Also, Pokemon is the best monster collection game ever yet Mario isn't the best platformer, being beaten by Jak and Daxter and likely others, cementing Pokemon's elevated status relative to Mario.
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That's whack!
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No, that's Jak!
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:facepalm:
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And it it's 8th page, this thread plummeted...
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I think this thread should set sail to The Undying Lands (i.e. the archive).
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I think this thread should set sail to The Undying Lands (i.e. the archive).
Agreed. Of to Elyssium with this one.
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I think this thread should set sail to The Undying Lands (i.e. the archive).
Agreed. Off to The Grey Havens with this one.
Yep
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I think this thread should set sail to The Undying Lands (i.e. the archive).
Agreed. Off to The Grey Havens with this one.
Yep
Agreed. Especially since we've established that Blastoise would win.
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Exactly
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Bowser wins.
/thread.
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wrong