Mind you, I have not once to date listened to any metalcore band and liked them.
Give me a reason, DTF.
1. They're not a metalcore band.
1. They're not a metalcore band.
Oh, then that's on me. Everyone I know who has listened to them has described them as such. And by their pictures, they sort of look the part.
Progressive Metalcore...As if man... Their new style is very un-Metalcore compared to the likes of the first album and maybe the second.
I hate sub-genres. Can we just call them progressive metal?
This thread derailed quickly as well.
Just listen to Colors. If you don't love it, listen to it again. If you still don't love it, keep trying. It took me almost a whole year to appreciate it fully.
Just listen to Colors. If you don't love it, listen to it again. If you still don't love it, keep trying. It took me almost a whole year to appreciate it fully.
If you don't like them, then you don't like them; you can't force yourself.
I've been a fan since The Silent Circus (loved in on the first listen). Forcing yourself to listen to Colors over and over isn't going to make you like them.
If you don't like them, then you don't like them; you can't force yourself.
I've been a fan since The Silent Circus (loved in on the first listen). Forcing yourself to listen to Colors over and over isn't going to make you like them.
Informal Gluttony and Sun of Nothing i don't like that much but all the others are :metal
Sun of Nothing i don't like that much
Is that bad because that picture is fucking scary... I meant i dont like parts of the song especially the middle section. The beginning is badass though. :metalSun of Nothing i don't like that much
(https://www.studentsoftheworld.info/sites/family/img/11472_squidward.jpg)
Their debut album is nearly 5/5, and Alaska is pretty rad too.
My favorite BTBAM songs are Shevanel Cut a Flip and Autodidact.
Colors is really bad.... don't listen to it.
An image macro ::)Well it's nice to see people on the opposite side of the spectrum for BTBAM. I personally think Colors is their best and i think The Great Misdirect will be even better. :metal
I fully expect BTBAM's new album to be even worse than Colors. I wish they would go back to writing music that contained memorable songs whose sections actually had a purpose. One of my biggest qualms with Colors is that there is way too much showmanship and fluff and not nearly enough focused songwriting and structuring.
Sometimes I have a problem with their formula's for songs (Obviously not all the songs, but a lot of them). Its like:I will also disagree there. I personally love both their heavy and mellow sections although BTBAM is nowhere near as bad as Opeth is about the heavy>>>mellow>>>heavy>>>mellow thing.
Heavy>>>mellow>>>heavy>>>mellow
Sometimes it feels like you're just waiting for the heavy parts to pass just so you can get to the awesome more melodic parts in songs.
One of my biggest qualms with Colors is that there is way too much showmanship and fluff and not nearly enough focused songwriting and structuring.
One of my biggest qualms with Colors is that there is way too much showmanship and fluff and not nearly enough focused songwriting and structuring.
I'm guessing the 180 degree breakdowns are new then? When my friend introduced me to BTBAM he gave me Colors and Alaska, as well as describing the "crazy breakdowns" and "holy shit there's a waltz in the middle of nowhere" so I just assumed that's what they did always. I don't mind that stuff and I found the brief bits of hardcore stuff, for lack of a better word, as a good introduction for me to that area of music. Aside from Selkies, most of the songs on Alaska had that hardcore sound that I thought sounded musically terrible so naturally I never got around to it until a little while. I definitely see the shift in style but I don't see where their songwriting has suffered. To me it's on the same level, just in more a progressive metal style. I've also never thought of any of the riffs or passages are being showy so I don't understand where you're coming from. Even if they do those fast "Dream Theater" style riffs they usually meld two parts together to make it sound interesting.
Sometimes I have a problem with their formula's for songs (Obviously not all the songs, but a lot of them). Its like:I will also disagree there. I personally love both their heavy and mellow sections although BTBAM is nowhere near as bad as Opeth is about the heavy>>>mellow>>>heavy>>>mellow thing.
Heavy>>>mellow>>>heavy>>>mellow
Sometimes it feels like you're just waiting for the heavy parts to pass just so you can get to the awesome more melodic parts in songs.
How would I EQ The Silent Circus in WMP11 to sound like Alaska?
One of my biggest qualms with Colors is that there is way too much showmanship and fluff and not nearly enough focused songwriting and structuring.
I'm guessing the 180 degree breakdowns are new then? When my friend introduced me to BTBAM he gave me Colors and Alaska, as well as describing the "crazy breakdowns" and "holy shit there's a waltz in the middle of nowhere" so I just assumed that's what they did always. I don't mind that stuff and I found the brief bits of hardcore stuff, for lack of a better word, as a good introduction for me to that area of music. Aside from Selkies, most of the songs on Alaska had that hardcore sound that I thought sounded musically terrible so naturally I never got around to it until a little while. I definitely see the shift in style but I don't see where their songwriting has suffered. To me it's on the same level, just in more a progressive metal style. I've also never thought of any of the riffs or passages are being showy so I don't understand where you're coming from. Even if they do those fast "Dream Theater" style riffs they usually meld two parts together to make it sound interesting.
It's not new; that is the way their style has always been.
So, I'm with the OP. I've heard nothing that interests me in this band so far. Apart from large font and quoting lines, can anyone articulate why everyone likes this band so much?
So, I'm with the OP. I've heard nothing that interests me in this band so far. Apart from large font and quoting lines, can anyone articulate why everyone likes this band so much?
Memorable riffs, incredibly talented musicianship, complex yet catchy and interesting arrangements, amazing guitar melodies and harmonies, amazing guitar solos (SELKIES), songs that build and build resulting in really awesome, powerful moments (like the sleep on, fly on part of Ants in the Sky or the ending of Mordecai), and so on.
One of my biggest qualms with Colors is that there is way too much showmanship and fluff and not nearly enough focused songwriting and structuring.
I'm guessing the 180 degree breakdowns are new then? When my friend introduced me to BTBAM he gave me Colors and Alaska, as well as describing the "crazy breakdowns" and "holy shit there's a waltz in the middle of nowhere" so I just assumed that's what they did always. I don't mind that stuff and I found the brief bits of hardcore stuff, for lack of a better word, as a good introduction for me to that area of music. Aside from Selkies, most of the songs on Alaska had that hardcore sound that I thought sounded musically terrible so naturally I never got around to it until a little while. I definitely see the shift in style but I don't see where their songwriting has suffered. To me it's on the same level, just in more a progressive metal style. I've also never thought of any of the riffs or passages are being showy so I don't understand where you're coming from. Even if they do those fast "Dream Theater" style riffs they usually meld two parts together to make it sound interesting.
It's not new; that is the way their style has always been.
I feel like you'd be the best to answer this then. I have Silent Circus and S/T. To get into the "hardcore" style are there any songs I should listen to (aside Mordecai) to adapt to the older stuff? I feel like they're a great bridge into stuff I don't normally listen to of that vein so I'm interested.
You don't know what an EQ is, right?How would I EQ The Silent Circus in WMP11 to sound like Alaska?
wut
BTW: LISTEN TO THEM! DON'T PUT THEM OFF FOR HOW THEY LOOK!
You don't know what an EQ is, right?How would I EQ The Silent Circus in WMP11 to sound like Alaska?
wut
BTW: LISTEN TO THEM! DON'T PUT THEM OFF FOR HOW THEY LOOK!
You don't know what an EQ is, right?How would I EQ The Silent Circus in WMP11 to sound like Alaska?
wut
I know that you won't be able to EQ an album to sound like another album. It takes way more than EQ to determine an album's sound.
You don't know what an EQ is, right?How would I EQ The Silent Circus in WMP11 to sound like Alaska?
wut
I know that you won't be able to EQ an album to sound like another album. It takes way more than EQ to determine an album's sound.
Ohh okay. Well I was just unhappy with the low end and the mid range levels on The Silent Circus. Also the high end needs an ever so slight boost too.. EQing it to sound closer to Alaska would be awesome, that's all I'm saying, and my question was how to do it with the WMP11 equaliser.
THIS PLACE WILL KILL ITSELF SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNAAAAAANANANANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNWow, I haven't seen that ava in about 4 or 5 years...
You don't know what an EQ is, right?How would I EQ The Silent Circus in WMP11 to sound like Alaska?
wut
I know that you won't be able to EQ an album to sound like another album. It takes way more than EQ to determine an album's sound.
Ohh okay. Well I was just unhappy with the low end and the mid range levels on The Silent Circus. Also the high end needs an ever so slight boost too.. EQing it to sound closer to Alaska would be awesome, that's all I'm saying, and my question was how to do it with the WMP11 equaliser.
Yeah, you won't be able to do much with EQ. The Silent Circus didn't have as big of a production budget as Alaska, so the quality isn't as good as it could be.
How would I EQ The Silent Circus in WMP11 to sound like Alaska?
How would I EQ The Silent Circus in WMP11 to sound like Alaska?
1. Boost Lows
2. Boost Highs
3. Scoop Mids.
YUM
Seem like a bit of a fad here-today-gone-today band,
Seem like a bit of a fad here-today-gone-today band, like Thrice or Frost, everyone jumps on and away we go....
Seem like a bit of a fad here-today-gone-today band, like Thrice or Frost, everyone jumps on and away we go....
So many things wrong with this statement.
Seem like a bit of a fad here-today-gone-today band, like Thrice or Frost, everyone jumps on and away we go....
So many things wrong with this statement.
Haha, except Thrice have been around for over a decade and have widespread critical acclaim.
I guess you've got a point. I have actually been noticing that the majority of people, especially here on DTF, seem to enjoy certain bands not because they're good but because they're trendy.These guys have some serious talent. :metal
I've never liked PoS.Haha, except Thrice have been around for over a decade and have widespread critical acclaim.
So have Pain of Salvation.
I've never liked PoS.Haha, except Thrice have been around for over a decade and have widespread critical acclaim.
So have Pain of Salvation.
I have actually been noticing that the majority of people, especially here on DTF, seem to enjoy certain bands not because they're good but because they're trendy.
Haha, except Thrice have been around for over a decade and have widespread critical acclaim.Yep, to say they are a fad band is retarded.
I have actually been noticing that the majority of people, especially here on DTF, seem to enjoy certain bands not because they're good but because they're trendy.
Yeah, it's really trendy to like BTBAM... ::)
As long as they keep on putting out good music, why would any one "drop them"?I have actually been noticing that the majority of people, especially here on DTF, seem to enjoy certain bands not because they're good but because they're trendy.
Yeah, it's really trendy to like BTBAM... ::)
Well duh. And when too many people start liking them we're all gonna drop them and move on to the next fad, right guys?
No.Yes.
No.Yes.
I have actually been noticing that the majority of people, especially here on DTF, seem to enjoy certain bands not because they're good but because they're trendy.
Yeah, it's really trendy to like BTBAM... ::)
Well duh. And when too many people start liking them we're all gonna drop them and move on to the next fad, right guys?
I did. They're too popular now. Remember, when it gets popular, it sucks. :smiley:I have actually been noticing that the majority of people, especially here on DTF, seem to enjoy certain bands not because they're good but because they're trendy.
Yeah, it's really trendy to like BTBAM... ::)
Well duh. And when too many people start liking them we're all gonna drop them and move on to the next fad, right guys?
Maybe my internet sarcasm detector isn't working correctly...but did any of us drop DT when BC&SL hit #6 on the charts? Didn't think so...
Too much fail on this page, Orcus!
Sarcasm on the internet.Too much fail on this page, Orcus!
Because I'm 100% serious and not at all trying to show how silly Ytse's comment was.
For me these bands, and there are always new ones popping up, just don't have the falic fortitude to make good music.lol...just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone else likes it because it's the "latest crap".
I don't believe my musical tastes are that out of whack with the rest of the people here who like this band.....or the other trendy ones. But I fire up some of these CD's and just think...wtf?...Is it me....or do people just like to say the love the lastest crap - so they can fit in.
For me these bands, and there are always new ones popping up, just don't have the falic fortitude to make good music.
I don't believe my musical tastes are that out of whack with the rest of the people here who like this band.....or the other trendy ones. But I fire up some of these CD's and just think...wtf?...Is it me....or do people just like to say the love the lastest crap - so they can fit in.
This is off-topic a little, but someone should do a Between The Buried and Me survivor.
I know..it's generalizing....but in three months when there's another new "fad" band that we're all talking about...and yes..from time to time I'm guilty of jumping on........and NOBODY is talking about THIS band anymore...expect an ITYS.
This is off-topic a little, but someone should do a Between The Buried and Me survivor.
I've ran them before. I think I've done all the albums twice now. I know we just did Colors not too long ago. Once TGM comes out, I'll run them again.I know..it's generalizing....but in three months when there's another new "fad" band that we're all talking about...and yes..from time to time I'm guilty of jumping on........and NOBODY is talking about THIS band anymore...expect an ITYS.
How can they be trendy if they've been around for 8 years? They got more popular when their last album came out. So did Dream Theater. Are they trendy now too? Seriously, you make no sense.
This is off-topic a little, but someone should do a Between The Buried and Me survivor.
I've ran them before. I think I've done all the albums twice now. I know we just did Colors not too long ago. Once TGM comes out, I'll run them again.I know..it's generalizing....but in three months when there's another new "fad" band that we're all talking about...and yes..from time to time I'm guilty of jumping on........and NOBODY is talking about THIS band anymore...expect an ITYS.
How can they be trendy if they've been around for 8 years? They got more popular when their last album came out. So did Dream Theater. Are they trendy now too? Seriously, you make no sense.
What is "trendy" is generally popular in the mainstream... ie NOT BTBAM. Their music is quite unique and not at all conforming to current fads in popular music.
I think he means trendy on DTF.
Huh?
What is "trendy" is generally popular in the mainstream... ie NOT BTBAM. Their music is quite unique and not at all conforming to current fads in popular music.
^^^that is what I meant^^^
frost
thrice
POS
and a bunch of others I don't care to go through the archives looking for....here today...forgotten tomorrow.....On DTF.
What the fuck happened to this thread?+1
What the fuck happened to this thread?
hardly, this is exactly what this thread is about.
Convince me.
I'm unconvinced.
They're another DTF fad band.
Opinion stated.
Opinion has been refuted or rebuffed by a bunch of folks.
There we go.
:omg:Well excuse me i am a girl thank you very much and i do love BTBAM! There frkn awesomee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :metal
:biggrin:Omggg I LOVE BTBAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks to my awesome mate sam, i am currently addicted Informal Gluttony and PEOPLE I AM A GIRL, sam told me to say that :) BTBAM FORE :metalVER <3
This thread just keeps getting stranger :hatNo you.
:D lol im lost :P
:D lol im lost :P
:D Yes i was serious about joining up here i love BTBAM!!! :D Thank you for introducing me to them. :)
hey thank you, i listened to them, freakin awesome i must add!!! If youd like me to listen to anything else you think that would be good, just tell me :)you might like Protest The Hero, they are about as crazy as BTBAM :laugh:
Don't.:yeahright
Do.
I mean't don't to the original question. PTH is one of my favorite bands. Turn Soonest To the Seas FTW.Do.
Fix'd.
PTH are definately one of my favorite bands. Check out Fortress (Songs: Bloodmeat, Sequoia Throne)
I mean't don't to the original question. PTH is one of my favorite bands. Turn Soonest To the Seas FTW.Do.
Fix'd.
PTH are definately one of my favorite bands. Check out Fortress (Songs: Bloodmeat, Sequoia Throne)
Protest > BTBAMDo not compare two awesome bands. they are both great. end o story
BOOM
BTBAM > Protest The Herothe vocals you mean? The music is not too dissimilar to BTBAM
PTH is fucking annoying. I can't stand them.
The music is ok by itself, but you are right. I can not stand the PTH vocals. :censoredBTBAM > Protest The Herothe vocals you mean? The music is not too dissimilar to BTBAM
PTH is fucking annoying. I can't stand them.
They are an aquired taste yes. They were the only thing stopping me getting in PTH, but you just get used to them. Just like the first time you heard growls.The music is ok by itself, but you are right. I can not stand the PTH vocals. :censoredBTBAM > Protest The Herothe vocals you mean? The music is not too dissimilar to BTBAM
PTH is fucking annoying. I can't stand them.
I actually liked growls when i first heard them.They are an aquired taste yes. They were the only thing stopping me getting in PTH, but you just get used to them. Just like the first time you heard growls.The music is ok by itself, but you are right. I can not stand the PTH vocals. :censoredBTBAM > Protest The Herothe vocals you mean? The music is not too dissimilar to BTBAM
PTH is fucking annoying. I can't stand them.
But you like them more now right? Once you get used the style, it's not an issue at all. PTH is worth itI actually liked growls when i first heard them.They are an aquired taste yes. They were the only thing stopping me getting in PTH, but you just get used to them. Just like the first time you heard growls.The music is ok by itself, but you are right. I can not stand the PTH vocals. :censoredBTBAM > Protest The Herothe vocals you mean? The music is not too dissimilar to BTBAM
PTH is fucking annoying. I can't stand them.
You still fail.I mean't don't to the original question. PTH is one of my favorite bands. Turn Soonest To the Seas FTW.Do.
Fix'd.
PTH are definately one of my favorite bands. Check out Fortress (Songs: Bloodmeat, Sequoia Throne)
The music is ok by itself, but you are right. I can not stand the PTH vocals. :censoredBTBAM > Protest The Herothe vocals you mean? The music is not too dissimilar to BTBAM
PTH is fucking annoying. I can't stand them.
For me his voice just seems....cheesy.The music is ok by itself, but you are right. I can not stand the PTH vocals. :censoredBTBAM > Protest The Herothe vocals you mean? The music is not too dissimilar to BTBAM
PTH is fucking annoying. I can't stand them.
Whats wrong with Rody's vocals? He has an epic throat. At least he mixes it up a little not like Tommy's "EVERY SONG I RORORORORORORORO!" :lol
The music is ok by itself, but you are right. I can not stand the PTH vocals. :censoredBTBAM > Protest The Herothe vocals you mean? The music is not too dissimilar to BTBAM
PTH is fucking annoying. I can't stand them.
Whats wrong with Rody's vocals? He has an epic throat. At least he mixes it up a little not like Tommy's "EVERY SONG I RORORORORORORORO!" :lol
They're two very different styles. I'll never understand why people always have to compare bands.
They're two very different styles. I'll never understand why people always have to compare bands.
Stole the words right out of my mouth.
here...listen to this.
Code For Silence - Decaying Matter Organic Nemesis
Some of you may like Blotted Science. Extreme instrumental metal. Check it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrlKKYz6nkY
here...listen to this.
Code For Silence - Decaying Matter Organic Nemesis
???
here...listen to this.
Code For Silence - Decaying Matter Organic Nemesis
here...listen to this.
Code For Silence - Decaying Matter Organic Nemesis
???
sorry sigz...too obscure for ya?
I saw BTBAM with In Flames, 3 Inches Of Blood, and The Faceless last night. Be jealous.
I saw BTBAM with In Flames, 3 Inches Of Blood, and The Faceless last night. Be jealous.
no u
I saw BTBAM with In Flames, 3 Inches Of Blood, and The Faceless last night. Be jealous.
no u
I saw BTBAM with In Flames, 3 Inches Of Blood, and The Faceless last night. Be jealous.
no u
I saw BTBAM with In Flames, 3 Inches Of Blood, and The Faceless last night. Be jealous.
no u
I saw BTBAM with In Flames, 3 Inches Of Blood, and The Faceless last night. Be jealous.
no u
I saw BTBAM with In Flames, 3 Inches Of Blood, and The Faceless last night. Be jealous.
no u
no u
I saw BTBAM with In Flames, 3 Inches Of Blood, and The Faceless last night. Be jealous.
Do you remember what In Flames and The Faceless' setlists were? Did The Faceless have a keyboard/synth player playing with them?I came a few minutes into 3 Inches Of Blood so sorry, no The Faceless setlist. But I heard they tore the place apart. I haven't listened to 3 Inches Of Blood in so long that the only songs I recognized were The Goatrider's Horde, Deadly Sinners, and Night Marauders. In Flames setlist was this...
My only complaint is how dead the crowd got during The Hive and Square Nothing.
Yeah the only old songs people really lose their mind over are Pinball Map, Moonshield, and Only For The Weak. Embody The Invisible got a great response too. I don't think their new album is garbage, but it certainly follows the same path they've gone since they switched to alt metal. It's less good stuff but every band has to evolve their sound. The Mirrors Truth, The Chosen Pessimist, and Alias are great songs imo. Delight And Angers is pretty good too.
Ok, so based on everyone's recommendations, I've listened to Selkies a few times, and if this is pretty typical of their sound, I'm going to have to say I don't care for it. Although I love the softer "clean" vocal part halfway though, the growling is awful to listen to.
Do they have any songs that are ALL "clean" (no growling at all)?
Because Square Nothing is a very obscure song, as good as it is. I won't lie, it took me a few seconds to realize what song they were playing. Well they played Episode 666 last time they were here and Jotun the time before that so I guess they wanted to bring out The Hive instead of those other two. I don't think they've played Zombie Inc in a very long time. That song would be tough to pull off with the triple layered guitars and stuff and the whole reason they simplified their sound was so it would be easier to pull it off live. I don't think we'll ever see Zombie Inc again.Yeah the only old songs people really lose their mind over are Pinball Map, Moonshield, and Only For The Weak. Embody The Invisible got a great response too. I don't think their new album is garbage, but it certainly follows the same path they've gone since they switched to alt metal. It's less good stuff but every band has to evolve their sound. The Mirrors Truth, The Chosen Pessimist, and Alias are great songs imo. Delight And Angers is pretty good too.
The Chosen Pessimist is my favourite In Flames song :blush
BUT before you flame me to death, Jester Race is my fav album :P
And wait, how do they not go crazy for for Square Nothing?! I would take episode 666 over The Hive anyday though. I would kill for Zombie Inc. too :D Not to Mention The Jester Race (song) :sadpanda:
Ok, so based on everyone's recommendations, I've listened to Selkies a few times, and if this is pretty typical of their sound, I'm going to have to say I don't care for it. Although I love the softer "clean" vocal part halfway though, the growling is awful to listen to.
Do they have any songs that are ALL "clean" (no growling at all)?
Ok, so based on everyone's recommendations, I've listened to Selkies a few times, and if this is pretty typical of their sound, I'm going to have to say I don't care for it. Although I love the softer "clean" vocal part halfway though, the growling is awful to listen to.
Do they have any songs that are ALL "clean" (no growling at all)?
If you don't like the growls, then you won't like the band.
If you don't like the growls, then you won't like the band.
this.
wtf dude? What's so bad about Tommy's growls? :\ Fair enough if you don't like them but maybe this band is not for you.
Good luck on finding ownage but different music like BTBAM.
If you don't like the growls, then you won't like the band.
this.
wtf dude? What's so bad about Tommy's growls? :\ Fair enough if you don't like them but maybe this band is not for you.
Good luck on finding ownage but different music like BTBAM.
Yeah, that's what I fear - despite so many people saying how great they are, I just don't like growling at all. As far as growls go, I'm sure he's probably very top notch.
Thanks for the advice all.
I guess I'm late to the party here, but goddammit Obfuscation is an awesome song. I hope the rest of the album is this good.I hope it's better. :metal
I guess I'm late to the party here, but goddammit Obfuscation is an awesome song. I hope the rest of the album is this good.I hope it's better. :metal
Wiki: Laryngitis is an inflammation of the larynx. It causes hoarse voice or the complete loss of the voice because of irritation to the vocal folds (vocal cords).Damn, hope it's not chronic with Tommy.
Laryngitis is categorized as acute if it lasts less than a few days. Otherwise it is categorized as chronic, and may last over 3 weeks.
New Great Misdirect teaser!!
https://www.sevenstring.org/forum/general-music-discussion/98764-new-btbam-teasers.html
New Great Misdirect teaser!!
https://www.sevenstring.org/forum/general-music-discussion/98764-new-btbam-teasers.html
:2metal:
I demand the whole album now.New Great Misdirect teaser!!
https://www.sevenstring.org/forum/general-music-discussion/98764-new-btbam-teasers.html
:2metal:
Here's the only review I've saw so far (https://www.reviewrinserepeat.com/2009/10/11/between-the-buried-and-me-the-great-misdirect-review/)That review makes me more excited now!!! lol
Are there any reviews up yet? Has anyone heard it?I've heard most of the album but Disease, Injury, Madness is definitely the best that i've heard so far (i've yet to hear Desert of Song and Swim To The Moon).
This album turned out way better than I expected.Swim To The Moon is epic (so far...). I think I have an idea how I'm going to rank the songs on the album.
After first listen, I'm not sure what to think. It's great music, but overall it just feels uninspired. I think they need to go back to shorter songs, with only a few long ones here and there.
So you guys grabbed the leak? Stop spoiling it!
im liking what i hear so far guys. im waiting till the 27th tho but still nice to read ur comments.It's too early to tell but it definitely has the potential if you know what I mean.
is it better than colors? If it is, holy sh**
After first listen, I'm not sure what to think. It's great music, but overall it just feels uninspired. I think they need to go back to shorter songs, with only a few long ones here and there. At the end of each song, I couldn't remember what the beginning or middle sounded like.
I'll have a better opinion after a few more listens.
I really liked that part.After first listen, I'm not sure what to think. It's great music, but overall it just feels uninspired. I think they need to go back to shorter songs, with only a few long ones here and there. At the end of each song, I couldn't remember what the beginning or middle sounded like.
I'll have a better opinion after a few more listens.
This exactly, though I haven't heard Swim To The Moon yet.
I also feel that the guitar solo right in the middle of Obfuscation is probably the single weakest point on the album. It's the most newer DT sounding, "hey let's solo!" section that feels really forced and un-BTBAM. I really hate it.
Aww man, come on guys, Swim To The Moon was going so well but you just had to throw in that DT-like guitar/keys solo wankery in the middle.I think the album is rather good in my opinion. Not as good as Colors (right now, at least), but it's still damn good.
EDIT: Just finished. Honestly after first listen this feels like all Colors B-sides. Not really impressed.
im liking what i hear so far guys. im waiting till the 27th tho but still nice to read ur comments.LOLAMERICA. We UK folk get it on the 26th.
I didn't know that Dan Briggs played guitar in Orbs. I assumed he played bass.
BtBaM are finally clicking for me thanks to this album. Never got into any of their discography aside from Colors, and thought colors was just "kinda" good.
I'm liking this album more and more with each listen. I don't think I like it more than Colors, but at the very least its my second favorite and skirting the line for tying with first. I suppose I'll give my ranking by song as well:I haven't heard the full song, but from the teaser I'm pretty sure those are sung by Paul, not Tommy
1. Fossil Genera: A Feed From Cloud Mountain
2. Mirrors
3. Swim to the Moon
4. Desert of Song
5. Disease, Injury, Madness
6. Obfuscation
I'm sure after a while DoS will fall and Obfuscation will take its place. I've simply burned myself out on that song since it was the first taste I got of the album. With that said, DoS is a beautiful piece, I was surprised when I heard Tommy doing those lower pitched vocals. I like 'em. Very mellow, yet pretty powerful towards the middle-end. Oh yeah, and SttM will also rise, without a doubt; every time I hear the last verse of "Look into the picture"...gives me shivers and makes me want to bang my head against a nuke filled with METUL.
I'm liking this album more and more with each listen. I don't think I like it more than Colors, but at the very least its my second favorite and skirting the line for tying with first. I suppose I'll give my ranking by song as well:I haven't heard the full song, but from the teaser I'm pretty sure those are sung by Paul, not Tommy
1. Fossil Genera: A Feed From Cloud Mountain
2. Mirrors
3. Swim to the Moon
4. Desert of Song
5. Disease, Injury, Madness
6. Obfuscation
I'm sure after a while DoS will fall and Obfuscation will take its place. I've simply burned myself out on that song since it was the first taste I got of the album. With that said, DoS is a beautiful piece, I was surprised when I heard Tommy doing those lower pitched vocals. I like 'em. Very mellow, yet pretty powerful towards the middle-end. Oh yeah, and SttM will also rise, without a doubt; every time I hear the last verse of "Look into the picture"...gives me shivers and makes me want to bang my head against a nuke filled with METUL.
This album is amazing. :metalI second this!!! :metal
Anyone else really dislike how the album ends?I thought it was a bit disappointing. The part before the abrupt ending is amazing and then it just ends. It'll probably grow on me in the near future. It doesn't stop the album from being amazing!
It's so abrupt...
Anyone else really dislike how the album ends?
It's so abrupt...
Anyone else really dislike how the album ends?
It's so abrupt...
Definitely. I was doing work while listening to Swim To The Moon and I figured after a few seconds of silence there'd be another White Wall bombastic ending but I was left with just the silence. Really disappointing.
Swim to the Moon is the only track that hasn't clicked with me yet. Of all the songs, this one is most guilty of having filler riffs and the whole "been there done that" feeling. Not much stands out.I'm listening to Swim To The Moon right now and it's starting to click. If you just really listen to ths song, i think it'll click. I know what you mean though. The music is changing constantly which makes nothing stand out. I'm trying to appreciate all these different parts in the music.
Swim to the Moon is the only track that hasn't clicked with me yet. Of all the songs, this one is most guilty of having filler riffs and the whole "been there done that" feeling. Not much stands out.
This is album is a monster. :metal :metal :metal :metal :metalThis.
This is album is a monster. :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
oh god, Ants of the Sky just clicked. I didn't see what was so special before but now...
I can't remember which song, but there is a horses neigh in it and it cracks me up each time.
https://www.last.fm/event/1274647+Between+the+Buried+and+Me+at+Masquerade+on+9+January+2010
BTBAM, Cynic, Devin Townsend, Scale the Summit.
CAN HAZ IN ENGLAND
https://www.last.fm/event/1274647+Between+the+Buried+and+Me+at+Masquerade+on+9+January+2010
BTBAM, Cynic, Devin Townsend, Scale the Summit.
CAN HAZ IN ENGLAND
LOL.https://www.last.fm/event/1274647+Between+the+Buried+and+Me+at+Masquerade+on+9+January+2010
BTBAM, Cynic, Devin Townsend, Scale the Summit.
CAN HAZ IN ENGLAND
Fuck you Georgia. That is all.
https://www.last.fm/event/1274647+Between+the+Buried+and+Me+at+Masquerade+on+9+January+2010
BTBAM, Cynic, Devin Townsend, Scale the Summit.
CAN HAZ IN ENGLAND
I can't remember which song, but there is a horses neigh in it and it cracks me up each time.
I think Desert of Song is one of the best things they have done. :hat
I think Desert of Song is one of the best things they have done. :hatObfuscation and Disease, Injury, Madness, in my opinion, have some really badass parts. Swim To The Moon is very good except for the instrumental section in the middle, Desert of Song and Mirrors are very good shorter songs, and Fossil Genera is good once you get passed the intro.
Aside from that, the metal sections are getting a bit tedious now. There aren't really many particularly memorable awesome sections like there were on Colors (first half of Sun of Nothing)
Maybe it is a grower, I don't know. Swim to The Moon really should have been a bit better constructed, given it's length I was expecting something truly epic and it wasn't quite that.
Does Tommy do the first vocals in Desert of Song? Sounds like Mike Patton.
Does Tommy do the first vocals in Desert of Song? Sounds like Mike Patton.
I think thats Paul. Not sure though.
For those of you who are missing us in November... we have some good news!
WE are kicking off a full North American headlining tour this coming January. Produced by Live Nation and presented by Killer Tours, the winter whirl will uncork on January 8, 2010 in Nashville, TN and feature support from
CYNIC, DEVIN TOWNSEND PROJECT, and SCALE THE SUMMIT
Charlotte NC pre sales begin on Wednesday, October 28 at 10:00 AM EDT (password: "misdirect").
All all other sales will begin October 30 through November 1 depending on the city...
Ticketmaster and Ticket Web venues can be found HERE.
North American "The Great Misdirect" headlining tour:
(All dates include support from Cynic, Devin Townsend Project and Scale the Summit)
January 8 Nashville, TN Rocketown
January 9 Atlanta, GA The Masquerade
January 10 New Orleans, LA House of Blues
January 11 Houston, TX Meridian
January 12 Dallas, TX The Prophet Bar (Big room)
January 13 San Antonio, TX The White Rabbit
January 15 Tempe, AZ The Clubhouse
January 16 San Diego, CA House of Blues
January 17 West Hollywood, CA House of Blues
January 18 San Francisco, CA Slim’s
January 20 Denver, CO Cervantes
January 22 Louisville, KY Headliners Music Hall
January 23 Detroit, MI Magic Stick
January 24 Chicago, IL House of Blues
January 25 Cleveland, OH Peabody’s Downunder
January 26 Toronto, ON Opera House
January 27 Montreal, QC Club Soda
January 28 Boston, MA House of Blues
January 29 Clifton Park, NY Northern Lights
January 30 New York, NY The Fillmore @ Irving Plaza
January 31 Philadelphia, PA Trocadero
February 1 Baltimore, MD Sonar
February 3 St. Petersburg, FL State Theatre
February 6 Charlotte, NC The Fillmore
OH DEAR GOD YESQuoteFor those of you who are missing us in November... we have some good news!
WE are kicking off a full North American headlining tour this coming January. Produced by Live Nation and presented by Killer Tours, the winter whirl will uncork on January 8, 2010 in Nashville, TN and feature support from
CYNIC, DEVIN TOWNSEND PROJECT, and SCALE THE SUMMIT
Charlotte NC pre sales begin on Wednesday, October 28 at 10:00 AM EDT (password: "misdirect").
All all other sales will begin October 30 through November 1 depending on the city...
Ticketmaster and Ticket Web venues can be found HERE.
North American "The Great Misdirect" headlining tour:
(All dates include support from Cynic, Devin Townsend Project and Scale the Summit)
January 8 Nashville, TN Rocketown
January 9 Atlanta, GA The Masquerade
January 10 New Orleans, LA House of Blues
January 11 Houston, TX Meridian
January 12 Dallas, TX The Prophet Bar (Big room)
January 13 San Antonio, TX The White Rabbit
January 15 Tempe, AZ The Clubhouse
January 16 San Diego, CA House of Blues
January 17 West Hollywood, CA House of Blues
January 18 San Francisco, CA Slims
January 20 Denver, CO Cervantes
January 22 Louisville, KY Headliners Music Hall
January 23 Detroit, MI Magic Stick
January 24 Chicago, IL House of Blues
January 25 Cleveland, OH Peabodys Downunder
January 26 Toronto, ON Opera House
January 27 Montreal, QC Club Soda
January 28 Boston, MA House of Blues
January 29 Clifton Park, NY Northern Lights
January 30 New York, NY The Fillmore @ Irving Plaza
January 31 Philadelphia, PA Trocadero
February 1 Baltimore, MD Sonar
February 3 St. Petersburg, FL State Theatre
February 6 Charlotte, NC The Fillmore
FUCK! God dammit! No southern Ohio/Tri-state area show! Shit...
It's an hour from me but i'm already committed to something else on that day which sucks... :(FUCK! God dammit! No southern Ohio/Tri-state area show! Shit...
They're playing near Dayton in November (not sure how close that is to you). I think some of my friends are roadtripping to that show; I might go along.
Since you guys have been off topic for the last 9 or so pages, here goesDid you buy the CD or the DVD version?
I just went out and bought Colors_Live, and am on track 3. Some parts were suck, but some were really cool so far.
I went to Best Buy to pick up TGM and Epica's newest album (BB is usually pretty good with gettin albums out on time) but neither were there :sadpanda:
Since you guys have been off topic for the last 9 or so pages, here goesDid you buy the CD or the DVD version?
I just went out and bought Colors_Live, and am on track 3. Some parts were suck, but some were really cool so far.
Since you guys have been off topic for the last 9 or so pages, here goes
I just went out and bought Colors_Live, and am on track 3. Some parts were suck, but some were really cool so far.
Any suggestions for a song?
It's such a shame that their instrumental and mellow sections are so much better than their growling ones.
It's such a shame that their instrumental and mellow sections are so much better than their growling ones.
You're not going to make friends in this thread by talking like that. :P
Listened to Selkies. The "sweet relief" part reminded me heavily of Porcupine Tree, and that makes me a happy. The guitar solo was great. Basically the whole thing was. It's such a shame that their instrumental and mellow sections are so much better than their growling ones.
Try listening to their newer stuff lolIt's such a shame that their instrumental and mellow sections are so much better than their growling ones.
You're not going to make friends in this thread by talking like that. :P
Didn't think so. Noone thinks that the growling passages are a bit on the long side?
It's such a shame that their instrumental and mellow sections are so much better than their growling ones.
You're not going to make friends in this thread by talking like that. :P
Didn't think so. Noone thinks that the growling passages are a bit on the long side?
Listening to TGM for the first time right now. Right now I'm on "Disease, Injury, Madness". I have to say, they definitely seem to have lost their core elements on this album.
RMV, there's only one issue of Colors_Live. 2 disc set (CD+DVD)....the both one? It's a CD/DVD thing.Since you guys have been off topic for the last 9 or so pages, here goesDid you buy the CD or the DVD version?
I just went out and bought Colors_Live, and am on track 3. Some parts were suck, but some were really cool so far.
He's right. Nothing to worry about. Colors_Live has a second set on the DVD part with some older songs and they play those songs flawlessly.RMV, there's only one issue of Colors_Live. 2 disc set (CD+DVD)....the both one? It's a CD/DVD thing.Since you guys have been off topic for the last 9 or so pages, here goesDid you buy the CD or the DVD version?
I just went out and bought Colors_Live, and am on track 3. Some parts were suck, but some were really cool so far.
Nothing to worry about sonata! :tup
Swim to the Moon is like White Walls older brother moving back home after college. Incredibly good, can't get enough. Can not wait for the tour
Yeah, I remember struggling to enjoy Tommy's growling, but you just get used to the heavy sections waiting for the awesome mellow parts, then suddenly you like the heavy parts too.
It's interesting see this process happen to my friend gradually.
Also, fuck you guys, Swim to the Moon is amaaaaaazing, especially the last vocal lines:
(sung)
Slide into the water
Become one with the sea.
Life seems so much smaller.
(growling)
SWIIIIIIIIIM TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
edit: quoted for truth from a lyrics website comments:QuoteSwim to the Moon is like White Walls older brother moving back home after college. Incredibly good, can't get enough. Can not wait for the tour
Yeah, I remember struggling to enjoy Tommy's growling, but you just get used to the heavy sections waiting for the awesome mellow parts, then suddenly you like the heavy parts too.
It's interesting see this process happen to my friend gradually.
Also, fuck you guys, Swim to the Moon is amaaaaaazing, especially the last vocal lines:
(sung)
Slide into the water
Become one with the sea.
Life seems so much smaller.
(growling)
SWIIIIIIIIIM TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
edit: quoted for truth from a lyrics website comments:QuoteSwim to the Moon is like White Walls older brother moving back home after college. Incredibly good, can't get enough. Can not wait for the tour
I completely agree, it's become my favorite on the album. I especially love the (what I believe is..) the first verse of "Slide into the water", where each line is sung at first, then finished with growling. :D at the quote, well said.
edit: quoted for truth from a lyrics website comments:QuoteSwim to the Moon is like White Walls older brother moving back home after college. Incredibly good, can't get enough. Can not wait for the tour
edit: quoted for truth from a lyrics website comments:QuoteSwim to the Moon is like White Walls older brother moving back home after college. Incredibly good, can't get enough. Can not wait for the tour
Except White Walls doesn't get caught by his mom masturbating to gay porn midway through the song.
Paul Waggoner – guitar, vocals on "Desert of Song"
Wiki says Paul Waggoner was on vocals for Desert Of Song.He's the one that sings first and it was obviously to me when i first heard it.QuotePaul Waggoner guitar, vocals on "Desert of Song"
Could that explain the vocal difference?
edit: quoted for truth from a lyrics website comments:QuoteSwim to the Moon is like White Walls older brother moving back home after college. Incredibly good, can't get enough. Can not wait for the tour
Except White Walls doesn't get caught by his mom masturbating to gay porn midway through the song.
No, white walls just has about 3 times as much generic metal.
edit: quoted for truth from a lyrics website comments:QuoteSwim to the Moon is like White Walls older brother moving back home after college. Incredibly good, can't get enough. Can not wait for the tour
Except White Walls doesn't get caught by his mom masturbating to gay porn midway through the song.
Truth. The last few minutes of White Walls are some of the best last minutes of an album I've ever heardedit: quoted for truth from a lyrics website comments:QuoteSwim to the Moon is like White Walls older brother moving back home after college. Incredibly good, can't get enough. Can not wait for the tour
Except White Walls doesn't get caught by his mom masturbating to gay porn midway through the song.
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
White Walls > Swim to the Moon
White Walls has less filler, and a much, much better ending.
Generic to what? I guess I'm not too familiar to the genre so it sounds all new to me. And at least it's cohesive and interesting whereas half of Swim To The Moon is a wasteland of shoddily throw together riffs.
Don't give a shit about the first 2 albums
Don't give a shit about the first 2 albums
:facepalm:
Don't give a shit about the first 2 albums, the Alaska lineup is practically a new band.
I actually like ALL the albums and i rank them like this:Good to know :tup
Colors
The Great Misdirect
The Silent Circus
Alaska
Self-Titled
I was starting to think I was the only one who liked all the albums. :lolI actually like ALL the albums and i rank them like this:Good to know :tup
Colors
The Great Misdirect
The Silent Circus
Alaska
Self-Titled
I was starting to think I was the only one who liked all the albums. :lolI actually like ALL the albums and i rank them like this:Good to know :tup
Colors
The Great Misdirect
The Silent Circus
Alaska
Self-Titled
K I finally listened to TGM. 4/5 and maybe my second favourite, must listen again so I can rank it with Alaska.
Don't give a shit about the first 2 albums, the Alaska lineup is practically a new band.
:rollinI was starting to think I was the only one who liked all the albums. :lolI actually like ALL the albums and i rank them like this:Good to know :tup
Colors
The Great Misdirect
The Silent Circus
Alaska
Self-TitledK I finally listened to TGM. 4/5 and maybe my second favourite, must listen again so I can rank it with Alaska.
Don't give a shit about the first 2 albums, the Alaska lineup is practically a new band.
Did I miss something here? :|:rollinI was starting to think I was the only one who liked all the albums. :lolI actually like ALL the albums and i rank them like this:Good to know :tup
Colors
The Great Misdirect
The Silent Circus
Alaska
Self-TitledK I finally listened to TGM. 4/5 and maybe my second favourite, must listen again so I can rank it with Alaska.
Don't give a shit about the first 2 albums, the Alaska lineup is practically a new band.
AlaskaThe self-titled is not the greatest quality but the music is pretty good, imo. Shevanel Cut A Flip is my favorite from the self-titled.
The Silent Circus
Colors
The Great Misdirect
I have not listened to their self titled.
Haha a guy on the radio just used the word 'obfuscation'. I didn't even know it was a real word :lol
I think my favorite part of the album is the ending of Fossil Genera.
WE MUST MOVE OOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN!
*super high falsetto* OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
I just can't get into them before they had a prog aspect.
DT's first albums (post-Labrie...of course).
DT's first albums (post-Labrie...of course).
wat
I think the 'post-Labrie' part trigged Sigs' signature phrase.
Well post means after, but usually it indicates the end of something, so saying post-labrie would generally mean a time after Labrie left the band. post-Dominici is probably the better way of putting it. But I know what you mean now.
Thanks for the comments, though. I'll definitely try to get into their older stuff. What would you recommend? Working in reverse order from Colors?
Haha I was gonna say, you do know what that song is about right? But I whole-heartedly agree, the first two albums are great, especially the self-titled in my opinion. There are some moments on The Silent Circus that bring it down a bit for me (Shevanel Take 2 for example) but the first I love all the way through. My favourite song has to be Shevanel Cut A Flip. I remember listening to the album for the first time when I was on holiday on a boat, and I was kinda falling asleep with my headphones on, and when the outtro to that song started I kinda drifted into this lucid dream, half awake, half asleep. It was amazing, I never wanted it to end.
Good thing she couldn't understand the lyrics.
Alright, I've given Colors_Live three listens.
Parts I love:
When they sound awesome and metal
When they sound progressive
When the vocalist doesn't do his shitty growls/screams
Parts I hate:
When the whole band just goes into full on man-love breakdown mode and decides to have anal fornication in nothing but their socks. (I'm looking at you, half of Foam Born II)
Haha I was gonna say, you do know what that song is about right? But I whole-heartedly agree, the first two albums are great, especially the self-titled in my opinion. There are some moments on The Silent Circus that bring it down a bit for me (Shevanel Take 2 for example) but the first I love all the way through. My favourite song has to be Shevanel Cut A Flip. I remember listening to the album for the first time when I was on holiday on a boat, and I was kinda falling asleep with my headphones on, and when the outtro to that song started I kinda drifted into this lucid dream, half awake, half asleep. It was amazing, I never wanted it to end.
Good thing she couldn't understand the lyrics.
By the way, if you don't have it you should pick up the Colors_Live DVD, some great performances of early songs on there, and a few on the bonus DVD on The Silent Circus re-issue.
Alaska and after is most important.
Stylistically, they've embraced change a lot. I think it's a good thing coz we got Colors and now TGM. Alaska and TGM are great for singular song albums. Do I have to like every album of one of my favourite bands? Nobody has ever said that before. Just one of the few bands in which I feel this way.
Alright, I've given Colors_Live three listens.
Parts I love:
When they sound awesome and metal
When they sound progressive
When the vocalist doesn't do his shitty growls/screams
Parts I hate:
When the whole band just goes into full on man-love breakdown mode and decides to have anal fornication in nothing but their socks. (I'm looking at you, half of Foam Born II)
Tio, I just think that track is a bit corny, for want of a better word. I think it has to do with the fact that when I was getting into BTBAM, before Alaska came out, this was the only track they had recorded that was totally mellow all the way through, and I still thought of them as a technical hardcore band. Looking back I can see that this was one of their earlier attempts to bring a new direction into their music, but I guess I still hold the opinion that it doesn't quite fit with the rest of the album.
(I'm looking at you, half of Foam Born II)
I just finished listening to their S/T all the way through and it was amazing, it's the first time I really listened to Tommy rather than try and focus on the music. Insanely talented band.
I just finished listening to their S/T all the way through and it was amazing, it's the first time I really listened to Tommy rather than try and focus on the music. Insanely talented band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snGxAUBMZHYTimestamp? I'm not sure what you mean by "octavarium thing" either.
What's that octavarium thing doing there?
Looked like an Octavarium sticker under his cymbal the entire vid.Which cymbal?
Looked like an Octavarium sticker under his cymbal the entire vid.Which cymbal?
I really don't see the relation to Octavarium...Looked like an Octavarium sticker under his cymbal the entire vid.Which cymbal?
Under the china on the left. I think he means the cover of 8vm. Yeah those are knobs...
I really don't see the relation to Octavarium...Looked like an Octavarium sticker under his cymbal the entire vid.Which cymbal?
Under the china on the left. I think he means the cover of 8vm. Yeah those are knobs...
Oh, ok. I must be one that doesn't see any resemblence.I really don't see the relation to Octavarium...Looked like an Octavarium sticker under his cymbal the entire vid.Which cymbal?
Under the china on the left. I think he means the cover of 8vm. Yeah those are knobs...
The knobs vaguely resemble the hanging balls on the 8VM cover. That's about it though.
Does anyone know the chord progression of the acoustic guitar from 8:00 onwards in Fossil Genera?
I've become like severely addicted to this band over the past few days.Same here but it's been a few weeks instead.
How is "Ad a Dglgmut" pronounced by the way?As it looks
add a digglemutt
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh....YATTA!!!
The first time I saw BTBAM the setlist was:
Selkies
Prequel to the Sequel
Viridian
White Walls
Hopefully they'l be able to top that in January.
Is that Tommy at the part around 10:42 in Fossil Genera? I just noticed it today and it sounds nuts if it's him.
Is that Tommy at the part around 10:42 in Fossil Genera? I just noticed it today and it sounds nuts if it's him.
Is that Tommy at the part around 10:42 in Fossil Genera? I just noticed it today and it sounds nuts if it's him.
The really high part or the 'we must move on' part after it?
Nice, kind of reminds me of mine. I mean, technically I have seen then, but it was for Progressive Nation '08 at Terminal 5 (NY), so they played two friggin' songs: Ants Of The Sky and White Walls. Albeit, two amazing songs that made me half-way bone the guy in front of me, being jam-packed into that tiny ass venue. But it was fucking awesome. That said, it makes me even more excited to actually go to a concert for them alone.
I still think back over a year ago when I first digested Colors and wanted to explore more. My friend played me All Bodies and was fairly :-\ throughout the whole thing. It's amazing what happens when you finally give certain music some time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWG5lW9EPGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWG5lW9EPGI
...what did I just watch? :huh:
I watched the Giles music videos on TSC reissue. They're terriblehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWG5lW9EPGI
...what did I just watch? :huh:
Giles
A side project of Tommy's.
I watched the Giles music videos on TSC reissue. They're terriblehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWG5lW9EPGI
...what did I just watch? :huh:
Giles
A side project of Tommy's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhczR-CLyAE&feature=related
hahah
White Walls>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Swim to the MoonWhadda think of the "keyboard solo"?
It's not even close
Is anyone else still disappointed about this album even after a few weeks? There wasn't a whole lot I really enjoyed listening to. The album as a whole sounds like a mess.
Really? The songwriting screamed of Colors B-sides. And yes the keyboard solo is horrendous.
Really? The songwriting screamed of Colors B-sides. And yes the keyboard solo is horrendous.Really? I found that Fossil Genera and DIIM are two unique enough songs. Obfuscation, yeah could fit comfortably on Colors, but I personally find it boring.
Really? The songwriting screamed of Colors B-sides. And yes the keyboard solo is horrendous.Really? I found that Fossil Genera and DIIM are two unique enough songs. Obfuscation, yeah could fit comfortably on Colors, but I personally find it boring.
In other news the Deluxe Edition package is atrocious, I mean the slipcover is paper mache, and the main CD WILL be mistaken for Insurgentes very soon. The DVD is pretty cool however. Can't wait till there finished on Victory. They even fucked the booklet up; the song lyrics are in the wrong order. And the artwork looks fairly amateurish. Bit of waste for 16.95 IMO. In terms of packaging. Music is worth it.
Really? The songwriting screamed of Colors B-sides. And yes the keyboard solo is horrendous.Really? I found that Fossil Genera and DIIM are two unique enough songs. Obfuscation, yeah could fit comfortably on Colors, but I personally find it boring.
In other news the Deluxe Edition package is atrocious, I mean the slipcover is paper mache, and the main CD WILL be mistaken for Insurgentes very soon. The DVD is pretty cool however. Can't wait till there finished on Victory. They even fucked the booklet up; the song lyrics are in the wrong order. And the artwork looks fairly amateurish. Bit of waste for 16.95 IMO. In terms of packaging. Music is worth it.
That's like $27.95 AUD, you were pretty much ripped off..
Hrm, perhaps, but lets leave poor Colors alone. Its suffering from TMAD (Too Much Attention Disorder).
A point that I very rarely see brought up BTBAM discussions; lyrics. Tbh, I think there well above the standard in prog today.
Hrm, perhaps, but lets leave poor Colors alone. Its suffering from TMAD (Too Much Attention Disorder).
A point that I very rarely see brought up BTBAM discussions; lyrics. Tbh, I think there well above the standard in prog today.
Not to be a typical, "ignorant" metalcore vocal newbie but I seriously can't understand 95% of what Tommy says. I can usually only pick out the song titles if I listen close and parts of Informal Gluttony.
I can actually understand his growls most of the time.
Just finished listening to The Great Misdirect. Swim to the Moon is far and away the best song on the album (Even with that horrendous keyboard solo), the rest was meh.
Just finished listening to The Great Misdirect. Swim to the Moon is far and away the best song on the album (Even with that horrendous keyboard solo), the rest was meh.
What is this i dont even
Just finished listening to The Great Misdirect. Swim to the Moon is far and away the best song on the album (Even with that horrendous keyboard solo), the rest was meh.
What is this i dont even
Just finished listening to The Great Misdirect. Swim to the Moon is far and away the best song on the album (Even with that horrendous keyboard solo), the rest was meh.
What is this i dont even
Just finished listening to The Great Misdirect. Swim to the Moon is far and away the best song on the album (Even with that horrendous keyboard solo), the rest was meh.
I accidentally the store.
Exactly.QuoteI accidentally the store.
:lol
Anyway, TGM is great, and it's right up there near Colors, although Colors is better.
Is anyone else still disappointed about this album even after a few weeks? There wasn't a whole lot I really enjoyed listening to. The album as a whole sounds like a mess.I agree. I think it's their weakest album.
Is anyone else still disappointed about this album even after a few weeks? There wasn't a whole lot I really enjoyed listening to. The album as a whole sounds like a mess.I agree. I think it's their weakest album.
I think it's because they've tried so hard to make it epic because of the huge expectations people had for this album, whereas it seemed like Colors just sort of happened naturally.Is anyone else still disappointed about this album even after a few weeks? There wasn't a whole lot I really enjoyed listening to. The album as a whole sounds like a mess.I agree. I think it's their weakest album.
I agree as well. It's not that it's a bad album; I was just expecting so much more.
Because it's not on the same level as Colors. It's like a stripped down version of Colors with poorer arrangements and subpar flow. I guess it'd make sense for the fans of just Colors to love the crap out of it but it's a whole nother world from Alaska and the earlier stuff. I don't wanna make it sound like there's nothing good on this album because there are lots of great riffs and sections but the way they were pieced together is putrid.
Well I was FINALLY able to get a copy today! (2-disc edition :tup)
So im going to listen to it tonight and I'll report back
Well I was FINALLY able to get a copy today! (2-disc edition :tup)
So im going to listen to it tonight and I'll report back
:neverusethis: How's the packaging eh?
Well I was FINALLY able to get a copy today! (2-disc edition :tup)
So im going to listen to it tonight and I'll report back
:neverusethis: How's the packaging eh?
Well the booklet falling out wasnt very expected :censored Where do I put this thing? Lol
I just found out yesterday that BTBAM was playing a show in my town... on the 8th of Nov. >:(They are great live. I saw them Nov. 7th in Dayton and they were very tight, especially on the older stuff.
How is the band live?
^^^ Agreed. I would probably put him above even MP in technicality.
How is the band live?
^^^ Agreed. I would probably put him above even MP in technicality.
No way. But he's still awesome.
^^^ Agreed. I would probably put him above even MP in technicality.
No way. But he's still awesome.
Maybe not MP back in his prime, but I definitely think he's got more skills than MP does now.
but blake is just above him.
Their was a 2 disc edition of TGM? What did it have on it?
I just looked it up and the description said its the album in 5.1 and a 45 minute documentary/interview relating to the album.This. The 45-minute documentary is actually quite hilarious. :lol :lol
Anyone see the video to Obfuscation yet? It's absolutely insane.What kind of video is it? Music video?
Anyone see the video to Obfuscation yet? It's absolutely insane.What kind of video is it? Music video?
Anyone see the video to Obfuscation yet? It's absolutely insane.What kind of video is it? Music video?
No, a short film ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9wc03FW2Uo
Anyone see the video to Obfuscation yet? It's absolutely insane.What kind of video is it? Music video?
No, a short film ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9wc03FW2Uo
My thoughts exactly.Anyone see the video to Obfuscation yet? It's absolutely insane.What kind of video is it? Music video?
No, a short film ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9wc03FW2Uo
WTF was that? :lol
Had to stop a minute and a half in. Seems like a waste.
i wish blake had a video for each song, like MP does. not just prequel to the sequel and obfuscation
Thread revival.
Does anyone here actually know what the hell Colors is about?
Thread revival.
Does anyone here actually know what the hell Colors is about?
Thread revival.
Does anyone here actually know what the hell Colors is about?
For the last time, Colors is not a concept album.
Thread revival.
Does anyone here actually know what the hell Colors is about?
For the last time, Colors is not a concept album.
Thread revival.
Does anyone here actually know what the hell Colors is about?
For the last time, Colors is not a concept album.
Well, the band consider it to be one. Personally, I have no idea what it's about so I'd wait to see any explanation before I decide whether I consider it one.
The truth comes out, BTBAM all have no idea what they are doing and just write random shit.
The truth comes out, BTBAM all have no idea what they are doing and just write random shit.
That's possible what Paul meant. I have no idea. I'll take your and their word for it, though, because even if Colors did have a story or some kind of all-encompasing "theme" I don't know what it would be or how I would find out.
Yeah, so I got Colors today.
It's kinda cool.
Yeah, so I got Colors today.
It's kinda cool.
Its gonna take a while to fully click, but when it does, its an intense experience.
I'll just keep waiting.
They're like a fancy Opeth
I'm not sure how well Cynic's music is going to translate over to a live setting. It will either be awesome or boring as hell.
I'm with Gwii, mix it up or at least play All Bodies instead of Alaska.
Roboturner = :metal
Although I love BTBAM, I feel like they're getting to be overrated.
Still, they're easily one of my favorite bands today.
it's all a mish-mash of hardcore stuff that doesn't flow well and is hard to stay memorable.
it's all a mish-mash of hardcore stuff that doesn't flow well and is hard to stay memorable.
Yet you like The Great Misdirect and Colors?
Poseidon implying Colors isn't memorable.
Poseidon implying Colors isn't memorable.
SLEEEEEEP ON
FLYYYYYY ON
IN YOUR MIND
YOU CAN FLY
Poseidon implying Colors isn't memorable.
SLEEEEEEP ON
FLYYYYYY ON
IN YOUR MIND
YOU CAN FLY
I believe you mean
A SPACE MAN! THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID I AM!
A Spaaaaaaaaaaceeeeeeeeeemaaaaaaaan!
A Spaaaaaaaaaaceeeeeeeeeemaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
Post-Colors BTBAM is great.
All BTBAM is great except Swim to the Moon
It's boring, simple as that.
I can't really get into much of The Great Misdirect, if I'm being honest.
I can't really get into much of The Great Misdirect, if I'm being honest.
Yeah, its ok. Not that outstanding though
I can't really get into much of The Great Misdirect, if I'm being honest.
Yeah, its ok. Not that outstanding though
Iaindeed.
I'm still failing to see any problem with STTM, let alone one that makes it as terrible as you all make it out to be. Maybe you're being overly harsh because their other stuff is so great in your minds?
I can't really get into much of The Great Misdirect, if I'm being honest.
Yeah, its ok. Not that outstanding though
Iaindeed.
It has a lot of memorable parts in the album, but theres just too much "waste" in the songs to get to those parts.
Any particular setlist that i should expect?
I'm still failing to see any problem with STTM, let alone one that makes it as terrible as you all make it out to be. Maybe you're being overly harsh because their other stuff is so great in your minds?
Aside from having tons of unnecessary parts the songs worst offense is that it doesn't sound like a BTBAM song at all.
I would've thought the lead singer from Cynic high out of his fucking skull making people do yoga would've been a highlight.
I like Swim to the Moon. The intro is awesome, and the solo section is such a great pay-off. Ending could be better. I can see what people are saying about the keyboard solo. It's okay, but it's not really up to par on a technical level. It sounds kinda amatuerish.
I like Swim to the Moon. The intro is awesome, and the solo section is such a great pay-off. Ending could be better. I can see what people are saying about the keyboard solo. It's okay, but it's not really up to par on a technical level. It sounds kinda amatuerish.
I like Swim to the Moon. The intro is awesome, and the solo section is such a great pay-off. Ending could be better. I can see what people are saying about the keyboard solo. It's okay, but it's not really up to par on a technical level. It sounds kinda amatuerish.:lol are you joking about the keyboard solo? If you had watched the DVD making of, Tommy was just playing random crap with his elbows, feet etc :rollin they kept it just for the lulz
I like Swim to the Moon. The intro is awesome, and the solo section is such a great pay-off. Ending could be better. I can see what people are saying about the keyboard solo. It's okay, but it's not really up to par on a technical level. It sounds kinda amatuerish.:lol are you joking about the keyboard solo? If you had watched the DVD making of, Tommy was just playing random crap with his elbows, feet etc :rollin they kept it just for the lulz
Actually, as I'm sure you know but others might not, he does improvise the solo, and he is just messing around and they decide "eh, it sounds pretty cool," so they keep it, but then they don't keep the bit where they ask Tommy if he wants to double it, and he's messing around with his feet and ellbows and stuff.I like Swim to the Moon. The intro is awesome, and the solo section is such a great pay-off. Ending could be better. I can see what people are saying about the keyboard solo. It's okay, but it's not really up to par on a technical level. It sounds kinda amatuerish.:lol are you joking about the keyboard solo? If you had watched the DVD making of, Tommy was just playing random crap with his elbows, feet etc :rollin they kept it just for the lulz
:facepalm: You realize he wasn't actually playing in that video? He was just pretending.
Seeing BTBAM tomorrow with DTP :caffeine:
Seeing BTBAM tomorrow with DTP :caffeine:
I like Swim to the Moon. The intro is awesome, and the solo section is such a great pay-off. Ending could be better. I can see what people are saying about the keyboard solo. It's okay, but it's not really up to par on a technical level. It sounds kinda amatuerish.:lol are you joking about the keyboard solo? If you had watched the DVD making of, Tommy was just playing random crap with his elbows, feet etc :rollin they kept it just for the lulz
O.M.G.
I absolutely LOVED yesterday!!! (Keep in mind, this is my first "metal/heavy" concert)
I didnt expect so much moshing, etc during BTBAM, but found that once it started, I was caught up in the energy of it.
Funny story; my older brother, whose in his late-20's, is accustomed to rap/hip hop concerts, and used to be a football player, somehow ended up on the edge of the pit. I was watching him, and I saw in his eyes that he really wanted to get in the pit with all the dancers, moshers, etc. So this being his first mosh pit experience, he eventually got pushed in and immediately just started mixing hip hop dance moves with moshing. He was actually really into it, and he started getting into the whole "mosh culture" (he saw that as soon as someone fell, everyone stopped and picked them up, so he started doing that too). Anyways, we both absolutely loved it, and he's extremely excited to go to another metal concert.
Besides BTBAM, the rest of the bands werent too bad, DT being the other outstanding act. I got a vid of him dancing and stuff onstage before they started, and I'll get it up here later. Before Cynic could start, their drummer was missing something for his hi-hat so they were buying time wth some weird chant/guitar feedback song (during which I sung "In the Jungle" and "The Circle of Life" to the laughter of many).
Anyways, definately a show worth going to and I gotta say BTBAM was the highlight for me, though I really didnt think they would be.
'Swim to the Moon' finally clicked with me. It's actually a very well structured song, and it's epic as hell.
Just listened to it again. Smart move to include both their best instrumental section + breakdown, placed right after eachother. That was truly a blast to listen to.
'Swim to the Moon' finally clicked with me. It's actually a very well structured song, and it's epic as hell.
Just listened to it again. Smart move to include both their best instrumental section + breakdown, placed right after eachother. That was truly a blast to listen to.
Please don't tell me you're talking about that atrociously boring ending section. I mean the band even looked bored playing it.
I like Swim to the Moon
Oh man, Backwards Marathon is so good.
It's raaaaining
It's raaaaaaaining
It's raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaing
:metal
Oh man, Backwards Marathon is so good.
It's raaaaining
It's raaaaaaaining
It's raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaing
O.M.G.
I absolutely LOVED yesterday!!! (Keep in mind, this is my first "metal/heavy" concert)
I didnt expect so much moshing, etc during BTBAM, but found that once it started, I was caught up in the energy of it.
Funny story; my older brother, whose in his late-20's, is accustomed to rap/hip hop concerts, and used to be a football player, somehow ended up on the edge of the pit. I was watching him, and I saw in his eyes that he really wanted to get in the pit with all the dancers, moshers, etc. So this being his first mosh pit experience, he eventually got pushed in and immediately just started mixing hip hop dance moves with moshing. He was actually really into it, and he started getting into the whole "mosh culture" (he saw that as soon as someone fell, everyone stopped and picked them up, so he started doing that too). Anyways, we both absolutely loved it, and he's extremely excited to go to another metal concert.
Besides BTBAM, the rest of the bands werent too bad, DT being the other outstanding act. I got a vid of him dancing and stuff onstage before they started, and I'll get it up here later. Before Cynic could start, their drummer was missing something for his hi-hat so they were buying time wth some weird chant/guitar feedback song (during which I sung "In the Jungle" and "The Circle of Life" to the laughter of many).
Anyways, definately a show worth going to and I gotta say BTBAM was the highlight for me, though I really didnt think they would be.
:metalOh man, Backwards Marathon is so good.
It's raaaaining
It's raaaaaaaining
It's raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaing
:metal
RORORORORRO
:metalOh man, Backwards Marathon is so good.
It's raaaaining
It's raaaaaaaining
It's raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaing
:metal
RORORORORRO
Backwards Marathon is my favourite song off Alaska. Not many people seem to share this opinion though :sadpanda:
:metalOh man, Backwards Marathon is so good.
It's raaaaining
It's raaaaaaaining
It's raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaing
:metal
RORORORORRO
Backwards Marathon is my favourite song off Alaska. Not many people seem to share this opinion though :sadpanda:
Well of course they're not going to share that opinion when it's matched up against songs like All Bodies and All Bodies.
:2metal:
the first vid ive seen with the camera on blake during the swim to the moon solos
enjoy
around 6:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBuiGYdvFJc
check out the other vids from that person, its a full set with multiple camera angles and awesome sound. sorry if this was posted before, i dont feel like looking back in the thread.
Or just the fact that for the most part it's poorly arranged and pockmarked with uninteresting riffs. Mirrors, DIM (for the most part), and Desert of Song stand out but the rest....eh.
I'd normally get annoyed that you missed Alaska but once you settle into BTBAM, get that and prepare to be destroyed by All Bodies.
It entertains me to see you fail.
It entertains me to see this thread because I made it and I don't really like anything that isn't Prequel to the Sequel.
First two albums aren't very good in my opinion. They got good on Alaska, when they changed to their current lineup and Tommy's vocals improved significantly.
While variety is cool, those REETREET pig grunt things never sound good. I'm so glad he got rid of them.
Yeah, the most obvious example (I think) is Croakies and Boatshoes, and the lyrics (and indeed the whole song) are so tongue in cheek it's unreal. Great track thoughWhile variety is cool, those REETREET pig grunt things never sound good. I'm so glad he got rid of them.
I can think of like 3 parts where he uses those, and I think they sound good (they're used in a tongue in cheek way most of the time anyways).
After sneaking some listens of Colors in at work, I can say it is definitely growing on me. White Walls is pure magic, that outro I can listen to over and over.woo a fellow Aussie :biggrin:
Had a quick listen to Silent Circus also, sounds quite good, definitely more raw than Colors or TGM. Mordecai is amazing!
The DVD is impressing me more also. You cannot doubt their live performances. Again, White Walls is just amazing!!
Sounds like I need to pick Alaska up also. I will look for it on the weekend. I must add it was funny, I have been looking for these guys cd's for the last couple of weekends. The local cd chain JB Hi FI, never had any every time I looked and it was starting to confuse me, as their stock is quite varied. So, I got knocked down when I actually looked around the store and found BTBAM listen under 'Punk/Emo section!!
After sneaking some listens of Colors in at work, I can say it is definitely growing on me. White Walls is pure magic, that outro I can listen to over and over.woo a fellow Aussie :biggrin:
Had a quick listen to Silent Circus also, sounds quite good, definitely more raw than Colors or TGM. Mordecai is amazing!
The DVD is impressing me more also. You cannot doubt their live performances. Again, White Walls is just amazing!!
Sounds like I need to pick Alaska up also. I will look for it on the weekend. I must add it was funny, I have been looking for these guys cd's for the last couple of weekends. The local cd chain JB Hi FI, never had any every time I looked and it was starting to confuse me, as their stock is quite varied. So, I got knocked down when I actually looked around the store and found BTBAM listen under 'Punk/Emo section!!
Can anyone tell me if there is a DVD that comes with Alaska? If so what is the content, many thanks.
The Silent Circus bonus DVD is killer BTW.
Can anyone tell me if there is a DVD that comes with Alaska? If so what is the content, many thanks.
Alaska does not have a DVD.
Can anyone tell me if there is a DVD that comes with Alaska? If so what is the content, many thanks.
Alaska does not have a DVD.
It does, I've seen it.
I think it's just some shitty promotion DVD from their label though.
I've been listening to TGM more and more and I've made a discovery...
Am I alone when I say Mirrors is the best song on the album?
I honestly think Desert of Song is the best on the album.
I just dont find anything about DIM memorable or enjoyable.
I hope Tommy brings back some variety to his vocals.
I hope Tommy brings back some variety to his vocals.
I've been listening to TGM more and more and I've made a discovery...
Am I alone when I say Mirrors is the best song on the album?
Oh, and White Walls could be the best song ever.
who else here thinks that TGM>Colors ?
These guys are coming to a club about 2 miles from me...I am not going. :)
who else here thinks that TGM>Colors ?
These guys are coming to a club about 2 miles from me...I am not going. :)
Oh, and White Walls could be the best song ever.
Wait till you see it live. The climax is amazing
These guys are coming to a club about 2 miles from me...I am not going. :)There's a reason why you're entire Facebook wall is nothing but: "N00B!".
These guys are coming to a club about 2 miles from me...I am not going. :)
These guys are coming to a club about 2 miles from me...I am not going. :)
These guys are coming to a club about 2 miles from me...I am not going. :)(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/prostheticsummer/12645390901031.jpg)
These guys are coming to a club about 2 miles from me...I am not going. :)(https://i40.tinypic.com/11aelp1.png)
These guys are coming to a club about 2 miles from me...I am not going. :)
These guys are coming to a club about 2 miles from me...I am not going. :)
Only being a fan of these guys about six weeks. I'm really digging colors. I'm starting to see what all the fuss is about. It takes time for each song to sink in but today listening to Ants of the Sky again, its really sounding great.
Oh, and White Walls could be the best song ever.
So, is anybody going to the London show?Yeah got my ticket today, and I bought a spare just in case
Edit: To find tickets on Ticketweb I had to type in "Between the Buried & Me". It didn't find anything for "Between the Buried and Me"
Colors is rapidly becoming my favorite album of all time. I can't stop listening to it; as it's one of those albums where you discover something new with every listen. Truly remarkable piece of work.
Colors is rapidly becoming my favorite album of all time. I can't stop listening to it; as it's one of those albums where you discover something new with every listen. Truly remarkable piece of work.
And it'smuch better than The Great Misdirect.
Colors is rapidly becoming my favorite album of all time. I can't stop listening to it; as it's one of those albums where you discover something new with every listen. Truly remarkable piece of work.
And it'smuch better than The Great Misdirect.
I agree :tup
TGM still doesn't do a whole lot for me. I think it's their weakest album by far.
TGM still doesn't do a whole lot for me. I think it's their weakest album by far.
TGM still doesn't do a whole lot for me. I think it's their weakest album by far.
TGM still doesn't do a whole lot for me. I think it's their weakest album by far.
Too true. I can't remember the last time I listened to it.
FACT: 97% of those still opining over Colors are just remembering the impact of hearing such an unorthodox album for the first time.
A thorough listen of The Great Misdirect will show it as the true superior album.
FACT: 97% of those still opining over Colors are just remembering the impact of hearing such an unorthodox album for the first time.
A thorough listen of The Great Misdirect will show it as the true superior album.
:rollin When I first heard Colors it didn't click with me at all, so my love for the album is hardly due to some nostalgic view of my first (or even first half dozen) listens. It's simply a superior album in every way.
If I could choose one word it would be "focused."
If I could choose one word it would be "focused."
Geeze I was hoping you would elaborate as to what makes Colors better... but you would rather be negative... I'll move on from you now.:lol What?
Their touring again. Lineup is:
UNDEROATH
blessthefall
As I Lay Dying
War Of Ages
Cancer Bats
Between the Buried and Me
The Acacia Strain
ARCHITECTS
I don't know if I'll do this one. Only bands I would enjoy would be BTBAM and Acacia Strain.
That's a uh.... Shit lineup.
Their touring again. Lineup is:I would only enjoy BTBAM and As I Lay Dying
UNDEROATH
blessthefall
As I Lay Dying
War Of Ages
Cancer Bats
Between the Buried and Me
The Acacia Strain
ARCHITECTS
I don't know if I'll do this one. Only bands I would enjoy would be BTBAM and Acacia Strain.
TGM is in fact their weakest album to date.
I'm going to see these guys on the stop in Columbus on July 23rd. I do agree it's a shit lineup though. On my ticket, it says As I Lay Dying, Underoath, BTBAM. I thought they were going to be playing third to last with As I Lay Dying last. I might not stay 'til the end now.
As I Lay Dying is playing third to last. I will be leaving after them if this is the lineup on the tour.I'm going to see these guys on the stop in Columbus on July 23rd. I do agree it's a shit lineup though. On my ticket, it says As I Lay Dying, Underoath, BTBAM. I thought they were going to be playing third to last with As I Lay Dying last. I might not stay 'til the end now.
But AILD are the best metalcore band around :huh:
Spun their S/T for the first time in a while, and I have come to the conclusion that TGM is in fact their weakest album to date.
Awesome, for me to poop on.
Ah ok.And maybe a better album ;)
Well, we can hope for a better lineup next time around
Like I've said, I can understand why some don't like TGM, but it's definitely better than Alaska.:rollin :rollin :rollin
Like I've said, I can understand why some don't like TGM, but it's definitely better than Alaska.
Like I've said, I can understand why some don't like TGM, but it's definitely better than Alaska.Uh
Like I've said, I can understand why some don't like TGM, but it's definitely better than Alaska.I'm afraid you're wrong, sir. :-\
Are you saying their old style is better than their new colors/tgm style? :|
new EP being recorded in December.
.. (https://allmediareviews.blogspot.com/2010/08/between-buried-and-me-tba-new-ep-10.html)
I think it'd be cool if the new EP was similar to this album (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Twist_of_Fate_%28EP%29) in terms of length and number of songs.
Silent Circus is the only good album they've released.
Silent Circus is the only good album they've released.
(https://futonreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/87665dude-wtf-posters1z.jpg)
Shorter songs wouldn't have done much. Less focus on progressive metal would have, though.Nope, the progressive moments are the only good bits they have now and days. Less focus on poop metal would be better.
Silent Circus is the only good album they've released.
(https://futonreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/87665dude-wtf-posters1z.jpg)
It sounds like it's organic, and from their roots. TGM sounds like they had no idea what to do.
Props to Architects (from the UK) for putting on a AWESOME show!
Watch them play "Swim To The Moon" live and see how the audience reacts. I've seen more joy in a funeral home.Was the funeral for Hitler?
Watch them play "Swim To The Moon" live and see how the audience reacts. I've seen more joy in a funeral home.Was the funeral for Hitler?
Strange, they were screaming for Mordecai the whole time at the show I went to.That's because Mordecai is one of their best songs ever, I figure.
No, that would be "White Walls."
White Walls is a good song but it's not the best song on Colors.Enlighten me. I always thought AotS was no2, Sun Of Nothing being 3. Neither beat out my number 1 though. :huh:
The only parts of Sun of Nothing I like is from the clean part ("Space man...") to the end. The beginning does absolutely nothing for me.
What does this band sound like?
You can't even hold music!What does this band sound like?
Magic.
You can't even hold music!What does this band sound like?
Magic.
I still remember when everyone heard Obfuscation and loved it, but now the cool thing to do is trollolol TGM. ::)Hey! I, for one disliked that song from the beginning!
I still remember when everyone heard Obfuscation and loved it, but now the cool thing to do is trollolol TGM. ::)
I still remember when everyone heard Obfuscation and loved it, but now the cool thing to do is trollolol TGM. ::)Hey! I, for one disliked that song from the beginning!
I don't like it because it's basically everything I dislike about Colors without any of the great things about it. Completely uninteresting metal riffs cut and pasted between semi-decent mellow and proggy bits. Even in a song like DIM, where there's a fair amount of good/decent parts, none of them complement or mesh with each other, it just feels off. And then there's Fossil Genera and Swim to the Moon, both songs that, even after many listens, I can maybe remember a minute of music from each. They're just completely uninteresting.
new short little studio video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrjTLiC218
Strange, but awesome. I'm pumped to hear this album and the little bits of it sounds promising!new short little studio video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrjTLiC218
Awesome. :lol
new short little studio video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrjTLiC218
:sadpanda:Why the sadpanda?
I want a double album.
I want a double album.As long as it is more Colors than TGM, yes.
I listened to Colors yesterday and while I LOVE some parts of it, other parts just seems a bit plain and uninteresting... :-\ (It wasn't my first listen BTW, I own this album since last year or so)Get out.
I listened to Colors yesterday and while I LOVE some parts of it, other parts just seems a bit plain and uninteresting... :-\ (It wasn't my first listen BTW, I own this album since last year or so)
Colors clicked with me instantly. :hatYeah, same with me man. I consider that first listen my all-time favourite musical moment
I hope they come out with a sound that is a combo of Colors/Alaska/The Silent Circus. That would be an absolute mindfuck. But an awesome one.
I hope they come out with a sound that is different from their previous records.
I hope they come out with a sound that is different from their previous records.
You guys are sounding just like DT fans complaining about Train of Thought and onwards :\
You guys are sounding just like DT fans complaining about Train of Thought and onwards :\
huh?
Not if you want to be in the funvee.
Apparently you've never seen Iron Man.Not if you want to be in the funvee.
???
I went to the midnight premier of Iron Man 2 and fell asleep during it. Does that count? :millahhhhNo, because that quote is in the first Iron Man movie. Lol.
Everytime I watch that video of BTBAM's new EP footage, I keep getting reminded how awesome it's going to be and how hilarious those guys are! :rollin
I still fail to see how TGM is all that different from Colors. I think it's better, actually.
I still fail to see how TGM is all that different from Colors. I think it's better, actually. Way fewer LOOK HOW BR00TAL WE R sections.But way more LOOK HOW PROG WE R sections.
Honestly, BTBAM is the only metalcore band I can tolerate, mainly because they're the total opposite of generic. Not sure where you're getting the generic from.
I still fail to see how TGM is all that different from Colors. I think it's better, actually.
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Yeah, but prog is way better than generic metalcore.Generic prog is just as terrible though.
Generic prog is just as terrible though.True.
You guys are sounding just like DT fans complaining about Train of Thought and onwards :\
huh?
I guess he meant DT fans that wants another Scenes/IaW/Awake for the next DT album.
I'm hoping for some actual songwriting.No u.
I'm hoping for some actual songwriting.No u.
I'm hoping for some actual songwriting.
Also, here's to hoping Desert of Song wasn't a fluke. I want more of that.
I think that the new EP will be great. My biggest issue with ALL BtBaM albums is they spend sometimes the better part of 5 minutes thrashing around and screaming in the most generic and sterile possible before getting to anything interesting. Hopefully, a shorter EP will mean cutting back on a lot of the "filler" of the last two albums. Also, here's to hoping Desert of Song wasn't a fluke. I want more of that.
I need metal.
(though I'm having a hard time getting into White Walls)
(though I'm having a hard time getting into White Walls)
:|
but...but...dat last 3 minutes...
i would think misdirect is closer to colors both stylistically and in tone than is alaska.
Reviving this thread because I'm fucking in love with this band. I thoroughly enjoyed Colors (though I'm having a hard time getting into White Walls), and I'm looking for their other album I could listen to. Suggestions? I'm thinking Alaska.
Also, I was wondering if their sound in Colors is how they sound in general or just an experiment or whatever. Because I totally wouldn't mind another Colors.
The vocalist has a solo album out, producing and playing all the instruments himself. It sounds pretty awesome.
Bottom Line
Essentially a rock album, Pulse explores the various influences that have followed Giles throughout recent years on tour and also whilst away from the band. It is a surprisingly comfortable and solid release.
As it stands, after listening to some high quality previews on YouTube, this album is going to be bought. By me.
Supposed to be out February some time.
Gave it a spin on the way to the store, it's damned good.
I think 'experimental rock' is probably the best descriptor. There's a fair bit of electro stuff as well.
I'm hoping for some actual songwriting.
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(though I'm having a hard time getting into White Walls)
:|
but...but...dat last 3 minutes...
How can you like The Great Misdirect but not Colors? It's pretty much just a low-rent, less organized version of Colors.Exactly.
You agreed with me then disagreed with me? I meant low-rent in a bad way.I meant the less organized part actually. The whole 'low-rent' comment I don't get at all.
I have absolutely no desire to listen to The Great Misdirect after my initial 2-3 listens.Then don't listen to it anymore. I almost feel the same way about Colors, except it has a few really good songs, but I don't think I'd want to listen to it in album form very often.
Colors is superior in every way possibleThis is the truth. I really don't see how anyone could prefer TGM. I like the album, Obfuscation in particular has really grown on me recently, but for every 'high' on TGM there are 10 on Colors. The intro is better, the ending is (miles) better, and the songs in between are better too. But then I would say that, as Colors is my favourite album of all time :tup
can one really get a grasp for TGM in 2 or 3 listens?!
can one really get a grasp for TGM in 2 or 3 listens?!
I'm hoping for some actual songwriting.
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Just chiming in to say this picture cracks me up every time I see it. :lol
(though I'm having a hard time getting into White Walls)lol what is this i dont even
He was filming?Yeah someone on the Facebook page asked the same thing and got the same answer, direct from the band. ALL IS WELL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktSpVJ6nrnU
:caffeine:
Dont mean to rain on the parade, but the little snippets of music we heard didnt really pique my interest that much. I love these guys and their definately one of my favorite bands, but nothing really sounded that interesting from what I could hear. I'm sure I'll be proven wrong (and I hope so), so I guess I'll wait for a bit more.
I don't know, there really wasn't enough for me to form and opinion one way or the other, and even then it can be misleading; the TGM sampler that was released sounded fucking awesome, but the album was a major letdown.
Dont mean to rain on the parade, but the little snippets of music we heard didnt really pique my interest that much. I love these guys and their definately one of my favorite bands, but nothing really sounded that interesting from what I could hear. I'm sure I'll be proven wrong (and I hope so), so I guess I'll wait for a bit more.
There's simply no way you could form an opinion based on that video.
I still can't how someone can love Colors then hate TGM.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mirrors is the best thing about TGM. It's the most cohesive song by far AND most memorable.In addition to Obfuscation, for obvious reasons. :metal
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mirrors is the best thing about TGM. It's the most cohesive song by far AND most memorable.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mirrors is the best thing about TGM. It's the most cohesive song by far AND most memorable.
Fair enough, but all the ideas that we hear in the video will sound completely different when put in context of the actual album.
Out of pure curiosity, what in "Swim To The Moon" is cutting edge?
this was from last summer and it might have been posted then/already but if not it's probably worth sharing.
https://bcove.me/swqrmwbu
I'm fine with bands putting out EPs - if they aren't in place of actual albums. An album every 2-3 years with EPs interspersed is fine, but An album every 4-5 years with an EP inbetween is not.
I LOVE their cover of Metallica's Blackened.
I never liked the covers either. I can't think of one I enjoy.This.
Sorry guys, but I just totally am not into those covers. I think pretty much all of them are really, really bad.What the hell are you? :lol
As far as the Colors/TGM thing, I think TGM is way better. In fact, Colors has never clicked with me. I think there's too many bt00tal sections going on for me to like it.
The weird thing is, I think Alaska is great. I can do br00tal songs when they're shorter, but I can't do 12 minute songs that just meander on and on and eventually get to a brief one or two minute segue of music I like.
They are basically the same
They are basically the same
I think Orcus has demolished this argument 47 times by now.
They weren't necessarily trying to make another Colors. Tommy and Dan both said at one point their goal was to outdo Colors, which they of course did not do.
They are basically the same
I think Orcus has demolished this argument 47 times by now.
I've got 48 primed and loaded if need be.
Colors*They are basically the same
I think Orcus has demolished this argument 47 times by now.
I've got 48 primed and loaded if need be.
While I agree they aren't the same, and that Colours is better, I'd like to read the demolition.
You really are the angry conservative :pColors*They are basically the same
I think Orcus has demolished this argument 47 times by now.
I've got 48 primed and loaded if need be.
While I agree they aren't the same, and that Colours is better, I'd like to read the demolition.
Why, thank you!You really are the angry conservative :pColors*They are basically the same
I think Orcus has demolished this argument 47 times by now.
I've got 48 primed and loaded if need be.
While I agree they aren't the same, and that Colours is better, I'd like to read the demolition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5CO6M5Gpb8
Different, but I don't mind this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5CO6M5Gpb8
Different, but I don't mind this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5CO6M5Gpb8
Different, but I don't mind this.
That was EXCELLENT. Loved it, loved it, loved it. If the rest of his album is that good, I'll definitely pick it up.
DUN DUUNN DUN IAINHoly crap, that was genius. Exactly how it sounds! :metal
DUN DUUNN DUN IAIN
Of course it's genius. It was me who thought of it :neverusethis:pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft
I listened to Colors for the first time today, my 'first' experience of the band. (apart from the fact that i had heard The Decade of Statues a year ago)
Not really sure what I think, it was... different.
Probably needs several more listens, before I can give an opinion. :P
Colors is a big grower. Enough time spent on it, it becomes very rewarding.
Colors is a big grower. Enough time spent on it, it becomes very rewarding.
Colors is a big grower. Enough time spent on it, it becomes very rewarding.
You guys are silly. I loved Colors from the first listen.This.
I'm trying to remember I loved it, but I "do" remember that I quite liked it and I listened to it several more times and it grew and grew and grew even more.The album has grew on me with each listen, even though I absolutely loved it from day one.
You guys are silly. I loved Colors from the first listen.
I'm trying to remember I loved it, but I "do" remember that I quite liked it and I listened to it several more times and it grew and grew and grew even more.
Anyone else getting some Muse-vibes from The Backtrack? :P
I'm not a Muse-fan or anything, but the first half of the song somehow reminded me of them.
Anyone else getting some Muse-vibes from The Backtrack? :P
I'm not a Muse-fan or anything, but the first half of the song somehow reminded me of them.
Anyone else getting some Muse-vibes from The Backtrack? :P
I'm not a Muse-fan or anything, but the first half of the song somehow reminded me of them.
muse...perhaps. ive always gotten more of a pumpkins vibe from it...perhaps more of a pumpkins meets muse kinda thing, two influences that (i think) can be heard in briggs' other band as well.
^ Does Selkies count yet?Not yet. lol.
I think Swim to the Moon is my favourite BTBAM song.
*runs*
I think Swim to the Moon is my favourite BTBAM song.
*runs*
Swim To The Moon is a hundred times more epic than White Walls.
The keyboard solo is awesome. (Oh i'm sorry, it's not incredibly technical so clearly is inferior)
The keyboard solo is awesome. (Oh i'm sorry, it's not incredibly technical so clearly is inferior)
Swim To The Moon is a hundred times more epic than White Walls.
Yeah he was, in the DVD you see him just playing a load of random stuff, then at the end they all laugh and say stuff like "That was pretty good, shall we keep it?"The keyboard solo is awesome. (Oh i'm sorry, it's not incredibly technical so clearly is inferior)
The problem is not that it's not technical, it's that is sounds like Tommy was just fucking around, which I'm pretty sure he was.
Swim To The Moon is a hundred times more epic than White Walls.(https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b279/prostheticsummer/1295482943310.gif)
If you watch the recording diary video it shows him laying down the solo. He uses his feet and tongue and stuff.The keyboard solo is awesome. (Oh i'm sorry, it's not incredibly technical so clearly is inferior)
The problem is not that it's not technical, it's that is sounds like Tommy was just fucking around, which I'm pretty sure he was.
I'm pretty sure he's just screwing around with the already-recorded solo there. Not like it makes it any better.Yeah someone says "Do you want to double it?" and then he does all that crazy stuff. I haven't really listened to TGM since I bought it to be honest. I haven't even ripped it to my computer.
What the hell does the last 7 minutes of the song even sound like? I've heard it a half dozen times and I can't remember a single thing.
Anyone checked out his solo-album btw?None of the stores in my area have it in stock.
personally, i find that the vox on the self titled are intolerable; im sure glad this was 'remedied' in a hurry (and now tommy's one of my fav singers, clean AND harsh)Well you know that first album was recorded 'live' as a session, so everything is much harsher and more raw than it is on later records. I love it, personally. It's so angry, and so honest.
What the hell does the last 7 minutes of the song even sound like? I've heard it a half dozen times and I can't remember a single thing.
Are there any more Live-albums apart from Colors Live?There's a bonus DVD that comes with the special edition of The Silent Circus with 7 or 8 live songs from the first 3 albums, apart from that not really.
Is it a commonly accepted fact that BTBAM's lyrics are abysmal?I wouldn't have said so. I like the change between lyrical styles on each album, how the early material was so aggressive and coarse whilst the newer lyrics generally are more introspective and complex.
What the hell does the last 7 minutes of the song even sound like? I've heard it a half dozen times and I can't remember a single thing.
What the hell does the last 7 minutes of the song even sound like? I've heard it a half dozen times and I can't remember a single thing.
These are my exact thoughts about almost any time BtBaM play heavy music.
What the hell does the last 7 minutes of the song even sound like? I've heard it a half dozen times and I can't remember a single thing.
These are my exact thoughts about almost any time BtBaM play heavy music.
Yeah, really
It's not that I don't like heavy. But plenty of bands do it so much better.
It's not that I don't like heavy. But plenty of bands do it so much better.
Like?
^my post^It's not that I don't like heavy. But plenty of bands do it so much better.
Like?
Is the only thing that keeps you interested in music like that is because it's 'brutal'?
The fact that you think Systematic Chaos is worlds above some BTBAM stuff tells me all I need to know.
I think their level of heaviness is boring and sterile sounding for lots of reasons. Possibly because (unlike alot of people) Between the Buried and Me weren't the first extreme metal band I ever listened to.I was into loads of death/thrash before BTBAM. I don't find the heavy sections of Colors boring at all. In fact, I'd say it's a good deal more interesting than most death metal bands.
Better in terms of general success fusing progressive and metal elements- Mastodon's Blood Mountain. Nowhere near as copy-pastey as Colors.
Better in terms of being a metalcore record- August Burns Red's Constellations. Brutality is a lot less 'polished' and way more energetic.
Better in terms of showcasing musicianship and solos- Dream Theater's Systematic Chaos.
And, from what I've heard, so are the band live.No.
I don't think The Decade of Statues is 'trying' to be brutal at all. BTBAM have no trouble with creating 'br00tal' music when they want to; see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6V8-uuentw.
But boring and sterile? I just can't see it.
Plus, having bought the Colors guitar tab book, I can tell you it is extremely complex and difficult to play, a lot more than you might imagine from just listening to the track.
I'm not understanding where all the hate for BTBAM is coming from in this thread. Like I said a few pages back, BTBAM are 5 guys that enjoy making music together, they didn't sign up to get the third degree from prog fans. The fact that they are able to create such diverse music that bridges the gap between prog fans, general metal fans and br00tal metal fans should speak for itself IMO.
absolutely no-one but scenesters cared about this band before Alaska
^ Agreed. When you're new to Colors, the heavy - soft dynamic is very remarkable.
For all those moaning about how TGM was too mishmashy and unmemorable, leaning towards the prog side of btbam far too much: check out pulse.
For all those moaning about how TGM was too mishmashy and unmemorable, leaning towards the prog side of btbam far too much: check out pulse.
There's certainly alot of different stuff on here, which all sounds great as stand alone tracks, but yeah it doesn't exactly flow as an album.
Man, The Great Misdirect becomes better with each listen.
I'm not implying that it's better then Colors, but it certainly isn't worse. :metal
I see what you did there.Man, The Great Misdirect becomes better with each listen.
I'm not implying that it's better then Colors, but it certainly isn't worse. :metal
Woo, welcome to the darkside!
So this week I've been spinning The Great Misdirect, since I'm trying to move forward with 1 album per week.
I don't agree with the flaming at all, this album is fantastic IMO, and doesn't have a weak song.
The thing is, I don't really want to compare it to Colors, because they are both great in different ways, what I love about The Great Misdirect is that it's probably more experimental, and I really dig that.
There are some really groovy and cool parts on the album, the first that comes to my mind is a part in "Disease, Injury, Madness" near the end, with like keyboards playing, and the singing is like "DA-DA-DA" something something, that part just feels so awesome while hearing it. :metal
Overall a fantastic album. :heart
So this week I've been spinning The Great Misdirect, since I'm trying to move forward with 1 album per week.
I don't agree with the flaming at all, this album is fantastic IMO, and doesn't have a weak song.
The thing is, I don't really want to compare it to Colors, because they are both great in different ways, what I love about The Great Misdirect is that it's probably more experimental, and I really dig that.
There are some really groovy and cool parts on the album, the first that comes to my mind is a part in "Disease, Injury, Madness" near the end, with like keyboards playing, and the singing is like "DA-DA-DA" something something, that part just feels so awesome while hearing it. :metal
Overall a fantastic album. :heart
I listened BTBAM for the first time. I got Colors, and I loved it. :heart
Yay! Definitely their best album to get into right out of the gate!I listened BTBAM for the first time. I got Colors, and I loved it. :heart
Woo!
Man, The Great Misdirect becomes better with each listen.
I'm not implying that it's better then Colors, but it certainly isn't worse. :metal
Man, The Great Misdirect becomes better with each listen.
I'm not implying that it's better then Colors, but it certainly isn't worse. :metal
YES
:metal :metal :metal
And in light of our discussion I'm starting to dig Colors more too. The only copy I have of it is the live CD/DVD they did, but from what I've heard everything translated really well so I'm not losing much. You're right, these are both excellent albums that are great for very different reasons.
um, didnt you just spend the better part of two pages dissing the last two outputs, PC?! ???
Between the Buried and Me - The Great Misdirect
This was rather hard to figure out. And down the road this may end up being much better than the lack of credit I'm giving it here. But a few things made this drop down my list. For one, it was not really cohesive like any of their other albums, especially Colors. Another is they seemed to channel Dream Theater; almost quote them multiple times. Which in subtle spots is fine, but I kept hearing The Glass Prison and Honor Thy Father in certain spots, it started to kill what they were doing. Another thing is they kind of repeated themselves, but not as well. The whole "Swim to the Moon" really is/was a chore to get through and part of that was I kept wanting hear Tommy sing "it's raining, it's raining, it's reyyyyneeeeen!" from Backwards Marathon.
I guess on paper, there's still a lot of work here I like; at least to regard it among the best 50 albums of the year. But in a way it was like Fear of a Blank Planet and a few other records in recent years. It didn't leave me with a fulfilling feeling that their other records have. I just felt I listened to a bunch of long-winded music with some moments to enjoy, but did not standout or stick with me in the end. And I know they are a band who can and have done that, easily. They sort of had to be prog for the sake-of, and didn't bring enough new cool sections to my liking. And to be fair, it was the follow-up to Colors, a top 20 for the decade album. Time may be more kind to this, but right now, I can't be bothered to want to listen to it.
Soundscape, I definitely hold different opinions than you, but that list is really freakin' good.Ditto.
I especially agree about all the instrumental proggish acts out there. I just get so bored with them so quickly.
After a week of listening to The Great Misdirect, I think it's safe to say that it's my favorite album by BTBAM right nao.
This week I'll be checking out Alaska. ;)
Listened to Alaska today, and not really surprised that it had way less (almost no) soft-parts.
This will probably take more listens to get into, but hey... I'll spin it several more times this week. :)
Just wait for "All Bodies" to click. You're going to want to listen to it all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGsAmDxTk1k&feature=fvst:metal
:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
and as for TGM, i believe its my all time favorite metal album; could even be my favorite album outright, but im less sure i can make that declaration
Finally some TGM love.No u.
Hearing the riffs/drums etc. outside of their songs really made me realize how great they sound, normally when I hear an album I only think of the overall sound, but when you get to hear the individual parts, they really become better somehow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE4WNt0wCOA&feature=player_embeddedWhen the camera is on Paul in that video, it looks like they are in Jamie King's studio. Interesting.
Well, it's something. I supposed.
What makes you say that?
Celebrated progressive rock / cutting-edge metal band BETWEEN THE BURIED AN ME (also BTBAM) has inked a worldwide recording deal with Metal Blade Records. The award-winning North Carolina quintet will kick off the partnership with the April release of its new album The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues.Though I think it's just a typo, and it will indeed be an EP
Further details on The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues will be made available soon. The LP will contain the first new music from BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME since the release of 2009's The Great Misdirect
they added a few tracks to make it an LPNot too sure I like the sound of that, makes the whole thing sound a bit half-assed. I'm sure i'll be proved wrong though, I mean whatever is released has gotta be better than TGM
I think it will be fine. If they wanted/needed to add a few tracks, I'm sure they could write a few in less than a week.they added a few tracks to make it an LPNot too sure I like the sound of that, makes the whole thing sound a bit half-assed. I'm sure i'll be proved wrong though, I mean whatever is released has gotta be better than TGM
I'm sure they could write a few in less than a week.
no u.I'm sure they could write a few in less than a week.
*cringe*
Yeah, but that's what I don't want, them just knocking out tracks to make a record long enough. A great album needs time spent on it, and as BTBAM are so keen on each of their albums having a 'flow' of sorts then the idea of turning an EP into an LP by chucking a couple of extra songs on it doesn't seem to fit.I think it will be fine. If they wanted/needed to add a few tracks, I'm sure they could write a few in less than a week.they added a few tracks to make it an LPNot too sure I like the sound of that, makes the whole thing sound a bit half-assed. I'm sure i'll be proved wrong though, I mean whatever is released has gotta be better than TGM
I'm sure they could write a few in less than a week.
*cringe*
I despise EP's.
I'm not really interested in "Best of" or "Greatest Hits"-albums, but I might check out what songs they pick from the first 3, because I don't feel like I know them very well yet.
I think the reasons why Colors and TGM clicked so fast with me was the mellow-parts, and since the first 3 albums doesn't have as much of that, they'll require more listens.
Way more.
Pulse is such an amazing album, already an early candidate for album-of-the-year. :)
THIS! When the mellow parts come up in the earlier albums, they are absolute genius.I'm not really interested in "Best of" or "Greatest Hits"-albums, but I might check out what songs they pick from the first 3, because I don't feel like I know them very well yet.
I think the reasons why Colors and TGM clicked so fast with me was the mellow-parts, and since the first 3 albums doesn't have as much of that, they'll require more listens.
Way more.
Odd considering the mellow parts on those albums are some of the best the band has done.
Pulse is such an amazing album, already an early candidate for album-of-the-year. :)
MoMtK, SCaF, Mordecai, Ad A DglgmutTHIS! When the mellow parts come up in the earlier albums, they are absolute genius.I'm not really interested in "Best of" or "Greatest Hits"-albums, but I might check out what songs they pick from the first 3, because I don't feel like I know them very well yet.
I think the reasons why Colors and TGM clicked so fast with me was the mellow-parts, and since the first 3 albums doesn't have as much of that, they'll require more listens.
Way more.
Odd considering the mellow parts on those albums are some of the best the band has done.
The outtro of Shevanel Cut A Flip is my favourite 'mellow' BTBAM part everMoMtK, SCaF, Mordecai, Ad A DglgmutTHIS! When the mellow parts come up in the earlier albums, they are absolute genius.I'm not really interested in "Best of" or "Greatest Hits"-albums, but I might check out what songs they pick from the first 3, because I don't feel like I know them very well yet.
I think the reasons why Colors and TGM clicked so fast with me was the mellow-parts, and since the first 3 albums doesn't have as much of that, they'll require more listens.
Way more.
Odd considering the mellow parts on those albums are some of the best the band has done.
And that's on their first album. I also enjoy the mellow sections in Aspirations and other songs such as Backwards Marathon, Medicine Wheel, Laser Speed, Shevanel Take 2, etc, etc, etc.The outtro of Shevanel Cut A Flip is my favourite 'mellow' BTBAM part everMoMtK, SCaF, Mordecai, Ad A DglgmutTHIS! When the mellow parts come up in the earlier albums, they are absolute genius.I'm not really interested in "Best of" or "Greatest Hits"-albums, but I might check out what songs they pick from the first 3, because I don't feel like I know them very well yet.
I think the reasons why Colors and TGM clicked so fast with me was the mellow-parts, and since the first 3 albums doesn't have as much of that, they'll require more listens.
Way more.
Odd considering the mellow parts on those albums are some of the best the band has done.
Some interesting details have been revealed regarding Between The Buried And Mes upcoming new album The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues. The effort, which is due out on April 12th through Metal Blade, will be the first installment in a two album conceptual story arc.
According to band guitarist Paul Waggoner:
The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues will introduce two human characters who live in different planes of existence, separated by millions of light years. We find that each is confronted with similar personal issues that they need to reckon with. Both characters make decisions that will change their lives, and perhaps the course of the universe, forever.
Musically, it sounds like Between The Buried And Me. The record has elements of aggression, beauty, quirkiness, and pure cacophony. For Part 1″, we establish several themes which Im sure will be revisited in the lengthier Part 2″, which is something we really look forward to. We love to expand on simple ideas and see where they take us.
cool
Sound interesting.
i can dig it
Sound interesting.
That is the lamest story ever.It certainly doesn't sound any dumber than the story for, say, Crack the Skye.
That is the lamest story ever.
That is the lamest story ever.
That is the lamest story ever.
I'm starting to get curious as to what bands you have actually liked for more than a couple of years?
also...stoked bout the new album(s) :hat :metalThis. I want them now.
Either sludge metal; Neurosis, Baroness etcwut
or
Folk Metal: Agalloch, Moonsorrow, Turisas etc
That is the lamest story ever.
I'm starting to get curious as to what bands you have actually liked for more than a couple of years?
I'm being completely serious for the second time, stop with this shit. It's not even cute anymore. I like as much music as the next guy. I'm even anticipating the next BTBAM because they've always pulled off some awesome material at the very least even if some of the songs don't work well. And if they release a story concept that wouldn't pass for an Ayreon reject I'm going to comment on it.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm always super stoked to hear something new from one of my favorite bands and I won't judge it until I hear it!
Yea, I definitely agree with you. Who knows, DT's new drummer might still play a lot like MP in certain styles and there may not even be a difference. Maybe the songs might sound BETTER, who knows. /endofftopicI don't know about anyone else, but I'm always super stoked to hear something new from one of my favorite bands and I won't judge it until I hear it!
This. People on the internet seem to have trouble with that idea though. The new Drummer thread is an awesome example. Every time we get a hint that it might be someone, 1/3rd of the forum goes into "the sky is falling" mode.
That is the lamest story ever.
I'm starting to get curious as to what bands you have actually liked for more than a couple of years?
I'm being completely serious for the second time, stop with this shit. It's not even cute anymore. I like as much music as the next guy. I'm even anticipating the next BTBAM because they've always pulled off some awesome material at the very least even if some of the songs don't work well. And if they release a story concept that wouldn't pass for an Ayreon reject I'm going to comment on it.
It was a serious question. I'm just asking because you usually seem like the kind of person who waits to hear something before judging it, so I'm surprised the more and more I see you brushing off bands I thought you liked off without really giving them a fair chance.
Like, what bands have been your mainstays for the last several years?
Secondly, everyone pulled that same shit on me (herp derp do you even like music lol) when the Incident came out, because it sucked, it still does, and I said so. So, as far as that goes, deal with it :P
That is the lamest story ever.
I'm starting to get curious as to what bands you have actually liked for more than a couple of years?
The Backtrack is such a fantastic opener, how that song changes during the course of ~2 minutes is simply amazing. :hat
The Backtrack is such a fantastic opener, how that song changes during the course of ~2 minutes is simply amazing. :hat
Check out this exclusive stream of a six-and-a-half-minute portion of "Specular Reflection" from Between The Buried And Me's new EP, The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues, out April 12 on Metal Blade. Pre-orders for the new record will begin on Feb. 28 here.
Thanks for the link man! Listening now.It's definately an EP, check the note at the bottom of their tour poster, though I can't make out what length it says.
That website is calling it an EP though, right when we had all decided it was a full-length....ahhh so confused! ???
Also, I really like that promo picture. It's good to see that they're all looking healthy.
That says "10-Minute EP" :|Who the fuck writes a 10-minute EP? There's no way that can be right...
EDIT: Or maybe it says 30. I really can't tell.
The intro to Swim to the Moon. :heart
For the longest time I was turned off of BtBaM because all of the screamo/metalcore/deathcore fans at my school love them. I decided I'll give them a chance though. What's their best song?The album Colors. Listen to it from start to finish. :metal
For the longest time I was turned off of BtBaM because all of the screamo/metalcore/deathcore fans at my school love them. I decided I'll give them a chance though. What's their best song?The album Colors. Listen to it from start to finish. :metal
That is the lamest story ever.
I'm starting to get curious as to what bands you have actually liked for more than a couple of years?
Because we can't have critical opinions here.
For the longest time I was turned off of BtBaM because all of the screamo/metalcore/deathcore fans at my school love them. I decided I'll give them a chance though. What's their best song?"Selkies: The Endless Obsession"
Either this or White Walls, but I suggest you don't start with their best. Go with The early tracks of Colors first.For the longest time I was turned off of BtBaM because all of the screamo/metalcore/deathcore fans at my school love them. I decided I'll give them a chance though. What's their best song?"Selkies: The Endless Obsession"
Listened to Colours a few times. Didn't like it at first, but I'm starting to dig it now. :metal
Colors* :PHey, I'm used to spelling everything the Canadian way. :P
The only Canadian way I know to spell that word is "Couleurs". :tupColors* :PHey, I'm used to spelling everything the Canadian way. :P
Listened to Colours a few times. Didn't like it at first, but I'm starting to dig it now. :metal
BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME TO RELEASE THE PARALLAX: HYPERSLEEP DIALOGUES ON APRIL 12
Globally celebrated progressive rock / cutting-edge metal innovators BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME (aka BTBAM) will release its new album The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues on April 12, 2011 via Metal Blade Records. The three-song strong, 30 minute tour de force was recorded at Canada's Metalworks Studios and Rattlebox Studios and produced / engineered by the Grammy awardwinning David Bottrill (Tool, Muse, King Crimson, Dream Theater, etc.) with BTBAM.
The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues represents BTBAMs musical and conceptual masterwork; the record showcases both the quintets vivid execution and ambitious vision. The otherworldly conceptual thread linking each of the songs is mobilized around two human characters that live in different planes of existence and are separated by millions of light years, each confronted with similar personal issues. Subsequently, both characters make decisions that will change their lives, and perhaps the course of the universe, forever. Musically, the release presents aura-rich atmospheres rife with roaring volumes, corrugated rhythms and trance-inducing intricacies. Cerebral and visceral, soft and heavy, melodic and abrasive, tender and brutal, familiar and strange and taut yet sprawling and epic, BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME has crafted a sound that is musically sophisticated yet primal and a disc where every new passage leads to the culmination of an epic adventure.
Track listing:
1.) Specular Reflection
2.) Augment of Rebirth
3.) Lunar Wilderness
Does anyone know if their touring after they release the EP?
LOL the artwork is a mirrored image of an insect sex-train
WTF kind of album title is that.
i'm not sure how self-aware the inclusion of horse-neigh's make a band.THIS!
that being said, horse-neigh FTW! :metal
Yeah, I completely agree with that, but I've never come to love something so offputting at first listen. Heck, Lateralus bored me on my first listen, and now it's my favourite album ever. I just don't see that happening here, as I actively disliked it first time round.
Also, Tallest Man On Earth was one of the few artists that clicked immediately for me. :lol
Yeah, I completely agree with that, but I've never come to love something so offputting at first listen. Heck, Lateralus bored me on my first listen, and now it's my favourite album ever. I just don't see that happening here, as I actively disliked it first time round.You certainly can't judge the Colors album or indeed the band just on those two tracks. The rest of the album is much more progressive and intricate, and often mellow and beautiful. Foam Born is just a 1-2 'punch in the face' compared to the tender massaging of the later tracks
Also, Tallest Man On Earth was one of the few artists that clicked immediately for me. :lol
Hopefully you'll dig it!
Personally I lost interest for Progressive Metal a year ago or something, but BTBAM clicked right away, and hopefully I'll start checking out some more Progressive stuff again. :P
I think I'm on that boat these days. Prog metal just doesn't make me go "8===================D" anymore.
Devin Townsend wants a word with you.He's very talented, but nothing about his music really grabs me, aside from a few songs.
Don't make fun of my nose. :sadpanda:I think I'm on that boat these days. Prog metal just doesn't make me go "8===================D" anymore.
YOUR NOSE
Yeah, I've lost interest in a ton of bands that were once all my favorites, so hopefully BTBAM can be added to the ever-growing pool of new music I'm digging lately. :)
Right you are, sir. I've spun Alaska and Colors a few times each, and they're fucking awesome :D Extremely refreshing, too. No self-indulgent individualism. They all work together as one extreme force of nature.Yeah, I've lost interest in a ton of bands that were once all my favorites, so hopefully BTBAM can be added to the ever-growing pool of new music I'm digging lately. :)
It will be added and it will be stuck there.
Glad you dig em :tup.Right you are, sir. I've spun Alaska and Colors a few times each, and they're fucking awesome :D Extremely refreshing, too. No self-indulgent individualism. They all work together as one extreme force of nature.Yeah, I've lost interest in a ton of bands that were once all my favorites, so hopefully BTBAM can be added to the ever-growing pool of new music I'm digging lately. :)
It will be added and it will be stuck there.
Who's buying the best of? I know I'm a sucker, so I will definitely buy it.
Glad you dig em :tup.Right you are, sir. I've spun Alaska and Colors a few times each, and they're fucking awesome :D Extremely refreshing, too. No self-indulgent individualism. They all work together as one extreme force of nature.Yeah, I've lost interest in a ton of bands that were once all my favorites, so hopefully BTBAM can be added to the ever-growing pool of new music I'm digging lately. :)
It will be added and it will be stuck there.
So, who's up for a marathon/countdown of Alaska, Colors, and TGM right in time for the new EP hitting soil?
(because they're still with their current lineup, that's why I chose the last three)
But you can start from the very start too, whatever you want. Should be fun I think, especially if you haven't overplayed BTBAM.
Just bought tickets to each of the 2 London shows they're playing with Animals as Leaders later this year. That's going to be an intense couple of daysHoly fuck they're playing with AAL need tourdates now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjGJYHA1_ME
"Is it better than Colors?
"No."
:rollin
Just go to youtube.
Fucking amazing.
I have absolutely no opinion of it.
I have absolutely no opinion of it.
Why is that?
I don't know, I just came out of listening to it with absolutely nothing to say one way or the other.
They should have left Lunar Wilderness at like 5-8 mins long.
Colors felt cohesive and mature, The Great Misdirect and this feel like they're just all over the place (not even that, really, just the general sound) with no purpose other than the sake of being proggy.
Yes, because the different musical parts, while insane, work well together. They simply don't in these recent BTBAM's cases. If you like them that's awesome and I envy you, but I really can't get into them because they flow so poorly in general.
The song lengths make me worried that it will be as horribly bloated as TGM was.It's not.
The song lengths make me worried that it will be as horribly bloated as TGM was.It's not.
But everyone knows the longer a song is the better it is.
But everyone knows the longer a song is the better it is.
I know you're joking but it's painfully obvious that whenever a tracklist is released for a new album the longest songs get the most excitement as if that makes it automatically good. At least on forums like this.
>Shorter songs tend to have much more craftMore craft/stronger, sturdier structure. You said what I said, except you had to add a snide little comment directed at me that serves nothing productive. :tup
>more craft
>wat
Anyway, it seems to me that if they more shorter songs and fewer long ones, they'd end up with many good, concise tunes made from what would previously make up a longer song. As well as one or two 10 minute-plus songs that carry more meaning in their length than on, say, TGM, because there are fewer of them.
I'm not a prog nerd, I don't even like long songs.
So much wat in this thread.Because long songs are difficult to compose without them sounding bloated and unfocused. Plenty of bands pull it off, but there are just as many bands that fail at it.QuoteI'm not a prog nerd, I don't even like long songs.
Whatever. Cause it's not like the longer songs are the ones we all remember. (ACOS, White Walls, Light and The Glass, Blackbird, Duel With The Devil)
Also why is that a band must change when some "fans" don't like something? Why not go listen to one of the many hundreds or other bands that release 3 to 6 minute songs instead of bitching about one of the few that doesn't.
Tearing a bands work apart is hardly constructive.No one's doing that.
Also why is that a band must change when some "fans" don't like something? Why not go listen to one of the many hundreds or other bands that release 3 to 6 minute songs instead of bitching about one of the few that doesn't.
I'm loving the Scale The Summit-like intro and very well structured song that Lunar Wilderness has to offer. One of their best overall songs of all the time, not too brutal or too prog.
Holy shit, it's Obfuscation in user account form. :hefdaddy
I love Obfuscation.
this EP > entire btbam discography
*ducksfor"stfucoloursisthashitswimtothemoon4lyf"*
Picked up the best of yesterday. Decent packaging idea and not a bad song selection. The live tracks as we all guessed are from the second half of the Colors DVD. Haven't looked at the DVD, but I'm sure it's a waste of time.
Picked up the best of yesterday. Decent packaging idea and not a bad song selection. The live tracks as we all guessed are from the second half of the Colors DVD. Haven't looked at the DVD, but I'm sure it's a waste of time.
Why oh why do people support obvious record company cash-ins?
I know this is slightly off topic, but for anyone who's going to see them on the upcoming tour - am I the only one thinking about skipping out on the first two bands and just hitting up BTBAM? I love THEM, but Job for a Cowboy...well let's just say I don't love them. The Ocean sounds interesting from what I've listened to on youtube, but then I'd have to go and listen to Job for a Cowboy, and their singer really doesn't agree with my ears. For those of you that know the other bands a little better, would I be missing out on anything?
PS this is my first post here. Hey guys!
They're following up this new concept EP with a full length, hopefully we'll see it by the end of this year!
I want to see some shorter songs songs this time. Indeed they could make a well rounded album with about half of the content being long tracks and short to mid length tracks.
fuzzboy: "dude, throw on some music.":lol
fuzzboy's friend: "for sure! what'cha wanna hear?"
fuzzboy: "i dont know man, nothing metal. and definitely nothing by btbam; something that goes down smooth."
fuzzboy's friend rummaging through fuzzboy's discography: "there's just too much, even sans metal; i cant choose anything"
fuzzboy: "ugh."
fuzzboy's friend: shoulder shrug
fuzzbooy: "fuck, just throw in desert of song and hit repeat."
fuzzboy: "dude, throw on some music.":lol
fuzzboy's friend: "for sure! what'cha wanna hear?"
fuzzboy: "i dont know man, nothing metal. and definitely nothing by btbam; something that goes down smooth."
fuzzboy's friend rummaging through fuzzboy's discography: "there's just too much, even sans metal; i cant choose anything"
fuzzboy: "ugh."
fuzzboy's friend: shoulder shrug
fuzzbooy: "fuck, just throw in desert of song and hit repeat."
fuzzboy: "dude, throw on some music."
fuzzboy's friend: "for sure! what'cha wanna hear?"
fuzzboy: "i dont know man, nothing metal. and definitely nothing by btbam; something that goes down smooth."
fuzzboy's friend rummaging through fuzzboy's discography: "there's just too much, even sans metal; i cant choose anything"
fuzzboy: "ugh."
fuzzboy's friend: shoulder shrug
fuzzbooy: "fuck, just throw in desert of song and hit repeat."
Do you get yelled at for "not knowing anything on the radio"? My one friend gives me the dirtiest looks for not knowing her new favorite jam.
Holy shit, it's Obfuscation in user account form. :hefdaddyYes, be prepared to be second guessing everything Obfuscation tells you. ;)
I love Obfuscation.
My tickets for the London dates came today, I forgot I'd ordered them and it was a nice thing to wake up to. Anybody else thinking of seeing them in the UK?Ooooh when and where are they playing? And are there still tickets?
They're playing The Underworld on the 20th and 21st September. No idea why 2 dates at the same venue, but as it's my favourite venue and one of my favourite bands I got tickets to both days :tupMy tickets for the London dates came today, I forgot I'd ordered them and it was a nice thing to wake up to. Anybody else thinking of seeing them in the UK?Ooooh when and where are they playing? And are there still tickets?
Also I've decided that I love The Great Misdirect. Don't get me wrong, Colors is really great as well, but for me TGM just has the perfect balance of heavy to non-heavy stuff.
Blake Richardson confirmed for greatest drummer I have heard in a long time.
Do you get yelled at for "not knowing anything on the radio"? My one friend gives me the dirtiest looks for not knowing her new favorite jam.
Does Colors exist in 5.1? I could imagine it being the greatest thing ever released by anybody.
Does Colors exist in 5.1? I could imagine it being the greatest thing ever released by anybody.
Hey, Reign in Blood costs a full album price too. Some albums are only 30 minutes. This is really an EP only in name.
Damn, how could I be so foolish? :|Does Colors exist in 5.1? I could imagine it being the greatest thing ever released by anybody.
Have you forgotten about what's being released on June 20th?
Anything special about the packaging, or should I just buy it mp3 version off amazon.
What's being released June 20th?Damn, how could I be so foolish? :|Does Colors exist in 5.1? I could imagine it being the greatest thing ever released by anybody.
Have you forgotten about what's being released on June 20th?
Some wanky-ass bullshit with too many guest vocalists by some balding Canadian that escaped from a mental institution.I imagined this being said by your avatar.
Some wanky-ass bullshit with too many guest vocalists by some balding Canadian that escaped from a mental institution.
:p
I'm actually looking forward to Decon.
Some wanky-ass bullshit with too many guest vocalists by some balding Canadian that escaped from a mental institution.:clap: :lol
Colors is sort of like that too. Can't wait to hear TP:HD.
Colors is sort of like that too. Can't wait to hear TP:HD.
I wonder if we will see it instores this weekend SPNKr, but knowing a band like BTBAM, we won't see an Australian release straight away. I guess online will be the go.
Colors is sort of like that too. Can't wait to hear TP:HD.
I wonder if we will see it instores this weekend SPNKr, but knowing a band like BTBAM, we won't see an Australian release straight away. I guess online will be the go.
Sorry to put your hopes up but.. I'm fuckin' downloading it BROTHER!
Colors is sort of like that too. Can't wait to hear TP:HD.
I wonder if we will see it instores this weekend SPNKr, but knowing a band like BTBAM, we won't see an Australian release straight away. I guess online will be the go.
Sorry to put your hopes up but.. I'm fuckin' downloading it BROTHER!
Naughty naughty!
Colors is sort of like that too. Can't wait to hear TP:HD.
I wonder if we will see it instores this weekend SPNKr, but knowing a band like BTBAM, we won't see an Australian release straight away. I guess online will be the go.
Sorry to put your hopes up but.. I'm fuckin' downloading it BROTHER!
Naughty naughty!
If it doesn't exist in your country, what else can you do?
Colors is sort of like that too. Can't wait to hear TP:HD.
I wonder if we will see it instores this weekend SPNKr, but knowing a band like BTBAM, we won't see an Australian release straight away. I guess online will be the go.
Sorry to put your hopes up but.. I'm fuckin' downloading it BROTHER!
Naughty naughty!
If it doesn't exist in your country, what else can you do?
Order online.
I don't think they have much touring to do this year. We can only hope they'll jump back in the studio sometime past the midyear.I heard they will be writing/recording at least a portion of the album before they head to Europe in the fall. Keep in mind I heard this and I have no link/evidence to show you, so please don't ask.
I'm seeing BTBAM tonight, I'm part of the first group of people that gets to hear the new music live!Lucky you. Have fun!
:caffeine:
THE SHOW WAS FUCKING AMAZINGHoly shit. :o
SET:
New Ep in its entirety
"Sun of Nothing"
"Ants of the Sky"
"Fossil Genera"
"Selkies"
God damn, the new EP and my 4 fucking favorite BTBAM songs.
What a show!
SET:
New Ep in its entirety
"Sun of Nothing"
"Ants of the Sky"
"Fossil Genera"
"Selkies"
THE SHOW WAS FUCKING AMAZING
SET:
New Ep in its entirety
"Sun of Nothing"
"Ants of the Sky"
"Fossil Genera"
"Selkies"
God damn, the new EP and my 4 fucking favorite BTBAM songs.
What a show!
Man Fossil Genera being stuck in there really kills that set.Wat.
Man Fossil Genera being stuck in there really kills that set.Wat.
Pretty much all of Fossil Genera as well - I swear I've heard that song 15 or 20 times and I still have no idea how it goes beyond the first few minutes. Skipping through it now, there's lots of bits I remember after hearing them, and they're all good. But they just don't work together at all, and as a result the song as a whole is totally forgettable.
Also, Job for a Cowboy was bad, but they were so entertaining! hahaha And the Ocean wasn't that bad, they actually had some cool stuff.The Ocean are pretty cool, but their new album has some terrible terrible lyrics. And I like JFAC too, they're like halfway between deathcore and death metal. Would love to see that lineup with BTBAM, but Animals As Leaders in September are a great support too.
Well, you're wrong. :PMan Fossil Genera being stuck in there really kills that set.Wat.Pretty much all of Fossil Genera as well - I swear I've heard that song 15 or 20 times and I still have no idea how it goes beyond the first few minutes. Skipping through it now, there's lots of bits I remember after hearing them, and they're all good. But they just don't work together at all, and as a result the song as a whole is totally forgettable.
I get what you mean Sigz, but honestly I feel like that's a part of the band's sound now.I find it quirky and dynamic, and I think BTBAM do it really well. I much prefer BTBAM's recent stuff because it is like that.
I think both Colors and TGM compared to Alaska has a lot more solo/weird-sections that eventually makes one wonder "how did the song start?" or "how does the middle sound?", in some cases I feel that it's bad, like with Dream Theater's last 3-4 albums, that is a problem for me.
I appreciate prog, but sometimes it's not good enough to cram 20 great sections into one song, if you can't get them to flow good together.
With BTBAM however, I don't really have a problem with it, and I appreciate that the music takes pauses from all the brutal parts.
The Ocean are pretty cool, but their new album has some terrible terrible lyrics.
Well, you're wrong. :PMan Fossil Genera being stuck in there really kills that set.Wat.Pretty much all of Fossil Genera as well - I swear I've heard that song 15 or 20 times and I still have no idea how it goes beyond the first few minutes. Skipping through it now, there's lots of bits I remember after hearing them, and they're all good. But they just don't work together at all, and as a result the song as a whole is totally forgettable.
Even though I really love The Great Misdirect, it would be pretty much impossible for me to pick a favorite, or a song that I would like to hear live more then the others.
None of the songs really sticks out as being better then the rest. :/
Unlike on Colors, where I have several 'favorites'.
Swim to the Moon is my favourite BTBAM song.
Problem?
This.Swim to the Moon is my favourite BTBAM song.
Problem?
It's just odd considering it's a microcosm of everything that is wrong about newer BTBAM.
there's nothing 'wrong' about it. its the direction the band is taking and you just dont like it.
there's nothing 'wrong' about it. its the direction the band is taking and you just dont like it.
there's nothing 'wrong' about it. its the direction the band is taking and you just dont like it.
Whether or not that's true, it still doesn't change the fact that "Swim to the Moon" is their worst song.
^ You may as well re-listen to TGM, but I'll be marathoning the current lineup's albums (bar The Anatomy Of) when I get TPHD. Will be fun.
there's nothing 'wrong' about it. its the direction the band is taking and you just dont like it.
there's nothing 'wrong' about it. its the direction the band is taking and you just dont like it.That's exactly right. I don't want them to move in that direction.
I think so do. Great Misdirect would have made a fine 50 minute album.
If you don't like the new EP, we are not a match.
but a lot of us really like swim to the moon, riceball. love, even.
I've become hopelessly addicted to the new EP. I listen to it multiple times a day.This. I can't stop listening to it, either.
I love their wacky sections, and that bit is one of my favourite moments on the EP! :lol
I love their wacky sections, and that bit is one of my favourite moments on the EP! :lol
They killed in in Toledo last night. I got the same set I thought they would play:
Specular Reflection
Augment of Rebirth
Lunar Wilderness
Sun of Nothing
Ants of The Sky
Fossil Genera
Selkies
Listening to the new EP now. :hefdaddy
They killed in in Toledo last night. I got the same set I thought they would play:
Specular Reflection
Augment of Rebirth
Lunar Wilderness
Sun of Nothing
Ants of The Sky
Fossil Genera
Selkies
You mean they've finally stopped ending with "White Walls"?
Live stream of their concert https://www.theravelive.com/btbam.asp
Am I the only one here who thinks that Pulse is better than the new EP? I think Tommy's solo album is actually really good. I definitely like it a lot more than the new EP (although the new EP certainly ain't bad)
Picked up the EP today. Haven't listened to it yet. The price was shocking, it cost me $28.99!! That's almost a dollar per minute. :lolI paid $9.99 for the EP I bought the day it came out.
anyone here bought the Best Of? Worth getting?
anyone here bought the Best Of? Worth getting?
Yeah, I got it. The packaging is really cool and the song selection is pretty standard. The bonus live tracks are just from the Colors DVD and I haven't watched the DVD. I just got it for my collection, but aside from a couple of live tracks there's nothing new. It's a cash grab, but I didn't mind it.
I still haven't heard the EP.
lol
are the tracks edited at all? As in to make them stream into each other better?
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34_dTOK_2NY
Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's a gravity blastDon't know if this has been posted yet, but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34_dTOK_2NY
ya, seen that last night. trippy camera-setting-up-action for during a live show.
anywayz, watching that fast as fuck single hand action early on (1:00), i thought i was watching mangini for a second.
EDIT: is he rapid firing there with alternating tip and butt hits?!
I still haven't heard the EP.
lol
I wish it wasn't true :sad:I still haven't heard the EP.
lol
Don't worry, you're not missing too much.
Good news, it's not true! :)I wish it wasn't true :sad:I still haven't heard the EP.
lol
Don't worry, you're not missing too much.
Going to give it another listen on the way to work though
The problem for me is that I just don't find anything on the EP very memorable. It's enjoyable while I'm listening to it, but once it's over and I view it retrospectively in my head everything just sort of merges into one big sound. I don't find myself humming anything, or with segments stuck in my head like I do with most of their other work. I can replay Colors note for note in my head, but even after ~10 listens I can't even replay one minute of the EP.Good news, it's not true! :)I wish it wasn't true :sad:I still haven't heard the EP.
lol
Don't worry, you're not missing too much.
Going to give it another listen on the way to work though
I still haven't heard the EP.
lol
Don't worry, you're not missing too much.
I don't get how people don't like the new EP. For me it's the best 30 minutes of music the band have ever produced. Though I'm also one of those fans who thinks they're just getting better and better.This.
The EP is growing on me, but the first minute of Specular Relfection is still one of the most hilariously bad things ever :lol
:rollin Sometimes I think they did it just to be funnyAs opposed to the random hoe-down music in "Ants of the Sky" on Colors?
Don't be hatin:rollin Sometimes I think they did it just to be funnyAs opposed to the random hoe-down music in "Ants of the Sky" on Colors?
I don't get how people don't like the new EP. For me it's the best 30 minutes of music the band have ever produced. Though I'm also one of those fans who thinks they're just getting better and better.I love you.
That's awesome :metal:rollin Sometimes I think they did it just to be funnyAs opposed to the random hoe-down music in "Ants of the Sky" on Colors?
The EP is growing on me, but the first minute of Specular Relfection is still one of the most hilariously bad things ever :lolUm, WHAT?
The EP is growing on me, but the first minute of Specular Relfection is still one of the most hilariously bad things ever :lol
The problem for me is that I just don't find anything on the EP very memorable. It's enjoyable while I'm listening to it, but once it's over and I view it retrospectively in my head everything just sort of merges into one big sound. I don't find myself humming anything, or with segments stuck in my head like I do with most of their other work. I can replay Colors note for note in my head, but even after ~10 listens I can't even replay one minute of the EP.
Huh? The album length has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the music. You can create great stuff in 20 minutes or 120 minutes, it doesn't matter. Implying that they didn't have enough time to squeeze in different types of music just seems like a strange assumption. People need to stop treating EPs likes they're completely different things from full length albums. Its still music. There are no special rules.
Huh? The album length has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the music. You can create great stuff in 20 minutes or 120 minutes, it doesn't matter. Implying that they didn't have enough time to squeeze in different types of music just seems like a strange assumption. People need to stop treating EPs likes they're completely different things from full length albums. Its still music. There are no special rules.I agree, but it seems funny coming from someone who talks about albums being too long. :P
Huh? The album length has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the music. You can create great stuff in 20 minutes or 120 minutes, it doesn't matter. Implying that they didn't have enough time to squeeze in different types of music just seems like a strange assumption. People need to stop treating EPs likes they're completely different things from full length albums. Its still music. There are no special rules.
The problem for me is that I just don't find anything on the EP very memorable. It's enjoyable while I'm listening to it, but once it's over and I view it retrospectively in my head everything just sort of merges into one big sound. I don't find myself humming anything, or with segments stuck in my head like I do with most of their other work. I can replay Colors note for note in my head, but even after ~10 listens I can't even replay one minute of the EP.
Yeah this is definitely a problem. It's a solid EP but it's very much run of the mill BTBAM.
That doesn't even make sense, TGM is nothing like the rest of their stuff.The problem for me is that I just don't find anything on the EP very memorable. It's enjoyable while I'm listening to it, but once it's over and I view it retrospectively in my head everything just sort of merges into one big sound. I don't find myself humming anything, or with segments stuck in my head like I do with most of their other work. I can replay Colors note for note in my head, but even after ~10 listens I can't even replay one minute of the EP.
Yeah this is definitely a problem. It's a solid EP but it's very much run of the mill BTBAM.
Not as much as TGM was.
Huh? The album length has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the music. You can create great stuff in 20 minutes or 120 minutes, it doesn't matter. Implying that they didn't have enough time to squeeze in different types of music just seems like a strange assumption. People need to stop treating EPs likes they're completely different things from full length albums. Its still music. There are no special rules.
You can, surely, but when listening to the EP I get the feeling that BTBAM made it what it is to satisfy their fans, not alienate any of them, and perhaps draw a few more in. It's nothing new, it's nothing huge, but it's a solid release and that's probably what they were aiming for with the EP.
The problem for me is that I just don't find anything on the EP very memorable. It's enjoyable while I'm listening to it, but once it's over and I view it retrospectively in my head everything just sort of merges into one big sound. I don't find myself humming anything, or with segments stuck in my head like I do with most of their other work. I can replay Colors note for note in my head, but even after ~10 listens I can't even replay one minute of the EP.
Huh? The album length has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the music. You can create great stuff in 20 minutes or 120 minutes, it doesn't matter. Implying that they didn't have enough time to squeeze in different types of music just seems like a strange assumption. People need to stop treating EPs likes they're completely different things from full length albums. Its still music. There are no special rules.I agree, but it seems funny coming from someone who talks about albums being too long. :P
I know what you mean, but I think it depends on the band or artist. If a band usually releases albums of 55-70 minutes in length and then releases one that is only half an hour, calling it an EP at least identifies it as shorter, purely for ease of reference for the fans.Huh? The album length has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the music. You can create great stuff in 20 minutes or 120 minutes, it doesn't matter. Implying that they didn't have enough time to squeeze in different types of music just seems like a strange assumption. People need to stop treating EPs likes they're completely different things from full length albums. Its still music. There are no special rules.I agree, but it seems funny coming from someone who talks about albums being too long. :P
:lol very true. When it comes to stuff like this I do try to put what I perceive the definitions of terms are before my personal interests. I've always felt that EP and LP are archaic terms from the days of records that hold no real merit in todays music scene.
Most bands have fans like that. In fact, pretty much all bands!
Maybe you've just come across them more, because I've never noticed them being any better or worse than any other genre fans.Most bands have fans like that. In fact, pretty much all bands!
But scene kids and prog fans are both especially "special" groups.
I hadn't realised that there are BTBAM fans who hate colors. I mean, REALLY?
lol.I hadn't realised that there are BTBAM fans who hate colors. I mean, REALLY?
I can't speak for the fanbase as a whole, but when I was in line to see them on the Colors tour there were plenty of fans complaining about the "new sound."
Yeah, there's a lot of old Thrice fans who hate their new stuff.How dare they. :censored
right. i'm guessing the lead guitar melody @ 3:13 of specular reflection we're talkin bout. everyone seemed to notice that immediately (before, i'm sure, anyone realized the album picks up the story where swim to the moon left off).
but ya, that's the only nugget i've noticed. i would expect there to be more, but i would also expect to have noticed some of em by now.
...i'm over 300 spins
Not trying to single anyone in this thread out, but btbam have some of the bitchiest fans ever. I thought it was bad enough when I heard all the scene kids crying about Colors when I was waiting in-line to get into the show, but I should have known that their new prog fans, given time, would become just as whiny.I think I'm lucky that I love prog and I love [some of the] metalcore/hardcore bands.
Not trying to single anyone in this thread out, but btbam have some of the bitchiest fans ever. I thought it was bad enough when I heard all the scene kids crying about Colors when I was waiting in-line to get into the show, but I should have known that their new prog fans, given time, would become just as whiny.
That made me happy. At least they're admitting that Colors was a fluke and they're incapable of making anything that good again. :biggrin:Not trying to single anyone in this thread out, but btbam have some of the bitchiest fans ever. I thought it was bad enough when I heard all the scene kids crying about Colors when I was waiting in-line to get into the show, but I should have known that their new prog fans, given time, would become just as whiny.
THIS, i remember watching that chat with Tommy, Paul, and Blake where Tommy started making fun of the bitchy fans like that. He says "Hey paul, what does the new record sound like dude, is it better than Colors man?!" Paul just goes "No" :lol
I still have to give Colors a listen to
Nah.I still have to give Colors a listen to
DUDE WTF
Colors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TGM
Nah.I still have to give Colors a listen to
DUDE WTF
Colors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TGM
But it's still excellent.
Don't worry guys, its not like I avoid it, I just never really got the chance to listen to it :P I got some spare cash so I'll see if my local record shop has it haha.
But seriously, The Great Misdirect is so fucking good its not even funny.
Parallax and TGM last? :facepalm:Just don't like 'em man. I've tried, but it's not happening. TGM has grown on me quite a lot since I first heard it, but I can't remember even a single riff from the EP. I think we can all (except Rich) agree that Colors is the best though.
But...Obfuscation. Oh my god.:metal :metal :metal
OH MY GOD YOU'RE MISSING THE BEST PARTS OF THE ALBUM SDJKFGHSFDJKLHSDJFG
I miss his pre-Colors vocals, he was so much more varied.I thought he sounded great on Alaska, but he sounds really strained on most of TSC. His vocals lack the power that he developed on Alaska and onwards.
Maybe there is less variety, but it's not very good variety.
:lolMaybe there is less variety, but it's not very good variety.
Pig squeals are always a good variety.
I only have Colors and it's been forever since I've listened to it for some reason.
But...Obfuscation. Oh my god.:metal :metal :metal
So I bought Colors... Really liking it so far, its a lot heavier than TGM...
The guitar solo kinda kills "Obfuscation" for me. I think because it's implemented the same way most solos are implemented in newer DT songs.
I can see some of the complaints for TGM and Parallax, they do feel a bit more scattered in terms of sections being there for the sake of it,It's music, all of it is there for the sake of it. What else would it be there for? :lol
Right now here's my list still, on track 6 of Colors so still got a bit left but anywhoI can see some of the complaints for TGM and Parallax, they do feel a bit more scattered in terms of sections being there for the sake of it,It's music, all of it is there for the sake of it. What else would it be there for? :lol
1. The Great Misdirect
2. Colors
3. Parallax
4. Alaska
Haven't heard their first two, but those four range from very good to amazing.
I can see some of the complaints for TGM and Parallax, they do feel a bit more scattered in terms of sections being there for the sake of it,It's music, all of it is there for the sake of it. What else would it be there for? :lol
1. The Great Misdirect
2. Colors
3. Parallax
4. Alaska
Haven't heard their first two, but those four range from very good to amazing.
and speaking of fossil genera, i dont get all the flack that song receives. it's fun AND epic, has a little bit of everything (kinda) ,and is pretty much awesome in every way.
DAT arrangement :metal
Definitely more cohesive and coherent than Alaska.
You're really not doing the album justice by listening to it in 4 or 5 segments. You gotta enjoy it all at once, like a subway footlong. If you save half for later, it's just not the same.Right now here's my list still, on track 6 of Colors so still got a bit left but anywhoI can see some of the complaints for TGM and Parallax, they do feel a bit more scattered in terms of sections being there for the sake of it,It's music, all of it is there for the sake of it. What else would it be there for? :lol
1. The Great Misdirect
2. Colors
3. Parallax
4. Alaska
Haven't heard their first two, but those four range from very good to amazing.
1. The Great Misdirect >= Colors
2. Parallax
3. Alaska
Does anyone else have TGM 5.1?Yeah I do, it's how I first listened to the album, but I haven't listened to it in 5.1 since that first time so I can't comment on how it compares to the CD version.
I find that bit in Backwards Marathon fine, I guess we find different things 'coherent'.Backwards Marathon is awesome, and I agree that there's nothing wrong with that transition. If anything, that slight pause before it drops back in (which sounds deliberate to me) just makes the reprise all the more ass-kickingly heavy and awesome :metal
Then again, Swim to the Moon is far more coherent than White Walls yet people hate on it.
Does anyone else have TGM 5.1?I do, it's sweet. I discovered so many cool little parts listening to the 5.1.
You're really not doing the album justice by listening to it in 4 or 5 segments. You gotta enjoy it all at once, like a subway footlong. If you save half for later, it's just not the same.Right now here's my list still, on track 6 of Colors so still got a bit left but anywhoI can see some of the complaints for TGM and Parallax, they do feel a bit more scattered in terms of sections being there for the sake of it,It's music, all of it is there for the sake of it. What else would it be there for? :lol
1. The Great Misdirect
2. Colors
3. Parallax
4. Alaska
Haven't heard their first two, but those four range from very good to amazing.
1. The Great Misdirect >= Colors
2. Parallax
3. AlaskaDoes anyone else have TGM 5.1?Yeah I do, it's how I first listened to the album, but I haven't listened to it in 5.1 since that first time so I can't comment on how it compares to the CD version.I find that bit in Backwards Marathon fine, I guess we find different things 'coherent'.Backwards Marathon is awesome, and I agree that there's nothing wrong with that transition. If anything, that slight pause before it drops back in (which sounds deliberate to me) just makes the reprise all the more ass-kickingly heavy and awesome :metal
Then again, Swim to the Moon is far more coherent than White Walls yet people hate on it.
I disagree about Swim to the Moon though, I simply can't understand how someone could describe the second half of that song as coherant. I mean, some of it's improvised, it's wayyyy too long, it's stop-start and it sounds to me like they couldn't think of a better way to finish the track so they just...stopped. White Walls has one of the greatest closing segments of all time, OF ALL TIME, and builds up to that moment through delicious movements both heavy, mellow and melodic. Musical bliss, man.
I don't get all the Swim To The Moon, it's my fav. BTBAM song and one of my favorite songs of all time.I understand the criticisms and somewhat even agree with them, but I still love the song. At times, its lack of cohesiveness is a strength rather than a weakness.
11/15 Little Rock, AR Juanita's
You mean for you or for me?For everyone.
You mean for you or for me?For everyone.
You mean for you or for me?For everyone.
You mean for you or for me?For everyone.
:lol for me!
Wasn't it Orcus that said that after X listens of Swim to the Moon, he still couldn't remember the middle section?
I giggled at that, because I kinda had the same problem for a while. :lol
Wasn't it Orcus that said that after X listens of Swim to the Moon, he still couldn't remember the middle section?
I giggled at that, because I kinda had the same problem for a while. :lol
they're walking a fine line now between becoming too wankery
And why is "long for the sake of long" a bad thing?
Thing is, I really like Swim to the Moon.This is BTBAM me we are talking about. Having out-of-place musical sections has been their trademark since Colors.
But it reminds me a bit of newer DT (post-6DOIT) in a bad way, long for the sake of being long, with quite a few sections being completely out of place.
I actually haven't listened to The Parallax yet. Is it any good? I didn't really like The Great Misdirect...
I actually haven't listened to The Parallax yet. Is it any good? I didn't really like The Great Misdirect...
It's not even close to Alaska. If anything it's a slightly less erratic derivation of TGM style songwriting.
I think on a compositional level it's the middle ground between Alaska and Colors.
Thing is, I really like Swim to the Moon.This is BTBAM me we are talking about. Having out-of-place musical sections has been their trademark since Colors.
But it reminds me a bit of newer DT (post-6DOIT) in a bad way, long for the sake of being long, with quite a few sections being completely out of place.
In fact, I'd argue that nothing on "Swim to the Moon" is as out of place as the random hoedown on... "Ants of the Sky" I think.
Quotethey're walking a fine line now between becoming too wankery
They really cut back on the "wank" with The Parallax.
And why is "long for the sake of long" a bad thing?
Countless artists do short songs. If you want short songs, listen to them.
The hoedown section is phenomenal. The part that follows wouldn't be as good without it.
Nothing wrong with music being fun and silly.
The thing that makes me laugh about people saying Swim The Moon is too poorly structured is the fact that it's actually one of their few traditional 3 chorus songs.
The thing that makes me laugh about people saying Swim The Moon is too poorly structured is the fact that it's actually one of their few traditional 3 chorus songs.
Indeed. The closest thing to self indulgent about STTM is the length of the song. It's actually pretty well put together and nowhere near as random as people make it out to be. It's just easy to pick on because its seventeen minutes long.
I would, if I could remember anything remotely interesting about the song to pick on. :neverusethis:The thing that makes me laugh about people saying Swim The Moon is too poorly structured is the fact that it's actually one of their few traditional 3 chorus songs.
Indeed. The closest thing to self indulgent about STTM is the length of the song. It's actually pretty well put together and nowhere near as random as people make it out to be. It's just easy to pick on because its seventeen minutes long.
No one really picks on White Walls even though it's 15 minutes long.
I would, if I could remember anything remotely interesting about the song to pick on. :neverusethis:The thing that makes me laugh about people saying Swim The Moon is too poorly structured is the fact that it's actually one of their few traditional 3 chorus songs.
Indeed. The closest thing to self indulgent about STTM is the length of the song. It's actually pretty well put together and nowhere near as random as people make it out to be. It's just easy to pick on because its seventeen minutes long.
No one really picks on White Walls even though it's 15 minutes long.
:neverusethis:I would, if I could remember anything remotely interesting about the song to pick on. :neverusethis:The thing that makes me laugh about people saying Swim The Moon is too poorly structured is the fact that it's actually one of their few traditional 3 chorus songs.
Indeed. The closest thing to self indulgent about STTM is the length of the song. It's actually pretty well put together and nowhere near as random as people make it out to be. It's just easy to pick on because its seventeen minutes long.
No one really picks on White Walls even though it's 15 minutes long.
ಠ_ಠ
White Walls is awesome and a million times better than Swim to the Moon
White Walls is awesome and a million times better than Swim to the MoonMeh
It totally is. As I've said before, I've heard it at least a dozen times and still have no idea how it goes besides the chorus and the very beginning. It's bland and forgettable, simple as that.You're.... you're talking about White Walls right?
It totally is. As I've said before, I've heard it at least a dozen times and still have no idea how it goes besides the chorus and the very beginning. It's bland and forgettable, simple as that.
It's not his problem that the song is boring :neverusethis:It totally is. As I've said before, I've heard it at least a dozen times and still have no idea how it goes besides the chorus and the very beginning. It's bland and forgettable, simple as that.
And as I said, that sounds more like a you problem than a problem of the song.
It totally is. As I've said before, I've heard it at least a dozen times and still have no idea how it goes besides the chorus and the very beginning. It's bland and forgettable, simple as that.
And as I said, that sounds more like a you problem than a problem of the song.
You could apply that to anyone's problem with anything. That's a cop-out.
music is subjective etc.
Of course, I kind of find the criticism of BTBAM being meandering funny anyway. Being all over the place is what they do! :lolExactly. :)
Swim to the Moon is fantastic, but I can easily see people's problem with it.I can see people saying that it's unfocused, even if I don't necessarily agree, but boring? What the fuck people?
Swim to the Moon is fantastic, but I can easily see people's problem with it.I can see people saying that it's unfocused, even if I don't necessarily agree, but boring? What the fuck people?
Of course, I kind of find the criticism of BTBAM being meandering funny anyway. Being all over the place is what they do! :lolExactly. :)
I never understood this argument. Just because a band is crazy and all over the place doesn't mean they can ignore the flow and dynamics of their songs. Indeed, what makes crazy, spastic bands like that great is that they're able to synthesize all these wildly contradictory styles into a song that works. A statement like "oh well they're a crazy band so who cares if something sounds out of place" totally misses the point.
I never understood this argument. Just because a band is crazy and all over the place doesn't mean they can ignore the flow and dynamics of their songs. Indeed, what makes crazy, spastic bands like that great is that they're able to synthesize all these wildly contradictory styles into a song that works. A statement like "oh well they're a crazy band so who cares if something sounds out of place" totally misses the point.
Agreed.
1. They're not a metalcore band.
Oh, then that's on me. Everyone I know who has listened to them has described them as such. And by their pictures, they sort of look the part.
It totally is. As I've said before, I've heard STTM at least a dozen times and still have no idea how it goes besides the chorus and the very beginning. It's bland and forgettable, simple as that.
Any list with songs from TGM rounding out the top 3 can never be considered best.Oh, okay, I'll just change which songs I enjoy the most for you so my list fits your standards. :tdwn
:lolTGM is getting such a shitting upon it though, its getting annoying. It'd be like people telling me liking Death's The Sound of Perseverance more than Human is really stupid and not valid. I'll chill though, my siblings also just happen to be little shits right now and are making a complete mess of my basement before our parents get home after I had my friends pick up all their stuff! >:( annoying stuff I tell ya.
DC, relax. Don't take it so personal.
:lolTGM is getting such a shitting upon it though, its getting annoying. It'd be like people telling me liking Death's The Sound of Perseverance more than Human is really stupid and not valid. I'll chill though, my siblings also just happen to be little shits right now and are making a complete mess of my basement before our parents get home after I had my friends pick up all their stuff! >:( annoying stuff I tell ya.
DC, relax. Don't take it so personal.
:lolTGM is getting such a shitting upon it though, its getting annoying. It'd be like people telling me liking Death's The Sound of Perseverance more than Human is really stupid and not valid. I'll chill though, my siblings also just happen to be little shits right now and are making a complete mess of my basement before our parents get home after I had my friends pick up all their stuff! >:( annoying stuff I tell ya.
DC, relax. Don't take it so personal.
TGM sucks and isn't valid.
TGM sucks and isn't valid.
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The nerve of some people, having differing opinions.No thats not even it, people having different opinions is fine. I think what I'm trying to say is clear enough..
Why do you keep insinuating I bitch when people give differing opinions? I'm completely fine with it, but when people just keep saying the same thing over and over after something it gets old.. :chill
here's my top tenHmm. My list would be quite quite different
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Swim To The Moon
Desert Of Song
Fossil Genera - A Feed From Cloud Mountain
Disease, Injury, Madness
Mirrors
Obfuscation
Specular Reflection
Augment of Rebirth
Lunar Wilderness
Lost Perfection (B) Analphobia
parallolx
The closest thing to self indulgent about STTM is the length of the song. It's actually pretty well put together and nowhere near as random as people make it out to be. It's just easy to pick on because its seventeen minutes long.
Just because a band is crazy and all over the place doesn't mean they can ignore the flow and dynamics of their songs. Indeed, what makes crazy, spastic bands like that great is that they're able to synthesize all these wildly contradictory styles into a song that works. A statement like "oh well they're a crazy band so who cares if something sounds out of place" totally misses the point.
:facepalm:
I absolutely love Fossil Genera and Obfuscation.
I really like TGM, I'm not a huge fan of the band, but I enjoyed Colors and TGM. White Walls, Mirrors, Swim To The Moon, Obfuscation, and Desert of Song are some of my favs.:tup
:facepalm:I love Obfuscation. Great song there, especially how Mirrors segues into it.
I absolutely love Fossil Genera and Obfuscation.
TGM to me is kinda like the newer DT albums in that many of them have really cool sections but I can't pick really any whole songs I think are great. "Mirrors" and "Desert of Song" are pretty cool, though.
:facepalm:I love Obfuscation. Great song there, especially how Mirrors segues into it.
I absolutely love Fossil Genera and Obfuscation.
Fossil Genera, OTOH, is the one song on the album that embodies every complaint made against TGM. It does have some awesome sections but I honestly cannot remember the middle part of that song at all.
I can't say that I hate it, but it's my least favorite on the album.
I actually do feel that way about both those songs. :):facepalm:I love Obfuscation. Great song there, especially how Mirrors segues into it.
I absolutely love Fossil Genera and Obfuscation.
Fossil Genera, OTOH, is the one song on the album that embodies every complaint made against TGM. It does have some awesome sections but I honestly cannot remember the middle part of that song at all.
I can't say that I hate it, but it's my least favorite on the album.
The same complaint could be made for songs like Ants Of The Sky and White Walls. I can barely remember half of the parts in the first part of White Walls (though the second half of it is amazing) and Ants Of The Sky only really has a few parts that i can remember and the rest is pretty forgettable.
When discussion about something is perpetuated, it's bound to attract people who have opinions that differ from yours. Deal with it.Why are you telling him that? He's happy to have differing opinions, but rightly gets annoyed when people insinuate that his opinion is inferior.
But...but... "We must move on, ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!":facepalm:
I absolutely love Fossil Genera and Obfuscation.
I love the first half of Fossil Genera
Seeing them next month with Animals as Leaders :metal
Seeing them next month with Animals as Leaders :metal
Same, which show you going to?
Sequel? wat
I lost interest in BTBAM after Alaska. I've actually pretty much lost interest in that vocal style just in general.Fantastic thanks for contributing.
I lost interest in BTBAM after Alaska. I've actually pretty much lost interest in that vocal style just in general.talk about decontribution yyyyyyyyeah
Seeing them next month with Animals as Leaders :metal
Same, which show you going to?
The Cardiff show, realyl suprised they're coming to Wales to be honest. :lol
Hmm...I was listening again....Although my favorite BTBAM song is Viridian, I still think TGM > Colors
I'm not a really fan of the other albums though. Not that I don't like them, I just haven't heard many songs from the older albums.
Quote from BTBAM's facebook page
LONDON: if you haven't already gotten tickets to either of the shows on September 20th or 21st, don't miss out! An extra incentive is that we'll be playing a COMPLETELY different set on the 21st for a special one-off show over here in Europe. Don't miss out!
:caffeine:
Why can't they do a gig in Sheffield D:
Why can't they do a gig in Sheffield D:
Come to the Leeds show, it isn't far.
Why can't they do a gig in Sheffield D:
Come to the Leeds show, it isn't far.
hrm. it might end too late, do you think it'd end in time for me to get the 22:41 back to sheffield?
Fuck it i'll do it, the train is cheap too.
They better not end with selkies or swim to the moon last though.
they forgot bout lunar wilderness, the bastardsYeah I thought they were going to play the whole EP, but nope.
I just learnt that they are doing a gid in London tonight.... all sold out.... I'm literally crying... :'( :'( :'( :'(Is tonight sold out? I know last night was but I thought there were still tickets for today. There are people on Facebook selling spares if you're really interested, plus there were a few touts last night if you don't mind paying over the odds
FUCK
YES
Colors in full. Absolutely epic.
What a fantastic gig!
Colors in full
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Specular Reflection
Disease, Injury, Madness
A bit of Smells Like Teen Spirit, which was highly entertaining, and Tommy just gave the mic to some people at the front of the crowd.
Selkies
What a fantastic gig!
Colors in full
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Specular Reflection
Disease, Injury, Madness
A bit of Smells Like Teen Spirit, which was highly entertaining, and Tommy just gave the mic to some people at the front of the crowd.
Selkies
Seeing them Tuesday...DOES THAT MEAN I GET COLOURS?Doubt it, pretty sure it was just a one-off as they played two nights at the Underworld. :hat
I bet they'll break up before their next uk tour now too
I bet they'll break up before their next uk tour now too
Don't you dare speak of such horrors! :sadpanda:
Sweet, I'll take my Colors and Colors_Live just in case, hopefully I'll get to meet them!
LE SIGH
I wish i had gone to that gig.
After letting it sink in for a good few months I now feel comfortable saying Specular Reflection is a masterpiece.I don't know about you, but im comfortable saying the whole EP is a masterpiece. :metal
^ this.
^ this.
After letting it sink in for a good few months I now feel comfortable saying Specular Reflection is a masterpiece.
After letting it sink in for a good few months I now feel comfortable saying Specular Reflection is a masterpiece.
Reading page 57 of this thread makes me more angry at the fact that something always comes up every time BTBAM are touring the UK.
After letting it sink in for a good few months I now feel comfortable saying Specular Reflection is a masterpiece.I don't know about you, but im comfortable saying the whole EP is a masterpiece. :metal
Yeah :(Reading page 57 of this thread makes me more angry at the fact that something always comes up every time BTBAM are touring the UK.
The setlist thing?
Yeah :(Reading page 57 of this thread makes me more angry at the fact that something always comes up every time BTBAM are touring the UK.
The setlist thing?
That's an interesting setlist. What was in the medley?Alaska, All Bodies, Fire For A Dry Mouth, Shevanel Cut A Flip, Aspirations, Lost Perfection (B), and another first album song I can't remember at the current moment. It was close to 10 minutes long.
Sounds pretty cool.Besides a few transitions, the whole medley was pretty sweet and they managed to tie at the amazing parts of those songs together. Glad I got to witness it!
forgot
I keep being reminded of how I forgot to go see these guys live :(
Nope, though I do have a friend who routinely forgets his tickets to gigs - he gets on the train to London then realises and has to get off mid-stop and go back for them.
Despite his forgetting, we still got there five (rather than six) hours early, and got front row Prog Nation.
IT WAS WORTH IT
Gave The Great Misdirect another listen recently. it's actually a pretty great record.
I've only ever touched barrier at one show, and that was DT in July. So good.I've managed this for Opeth and Dog Fashion Disco
By far one the greatest albums ever made. Genuine masterpiece.QFT
YEAH WELL I STILL GET SUCKED OFF BY SCURRILOUS AFTER 99999999999999 LISTENSGross. I struggled to listen to it after 5 spins.
I liked The Parallax better than Colors. It had the perfect mix of clean vocals and the growling vocals. I can't wait for pt. 2Parallax was pretty awesome. Perfect length too.
Agreed.I liked The Parallax better than Colors. It had the perfect mix of clean vocals and the growling vocals. I can't wait for pt. 2Parallax was pretty awesome. Perfect length too.
Now that I think about it, The Human Abstract is the only 'progressive metalcore' band that's put out anything worthwhile in the last two years. That's a shame.
Parallax is pretty good.Really? Lundar Wilderness is tied with Fossil Genera for my favorite BTBAM songs right now
Specular Reflection especially, the other two doesn't do AS much for me, but okay songs.
Now that I think about it, The Human Abstract is the only 'progressive metalcore' band that's put out anything worthwhile in the last two years. That's a shame.
I think Colors is the best album, and Alaska is the best collection of songs.As much as I hate to be the fan that's favorite song is (arguably) the band's most popular song, Selkies just blows me away every time.
Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyxRphPxvLw
Now that I think about it, The Human Abstract is the only 'progressive metalcore' band that's put out anything worthwhile in the last two years. That's a shame.
lolnope
Parallax was fantastic.
I had a dream last night that I was a fill-in for Dan at a show. The show took place in a high school gym, and our entire audience was made up of young children. I didn't know how to play bass, so I was just playing random notes throughout the show. No one noticed. Also, halfway through the show someone realized that Dustie wasn't there. He showed up right before we started the last song. When Paul asked him where he'd been, Dustie leaned into the mic and proclaimed "Sorry, I was too busy FUCKING MY GIRLFRIEND."Good thing you didn't have to play Viridian. That might have gotten interesting.
....yeah
I had a dream last night that I was a fill-in for Dan at a show. The show took place in a high school gym, and our entire audience was made up of young children. I didn't know how to play bass, so I was just playing random notes throughout the show. No one noticed. Also, halfway through the show someone realized that Dustie wasn't there. He showed up right before we started the last song. When Paul asked him where he'd been, Dustie leaned into the mic and proclaimed "Sorry, I was too busy FUCKING MY GIRLFRIEND."Good thing you didn't have to play Viridian. That might have gotten interesting.
....yeah
Oh, and Colors is still the only good album they made, but it IS quite awesome.
Nah, every album they've made is pretty awesome. Colors > Parallax > TGM > Alaska > TSC > BTBAM is probably how it goes for me now.
Nah, every album they've made is pretty awesome. Colors > Parallax > TGM > Alaska > TSC > BTBAM is probably how it goes for me now.
That offends me.
The Silent Circus is a:tupprettymotha'fockin' fantastic album.
This circle always flows to pages 2, 3, and so forth only to be resurrected by someone's album ratings. I love it. :lol
Colors > Parallax > TGM > Alaska > The Silent Circus > S/T
And the S/T isn't bad at all, just the least awesome.
The Silent Circus is a pretty fantastic album.I've never been able to get into it.
This circle always flows to pages 2, 3, and so forth only to be resurrected by someone's album ratings. I love it. :lol
Colors > Parallax > TGM > Alaska > The Silent Circus > S/T
And the S/T isn't bad at all, just the least awesome.
We have the same album ranking, sir. :metal
Ah what the hey lets do this again
Colors
Alaska
Self Titled
The Silent Circus
The Anatomy Of
The Great Misdirect
Parallax
The Great Misdirect
Colors
Parallax
Alaska
The Silent Circus
Self Titled
Controversial opinions time; S/T is pretty much just boring metalcore.
Controversial opinions time; S/T is pretty much just boring metalcore.
Not too far off from my opinion. Very samey, pretty dull. Granted, I heard TSC first, then Alaska, then S/T, etc. So... It's pretty unfair for me to judge side by side, but even going back and listening to it now and trying to be as unbiased as possible, that sounds about right. Controversial? PERHAPS NO?
Controversial opinions time; S/T is pretty much just boring metalcore.
Not too far off from my opinion. Very samey, pretty dull. Granted, I heard TSC first, then Alaska, then S/T, etc. So... It's pretty unfair for me to judge side by side, but even going back and listening to it now and trying to be as unbiased as possible, that sounds about right. Controversial? PERHAPS NO?
It was the very last album of theirs I heard, and whilst I can appreciate it for being the roots of a great modern prog band, there's no reason to ever listen to it.
The Great Misdirect
Colors
Parallax
Alaska
The Silent Circus
Self Titled
Yes it is.The Great Misdirect
Colors
Parallax
Alaska
The Silent Circus
Self Titled
This is the correct answer.
Parallax
TGM
Alaska
The Silent Circus
Colors
S/T
Controversial opinions time; S/T is pretty much just boring metalcore.Nahhhh
Shevanel Cut a Flip is a top 10 BTBAM song for me.
the songs from S/T and TSC saound wayyy better on the colors dvdThis.
I absolutely love Colors but damn I keep wanting to say I like the EP more O_O it's everything I like about them packed into a half hour, just what I need
Colors > Parallax > TGM > Alaska
haven't listened to much of their older stuff before Blake, Dan, and Dusty joined.
I dunno. Colors is my favorite, and some of the songs are ~10 minutes, I'd be happy with something similar to Colors in terms of song lengths.
Some cool parts but songs don't seem to really have any identity.
pleasebettersongwritingpleasebettersongwritingpleasebettersongwritinglol sigz
pleasebettersongwritingpleasebettersongwritingpleasebettersongwriting
Some cool parts but songs don't seem to really have any identity.I kind of agree with Parallax, although I don't think it really hurts the album at all. I don't really care about whether individual tracks are distinguishable or not, I listen through as an album anyway so it makes no difference to me.
I agree. TGM's songs may be noodly (which is what I love about them) but they are definitely NOT 'indistinct.' Parallax is much worse in that regard. I don't think it hurts the album too much (since it it's so short) but if they make a full length in that vein, I could see it being a problem.Some cool parts but songs don't seem to really have any identity.I kind of agree with Parallax, although I don't think it really hurts the album at all. I don't really care about whether individual tracks are distinguishable or not, I listen through as an album anyway so it makes no difference to me.
But I completely disagree with TGM. I'd say the songs are very distinctive, and that's coming from someone who always listens through as an album.
...while I still like Parallax (Specular Reflection especially), many of the twists and turns really destroyed the songs.
I have a positive feeling that P2 will blow anything else they have done away.
I have much more trouble with the song identity thing from Colors, especially Informal Gluttony, Foam Born B, and Ants of The Sky, If you played all of those songs for me i wouldn't be able to tell them apart.Seriously? I feel like each of those songs have at least 4 awesome parts that set them apart, with Ants of the Sky having more like a billion.
It's more the heavier parts that have nothing that distinguishes them from the other songs. Every one of the heavier sections in those songs sound exactly them same to me.I have much more trouble with the song identity thing from Colors, especially Informal Gluttony, Foam Born B, and Ants of The Sky, If you played all of those songs for me i wouldn't be able to tell them apart.Seriously? I feel like each of those songs have at least 4 awesome parts that set them apart, with Ants of the Sky having more like a billion.
Sounds like you might be listening to any album other than Colors.It's more the heavier parts that have nothing that distinguishes them from the other songs. Every one of the heavier sections in those songs sound exactly them same to me.I have much more trouble with the song identity thing from Colors, especially Informal Gluttony, Foam Born B, and Ants of The Sky, If you played all of those songs for me i wouldn't be able to tell them apart.Seriously? I feel like each of those songs have at least 4 awesome parts that set them apart, with Ants of the Sky having more like a billion.
I have much more trouble with the song identity thing from Colors, especially Informal Gluttony, Foam Born B, and Ants of The Sky, If you played all of those songs for me i wouldn't be able to tell them apart.
The Metal sections are what I have a hard time really distinguishing from one another. Informal Gluttony and Foam Born B really only have maybe a two minutes put together that I can remember from both songs. Ants Of The Sky only has maybe two memorable parts to it and that god-awful hoedown near the end.I have much more trouble with the song identity thing from Colors, especially Informal Gluttony, Foam Born B, and Ants of The Sky, If you played all of those songs for me i wouldn't be able to tell them apart.
Whaaaat? Those songs have pretty distinct sections.
I have much more trouble with the song identity thing from Colors, especially Informal Gluttony, Foam Born B, and Ants of The Sky, If you played all of those songs for me i wouldn't be able to tell them apart.Informal Gluttony is pretty distinct IMO. I hate Foam Born B so it's easy to distinguish for me. :D
Maybe it's because you play bass.
I have much more trouble with the song identity thing from Colors, especially Informal Gluttony, Foam Born B, and Ants of The Sky, If you played all of those songs for me i wouldn't be able to tell them apart.Informal Gluttony is pretty distinct IMO. I hate Foam Born B so it's easy to distinguish for me. :D
Sun of Nothing is where the album starts to get indistinguishable for me. Honestly, I have no idea when and where that song ends and where Ants of the Sky starts. Maybe that's a strength for some (the whole album flow thing) but it doesn't work for me.
...they seem more jagged than normal!!!Pure chaos.
end of SON/beginning of AOTS = :hefdaddy
...they seem more jagged than normal!!!
end of SON/beginning of AOTS = :hefdaddy
(https://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1322/img0499dz.jpg)NNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
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I'm dying to take a look at the vinyl (PURPLE) but I'm keeping it sealed. :sadpanda:
https://www.theprp.com/2012/02/03/news/between-the-buried-and-me-to-hit-the-studio-in-may/
:D
NOT SOON ENOUGH
NOT SOON ENOUGH
Not soon enough, indeed.
But at the same time, don't rush and turn out a shitty album.
Imposable.
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THESE RAINBOWS!?I...don't...appreciate...your...colorful...vocabulary...young...man.
COLORS!
Oh yes. Start the hype machine, baby.
This band is one of the best, ever. Period.
I hate to say it, but I've kinda sorta lost every ounce of interest I had in this band. Even their older stuff I never find myself listening to.
This band is one of the best, ever. Period.
Based on a lot of recommendations on the board for Colors, I had tried to get into the album for a few weeks now. I really, really like what is going on with the instruments. But I just cannot get past the vocals. They sound so . . . I don't know the right word . . . juvenile? Kills the whole thing for me. Would really like to hear an instrumental only version of the album. I assume all their albums have a similar vocal delivery?
Based on a lot of recommendations on the board for Colors, I had tried to get into the album for a few weeks now. I really, really like what is going on with the instruments. But I just cannot get past the vocals. They sound so . . . I don't know the right word . . . juvenile? Kills the whole thing for me. Would really like to hear an instrumental only version of the album. I assume all their albums have a similar vocal delivery?
I haven't given up on it yet. As you can see from my avatar I'm into Mastadon, and Opeth is one of my top five bands (ALL their material). So I am no stranger to harsh vocals. It's just something about the vocals with BTBAM that I'm not quite getting. Hopefully it will click as I said I am really digging the other components.Give their album The Great Misdirect a try. It's a bit proggier, and has a much better balance of clean to harsh vocals.
With 50% as good music as their previous outputs.
It's also their best album. :DWith 50% as good music as their previous outputs.
Well, while there are different opinions on The Great Misdirect and how good it is, it probably is a good starting point for someone already into bunch of progressive stuff. :P
I hate to say it, but I've kinda sorta lost every ounce of interest I had in this band. Even their older stuff I never find myself listening to.
It's my favourite as well, although Colors is also bloody great.It's also their best album. :DWith 50% as good music as their previous outputs.
Well, while there are different opinions on The Great Misdirect and how good it is, it probably is a good starting point for someone already into bunch of progressive stuff. :P
It's my favourite as well, although Colors is also bloody great.It's also their best album. :DWith 50% as good music as their previous outputs.
Well, while there are different opinions on The Great Misdirect and how good it is, it probably is a good starting point for someone already into bunch of progressive stuff. :P
jammindude- check out Selkies: The Endless Obsession off Alaska.
They actually do song structures.
If you think about it, and you gotta really pay attention but for example
Swim to the Moon has an intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, long instrumental section, chorus, ending. This same formula is in other songs too but there is just too much going on to realize. It feels like they don't do song structures but a lot of times they do.
But do these guys have any *actual songs*??? (besides V/WW of course...I havn't heard *anything* else they've done that seems to approach the structure of that piece)
Listening to Swim to the Moon right now! :metal
Holy crap!!!
Ants of the Sky = best song on Colors. :hefdaddy
Ants of the Sky = best song on Colors. :hefdaddyFollowed closely by White Walls and then Sun Of Nothing.
Swim to the Moon
Obfuscation/Disease, Injury, Madness/Fossil Genera
Mirrors/Desert of Song
Swim to the Moon
Obfuscation/Disease, Injury, Madness/Fossil Genera
Mirrors/Desert of Song
not sure why, but i feel like Mirrors would be a total Zantera song.
I have a massive boner right now
someone please fill me in (my work blocks some image hosting sites, so all i see is a blank post)
I have a massive boner right now
This.
someone please fill me in (my work blocks some image hosting sites, so all i see is a blank post)
The Parallax Part 2: Future Sequence
October 9, 2012
They said it clocks in at around 72 minutes.....longest album to date! :hefdaddy :metal
They said it clocks in at around 72 minutes.....longest album to date! :hefdaddy :metalFUCK YEAH :metal
From Blabbermouth:
https://blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=176812
Hey, does anyone know how long each band on summer slaughter plays for? I want to see BTBAM and periphery, but I don't like the other bands much. Anyone seen the tour last year or the year before?Seeing how late BTBAM is (second to last band), they should get 45-60 minutes at least. Periphery is 4th to last, so they should definitely get more than 30-45 minutes. I managed to get $30 tickets to the Cleveland show and I'm only going for BTBAM and Periphery, but I think that price is worth it. BTBAM and Periphery are supposed to be playing some new tunes on this tour.
Sweet, thanks man. :tupYou're welcome! :metal
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I'd have to say the Periphery release was my most anticipated, but this BTBAM album will definitely be giving the Periphery album the run for its money in the eventual 'album of the year' title, imho.*snip*
the most anticipated release of the year, can't wait. Love this band with a passion :tup
SO stoked for this. Will probably easily be best album of the year.
Here is a decent recording of the new song, Telos:metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-uTIPndKso
SPOILER WARNING: It's awesome and heavy as fuu...!! :metal
Btbam is the best band with screaming, by far
This sounds like a completely different style independent of Parallax I. That's a good thing. Keep them distinct!
This sounds like a completely different style independent of Parallax I. That's a good thing. Keep them distinct!
This
This sounds like a completely different style independent of Parallax I. That's a good thing. Keep them distinct!
This
Fuck yes. I love the minute of the song (Telos?) I've heard thus far but I'm about to stream it so I can, y'know, actually understand it. Ohhh man that track list sounds sexy as a buckfutt.
The more I listen to this song, the more comfortable I am in saying that BTBAM are my favorite band.
What was actually really cool.
So... who is getting the space suit pre-order package? ;D Looks cool. Nothing like listeng to new BTBAM in your custom made space suit while eating some space ice cream.
I'd buy the shit out of BTBAM boatshoes.
Listened twice bit lost interest both times. Dunno if I could stomach a whole album of this. Fairly unremarkable.
Listened twice bit lost interest both times. Dunno if I could stomach a whole album of this. Fairly unremarkable.
I think you're the only one here with that opinion as of now. Personally I think it's a step up and I cannot wait for the rest.
Listened twice bit lost interest both times. Dunno if I could stomach a whole album of this. Fairly unremarkable.
not so sure that's orcus' problem, jammindude...pretty sure he's a former fan, or atleast a fan of some of their previous work.
the ol' TGM debate...
i would probably side with you jammindude, in that i most likely lean towards TGM over Colors...but both are so damn near 10 outta 10 for me, it doesn't make much of a difference (not leaning much either way, so basically i'm completely upright...just as BTBAM should leave me).
Reporting live from House of Blues in Dallas. BTBAM should take the stage any moment now. Excitement level: over 9,000.
surely someone's gonna put telos in their top 5/10 list.
Anyone else loving the bass drop that happens for about a measure around 7:20 in Telos?
Also, All Bodies probably has the best chorus of any BTBAM song.
I'm not even sure which one is the chorus again. I find Alaska to be slightly overrated among BTBAM fans actually. And I do mean that SLIGHTLY, because I still very much like the album. But I listened to Silent Circus yesterday and I would almost say that it's equal to Alaska. Colors remains my favorite though.
I've been to two BTBAM shows now and I still haven't seen Selkies.
BTBAM always seems to have great bands as supporting acts, so it should be great to see them in the US.
Well, if they do a tour in the US, then they should play for at least 1.5 hours, and will probably have an awesome band opening for them. But even if the opening band isn't good, I would definitely pay to see BTBAM play for that long.BTBAM always seems to have great bands as supporting acts, so it should be great to see them in the US.
Too bad they can't get decent bands to open up for.
I would *LOVE* to see BTBAM live again (the last time was Prog Nation) but I am not paying full price to watch BTBAM for a half hour, and then have to sit through Cannibal Corpse and Goatwhore (as well as other garbage shock/death bands). :tdwn :yeahright
I honestly don't get why BTBAM gets lumped in with these crap bands. I mean, yes I see that they do carry *elements* of extreme metal, but they have advanced so far beyond that...that it's to the point of not even being related any more.
It would be like Yes opening up for Pete Seeger.
BTBAM always seems to have great bands as supporting acts, so it should be great to see them in the US.
Too bad they can't get decent bands to open up for.
I would *LOVE* to see BTBAM live again (the last time was Prog Nation) but I am not paying full price to watch BTBAM for a half hour, and then have to sit through Cannibal Corpse and Goatwhore (as well as other garbage shock/death bands). :tdwn :yeahright
I honestly don't get why BTBAM gets lumped in with these crap bands. I mean, yes I see that they do carry *elements* of extreme metal, but they have advanced so far beyond that...that it's to the point of not even being related any more.
It would be like Yes opening up for Pete Seeger.
>:(BTBAM always seems to have great bands as supporting acts, so it should be great to see them in the US.
Too bad they can't get decent bands to open up for.
I would *LOVE* to see BTBAM live again (the last time was Prog Nation) but I am not paying full price to watch BTBAM for a half hour, and then have to sit through Cannibal Corpse and Goatwhore (as well as other garbage shock/death bands). :tdwn :yeahright
I honestly don't get why BTBAM gets lumped in with these crap bands. I mean, yes I see that they do carry *elements* of extreme metal, but they have advanced so far beyond that...that it's to the point of not even being related any more.
It would be like Yes opening up for Pete Seeger.
And BTBAM does have a lot of similarities with the bands on SS. They all have the same "extreme metal" elements and core traits that make them similar musically, although I think periphery might be an exception to this rule.
but I am not paying full price to watch BTBAM for a half hour, and then have to sit through Cannibal Corpse and Goatwhore (as well as other garbage shock/death bands). :tdwn :yeahright
Not sure if the band has any fans in Australia on this site, but some tour dates:
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This album sounds like it might actually be better than Colors.... :metal
the fact that this album isn't out yet is conclusive proof that life is unfair
I just re-bought Colors yesterday. I'm finding a lot more parts that I'm getting into. I think I'm really becoming a convert.
One thing that sticks out to me is that the most memorable parts of the album are the epic sweeping clean parts. I mean, all the riffs are incredible. But when you walk away from Ants of the Sky, what do you walk away humming to yourself?
SLEEEEEPP OOON
FLYYYYY OOOON
IN YOUR MIND....YOU CAN FLY
Same thing with Sun of Nothing and White Walls...the most memorable parts are the clean parts. And there's actually more structure to it than I originally gave it credit for. Is that the theme of Sun of Nothing played on piano at the end of White Walls???
I disagree only because I feel like (having gone back and given TSC a spin now) that the "death to clean" ratio is leaning a bit more toward the clean (and/or bizarre) with every progressive album. So I personally see that as the band growing and maturing and tweeking their sound with each subsequent release.Couldn't have said it better. I agree 100%.
Even bands that *do* grow and progress don't often have *DRASTIC* changes from album to album. Take Rush. The difference between Hemispheres and Signals is night and day. Between Hemisperes and PeW was a change...but not really that drastic. Yes, there were changes...but the two epics on PeW would have been right at home on Hemispheres. PeW and MP was extremely similar...but the way MP ends blends into Signals very nicely. So you have a nice gradual change of progression by degrees.
I see a pretty big difference between these new samples and TSC....but the progression from album to album is more subtle.
Playing devil's advocate here...the heavy sections CAN be monotonous sometimes. I understand the criticism. I just don't care, because I love Tommy's growls.
I've never listened to Obituary. Can you give me a song example?
Playing devil's advocate here...the heavy sections CAN be monotonous sometimes. I understand the criticism. I just don't care, because I love Tommy's growls.
Personal preference but I see nothing admirable in a band becoming complacent. We're going on, what, the 4th album of the same old?I think now I can surely say their peak was Colors. They progressed so much from the S/T to Colors and have not progressed at all since then. I'm not saying this album will suck I will probably love it and play almost exclusively for months. Complacent might not be the right word but I think their trying too much to do weird quirky things and based off Bloom... it's about time to go back to their roots in my opinion.
Personal preference but I see nothing admirable in a band becoming complacent. We're going on, what, the 4th album of the same old?I think now I can surely say their peak was Colors. They progressed so much from the S/T to Colors and have not progressed at all since then. I'm not saying this album will suck I will probably love it and play almost exclusively for months. Complacent might not be the right word but I think their trying too much to do weird quirky things and based off Bloom... it's about time to go back to their roots in my opinion.
Huh? TGM was a mess, songwriting and arrangement wise.Agree to disagree.
Huh? TGM was a mess, songwriting and arrangement wise.Agree to disagree.
The Great Misdirect has more structure to it than Colors does, and nobody complains about it on that album... :yeahrightThat's because just about everyone loves Colors and the structure of the songs is a trivial issue to most listeners because the rest is so great.
The only song I have that problem with is Fossil Genera. pretty damn generic.
Why would you use yellow font, you monster :sadpanda:
You should. Beneath the Surface looks soooooo much better.
You should. Beneath the Surface looks soooooo much better.
this x1000000000
Fuck it, just listen to any album besides the debut. You can't go wrong.
I'm new to BTBAM. So far, the only album I've listened to is Colors. What album(s) do you guys recommend me to introduce me a bit to BTBAM?
Fuck it, just listen to any album besides the debut. You can't go wrong.
Debut album is boss.
Huh? TGM was a mess, songwriting and arrangement wise.
I however find Fossil Genera to be the absolute best song on that album.Same here.
The thing I like about Fossil is it has some of the most heaviest parts on the album. The beginning is just awful and the ending is pretty cool .
The thing I like about Fossil is it has some of the most heaviest parts on the album. The beginning is just awful and the ending is pretty cool .
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The thing I like about Fossil is it has some of the most heaviest parts on the album. The beginning is just awful and the ending is pretty cool .
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I think pretty much all tracks on TGM are tied for best on the album. 10/10.
Desert Of Song rocks.Indeed, it does.
HUGE BTBAM new coming next week. That's all I'm going to say.News? Go on... :corn
Ok Ok, I will say its a US tour, but I'm not saying who is on it or when or where it starts. But I will be there if that says anything at all.I will be there as well. I heard they are playing the entire new album in full.
Ok Ok, I will say its a US tour, but I'm not saying who is on it or when or where it starts. But I will be there if that says anything at all.Devin Townsend and Gojira.
HUGE BTBAM new coming next week. That's all I'm going to say.
FUCK YES.Ok Ok, I will say its a US tour, but I'm not saying who is on it or when or where it starts. But I will be there if that says anything at all.I will be there as well. I heard they are playing the entire new album in full.
Ok Ok, I will say its a US tour, but I'm not saying who is on it or when or where it starts. But I will be there if that says anything at all.I will be there as well. I heard they are playing the entire new album in full.
Ok Ok, I will say its a US tour, but I'm not saying who is on it or when or where it starts. But I will be there if that says anything at all.Devin Townsend and Gojira.
Make it happen.
Neurosis and The Ocean?
Please be Agalloch.
Anathema or Isis?
If it's Isis I would literally explode.But I doubt it.
I would think Pelican, Cult of Luna, Russian Circles, or Mouth of the Architect. Or maybe Rosetta?
If you tell us we'll start posting in your radio show thread :)
Pelican or Cult of Luna
Russian Circles
Russian Circles
You said they toured with Alcest? Maybe Katatonia then? Probably not if Russian Circles is the main support. Maybe Heirs?
Enslaved or Junius, then. Probably Junius.
Also, I'm guessing the first date will either be in raleigh (hopefully) or charlotte. gotta get that hometown show in there.
What is Junius
That does explain why Metal Blade just sent me the album to my email.
Oh you too? It's weird though mine isn't loading right, could you send me yours?
oh my god
i cant stop cumming
its everywhere
This album is just so amazing.YUPoh my god
i cant stop cumming
its everywhere
I just re-bought Colors yesterday. I'm finding a lot more parts that I'm getting into. I think I'm really becoming a convert.
One thing that sticks out to me is that the most memorable parts of the album are the epic sweeping clean parts. I mean, all the riffs are incredible. But when you walk away from Ants of the Sky, what do you walk away humming to yourself?
SLEEEEEPP OOON
FLYYYYY OOOON
IN YOUR MIND....YOU CAN FLY
Same thing with Sun of Nothing and White Walls...the most memorable parts are the clean parts. And there's actually more structure to it than I originally gave it credit for. Is that the theme of Sun of Nothing played on piano at the end of White Walls???
I feel like I'm pretty much done with BTBAM at this point :-\Really? Sure they're never going to top Colors but their material is still miles better than 99% of metal bands. And this new album is fantastic
Uhh..nope, I mean yes BTBAM are great but that's just not true in the least bit.I feel like I'm pretty much done with BTBAM at this point :-\but their material is still miles better than 99% of metal bands.
The guitar work on this album is phenomenal.Yea, its really good. :metal
Gotta say, if this doesn't get those that lost interest back on board, I don't know what will. This may not top Colors (or it might; I'm leaning towards an equality at this point) but it's god damn close. Most certainly their most inspired, driven efford since Colors. I'm about to go for a lil slow ride and spin this shit once more...which will be the fifth listen. By now it's started to get me all horny and shit. Musical boners.
does anybody else hear a harpsichord in the first minute of Astral Body? If so, I love this album, it's one of my favorite instruments.Yeah I hear it too.
Tommy has the sexiest voice in metal.
Tommy has the sexiest voice in metal.Yeah, not quite. He fits the band perfectly, but when it comes to metal as a whole there's so many better singers out there it's almost staggering.
....I meant sexy in the literal sense.Uh...I still don't get it. :P
I'm thinking this new album tops Colors, and I think Colors is a masterpiece.Honestly, this. Although I can't say for sure yet.
I'm thinking this new album tops Colors, and I think Colors is a masterpiece.
There's too much going on not to like a good chunk. It's such a dense album.This is what I love about this album. Every listen is allowing me to discover something new I never caught before. :metal
That's generally the case with all BTBAM albums.Agreed. There is just something about this record that really has me excited. TGM was the first album by BTBAM that I actually was waiting for them to release and this is, by far, the best first listening experience on a new album from BTBAM, imho.
Anyway, I've listened to this one 5 or 6 times now, and it keeps getting better.
Even though it's corny the "Jet propulsion disengage" part at the end of SFP has really really grown on me.I actually really love this part. One of the highlights of the album to me.
Theres two chords around 11:30 or so on SFP that every time I hear I expect to hear the outro to White Walls.I heard this the other day, too. It reminds me of that every single time. :metal
Melting City might be my favorite BTBAM song ever. So fucking good. :metal
Man, seems like I'm the only one that holds off until the release date. Great to positive things nevertheless.
Man, seems like I'm the only one that holds off until the release date. Great to positive things nevertheless.
NAH man I'm holding off as well despite the glowing reviews! Can't wait to hear it.
Ditto.Man, seems like I'm the only one that holds off until the release date. Great to positive things nevertheless.
NAH man I'm holding off as well despite the glowing reviews! Can't wait to hear it.
Because it makes them better people. More holy. More patient. More lovely. More smell-goody. They're just better, man. I mean, they fucking wait for an album to be released and we just steal, steal, steal (cause we certainly we can't go out and buy it still, that'd be fucked up). Just bow before them and suck their dicks; their semen even tastes better than ours. FUCK, I WANNA BE YOU GUYS WHO WAITED.Yes, I am a much better person than you knuckle-dragging, sloped forehead, unibrow bearing, grunting, primitive, cow-fucking leak downloaders.
:azn: :angel:
This place is racist and doesn't have an Asian Angel smiley so I had to use two. Please forgive me.
I've noticed that as well which is why I'm digging a lot of the individual parts of songs but there are few that tie it all together. "Lay Your Ghosts To Rest" does a nice job of containing itself. Still, I'm liking quite a bit of this album I must say.
Yeah I loved that AMA. Had many chuckles.
Goodbye To Everything (Reprise) would like a word with you. Dat intro...dat solo...Mmm! So shmex.
Obfuscation.
Obfuscation.I like that song, but the guitar solo in it is terrible, absolutely terrible
Uh, what? It's really actually pretty awesome. It's much more interesting than some of his other solos.This guy knows what's up.
Yeah no.Obfuscation.I like that song, but the guitar solo in it is terrible, absolutely terrible
Obfuscation.I like that song, but the guitar solo in it is terrible, absolutely terrible
Opening with White Walls? Do they always do that? Seems like an odd choice.They've only done that on Summer Slaughter and the current tour. They start right at the beginning of White Walls, no Viridian introduction. And by the way, it works VERY well. Just imagine the venue being dark and nothing is going on and then the intro of White Walls just hits.
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Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen cover)
Obfuscation.I like that song, but the guitar solo in it is terrible, absolutely terrible
I'm hoping for a DVD when they play both Parallax parts in order.
I quite like the lyrics on this record, better than the last couple.
i say play em in album(s) order...but definitely include swim to the moon.
Okay holy shit I am pissed off.
I saw that gig at Leeds, but it was listed as Periphery headlining and BTBAM supporting, so I decided to not go.
But everywhere else is saying BTBAM headlined? WTF?
This is two years in a row i've missed BTBAM.
Anyone else find that the guitar solos at around 10:30 in Silent Flight Parliament kill the mood of the previous 45 seconds of buildup? I think it might be because they don't really resolve into anything aside from just existing.
best album ever
Seems LYGTR is the overall favorite. I love it. However, I'm also tempted to say GTE could be my favorite. I'm a sucker for their soft stuff.
this album is so good, agghhh. Melting City might be the best song BTBAM have made since Sun of Nothing.This. This. This.
also TioJorge who said the "jet propulsion disengage" part was cheesy? I absolutely adore it.
this album is so good, agghhh. Melting City might be the best song BTBAM have made since Sun of Nothing.
also TioJorge who said the "jet propulsion disengage" part was cheesy? I absolutely adore it.
this album is so good, agghhh. Melting City might be the best song BTBAM have made since Sun of Nothing.
also TioJorge who said the "jet propulsion disengage" part was cheesy? I absolutely adore it.
Also, I've heard some people say that the chants at the end of Silent Flight Parilment (jet propulsion disengage) is kind of cheesy...I thought that too, but last night, listening to it with my headphones on while my friend was watching Prometheus, it was fucking epic. It was kinda like a music video that could never be replicated because of the timing. I won't explain because it was towards the end of the movie so spoilers abound. Anyway, that little part of the song is so awesome. Goosebumps galore. That said, I still think the song itself is a little underwhelming barring that part. But Lay Your Ghosts To Rest and Telos more than make up for it.
yes, Tio, that's why I asked you WHO said it, in my post :PAnd the guy who said it replied to you. ;)
yes, Tio, that's why I asked you WHO said it, in my post :PAnd the guy who said it replied to you. ;)
After getting the actual copy and seeing the amazing artwork and being able to actually read the lyrics, I think it's safe to say I love this album even more lol.Same, I love the artwork for it!
Anyone else find that the guitar solos at around 10:30 in Silent Flight Parliament kill the mood of the previous 45 seconds of buildup? I think it might be because they don't really resolve into anything aside from just existing.
....Still think the best part of the album is the 7:00 minute mark in Telos to the end.
...also quick note: while Colors had melodies placed throughout the songs, the melodies were usually reserved for more quiet parts or to build up to something epic, while I feel like this album uses clean sections and melodic singing a lot more often, which provides a sort of balance. Just thought it was interesting.
best album ever
I don't exactly feel that way, but god dammit I can't argue against it.
What the fucks a newspaper?
I'm not understanding all the love for Melting City. Don't get me wrong, I like it, but it's my least favorite of the longer songs on the album.
Lay Your Ghosts To Rest is god tier
I just finished my first listen. This one... it's going to be a bit of a grower, isn't it? It just sounded like more of the same old BTBAM, only lacking a truly epic clean vocal moment like the "Sleep on..." bit of Ants Of The Sky or Lunar Wilderness' finale. Still plenty of awesome instrumental moments, though they seemed a bit all over the place. Also, some bits reminded me of Opeth, and I think there were a few musical nods to last years EP, and I like continuity like that.
I must say that while I do enjoy a lot of the parts of the album there are no real songs that stick out and for one major reason: the riffs and segways are so interchangable from song to song. For the longer songs you will definitely have those 2-3 minutes of themes and riffs that repeat and come back at the beginning and end of songs to tie everything together but for those 6-7 minutes in the middle literally any riff from any of the long songs could insert quite easily into any of the other long songs. I'm fairly certain that if in someone switched a couple of minutes of "Extremophile Elite" and "Telos", to someone hearing the album for the first time there wouldn't be a "hey this doesn't sound like it fits" moment. There's a definite sound for the album but it doesn't vary a whole lot in its randomness and as a result a lot of the longer songs don't really get any real identity, which is something I have a problem with. Outside of a couple tracks I feel like I'm going to have difficulty actually figuring out what song is what if I was at a concert and they started playing something from this album.
It's about you, Nel. Fucking night owls.
P.S. Not you fucking a night owl. Although that could be an entire concept album as well.
So what's this album about, anyway? I'm looking through the booklet, and all I'm getting is basically two human/robot astronauts meet an owl god in space and then decide to kill themselves. :| And then we rock the fuck out. :metal
That guitar solo in Silent Flight Parliament....... :hefdaddy
So I enjoy the album, a lot, but one thing that will always keep me from LOVING this band is the growl vocals. There's little to no dynamics to them and while they can be powerful they're sort taking a back place to the music, which kind of annoys me. That being said, they're competent enough and he's has amazing clean vocals along with being competent enough as a growler anyhow, I just sometimes wish the growl vocals were more prominent and dynamic.
So I enjoy the album, a lot, but one thing that will always keep me from LOVING this band is the growl vocals. There's little to no dynamics to them and while they can be powerful they're sort taking a back place to the music, which kind of annoys me. That being said, they're competent enough and he's has amazing clean vocals along with being competent enough as a growler anyhow, I just sometimes wish the growl vocals were more prominent and dynamic.
I agree. Alaska has great harsh vocals, but they quickly went downhill in Colours.
Has anyone criticizing the growls actually listened to Telos? :DYea, this. I really don't see how they're 'out of place.'
No but seriously, I'm really loving the harsh vocals on this album, they feel really genuine at times, but then again I've always loved Tommy's vocals in all regards so what the heck.
Has anyone criticizing the growls actually listened to Telos? :DYea, this. I really don't see how they're 'out of place.'
No but seriously, I'm really loving the harsh vocals on this album, they feel really genuine at times, but then again I've always loved Tommy's vocals in all regards so what the heck.
Has anyone criticizing the growls actually listened to Telos? :DYea, this. I really don't see how they're 'out of place.'
No but seriously, I'm really loving the harsh vocals on this album, they feel really genuine at times, but then again I've always loved Tommy's vocals in all regards so what the heck.
Telos has some of his best harsh vocals ever. He sounds genuinely pissed in that song.
I could understand most of what he was saying on TGM and Colors when he was growling, but on FS I can't really understand a lot of the lyrics just listening to the growls. they're a lot more brutal and deep on this album, which I like a lot.
Has anyone criticizing the growls actually listened to Telos? :DOh I've listened to the album many times now so yeah. What I'm really getting at is that compared to other vocalists such as Spencer from Periphery, or Chuck Schuldiner from Death, or hell for the sake of it Mikael Akerdfeldt from Opeth his growls never really vary, they match pretty much at all times, where as the other vocalists I mention have really dynamic and differing growls. Tommy really doesn't do it much at all,
No but seriously, I'm really loving the harsh vocals on this album, they feel really genuine at times, but then again I've always loved Tommy's vocals in all regards so what the heck.
Just came home from the concert, mind was blown. The Safety Fire wasn't as good as on CD, but still an enjoyable performance. They do have the potential to become something awesome with time, the debut is very solid and a few more albums like it, and it's on. Periphery were awesome as expected, but BTBAM were the highlight of the evening obviously.
Setlist wasn't that surprising, I'm a bit sad I didn't get Lay Your Ghost to Rest, but maybe next time.
1. White Walls
2. Astral Body
3. Sun of Nothing
4. Disease, Injury, Madness
5. Telos
6. Fossil Genera - A Feed From Cloud Mountain
--Encore--
7. Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen-cover)
8. Mordecai
:metal
Rumored but oh my fuck if its real:
https://www.metalinjection.net/tour-dates/coheed-and-cambria-between-the-buried-and-me-rumored-for-early-2013-tour
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I just looked it up... That's Coheed and Cambria, not BTBAM. Anyways, thanks for the recommendation. I've never heard it; it's pretty good. More poppy power metal than prog, to be honest, though.
I've heard much of this band, but never listened-- any song recommendations for a first-time listen?White Walls.
Well thats too bad I'm not necessarily a fan of the growls/screams myself.
I don't dislike them enough though that they ruin any of the songs for me they're just kind of there.
Listen to the last 3 minutes of Sun Of Nothing, and the last 3 minutes of White Walls also around the 8 minute mark of Ants Of The Sky.
Lucidity, treat the vocals like another instrument. Seriously.
Just came home from the concert, mind was blown. The Safety Fire wasn't as good as on CD, but still an enjoyable performance. They do have the potential to become something awesome with time, the debut is very solid and a few more albums like it, and it's on. Periphery were awesome as expected, but BTBAM were the highlight of the evening obviously.
Setlist wasn't that surprising, I'm a bit sad I didn't get Lay Your Ghost to Rest, but maybe next time.
1. White Walls
2. Astral Body
3. Sun of Nothing
4. Disease, Injury, Madness
5. Telos
6. Fossil Genera - A Feed From Cloud Mountain
--Encore--
7. Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen-cover)
8. Mordecai
:metal
Great quote. However, they also make some of the most beautiful, melodic music. Just for shits and giggles, if you're still reading this thread, Lucidity; listen to Mirrors. It is by far and away one of my favorite pieces of music in recorded history. Just the instrumental work alone is gorgeous; it meshes together so well and flows smoother than a behbeh's bottom. The jazz influences are notable, but it's their own take on the genre that makes it so unique. Even if you only can say you like one song from them, that one song can sustain this entire band. Oh, and you can fast forward through the first four minutes of Mordecai, but listen to the last three or four minutes of that song as well. It will tell you all you need to know about this band...that the growls are there for a very specific reason and it isn't just to be metal. Tommy jokes a lot, as do most of the guys in this band, clearly; but the more serious side is hidden between the quips. They are most definitely a metal band, but that doesn't mean that they don't have some of the most beautiful quiet, lovely, soft, comforting music you'll ever find.
P.S.
UUUNDERRR IIIT AAAALLLLLL! Yeah, Lay Your Ghosts To Rest is my song of the year.
Go!I don't really know/like their albums pre-Colours but I'm excited for then (and to see how you guys think post-Colours compares with pre) :)
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=34523.msg1431275#new
BTBAM don't have screaming vocals, do they?...
I just tried out White Walls, and honestly, it sounded pretty bad... I'm listening to Selkies now; sounds very promising.
Update: Continued listening with Selkies reveals that it isn't too different from White Walls... The first minute or so is very good, but I honestly cannot stand screaming/growling vocals. I don't think BTBAM is the band for me.
Update 2: I'm listening to the intro of the album Colors, and it sounds great, a lot like Muse, actually.
...Nope. Growls came in, blast beats came in... Grr.
If anyone remembers the page worth of rumor talking I made about the BTBAm tour......it has since changed....
Coheed & Cambria/BTBAM/RUssian Circles North American Tour
Dates coming soon!
Rumored but oh my fuck if its real:
https://www.metalinjection.net/tour-dates/coheed-and-cambria-between-the-buried-and-me-rumored-for-early-2013-tour
I'm really surprised to hear that you think it's as 'all over the place' as TGM, because I completely agree that TGM is afflicted with that issue, but to me every single section and every moment is memorable on this album; I think they have come leaps and bounds ahead of TGM in that aspect. Everyone hears things differently though, I just can't fathom that; I have the opposite problem, I can't stop humming/singing and thinking about the melodies in this album. Very memorable.Oh no, I don't really think that, I was just saying that those were common complaints of TGM which I think apply more to FS (ie the constant changing of riffs and sounds is much, much more present on FS IMO).
I absolutely love SFP, such an epic end to the album. That and Lay Your Ghosts To Rest are my favourites I think.
Silent Flight Parliament owns everyone's faces.And Telos and Melting City. I love those three.
Silent Flight Parliament owns everyone's faces.And Telos and Melting City. I love those three.
Looks like there's a February trip to DC in my future :D
It says on their official website "Coheed & Cambria w/ BTBAM" so I guess they're the opening act??That would be the best case scenario for me. Get to see all of Parallax without having to sit through Coheed? Yes please.
Also, is this the tour that they'll be playing all of Parallax II on?
It says on their official website "Coheed & Cambria w/ BTBAM" so I guess they're the opening act??That would be the best case scenario for me. Get to see all of Parallax without having to sit through Coheed? Yes please.
Also, is this the tour that they'll be playing all of Parallax II on?
Ok, so the C&C site has a couple of dates not listed that were on BTBAM's announcement...
They are:
Mar 07 2013 - Lake Buena Vista, FL - House of Blues
Mar 08 2013 - Miami Beach, FL - The Fillmore
Mar 10 2013 - Charlotte, NC - The Fillmore Charlotte
Mar 11 2013 - Philadelphia, PA Electric Factory
They probably aren't cancelled, but they may be without Coheed? The BTBAM site still has them. Fingers crossed for BTBAM headlining the NC date.
I'm really loving the feel of the entirety of the story of Parallax. The first one is just as amazing, I hadn't listened to it since two was announced and I just listened to the entire thing in one foul swoop and it gives a different, more all-encompassing feel. I love it. It would be so very amazing to have a show of the whole thing, includingSun Of NothingSwim To The Moon. That's just crazy though...but maybe one day.
Its funny reading people here saying "ugh, coheed." And on Coheeds fansite you got "ugh, BTBAM" good thing I enjoy both bands.It's great for people who like both bands. Personally, I think it's one of the oddest pairings I've ever seen. Sure, they're both progressive metal, but they're different in practically every other way.
Its funny reading people here saying "ugh, coheed." And on Coheeds fansite you got "ugh, BTBAM" good thing I enjoy both bands.It's great for people who like both bands. Personally, I think it's one of the oddest pairings I've ever seen. Sure, they're both progressive metal, but they're different in practically every other way.
Yeah, an album release show would be the bomb.Ok, so the C&C site has a couple of dates not listed that were on BTBAM's announcement...
They are:
Mar 07 2013 - Lake Buena Vista, FL - House of Blues
Mar 08 2013 - Miami Beach, FL - The Fillmore
Mar 10 2013 - Charlotte, NC - The Fillmore Charlotte
Mar 11 2013 - Philadelphia, PA Electric Factory
They probably aren't cancelled, but they may be without Coheed? The BTBAM site still has them. Fingers crossed for BTBAM headlining the NC date.
Oh god please be the case. I can't stand Coheed and Cambria, so a Charlotte show with just BTBAM (which would be their home show) would be absolutely perfect.
I find it too mellow and too melodic.
Its funny reading people here saying "ugh, coheed." And on Coheeds fansite you got "ugh, BTBAM" good thing I enjoy both bands.
Melting City is amazing.
Melting City is amazing.
Melting City is amazing.
This. Probably the 2nd best song on the album. Telos is best.
I wish BtB&M would make an album full of songs like Goodbye to Everything and Mirrors
Oh yeah... I remember reading the review in Decibel and just kind of backlogging that... I'll definitely be giving that a listen today.I wish BtB&M would make an album full of songs like Goodbye to Everything and Mirrors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_%28Thomas_Giles_album%29
I wish BtB&M would make an album full of songs like Goodbye to Everything and Mirrors
I wish BtB&M would make an album full of songs like Goodbye to Everything and Mirrors
Said this after listening to Mirrors when the album first came out. Mirrors as I've said earlier I think is my favorite song they've done since White Walls.
I wish BtB&M would make an album full of songs like Goodbye to Everything and Mirrors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_%28Thomas_Giles_album%29
...I hope BTBAM does a headline tour in North America soon. I have no desire to see them play before Coheed, unfortunately.
Ugh, screw Coheed. I'd much rather have a 100% BTBAM show or at the very least a band that is a bit more similar in genres to BTBAM.Yeah me too, but I really just want to see BTBAM.
BEBOP SKIPPITY TIPPITY TAP THOSE TOES.
TGM>P2
...says the guy with the "goodbye to everything" pic.
:lol Buncha weirdos.
Parallax II rapes TGM for the most part (barring the invincible Mirrors) and Colors is so close with Future Sequence that they're scissoring. I think I like FS the most, but I'd like to add that recently if I've been listening to Parallax at all, it's the entire saga including Hypersleep Diaries, and that makes it about a billion times more intense....
Parallax II rapes TGM
If we are doing BTBAM rankings, this is how it goes for me:This except switch TGM with Alaska.
Colors
Parallax II
Parallax I
Alaska
The Great Misdirect
The Silent Circus
BTBAM
The Anatomy Of...
That said there isn't a BTBAM album that isn't beyond phenomenal to me.
I am so happy to be the age that I am. I was raised around (and grew up appreciating) more melodic stuff....but got myself into some *really* heavy stuff at an early age.
As a result, I am so happy that I can really appreciate BOTH extremes in the musical spectrum....and that I don't find myself in the "C&C vs. BTBAM" debate on the recent tour. I honestly adore both bands because I'm into both types of music.
***I LOVE MUSIC SO MUCH***!!!!!!!!!!!
As I get older, I do find myself just more appreciating music for music's sake. Not really looking down my nose at any music per se...(but still being fairly judgmental of certain approaches to music....i.e. Was this created for the sake of the art/music, or was this created with the primary directive of appealing to the masses and making money.)
Hey folks! Tommy here. Letting you know that we have put together a limited edition hardcover book for our new record. It has my explanation of the entire "Parallax" story, plus commentary on the process from the entire band. This gorgeous book comes with a tshirt you can only get with this bundle. We will see you all soon on the Coheed tour and we look forward to finally playing some more new material live. To a kick ass new year...
Book Notes:
- Hardcover
- 40 pages featuring full lyrics accompanied by select album art, song explanations, and the band's commentary on the writing and recording process.
- Exclusive photographs from the studio.
T-Shirt:
American Apparel tri-blend t-shirt that will only be sold in this bundle.
Starting at 9:00AM PST TOMORROW!!!
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That's actually a whole lot less than I thought it'd be.... I think I might do it. I can go a week or two without food, who needs that shit. I'll just soak up some sun rays and switch with my ethereal body on planet cheese.
What chorus?The "cut until all that is left is new material MAHSEEEEEEEELF DAY IN DAY OUT" bit. The riff underneath it is all kinds of :metal.
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I'm gonna be bumping into the dude in front of me with a total hard on and then I'll just be like dude just enjoy it it's not homo lest you make it.:clap:
Hell, I didn't even notice the Specular Reflection bit in Extremophile Elite until someone pointed it out either. :P
Yea, I agree. I noticed that particular one immediately.Hell, I didn't even notice the Specular Reflection bit in Extremophile Elite until someone pointed it out either. :P
Really? Damn. I don't always notice reprises, but that one practically bitchslaps you with how obvious it is. :p
I wonder if Dustie still shares the belief that he would rather step on nails than play Selkies. He said that a couple of years ago.That's really interesting. It's far and away one of their best songs, and it doesn't seem like it would be even remotely boring to play. I wonder what he doesn't like about it.
I wonder if Dustie still shares the belief that he would rather step on nails than play Selkies. He said that a couple of years ago.
Nobody ever warned me about the start of Roboturner. :sad:I'd recommend against listening to this then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm8zsLT29tQ
I wonder if Dustie still shares the belief that he would rather step on nails than play Selkies. He said that a couple of years ago.
I wonder if Dustie still shares the belief that he would rather step on nails than play Selkies. He said that a couple of years ago.
I wonder if Dustie still shares the belief that he would rather step on nails than play Selkies. He said that a couple of years ago.
Is there a link to this? I've been curious about it and wanted to read more about it.
I wonder if Dustie still shares the belief that he would rather step on nails than play Selkies. He said that a couple of years ago.
i believe the quote was "id actually rather step on my dick than ever play selkies again ..... with cleats"
https://youtu.be/Our1iRTrGUA?t=3m59s
My opinions on BtBaM are becoming harsher as time goes on. While I initially liked them, and still do, I'm really finding their music to lack something I can pinpoint. Maybe it's the abstract lyrics that leave me cold, or the sterile mix all the albums suffer from... I'm really not sure. I always seem to like the idea of liking BtBaM more than I actually like them.I kind of get ya, ive pin pointed to Tommy's harsh vocal, they never really vary, which leaves me out in the cold, they're not even bad, but they're not great either. I do like band as a whole a lot though
I have decided that Silent Flight Parliament is my favourite BTBAM song.
Is there any particular reason why they would all hate the song? Played it too many times? Not that fun to play?
Indeed, Mordecai is allowed to be requested incessantly. Kicks the everliving shit out of Selkies.
1. ColorsPretty much that, but swap Alaska and Silent Circus depending on my mood.
2. Parallax II: Future Sequence
3. The Great Misdirect
4. The Silent Circus
5. Alaska
6. Parallax I
7. Self-titled
1. Colors
2. Parallax II: Future Sequence
3. The Great Misdirect
4. The Silent Circus
5. Alaska
6. Parallax I
7. Self-titled
All I know is TSC is first, and Parallax I is last by a wide margin.
All I know is TSC is first, and Parallax I is last by a wide margin.
Do you listen to any other music? All you ever post in is this thread and the BTBAM survivors. Just curious.
All I know is TSC is first, and Parallax I is last by a wide margin.
Do you listen to any other music? All you ever post in is this thread and the BTBAM survivors. Just curious.
Yes I listen to a wide variety of music. I honestly really haven't checked out any other threads though. I will eventually.
CASTRATE THE FUCK
BEAT THE FUCKER TO DEATH
I'M A MAYYYOOOWWWNNNN
Hellz to the yup. Every time I revisit the album, I'm blown away by how superior it is to everything else, even their own material; which isn't to say I dislike their new stuff in any way, it's balls to the wall awesome. But it still doesn't touch the beautiful atrocities created in TSC. And yeah that riff..Mmm! Das baby makin' music. :lol Which...I've actually done. I mean, not actually made babies, but fucking to that song is pretty fierce. So was that lady... hmmm... brb.... the memories are strong... dfasifdvgbopawirvghnakjfd
There are always people who will fall for vinyl no matter how bad it sounds and how overpriced it is. It's the audio industry equivalent to homoeopathy :lolExcuse me?
There are always people who will fall for vinyl no matter how bad it sounds and how overpriced it is. It's the audio industry equivalent to homoeopathy :lol
I actually might get that. I haven't spent a dime recently and I've been making bank working all day everyday for quite a while... I think this would be a nice gift to myself along with a turn table... Hrrrm. Tempting. Now if only I can find TSC on vinyl... I've had the ending riff of The Need For Repetition on all day and I WANT.
The chorus of Lay Your Ghosts to Rest is still the best bit of music they've ever written. I got chills just from thinking about it right now.
They are coming to El Corazon in Seattle on Friday Oct 4th.I love shows like that. They perfectly capture the atmosphere of what a metal concert should be.
I really wanna go, but I'm always torn about El Corazon. It's probably *the* most infamous club venue in the entire Seattle area...all the biggest bands started there, and the film Singles was filmed there.
But that being told...it's a dive. I don't think there's any place in the club further than 50ft away, and it couldn't hold more than a few hundred people tops. But it's just kinda dirty and.... Ya. It's fitting that the new generation of "garage rock" started there...because it's *a lot* like seeing a show in a dirty garage.
I wish they were playing Studio Seven instead...but...oh well.
They are coming to El Corazon in Seattle on Friday Oct 4th.I love shows like that. They perfectly capture the atmosphere of what a metal concert should be.
I really wanna go, but I'm always torn about El Corazon. It's probably *the* most infamous club venue in the entire Seattle area...all the biggest bands started there, and the film Singles was filmed there.
But that being told...it's a dive. I don't think there's any place in the club further than 50ft away, and it couldn't hold more than a few hundred people tops. But it's just kinda dirty and.... Ya. It's fitting that the new generation of "garage rock" started there...because it's *a lot* like seeing a show in a dirty garage.
I wish they were playing Studio Seven instead...but...oh well.
They are coming to El Corazon in Seattle on Friday Oct 4th.I agree with the poster who said that you're description actually made this show sound all the more awesome :lol I'm gonna be catching them on the 3rd in Portland for sure and I'm now kinda tempted to trek up north the next day and see them again :metal
I really wanna go, but I'm always torn about El Corazon. It's probably *the* most infamous club venue in the entire Seattle area...all the biggest bands started there, and the film Singles was filmed there.
But that being told...it's a dive. I don't think there's any place in the club further than 50ft away, and it couldn't hold more than a few hundred people tops. But it's just kinda dirty and.... Ya. It's fitting that the new generation of "garage rock" started there...because it's *a lot* like seeing a show in a dirty garage.
I wish they were playing Studio Seven instead...but...oh well.
They are coming to El Corazon in Seattle on Friday Oct 4th.I agree with the poster who said that you're description actually made this show sound all the more awesome :lol I'm gonna be catching them on the 3rd in Portland for sure and I'm now kinda tempted to trek up north the next day and see them again :metal
I really wanna go, but I'm always torn about El Corazon. It's probably *the* most infamous club venue in the entire Seattle area...all the biggest bands started there, and the film Singles was filmed there.
But that being told...it's a dive. I don't think there's any place in the club further than 50ft away, and it couldn't hold more than a few hundred people tops. But it's just kinda dirty and.... Ya. It's fitting that the new generation of "garage rock" started there...because it's *a lot* like seeing a show in a dirty garage.
I wish they were playing Studio Seven instead...but...oh well.
Well...if you had ever been to Studio Seven, you'd know what I mean. Studio Seven is another place where some of these "smaller shows" take place. It's just slightly larger and IMO much cleaner. Downstairs (where the stage is) is all ages, and then the bar is on an upper lever overlooking the stage. If you get there early, you can sit at a table on the rail and practically have a front row seat from about 12-15 feet up. I saw Hammerfall, Edguy and Into Eternity at Studio Seven. I got there very early (just after noon) and just walked in the back door and listened to soundcheck and hung out with all three bands. It was so awesome.
Are they typically considered a good live band? I only ask because I was very disappointed when I saw them open for Coheed and Cambria earlier this year. They played some of my favorite songs from their catalog, and I thought my ears might bleed.
Finally listened to Parallax 2 in its entirety, probably my favorite BtBaM album now.
Finally listened to Parallax 2 in its entirety, probably my favorite BtBaM album now.
Future Sequence is definitely their greatest work. :metal :tup
My new rankings based on what I've heardThis is correct. Congratulations!
P2>>>TGM>Colors>P1>Alaska
The Parallax (EP + II) > Colors >> TGM > Alaska > TSC > STProbably this for me right now.
lol at having colors anywhere but first placeColors was a step in the right direction, and is a great album, but doesn't even touch what followed it.
lol at having colors anywhere but first placeColors was a step in the right direction, and is a great album, but doesn't even touch what followed it.
I can see that with maybe the Great Misdirect (which I'd disagree with), and maybe the EP, but I still think Future Sequence was a drop in quality. All these months later and I still can't remember any standout moments like the "Sleep on" section of Ants or Desert of Song. About the only thing I ever can remember is that mock-surfer theme in Bloom. The album basically being one long song certainly didn't help much either. Album's like a giant wall of rock I just can't climb. :lolMoments like the last two minutes of Telos, and the entirety of Melting City give me multiple soundgasms.
Especially that mellow section in Melting City :heart:hearts:
A CRUSHING SOUND SOON AWAKES...
and dat riff :o
I can see that [improving upon colors] with maybe the Great Misdirect (which I'd disagree with), and maybe the EP, but I still think Future Sequence was a drop in quality. All these months later and I still can't remember any standout moments like the "Sleep on" section of Ants or Desert of Song. About the only thing I ever can remember is that mock-surfer theme in Bloom. The album basically being one long song certainly didn't help much either. Album's like a giant wall of rock I just can't climb. :lol
lol at having colors anywhere but first placeColors was a step in the right direction, and is a great album, but doesn't even touch what followed it.
Absolutely this... I really love Colors, and I really think it was the beginning of a whole new band (although, I could understand that argument for Alaska as well), but they've only gotten better...
:facepalm:
:rollin
I mean...I can't be the ONLY one who sits down and tries to figure out this "puzzle box"....can I?
(would you believe that I was in the car...in a parking lot....with a pen and paper in hand...rewinding the 9:00 section at least a dozen times...trying to count it out on paper. This is not a lie, or an exaggeration....and I live on a glimmer of hope that I'm not the only one.)
I can see that [improving upon colors] with maybe the Great Misdirect (which I'd disagree with), and maybe the EP, but I still think Future Sequence was a drop in quality. All these months later and I still can't remember any standout moments like the "Sleep on" section of Ants or Desert of Song. About the only thing I ever can remember is that mock-surfer theme in Bloom. The album basically being one long song certainly didn't help much either. Album's like a giant wall of rock I just can't climb. :lol
though i dont see either of them this way, im pretty sure people more often view colors as one song than they do future sequence. whatevs.
The only exception being Astral Body and Lay Your Ghosts to Rest...which I have heard was written as a single song, and the decision was made later to split it up. But I think it was the right call...because even though they run together, they are completely different pieces.
the lack of appreciation for Alaska is surprising :facepalm:
the lack of appreciation for Alaska is surprising :facepalm:
I still see it clearly as their 2nd best record and their most concise, focused songwriting. Colors they went a bit further, but ever since then they have been far too focused on extended chops and not song structures. Although I liked Future Sequence more than Misdirect, both of those albums suffer from a ton bloated filler. I've come to the point where I don't expect them to ever write an album again of more concise works, like they did with Alaska.
by the way, if this hasn't been posted yet, this is rather lame
https://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/drama/between-the-buried-and-me-dont-want-you-to-buy-their-next-release-or-their-old-music
I know..it's generalizing....but in three months when there's another new "fad" band that we're all talking about...and yes..from time to time I'm guilty of jumping on........and NOBODY is talking about THIS band anymore...expect an ITYS.::)
Yeah, Alaska sounds great, especially compared to Colors.
Don't know what's up with the band not liking it... ???
the lack of appreciation for Alaska is surprising :facepalm:
I still see it clearly as their 2nd best record and their most concise, focused songwriting. Colors they went a bit further, but ever since then they have been far too focused on extended chops and not song structures. Although I liked Future Sequence more than Misdirect, both of those albums suffer from a ton bloated filler. I've come to the point where I don't expect them to ever write an album again of more concise works, like they did with Alaska.
by the way, if this hasn't been posted yet, this is rather lame
https://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/drama/between-the-buried-and-me-dont-want-you-to-buy-their-next-release-or-their-old-music
Great post from top to bottom. These songs are way over extended like they don't know how to end a song. They feel like they need to add more. The filler on STTM especially hurts the song. Would love another album with well written song structures like Alaska and The Silent Circus. There's a sense of planning involved that I don't get with the newer albums. Backwards Marathon is a perfect example of how well they used to structure their songs.
Yeah, Alaska sounds great, especially compared to Colors.
Don't know what's up with the band not liking it... ???
They didn't like the way the guitars sounded after release. I think they are fine the only part I wish was kind of mixed better was the solo in Selkies. Sometimes I can barely hear it because the drums and the other guitar are louder.
Yeah, Alaska sounds great, especially compared to Colors.
Don't know what's up with the band not liking it... ???
They didn't like the way the guitars sounded after release. I think they are fine the only part I wish was kind of mixed better was the solo in Selkies. Sometimes I can barely hear it because the drums and the other guitar are louder.
That's weird, I think the guitar sounds fucking killer, at least in terms of tone.
Backwards Marathon is a perfect example of how well they used to structure their songs.
I find Alaska as a whole is a lot less than the sum of it's parts.I agree completely. All Bodies, Alaska, Selkies, and Backwards Marathon are all unbelievably good songs. Unfortunately, the album as a whole just feels underwhelming to me.
I find Alaska as a whole is a lot less than the sum of it's parts.I agree completely. All Bodies, Alaska, Selkies, and Backwards Marathon are all unbelievably good songs. Unfortunately, the album as a whole just feels underwhelming to me.
story time: was out at a local bar tonight. so my friend (tired of the country songs about tractors etc.) put on some BTBAM. a couple of dudes then approached us and were PISSED we put metal on. saying things like "sorry your daddy didn't love you" "go cut your wrists at home" etc. etc. We argued for a bit then realized they weren't smart enough to put together any sort of defense other than "this fucking music sucks" and "you wanna go outside?!?!?". Jimmies were sufficiently rustled
TL;DR some dudes wanted to fight us over Ants of the Sky.
I'm actually not surprised. I am loving BTBAM more and more every day....turning into an addict. But even I'll admit that it's not really decent for what I would call "public consumption".Sorry, going to disagree with you right there. I got into them when I was just fully getting into metal, as a wee little 15 year old. Plenty of my friends have come to like BtBaM, you don't have to be a trained musical listener to enjoy them, they just have to fit within your tastes.
As a music aficionado, I can only think of a *very rare* individual that I would bother recommending BTBAM to. I mean seriously. It's like Naked City (look them up)...I *LOVE* Naked City's stuff. But I would never play it in a bar, or extremely rarely ever try to turn my friends on to it. It's just not the type of music that most people are going to enjoy unless they are (for lack of a better term) a "trained musical listener"...
i wanna make it clear that i didn't expect people to love it etc. but i did not expect to be vocally harassed over it. it's not like we put on cannibal corpse or something nuts
i wanna make it clear that i didn't expect people to love it etc. but i did not expect to be vocally harassed over it. it's not like we put on cannibal corpse or something nuts
I *PROMISE* you....to the untrained ear, there is absolutely no difference between CC and BTBAM. It sounds crazy when you feel like it's obvious...but the untrained ear only hears fast loud guitars and cookie monster. Nothing else even registers.
oh i totally get it all. people aren't gonna love metal. but we get to listen to what we want, same as the country stuff these dudes were pumping into the machine. the only difference is I or anyone who understands opinions wouldn't scream across the bar "who put this FUCKING SHIT on" when a song not to my genre of liking is playing
for some reason you can get away with that with metal
I'm actually not surprised. I am loving BTBAM more and more every day....turning into an addict. But even I'll admit that it's not really decent for what I would call "public consumption".I think Naked City and BTBAM are on kinda different levels. :lol Lots of people love death metal, but crazy grind-jazz is pretty out there.
As a music aficionado, I can only think of a *very rare* individual that I would bother recommending BTBAM to. I mean seriously. It's like Naked City (look them up)...I *LOVE* Naked City's stuff. But I would never play it in a bar, or extremely rarely ever try to turn my friends on to it. It's just not the type of music that most people are going to enjoy unless they are (for lack of a better term) a "trained musical listener"...
I'm actually not surprised. I am loving BTBAM more and more every day....turning into an addict. But even I'll admit that it's not really decent for what I would call "public consumption".I think Naked City and BTBAM are on kinda different levels. :lol Lots of people love death metal, but crazy grind-jazz is pretty out there.
As a music aficionado, I can only think of a *very rare* individual that I would bother recommending BTBAM to. I mean seriously. It's like Naked City (look them up)...I *LOVE* Naked City's stuff. But I would never play it in a bar, or extremely rarely ever try to turn my friends on to it. It's just not the type of music that most people are going to enjoy unless they are (for lack of a better term) a "trained musical listener"...
[been singing all day] CARVE ONE'S SKIN OUT OF THEEEEEIR OWN SOOOIIL....SENDS CHIIILS THROUOUUUUTTT MY BOOOOOODDDDYYYY!!!! [need to go listen to it again]
:metal :metal :metal One of my favorite parts.
Never listened a album from them but a run consisting of Alaska, Colors, Misdirect, Parallax EP and Parallax II would be a good start, don't?
:lol So I should start with Colors and see where I go from there depending on whether or not I survive it?
so don't give up if your initial impression is eh.
Seem like a bit of a fad here-today-gone-today band, like Thrice or Frost, everyone jumps on and away we go....
we'll see I guess.
Seem like a bit of a fad here-today-gone-today band, like Thrice or Frost, everyone jumps on and away we go....
we'll see I guess.
I feel like this should be quoted four years later.
As for their 'structures' (or lack thereof), once random hoedown segues start getting inserted into 'songs,' that phantom idea of structure goes right out the window. :)
As for their 'structures' (or lack thereof), once random hoedown segues start getting inserted into 'songs,' that phantom idea of structure goes right out the window. :)
Yeah, that was definitely one of my '... wait, what?' moments. :lol
Nope. Just Parallax 2.
Band play Parallax 2 in entirety
still have a half hour worth of material afterwards
night totals for 100 minutes of BtBaM
"Rip off"
WUT.
100 minutes for 20 dollars is NOT a ripoff. It was worth every single penny. Best show I've ever been to.Nope. Just Parallax 2.
WHAAAT????? You're freakin kidding me!! I bought the tickets under the presumption that they were playing THE WHOLE THING!!
I'm actually feeling really ripped off right now, and I haven't even gone yet. :angry:
They never promoted all of Parallax. They said Future Sequence on the tour poster. You must have misread.Band play Parallax 2 in entirety
still have a half hour worth of material afterwards
night totals for 100 minutes of BtBaM
"Rip off"
WUT.
I would have sacrificed that half hour for the entire Parallax....but I suppose White Walls is pretty good consolation.
I'm not flippin or anything...they were just promoting "all of Parallax"...so I thought I was getting ALL of Parallax.
Band play Parallax 2 in entirety
still have a half hour worth of material afterwards
night totals for 100 minutes of BtBaM
"Rip off"
WUT.
calling it disappointing is so hilarious.
Somebody said they played a full 100 minutes, Parallax 2 is about an hour and a few minutes long.
And for $20 and you also get to see The Contortionist, The Faceless, and The Safety Fire and calling it disappointing is so hilarious.
That's some ridiculous cabfare there, man. Fuck that shit.Yeap, they factor in traffic along with the route and shark you up the ass with it :sadpanda:
Fossil Genera is just kicking my ass right now. Freaking LOVE this track.
What makes him even more of a jamminbro is he's a Seahawks fan :metalFossil Genera is just kicking my ass right now. Freaking LOVE this track.
jammindude is now my jamminbro. :tup
Just picked up TGM at FYE today (on sale for 11.99).
Fossil Genera is just kicking my ass right now. Freaking LOVE this track.
Thank you! I will get right on it first thing in the morning.
EDIT: Nevermind, I don't want to go to bed, I'll get on it now :coolio
Colors had me by the throat pretty much immediately, to be honest.
I liked planetary duality, and saw them on that tour cycle.
but I wasn't super fond of the vox on the new album.
fact: these are opinions.
The contortionist was kinda.... lame. I really like that style of music, but theirs was unoriginal and didn't hold my attention. I liked their album quite a bit (Exoplanet), but live they were not so good.Heh. Live they were awesome when I saw. Was just in a small bar, but it was great.
Well why would it stop!? (Being a master of piece)
I failed to get an interview with BTBAM at tomorrow's Seattle show. But....I did land my first interview for The Jammin Dude Show...and it will be with someone from The Safety Fire.
I dig what I heard from their new album OL...I'm gonna have to pick it up. "Interview" is probably going to be a strong word for what I have planned. I don't really want to ask the same boring questions. So I just figured the the spirit of my show was really more about being fun. Then I thought...remember what Craig Kilbourne used to do when he did The Daily Show? At the end of an interview, he would just ask a few light-hearted, "getting to know you", party style "lightning round" questions. (Like "what superhero did you want to be growing up?")
TO ME, that would be quicker, less intrusive, more fun...and maybe a bit insightful. (it also requires less work, and less thought process...which The J-Dude is ALL ABOUT)
I've got more reviews coming up, (my house flooded, so I had to skip a show this week) but I think the next one will be interviews with two opening bands and a review of the show.
Pre-show preparation...you get to see me cook.For a brief second, I thought there was a second 'c' in that word. :|
https://youtu.be/N1vuv4LdQdM
Pre-show preparation...you get to see me cook.For a brief second, I thought there was a second 'c' in that word. :|
https://youtu.be/N1vuv4LdQdM
I was just on btbam's tour bus interviewing dan Briggs for the jammin dude show. So freakin psyched! :metal
white shirts are not metal
everything must be metal
blacker than the blackest black
times infinity
white shirts are not metal
everything must be metal
blacker than the blackest black
times infinity
I'm actually on a big ANTI-black shirt campaign right now. I just looked in my closet one day and realized that all my concert shirts are black...and anytime something gets predictable or uniform, it sets my teeth on edge.
Now, whenever I go to a concert, I purposely seek out ANYTHING THAT ISN'T BLACK!
The new white BTBAM concert tee with the owl is currently my favorite concert tee. I think it may be the coolest looking concert tee I've ever seen. Seriously. It's freakin awesome.
...I really really don't like zipup hoodies, which makes me sad cause pullovers were all they sold, now its all tight looking zipups...
some entertainment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/progmetal/comments/1oq56i/official_rprogmetal_general_discussion_the_most/ccufu41
The Contortionist did really well but they seemed like the most "extreme" in the vocal department. I'm not completely anti-growling...but without some clean stuff to give it some dynamics, it just gets monotonous to me.
:|
The whole middle part of Fossil Genera pretty much sums up all of BTBAM's worst problems, imo.
It's different for me with a band like DT, who has been doing almost the same thing on many albums over these last 10 years, but in the case with DT I can't stand it at all.
Couldn't agree more. In Colors the oddball sections felt tied in to the songs somehow. On TGM, especially on Fossil Genera, it felt really slapdash and forced.I don't really get these critics about Fossil Genera, at least compared to other songs. Fossil genera has a standard ABA'+coda structure, with a long B section that is linear and cohesive in style, if not in material (although there is some recurring elements). It's less random than a lot of stuff on Colors. I guess the keyword here is "felt".
About "Swim to the Moon", I started to "get it " when I saw the tabs/score for it. It's much more cohesive than people make it to be, but as it's really dense and doesn't rely on usual rock/prog type of structures, it's hard to grasp. Its structure is closer to stuff you might find in classical music. There isn't much songs in rock, prog or metal that get as meandrous and dense as this song.
One thing that I've started to catch on with BTBAM's music (even without looking at tabs) is that their "structure" seems to be more rhythmic related. i.e....they don't have repeating themes of harmony....they have rhythmic repeating themes instead. That's where the structure lies...and it's not what most bands do...and that's why I like it.
One thing that I've started to catch on with BTBAM's music (even without looking at tabs) is that their "structure" seems to be more rhythmic related. i.e....they don't have repeating themes of harmony....they have rhythmic repeating themes instead. That's where the structure lies...and it's not what most bands do...and that's why I like it.
Care to give an example or two?
What is a "3 chorus structure" ? A chorus is merely the name of a part in certain type of structures - the standard song or the rondo in classical music - and implies some specific relations to other parts. Here, the chorus doesn't really have the fonction of a chorus, although you might defend the idea that the song has a big intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus/coda structure, but that doesn't say much about how the song works from a formal point of view.
Plus I don't think we hear the song like that.
deceptively simple
I seriously don't know what my favorite BTBAM song is. So many amazing ones to choose from.
:tupI seriously don't know what my favorite BTBAM song is. So many amazing ones to choose from.
White Walls is the only true answer.
All that matters is that you all are aware that the riff in Telos is their best riff ever.
May be the best riff ever.
Which riff in Telos ?
Mirrors/Obfuscation for me.
It's one song, shut up.
As for their quirky sections, I generally think they're well integrated and I generally like them, except for that damn hoedown part of Ants of the Sky. I fucking hate that thing. Ugh.
Ants of the Sky would be mine.
As for their quirky sections, I generally think they're well integrated and I generally like them, except for that damn hoedown part of Ants of the Sky. I fucking hate that thing. Ugh.
Get out. Now. :rollin
The hoedown makes what comes after work perfectly, and that is my single favorite section of a song by any band, ever. Respect the hoedown, for what it sets up. :p
Which riff in Telos ?
i hate that this tour isn't coming to philly considering the lineup they just toured with completely blew imo >:(I'm more excited for this lineup, but dude how do The Faceless, The Contortionist and The Safety Fire suck?!
it was a fun show and i loved btbam, but intronaut and deaf heaven are just so much better than what we just had..
they just didn't do anything for me honestly. the safety fire were the worst band there imo, and it slowly improved by each band. also on a tour like this id just rather see bands that i know and like than bands I've never heard ofi hate that this tour isn't coming to philly considering the lineup they just toured with completely blew imo >:(I'm more excited for this lineup, but dude how do The Faceless, The Contortionist and The Safety Fire suck?!
it was a fun show and i loved btbam, but intronaut and deaf heaven are just so much better than what we just had..
I mean if they didn't do anything for you that's fine, but this part that I've left quoted baffles me. I've found a lot of bands that I now love thanks to them being on a tour for the headliner who I already love. Seeing bands I haven't heard or seen before is always kind of exciting if you ask me, of course it's cool to see other bands that I already know as well.also on a tour like this id just rather see bands that i know and like than bands I've never heard ofi hate that this tour isn't coming to philly considering the lineup they just toured with completely blew imo >:(I'm more excited for this lineup, but dude how do The Faceless, The Contortionist and The Safety Fire suck?!
it was a fun show and i loved btbam, but intronaut and deaf heaven are just so much better than what we just had..
usually this isn't the case for me because i do like discovering new bands, but with btbam its hard to find the right balance for me. i like btbam for modern prog metal, but these openers are the types of bands i don't like in modern prog, whereas a group like intronaut i love. there was just a very hardcore-centric crowd that i didn't like, and i don't think you'd get that at this lineup.I mean if they didn't do anything for you that's fine, but this part that I've left quoted baffles me. I've found a lot of bands that I now love thanks to them being on a tour for the headliner who I already love. Seeing bands I haven't heard or seen before is always kind of exciting if you ask me, of course it's cool to see other bands that I already know as well.also on a tour like this id just rather see bands that i know and like than bands I've never heard ofi hate that this tour isn't coming to philly considering the lineup they just toured with completely blew imo >:(I'm more excited for this lineup, but dude how do The Faceless, The Contortionist and The Safety Fire suck?!
it was a fun show and i loved btbam, but intronaut and deaf heaven are just so much better than what we just had..
I know..it's generalizing....but in three months when there's another new "fad" band that we're all talking about...and yes..from time to time I'm guilty of jumping on........and NOBODY is talking about THIS band anymore...expect an ITYS.
Rank the rankings!
Shadow Ninja's ranking
Dark Castle's ranking
Zantera's ranking
PROGdrummer's ranking
Before we fucking rank the albums for the millionth time:I agree. It really depends on what you prefer.
I feel like Parallax 2: Future Sequence is the best, and that Colors isn't as good as that or The Great Misdirect, but I can see those who think otherwise's reasoning.
Check the self-titled, bro. It's actually really good.I'm not a fan of TSC and the self-titled is supposedly more of that same sound so I wasn't in any big hurry to listen to it. Maybe eventually I'll get it, but I've got enough of a backlog right now.
that was. confusing.