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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: Destiny Of Chaos on June 16, 2018, 12:17:33 AM
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Imagine this scenario:
The band unveils the name of their upcoming album.
The name includes a word/phrase such as Finale, Epilogue, End, Final Chapter, Curtain Call etc.
How would you feel?
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Well, it's got to happen at some point, and it's probably going to happen sooner rather than later.
(The band ending, not having an album title with those words in it.)
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How would I feel? Well, like killing myself! DT have been with me for 25 years now.
Kidding aside, I'd be very sad but as said in the post above mine, it's bound to happen some day.
B.Lee
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I thought James mentioned that they're gonna keep doing this for at least ten years - and I think that was not that long ago.
And yes, I'd be devastated.
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I wouldn't mind.
Maiden released an album called The Final frontier, and then carried out for ten more years.
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Maiden released an album called The Final frontier, and then carried out for ten more years.
Came in to post this.
I won't be worried by a title unless DT confirm it's the last.
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Assuming they are still spying us, I think they will actually put in the album title one of those words just to troll us.. ;D ;D ;D
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Calling it now, last album title, "Dance of Eternity".
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Calling it now, last album title, "Dance of Eternity".
Did you just confirm Metropolis Pt. 3? :omg:
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Calling it now, last album title, "Dance of Eternity".
Did you just confirm Metropolis Pt. 3? :omg:
Or maybe wishful thinking because "there must be a 3rd and last dance and this one will last forever"!
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Calling it now, last album title, "Dance of Eternity".
Did you just confirm Metropolis Pt. 3? :omg:
Or maybe wishful thinking because "there must be a 3rd and last dance and this one will last forever"!
Maybe 6DOIT is the dance of eternity
because it's very long
sorry
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Calling it now, last album title, "Dance of Eternity".
Did you just confirm Metropolis Pt. 3? :omg:
Or maybe wishful thinking because "there must be a 3rd and last dance and this one will last forever"!
Bull of Heaven collab confirmed
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Dance of Eternity would make a kickass album title.
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I'm not worried. I would bet DT will be around for another 10-15 years.. :metal
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It would actually be a decent marketing ploy if they did that.
But I wouldn't be worried. It's customary these days for bands to go through around 7 'retirements' before finally pulling down the curtain, so even if they called the album 'Dream Theater Is Now Dead' I wouldn't take it seriously. There'd be a 'Part 2: Scenes From A Memorial' a couple of years later.
Also, I get no impression the band has any intention of calling it a day. I think (hope) that if we and they are lucky we might get anything up to 4 or 5 more albums out of them yet.
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Indeed, they just signed a record deal with Inside Out for more than just one album. We’ll still have DT for plenty of time :metal
I expect a couple lineup changes before they retire, though.
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Indeed, they just signed a record deal with Inside Out for more than just one album. We’ll still have DT for plenty of time :metal
I expect a couple lineup changes before they retire, though.
How many albums/options did they say they signed for? Pretty curious
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Indeed, they just signed a record deal with Inside Out for more than just one album. We’ll still have DT for plenty of time :metal
I expect a couple lineup changes before they retire, though.
How many albums/options did they say they signed for? Pretty curious
No idea, but they said “long term deal” or something like that. I guess it’s for 2-3 albums at least.
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It would've been great if they named their last album "The End", using word "the" for the first (and the last) time ever in an album title. Unfortunately, they made "The Astonishing".
Since DT's known to spy these forums, I still have a conspiracy theory that they used "The" in the last album title just because of the thread discussing why they had no "the" in album titles :'D
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I should clarify by saying whatever they'll release, I'll buy it. I'll just be hesitant on live shows if it's a super heavy album because that will give me an idea of what their live show will probably be like. Any DT is welcome to my ears.
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Of course I don't have "proof" - and I'll completely admit that I was exaggerating a bit and trying to be funny with the "no one except you" part. :P In general however, I doubt that's what most want and even if they did, it's not what the band wants. I have 0 issues with James' vocals on any DT album, including SC which is one of my least favorites. What I do have a problem with are MP's vocals on those albums, but luckily for me I suppose that won't be an issue. I would prefer them not to write melodies like some of the verses on The Dark Eternal Night, but even then; I enjoyed that song a lot on the last tour (and like it better the way they did it, without MP's voice). So on that angle I probably sort of agree, but otherwise no. I'm looking forward to whatever they feel passionate about delivering. If it's something like The Astonishing, one of my favorite DT albums, then I'm all for it; they *were* passionate about it and to me it shows. Now JP seems really excited about doing something heavy, and if that's what he's excited about, that's what I want to hear and I want it with James' voice. I couldn't disagree more about younger bands doing prog metal better either. There are younger bands I like an awful lot, but still wouldn't take them over DT.
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I want an album just for me, the way I want it, because only my opinions matter. :biggrin: :lol
Nah, I'm excited regardless. I am honestly hoping for a lot of shorter tunes though, a DT album that is proggy but to the point with 3-4 minute songs would be so cool. Like TA, but without the theme and story etc.
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What I do have a problem with are MP's vocals on those albums, but luckily for me I suppose that won't be an issue.
Probably not, no.
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Nah, I'm excited regardless. I am honestly hoping for a lot of shorter tunes though, a DT album that is proggy but to the point with 3-4 minute songs would be so cool. Like TA, but without the theme and story etc.
Considering DT12 and, even more, TA have mostly shorter songs (with the exception of IT), I actually expect them to have longer songs this time.
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Metropolis part 3 : It's just a flesh wound !
Dance of eternity or something alike would be cool, since they look joyful and that "a cool turn of events" would be cheesy.
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Perhaps not the thread for this kind of comment, but re: the above exchange between Lethean and Katteolox - I'd absolutely love an album of slower, atmospheric numbers in the vein of Beneath The Surface, and I'm hoping that as they get older, this is the side of the band they'll explore more. An album of tracks like Speak To Me, Eve, Disappear, Lifting Shadows Off A Dream, Anna Lee, Misunderstood, The Answer Lies Within and Octavarium would be ideal for me.
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Not sure if you've heard it, but you should check out The Astonishing. ;D
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Heard it and love it, but there's nothing on it that approaches the atmospheric 'grandeur' and majesty of, say, Misunderstood or Octavarium. IMO, natch.
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Yeah, j/k.
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Perhaps not the thread for this kind of comment, but re: the above exchange between Lethean and Katteolox - I'd absolutely love an album of slower, atmospheric numbers in the vein of Beneath The Surface, and I'm hoping that as they get older, this is the side of the band they'll explore more. An album of tracks like Speak To Me, Eve, Disappear, Lifting Shadows Off A Dream, Anna Lee, Misunderstood, The Answer Lies Within and Octavarium would be ideal for me.
I wouldn't be opposed to something like that either - especially with an Octavarium or Misunderstood in there to bring it up just a little bit. I also wouldn't mind an acoustic album from them one of these days; it wouldn't even have to be new material (though it could be), but just reworked versions of existing songs, ala Threshold's Wireless album. I think DT would do a great job with that sort of thing, and I believe James mentioned something like that as a possibility (not sure if solo or with DT) after 10 more years of regular DT activities. Maybe a release (or two) down the road, since they definitely seem into the heavy stuff at the moment. Though if they do the acoustic thing it might be more palatable to a portion of the fanbase if they presented it as a bonus type release rather than "the next Dream Theater album."
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Where do I have to sing and how many squirrels do I have to sacrifice to the Dark Master to have a bonus disc for the special edition of DT14 which is exactly that? (acoustic works, they could be, say, a mix of 6-7 songs: an original tune or two, a couple of DT songs rearranged and a cover)
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Imagine this scenario:
The band unveils the name of their upcoming album.
The name includes a word/phrase such as Finale, Epilogue, End, Final Chapter, Curtain Call etc.
How would you feel?
Are you saying that the upcoming album is currently behind the veil? :neverusethis:
I'm not sure how I'd feel. All I know at this point is, I probably wouldn't feel much worse than I did when they announced TA and then later became completely underwhelmed by what I heard. Then again, who knows? We'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
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Imagine this scenario:
The band unveils the name of their upcoming album.
The name includes a word/phrase such as Finale, Epilogue, End, Final Chapter, Curtain Call etc.
How would you feel?
Are you saying that the upcoming album is currently behind the veil? :neverusethis:
I'm not sure how I'd feel. All I know at this point is, I probably wouldn't feel much worse than I did when they announced TA and then later became completely underwhelmed by what I heard. Then again, who knows? We'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
Or imagine they call it "The Astonishing, Part II : the final blow to Dublagent66". :biggrin:
B.Lee
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Yeah right, :lol I'll be totally devastated because there's nothing better to listen to.
They will call DT14: "Dream Theater", as a way of differentiating themselves from The Astonishing :loser:
In press articles JP and JR will say things, such as "This album is like a new beginning for us, we are breaking new ground and are re-establishing who we are as a band, we've really never done nothing like this before"
Then the album comes out, and it will sound like an even more dumber version of the last.
Wow! An even more disappointed fan than me. Amazing! :lol :clap:
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Yeah right, :lol I'll be totally devastated because there's nothing better to listen to.
They will call DT14: "Dream Theater", as a way of differentiating themselves from The Astonishing :loser:
In press articles JP and JR will say things, such as "This album is like a new beginning for us, we are breaking new ground and are re-establishing who we are as a band, we've really never done nothing like this before"
Then the album comes out, and it will sound like an even more dumber version of the last.
Wow! An even more disappointed fan than me. Astonishing! :lol :clap:
Didn't believe it was possible! :biggrin: (mycorrection)
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I don't care what the album title will be. Here are some of my thoughts on what the title could be.
"Egg Nog"
"Advanced Time Parameters"
"Wrote This in a Cabin"
"Cabin Fever for Five"
"Gnarly"
"No Need for a Napkin"
"Ladders to Fire"
"Pushpin"
"Bound by Time & Space"
"The 14"
"Wankery Stankery"
"Fools Don't Understand"
"Unchartered"
"Olive Branch"
"The Power of the Riff"
"Spoken For"
"Zenith"
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Not sure how or why this thread turned into a discussion bashing a particular band member and calling for his firing, but the offending posts have been deleted and warnings have been issued. There was some legitimate, good discussion in some of those posts that is unfortunately lost as a result.
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Not sure how or why this thread turned into a discussion bashing a particular band member and calling for his firing, but the offending posts have been deleted and warnings have been issued. There was some legitimate, good discussion in some of those posts that is unfortunately lost as a result.
I don't recall ever saying anything worthy of a warning and yet I've received one without any quote of what I said, so I'm legitimately confused what I even did wrong. How am I supposed to avoid that behavior if I don't even know wtf I said that was so offensive? That is silly. There was indeed good discussion, and it is, unfortunately, lost. Now there's just confusion. I never called for anybody's firing.
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I would feel a little down, but wouldn't mind either.
When they go down that road, it should be named...
"Could This Be End?"
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I expect a couple lineup changes before they retire, though.
Wait, really? A couple?
I find it pretty hard to believe that the core 3 guys could ever continue without the others. Maybe if James couldn't do it anymore, they could bring somebody in, but man, it'd be hard to imagine them going through another drummer change.
And again, I don't see DT ever moving on if either JP, JMx, or Jordan left.
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Changing the drummer would be "easy" - they did it 8 years ago, it went well, they'd bring in someone else without even the issue of "damn, the drummer was a founding member".
This means no disrespect to Mangini of course, it's just a "cold" analysis of the situation. In DT the most replaceable member is the one who's last arrived.
James not doing it anymore for whatever reason would be a way more difficult blow to the band.
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Changing the drummer would be "easy" - they did it 8 years ago, it went well, they'd brought it someone else without even the issue of "damn, the drummer was a founding member".
This means no disrespect to Mangini of course, it's just a "cold" analysis of the situation. In DT the most replaceable member is the one who's last arrived.
James not doing it anymore for whatever reason would be a way more difficult blow to the band.
That's what I think too.
B.Lee
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"James not doing it anymore for whatever reason" would mean the end of DT's wonderfully unique sound.
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"James not doing it anymore for whatever reason" would mean the end of DT's wonderfully unique sound.
Yup. For all of the flack he gets, he is the great separator.
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I hope it's called;
Not The Astonishing
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I expect a couple lineup changes before they retire, though.
Wait, really? A couple?
I find it pretty hard to believe that the core 3 guys could ever continue without the others. Maybe if James couldn't do it anymore, they could bring somebody in, but man, it'd be hard to imagine them going through another drummer change.
And again, I don't see DT ever moving on if either JP, JMx, or Jordan left.
Yes, my two picks are James (this needs no explanation really) and Jordan (eventually leaving when he gets tired of touring). Not that I want this to happen, at least with Jordan, but I see it as highly possible. About James... he’s been an amazing vocalist for decades, but I think it would be better for DT to try another singer in the not so distant future. But, again, this is just my opinion.
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That would be pretty bad.