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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: a51502112 on January 22, 2018, 11:46:21 AM
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Calling it a day. Hope they at least get Dave Lombardo for this last tour.
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Well, I always take these "last" tours with a grain of salt...
Maybe this could be an idea for a thread, "Bands that announced a final tour and actually meant it" :D
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I can see it being a reality, but sure, lots of bands do final tours and then come back. Or sometimes do a final tour but still do one off shows.
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Over the past few years, Tom has been very open about not wanting to tour anymore. Maybe they'd do one off shows at some festivals, but I really see this as Slayer's last big trek around the world. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the official tour announcement says as far as the finality of things. So far it's just a short video indicating their intent and a confirmation of the bands.
Either way, it sucks to see your favorite bands start to wind things down and retire. I'm glad I saw the original lineup on the American Carnage tour in 2010 before Dave was kicked out and Jeff died. That was a great way to say goodbye, especially because Seasons was the first Slayer record that I had ever heard and owned. To see it played live was really cool.
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Yeah, I'll be seeing this tour. They're touring with LoG, Testament and Anthrax.
Saw Slayer in Toronto for the Clash of the Titans tour in 1991. It was awesome.
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Cue "The Entrance of the Gladiators". :)
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That's a big metal icon stepping down, sad to see but the last album was a pretty good one to go out on if they are stopping everything altogether.
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Saw Slayer (and Motorhead) at Mayhem 4 or 5 years ago. I wasn't a huge fan of either but was happy not to have to add them both to the list of bands I wished I'd seen.
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They were the first band I ever saw (with Gojira and Mastodon, killer show) and if they come again, I'll go for sure even though I don't listen to them that much. They had a hell of a career :metal
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That is one hell of a lineup too, with Lamb of God, Anthrax, Behemoth and Testament. I'd definitely be down for this show if they played Atlanta, perhaps at the Infinity Arena.
It's a shame that this is their final tour, but they're a band that has never disappointed live, and I'd be interested in seeing what songs they bring out. Let's hope they don't just do a "hits" tour and dig deep into their catalog,.
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I knew it waa coming. Because Tom has his Spinal Injury, and what not.
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Count me in for this show if theyīre here in Toronto. Itīs about time they retire, and I hope itīs true, unlike Priest, Kiss, Sabbath, Scorpions etc. I saw them sandwiched between Ghost and Maiden in 2013, and they seemed to be going through the motions already. Tom is now a family man and wants to spend more time at home with his family - he said he didnīt have a chance to watch his sons grow, and wants to be closer to them now. Fair enough!!
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Cue "The Entrance of the Gladiators". :)
I like that. Funny thing is, all bands from Clash of... are still here and doing pretty good. Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax and Alice in Chains.
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Nice, Saturday June 2nd in my backyard, PNC Bank Arts Center in NJ. I'm not crazy into any of these bands, but sounds like a show I should attend and being so close to home on a Saturday, I will be there.
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If Anthrax were the band before Slayer I'd probably check it out. Seeing Anthrax and then waiting through LoG doesn't sound particularly appealing, though.
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I saw Lamb of God open for Gwar about 17 years ago, wasn't a fan then nor now, but all my friends love them.
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Damn. Doesn't look like they're playing Atlanta, unless there they haven't announced all of the N America dates.
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Damn. Doesn't look like they're playing Atlanta, unless there they haven't announced all of the N America dates.
YO, what part of town are you in? I'm in Towne Lake (Woodstock). Not many Atlantans here on DTF.
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Damn. Doesn't look like they're playing Atlanta, unless there they haven't announced all of the N America dates.
YO, what part of town are you in? I'm in Towne Lake (Woodstock). Not many Atlantans here on DTF.
I used to live in Lawrenceville, and worked in Duluth. I was about three miles from the courthouse in front of which Larry Flynt was shot and paralyzed.
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Yay, Toronto!!!!
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Damn. Doesn't look like they're playing Atlanta, unless there they haven't announced all of the N America dates.
YO, what part of town are you in? I'm in Towne Lake (Woodstock). Not many Atlantans here on DTF.
I used to live in Lawrenceville, and worked in Duluth. I was about three miles from the courthouse in front of which Larry Flynt was shot and paralyzed.
Not exactly Slayer (or metal/rock in general) territory here. Hip Hop and country rule. G3 plays 4 or 5 shows in FL and we get nothing.
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Sadly skipping this tour, and likely all other badass tours for the next few years due to budget constraints. $80 for a seat in the amphitheater, on a Friday. As much as I love every band on the bill, it's just not in the cards for me right now. :|
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While this doesn't really come as a surprise, since the band is quite old already and has had some difficult line-up changes over the last couple years, it's still pretty weird to see such an iconic metal band step down. There's lots of 'headliner'-type bands that are probably nearing the end in a similar fashion. It will surely be an interesting thing to see develop. I mean, what happens when the Metallica's, Megadeth's, Slayer's & Iron Maiden's all stop existing? Who will fill in?
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Good question, I wonder if fans will flock to other metal bands or if the genre just dies a little? There's definitely big metal bands out there, but are those bands going to be able to grow as big as the bands that are retiring? I feel like we really don't have a whole lot of metal bands that are becoming national hits anymore.
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While this doesn't really come as a surprise, since the band is quite old already and has had some difficult line-up changes over the last couple years, it's still pretty weird to see such an iconic metal band step down. There's lots of 'headliner'-type bands that are probably nearing the end in a similar fashion. It will surely be an interesting thing to see develop. I mean, what happens when the Metallica's, Megadeth's, Slayer's & Iron Maiden's all stop existing? Who will fill in?
To a large degree, no one. To me, those bands represent the last truly huge metal acts. Personally, I think there's a ton of great modern metal bands, but none have had the ability to break through like a Maiden or Metallica. I think most of that has to do with the current state of the industry, but I think some of it might have to do with the artists themselves as well.
Good question, I wonder if fans will flock to other metal bands or if the genre just dies a little? There's definitely big metal bands out there, but are those bands going to be able to grow as big as the bands that are retiring? I feel like we really don't have a whole lot of metal bands that are becoming national hits anymore.
I don't know if those fans will flock to other metal bands. Bands like Maiden and Metallica brought in a lot of casuals along with the die-hards. I don't see those casuals transitioning over to some new metal band, in general.
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I think we should look at second billed bands in big festivals, and top bill bands at smaller festivals to get an idea, merely on cold numbers, of who could become the next "biggest act". In terms of worldwide exposure and recognition, I don't know however if there'll be another Maiden or Metallica.
In Italy there'll be a festival in June, and Ozzy is headlining, and Avenged Sevenfold are second, before Judas Priest. Yeah, I died a little in typing that, Priest have to play before Avenged Sevenfold. Maybe they'll be the next big thing, but they're already very divisive now, I don't see them conquering the orphans of the biggest acts once they'll all be retired.
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Am I the only one saying "Hold up, Henrietta. Maiden and Metallica, sure, but Megadeth and Slayer are not on that level." They may headline, but headlining smaller arenas - with a significant undercard - is not the same thing as headlining a stadium with no record and one opening act.
We're in the middle of it, but in five, ten years time we'll have our answer.
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Yea, there is a separation but this is essentially that next level below those huge bands. If the top and the next level retire, who keeps metal going?
I saw that as well with Avenged, they may be the next biggest band, but they I don't know if they can reach the heights of those top bands. Seems they are already so far into their career to boom to a stadium act. You never know, but I feel it's going to have to come from a band that is new or doesn't yet exist. Which makes me wonder if one will ever even come along that will be the next Metallica
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Am I the only one saying "Hold up, Henrietta. Maiden and Metallica, sure, but Megadeth and Slayer are not on that level." They may headline, but headlining smaller arenas - with a significant undercard - is not the same thing as headlining a stadium with no record and one opening act.
Oh I totally agree. Metallica just did a successful stadium tour run in the states. What other metal act could do that in the states now a days? It's definitely Metallica and Maiden with a huge gap down to bands like Slayer and Megadeth.
Yea, there is a separation but this is essentially that next level below those huge bands. If the top and the next level retire, who keeps metal going?
I saw that as well with Avenged, they may be the next biggest band, but they I don't know if they can reach the heights of those top bands. Seems they are already so far into their career to boom to a stadium act. You never know, but I feel it's going to have to come from a band that is new or doesn't yet exist. Which makes me wonder if one will ever even come along that will be the next Metallica
I don't see Avenged getting any bigger than they already have been. From where I sit, they are a band that has already hit their prime and are probably on the other side of it already.
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Actually, I'd say Metallica is the only truly world-wide Metal phenomenon these days. Yes, Maiden has been successful in headlining major festivals every summer, but they are much bigger in Europe than in N. America, where they can headline arenas and amphitheaters, but not stadiums.
I'd put them like this:
Metallica: Stadiums
Maiden/Ozzy: Arenas & Amphitheaters
Slayer/Megadeth/Judas Priest: Smaller arenas and package tours
Many of the other classic metal bands will headline theaters and clubs (Testament, Anthrax, etc).
You can throw in a lot of the current popular metal bands in the category of arenas/amphitheaters, often with package tours. Bands like these include Disturbed, 5 Finger Death Punch, Korn, Avenged Sevenfold, etc.
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Damn. Doesn't look like they're playing Atlanta, unless there they haven't announced all of the N America dates.
YO, what part of town are you in? I'm in Towne Lake (Woodstock). Not many Atlantans here on DTF.
I live in Duluth. I caught Slayer a couple of years ago at the Rockstar ENergy Mayhem tour, co-headlining with King Diamond. Ticket sales were fairly poor as they didn't even open the main parking lot at the Lakewood Amitheater. Still, it was one hell of a show.
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Metallica was able to do Stadiums in the US cause they packaged with Avenged Sevenfold and Volbeat. I'm not trying to diminish them, they are clearly the best ticket seller in this catagory (well actually Guns N Roses are according to billboard).
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Actually, I'd say Metallica is the only truly world-wide Metal phenomenon these days. Yes, Maiden has been successful in headlining major festivals every summer, but they are much bigger in Europe than in N. America, where they can headline arenas and amphitheaters, but not stadiums.
I'd say Maiden is a world wide metal phenomenon too. But they tour a lot more often.
Metallica's limited touring schedule really creates a supply/demand issue. It had been 8 1/2 years between shows here. And the 3rd time in 15 years. You figure it will probably be another 5 or 6 years easy before they come back. That's a big reason why these crowd sizes are up.
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Avenged Sevenfold is most likely past their prime indeed, but judging from local concerts here it seems like they are playing bigger crowds than a lot of other bands mentioned here in their current state.
These are on a much lower scale, but I just thought it was funny that a band that has gained a lot of popularity the last few years (Gojira) has already been around since before the 2000's, even if they would become one of the bigger acts in metal after the current huge ones died out, they wouldn't be around for that long anymore.
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Actually, I'd say Metallica is the only truly world-wide Metal phenomenon these days. Yes, Maiden has been successful in headlining major festivals every summer, but they are much bigger in Europe than in N. America, where they can headline arenas and amphitheaters, but not stadiums.
I'd put them like this:
Metallica: Stadiums
Maiden/Ozzy: Arenas & Amphitheaters
Slayer/Megadeth/Judas Priest: Smaller arenas and package tours
Many of the other classic metal bands will headline theaters and clubs (Testament, Anthrax, etc).
You can throw in a lot of the current popular metal bands in the category of arenas/amphitheaters, often with package tours. Bands like these include Disturbed, 5 Finger Death Punch, Korn, Avenged Sevenfold, etc.
I fully cop to this potentially being a regional issue, but in my experience:
Metallica
Maiden
Ozzy/Priest
Slayer/Anthrax/Megadeth/A7X
Disturbed (now)/Five Finger.../Korn
In that order. I wouldn't fist fight anyone if they put Korn in the next line up.
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Metallica was able to do Stadiums in the US cause they packaged with Avenged Sevenfold and Volbeat. I'm not trying to diminish them, they are clearly the best ticket seller in this catagory (well actually Guns N Roses are according to billboard).
Eh, I think you are overvaluing what the openers brought to the table for that tour, respectfully.
Also - GnR isn't metal, so I wasn't even taking them into consideration for this conversation, I was thinking strictly metal bands. They also have the reunion tour factor which is huge for ticket sales.
Avenged Sevenfold is most likely past their prime indeed, but judging from local concerts here it seems like they are playing bigger crowds than a lot of other bands mentioned here in their current state.
These are on a much lower scale, but I just thought it was funny that a band that has gained a lot of popularity the last few years (Gojira) has already been around since before the 2000's, even if they would become one of the bigger acts in metal after the current huge ones died out, they wouldn't be around for that long anymore.
Good call on Gojira - they are one of the "up and coming" metal bands - two things that scare me about that. (1) Like you pointed out, they have been around for a while already, so they really aren't some new thing and (2) if they came to my city in the states (Pittsburgh) they'd probably be playing in a venue (on a package tour with another band to draw) that seats like 2,000 people. If that's the next wave of metal after a band like Metallica hangs it up, the popularity gap is astounding.
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Metallica was able to do Stadiums in the US cause they packaged with Avenged Sevenfold and Volbeat. I'm not trying to diminish them, they are clearly the best ticket seller in this catagory (well actually Guns N Roses are according to billboard).
Eh, I think you are overvaluing what the openers brought to the table for that tour, respectfully.
Also - GnR isn't metal, so I wasn't even taking them into consideration for this conversation, I was thinking strictly metal bands. They also have the reunion tour factor which is huge for ticket sales.
Well, Metallica didn't sell out their arena show on the tour. But granted it was physically and timely close to the NJ show. But I actually think they are a bigger draw than an arena and not big enough for stadiums alone at this point. In the US at least. In Europe they aren't playing as big of venues as they did in the US. But as TAC said, Metallica also doesn't tour so much anymore so there's a draw for that reason as well. Lars even mentioned something about not playing NJ in so many years.
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Well, Metallica didn't sell out their arena show on the tour. But granted it was physically and timely close to the NJ show. But I actually think they are a bigger draw than an arena and not big enough for stadiums alone at this point. In the US at least. In Europe they aren't playing as big of venues as they did in the US. But as TAC said, Metallica also doesn't tour so much anymore so there's a draw for that reason as well. Lars even mentioned something about not playing NJ in so many years.
I thought they did sell out that NJ arena show?
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It was in long island new york, about 40 miles from metlife, I was able to look up tickets the day of, maybe it did sell out in the end, it was just expensive corner tickets left which I understand why people wouldnt buy those. The Metlife NJ show didn't sell out either (stadium). I think we are actually pretty much agreeing although my wording makes it look like Metallica isn't the big draw they are.
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Yay, Toronto!!!!
Just got my tix. In order to get the advance sale, I had to pay a $35 Slayer Fan Club fee. :censored
Selling out fast for Molson Amphitheater.
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Yay, Toronto!!!!
Just got my tix. In order to get the advance sale, I had to pay a $35 Slayer Fan Club fee. :censored
Selling out fast for Molson Amphitheater.
I looked at that but passed, not worth joining a fan club for a band that is ending their career. But also, don't judge the sale of the venue by the presale. Most tickets are not likely even available to be bought yet. I expect locally for me, to get a ticket no problem as I don't think this show sells out.
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Actually, I'd say Metallica is the only truly world-wide Metal phenomenon these days. Yes, Maiden has been successful in headlining major festivals every summer, but they are much bigger in Europe than in N. America, where they can headline arenas and amphitheaters, but not stadiums.
I'd put them like this:
Metallica: Stadiums
Maiden/Ozzy: Arenas & Amphitheaters
Slayer/Megadeth/Judas Priest: Smaller arenas and package tours
Many of the other classic metal bands will headline theaters and clubs (Testament, Anthrax, etc).
You can throw in a lot of the current popular metal bands in the category of arenas/amphitheaters, often with package tours. Bands like these include Disturbed, 5 Finger Death Punch, Korn, Avenged Sevenfold, etc.
I think this is spot on, and it's exactly how things play out down here. In fact, all of these bands have or will play in their respective tier within a year.
Metallica was able to do Stadiums in the US cause they packaged with Avenged Sevenfold and Volbeat. I'm not trying to diminish them, they are clearly the best ticket seller in this catagory (well actually Guns N Roses are according to billboard).
I don't think this is entirely correct. I think a big part of the draw for Metallica this time around was that it was a stadium tour, with the massive production that entails. Also, the album was pretty popular. Had they just played their normal in the round show at AAC I doubt they'd have sold it out. AV7 most likely sold them some tickets, but not enough to be the difference between a stadium and arena show.
Gojira is a good call (and opened for Met a couple of times), Rammstein is also worth mentioning when discussing this hierarchy. They sell better than Maiden here in the states, and while certainly an old, established band, they're still years behind Metallica, Maiden and Ozzy. I think Tool will also continue to tour well beyond those guys, though it'll probably still be the same 18 or so songs.
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Are they coming to CT? I didn't see it :'(
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Are they coming to CT? I didn't see it :'(
I thought I saw a show at Mohegan Sun. My guess is in the arena in the limited seating configuration.
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Love Slayer and have never seen them. The only way I would have even entertained the idea of going to the farewell show is if Dave was there. I've never been a big fan of Paul. He's always come across as a bit sloppy to me. Plus, Dave is one of my favorites. I'm just in love with his style and playing.
The guys put out 2 really great albums to close out their career so, for me, they are going out on top. World Painted Blood and Repentless are records that I still listen to regularly.
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The only way I would have even entertained the idea of going to the farewell show is if Dave was there.
Agreed. Too bad they can't work out the differences to make it happen.
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Are they coming to CT? I didn't see it :'(
I thought I saw a show at Mohegan Sun. My guess is in the arena in the limited seating configuration.
Yes it is at Mohegan. Too bad because every show there sounds terrible and the setup blows.
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Got an email for a groupon for this concert for lawn seats, before the general sale starts today.... I thought that was odd. But it was a good discount, 23 bucks no fees. I bought one. Might still try to get an actual seat with my friends but got this as a cheap back up if my friends fall through and I'm sure I could sell it since the ticket is currently listed at $75 after fees on ticketmaster.
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$75 for lawn?? Wow!
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$75 for lawn?? Wow!
Seems that was the presale price, they are now 41 for the lawn. Still, 23 sounds good to me.
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Pictures!!
I saw Slayer a half dozen times back in the day from The South Of Heaven tour through Divine Intervention.
One of my favorite shows was during a run of club dates in September 1990 before the Seasons In The Abyss tour officially kicked off.
I saw the show in Boston at The Channel. I didn't take any pictures, but here are some pics of my shirt from the show and Jeff Hanneman's pick.
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February 9, 1991
The Orpheum, Boston
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July 6, 1991
Great Woods, Mansfield, Ma
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Nice! I remember when they played at Lake Compounce in CT. That was an awesome show!
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Was there last night in Toronto. What a show, what a lineup.
Finally got to see one of my faves, Testament. They went on at 5:00pm. Skolnick making it look like childsplay.
Behemoth didn't go down too well with the crowd, but the theatrics were kinda cool.
Anthrax nailed it with Joey providing the best vocals of the night. A treat to see Gene Hoglan filling in for Charlie.
Lamb of God. Pretty good show, with Randy Blythe providing much of the entertainment.
Slayer. Great set list. Great playing. Lots of fire. Seemed a bit sad to see Tom (always my favorite member of Slayer) at the end of the show, standing on the stage for at least 5 min, staring into the sold out crowd, taking it all in.
With all these bands, definitely worth going.
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I wish I could have gone - what a stellar lineup of bands. The videos that I saw from the Chicago show looked fantastic.
I saw Testament three times on the Formation tour cycle, and Alex does make playing guitar look so easy. Never have seen Anthrax, Behemoth, or a full LOG set (caught one song at Ozzfest 2004). I just have to settle knowing that I saw the original Slayer lineup before Jeff died, which does make me feel better about not going.
LOG, Anthrax and Testament scheduled a club show in Milwaukee later this fall. If I can win tickets to it through the club's email contest, I may attend. :metal
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Nice, going to this show on Saturday and really looking forward to catching all 5 bands. :metal
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I bought RiB when it came out and my brain had absolutely no clue what the fuck had just hit it. :lol They basically created modern extreme metal and NOBODY (including themselves) ever bettered that album, imho.
I can't listen to anything much past Divine Intervention, tho. Delighted they are calling it a day. The resultant face-palmery from the lyrics of the last couple of decades has been pretty tough to bear. :lol
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Sick concert last Saturday. We lucked out as it never rained but was bummed we got there too late to miss Testament, I was looking forward to checking them out. I blame this guy who is my friends fiance's brother who while pregaming was very adament that the show wouldn't start until 6 even though the venue specifically gave us all the set times with the first band at 5pm sharp. Kind of hard to get a bunch of guys to stop boozing to leave when no one really cared about seeing Testament. Luckily that's all we missed. When we got there the venue was already packed and we had a crappy view from the lawn. Didn't take away from the fun. I must say this type of metal (thrash) isn't really my thing, but I thought all 4 bands brought something unique and fun to the show. Anthrax was a lot of fun and Lamb of God was really good. Other than Slayer having a lot of pyros, I found I enjoyed Anthrax/Lamb of God more. They brought a lot of energy. Maybe it was just a full day of boozing that lead a lot of people to be more chilled for Slayer. Also security was everywhere monitoring the mosh pits, and stopping them when they got too big. I really hate it when that happens, but got to say, no one died (this venue had issues in the past with people dying from too much alcohol on these long metal concerts) so hard to complain about security doing their thing.
Ill admit this is not one of my better videos (I didn't have a great view) but definitely gives a solid representation of the shit show that was this concert (we also had to miss the end of Slayer because my friend shat his pants and was puking)
Slayer/Lamb of God/Anthrax/Behemoth - Live @ PNC Bank Arts Center New Jersey (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rchaHGyscw)
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cramx3. You know it's a great rock show when someone shits their pants. :rollin
Agreed. Although Slayer was badass, Anthrax stole the show. Also, Joey is still an amazing singer and Jon Donais is the best lead guitarist Anthrax has ever had.
Regarding Testament, it was 5:00pm with the sun still shining brightly and the place half empty. But they played like they were at a sold out Madison Square Garden. That's professional right there.
Security at this outdoor venue was pretty chill. Huge moshpit, I even saw some crutches flying around. Although it's a non-smoking venue, you could smell plenty of weed.