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Title: 33 1/3 RPM instrumentals
Post by: dparrott on December 26, 2017, 10:40:56 AM
I had an idea to simulate their instrumentals reduced from 45RPM to 33 1/3 RPM.  I tried Ytse Jam as a test, sounds killer.

https://instaud.io/1A3Q
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Post by: JayOctavarium on December 26, 2017, 10:47:28 AM
MOAR PLEEZE
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Post by: dparrott on December 26, 2017, 11:04:49 AM
Yea I was going to try Overture 1928 and TDOE
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Post by: AngelBack on December 26, 2017, 11:16:01 AM
Wow, that was a good listen, even at normal human speed.
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Post by: Orbert on December 26, 2017, 11:59:17 AM
Like most fogies around here, I grew up with a turntable and vinyl, and turntables always had at least 45 RPM and 33 1/3 RPM.  Most also had 78 RPM, and my first one even had 16 RPM as well.  I have never seen a record meant to be played at 16 RPM, but apparently they existed at some point.

Anyway, sometimes it was fun to play records at the wrong speed on purpose, just to hear.  LPs at 45 were coked out, and singles at 33.3 were on 'ludes.  78 was insanely fun, regardless.
Title: Re: 33 1/3 RPM instrumentals
Post by: dparrott on December 26, 2017, 03:16:05 PM
These are a little higher than 33 1/3 because they sounded better.
Overture 1928 https://instaud.io/1A7B
TDOE https://instaud.io/1A7E
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 26, 2017, 05:29:06 PM
I was ready for Dio to start singing. Ytsejam sounds tight as Hell.
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Post by: Runei on December 26, 2017, 07:13:08 PM
Sounds perfect for guitar practice  :metal

But it would probably sound awful with pitch correction, so I guess I'll just tune way lower.
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Post by: Ninjabait on December 26, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
I love how these sound! The slower tempo takes some getting used to, but there's this...warmth? I guess? to them that the originals don't have. Like, the timbre of everything sounds so nice here. Kind of curious how Enigma Machine or False Awakening Suite would sound with this. Great work!
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Post by: MinistroRaven on December 26, 2017, 10:12:41 PM
RAW DOG please!?!?
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Post by: TheCountOfNYC on December 27, 2017, 06:02:23 PM
I think I speak for everyone here when I say that I would love to hear Stream of Consciousness like this.
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Post by: AngelBack on December 28, 2017, 03:44:09 AM
I think I speak for everyone here when I say that I would love to hear Stream of Consciousness like this.

 :tup
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Post by: rumborak on December 28, 2017, 05:20:48 PM
Sounds perfect for guitar practice  :metal

But it would probably sound awful with pitch correction, so I guess I'll just tune way lower.

That's actually how I learned most solos in my life. You bring it down by a factor of two, so all the notes are just an octave lower.
Title: Re: 33 1/3 RPM instrumentals
Post by: dparrott on December 31, 2017, 08:35:19 PM
Enigma Machine: https://instaud.io/1Bjb
Raw Dog: https://instaud.io/1Bjd
SOC: https://instaud.io/1Bje  Very sad sounding intro. 

Raw Dog and SOC sound a bit like Metallica speed haha.  SOC sounds a bit like Korn in parts.

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Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 31, 2017, 10:00:53 PM
SoC is awesome, love the ending. It sounds like an awesome Metallica ballad.
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Post by: Ninjabait on January 01, 2018, 08:27:25 AM
Raw Dog: Intro riff sounds like it was ripped straight out of a Meshuggah album. The piece sounds so much heavier. It sounds so much better like this imo.

Enigma Machine: Man, that guitar entrance is one of the frickin' heaviest things I've ever heard. The slow section in the middle also sounds incredible like this, it really brings out a lot of the emotion in the piece. There are some moments that don't quite work as well, but it sounds really cool.

Stream of Consciousness: The first two minutes reminds me of Agalloch with synthesizers, haha. Just need to add some Acoustic strumming and growled vocals and it'd be perfect. The middle section (after the solos) sounds like modern Alice in Chains, and the outro sounds like Metallica.

It's really cool how this brings out some of the nuances and influences a bit more clearly than on the album versions. There were bits in Enigma Machine that when I heard it I thought "oh that sounds a lot like Rush" or "that sounds almost classical". It also highlights JR's keyboard part in that slow section I mentioned earlier. Stream of Consciousness too, I noticed a lot of little details that just speed by on the album recording. Having it slowed down makes it a lot easier to pick out all the layers and nuances which is super cool!

The kick always sounds sloppy when it's slowed down though. Weird side-effect.
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Post by: dparrott on January 01, 2018, 11:20:18 AM
EM's keyboard intro sounds even creepier slowed down! I expect something to jump out and attack me! haha
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Post by: TheCountOfNYC on January 01, 2018, 10:08:24 PM
Stream of Consciousness had Crowbar vibes at certain points. Easily my favorite of these so far. I guess Erotomania and Hell's Kitchen are next?
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 01, 2018, 10:38:33 PM
What about Eve, I bet it'd sound nice.
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Post by: pg1067 on January 02, 2018, 11:45:56 AM
dparrott...THANKS for these.  I couldn't listen to all of them at work but will do so later.


Like most fogies around here, I grew up with a turntable and vinyl, and turntables always had at least 45 RPM and 33 1/3 RPM.  Most also had 78 RPM, and my first one even had 16 RPM as well.  I have never seen a record meant to be played at 16 RPM, but apparently they existed at some point.

Anyway, sometimes it was fun to play records at the wrong speed on purpose, just to hear.  LPs at 45 were coked out, and singles at 33.3 were on 'ludes.  78 was insanely fun, regardless.

When I was a kid, we had a console stereo (AM/FM radio and a turntable).  The turntable had 16, 33, 45 and 78 (technically, it's 16 2/3 - i.e., exactly half of the 33 1/3).  The primary market for 16 RPM records was books for the blind, but it was also used in a system for use in Chrysler automobiles.  Needless to say, it wasn't a successful system.

I never found the 16 and 78 settings to be much fun, but playing 33s on the 45 setting and vice versa was pretty cool sometimes.
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Post by: 8GRND on January 04, 2018, 11:37:52 PM
Is anyone know what application that's used to do that?  ??? ??? ???
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Post by: dparrott on January 05, 2018, 11:04:49 PM
I just used the Change Speed function in the software Audacity.  It even has a 45 -> 33 setting.
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Post by: DT1138 on February 12, 2018, 03:14:01 PM
Enigma Machine is one of my fav DT songs and that sounded totally awesome.  I am surprised at how quickly I settled into it once it got going.