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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: Kotowboy on March 20, 2017, 03:36:14 PM
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Be interesting to flip and make a worst roadrunner album poll.
DO IT !!!
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Went with DT12, but it just barely edges out SC for my least favorite DT album.
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SC pretty easily
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In terms of musical arrangement, presentation and vocals TA is pretty awesome but to my personal liking it's my least favourite.
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Systematic Chaos... but Black Clouds & Silver Linings is not much better.
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SC pretty easily
This. Never before or since on a DT albums the heaviest songs were the ones that let me down the most. I don't "hate" the album, it's no St. Anger or Risk or Virtual XI, it's still Dream Theater, but out of seven songs, I find myself liking the easiest one (Forsaken) the most and having made sensible edits to other two (the longest ones) to digest them better and scrap the (to me, of course) pointless solo sections.
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Systematic Chaos for me easily too.
Not "BAD" but it drags too often. In The Presence Of Enemies Part II doesn't live up to Part I. The Ministry Of Lost Souls is far too long for how many sections and ideas it has...
I love The Dark Eternal Night coz it's so wacky and Repentance is also too long for how many ideas it has.
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In terms of ratio of music I listen to and music I don't, The Astonishing.
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DT12 easily
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In terms of ratio of music I listen to and music I don't, The Astonishing.
Hmm but with 34 tracks that kinda would be the same for everyone ?
If you took the 8 absolute best songs from The Astonishing - that would be an incredible album.
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TA easily.
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TA easily.
Please provide reasons.
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SC pretty easily
This. Though it has grown on me recently. That AND Black Clouds.
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I voted SC, but this album still has a saving grace: John Myung.
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Black Clouds & Silver Linings.
TCOT is great and ANTR is good, but the rest is pretty forgettable to me. Outwith the 'top tier' songs on each of the other albums, there are also plenty of decent 'second tier' songs too - eg. Constant Motion or The Bigger Picture.
I don't feel that with BC&SL. It could have done with some serious trimming and the time that saved being used on another track or two. Of course, there'd be no guarantee that any additional tracks would have been any good anyway.
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Systematic Chaos. It's good but a bit bloated and exhausting to get through.
I don't remember if I did this in the best RR albums thread, but this is how they stack up for me.
1: The Astonishing
2: A Dramatic Turn of Events
3: Black Clouds & Silver Linings
4: Dream Theater
5: Systematic Chaos
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Not "BAD" but it drags too often. In The Presence Of Enemies Part II doesn't live up to Part I. The Ministry Of Lost Souls is far too long for how many sections and ideas it has...
I don't think Ministry has too much going on. Verse, bridge, chorus (x2), post-chorus, a random solo section which feels to me conjured up in LTE mode and copied and pasted into the song, and the final bridge / chorus and outro. Feels like a standard song brought over the 10+ minute mark by the solo section.
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TA easily.
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Black Clouds by far
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SC without a doubt. Followed closely by BC&SL.
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Systematic Snoozefest
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BC&SL
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Systematic Snoozefest
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Black Clouds & Silver Linings.
While it still has some great moments (TCOT), the album as a whole is very weird, out of place and sounds like they didn't have a very well defined idea of what kind of album they wanted to create. They went too far with the heavy/dark elements for the sake of it. Also, ROOOOAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :facepalm:
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SC- Easy
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So - these two polls have shown that most people's favourite :soon: album is A Dramatic Turn Of Events with The Astonishing in second place despite the protestations.
Dream Theater third, with Black Clouds then Systematic Chaos finishing at the bottom.
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It's interesting how TA is currently in second for favorite RR record while also being in second for least favorite.
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I'm probably way off but i'm guessing that some people voted it for worst just to prove a point.
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To prove they don't like it?
I'm not surprised. TA seems to be either a love it or hate it album.
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I'm just glad they did something out of left field instead of the relatively safe two previous albums.
I'd be A-Ok with a couple more DT by numbers albums if every third album was a bit of a departure.
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Id be fine with it too, I loved TA. I mean I voted ADTOE to be better because I like that album more, but I'd take some more risks from DT. Sadly, I'm not sure how much more risks they are willing to take.
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TA seems to be either a love it or hate it album.
That's kinda what I was getting at, that seemed to be the opinion of the forum since it was released. These polls show that I guess.
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If the next album is a full collaborative effort by the 5 members (which would mean much more input from Myung, Mangini and LaBrie) the album will end up being something new, fresh, and, probably, unexpected :smiley:
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This is one instance where TA easily gets my vote. DT isn't far behind it.
Systematic Snoozefest
I'm pretty sure TA has more lullabies than SC. :rollin
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EASILY "TA". It's at best "ok"
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DT12
Once again, ADTOE proves to be the most well liked one of the RoadRunner era, having the most votes in the favorite poll and only one in the least favorite poll. Good to know.
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If there was another poll - it should be " Favourite production of the :soon: albums. "
I think The Astonishing or Black Clouds sound the best and Systematic Chaos the least best due to it's hot / dry mastering.
A Dramatic Turn sounds almost demo quality. Probably more so than Systematic Chaos.
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If there was another poll - it should be " Favourite production of the :soon: albums. "
I think The Astonishing or Black Clouds sound the best and Systematic Chaos the least best due to it's hot / dry mastering.
A Dramatic Turn sounds almost demo quality. Probably more so than Systematic Chaos.
Yeah that would be an interesting one as well. I think either TA or Black Clouds would get my vote. Due mainly to the fact that SC, ADTOE, and DT12 are sonically some of the worst in DT's catalog.
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TA sounds fantastic, easily the best sounding IMO.
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Tough call between SC and TA.
I went with TA, because while SC had transgressions of its own, at least they were "confined" for lack of a better word. TA has so many varied flaws that you can never say "at least aspect X of the album is consistently good".
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Easily BC&SL. So disappointing.
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TA easily.
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I notice that people are giving reasons why they dislike all the albums
Except The Astonishing - where " The Astonishing is the worst " and that's it.
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The Astonishing is really the path that divides.
:neverusethis:
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While I think BC&SL has slightly better songwriting than SC, SC has more of a personality, if that makes sense, but it's still hard to not vote for SC, since at least half of the songs have glaring flaws that make me not want to listen to them. And it's the one DT album to date, IMO, that doesn't have one great song on it.
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The Astonishing is really the path that divides.
:neverusethis:
:rollin
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I notice that people are giving reasons why they dislike all the albums
Except The Astonishing - where " The Astonishing is the worst " and that's it.
Tough call between SC and TA.
I went with TA, because while SC had transgressions of its own, at least they were "confined" for lack of a better word. TA has so many varied flaws that you can never say "at least aspect X of the album is consistently good".
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Tough call between SC and TA.
I went with TA, because while SC had transgressions of its own, at least they were "confined" for lack of a better word. TA has so many varied flaws that you can never say "at least aspect X of the album is consistently good".
Did you mean the x aspect is consistently good? :biggrin:
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I notice that people are giving reasons why they dislike all the albums
Except The Astonishing - where " The Astonishing is the worst " and that's it.
It's the short answer, that's all. Most people wouldn't have a couple weeks to explain it in detail.
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...AND they're really smug about it.
It's like " Uh yeah - THE ASTONISHING is the worst..Sucks that You like it... "
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I'm not saying I hate The Astonishing and I'm not saying I don't. But I do.
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The Astonishing. I really don't like the concept, or the lyrics, and it's way too long to hold my interest.