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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: twosuitsluke on March 14, 2017, 05:42:18 PM
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I wanted to make a topic to discuss how the use of playlists effects how we all listen to music nowadays.
I don't mean a playlist of individual songs (although that's fine too, if that's what you enjoy doing) but how you use playlists to organise the way you listen to your music.
As my music library grows (probably close to 2000 albums, and that's just what's on my iPod) I use playlists to organise my music and make sure that I am dividing my time between all my music/albums. For example, on my iPod I have a variety of playlists:
- My Classic Faves (all my 4/5 star rated songs)
- My Top Rated (all my 5 star rated songs)
- My Recent Top Rated (the 300 most recently played 5 star rated songs)
- 2015 (all the music I discovered in 2015, not just albums released in 2015)
- 2016 (all the music I discovered in 2016, not just albums released in 2016)
- 2016 Releases (speaks for itself)
- 2017 (all the music I discovered in 2017, not just albums released in 2017)
- Classic Albums (all my all time favourite albums, new and old)
- Current Faves (all my recent favourite albums, this rotates a lot and I change out/in albums depending on how much I am loving these albums still)
- Extreme Metal (all the extreme metal obvs)
- a current On-The-Go (I make up a new one every week or so with some albums I'm really digging or something I just fancy listening to)
- Progressive Music (speaks for itself, progressive music of all varieties)
- Punk Rock (also speaks for itself)
That pretty much covers all the playlists on my iPod. I also use Spotify mainly to discover new music and give albums a try, on Spotify I currently have a playlist with about 100+ albums that I have been meaning to check out. It's organised alphabetically by album title and I'm working through it trying out new albums, recommendations. There is also a playlist that I put all songs discovered via the 'Discover Weekly' Spotify playlist into, to keep track. With so much music out there I find I have to organise all my music like this and rotate through these playlists to make sure I don't just listen to the same old things and I give everything a fair amount of listens. Admittedly I have become more and more anal about these playlists as time goes on but I am so hungry for new music.
I do predominantly listen to albums on the whole and I have found this is the easiest way for me to do this.
In short, are any of you guys similar in how you listen to music? It was easy back in the day when I had a few hundred CDs and I could just look at my albums and pick something out. Now though, having all this music at your fingertips (and frequenting DTF so much) I am always discovering new bands/having to make time to listen to new releases.
If anyone else gets me and does the same it will be someone here :tup
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How I use playlists is very simple. If a band has two album which I enjoy, but not from beginning to end, then I will make a playlist combining my favorites songs from each album. For example
1. I combined songs from Test for echo and Presto and made the playlist "Test for presto"
2. I combined songs from Fear of the dark and no prayer for the dying to make "Fear of dying"
This all happened because I noticed that there were a bunch of albums in my collection that were not getting listened to, because I really don't like skipping songs, especially since I listen to music while driving a lot. So this solution helps out big time.
Besides that I just listen to whole albums, and if a whole album has just 1 or 2 songs I don't like, then I will just uncheck those songs from the album, so they are no longer on my iphone.
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I find making playlists to be more fun than actually listening to them. Certain eras have playlists I revisit quite a bit (80s, classic rock), but by and large, I am still an album guy, or artist (like, I will listen to a specific artist for several days in a row, bouncing from album to album).
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How I use playlists is very simple. If a band has two album which I enjoy, but not from beginning to end, then I will make a playlist combining my favorites songs from each album. For example
1. I combined songs from Test for echo and Presto and made the playlist "Test for presto"
2. I combined songs from Fear of the dark and no prayer for the dying to make "Fear of dying"
This all happened because I noticed that there were a bunch of albums in my collection that were not getting listened to, because I really don't like skipping songs, especially since I listen to music while driving a lot. So this solution helps out big time.
That's a new one on me :lol
I really like to try to listen to albums on the whole where I can, if I don't like the album that much I just don't end up listening to it that much. If there are songs I like though they will be given 4 or 5 stars so they automatically add to the iTunes smart playlist for these rated songs. If I'm sometimes driving or just fancy listening to my fave songs on random then I stick these playlists on. Other than that I mainly listen to albums in full.
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I love making Playlist for mowing my lawn then I post them on Facebook and link friends. Sometimes it turns them onto music, sometimes it leads to hilarity.
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I find making playlists to be more fun than actually listening to them.
:lol
I know exactly what you mean. It was like setting up my hockey cards when I was a kid. Now what?! :lol
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I don't use playlists :P
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I find making playlists to be more fun than actually listening to them. Certain eras have playlists I revisit quite a bit (80s, classic rock), but by and large, I am still an album guy, or artist (like, I will listen to a specific artists for several days in a row, bouncing from album to album).
I'm totally an album guy and I listen to all these playlists shuffling the albums, I don't listen to individual songs on random (except for my 4/5 star rated songs playlists). I used to listen to a certain artist, or a few, for days at a time but I honestly hardly ever do that anymore.
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I find making playlists to be more fun than actually listening to them.
:lol
I know exactly what you mean. It was like setting up my hockey cards when I was a kid. Now what?! :lol
Haha, yep.
I find making playlists to be more fun than actually listening to them. Certain eras have playlists I revisit quite a bit (80s, classic rock), but by and large, I am still an album guy, or artist (like, I will listen to a specific artists for several days in a row, bouncing from album to album).
I'm totally an album guy and I listen to all these playlists shuffling the albums, I don't listen to individual songs on random (except for my 4/5 star rated songs playlists). I used to listen to a certain artist, or a few, for days at a time but I honestly hardly ever do that anymore.
A buddy of mine made himself a "1,000" list a few years ago, meaning a playlist of his favorite 1,000 songs, which he calls the greatest radio station for himself, and I took a crack at its as well, but the few times I put it on random, just hearing a song from this band or that band just made me want to hear more songs by those bands. Once I get a band in my head or something, I often want nothing but music by them for the rest of the day, a few days, or even a week or two sometimes. And then it fades and I am on to someone else. It's just how my process often works.
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As an album-listener, nearly all of my playlists on my iPod and phone are based on that fact. Album playlists typically are made with all session songs in mind, and this is a tactic I've done since the early 00's before mp3s got hugely popular. I used to mix songs with new crossfades and burn them onto CD-r's for personal listening, essentially making my own playlists (as much as 80 minutes could fit). With mp3s now, I can do so much more in terms of creating a "complete album" playlist.
For bands, I tend to group chunks of their albums into "Eras" or "Phases" of their history, listening to those groups of albums in chronological order. Some examples include:
-The Beatles: I have playlists by year, which includes albums and songs released in a single year as ONE playlist, but also chunks of albums as playlists
-Rush: the obvious one, 5 sets of albums in their "Sectors", Rush to 2112, AFTK to MP, SIG to HYF, Presto to TFE, and VT to CA (sans Feedback cuz...it's Feedback)
-King Crimson: Again, another one with eras, so the first four albums, then the 3 Wetton-Era albums, then the 3 Belew-Era albums of the 80's, then everything after that.
There are hundreds of similar playlists on my iPod, but they're all separated into a single band. Rarely do I ever find myself wanting to listen to more than one band at a time, unless it's a collection of singles or various covers, like a playlist of Classic Prog Songs covered by Modern Prog Artists: "Starless" by Neal Morse, "The Cinema Show" by The Flower Kings, "La Villa Strangiato" from the Working Man Tribute, etc. etc.
Otherwise, the majority of my playlists are just albums (with some non-album tracks and b-sides mixed in, where applicable). I list them by "Band/Artist - Number (typically equating album number, debuts = 1, pre-debut demos = 0, between-album EPs or live albums get an X.5 - then album title", like so:
DT 01 - WDADU
DT 02 - IAW
DT 02.5 - LATM Expanded
DT 03 - Awake
DT 04 - FII
DT 04.5 - OIALT Complete
DT 05 - SFAM
... ... ...and so on and so forth
The music-by-year-of-release idea intrigues me, because I have kept lists of albums I have bought and/or listened to by year over the last 7 or 8 years, so it'd be fun to go back and put those albums into a playlist based on when each was released, and relive that "Year of Music"!
-Marc.
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I don't use playlists :P
Do you just keep track of everything I your head dude?
Also, I call bullshit :lol
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I use mix cd's! ;D
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I use mix cd's! ;D
Those were the days, a simpler time. I have made mix CD's for friends in recent times but I don't make them for myself. I just get bored of them too quickly, I could make a really cool mix but I just get bored and want to make another. If I have all my favourite songs in one playlist then every time I put it on random it's like a new mix CD.
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I love making Playlist for mowing my lawn then I post them on Facebook and link friends. Sometimes it turns them onto music, sometimes it leads to hilarity.
Yea I should do that. I can always trust a few of my friends to still appreciate some of the random crap I suggest they listen to. It'd also be fun to just tag friends who I know would hate it. Also, you have Lawnmower Deth on this playlist right?
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I use mix cd's! ;D
That's me in the car. I have ZERO original CDs in the car. I burn CDs for the car, and with mp3s, you can get tons of songs on a single CD, even when having HQ rips (I rip everything at the highest quality possible).
Example of my CDs for the car (the first ones are the few artists where I need more than one since I cannot get all of the songs I want to hear by them on one mp3 CD):
Rush (x2)
Dream Theater (x2)
Porcupine Tree (x2)
Neal Morse (x2)
Devin Townsend (x2)
Genesis
Flower Kings
Steve Howe-era Yes/Steve Howe solo
Trevor Rabin-era Yes/Trevor Rabin solo
U2
Beatles/assorted solo songs by Lennon, McCartney and Harrison
Death Cab/Arcade Fire
Queen
Blue Oyster Cult/Kansas (might seem like a weird combo, but I got into both around the same time, so I will always relate the two, and I can condense the songs I want to hear by both on a regular basis on to one CD)
Zeppelin
Sabbath/Ozzy solo
Styx/Damn Yankees/Shaw and Blades/Tommy Shaw
Muse
80s hits (x3 - 8083, 84-86 and 87-89)
Tears for Fears/Talking Heads
Coldplay/dredg/Flying Colors (how's that for a trio :P)
Flaming Lips
Metallica/Queensryche
Judas Priest
Boston/Heart/Triumph
Van Halen
And many more I cannot think of.
Making mixed CDs is fun. :biggrin:
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I love making Playlist for mowing my lawn then I post them on Facebook and link friends. Sometimes it turns them onto music, sometimes it leads to hilarity.
Yea I should do that. I can always trust a few of my friends to still appreciate some of the random crap I suggest they listen to. It'd also be fun to just tag friends who I know would hate it. Also, you have Lawnmower Deth on this playlist right?
I do not! :lol
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I love making Playlist for mowing my lawn then I post them on Facebook and link friends. Sometimes it turns them onto music, sometimes it leads to hilarity.
Yea I should do that. I can always trust a few of my friends to still appreciate some of the random crap I suggest they listen to. It'd also be fun to just tag friends who I know would hate it. Also, you have Lawnmower Deth on this playlist right?
I do not! :lol
Well you missed a trick there.
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I don't use playlists :P
Do you just keep track of everything I your head dude?
Also, I call bullshit :lol
I just listen to albums lol
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I don't know that I've ever made a playlist.
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I don't use playlists :P
Do you just keep track of everything I your head dude?
Also, I call bullshit :lol
I just listen to albums lol
Me too. I don't know why this is such a hilarious or outlandish thing to do.
For things I don't have on CD (stuff I have dl'ed over the years), they are in the appropriate folders on my computer. I don't use playlists for that music either. When I want to listen to dance music, I open that folder and hit shuffle. I've never felt compelled to make a playlist. But I know others do, so carry on here.
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When I want to listen to dance music, I open that folder and hit shuffle.
When I want to listen to dance music, I usually jab myself in the eye with a long knitting needle.
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I don't use playlists :P
You rebel.
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All of the playlists I have in Spotify are either full albums that I want to listen to at some point (I find it easier to manage them all as playlists and use the playlist folders), or are roulette playlists.
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I currently have two playlists on Spotify. One for my hard rock/alternative metal/heavy metal stuff and one for the non-hard rock stuff (Zac Brown Band, Lindsey Stirling, Justin Timberlake, etc.)
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The only reason I made playlists on Spotify is
1.) Roulettes (made several playlists assigned to several hosts with music in it I thought they might like)
2.) For friends who wanted me to share music with them (again, made a playlist with music I thought they might like)
3.) I have one playlist where I gather all the songs I consider "favourites" at this point, whenever I feel like a song drops below the favourite threshold I move it out. I've played this playlist like once but found that my all-time favourite songs all have their own time and place, not as enjoyable listening to front to back.
Me, I pretty much never use playlists. Most of the time I already know beforehand what album I want to listen to and I'll play it. If not, I will just scroll through my albums and pick something I'm in the mood for.
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All of the playlists I have in Spotify are either full albums that I want to listen to at some point (I find it easier to manage them all as playlists and use the playlist folders), or are roulette playlists.
Yea, that's pretty much exactly how I use Spotify. I only have it on my laptop at home so I use it for checking out new albums.
Me, I pretty much never use playlists. Most of the time I already know beforehand what album I want to listen to and I'll play it. If not, I will just scroll through my albums and pick something I'm in the mood for.
This was how I used to be. I guess some of you just have smaller music collections. I didn't use playlists at all really when my collection was smaller as I could just scroll through, as you say, and choose what I fancy. The use of my playlists now is to condense my music so that I don't have to scroll so much and can just think "I want to listen to some extreme metal" and find something from that playlist. Last year was a great year for music discovery for me so my '2016' playlist is full of great stuff. So yea, if like me you have a large collection of albums and don't want to spend time scrolling through them all then you may also use playlists to make the job easier for yourself. If I just listened to the albums/bands that popped into my head then it would limit my listening as half the time I'd forget about some stuff I have on my iPod or albums I may not have listened to in like a year.
As I said, I do get a bit anal about it all :lol
I just know there are a lot of people out here who discover a ton of new music each year and just wondered if they were like me with how they organise it all? :corn
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I mostly listen to entire albums, beginning to end. Occasionally I do this:
How I use playlists is very simple. If a band has two album which I enjoy, but not from beginning to end, then I will make a playlist combining my favorites songs from each album.
I do them with similar albums, for example consecutive ones; for example I would see myself making a mix of Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds, but not of Awake and A Dramatic Turn of Events. Or, at least, "thematic" albums, for example there's an italian rock band that since the reunion with the original singer made two albums and had two new songs on a live album, I made a mix of all of that.
But these are the exception, I still listen to entire albums. Where I get wild with my fantasy is the compilations I make to listen on the mp3 player when I go to work, knowing how long the trip lasts I organize them all of the proper length, and 99% of them are organized like setlists.
I go as far as planning the "encore" and rotating songs between "tours" like Mike Portnoy would. Say, an album of a band I like comes out, I make a compilation like if it was a tour for that album, and then next album I put in a lot of the new songs and swap some of the older ones. Yeah, I'm that weird :D
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I only listen to full albums.
On vinyl.
On a vintage record player from 1973.
With Koss Pro4AAs headphones.
In a dark room lying on the floor.
Any other way of listening to music is insulting and if you do it any other way, you don't deserve to be listening to music.
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I only listen to full albums.
On vinyl.
On a vintage record player from 1973.
With Koss Pro4AAs headphones.
In a dark room lying on the floor.
Any other way of listening to music is insulting and if you do it any other way, you don't deserve to be listening to music.
Oh hey Steven, I didn't realise you had a profile on here.
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I only listen to full albums.
On vinyl.
On a vintage record player from 1973.
With Koss Pro4AAs headphones.
In a dark room lying on the floor.
Any other way of listening to music is insulting and if you do it any other way, you don't deserve to be listening to music.
Oh hey Steven, I didn't realise you had a profile on here.
Heh, I originally was going to end it with "I might be Steven Wilson" but for some reason didn't.
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I only listen to full albums.
On vinyl.
On a vintage record player from 1973.
With Koss Pro4AAs headphones.
In a dark room lying on the floor.
Any other way of listening to music is insulting and if you do it any other way, you don't deserve to be listening to music.
Oh hey Steven, I didn't realise you had a profile on here.
Heh, I originally was going to end it with "I might be Steven Wilson" but for some reason didn't.
:rollin
I do kind of see his point about playlists of songs ruining how a lot of music is intended to be listened to, as albums. But as I stated, most of my playlists are more collections of albums that I listen to as albums. Wonder what his view on that would be? Still not favourable I'd imagine.
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I find making playlists to be more fun than actually listening to them. Certain eras have playlists I revisit quite a bit (80s, classic rock), but by and large, I am still an album guy, or artist (like, I will listen to a specific artist for several days in a row, bouncing from album to album).
Yep, this exactly. I don't really do playlists. If there's no album/artist I'm particularly in the mood for, I'll normally put either my whole collection on random shuffle, or a sub-set (e.g. year, genre).
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As my music library grows (probably close to 2000 albums, and that's just what's on my iPod)
I've got a 64GB iPod and I can only fit about 300'ish albums on it and I thought that was the largest capacity iPod?
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They don't make it anymore but the iPod Classic went up to 160GB.
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I used to just shuffle my iPod on walks anyway since the more music I had on there - the harder it was to actually choose something.
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Yea, I have a 160gb iPod. It really pissed me off when I found out they'd stopped making them. There's more money to be made on streaming services but I like to have my music all on my iPod. That's a whole other issue but yea, I don't know what I'm going to do when my iPod dies :tdwn
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I bought a Creative mp3 player back in the day.
It lasted one month.
They sent me a replacement.
It lasted two weeks.
They sent me a further replacement.
It's lasting since twelve years and still going strong ;D
I know I'm anachronistic but I don't even know what kind of mp3 player devices are around now. If my mp3 player, by now one of my most beloved objects, dies out, I'll have to educate myself about the current technology.
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I find making playlists to be more fun than actually listening to them. Certain eras have playlists I revisit quite a bit (80s, classic rock), but by and large, I am still an album guy, or artist (like, I will listen to a specific artist for several days in a row, bouncing from album to album).
I am exactly like this. Normaly, i listen to full albums, and by the same artist for some days (sometimes weeks). But i use playlists of individual songs for stuff like 80's pop, 90's alternative, Synthwave, Power Metal, Krautrock, instrumental music etc.
I use Spotify as my main source of music.
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Yea, I have a 160gb iPod. It really pissed me off when I found out they'd stopped making them. There's more money to be made on streaming services but I like to have my music all on my iPod. That's a whole other issue but yea, I don't know what I'm going to do when my iPod dies :tdwn
FiiO make some interesting devices, albeit expensive ones. but if my iPod Classic died tomorrow I'd probably just buy a 128GB or 200GB micro SD and stick it in my phone.
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Where are you going to go that you need to take 160 GB worth of music with you ?
It's not like before iPods / MP3 players we took our entire CD collection on holiday or anything.
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You're completely right. You know what, we should stop using social media to stay in touch with acquiantances/friends too, since before the existence of the internet no one was sending smoke signals to their friends to ask them to hang out with them either.
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Where are you going to go that you need to take 160 GB worth of music with you ?
It's not like before iPods / MP3 players we took our entire CD collection on holiday or anything.
I don't always know now what I will want to listen to later. :lol If I only had some tiny 16GB thing, I'd have to decide which 16GB of stuff I want to take before I go anywhere, and too bad if I thought of something else I wanted to listen to and didn't have it. Considering that my music collection exceeds 300GB (smaller if it were all MP3, but still) - that's very likely to happen.
And you're right that we didn't take our entire CD libraries away with us back in the day - but that's only because it was impractical to do so. MP3 players make it practical.
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Where are you going to go that you need to take 160 GB worth of music with you ?
It's not like before iPods / MP3 players we took our entire CD collection on holiday or anything.
What I love is that I used to carry a case that held 32 CD's and I have to continually shuffle CD's in and out. Now my music is on my 160 GB I-Pod and it's grab and go no matter where I am.
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I only listen to full albums.
On vinyl.
On a vintage record player from 1973.
With Koss Pro4AAs headphones.
In a dark room lying on the floor.
Any other way of listening to music is insulting and if you do it any other way, you don't deserve to be listening to music.
On a bearskin rug, with candles lit, wine in one hand, lotion in the other and tissues close by.
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You're completely right. You know what, we should stop using social media to stay in touch with acquiantances/friends too, since before the existence of the internet no one was sending smoke signals to their friends to ask them to hang out with them either.
Oh you're one of THOSE people...
I don't agree with what you're saying so i'll come up with the most backward, worst case scenario reply and that means I'm right. End of.
Also your analogy makes no sense.
When have we EVER carried our entire music collection with us everywhere we go ?
We could always call people on landline / house phones... And we've had public phone booths for decades...
MP3 players are just a luxury.. you're implying that before them - listening to music was a chore.
Also first world problems brah.
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Never was it a chore but now it's much easier. It takes me minutes to put together a playlist unlike the old day burning on a CD.
BTW I have over 400GB of music so 160 seems small to me. :lol
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but the few times I put it on random, just hearing a song from this band or that band just made me want to hear more songs by those bands. Once I get a band in my head or something, I often want nothing but music by them for the rest of the day, a few days, or even a week or two sometimes. And then it fades and I am on to someone else. It's just how my process often works.
I'm the same way - I'll get on a kick and listen to nothing but a particular band's albums for a few days, sometimes even a week straight. I never use playlists and just pick whatever I want to listen to at the moment. Sometimes that means my favorite records. Sometimes it means I'll dig through my collection and listen to something that I haven't heard in a long time and rediscover it.
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Not long ago, I made one with nothing but ballads, to listen while studying. Before that, I can't remember when.
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I don't agree with what you're saying so i'll come up with the most backward, worst case scenario reply and that means I'm right. End of.
It's not really a matter of agreeing/disagreeing with you. I just thought it was amusing that you make remarks about people who bring more music with them when they head out than the amount they need, given their device has the space to store huge amounts of music anyway. No one *needs* 160GB of music when they go to the grocery store, but would you actively remove music you like just so you have more space on your device that is being put to no use?
I'll admit that the analogy was terrible, that was kind of the point I tried to make - which you apparently completely missed.
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The real reason why people have 160GB devices is - because they can :P
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Where are you going to go that you need to take 160 GB worth of music with you ?
It's not like before iPods / MP3 players we took our entire CD collection on holiday or anything.
What I love is that I used to carry a case that held 32 CD's and I have to continually shuffle CD's in and out. Now my music is on my 160 GB I-Pod and it's grab and go no matter where I am.
This.
I used to make a lot of 'themed' playlists, but as Tim/Kev said, I usually spent more time making the playlist than listening to it. Things like:
Double/Double - songs with the exact same title. You'd be surprised how many there are - I think I have 7 or 8 songs titled Promised Land.
All The Young Dudes - songs with a 'male' reference in the title
Along Comes a Woman - ditto... but 'female'
I've got a couple dozen of these kinds of themes. As my library continued to grow (it's about 17k songs on iTunes; and 200+ saved albums on Spotify), it was impossible to keep updating these, so I just gave up. I've got about a dozen go-to playlists depending on my mood - epics, instrumentals, power ballads, mellow stuff, 'best-of' from a specific genre/era, acoustic etc..
But, 90% of the time, I'm just choosing a band/genre, and going with an entire album.
@ Kotow... what the hell does "one of THOSE people" mean? So far, you're the only one talking about the silliness of large capacity media devices, while multiple people are talking about their convenience. I'm with ToN and King on this. If technology allows me to do something effortlessly (eg, take my music collection with me everywhere), why wouldn't I? I've learned to appreciate the conveniences that technology provides. For whatever reason, in the case of one's music library, you haven't. Which is fine, but you don't need to go (mildly) bashing those of us that do.
Your logic and reasoning is baffling. Technology has evolved with the times, as has the way humans use it in their everyday lives. By your logic, landlines were unnecessary in the early 20th century, because people always had telegraphs? But then, the telegraph was unnecessary because there was the postal service. But they too were unnecessary because there were carrier pigeons. And. So. On.
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It's not the capacity that I think is silly Since you're never going to listen to everything on there in one day.
It's just when people complain that you can no longer get 160GB iPods like they've been inconvenienced.
Just pick 32GB of your absolute favourite music and put that on there.
I wasn't saying " 160GB of music is stupid since we have CDs and we never took 160GB worth of CDs everywhere we went ".
Just when people complain that they can no longer get 160GB iPods when the majority of what would be on there goes unlistened.
:) :hug: :chill :heart :hat
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I get ya, but I love that I can hold 2/5 of my ever growing music collection.
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Generally I listen to albums as a whole. Most of my music is organized through Spotify so I follow and save albums by bands I like and know well, or just follow bands I like but need to dig into more. I use playlists to determine whether or not I want to follow an artist and check more out. I have a playlist called "Look Into" where I put any songs from my discover weekly playlist that stood out to me. I also put recommendations from other people or just albums I've heard are great in there.
I have a playlist that I started doing with all new releases from artists I like from that year. Ex: "2016 releases", and a "2017 releases" for this year. I usually put those on to check out new stuff I've been wanting to listen to at work or on long car rides.
I also have "show" playlists. I have several friends who all share music. We all put music in playlists (i.e "Show Justin" or "Show Catherine") and share them with each other.
Other than that I just have a playlist for really nostalgic songs that I have a lot of memories with. Overall though most playlists are solely for the purpose of getting into an artists and eventually I'll just listen to full albums if I dig them enough to check out more.
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It's not the capacity that I think is silly Since you're never going to listen to everything on there in one day.
It's just when people complain that you can no longer get 160GB iPods like they've been inconvenienced.
Just pick 32GB of your absolute favourite music and put that on there.
For some of us, it is an inconvenience to routinely rotate and re-sync music based on what we think we might want to listen to at any given time. Yes, 1st world problems. I like the convenience of listening to whatever I want from my library, whenever I want it. I used to have a 64GB iPhone, and it was a pain every time I bought new albums that I had to think about what would have to delete so that I could include the new albums
Let's assume you have a few dozen apps on your iPhone/Android. What you're suggesting is tantamount to saying that it's ok to just live with an 8GB device, and just take the apps you need, because you can always re-sync/reload the apps you don't use the next time you're at your computer.
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I actually never make playlists. Maybe I'm missing out, but I usually just listen to albums.
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I'm gonna go with Jingle here. It's 2017 and storage is cheap. I see no reason not to have larger capacity. It doesn't matter how likely I am to listen to it. The purpose of an iPod is to store music, I see no reason that it shouldn't be able to store all of it, especially when the storage is readily available and plenty of people are willing to pay for it. It's just nice to be able to put everything in one place and be organized. It bothers me significantly not to have everything organized and stored it one place.
But there are plenty of 128 GB phones or smart phones with SD card capability that can serve that purpose just fine.
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It's not the capacity that I think is silly Since you're never going to listen to everything on there in one day.
It's just when people complain that you can no longer get 160GB iPods like they've been inconvenienced.
Just pick 32GB of your absolute favourite music and put that on there.
I wasn't saying " 160GB of music is stupid since we have CDs and we never took 160GB worth of CDs everywhere we went ".
Just when people complain that they can no longer get 160GB iPods when the majority of what would be on there goes unlistened.
:) :hug: :chill :heart :hat
Sorry, boss, have to disagree with you on this one. I love having all my music with me (I have something like 1500 CDs; it's about 130GB at 128kbps). It just doesn't work for me to continually synch things every day, especially since I travel a fair amount.
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It's not the capacity that I think is silly Since you're never going to listen to everything on there in one day.
It's just when people complain that you can no longer get 160GB iPods like they've been inconvenienced.
Just pick 32GB of your absolute favourite music and put that on there.
I wasn't saying " 160GB of music is stupid since we have CDs and we never took 160GB worth of CDs everywhere we went ".
Just when people complain that they can no longer get 160GB iPods when the majority of what would be on there goes unlistened.
:) :hug: :chill :heart :hat
Sorry, boss, have to disagree with you on this one. I love having all my music with me (I have something like 1500 CDs; it's about 130GB at 128kbps). It just doesn't work for me to continually synch things every day, especially since I travel a fair amount.
Yeah exactly.
Will my life be ruined by it? No, of course not. But I want my collection to be available to me so that I don't need to predict what I want to listen to in advance, and it's frustrating that the only high capacity players that still exist seem to be pretty expensive. And unnecessarily so, as high-capacity microSD cards show that storage is just not very expensive now.
Yea, I have a 160gb iPod. It really pissed me off when I found out they'd stopped making them. There's more money to be made on streaming services but I like to have my music all on my iPod. That's a whole other issue but yea, I don't know what I'm going to do when my iPod dies :tdwn
FiiO make some interesting devices, albeit expensive ones. but if my iPod Classic died tomorrow I'd probably just buy a 128GB or 200GB micro SD and stick it in my phone.
This is exactly what I did a few months ago when my iPod Classic decided to stop working (after the customary Apple 3-year lifecycle, though lower than standard for the iPod Classic which normally seemed to last longer than other Apple products). Couldn't find anything that looked right, so just got a 128GB card (which fit my full collection - for now anyway) and spent a couple of quid on a decent Android music player.
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I keep all my music on my Ipod.
I keep my Ipod in my car, which is the most common way I listen to it.
I break up my music into multiple playlists.
Because of how it's set up, having all of my music on my Ipod at once is paramount.
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Where are you going to go that you need to take 160 GB worth of music with you ?
It's not like before iPods / MP3 players we took our entire CD collection on holiday or anything.
I take my iPod with me pretty much everywhere I go. I like to have all my music with me so if I want to listen to anything, I can. I'm the sort of person who can listen to multiple genres in one day and can suddenly have the urge to listen to a certain band. If the technology is there then I'm going to use it. I used to have a 20gb Creative and then a 32gb Creative mp3 player. I ended up converting all my files to 128kbps just so I could fit it all on and then had to delete something everytime I got something new. I got my 160gb out in Australia when I was out there about 4 and a half years ago. It's still going strong and I'm now spoilt by the luxury of it.
I'm not a fan of Apple and refused to get an iPod for years. Unfortunately they pretty much monopolized the market so if I wanted an mp3 player with a large memory I had to get an iPod. Now they have stopped producing these large iPods to try to push people towards Apple Music (which is why I was so pissed off about it).
Having an iPod has given me the ability to feed this playlist addiction even more as I have so much music at my fingertips. Anyway, I could go on.
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I love my 160GB iPod classic. I'll be super bummed when it dies. I love the ability to have all my music on a separate device, usually in my car. I still have music on my iPhone, but it's usually just a dozen or so albums that I'm into at the moment.
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in reply to the original post, I don't use playlists often. I have a few, mostly for my personal greatest hits from favorite bands, but I don't have a "mix tape" of multiple artists/songs as a single playlist.
Perhaps it's an age thing? I'm in my 40s, so I am still very much an "album" guy, despite me listening to 95 percent of my music in digital formats. I end up listening to complete albums that way. I still buy CDs, but they get ripped, liner notes read, and ultimately, shelved. Right now, I have Mastodon's The Hunter playing on my iTunes on a laptop. I haven't looked at the CD itself since I bought it and opened it initially.
So no, I don't really use playlists in the manner you do. I just don't like to cherry pick SONGS. I prefer to listen to where a band was, completely, in a certain timeframe, which makes the full album appealing, as opposed to a playlist.
That said, I have noticed with the huge influx of new releases (studio, live, etc.) that come out now every year, I find myself spending less time with records, which is a bummer. I'm going back and re-listening to something that didn't click initially, and finding out I just didn't give it the right time, or my head wasn't into what was being done at the time. Perhaps your playlist listening/arranging would have helped me get to that sooner.
But I don't really foresee myself doing it. I'll likely just stick to album listening.
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So no, I don't really use playlists in the manner you do. I just don't like to cherry pick SONGS. I prefer to listen to where a band was, completely, in a certain timeframe, which makes the full album appealing, as opposed to a playlist.
I'm against chery picking songs too, when it comes to albums. I always read here and there "Whenever I listen to this album I skip this song", the concept of skipping is alien to me. If I feel like listening to an album, I'm inclined to hear that whole album.
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I don't use playlists :P
Do you just keep track of everything I your head dude?
Also, I call bullshit :lol
I just listen to albums lol
Me too. I don't know why this is such a hilarious or outlandish thing to do.
Same here. Occasionally I'll make a playlist for maybe my next flight or something, but typically I just listen to albums, or maybe a band/my entire phone on shuffle. Samsung's music player on their phones has a queue. You can just add songs or albums to your listening queue which is sort of like your live playlist. So I might just put on an album and then add another album or two to the queue so once the first album is done, it'll go to the next.
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It all depends on the mood I'm in. Sometimes it's full albums, sometimes it's a playlist.
I also like making a playlist of concerts I went to. Haken was the last one I did that for.
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They're working on the 1TB iPod.
https://www.iflash.xyz/teaser-the-1tb-ipod/ (https://www.iflash.xyz/teaser-the-1tb-ipod/)
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I think some of you have missed the point of the original post (or I didn't explain properly). I'm an album guy too. 80% of my music listening is albums, in full (no skipping ;)). I only really listen to my favourite songs on shuffle when I'm getting pumped for a night out, walking to work or sometimes when I'm driving.
I use playlists more as a way of organising my albums so I give them a fair amount of listens. So, as I'd said, if I want to listen to an album that I discovered in 2015 (but I'm not sure what) I'll have a flick through that playlist and be like "oh yeah, Deloused in the Crematorium is great, not listened to that in a while." then listen to that album in full. I then might fancy one of my all time favourite albums so I'll look through that playlist and be like "Fuck yea, ...And Out Come the Wolves, what a corker." and I'll listen to that album in full.
I think some of you maybe getting confused and thinking because I say playlist I mean I'm listening to it on shuffle. That's not the case. As I've said, it's just my way of organising and making sure I remember to listen to a band like Agalloch (who I like but can easily neglect), for example.
With the sheer amount of music we all consume in these parts I just wondered if there are many that use playlists like me. Possibly not that many. Just wanted to clear that up.
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They're working on the 1TB iPod.
https://www.iflash.xyz/teaser-the-1tb-ipod/ (https://www.iflash.xyz/teaser-the-1tb-ipod/)
Geez, couldn't they do a 2TB iPod already??
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They're working on the 1TB iPod.
https://www.iflash.xyz/teaser-the-1tb-ipod/ (https://www.iflash.xyz/teaser-the-1tb-ipod/)
Geez, couldn't they do a 2TB iPod already??
I think they would have to abandon the whole iPod structure to do that. A brand new device would need to be created, and unfortunately, I don't think the demand is there yet, but who knows.
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They're working on the 1TB iPod.
https://www.iflash.xyz/teaser-the-1tb-ipod/ (https://www.iflash.xyz/teaser-the-1tb-ipod/)
Geez, couldn't they do a 2TB iPod already??
I think they would have to abandon the whole iPod structure to do that. A brand new device would need to be created, and unfortunately, I don't think the demand is there yet, but who knows.
I'd be all about 2TB iPods.
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Well wait, that's not a legit ipod right? Just someone who mods them? Or am I reading this wrong?
My 64GB microsd card does the job for my phone. I'll eventually upgrade to a 128GB card, but I don't need it yet.
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I mean I'd be happy if they just started producing 160gb ones again to be honest. If I wanted all my mp3s to be lossless then a TB iPod might be useful but I can't see that happening. I'm just glad they are still planning to make iPods though :biggrin:
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That article was from Jan 2015. I don't imagine Apple are bothering seeing as they've scrapped the iPod Classic entirely.
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That article was from Jan 2015. I don't imagine Apple are bothering seeing as they've scrapped the iPod Classic entirely.
:censored :tdwn
This does make me sad. Didn't they scrap them quietly with no press statement, like they just disappeared from their website? I heard it was because of wanting to push people towards using their Apple Music streaming service, which would make them more money.
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I thought it was a guy who was planning to mod them. I didn't see the date though :sad:
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That article was from Jan 2015. I don't imagine Apple are bothering seeing as they've scrapped the iPod Classic entirely.
:censored :tdwn
This does make me sad. Didn't they scrap them quietly with no press statement, like they just disappeared from their website? I heard it was because of wanting to push people towards using their Apple Music streaming service, which would make them more money.
Not sure if it was that specifically. My understanding was that so many people now use streaming or just use their phones that the market for standalone music players is a lot less than it was. Still big enough for other firms to keep producing them, but that's not really Apple's business model (especially as the Classic's were better made than basically everything else they produce and so people didn't need to buy a new one every couple of years).
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I think iPods will come back since people's music collections only keep getting bigger, since the market is so saturated. I predict within 5 years the iPod is back, it's a great marketing tool, maybe have a limited release of 1TB ipods. I don't see moving to streaming as progression, just another way to consume music. It's nice to have your own music, to do with it what you please, and not have to worry about buffering and all that comes with streaming and using up data/battery.
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I disagree.
You'll just see phones increase in size as they have been. There is little to no need for a dedicated music player these days.
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Scrapping of the iPod Classic has left me with a bit of a problem. I have a modified classic that holds 240 gb (actually a little less than that). I'm at about 190 gbs now, so I have enough, but obviously not for the long term. Unfortunately, uber music geeks such as ourselves are not Apple's target market. :lol
I think some of you have missed the point of the original post (or I didn't explain properly). I'm an album guy too. 80% of my music listening is albums, in full (no skipping ;)). I only really listen to my favourite songs on shuffle when I'm getting pumped for a night out, walking to work or sometimes when I'm driving.
I use playlists more as a way of organising my albums so I give them a fair amount of listens. So, as I'd said, if I want to listen to an album that I discovered in 2015 (but I'm not sure what) I'll have a flick through that playlist and be like "oh yeah, Deloused in the Crematorium is great, not listened to that in a while." then listen to that album in full. I then might fancy one of my all time favourite albums so I'll look through that playlist and be like "Fuck yea, ...And Out Come the Wolves, what a corker." and I'll listen to that album in full.
I think some of you maybe getting confused and thinking because I say playlist I mean I'm listening to it on shuffle. That's not the case. As I've said, it's just my way of organising and making sure I remember to listen to a band like Agalloch (who I like but can easily neglect), for example.
With the sheer amount of music we all consume in these parts I just wondered if there are many that use playlists like me. Possibly not that many. Just wanted to clear that up.
Yeah, I misunderstood. So to sum it up, you use playlists of full records so that you don't forget what came out when, so you can remember to listen to them all properly. Is that right?
If I now understand correctly, I'm not really sure that would work for me, but I could see how it could work for some others. For me, the stuff I've recently got is listed as "Recently Added" in my iTunes, so I can easily reference the newest stuff I got. But I see your point. Things that are a couple years older, you can go back and reference easier...
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I disagree.
You'll just see phones increase in size as they have been. There is little to no need for a dedicated music player these days.
Yup, I agree with you, unfortunately. I wouldn't mind everything being in one device. I would even switch to an iPhone (I am an Android guy) if there was enough space for the phone and all my tunes. But like I said above, people like most of us are not Apple's target audience. They are looking for the average music listener.
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I disagree.
You'll just see phones increase in size as they have been. There is little to no need for a dedicated music player these days.
Yup, I agree with you, unfortunately. I wouldn't mind everything being in one device. I would even switch to an iPhone (I am an Android guy) if there was enough space for the phone and all my tunes. But like I said above, people like most of us are not Apple's target audience. They are looking for the average music listener.
Yea, the ipod because a small market for Apple and just not worth their money to continue that product. I know people loved them so it sucks, but it makes sense from a business perspective. And that's what I love about my android is the microsd port. I can incease my music space without needing a new phone. Samsung took that out of the S6 and it pissed enough people off to bring it back in the S7. I hope that it stays in future phones as well.
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I disagree.
You'll just see phones increase in size as they have been. There is little to no need for a dedicated music player these days.
You might be right. But for now, I'm still better off with my 160gb ipod and my phone, how big do the phones get nowadays?
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I disagree.
You'll just see phones increase in size as they have been. There is little to no need for a dedicated music player these days.
You might be right. But for now, I'm still better off with my 160gb ipod and my phone, how big do the phones get nowadays?
The largest iphone is 256GB. Largest Samsung is 128 with expandable SD slot. And they will get bigger as storage becomes cheaper which we've seen from the first smart phones.
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Yeah, I misunderstood. So to sum it up, you use playlists of full records so that you don't forget what came out when, so you can remember to listen to them all properly. Is that right?
If I now understand correctly, I'm not really sure that would work for me, but I could see how it could work for some others. For me, the stuff I've recently got is listed as "Recently Added" in my iTunes, so I can easily reference the newest stuff I got. But I see your point. Things that are a couple years older, you can go back and reference easier...
Yea, basically. The thing is that with nearly 19,000 songs on my iPod it can be a bit overwhelming when trying to decide what to listen to. In the past I found myself just listening to my go to bands (which is fine) but not listening to loads of great stuff that I had. I found by putting the music into more bite size chunks (playlists) I can divide my time between my music in a better way. This is only something I've had to start doing in the last 3-4 years or so. It's just because I've discovered so much new music in those years and my library has grown massively.