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He plays drums with his garage door open* for at least an hour every time and longer than 2 hours some days. He was doing this at least 4-5 days a week until I approached him politely about it over a week ago. Then yesterday he was right back at it so I called the cops. He still did it for an hour after that call so here are some possibilities as to what happened:
1. Cops showed up, he bullshitted them, and continued doing so anyway after they left (most likely, since I thought I heard the "whoop" of when a siren is turned on for a fraction of a second to get someone's attention about 20-30 minutes after I'd called the cops.)
2. The cops never even went out there.
3. The cops took an hour to get there and he stopped for the day at that point.
He's back at it again today and we're already 30 minutes in. I'm sick of this shit. How do I resolve this if the cops won't do anything or let him off the hook as long as he only stops while they're there and then resumes his playing right afterward?
*This wasn't originally bolded, underlined, red-texted, and in 18-point font, but some people's replies seem to be overlooking this since it makes it clear how easily this situation could be resolved if the jackass would just close his fucking door. I'm not trying to keep him from playing his drums. They're just loud as fuck and the open garage door directly faces the direction of my house. I hope this has clarified everything adequately.
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Stick a knife in his thigh and twist it so the wound doesn't close.
Also accidentally spill a whole tub of salt in there.
Or explain the entire situation to the police again. Say he stops as soon as they arrive and starts again as soon as they leave.
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I say fight noise with noise, but that might just result in the neighbor calling the cops on you.
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Is this during waking hours? Sorry to sound harsh, but a guy playing drums in his garage for 1-2 hours per day 4-5 days per week is not him being an asshole. I have neighbors who are out doing god knows what with power tools every weekend, and other neighbors who blast music. This is all just comes with being a member of a civilization. If you really must have silence during the day at some point, like you have an event going on at your house, just walk over and ask him politely to hold off drumming for the day. Maybe bring a six pack with you.
If I were you, I'd buy myself a bass and an amp and head over for some jamming. Alternatively, you can try and move to one of those neighborhoods where no one's allowed to do anything, but as far as I know most of those are for people 55+ :lol
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I say fight noise with noise, but that might just result in the neighbor calling the cops on you.
Go over and play with him? Then crank up your volume and solo over him? :metal
Honestly, I have been on the other end of this once, and I did things respectfully afterwards. So I don't know the best way to handle it. I generally feel meeting indifference or not caring with anger doesn't end well. :-\
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Is this during waking hours? Sorry to sound harsh, but a guy playing drums in his garage for 1-2 hours per day 4-5 days per week is not him being an asshole. I have neighbors who are out doing god knows what with power tools every weekend, and other neighbors who blast music. This is all just comes with being a member of a civilization. If you really must have silence during the day at some point, like you have an event going on at your house, just walk over and ask him politely to hold off drumming for the day. Maybe bring a six pack with you.
If I were you, I'd buy myself a bass and an amp and head over for some jamming. Alternatively, you can try and move to one of those neighborhoods where no one's allowed to do anything, but as far as I know most of those are for people 55+ :lol
It's drums which are significantly louder than almost any other thing that can generate noise pollution. Also, they're played for like ten minutes straight with no stopping whatsoever during certain stretches of these sessions. Power tools are usually used in spots here and there with frequent breaks in between while their user preps other aspects of their work.
Also, you're being daft if you think my not wanting to hear loud-ass drums that sound almost as obnoxious as someone visiting knocking at my door for an hour or two straight several times a week with me wanting complete silence. Your tone comes across as you thinking I have unreasonable expectations and that's fine, think whatever makes you happy, but don't twist my words.
To the other repliers, unfortunately this isn't some cool, personable amateur musician. It's some shitcunt inbred redneck whom thinks anything that alters his usual way of doing things is an attack on his personal freedom if our brief talk is anything to go on. I approached him nearly apologetically and his smug demeanor and sense of entitlement said everything it needed to about how he felt about the situation.
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This is why I am never getting acoustic drums. They are just too damn loud and I know I am pissing off the neighbors. I'm sticking with an electronic set.
That whole situation sucks.
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A lot of us have similar issues. Depending on where you live, and the appropriate ordinances, there ARE rules regarding decibel level of outside noise. It is obviously higher during the day, but in if you live in a strictly residential neighborhood, there typically are time limits.
For example, I live under county ordinances, as I live in an unincorporated area outside of city limits. When I first moved in (we are one of two centered houses on a cul-de-sac), things were fine for a while. No real noise problems except for barking dogs. I looked up the appropriate statutes, spoke to the owner, understood their issue, but pointed out the dog was by my bedroom window (less than 10 feet away, even with a fence it doesn't matter). They moved the dog to the other side of the house, and set up a fenced in runner so the dog could be over there. That worked out better.
But over the years, the house sold, and the dude who bought it gutted the entire place before actually moving in. He decided, in his stupidity, that it was OK to use power tools and make a ton of noise in this house and outside on the patio in his back yard after he got off of work at 730, and work until midnight, 1 a.m. After saying something a couple of times, I looked up county ordinances, and it says very clearly, no power tools, no noise over XX decibels past 7:30 p.m. (Note: I did understand his issue -- he works, trying to get house done, I get it -- but at the time, I had an infant whose bedroom was right next to where he was working). I went outside one night at 11:30, confronted him (back yard, he was on the patio using a power saw). He told me to go fuck off. So I printed out the code ordinances. Duct taped them (highlighted) to his door, along with a note that the cops had been called, and went home. The noise stopped.
The next day was Friday. That night, I got home, and I walked over there, where his wife was. He came out, sheepishly with her, and said they don't want any issues, we're neighbors, and they were sorry. but they do need to work on the house. So I told him I get it, but if you are going to run power tools, you either have to do it inside so it doesn't wake us up, or do it during the daytime. He didn't like it, took him longer to get his house done, but he complied.
Now, six years later, we're on good terms. He still is a moron (cuts his lawn in the dark -- idiot), but he means well. He's just not the sharpest tool in the shed. But he tries hard to be a good neighbor, and I reciprocate.
Moral of this long ass story is -- sometimes you gotta call people out on the carpet and stay on em until they realize they aren't going to "win." If this dude has a drum set, and plays it in the daytime, that's his business unless the decibel level is higher than what's permitted where you live. If it is, look up those code sections, print them out, highlight them, and hammer on him. If he refused to comply, continually call the cops (they make a record each time you call). Ultimately, you'll win if you stay on it. It sucks, but that is what this world is nowadays -- people are assholes who think they can do whatever they want whenever they want it. And that simply isn't true.
Sorry you have to deal with it man. But you're not alone. You just gotta step up your game to get it to stop.
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Put a whoopee cushion on his drum stool.
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Also, you're being daft if you think my not wanting to hear loud-ass drums that sound almost as obnoxious as someone visiting knocking at my door for an hour or two straight several times a week with me wanting complete silence. Your tone comes across as you thinking I have unreasonable expectations and that's fine, think whatever makes you happy, but don't twist my words.
Your post seems to imply that he drums for (1) hour per day in his open garage, during the day time, 4 to 5 days per week.
Unless I've misinterpreted that, I would say yes, you are being absolutely unreasonable.
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It's extremely loud and I don't even live on the same block as him so I can only imagine what his neighbors are dealing with. Also, he can close the fucking door and still play and not disturb others. Why is that such a horrible alternative?
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Also, I said at least an hour and even more than 2 hours at times so you're clearly not even reading the posts and just trying to cherry pick to make your argument appear stronger than it actually is. Do me a favor and actually post something constructive relating to the situation cuz as of now you're clearly just trying to get a rise.
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And yeah Black_Floyd, fair reassertion of your point. I haven't been able to play my amped up stuff in a personal basement. So when cranking was an option, it was things such as in a closed house, amp pointed away, with a blanket over it and so on. With a garage door open on the first floor and not behind walls, he is trying to show off and impress people who probably only hear racket and not music.
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He's just a textbook asshole redneck. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
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He should close his garage door. Otherwise, I don't see a huge problem here. Suck though.
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Exactly. Closing the door does nothing to deprive his fun and it eliminates the noise. How any other option could be seen as superior is lunacy.
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Lighten up, Francis. Even if I didn't agree with him (and I think he's dead on here) Skeever's being perfectly reasonable. I often listen to a concert pretty loud while cleaning, or watch a movie full of explosions and bass rumble. I also make sure that come evening time I'm a quiet, good neighbor. If he's doing this during daytime hours, presumably he's trying to be civilized. If he's doing it in the evening then there's actually a problem, but I don't gather that's the case.
Last weekend the folks behind me had a birthday party for one of their little crotch-critters. They had a Michael Jackson impersonator come out and set up in the courtyard between us. You could have heard him from half a mile away (and I was <50'), and he smoked up the entire neighborhood. I hate Michael Jackson with a passion, but it was 4 in the afternoon and I respect their right to make a little noise if it's done responsibly.
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What part of "his garage door is open" do you not understand? He's fully capable of enjoying this activity in a way that takes ZERO of his enjoyment away while not fucking with his neighbors. You and Skeever just sound like y'all are bad neighbors like this guy and think anything that causes y'all to have to not do things 100% your way is some kind of tyrannical infringement on your freedom.
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Also, do you really think loud movies in a closed house are gonna travel as far as the sound of drums in an open garage facing the complainant's house?
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No. I can't speak for Skeever but I think of myself as a very good neighbor who adjusts his noise level for reasonableness per the time of day and allows others to do the same. I learned that from a bass player that used to live above me. At 1800 he shut his amp off even if he was in the middle of a song. I found that quite respectful and have tried to follow his methods.
And I don't draw a distinction between playing drums and watching a loud movie. If I'm making enough noise for others to notice and potentially detract from what they're doing then I'm an imposition. I just think that reasonable people can accept that some noise is acceptable during the day, and reasonable people will keep their noise down in the morning/evening.
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Yeah, but in case you ignored my posts, this happens the majority of days for a minimum of an hour and more likely than not for two or more hours and it's fucking impossible to ignore even while watching TV, playing video games, or doing any other activity that would usually drown out noise pollution. Also, you still haven't told me why he shouldn't just close his garage door. Seriously, how doesn't that solve the problem for all parties involved?
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The only reason he leaves the door open is to be a cunt.
He knows he is a cunt.
Some people only. ONLY do things to annoy others or to be a nuisance.
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Your post seems to imply that he drums for (1) hour per day in his open garage, during the day time, 4 to 5 days per week.
Unless I've misinterpreted that, I would say yes, you are being absolutely unreasonable.
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This isn't someone mowing their yard at 6 am on a Saturday; this is someone beating the heck out of drums, which are louder than just about anything you can imagine a neighbor doing.
Yes, things and noises like this are going to happen in life, and you have to suck it sometimes and deal with it, but in this case, I am totally with b_f. There is no reason the guy can't keep his garage door closed and bang away.
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I think this thread has only proven that some people have an entitled mentality and legitimately think that someone is trying to impose an unfair level of authority over them for merely not wanting to be unreasonably disturbed. I'd love to see how these people would react if they were getting regularly disturbed to the extent necessary for them to feel as exasperated as the people they're likely exasperating with their rudeness.
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Pay my transportation and I will shit on his lawn.
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I won't only pay your transportation. I'll wipe your ass when you're done and have an IPA and a hot Pop Tart™ waiting for you.
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Aim the speakers at him and have a 24 loop of dubstep playing.
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I'll make his lawn great again.
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I'll make his lawn great again.
Russian Lawn Company. AMIRITE?!
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Do you have other neighbors?
Talk to them. A bunch of annoyed people can do more than one.
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Accidental post
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I think this thread has only proven that some people have an entitled mentality and legitimately think that someone is trying to impose an unfair level of authority over them for merely not wanting to be unreasonably disturbed. I'd love to see how these people would react if they were getting regularly disturbed to the extent necessary for them to feel as exasperated as the people they're likely exasperating with their rudeness.
What it's proven is that you get butt-hurt when people don't share your opinion. But whatever. If you only want to hear things that support you, here goes:
Call the police every single time it happens until they get tired of each other. And they will. Quickly.
Get online and fine the appropriate ordinances, both city and county, and call the code inspector out. They're notorious hardasses. Make sure your house is spotless before doing so as you'll probably be next.
Find out if there's an HOA. They're worse than code inspectors.
Man up and tell him the next time he bothers you you'll shove his floor tom up his sorry ass. Legs first.
Get with all of the other neighbors, as someone else suggested, and gang up on him.
Move someplace 1 mile from the nearest living soul. Or move to an old-folks home where the loudest thing you'll hear are seniors awkwardly fucking.
Ask him if he can keep it to a specific time each day so you can plan accordingly. I'm sure you leave the house at some point each day.
I can probably dream up plenty more ideas, but I have this sneaking suspicion you don't actually want advice.
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I think this thread has only proven that some people have an entitled mentality and legitimately think that someone is trying to impose an unfair level of authority over them for merely not wanting to be unreasonably disturbed. I'd love to see how these people would react if they were getting regularly disturbed to the extent necessary for them to feel as exasperated as the people they're likely exasperating with their rudeness.
I stayed out of it until this. They don't agree with you. So what? Doesn't mean anyone has an "entitled" mentality, just a different way of looking at things And believe me, I'm the first friggin' person to lambaste someone for being entitled. Are they rude? Perhaps. But there are reasons why that door closed could change the game. I remember being in a band and playing in my basement, and the echo from the concrete walls was excruciating at times. Heat. Noise in the house (though you don't want to hear that, I can imagine). I'm sort of with el Barto; there is a time and a place. You don't have a right to never be disturbed. That he MIGHT be able to placate you doesn't mean it's the same experience for him.
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My hunch is that he doesn't shut the garage door because all he'll hear is ringing and he won't hear that for long because he'll be deaf in an hour or so.
And anecdote time. Tommy Aldridge's bad, bad self lived in Dallas for a short period of time, and he used to do the exact same thing. It wasn't my neighborhood, sadly, but he was friendly and the neighborhood kids would gather around and watch him practice. Really sorry I missed that. I would have dug it (big fan here).
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I can probably dream up plenty more ideas, but I have this sneaking suspicion you don't actually want advice.
Nope. He's asking for advice but everyone is just being " man up and deal with it & stop being a bitch "
Essentially.
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I can probably dream up plenty more ideas, but I have this sneaking suspicion you don't actually want advice.
Nope. He's asking for advice but everyone is just being " man up and deal with it & stop being a bitch "
Essentially.
Nah. A couple of us have told him that he doesn't get to live in world that conforms to his own personal standards, and explained our take on the current situation. A few people have offered up p[practical suggestions like stabbing him the thigh and shitting on his lawn. I believe that latter is what he's actually interested in.
But, since maybe I'm wrong and he's not just wanting to vent, here's another:
Next time you're at a store that employs off-duty cops for security, ask them what to do. I've done that when I wasn't sure how to handle it and two of the three cops I spoke with were quite willing to offer up advice.
And if that cop suggests manning up and dealing with it, be certain to call him a self-entitled prick. :lol
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FYI, there's things like these:
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/remo-muff-l-ring-control/442922000447076?cntry=us&source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CjwKEAiA6OnFBRDcgt7YmPKI33ESJACJoTJYYBq5oOVX2PKC085QTZRzlvLevZRgTETZe295el1X4BoCxmrw_wcB&kwid=productads-adid^156717928496-device^t-plaid^265306775450-sku^442922000447076@ADL4MF-adType^PLA
Doesn't reduce the joy of playing, but keeps the volume at bay.
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Do you have other neighbors?
Talk to them. A bunch of annoyed people can do more than one.
I think this is the play to make. There are strengths in numbers and, as long as no one gets hurt or goes to the hospital, rallying neighbors that feels the same way that you do will help a lot to solve this issue.
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Is he any good?
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Is he any good?
He moved from Denmark and gave up a promising tennis career.
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I'd rent a tractor trailer. Put a giant THIS on the side...
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17017045_1008242029277191_4640941859996011346_o.jpg?oh=5ce1ea482a20318abbccb4d911ad58cc&oe=59322B62)
...and park the fucker right in front of his house!
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My hunch is that he doesn't shut the garage door because all he'll hear is ringing and he won't hear that for long because he'll be deaf in an hour or so.
And anecdote time. Tommy Aldridge's bad, bad self lived in Dallas for a short period of time, and he used to do the exact same thing. It wasn't my neighborhood, sadly, but he was friendly and the neighborhood kids would gather around and watch him practice. Really sorry I missed that. I would have dug it (big fan here).
You clearly have never played with a drummer or are exaggerating to prove a failing point. I used to practice with a drummer in an enclosed space once or twice a week and that enclosure was literally a third of the size of the garage in question and my hearing is 100% fine (I'm not sure how familiar you are with New Orleans architecture but many houses have a small staircase leading to a raised porch that's maybe 4-5' above ground in order to keep the house and its contents out of the way of harmful flood waters. On one of the back corners of the house it basically looked like a chunk was missing under the house cuz there was only a post supporting that corner of the house and my drummer friend walled it off to where it made a tiny room about 8'x10' with a ceiling about 5'6". I literally had to slouch with my feet about shoulders' width to keep my head clear of the ceiling and I'm only 5'10".) It's funny how much you wanna look out for redneck drummer's hearing because you're readily admitting his drums are too loud but wanna call me thin-skinned for not wanting to deal with the same thing.
You're clearly just hanging around in this thread to make dickish comments and get the last word but I'm sure I haven't heard the last of you in here either.
A couple of us have told him that he doesn't get to live in world that conforms to his own personal standards
Shit like this is pretty clearly proving you're biased the way you're equating not wanting to be disturbed for literally 8-12 hours every single week by a completely avoidable noise (closing the garage door) with me having a control issue.
If you have any qualms with this, just PM me. This thread is for actual advice on solving this issue. not piss matching.
Is he any good?
Not in the least. Plays the same beginner rudiments on loop for as long as ten minutes straight without a single stop in between during some stretches of these at-least-one-hour sessions.
Is he any good?
He moved from Denmark and gave up a promising tennis career.
:rollin
I'd rent a tractor trailer. Put a giant THIS on the side...
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...and park the fucker right in front of his house!
Amazing :rollin
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Josh, I think there are only laws with time limits. You may be out of luck if he is playing during the day and early evening. I would find out when the sound laws are for your town.
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If I plugged in my amp on my front yard and cranked it to max volume I'm sure something would occur fairly soon. It ain't like sunlight makes any degree of noise disturbance justifiable to the law.
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Many good suggestions here, including first asking closer neighbors how they feel about it. Reality is, if they are fine with it, you will unlikely get any traction from the cops as they will just write you off as "that guy".
But, I would also suggest maybe renting a dB meter and see whether the guy actually violates city law. If he does, film a video when he's playing, showing the dB meter in the video. That's incontrovertible evidence then.
EDIT: Just to point this out, Android/iPhone "volume meter" apps do not count. They essentially just make up numbers. You need an actual sound meter.
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You're clearly just hanging around in this thread to make dickish comments and get the last word but I'm sure I haven't heard the last of you in here either.
A couple of us have told him that he doesn't get to live in world that conforms to his own personal standards
Shit like this is pretty clearly proving you're biased the way you're equating not wanting to be disturbed for literally 8-12 hours every single week by a completely avoidable noise (closing the garage door) with me having a control issue.
If you have any qualms with this, just PM me. This thread is for actual advice on solving this issue. not piss matching.
Honestly, Josh, defending your bad-drumming neighbor and winning an argument with you are two things I care absolutely nothing about. I'm on vacation. I chimed in because you kind of dumped on somebody for suggesting that the problem might be yours, and I thought it was uncool. That's about it. I've given you many suggestions. Some comical. Some pretty good. All better than "stab him in the thigh," so I really don't have anything further to contribute.
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Many good suggestions here, including first asking closer neighbors how they feel about it. Reality is, if they are fine with it, you will unlikely get any traction from the cops as they will just write you off as "that guy".
But, I would also suggest maybe renting a dB meter and see whether the guy actually violates city law. If he does, film a video when he's playing, showing the dB meter in the video. That's incontrovertible evidence then.
EDIT: Just to point this out, Android/iPhone "volume meter" apps do not count. They essentially just make up numbers. You need an actual sound meter.
Very good suggestion but I probably can't do that unfortunately. My backyard shares a fence with his across-the-street neighbor so I'd have to film across a stranger's property which may be considered illegal.
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Why would that be illegal? All you need it 20 seconds of video, where you can hear the drums, and you can see the dB meter.
On a side note, this definitely calls for a short video. I want to hear it!!
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Two links that should be of particular interest to you:
https://www.noisefree.org/cityord/new-orleans.pdf
https://www.zillow.com/new-orleans-la/
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Why would that be illegal? All you need it 20 seconds of video, where you can hear the drums, and you can see the dB meter.
On a side note, this definitely calls for a short video. I want to hear it!!
My hunch is that it falls within the city ordinance for daylight hours. It'd have to be an average of 60dB or a peak of 70. If he's allowed to measure it at the fence line then he might have a case, but I seriously doubt he's going to get that indoors and that's probably what they're after.
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Oops! It'd help if I'd mentioned I live in Orange Park, FL just outside of Jacksonville now. Sorry for the lack of clarity and thanks a bunch Bartholomew :tup
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Your post seems to imply that he drums for (1) hour per day in his open garage, during the day time, 4 to 5 days per week.
Unless I've misinterpreted that, I would say yes, you are being absolutely unreasonable.
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This isn't someone mowing their yard at 6 am on a Saturday; this is someone beating the heck out of drums, which are louder than just about anything you can imagine a neighbor doing.
Yes, things and noises like this are going to happen in life, and you have to suck it sometimes and deal with it, but in this case, I am totally with b_f. There is no reason the guy can't keep his garage door closed and bang away.
Yeah, maybe it's just me, but I'll take someone hammering away at their drum kit from 6-7pm every night over someone mowing their lawn at 7am every Saturday morning. And trust me, I live with the latter. I don't know why anyone wants to go out and mow the grass before 9am on any Saturday, but they do. Same neighbor likes to take his (extremely yappy) dog out for a piss every night around 11pm, when I'm asleep. It invariably wakes me up. What should I do, call the cops on my neighbor because his loud dog takes a piss when I'm sleeping?
Also, I said at least an hour and even more than 2 hours at times so you're clearly not even reading the posts and just trying to cherry pick to make your argument appear stronger than it actually is. Do me a favor and actually post something constructive relating to the situation cuz as of now you're clearly just trying to get a rise.
Yeah... In my short 30 years on this Earth I've lived next door to people who are actually doing things illegal (like cooking meth), and I've lived next door to domestic abusers, and I've lived next door to people who aren't breaking the law but are just plain inconvenient, like chain smokers and heavy pot smokers. My advice to you? If the biggest adversity in your life is a guy who goes out for one hour per day (sometimes two) to beat drums in his garage, believe me when I say it could get far worse. Lighten up, and deal. If the dude were drumming from sun up and sun down, I would be more sympathetic, but I'd like to think I still live in a world where people can still play acoustic drum kits with - god forbid - their garage doors open - for one hour per night (not even every night) without some dude trying to enforce their own standards on the neighborhood. Crack open a beer, relax, and feel a little less self-conscious next time you want to do something that might slightly annoy the neighbors. Live and let live.
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To each him own Skeever. Just because you went through it and have a different tolerance to noise doesn't make you or Josh more in the right.
As a music lover I bet Josh was ok with it but over time it's grated at him. I don't think Josh will have the results he wants but it doesn't mean he is wrong feeling the way he does.
It's just not a perfect situation for both.
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Right, but unless you can buy yourself a secluded villa somewhere, these are the types of annoyances we all ought to be able to deal with. Not saying Floyd is "wrong" for feeling the way he feels, but I warrant he'd save himself a ton of heartache down the line if he just adjusted his expectations regarding his fellow man right here and now. Hell, it may turn out that he even enjoys the newfound freedom that comes with such a mentality adjustment. I say this as a pretty white collar dude who could afford live in a much "nicer" neighborhood - I'll live with the "rednecks" over the do-gooders and soccer moms any day. It seems rednecks are pretty live and let live neighbors, regardless of their political opinions (few of which I personally agree with). As it turns out, my redneck neighbors who do their own autowork in their driveways and light of fireworks in the street don't seem to mind at all that I have my guitar amp blaring for 5 hours per week or so. Anyway, I've said my peace, so I'll leave now. Didn't mean invalidate the OP's feelings, but sure, I'll admit seeing a guy on a metal forum complain about someone playing drums across the way did hit some type of nerve.
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That I understand. He needs to find the noise laws in his town and go from there.
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That I understand. He needs to find the noise laws in his town and go from there.
I agree with this. Rumbo made a great suggestion about the decibal meter too.
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Oops! It'd help if I'd mentioned I live in Orange Park, FL just outside of Jacksonville now.
Okay, this whole thing makes sense now :rollin
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Word. I used to assume that LA, MS, and AL were the collective shithole of the south but, goddamn, FL ain't goin out without a fight.
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Despite the subject of this thread, there's so much good stuff in here :lol
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I don't see why some in this thread are flaming you for this. If the drummer had some decency, he should at least close his garage door, thats not asking too much. I live in a Rural area, and when I have acoustic drums in my garage I always make sure the doors are shut. I also sound proofed my garage with insulation and sound deadening board for that reason, and my nearest neighbor is nearly 300 feet away. I'm either paranoid or courteous, probably the latter because I don't do drugs or smoke weed..
I hate sometimes when my cigarette smoking friends would come over to listen. They go outside to smoke and leave the door wide open letting cold air in without any thought. We would have to stop jamming to tell them to close the door.
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Thanks Architeuthis. That's what I've been saying all along too. I have no problem with him playing drums. It's just a miserably persistent and legitimate nuisance that ruins entire afternoons frequently plus there's a ridiculously easy compromise by him simply closing the door. How any supposedly rational adult can find that request unreasonable baffles the shit outta me. Having his door closed takes away zero of his enjoyment. If it's too hot, he can literally put cheap fans in each corner for a total cost of less than one used cymbal and they're loud enough to still easily be heard. At my old drummer friend's enclosure I spoke about in an earlier post we heard just fine over the noisy ass window unit that was no farther than six feet from any of us.
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Yeah good call on the fans to keep cool. I could see how that could raise the blood pressure listening to those unfiltered drums day after day (even if it was Neil Peart).Perhaps make some friendly suggestions along with a peace offering of a six pack of beer (even though he doesn't deserve free beer) and if that doesn't work, then break out the heavy artillary. If he's reasonable, he should work with you.
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Collect $20 from everyone on the street and buy him an electric kit.
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Collect $20 from everyone on the street and buy him an electric kit.
I hope he has 100 neighbours.
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Noise continually blows!
I have an issue with my neighbors with there lights on 24/7 on the back of the house.
LIGHTS! EVERYWHERE!
I'm talking 6 flood lights that never get shut off. Morning noon or night. And they have a string of lights all over they're pool deck that never get shut off as well.
So when I'm out enjoying a fire in my backyard its like I have an airport runway in back of my yard.
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This kinda shit is why Mrs. C. and I have both determined that we generally hate people enough that if we could move to an island, just the two of us, far away from people, we'd both be happier.
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Noise continually blows!
I have an issue with my neighbors with there lights on 24/7 on the back of the house.
LIGHTS! EVERYWHERE!
I'm talking 6 flood lights that never get shut off. Morning noon or night. And they have a string of lights all over they're pool deck that never get shut off as well.
So when I'm out enjoying a fire in my backyard its like I have an airport runway in back of my yard.
Do you have your Red Ryder BB Gun handy? Instant solution. :lol
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This kinda shit is why Mrs. C. and I have both determined that we generally hate people enough that if we could move to an island, just the two of us, far away from people, we'd both be happier.
Yes please
(https://cdn.earthporm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lonely-house-ellidaey-iceland-67.jpg)
(https://www.alux.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Most-Isolated-House-You-Have-Ever-Seen-5.jpg)
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Noise continually blows!
I have an issue with my neighbors with there lights on 24/7 on the back of the house.
LIGHTS! EVERYWHERE!
I'm talking 6 flood lights that never get shut off. Morning noon or night. And they have a string of lights all over they're pool deck that never get shut off as well.
So when I'm out enjoying a fire in my backyard its like I have an airport runway in back of my yard.
Check your local ordinances. My parents had a neighbor who kept a 100W bulb in a porch light by their back door, and the light illuminated their bedroom through the window at night. The local ordinance stated that at the fence/property line, there was a maximum limit of lumens that could cross into your neighbor's yard, and that light exceeded the maximum.
You can download a light-meter app on your smartphone and test it at the property line at night. Per the other suggestions in this thread, show the ordinance and the reading from your phone to your neighbor and see if they'll turn the lights off at night. Otherwise, handle it through the police.
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This kinda shit is why Mrs. C. and I have both determined that we generally hate people enough that if we could move to an island, just the two of us, far away from people, we'd both be happier.
Yes please
(https://cdn.earthporm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lonely-house-ellidaey-iceland-67.jpg)
(https://www.alux.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Most-Isolated-House-You-Have-Ever-Seen-5.jpg)
There should be a huge sign in that front yard that just says "Yes, f*ck you!"
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How many rock poses could you do on that island Coz? :lol
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Noise continually blows!
I have an issue with my neighbors with there lights on 24/7 on the back of the house.
LIGHTS! EVERYWHERE!
I'm talking 6 flood lights that never get shut off. Morning noon or night. And they have a string of lights all over they're pool deck that never get shut off as well.
So when I'm out enjoying a fire in my backyard its like I have an airport runway in back of my yard.
Do you have your Red Ryder BB Gun handy? Instant solution. :lol
My daughter got a really nice BB gun for Christmas. The thought enters my head almost everyday.
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How many rock poses could you do on that island Coz? :lol
All of them.
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All that land and they built it on a hill?
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Just skimmed through and maybe I missed it, but have you ever just gone over while he was playing and talked to him? As a music fan, I got to think on some level you appreciate his desire to play music (even if it sucks, we all have to start somewhere). People can be pretty easy going with a friendly conversation, "Hey I really like rock music and drumming, what are your favorite bands? Oh by the way, I live across the street and your drums are louder than my stereo so it's hard for me to enjoy my rock music, is there a way we can make this work?" Or I guess you can just keep calling the cops, local cops should keep a record of complaints and as they stock up, maybe they'd do something if it was actually against local laws after the complaints keep coming in, but if it's not against any rules, I think being friendly is the best bet.
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Fun thread. A couple of the OP's posts triggered my Schadenfreude though. :corn
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Just skimmed through and maybe I missed it, but have you ever just gone over while he was playing and talked to him? As a music fan, I got to think on some level you appreciate his desire to play music (even if it sucks, we all have to start somewhere). People can be pretty easy going with a friendly conversation, "Hey I really like rock music and drumming, what are your favorite bands? Oh by the way, I live across the street and your drums are louder than my stereo so it's hard for me to enjoy my rock music, is there a way we can make this work?" Or I guess you can just keep calling the cops, local cops should keep a record of complaints and as they stock up, maybe they'd do something if it was actually against local laws after the complaints keep coming in, but if it's not against any rules, I think being friendly is the best bet.
Scottie: "Diplomats. The best diplomat I know is a fully activated phaser bank." :lol
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Is he any good?
He moved from Denmark and gave up a promising tennis career.
So he was good for a few years and fell off the deep end?
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Srs post: Here's your local ordinance.
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Wow, somebody did their homework on that specification. L10 65 dBA leaves no questions left.
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Does that just mean 65 decibels or do the preceding letters/numbers complicate the matter? Also, which jurisdiction is that from? Cuz if I'm gonna use it, I need to make sure it'll hold up where I live which is Orange Park, FL in the Jacksonville area.
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Does that just mean 65 decibels or do the preceding letters/numbers complicate the matter? Also, which jurisdiction is that from? Cuz if I'm gonna use it, I need to make sure it'll hold up where I live which is Orange Park, FL in the Jacksonville area.
https://www.municode.com/library/fl/orange_park/codes/code_of_ordinances
https://www.municode.com/library/fl/orange_park/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=PTIITOCO_CH20EN_ARTIIINOCO_S20-56MINORE
Municipalities usually post their full ordinance list online. Noise and light violations usually are filed under nuisance - you can search the ordinance library to find what you're looking for - the ordinance cut and pasted in the post above matches the link.
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Playing with the garagedoor open is calling for trouble. If was also thinking, are we talking about something like this:
https://youtu.be/P842kq0bnOc?t=35s
or more in the line of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnv2ZhUqVRs
:P
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Does that just mean 65 decibels or do the preceding letters/numbers complicate the matter?
Had to look it up myself, but "L10" means that it's fine to violate the given limit for 10% of the time span.
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You sure about that? If I recall correctly, it had to average louder than 65dB for a 10 minute span.
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I think we're saying the same thing :lol
Say in an hour, you are allowed to exceed the 65dB for a maximum of 6 minutes.
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I think we're saying the same thing :lol
Say in an hour, you are allowed to exceed the 65dB for a maximum of 6 minutes.
Haven't you been around enough to see my standard disclaimer about Barto math? :lol
In any case, there has to be a minimum time span. Otherwise you could say that he exceeded 65dB during between 12:47,52 and 12:47,54 on one particular day. My original link from the City of New Orleans defined it thusly:
(b) L10 is the A-weighted sound pressure level which is exceeded ten percent of the time in any
measurement period. The measurement period shall not be less than ten minutes when measured
at or beyond the property boundary of the receiving land use category (example L10 is the sound
level that is exceeded a total of one minute in a ten-minute period).