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Title: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Prog Snob on February 05, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
If anyone comes across any show on either audio or video, please let me know. I'd really like to get as much of these as possible.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: CharlesPL on February 05, 2017, 11:59:36 AM
My friend will be record Prague show tomorrow, i'll be there.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Prog Snob on February 05, 2017, 12:12:00 PM
In Prague for prog. 

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: TAC on February 05, 2017, 02:53:29 PM
 :lol

Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: pcs90 on February 05, 2017, 11:01:45 PM
In Prague for prog. 

:neverusethis:
Perfect!
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wwetzels on February 06, 2017, 02:22:02 AM
Great news :-)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: TAC on February 07, 2017, 05:29:15 PM
Prague:
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=583859
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wasteland on February 07, 2017, 05:37:25 PM
Yay! Let's hope for a good sound!
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: CharlesPL on February 07, 2017, 06:26:27 PM
https://mab.to/YAjfoqsI1

Prague-same version, recorded by my friend, LtL was the best version since boston 06' really...

Prague show was amazing, James is the best..............

There will be also video version of full IaW, ACoS and Hell's Kitchen (special for me)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wwetzels on February 08, 2017, 01:30:13 AM
https://mab.to/YAjfoqsI1

Prague-same version, recorded by my friend, LtL was the best version since boston 06' really...

Prague show was amazing, James is the best..............

There will be also video version of full IaW, ACoS and Hell's Kitchen (special for me)

Will the video also be spread out to the fans?? Would be very much appreciated
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: CharlesPL on February 08, 2017, 04:17:50 AM
Yes ;)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: CharlesPL on February 08, 2017, 07:05:29 AM
LtL from Prague

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncjzd2fXvfg
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: FrostbiteZ on February 14, 2017, 03:02:14 AM
I got the whole show from Düsseldorf on video minus the first 40 seconds of Pull Me Under as I did forgot press the record button :facepalm: + a few seconds of Metropolis is missing as I had to change battery. It happens about 18:30 minutes into the video

The files can be found here
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0hkT7WnCoFgSXE0Yl92WUpBQlE?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wasteland on February 14, 2017, 04:32:17 AM
As always, the hero that every DT tour needs arrives on time!  :tup
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wwetzels on February 14, 2017, 07:04:46 AM
I got the whole show from Düsseldorf on video minus the first 40 seconds of Pull Me Under as I did forgot press the record button :facepalm: + a few seconds of Metropolis is missing as I had to change battery. It happens about 18:30 minutes into the video

The files can be found here
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0hkT7WnCoFgSXE0Yl92WUpBQlE?usp=sharing

Thx a lot. :-) :-)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: FrostbiteZ on February 17, 2017, 03:16:29 AM
As always, the hero that every DT tour needs arrives on time!  :tup
Thank you  :)

Was in Malmö last night and got the whole show. The band was amazing as usual and James sounded good, so it looks like he has gotten rid of the bug that had plagued him in the previous concerts on this tour  :)
I was surprised that there not more attendance. It looked like the inner circle and floor was almost half empty. I would have thought that since DT dont come to Denmark that many danish fans would travel to Malmö Arena, but it did not look like they did

I will upload the show to my Google Drive in the weekend  :)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Setlist Scotty on February 17, 2017, 04:48:31 AM
Thanks FrostbiteZ for all your hard work in taping and in sharing the shows with us!   :)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wwetzels on February 18, 2017, 04:15:39 AM
Thx a lot for filming Malmö gig :-)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: FrostbiteZ on February 18, 2017, 08:39:09 AM
The Malmö recordings are now up :)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0hkT7WnCoFgMEFkOHlCUmtvaXc?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Stef1 on February 18, 2017, 09:43:16 AM
Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wwetzels on February 19, 2017, 01:34:16 AM
The Malmö recordings are now up :)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0hkT7WnCoFgMEFkOHlCUmtvaXc?usp=sharing

Thx for this one :-)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wasteland on February 19, 2017, 03:27:56 PM
Thanks a lot! Bo, are you to attend any other show this year? One of the british ones, mayhems?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: FrostbiteZ on February 20, 2017, 01:37:13 AM
Thanks a lot! Bo, are you to attend any other show this year? One of the british ones, mayhems?  :biggrin:
Düsseldorf and Malmö was the only concerts for me on this tour. I have an upcoming holiday in Florida + some other concerts on my calendar, so there was no money for a DT roadtrip  :)

Update:
Just saw that they are coming to Copenhagen on the 14 of May, so I will try and get ticket for that  :)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: TAC on February 21, 2017, 08:44:33 AM
Sweden 2/17/17
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=584984&viewcomm=7473716#comm7473716


Sounds AMAZING!!
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: devieira73 on February 21, 2017, 10:13:54 AM
Wow, thanks for the heads up! I only listen to the samples, it seems almost soundboard quality :tup

Same source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZeUEYWTTTs
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ComytNLzqhs :omg: :tup :tup :tup
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Samsara on February 23, 2017, 03:02:58 PM
FrostbiteZ -- thank you for recording and sharing.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: CharlesPL on April 20, 2017, 10:35:53 AM
www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=589702&hit=1
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Prog Snob on April 20, 2017, 12:16:41 PM
Awesome, thanks!
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: FOXAN03 on April 24, 2017, 04:24:18 AM
Going to sound like an idiot but where on that site can you download the torrent file? cant see a link....
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Prog Snob on April 24, 2017, 04:56:53 AM
Did you register first?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: FOXAN03 on April 24, 2017, 01:49:50 PM
Did you register first?

Yep I'm logged in but where do you click to download the torrent file? the .Torrent file on the page is not clickable just text....


Edit.. Turns out you have to fucking upgrade to download .Torrents .. ugh...
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Prog Snob on April 26, 2017, 03:36:20 AM
Oh, right. I forgot about that.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: FOXAN03 on May 02, 2017, 02:46:09 AM
Has anyone seen a bootleg for the London Concert anywhere?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Setlist Scotty on May 02, 2017, 02:29:33 PM
Has anyone seen a bootleg for the London Concert anywhere?
Probably can find footage on YouTube, but I surprisingly haven't seen many shows from this tour on the normal bootlegging sites, and London is just one of the many that hasn't surfaced.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: krands85 on May 02, 2017, 02:57:25 PM
I was surprised (and a bit disappointed) that I could only find FOUR clips from the Glasgow show on Youtube.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Robo4900 on May 02, 2017, 07:58:52 PM
I recorded a couple of songs on my phone(1080p/60fps) from the second set of the London show.

I already planned on uploading them to YouTube, but I haven't got around to it yet. I can hurry up on that if you like?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Prog Snob on May 02, 2017, 08:09:18 PM
Has anyone seen a bootleg for the London Concert anywhere?
Probably can find footage on YouTube, but I surprisingly haven't seen many shows from this tour on the normal bootlegging sites, and London is just one of the many that hasn't surfaced.

I attribute it to the lack of rotating setlists.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: FOXAN03 on May 05, 2017, 05:43:12 AM
That's fair enough yes I've found Youtube clips but not the full set anywhere, would be a nice memento but no problem :)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: FrostbiteZ on May 16, 2017, 03:25:32 AM
Here are my videos from Copenhagen :)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0hkT7WnCoFgZk1MdmdDQmlVMXc?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wasteland on May 16, 2017, 04:04:31 AM
Yes! Thanks again, you heroic person  :metal
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: wwetzels on May 16, 2017, 06:55:53 AM
Thanks for Copenhagen files
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: dodido253 on May 18, 2017, 02:36:50 PM
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BydcxCX08dtOMndQZjRpZk9WdHM
Hey.. that's all the footage that I have from the Tilburg show at 25.04.2017
I was at the front row.. the sound at venue was AMAZING!
Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: JohnLocke on July 31, 2017, 08:48:00 AM
Hi Everyone,

I would love to have the full live videos, but am having a hard time getting them from GoogleDrive due to the sheer size and time it takes. Is there any torrents available (other than on DIME) for these shows (Dusseldorf or Malmo)?

John
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on November 17, 2017, 04:33:25 PM
Any leads on a boot from the Boston show?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: TAC on November 17, 2017, 06:23:35 PM
Any leads on a boot from the Boston show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9UW42ijaPY
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on November 18, 2017, 12:35:30 AM
Tim to the rescue! Thanks bud :)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: TAC on November 23, 2017, 06:19:16 AM
Here you go, Kev.

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=606768


Sounds great too!
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: JohnLocke on November 28, 2017, 07:23:38 AM
Here you go, Kev.

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=606768


Sounds great too!

I'm trying to get this from DIME without any luck. Seems all the seeders are asleep or off line....guess I will keep trying, as I was at this show and want this very badly. Just hoping others will come on and help get this rolling....
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: TAC on November 28, 2017, 07:30:16 AM
I'm seeding it. I haven't deleted it yet from my uTorrent.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: JohnLocke on November 28, 2017, 09:50:52 AM
I'm seeding it. I haven't deleted it yet from my uTorrent.

I utilize Tixati for this, and have put in the info hash, and for some reason it isn't working. Not sure what else to do about this. Wish this could be put on Pirate Bay....would make my life a lot easier.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Setlist Scotty on November 28, 2017, 11:20:57 AM
I'm seeding it. I haven't deleted it yet from my uTorrent.

I utilize Tixati for this, and have put in the info hash, and for some reason it isn't working. Not sure what else to do about this. Wish this could be put on Pirate Bay....would make my life a lot easier.
I'm seeding too. You might wanna consider switching to a different BitTorrent client. Here's a list of the ones that dimeadozen recommends using for their website:
http://wiki.dimeadozen.org/index.php/DimeFAQ:Frequently_Asked_Questions#clients
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: JohnLocke on December 04, 2017, 10:44:38 AM
I'm seeding it. I haven't deleted it yet from my uTorrent.

I utilize Tixati for this, and have put in the info hash, and for some reason it isn't working. Not sure what else to do about this. Wish this could be put on Pirate Bay....would make my life a lot easier.
I'm seeding too. You might wanna consider switching to a different BitTorrent client. Here's a list of the ones that dimeadozen recommends using for their website:
http://wiki.dimeadozen.org/index.php/DimeFAQ:Frequently_Asked_Questions#clients

Found this same file as a RAR on another website, so I'm getting it that way. Much easier than downloading other torrent clients.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Setlist Scotty on December 04, 2017, 12:38:22 PM
I'm seeding it. I haven't deleted it yet from my uTorrent.

I utilize Tixati for this, and have put in the info hash, and for some reason it isn't working. Not sure what else to do about this. Wish this could be put on Pirate Bay....would make my life a lot easier.
I'm seeding too. You might wanna consider switching to a different BitTorrent client. Here's a list of the ones that dimeadozen recommends using for their website:
http://wiki.dimeadozen.org/index.php/DimeFAQ:Frequently_Asked_Questions#clients

Found this same file as a RAR on another website, so I'm getting it that way. Much easier than downloading other torrent clients.
Whatever works for you!  :tup  That said, you still might consider getting another torrent client just for future downloads from dimeadozen.  :)
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Robo4900 on February 09, 2018, 03:59:43 PM
So, I've been a little too busy to keep track... Anyone know what the best recording of Don't Look Past Me from this tour is?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: MinistroRaven on February 10, 2018, 05:49:18 PM
~edit~
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Nick on February 16, 2018, 12:04:56 PM
Ministro, we're putting a temporary hold on recordings from that show until any future plans for it are concrete.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: MinistroRaven on February 16, 2018, 12:10:18 PM
Ministro, we're putting a temporary hold on recordings from that show until any future plans for it are concrete.

Perfecto
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Robo4900 on April 10, 2018, 09:51:16 AM
Ministro, we're putting a temporary hold on recordings from that show until any future plans for it are concrete.
Which show?

I thought the one to be avoided sharing was the one from the Budokan from September?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: thunderdog10 on April 11, 2018, 01:18:02 PM
any why put a hold on it when it clearly is not being released officially
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: MinistroRaven on April 27, 2018, 04:51:56 PM
Ministro, we're putting a temporary hold on recordings from that show until any future plans for it are concrete.
Which show?

I thought the one to be avoided sharing was the one from the Budokan from September?

That one
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: JohnLocke on June 12, 2018, 05:57:26 AM
As a huge fan of the band, I don't want to sound like others who I have met, but....

When Portnoy was in the band, we received updates and information that allowed us to get excited about new releases or products that band was putting out. However, with this current line-up, the lack of information on releases has been shoddy at best.

Having seen the band on this tour, I was psyched when the information started rolling about "Back To Budokan"....but then the information stopped coming, and there has been that "hold" on sharing the concert from September.

So now, here it is June, and there has been no further information, and part of me would love to think that the release of BTB is being halted due to a label change, but why wouldn't the band share that information?

As someone who has spent thousands of dollars on DT products (I have bought the whole catalog on vinyl, DVD, Blu-Ray, CD, and Digital Formats), this would have been another purchase for me. Instead, I have tried to find anyone willing to share a copy from the Japanese Broadcast, but all that has happened is hearing "No...we have to wait to see what the band says."

Well, I think it sucks waiting around, and frankly, I think DT need to get off their asses and share information....why? Because if it wasn't for the fans, they wouldn't have a band or product to sell. I think staying silent is a terrible way to treat those who support your career.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: noxon on June 17, 2018, 06:32:50 AM
Problem is, all the information you heard were never official! DT never announced they were doing a live release. DT never intended for the budokan show to be anything more than a TV special - something they've done MANY times before for TV-stations (and also festivals), including an earlier release by the same TV channel in Japan (wowow). The information people gathered were speculations and drawing conclusions from non-official resources (such as Richard Chycki stating he was finishing the mix).

So there's no "halting" because of label change. It's quite simply just that they've never intended for it to be released. I have strongly suggested to DT (JP and JR in person, management by mail) that they should consider doing something more with the release, but so far I know nothing more than you guys do.

So your assessment that they're "staying silent" - well, when there's no product being planned to release, how can you speak about it? DT only ever said "TV broadcast".
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: JohnLocke on June 18, 2018, 05:26:51 AM
Problem is, all the information you heard were never official! DT never announced they were doing a live release. DT never intended for the budokan show to be anything more than a TV special - something they've done MANY times before for TV-stations (and also festivals), including an earlier release by the same TV channel in Japan (wowow). The information people gathered were speculations and drawing conclusions from non-official resources (such as Richard Chycki stating he was finishing the mix).

So there's no "halting" because of label change. It's quite simply just that they've never intended for it to be released. I have strongly suggested to DT (JP and JR in person, management by mail) that they should consider doing something more with the release, but so far I know nothing more than you guys do.

So your assessment that they're "staying silent" - well, when there's no product being planned to release, how can you speak about it? DT only ever said "TV broadcast".

Thanks for the info....but if you look at the previous posts on this thread, it is made to seem as if it is not possible to share that Japanese Show....because there is some type of idea that there is going to be an official release.

At some point, I hope someone who has the full show will be willing to share it.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: noxon on June 19, 2018, 12:13:30 AM
Yes, and that came about because I insisted to JP that they should consider releasing it.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Robo4900 on June 21, 2018, 03:09:52 PM
So, to be clear, Don't Look Past Me was not played at the Budokan show, correct?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: cramx3 on June 21, 2018, 03:30:44 PM
So, to be clear, Don't Look Past Me was not played at the Budokan show, correct?

Correct, it was played on some dates on the NA leg of the tour after this show.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Robo4900 on June 22, 2018, 02:53:31 PM
So, to be clear, Don't Look Past Me was not played at the Budokan show, correct?

Correct, it was played on some dates on the NA leg of the tour after this show.
Right, thought so.

So, the question is, which bootlegs containing it are the best ones?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: dreamrafa on June 28, 2018, 01:19:08 PM
So now that its clear that the japan show wont be officially released, anyone care to share?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: cramx3 on June 28, 2018, 01:26:13 PM
So now that its clear that the japan show wont be officially released, anyone care to share?

Where was this made clear?
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: dreamrafa on June 28, 2018, 08:19:34 PM
So now that its clear that the japan show wont be officially released, anyone care to share?

Where was this made clear?

Everywhere LOL... It wont be released.... Its already all over youtube and other streaming sites, but i would like to get a high quality copy...
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: noxon on June 29, 2018, 12:52:59 AM
Eh. The fact that it's on youtube and facebook does not mean that it's not slated for official release. In fact, it's a game of whackamole - since it was aired on tv, people have it. And upload it. And we report it. It's basically a game of whack-a-mole.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Another_Won on June 29, 2018, 06:00:28 AM
I think DT is missing the opportunity.  A fair number of people will be content with the youtube versions and never buy the official release.  If they would have released it sooner, I think more people would have bought it.

Doesn't matter to me, because I'll buy it anyway . . . IF they release it.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: dreamrafa on June 29, 2018, 01:11:38 PM
Eh. The fact that it's on youtube and facebook does not mean that it's not slated for official release. In fact, it's a game of whackamole - since it was aired on tv, people have it. And upload it. And we report it. It's basically a game of whack-a-mole.

Is there any official statement that it will be released?, so far i haven't found any official news, or any comment from band member about it, its all speculation... And by now, having watched the show on YouTube i am convinced that they wont release it officially just because the quality of the vocal is not up to it, there is no way of fixing it for an official release...

So i see no reason why we should think it will be released officially, its just as any other tv broadcast show...
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: noxon on June 29, 2018, 02:29:32 PM
No official statement, but you should trust me on my word :P
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: dreamrafa on June 29, 2018, 03:10:58 PM
No official statement, but you should trust me on my word :P

So you finally convinced john to make official release of this?  :rollin

Sorry but until i get some official news i will handle this as just another bootleg, its spreading fast now, it would make no sense to release something everyone have already seen on YouTube... It could be some kind of official bootleg but as DT abandoned that idea years ago i can safely assume they wont to that neither...

Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: noxon on June 30, 2018, 07:50:16 AM
... yes


And even if its spreading, we're trying to take it down as quickly as possible. But copyright infringment is a manual process, and takes time.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: dreamrafa on June 30, 2018, 09:08:29 AM
... yes


And even if its spreading, we're trying to take it down as quickly as possible. But copyright infringment is a manual process, and takes time.

Well maybe its time to make it official, at least an official announcement, that will prevent fans from share it...

Silence isnt doing anything but moving people to share the show and expose that really bad and weird vocal on it...
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: JohnLocke on July 02, 2018, 05:54:32 AM
I found my copy on Youtube. What I found interesting was what the uploader wrote in his/her description, which was:

"It was rumored that DT was going to release an official DVD of this, but it was not what they expected after mixing and editing errors (Labrie's performance was ruined in almost its entirety with a badly applied autotune for example) among other things."

I'm not sure if there is any truth to this considering the band has been silent concerning this performance. Either way, I burned my copy to DVD, and I am hopeful that in time the band will make a statement, or release this show, because I would still buy it, like I have with everything else they have released.

Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: SwedishGoose on July 02, 2018, 06:39:03 AM
So now that its clear that the japan show wont be officially released, anyone care to share?

Where was this made clear?

Everywhere LOL... It wont be released.... Its already all over youtube and other streaming sites, but i would like to get a high quality copy...

It gets uploaded illegally and gets taken down again.... there has not been any official confirmation that it won't be released
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: dreamrafa on July 02, 2018, 11:02:57 AM
So now that its clear that the japan show wont be officially released, anyone care to share?

Where was this made clear?

Everywhere LOL... It wont be released.... Its already all over youtube and other streaming sites, but i would like to get a high quality copy...

It gets uploaded illegally and gets taken down again.... there has not been any official confirmation that it won't be released

Also there is no official confirmation that it will be released...

Silence makes me thing that it wont be released at all, because if you are going through all the trouble of releasing something, usually you take the time to make an official announcement to avoid leaks...

In the other hand, not releasing something does not need an official announcement at all... There is not going to be an official announcement saying: "we wont release that show, so be free to share it", it wont happen... Mostly because they don't care...

Also i think the leak is out of control by now... I wish DT would be more interested in this kind of stuff, i feel they simply don't care...
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: dreamrafa on July 02, 2018, 11:07:33 AM
I found my copy on Youtube. What I found interesting was what the uploader wrote in his/her description, which was:

"It was rumored that DT was going to release an official DVD of this, but it was not what they expected after mixing and editing errors (Labrie's performance was ruined in almost its entirety with a badly applied autotune for example) among other things."

I'm not sure if there is any truth to this considering the band has been silent concerning this performance. Either way, I burned my copy to DVD, and I am hopeful that in time the band will make a statement, or release this show, because I would still buy it, like I have with everything else they have released.

YouTube source is horrible quality... I fell sad that quality doesn't matter these days...

Official bootlegs where intended to provide good/decent quality bootlegs for the fans, in contrast to the low quality stuff circulating... But as the time passed seems like no one care anymore...

Hopefully in a few years when people is finally convinced that this show wont be released, someone will share their better quality source of this...
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: JohnLocke on July 02, 2018, 01:14:11 PM


YouTube source is horrible quality... I fell sad that quality doesn't matter these days...

Official bootlegs where intended to provide good/decent quality bootlegs for the fans, in contrast to the low quality stuff circulating... But as the time passed seems like no one care anymore...

Hopefully in a few years when people is finally convinced that this show wont be released, someone will share their better quality source of this...
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First, you are right, the quality isn't great.
Second, it beats paying an outrageous amount online from overseas companies that are offering it up on Blu-ray, DVD, and CD.
Lastly, I agree with your thoughts on hoping that the good quality copies can eventually be had.

One last thing....someone on this forum has it, and is on board with the idea that the band is going to release this. However, after watching the whole concert, I can tell you that it is far from perfect. Many tracks, you see Jordan playing, but you can't hear him at all. The abrupt cuts at the end of several songs is odd, and not sure why they chose to edit in such a manner (unless it was due to it being a television copy). And of course there is the vocals of James LaBrie. There is no nice way to say it, but on numerous songs, he tries to reach for notes he can't hit, only to scream, and lose his pitch.

Don't get me wrong... I absolutely love Dream Theater, but other than a great visual presentation, it is a very lackluster performance overall.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: noxon on July 02, 2018, 02:37:11 PM
Also there is no official confirmation that it will be released...

Silence makes me thing that it wont be released at all, because if you are going through all the trouble of releasing something, usually you take the time to make an official announcement to avoid leaks...

You seem to lack basic understanding of how business like this actually works. DT didn't have a plan to release it. They never were planning to. So they strictly speaking do not even own the rights to the video - wowow does. So they have to make a deal to release it before they can even announce it. Same with setting up whatever platform they choose to release it on. I literally said just two posts over that they DO have plans to release it, it'll just take time. And in the mean time, we've been told to report all leaks to the band.

But seriously - it was literally aired on japanese tv. Nobody expected it to be held a secret :P
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 03, 2018, 11:04:47 AM
I just want a good sounding boot of Don't Look Past Me and To Live Forever. So glad they didn't drop these two gems for the Albq show.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: dreamrafa on July 03, 2018, 11:13:05 AM
Also there is no official confirmation that it will be released...

Silence makes me thing that it wont be released at all, because if you are going through all the trouble of releasing something, usually you take the time to make an official announcement to avoid leaks...

You seem to lack basic understanding of how business like this actually works. DT didn't have a plan to release it. They never were planning to. So they strictly speaking do not even own the rights to the video - wowow does. So they have to make a deal to release it before they can even announce it. Same with setting up whatever platform they choose to release it on. I literally said just two posts over that they DO have plans to release it, it'll just take time. And in the mean time, we've been told to report all leaks to the band.

But seriously - it was literally aired on japanese tv. Nobody expected it to be held a secret :P

The thing is, we only have your word on this, and i don't want to be rude or anything but that doesn't mean anything to most of us in this matter... if it where my band i would make an official announcement to avoid leaks,  even one tweet would do the trick, words coming from band members would give credibility IMHO...

I know this can take time, and even more time than you could imagine... If wowow have the rights they might need to wait a couple of years before even attempting a deal... This show needs to be remixed and vocals have to be completely re-edited, and to be honest i dont know if it really worth it, the whole I&W songs tuned 1 step down with all vocal melodies changed is not up to an official release...

Whatever, i will probably find a proper copy trading soon or later...


Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: noxon on July 03, 2018, 12:25:15 PM
Considering I’m actually officially affiliated with the band and management  and communicate with them regularly you should take my word for it :p
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Robo4900 on July 04, 2018, 01:20:39 PM
I just want a good sounding boot of Don't Look Past Me and To Live Forever. So glad they didn't drop these two gems for the Albq show.
Same.

Though, given the fact no one seems to know anything about which bootlegs of DLPM and TLF from this tour are good, at this point, I'm just hoping DT pack them in as bonus tracks on their next live release somehow.
Title: Re: Bootlegs From Images and Words & Beyond
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 04, 2018, 03:43:32 PM
Though, given the fact no one seems to know anything about which bootlegs of DLPM and TLF from this tour are good, at this point, I'm just hoping DT pack them in as bonus tracks on their next live release somehow.
Considering that they dropped DLPM by the time they did Albany, the number of shows in circulation that include it in the setlist are just a few. So it shouldn't be hard to download them all and decide on your own what's best. From what I'm aware of, the shows in circulation are:
2017/10/26 Los Angeles, CA
2017/11/04 Peoria, IL
2017/11/09 Detroit, MI